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>>115206095
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://vtubertracker.info/en
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vstats.jp/
>https://dokorisu.2saku.tech/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/
>https://holo-tracker.vercel.app/
>https://www.holostats.com/
>https://charts.vtaac.workers.dev/
>https://logs.holofun.net/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com
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HoloDreams won
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Mela chan hehe......
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>>115211909
Begging never stops
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>>115211803
They should release EN only banner or ID only banner.
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Isn't (indie) Nene an indog? If she were to join it would be in a SEA gen
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>>115211884
>>115211915
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/260930h?xsrc=o1

The article is really nice


Qualiarts: Hey can we draw Noel skimpy
Cover : Sure go ahead
Qualiarts (Pikachu face)
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>>115211853
>two guaranteed concerts
the full EN concert got axed tho so it's only fes now
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>>115211861
>Studio? Coworkers? A gen? holofes? And much more.
yeah, literally just more work
she seems to already have a good life
>>115211909
KEK
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>>115211960
Apparently noel said draw me like a slut
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>>115211863
Because she's kinda dumb AND confident. She doesn't see anything wrong with her behaviour or thoughts because she can't see beyond the reach of her hand; if something isn't immediately obvious to her she makes the decision requiring the least thought, since it's the quickest one.
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I don't know why the last thread had so many posts, but I'll go with:
>PIPPA GETTING FUCKED BY SPEED RACER DEFLECTION THREAD
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>>115211909
those two are basically the same
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>>115211909

Oh it's one of our containment breaking schizo. Looks like he changed his name. It was something retard catcher
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>New project from #hololive coming soon...
Is the "project" really about EN5?
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>>115211985
Kiara is always right. She's the only one we can belive in this company
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>>115211978
>i hope to be able to use those kinds of bold expressions
kek i bet they had to tone marine down she probably wanted bigger tits and a pussy lips shot
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>>115212012
No, it's a ttrpg branch-wide collab and the successor to enreco which was quietly shit down.
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>>115211973
Most people don't have a poorfag mindset that only dreams of settling for 'good enough.'
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>>115211728
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https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/2105161340465951101

Non-brainworm stream
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>>115211960
>>115211978
>suisei was actually okay with her slutty outfit
She's changed...
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>>115212012
Don't you see the dice? Don't you see the word "project"? Why would you think it's a new gen?
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>>115211978
>Mumei
>Fauna
>Ao
>Shion
>Gura
>Chloe
>Ame
>Taso
So many Illustration shelved
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>holokeks hoping for EN5
>when it'll be some board game merchslop in reality
Oof
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>>115211804
The Oki way
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>>115211953
I have her cosplay photobook pre-Nene and she does not look indog to me. Looks hafu
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so far no girls have retweeted this yet just seems like management organized slop that nobody is excited for
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>>115211852
Gachas are better when there's a clear hierarchy of desirable and undesirable characters. For Holodori that should be Pekomiko on top, Sora next with AZKi and Roboco because of pure seniority, Subaru and Holucks in the middle, JPs and DEV_IS below them, and ENIDs according to their median CCV.
Otherwise rolling out banners is going to take way to long to be competitive against Wuwa and Nikke and NTE.
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>>115212065
Any tips on how to find it? idk what her older accounts were
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>>115212056
So the development for the game started around the time of advent and regloss
>We might be getting justice and flowglow soon folks
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>>115212075
Nerissa did
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>>115211749
Hololive all but ensures long term success and stability, something you simply do not have in content creation, let alone vTubing, otherwise.
No matter how successful you are as an indie you can only hope you make enough money to last you the rest of your life before it all comes crumbling down around you, that's not the case with Hololive.

That's the pragmatic angle.
But then Nene herself is also very into the idea of becoming a full fledged proper idol, doing music, joining variety programs, putting on big shows for all her fans - the works.
There are many many things she wants to do she will realistically never be able to as an indie, things that require connections and large sums of money.
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>>115211728
>mori hogan thread
kiara...
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>>115212014
I wouldn't trust her judgement even if she wasn't part of a company.
I wouldn't even put it past her to pull a Mel and leak something she legally signed not to leak.
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>>115212065
I don't really know, all I remember is that Kawaii Productions was an indog or SEA corpo and all the girls were SEA too
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>>115211947
they did a full male collaber banner already
how did that go btw? the shiori one
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>>115212075
Nerissa did anon...
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so is it a new gen?
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>>115212084
>Justchads and Glowies ask your oshi to stream else it will take more time for them to be added to the game
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>>115212091
>>115212106
ah sorry I've had her blocked since the octavio incident
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>>115212050
>Why would you think it's a new gen?
Holofags are claiming it's a new gen, specifically EN5 thorughbait.
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>>115212096
Suck my dick hope I don't bruise your throat too much.
You're such a fucking bootlicker.
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>>115212131
understandable
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>>115212048
a lecherous pink woman corrupted her...
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>>115212076
Yeah good luck making cover and qualiarts understand why they need to compete against nte or wuwa when their clear competitors are other rythmn games
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>>115212047
https://youtu.be/tqhnbaXa63w&t=5h12m26s
>I'm sorry if you may not see any variety now and in the future from me
>Please don't clip this btw
>But I think I need to, for my own sake, continue or attempt to be with people where my brain worms don't activate
>where I feel like we already have something established where I feel comfortable and all that and... and yeah there's just not many of those people for me right now so sorry if you don't like the lack of variety but you know that's how it's going to be
I feel bad for raora she's basically the only one holding kiara together
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>>115212095
>proper idol
Isn't she a whoretuber?
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>>115212128
>project
>dice roll
You're not very bright, are you?
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>>115212129
>looked at fanarts
CCGG BUTCH LESBIANS TUMBLR SLOP NOOOOOOO
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>>115212131
I wonder how long your block list is considering 80% of Hololive talents have interacted with men in general
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>>115212095
nta but I honestly overestimated how big she was because I always heard about how successful her asmr gigs were
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>>115212165
I can't waif for trans mpreg gigi
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>>115212138
Hey atleast we know mori will graduate soon if you saw her rm
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kiara's existence is a net negative for hololive
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>>115212132
>"Holofags are claiming it's a new gen, specifically EN5 thorughbait."
>looks inside thread
>anons are saying it's ttrpg
retard
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>>115212101
Charzu is not indog or SEA. I didn't watch enough of Reina to get a good opinion, but she definitely sounded ESL at times. Isla is SEA. Hana, well, ask Clara fans I guess.
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>>115212157
she's mostly GFE apparently
no lewd shit nor blowjob ASMRs
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>ironmouse outsold suisei in fartshite
what happen?
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>>115212213
Clara is white. You can look up her image video if you want.
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>>115212095
Hololive isn't any more stable than being an indie
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>>115212129
Here is the reason for eternal Holodori summer.
>Delays in rolling out the game lead to swimsuit being pushed until December.
>They already have stuff planned for December so it will be close call
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It's obviously EN5 with Nene, Filian and Clara. Cole indieshitters, your whores are ours now.
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>>115212205
How does that boot taste, bootlicker?
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>>115212221
>ironmouse outsold suisei in fartshite
proof?
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>>115212159
blue journey but for EN holomem...
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>>115212221
>not hololive
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>>115212211
One person claiming it's a new gen is all you need
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Mori has covered a few of Aiobahn's video game theme songs before. Any chance she'll cover this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDcn7hl16A
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>>115212211
See
>>115212232
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>>115212231
The reason for rhythm game
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>>115212157
Nah, her model is just sex.
She's actually very wholesome and leans more towards GFE.
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>>115212236
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>>115212231
based on the current release trends, 50% of the holomems already have the swimsuits, so december is just right on time christmas SSR's until March, you rike?
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>>115212262
Cover actually stuck gold with this guy he knows fans won't Gacha for the game if the talent is having a birthday or merch going on
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>>115212314
I hope not. It's fun but just mix and match seasons
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>>115212230
nta but i can't imagine an indie being just as stable as a holo when a holo can go for 3 months in a row without streaming and lose nothing in the process
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>>115212311
link?
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>>115212314
as long as they're sexy santa costumes, I'm game
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>>115212230
You are delusional.
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>>115212337
Yeah. Not streaming really fucking kills your momentum as an indie. It's not great as a holo but fans can get by watching other girls until you come back. There's no backup support like that as an indie.
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>>115212321
The reason why this guy made sure talents personalities are shown on the chibis is because if a new fan play the game and likes a character when they check the stream out their immersion won't break about the character they played.

Alright that's neat
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>>115212148
She was open to collabing with Mori and Ina with the new debuts so they're also good in her books
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>>115212221
Suisei didn't even play or promote her skin while iron lung does nothing but stream it all day
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>jwu
>Mela claimed by Kiara
ngmi bros
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>>115212337
>>115212350
>>115212352
Any indie of sufficient size will be just the same as Holo there's still a Filian thread after she's been gone as long as Saba
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>>115212396
A thread can be kept alive by 2 or 3 people on this dead board. Meanwhile when it comes to her actual career filian set fire to it for no reason and no one even knows if she'll be back.
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>>115212396
How dumb are you to think a thread on 4chan is equivalent to the stability a big company like hololive provides?
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>>115212396
There's a hell of a lot more to long term stability and career security than being remembered anon.
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kinda telling that the reaction to an indie potentially going holo is so negative just goes to show just how low the public opinion of holoive has fallen recently
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>>115212407
We are dumb and proud
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>>115212396
Really? Numberfagging with a thread? Not CCV. Not subscriptions. Hell not even google trends. A. FUCKING. THREAD?
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>>115212415
If your logic is based on X then it's kinda telling how dumb you are
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>>115212407
how dumb are you to not understand representative samples

>>115212411
there's stability in big numbers which Hololive gets you but aside from that it's not really that much different, ultimately it's your content that makes you money
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>>115212415
Only phasefags have a negative opinion on it though.
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>>115212415
three brown shitposters from indonesia seething about a ligger joining holo does not constitute a negative reaction.
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>>115212437
>representative samples
4chan is not a representation of anything unless you think Phase is the biggest vtuber corpo
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>>115212415
>the public opinion
>looks inside
>phasefags, former vshojoufags, nijisisters
LOL LMAO
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>>115212451
>4chan is not a representation of anything
yes it is
obviously Hololive is the exception now because most of the traffic went to another site
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>>115212437
>it's not really that much different
ligkek really think like this
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>>115212415
If twitter's opinions were facts everyone in the world would be trannies
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>>115212437
A thread kept alive by four namefags is not a representative sample.
By god, you really are stupid. Well, you're probably just playing dumb because you're a slut for attention, but if it quacks like a duck.
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>>115212396
you're one of those retards who though Filian was making 1Mil$ in merch as well?
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>>115212437
>how dumb are you to not understand representative samples
Prove 4chan is a representative sample
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>4chan means something
Holy shit, this is why I like this thread.
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>>115212415
they are acting as if fucking cover made her joining hololive not that it's her decision
fucking awful human beings
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Holodori killer btw
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Long term doesn't look too good + with what Kyoko just said:
>Mela, isn't a gamer
>Tsuzuri, struggling at Dia 2, people won't suffer male-voice streams for a non immortal shitter
>Big Gap
>Kyoko, annihilated her debut honeymoon to pander to EN dead audience
>Sopia, isn't a gamer, so no niche, runt of the gen status solidified
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>>115212478
>A thread kept alive by four namefags is not a representative sample.
It kinda is
It's the same for Mumei, Gura, Ame
You know if any of them decide to come back they can farm money off their respective paypigs even if they've been gone a long time
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>>115212396
the thing is you're trying to compare someone like Filian and motherfucking NOTGURA to a low 3view indie nigga
Nene had a name but she wasn't THAT big (in numbers, her tits are huge)
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>>115212515
Depends how devoted your audience are I guess, but I've seen 3 views come back after hiatus and have similar numbers
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>>115212512
yeah but those ligger aint no Gura Ame Mumei (hololive)
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>>115212512
Yeah and they'd still be smaller than their holo careers, so you sampling doesn't gibe evidence for your claim: >>115212396
>Any indie of sufficient size will be just the same as Holo
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>>115212437
Hololive is more than getting higher CCV and sub counts anon. Views are only an infinitesimally small part of what goes into this.
With Cover you have a very large, very well connected, and extremely successful company with a very direct financial interest in your growth backing you.
All the opportunities and security that provides is something no indie vTubers can ever hope to compete with - no Filian, no Ironmouse, no one.
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>>115212503
what company is this
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>>115212512
I'm not sure you know what stability means. Being dependent on a few loyal paypigs is the opposite of stability. The truth is that you need tourists.
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>>115212473
you retards are truly stuck in 2022, just like beggars
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"mori"s new song is doing really well. Cover and UMJ probably rerated not letting her to do it as Mori when they saw the game go viral lmao.
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>>115212512
you do realize holos passively get money just from cover letting others use their designs for marketing purposes without the girls having to lift even a finger right
gura not streaming anything at all for a year made more money than any indie
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>>115212570
Damn that's actually really good. Mori's still got it.
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>>115212503
Why didn't they just add the new bands to the old game?
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>>115212504
Raden isn't a gamer but her reach outside of traditional vtubing space is massive among Holo. CC isn't a gamer but her average CCV has been doing really well compared to other ENs.
I don't know how "isn't a gamer" matters unless you think Mela won't be playing any game at all.
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>>115212542
>With Cover you have a very large, very well connected, and extremely successful company
That translates to opportunites, not security
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>>115212575
I have to admit the chorus is solidly stuck in my head.
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>>115212504
>>Mela, isn't a gamer
it means she has over9000 games to choose to stream for the 1st time
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>>115212572
They get money from merch being sold with their likeness, they don't get money just from having their design used in an ad
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>>115212581
>Raden
Nijispy doesn't count
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>>115212581
CC still plays games, Mela will not be playing games
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>>115212570
Didn't several Holo get 1M+ views for their new songs / covers within just a day or two since YT changed their view count system? 396K views / 14 hours is good, but nothing enough to make UMJ or Cover regret anything
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>>115212356
very neat interview
thanks for the review, anon
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>>115212056
>we missed Shion sex
Hopefully they can release an art book for the game sometime in the future and include all these shelved illustrations.
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What mindbroke phasecucks this time? I keep seeing Shiori bait threads with low efffort replies on cooldown every time I open the board.
Was there another phase yab?
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>>115212589
The security comes from getting a bigger audience, both in members/SC and CCV.
Reach gives security which affords opportunity, and if you're too poor to understand that you should not make bold claims like earlier.
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>>115212589
You don't know what security means.
Almost every single one of the big indies is really just one lawsuit away from complete financial ruin.
They all exist in a grey area where all the gigantic companies whose licenses and copyrights they constantly violate on a daily basis simply don't pursue them since their lawyers are much more expensive than whatever chump change they can extract from an Ironmouse or Filian.
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>>115212634
The only point of failure for vtubers is Youtube or Twitch deciding to shut down your channel and that applies to indies and Cover equally
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>>115212603
They'll all collab. She'll play games. Kyoko already said they're down to learn with a controller but not keyboard/mouse because it's too complicated for Mela and Sopia
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>>115212473
Hold on let me make a Beatani thread to show just how much longevity 4chan indies have
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>>115212599
No anon, they get a cut for most things involving "their character".
Quite a few of the girls have talked about this pretty openly.
They even get a cut of shit like the HoloDori profits they bring in.
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>>115212522
there are for sure, Hell Sinder seems to be doing just fine even with all the google dockeys against her unless someone proves me wrong
but those are one in a million just like almost anyone who makes it big as a content creator, hard to call that "stable" especially when one bad choice can destroy your career, just look at Vox or Plappa
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>>115212503
>Love Live profile picture
my sides
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>>115212407
so Asobis are flops because they dont have generals here?
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>>115212661
Kyoko said that Peak is a hard sell to Sopia and Mela because they don't play games. Fucking PEAK
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>>115212678
Shondo also takes breaks for ages and still maintains the same audience
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>>115212692
Her audience has declined massively, what are you smoking
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>>115212659
Say that to filian almost going broke after having to settle for her IP intrusion.
Oh wait, you can't.
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>>115212599
im pretty sure they do anon even if it is just pennies
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>>115212415
>recently
I want to get off Grimus Grimley's wild-ride because we got on in 2021 and we haven't even left the sewer plant exhibit yet.
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>>115212659
>The only point of failure for vtubers is Youtube or Twitch deciding to shut down your channel and that applies to indies and Cover equally
The last time it took Cover literally less than an hour to get a Holo's Youtube channel's back after they were mistakenly banned for suspicious activity.
If you are an indie you might just have to start a completely new channel and work your way up from scratch.
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>>115212689
You came to the opposite conclusion there. Think harder, try again.
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>>115212321
damn this guy actually gets it
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>>115212699
That's because Filian did something dumb and broke the law you fucking idiot, normal vtubers own their model or they don't sell merch of models owned by other people

>>115212700
If your likeness gets used it an ad do you think they track every single impression made from the ad and then pay you a fraction of it? Doubtful
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>>115212615
Not that I can think of.
We'll have this in an hour to see how recent orisongs have done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySSAwYRPrw
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>>115212659
didn't filian's whole disappearance and rebranding bullshit happen literally because she got sued into the fucking ground over her IP
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>>115212706
Youtube does not give preferential treatment to Cover and indie creators go through the same channels they do when dealing with Youtube
What do you think all the ridiculous perms bullshit is for
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>>115212578
That was the original plan. But MyGo and Ave Mujica were a bit viral and there were already complaints of some of the original bands taking too long to get a story update so they spun off five bands into "Our Notes" so they can cash in a bit on the hype for MyGo and Ave Mujica.
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https://x.com/mainichijpnews/status/2104759295502098450
Japan to expand civil damages and compensation of online defamation and slander.
Civil damages due to defamation traditionally only limits penalties up to several thousands of yen. JP legislations are considering to increase that limit up to an unspecified amount due to the rampant online defamation and slander that has been increasing in recent years.
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>>115212721
i guess it depends on the Ad
if they lend their voices for it im 100% sure they get something to the very least
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>>115212721
Every time a game is streamed they infringe on property.
No court has ever upheld commentery as transformative, and these companoes DO strike people at times.
Why are you so hellbent on denying the security a company provides? Do you leech off your parents?
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>>115212749
They'd probably get paid upfront for doing that
Residuals usually come from things that actually sell ie. voice packs and merch
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>>115212690
Eh Peak is kind of a boring game. It doesn't mean they'll hate everygame
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>>115212546
Published by Bushiroad and Developed by a studio backed by them as well.
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>>115211953
She's white. She looks like Silvervales *slightly younger*(still hag) sister.
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>>115212758
>Every time a game is streamed they infringe on property.
It's not really that simple
A game company can decide they don't want you streaming your game, but in Youtube's case that results in a copyright strike, not finanical ruin (unless all your channel is is videos of that single game), and that applies to Cover or indies equally
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>>115212721
That's literally how sponsorships work anon.

>>115212733
You are actually delusional if you think big creators/companies do not get higher priority contacts than your random 3view indie.
How many times have Holo channels been straight up banned and videos taken down only to pop back up in less than half an hour?
You think an indie could swing that?

>What do you think all the ridiculous perms bullshit is for
It's really not ridiculous, it's abiding by licensing and copyright laws.
That those laws are ridiculous is without question, but not abiding by them would invite catastrophe.
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>>115212213
Clara is Italian-American, at least partially. Might be part Irish too or just had an interest in Ireland.
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>>115212733
>Youtube does not give preferential treatment to Cover and indie creators go through the same channels they do when dealing with Youtube
This is objectively false. Bigger creators have a much better in with Youtube than the typical smaller channel. In this context, Hololive and the typical indie
>What do you think all the ridiculous perms bullshit is for
But the perms stuff is totally separate from youtube and that is in relation to the rights holder for a particular song or game
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>>115212779
Cover and most major vtuber corpo has an agreed permission with the the appropriate rightsholders.
If they copystrike their channel, Cover would win.
Transformative/Fair Use is only an argument when there's no explicit permission.
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>>115212733
perms bullshit has to do more with Japanese autism than youtube anon
with youtube is always about swearing or revealing too much
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>>115212786
Sponsorships pay up front and / or give you a referral link
Like imagine having a key visual with 50 vtubers on and it gets displayed in one specific location and you have split that 50 ways
That's ridiculous

>You are actually delusional if you think big creators/companies do not get higher priority contacts than your random 3view indie.
It depends on the status of your Youtube channel more than anything else
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>>115212230
It's a lot more stable. You're not getting gouged on art commissions, ignored by cons, having merch distributors stiff you for tens of thousands of dollars in paid product, random and arbitrary platform bans.
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>>115212764
>It doesn't mean they'll hate everygame
That's what Kyoko made it sound like. She literally said they don't like playing games.
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>>115212779
NTA, but Cover has a direct line to YT JP and better connections / experience to handle those kinds of events than large majority of indies.
Case in point: have you seen any Holo member losing their channel permanently? Meanwhile there have been plenty of cases where indies (smaller ones especially) cried for getting copyright struck and all responses they got from YT came from their auto-reply bots.
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>>115212803
>But the perms stuff is totally separate from youtube
The perms stuff is 100% because of Youtube copyright strikes, first to check that the creator is ok with it, second if anyone decides to copyright strike them they have written evidence they can use to get the strike removed
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>>115212396
Bro there's a Nina Saotome thread that doesn't translate into the actual reality of streaming.
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>>115212788
When your ancestry is so many generations old you stop being something-American. You're just American.
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>>115212841
And Nina Saotome is a very popular indie
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>>115212779
>but in Youtube's case that results in a copyright strike
That's not a company suing anyone for copyright violations anon, that's simply the equivalent of someone sending a nicely worded chat message to Youtube HQ saying they don't want them to host that content.

Most of these companies simply don't bother actually suing you since even if you are the most successful indie vTuber on the planet you simply don't have the kind of funds to make it worth it for them.
That doesn't mean it can't and won't happen, it very much so can and if it does you are gonna be fucked beyond belief.
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>Cover put in a call saying the debut is confirmed for November
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>>115212848
>>115212841
who?
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>>115212504
Yeah you niggers said this about regloss and flowglow too, keep begging
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>>115212738
I guess that's why Cover has chosen to use US courts for their larger defamation suits.
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>>115212834
Cover not, but a niji did once.
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>>115212851
What's your point
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>>115212856
Cover usually trains new debuts for months, and Nene has been streaming regularly so I doubt Nene is going to Hololive. She is probably going fleshie somewhere
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>>115212848
She's a very low 3 view she doesn't even qualify for /lig/ technically
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>>115212504
>struggling at Dia 2
But she's not? Being rusty is something that gets shaken off.
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>>115212860
There's a civil code for defamation and slander and a criminal code for defamation and slander in Japan.
The latter has higher maximum damages but it's still nothing compared to US courts where cases even go up to billions.
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>>115212856
They did not.
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>>115212874
She wasn't rusty, though.
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>>115212873
>She's a very low 3 view
She's a high 3 view, sometimes 4 view, and they talk about her in /lig/ all the time
wtf am I reading
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>>115212856
Did she talk about how it was funny that Nene replied to Mozzu and fucking Neena on Twitter?
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>>115212839
>>115212862
>The perms stuff is 100% because of Youtube copyright strikes,
"The perms stuff" for Cover started with Capcom suing them for a shitload of money back in like 2020.
That lawsuit nearly killed Cover, they were lucky Capcom used it mostly to set an example and was willing to settle on a couple million yen in damages.
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>>115212821
nta but i can't think of a low 3view having the same status as a big creator or a company unless they're literally sucking their cock
i know yt sometimes favor certain low level channels like that TV review channel with the crazy christian nigger, but those are very few and extreme cases
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>>115212884
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but /lig/ pernits 3views? What's even the point then?
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>>115212904
>Capcom suing them for a shitload of money
They didn't do this, they just copyright struck Mio's channel
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>>115212908
The point is Youtube care about the size and legitimacy of your channel not the company you work for
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>>115212884
You're right she's a lot more popular now than the last time I looked. She's actually bigger than Nene Amano.
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>>115212912
2 views are small indies
3 views are large indies
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>>115212912
Holostars is bigger than /lig/ confirmed
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>>115212914
they did more than just copyright strike MIo
someone post the catbox
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>>115212883
She is, she didn't play valorant for almost one year which coincide with the time when kyoko shut off her social media presumably to undergo cover's vtuber training .
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>>115212912
I think /big/ is for 4views iirc
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>>115212874
>>115212883
you didn't watch the stream.
go check the previous threads for details.
the tldr is that she was struggling/doing-just-okay, and the rank at the end was diamond 2.
we are talking 2 entire ranks below what she's claiming (diamond > ascendant > immortal > radiant).
probably lucked out on a elo wave (this is a tencent game).
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>>115212937
/big/ is some weird split for snuffy's clique or something
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>>115212904
is the rrat true that Nijisisters are partly responsible for it?
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>>115212912
/lig/ is 500+ it was created when there weren't very many 1k indies that didn't have their own threads. Now /big/ exists for 1k+ only to filter put all the three views but /big/ is mostly just /lime/
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>>115212928
Large starts at 4view or else you'll have thousands of indies qualifying for /lig/.
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>>115212954
>Large starts at 4view
No it starts at about 200 views
>or else you'll have thousands of indies qualifying for /lig/.
Well yeah they do but there aren't that many 3 view indies
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>>115212437
>ultimately it's your content that makes you money
exactly
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>>115212923
post numbah
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>>115212834
But why wasn't Anycolor able to recover Mashiro's old channel?
>>26077691
https://x.com/nijisanji_app/status/1544259925584384000
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>>115212948
>partially
Anon, who do you think mass-reported Mio's videos back then?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RP6UbtnO3k
Prediction?
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>>115212936
Vshojo actually saved Henyas ass. Boosted her average like 2k with the new model, audience, and attention. Pikamee was dying on her old channel.
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>>115212943
So what if she's shitty at FPS games, who cares
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>>115212932
nah, they struck Mio's channel enough times that they could have permanently terminated the account. After that Cover swiftly privated pretty much every gaming stream that they could on their other talent channels.
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>>115212948
It's a rrat because it's not entirely confirmable.
What is true is that Anycolor (formerly Ichikara) announced a permission/partnership with Capcom for streaming their games a week before they start copystriking holos.
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>>115212971
40k
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>>115212947
Technically you can talk about Ironmouse or Fillian or Nimi in /big/ in practice it's Laimu, Snuffy and their friends
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>>115212943
And you didn't watch her first stream where she said she didn't play the game for a while and is surprised at the UI change and the new skins. She is rusty because she didn't touch the game for a year.
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>>115212914
It was a lot more than just Youtube taking down a bunch of vods anon.
There was a serious copyright dispute between Cover and Capcom that got dragged out for like 2 years until they managed to resolve it.
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>>115212962
Was Fauna not in holofes?
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>>115212238
>Credited as both in yesterday's unity concert
btfo'd yet again
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>>115212966
I'm on my phone but check twitch tracker her 30 day average was like 900.
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Biboo is getting her ass handled by the new boss. The fucker is insanely difficult for her
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>>115213004
Do you have any source for this at all because I haven't heard about it and I think I would have heard about it if that were true
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>>115212971
prob much more than 20k (what sopia did on her 1st karaoke)
FWMC did 30k for their 1st karaoke

doing EN pandering streams reduces debut ccv but karaoke is generally a whole different thing that isn't affected
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>>115212971
All in 60k
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>>115213014
Justice babies....
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>>115213021
I've been here since 2019
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>>115213008
that's not a concert it's a convention
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>>115213011
It's the hardest boss in the game by far
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>>115213026
You mean on the earth?
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>>115212967
We're talking about Cover, though, different companies have different connections - even more so in different time.
And Mashiro wasn't copyright struck, he was banned because he was doing gore streams (at least according to the archive, IDK what he was banned for).
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>>115213032
holoexpo is a convention and holofes is a concert
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>>115212979
fucking read the post you replied to retard. dogshit post
>>115213000
you can say whatever reason, people - particularly gachi adjacent - aren't gonna watch that shit long term UNTIL as you say, she stops being 'rusty' and is actually notable.
people will just tune in to her other streams.
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>>115212872
>She is probably going fleshie somewhere
are you retarded?
what does it even mean
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>>115212962
what is this pic tryng to point out exactly?
that she didnt try to do shit as a holo?
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>>115213032
HoloExpo was the convention. HoloFes was a concert
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>>115213058
Yeah I'm saying it doesn't matter if she's struggling at diamond 2 because she's still cute so it's fine. No one actually cares about her skill level
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wait what was nerissa's announcement anyways?
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>>115213014
They reached an agreement so it never came to a public lawsuit you'd find news articles on or anything.
If I remember right the licensing agreement they put together with Capcom back in like 2021/2022 specifically included all past broadcasts using Capcom's intellectual properties however, that's not something these kind of agreements usually ever have and strongly indicates there was consternation there. Might be as much as you get from the official side of things.
Claiming it was just a couple copyright strikes on Youtube is just absolutely retarded.
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>>115212971
guaranteed Hologold if she sings Plastic Love



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