Why don't vtubers actually upgrade their PC?
>>115259564Because right now 1tb of storage is $180, a good CPU is $1,500 and a nice gpu upgrade is $2,000-$10,000.All while Nvidia and co report 70% profit margin on their products.
They don't know how to. They don't even need to get a whole new PC, just upgrade parts, even incrementally, but they're too stubborn or dumb to do that. The few vtubers that do any sort of computer related customization only go as far as keyboardfag shit.Besides, if they can still play games and people keep watching what incentive is there for them to do it?
Retarded nigger, have you seen the state of the PC market thanks to AI?
>>115260434OP probably bought nvidia shares
>>115259800That sucks for consumers but it's a tax write-off if you're a streamer.
>>115259800>good CPU 1.5k9800X3D is around 400 larp-anon
>>115259564AI faggots ruined the prices for everything, in return for nothing gained but useless slop
>>115259564Raora has a damn 4090 and a terrible CPU, that's why her computer is always malfunctioning. The only one with a high end computer is little Bibo, and Irys, Sora, Okayu, Botan, and Kaela have mid range ones. The other girls have computers from many years ago, like Bae who had a 2070 or CC with her 1070, but it's sadder with Fuwamoco who play on laptops
it's easy content and good for farming donationsyou get clips of freaking out at chat for bringing it up, a little fake rage LARP, viewers sending in donations thinking any of the money will actually go to a new computer, and if she's feeling lazy she can rely on her computer crashing mysteriously and forcing her to end the game/stream early
>>115260531What cpu does she have?
>>115259800So? are Hololive girl poor that they can't spend 10k$ like it should be like nothing to them
>>115259564for what? there hasn't been a single AAA game worth playing in the last 10 years
Buy an ad clipnigger
>>115260601Elden Rang
>>115260657slop
>>115260531Shouldn't Fuwamoco have the best one since it renders 2 models?
>>115259564Most are degrees of tech inept and too polite to ask someone knowledgeable like Botan to help.Choco is exceptionally tech inept to the point her PCs have a ton of trouble due to dust build up/etc
>>11526059210k? No it's 15 or more if you include ram
>>115259800nvidia should just sell off their gaming division, it's less than 25% of their income and its entire profit doesn't even cover the taxes they need to pay on the rest of their income.
>>115261620Nah, it will remain as the dumping ground for their professional graphic silicon yields and to showcase their ML tech to masses.The actual take is that discrete GPUs are regressing back to their hobbyist-only roots. The masses get by iGPU solutions for their use cases.
>>115260531Nah, it is just modern vibe code slop. It is funny how fast hardware from a few years ago still is. What changed is that coding practicing have gone down the pipe. It will only get worse as well veterans get forced out of the market to appease shareholders.
>$10k on a top of the line PC to do your job? Are you crazy???>$10k on some random shit like a ring that looks like a cereal lego toy? YABBA DABBA DOOOOOO
>>115260785you can use 2 PC, one for rendering models
>>115260531>4090 >badKids really got groomed into consoomers by tech reviewers, I tought it was just a meme.
>>115259800Holodori made like millions
>>115259800>All while Nvidia and co report 70% profit margin on their products.Those fanboys are reaping what they sown for 10+years of shilling all while spreading misinformation about amd.They created this AI problem all on their own.
>>115260531Kiara also has a 4080, paired with a 9950X3D.
>>115259800>All while Nvidia and co report 70% profit margin on their products.Their consumer grade products make up only 7.5% of their revenue. They basically lose money with every GPU they sell because they could have used those materials on data center products.
Why are people lying? You can get a perfectly good PC for like $5k right now.
>>115262305They get better margins on direct-to-customer sales.
>>115262344That number actually includes some direct-to-customer sales as well. They divide their earnings into "edge computing" and data center, with no further breakdowns. Geforce products are almost completely irrelevant in their current business strategy.
>>115262311Retarded doomposting or third world prices like in America.
>>115262311>you have to spend 5k$ for a perfect PC instead of 2k$ like 6 years agoPC gaming is so over
>>115262681>2kI built my PC in 2019 and it cost 3.5k for everything, which included a 2080ti, 64gb ram, high end CPU at the time, and m.2 2tb stick.
>>115259564Blame nvidia and the fanboys
2k? Back in the 1080ti times when you could build a reasonably high end PC with around 1k and STILL there were ancient poorfags who thought that was too much money for a computer.
>>115259564Why would she join the lemmings?
>>115259800The CPU is nothing, it's the RAM that kills the build.
>>115260657>Elden Rangruns on a potato, your point?
>>115259564Considering how bad quality control is nowadays, buying a pc is stressful kek. I had to return 2 $3k prebuilts because they all had fucked components day 1, 3rd one I had for a few months so I needed to go through warranty for 3 repairs
>>115263270Why is that weird to you? Price memory is a thing.
>>115261620>hey guys 90% of our income is from hypebro bullshit that doesn't make any money
>>115263963datacenters are big business even without the current LLM bubble. You think amazon and microsoft and google and meta clouds just run on water vapor in the sky? Even when the bubble bursts, LLMs are integrated so deeply by every remotely creative production tool (image/video editing, animation, programming, 3D modelling for industrial applications, research, writing) that commercial, large-scale demand will still exist. It'll just be priced out from "free" tier that makes a billion hours of slop every day.
>>115261620The gaming cards serve a dual purpose as budget cards for small companies and labs
>>115263899I never said that though? I was talking about how the further back we go the cheaper parts were. People used to say that paying 1k for a pc was dumb. I'm aware about the memory crisis thing but that wasn't about that either.
>>115262113It's decent but it's lagging behind since DLSS and frame gen are becoming the industry standardSad to see, but that's where we're heading
>>115264101people hoping for the bubble to burst literally don't know what they're talking about
>>115264247Ah sorry. I completely misinterpreted the use of caps lock for "still" and read the post as if you were dismissive of the oldfags.
>>115264432People who believe that it'll result a components flooding the second-hand market are going to be super disappointed, everything is already earmarked.
>>115260531Watame got 5090, it was 4k-5k PC, I wonder how much it's worth now.
PCs are already strong enough. Devs just need to learn to optimize their shit like people did in the past instead of dropping things with uncapped 1 gorillion fps and 4k HD resource bloat
>>115260484Oh awesome, so I still need to pay like 70% of the price.
>>115264401This only matters if you're playing the latest AAA games with the highest graphics settings. You can run basically everything you need on a fucking 3080
>>115260581Remember when Intel's 13th and 14th generation had problems with the i7 and i9 processors? It seems he bought a defective i7 13 that's causing his PC to run poorly all the time, That's why he's having so many problems with AAA games, but since Raora spends his money on silly Pokémon stuff, he still hasn't replaced his defective CPU
>>115260484tax write off doesn't mean you get something for free
>>115265030>his moneyRomance language speaker detected
>>115264853And AI buying up everything and fucking up the PC hardware market is ensuring they have to.
>>115260531CC upgraded her build quite early in her holocareer. She also bought a couple of portable gaming rigs/gaming laptops with specs "better than my original kartoffel computer" because she is moving so frequently.
>>115262681you can still get a decent build with $2k, but the idea you pay more for less computer than you used to still hurts. We've been spoiled by 40 years of compute getting insanely cheaper and more powerful every other year. At least when the AI bubble bursts prices will collapse close to pre-AI levels.
>>115262280>Replying to someone that doesn't watch herCome on bro
>>115268522>At least when the AI bubble bursts prices will collapse close to pre-AI levels.
>>115259564What's even the point of making threads like these?
>>115268717It will happen one way or another. It's either that, or the AI labs summon Skynet and we all die in nucleapocalyptic hellfire, or the US dollar becoming Zimbabwean.
>>115268829The prices are not coming down no matter what happens.
Pretty sure you can just fly to China and buy their domestic GPUs without AI garbage on it cheaper than the cost of a 5080
>>115268968Well if the USD becomes Zimbabwean then your statement is true from a certain point view.
>>115268968I have faith in some retarded CCP apparatchiks from two different provinces engaging in a dick measuring competition for who has the biggest DDR5 RAM fab until they completely dump the global market through sheer supply. Many such cases in other industries.
>>115269161Chinese memory makers already entered the market and just sell their shit at the same price as the rest.
>>115269342Until now they've only had capacity to serve their domestic market, but CXMT is said to be aiming to match Micron's volumes by 2027. I'm hoping for them to ACCELERATE themselves into massive global overcapacity by 2028.
>>115269342collapse of the AI bubble will cripple demand for memory which will collapse prices. Even if the memory makers greedmaxxed, they need to make some money somehow. They can't just sit on unsold inventory and wait till the dead bankrupt AI companies buy them on huge rates. They need someone to buy their shit, and if no one does they'll have to drop prices, simple as.
>>115259800That's not even a dent on their incomeRemember that IRyS bought a gaudy $5k ring
>>115268829The whole "AI bubble" is a psyop, there isn't such thing to burst.Just propaganda to let you hope that things will be solved by themselves, so you will not do anything against it instead of crying on social media.
>>115270437ok jensen
>>115264401No, they are not. They are dead-end solutions and a way of Nvidia is able to pawn off shitty ML-yields to /v/tards.
>>115268968Demand destruction is a thing kiddo. Once the demand for whatever hardware is being hit dries up. It has to come down. The only people adverse to this are shareholders.
>>115262305Wrong, Nvidia is making a very healthy profit with their discrete GPU gayming SKUs even they sold at their MSRP. They are simply making insane profit margins on the same silicon by rebranding it towards ML customers.
>>115271399Demand is literally never going to go down until the entire surface of the Earth is covered in data centers.
>>115259564Not looking up your clip
>>115262311>why are people lying on 4chan?
What people don't get is that the PCs these girls have do twice the work as gaming rigs and streaming machines , paired with the fact that after many years none has created something better than OBS
>>115271985there are streamers with dual pc setup, like CC.Which despite is expensive, is the best choice in the long term
>>115259800They can afford it, stop defending millionaires
>>115270437What benefit is there in running propaganda that deludes consumers into waiting? Everything available right now is already sold, everything available for the next 10 years is already sold. The only things selling consumers are scalpers. Consumers are going to have to... pay through the nose now, or pay through the nose later.
