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DOOMchads, we will have our answers in 9h

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Said it in the other thread, will say it here again - if it was a merger they'd have been told to make it sound like a good thing, put a positive spin on it.
We're going to get either a graduation, possibly mass graduation.

>>79629606
I need a rundown on all the talents that are already mentally check'd out

>>79629606
>they'd have been told to make it sound like a good thing
what makes you think they'd comply, given that they'd know that its a coin flip whether or not they still have a job

>>79628828
And now Scarle has deleted her ambiguous tweet. Fuck they are retarded.

>>79628917
Don't they announce this kind of stuff at noon?

>>79630164
I have to imagine they would announce it outside of trading hours

>>79630019
Because they have been marching to the drumstick, since before #WhereIsSelen started.
>No one spoke up about Selen when people were asking in chat
>No one spoke up during #WhereIsSelen
>No one kicked a fuss when Selen was terminated
>No one kicked a fuss after the Negligible statement
>No one kicked a fuss after the black frame stream
>Radio silence for months on the obvious elephant in the room

I can't wait for the doom poster to not say anything once the livers leave and are like. "I did say something, remember that time I doom posted?"

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>>79630061
someone took a screenshot thankfully

>>79630333
yeah, because they still had a job, and weren't interested in losing it. the situation has changed.

>>79628828
Light mode Brown confirmed

>>79630305
I'm this anon. Please, screencap the funny comments and shitposts.
>>Verification not required.

>>79630164
Can't find the post in the archives but an anon in a thread yesterday said that most of the notices from NijiEN went out at 8pm JST.

Did anybody watch Mint beat the last boss of Doom 64 on the first try?

>>79630391
Scarle has nothing to worry about since she likes to keep herself on an island with her small but loyal viewerbase.

>>79629922
All of them are mentally checked out, to varying degrees. Half of them are doomposting on main, a bunch of them are active on PL, at least three girls are actively trying to use termination as an emergency exit, Kotoka is literally on a "I'm mentally checked out" hiatus, and enough of them are /here/ for all of them to know that /we/ are expecting a branch closure and mass graduation to happen between tomorrow and next Monday.

The end is near, and they all know it.
And they are powerless to stop the inevitable, and they all know it.
And the whole world knows it, and they all know that everyone else knows it.
And they have to publicly pretend that there is nothing out of the ordinary going on; and that management is not in the midst of a six-month-long, self-inflicted, and ongoing yab. And not only do they have to pretend that the yab is not currently happening, they also have to pretend that Selen never joined the company in the first place.

And they have to pretend that she never joined the company in the first place, while preparing for her wave's anniversary - Petra and Rosemi have it hardest on this front, for obvious reasons.

So... yeah, they're all mentally checked out.

Eh, I only watch Enna now so it doesn't matter.
I know her and millie aren't going anywhere so they will probably downsize to VOMs levels while subsisting of the male tubers

>>79629922
Kunai has told viewers not to renew memberships, has become pretty active on her PL twitter and now follows Sayu and Doki. She's definitely out as soon as she can.

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>>79631475
I hope Vivi and Kunai leave together.

nothing will happen

>>79631590
>>79631475
Millie wouldnt give a fuck if either left so they musnt be the ones.

>>79628828
I think Elira is the one who's graduating. She's been all cuddly with her fanbase as of lately as if she was preparing to leave. In her head she mistakenly believes that she's the main responsible of NijiEN's downfall and dipping now will be a way to liberate herself from such guilt. This would explain all the ambiguous doomposting because they care more about each other than the merging itself if that's what's happening.

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>>79629922
Fuck this, I'm bored. Let's collect some data anons.

Sorted by generations, here's what I have picked up so far. Corrections where needed are appreciated.

Lazulight:
>Elira
- Has been making ambgiuous tweets about being mentally unwell
- Reacted to the cancellation of the NA 3D concert in a(very hyper and "fake" way
>Finana

Obsydia:
>Rosemi
- removed all links to other Niji EN livers on her youtube page, which happened somewhat recently
>Petra

Ethyria:
>Millie
>Enna
>Reimu

Luxiem:
>Luca
>Shu
>Ike
>Vox

Noctyx:
>Sonny
>Uki
>Alban
>Fulgur

Iluna:
>Maria
- apparently also removed all links to other Niji EN livers on her Youtube page
>Aia
>Aster
>Scarle
>Ren

Xsoleil:
>Doppio
>Meloco
>Hex
- doomposting on PL account
>Kotoka
- has been on a mental health break since months
>Ver

Krisis:
>Vezalius
>Vantacrow
>Yu

TTT:
>Kunai
- has shown increased activity on PL account, removed the indefinite hiatus status
>Vivi
- has shown increased activity on PL account
>Claude
- doom posting on PL account

Denauth:
>Ryouma
>Twisty
- supposedly already dropped some comments feeling disillusioned about Niji EN
>Klara

>>79631713
>twisty comments
Source?

>>79630877
That's the worst part. She has no reason to leave unless they straight up Selen her

>>79630563
That was me, pointing out that at least 4 of the 7 EN white papers were published at 2000 JST. I didn't mention it then, but I'm not sure what time of day Nina's and Mysta's graduation announcements were published; Pomu's was NOT published at that time slot, although it was published two hours earlier than she wanted.

The current time is just before 10am JST. If either >>79630164 or >>79630279 is correct, and the July 1 rrat is also correct, then the announcement will happen in either 2 or 5 hours from now respectively.
The July 1 window closes at 2359 PDT, not 2359 JST; so an announcement within the next 30 hours is within the realm of possibility. It would necessarily mean announcing it before AX, though.

>>79631830
His ass.
The claude doom posting was also only over valorant.

>>79631713
>Kunai
Bit more to add >>79631475

>>79631713
Aia opened a PL twitter account (didn't use to have one) and doom posted on it, before locking it.
Also people have been saying that Ren has gotten more active on his PL, but I don't follow shit there.
Meloco hasn't had an EN stream in forever.
Denauth shouldn't be included on the basis that the whole wave is a bunch of VTA dodgers.

>>79631713
Alban is on hiatus for iirc the rest of summer at least. Although it's most likely to focus on his nihongo reps

>>79631895
Considering she keeps having to go under management's nose to do things unofficially like merch, it would not surprise me if:
A.) The same people who were butthurt about Selen showing everyone up were also butthurt about Scarle.
B.) Scarle gets so little support and eats such a huge corpo cut on anything she does that anyone with basic financial literacy that has talked to her in the past year has probably begged her to leave.

>>79631713
Twisty is hard to read. She’s either playing into it or she’s being serious, but her tone is the exact same in either case, even if her pitch is fine.

>>79631710
If it's not a merger this might be the case. Both Millie and Scarle tend to interact with Elira a lot, so on an emotional level they'll be affected.
But I'm giving it a low chance.

>>79631713
Pomu hasn't posted in a while, i think she might leave soon.

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>>79631710
Elira is not leaving before 9/15 without getting terminated, and even then she won't get sacked for anything less than regicide.

>>79632185
Anyone with financial literacy would also tell her it's risky because you have no clue how much of your audience you can funnel to your PL.

Lives in Japan (doomposters)
>Petra
>Kotoka
>Meloco
>Klara
Travelled to Japan for the concert
>Elira
>Finana
>Rosemi
>Millie

>Luca
>Shu
>Sonny
>Uki

>>79632308
>israel
What the hell? And he account is even locked.

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>>79632308
Nonsense, I have it on good authority she's one of the least likely to graduate.

>>79632308
Not that I think she's leaving but this means nothing, they can just cancel it.

>>79632595
meant for >>79632395

>>79632420
Also doesn't Niji take 30% of superchats? I have not seen a source on that, but if true it makes her calculation much different, then if it was taking 50%.
>>79632395
It's Nijisanji, they will cancel this shit or parade her corps if it comes to it. They dgaf.

https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1807572732114297045

It's Rosever, Rosemi confirmed Joe Biden

>>79632308
meds

if any Liver is lurking, there's still a chance for seizing the initiative
just be the first to sing the Trumpets and reveal everything, spill the beans
don't do it if you are in JP because that's Nijien territory, but if you are on the 1st flight out it's safe enough
do that and you'll have a momentum boost once you go full Indie
there's still hope for you

also if 7th Trumpet was what's been playing since early this year, is the final yab that ends the branch known as the 7 bowls?

>>79632687
Yeah, we're getting an announcement soon, no two ways about it.

>>79631830
>>79631982
removed claude and adjusted twisty to what >>79632254 added

>>79632085
Any sauce or proof for that? How did people pick up the account?

>>79632100
added it to the list

>>79631475
>Kunai has told viewers not to renew memberships
When did that happen?

>>79632395
Pomu graduated before doing her last concert.

>>79632763
>just be the first to sing the Trumpets and reveal everything, spill the beans
This will destroy their potential indie career. No one likes NDA breakers and no one wants to take a chance on them. Sure they might get a few pats on the back for it, but no one wants to do business with a leaker.

>>79632254
She had one serious moment after the clipped dead vod thing. She said that you should get both sides of the story and that you dont know what goes on behidn the scenes, she quickly went back to her dumb brat persona afterwards

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>>79632568
Two out of four gone, not great not terrible

>>79632842
>How did people pick up the account?
She started showing signs of life on her OG youtube page. Then she redirected people from her OG youtube to her new twitter acc. Then she started doom posting on her twitter.
I don't feel like digging for RM shit right now.

>>79632395
Anon this isn't even an appearance or anything by Elira. It's a prerecorded greeting voice gift for going to a cafe.

>>79632687
ohhhhhhh she doomin'

denauth had only 1 month before they're fired. top kek.

>>79632395
waste of a sex model

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>>79628917
Looking forward to It

>>79633651
>mint recently played DOOM64
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>>79632842
>kunai
Shes undergoing surgery and will be away for a month or more for recovery and told them to unsub to not waste their money

>>79633840
>She killed the last boss today
>The leak says NijiEN dies today
Bros...

>>79632885
If you mean AR Live, it had been mothballed until after the Q3 report was published in March, two months after she had already left. It was only ever released as part of the Q4 salvage effort.
>>79632936
Counter-point: whistleblower protections are much stronger in the west than they are in Japan; or at least those protections are strong enough that the concept of whistleblower protection (i.e. the concept of it being okay to leak a company yab) exists. If whoever leaked to Raziel proof that Aster is a sex pest gets fired for breaking their NDA by leaking those receipts to her, the western vtuber community won't shun them for it.

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>>79632687

I'm conflicted as fuck. Seeing Rosemi sad is painful, but it pretty much confirms the slaughter that is to come, and watching Niji EN just go ahead and totally collapse in a manner so spectacular that a local child three miles away, blind since birth, could see the flash fills me with a disgusting glee.

>>79631713

There's ongoing reports of Aia self harming and Scarle doomposted in the last hour or so, only to get her post sniped by management.

>>79634453
>sometimes my brain dont work
Space bar

>>79634453
It's sad to see the state NijiEn is in. I was there at debut and things used to be much so fun and happier back in the day. I never could've have imagined things would turn out so bad.

I don't want to be hyped for nothing bros...

>>79631475
>now follows Sayu and Doki.
And she hasn't been terminated?

>>79634617
I still doubt it's actually happening today, but I don't think it's far off.
>>79634725
On her PL account. It'd probably look worse for them to terminate her over that at this point than just ignore it.

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>>79634143
>it had been mothballed until after the Q3 report was published in March
Not quite. The version we got was confirmed to have been recorded late last year, so they at least hadn't *completely* abandoned the project.
>>79632885 is also technically wrong, though—Pomu wasn't in that version of the AR Live to begin with because by then they already knew she'd be graduating.

>>79632988
Ok so she's a niji bootlicker.

>>79632936
if you are in JP and for JP fans yes
if you abandon the JP side completely to All-In win over the west, then it's worth
>>79634143
agreed
the leaker spilling the beans on who was the piece of shit manager who maliciously target fired Selen, confirming it once and for all, would be a hero
sure it's sentencing the prick to getting shanked but they deserve it for what they did + for being the one to end the entire en branch

also I just realized that Doki is the gatekeeper of salvation at this point
anyone she talks with = confirmed good to everyone
anyone she collabs with = 'Saint/Saintess' in everyone's eyes lmao
anyone she + at least Matara collabs with = Maximum ex niji buff

>>79634891
i mean duh, she joined niji post-selen

>>79632988
that was Aia

>>79633076
Found some more hints tracing to it, so I'll add it

>>79633859
added

>>79634453
added

>>79633990
She planned it all, she even carefully planned every attempt so that it would never actually be lethal

I'm gonna doompost here, I despise the fact that cover came back to bilibili and I think this things are only going to get worse from now on
It's a good thing my oshi is huge, but I'm genuinely worried for the slightly less popular girls from hololive

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>>79635363
>I'm gonna doompost here
>Doesn't post Doom
Begone

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>>79634811
>On her PL account. It'd probably look worse for them to terminate her over that at this point than just ignore it.
One of the things they mentioned in Zaion's termination notice was that she was liking things on her PL twitter account which could damage the company's reputation; and "looking worse than doing nothing" is probably not a thing taken into consideration by the same management who admitted in Selen's termination notice that they were harassing her family while she was on her deathbed.
If they terminate her, whether for following Sayu and Doki or because she drew the short straw at the merger, her reaction to the news will be Clarksonian (picrel)

>>79635675
to be fair there is nothing a niijsanji liver could do now to further damage the company reputation
using zaion as a standard is fucking ancient history at this point

>>79635675
>t they were harassing her family while she was on her deathbed.
I was not aware of this
I knew there were trying to call Selen to make her say
>she's fine
hours after getting out, but not including her family too
holy fuck can someone drop the name of the piece of shit already
Riku being a dumbass is a fucking saint compared to that prick

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>>79634975
>Doki being vtuber Jesus
It checks out in my books

>>79635581
FOOTDIVE HIDDEN MISSILES

What if the merger doesn't happen and it's just another graduation instead? Would we have been played as a fool?

>>79635892
Yes, Doki stated that they got in contact with her parents and her emergency contact (Mumei) to get any sort of information on how soon she was graduating and so on.

>>79636250
Depends on who the graduating organ is.

Genuine question
Regardless of who it is, do you guys think that the next graduation will keep quiet or go full scorched earth, reveal everything that's been going on behind the scenes of NijiEn, confirm who the bullies are, reveal how true the GURRAT is (since it's all but inevitable that at least parts of it are true), provide screenshots, etc...?

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>>79635910
The ex nijien Exodus scrambling will be Glorious
Doki, Matara(with her the entirety of Vshoujo) are the 2 different 'Judges' who can absolve or condemn the exniji
true some like Wosemi can run to Phase unless she has beef with Tsunderia that I am not aware of, but apart from that it'll be a Battle Royale

hell at this point Sayu saying someone is nice would be a factor too, so make that 3 'Judges'

>>79636250
>>79636375
>>79636545
if it's just a normal graduation it'll be boring
idk who is left that is ballsy enough to do that
but if it's merge time then we'll be going front seats at the shitshow

What if they announce a new wave?

>>79636545
There's a zero percent chance anyone ever actually opens up about it until the branch goes under JUST IN CASE there is a possibility of getting sued, either by Nijisanji or the people in question.

>>79635892
>>79636361
So first of all it was Niji who mentioned in her termination notice that they made "repeated attempts" to negotiate with her emergency contact. Second, it almost certainly her parents (probably her mother as her dad doesn't seem to speak English all that well).

>>79636737
see the Denauth wave
it'll just be used for the
>Race to 2 digit viewer debut
thing
it'll be enough to satiate the blood lust for abit while niji does nothing but buy time

https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807594975376420951
pack it up, merge ain't happening today. we'll get em next time.

>>79636770
Her parents don't live with her. They live in China, and come back and forth between Canada and China periodically. That's why Doki had that Twitlonger about them overstaying their welcome. Doki specifically said she had to have Mumei stay with her after the attempt.
>>79636855
Krisis is already a part of a group that includes Oriens and Dytica, two groups from NijiJP. Any news coming out about Krisis doesn't actually mean anything.

>>79636375
This, the severity of the graduation by gen is as follows
Luxiem>Noctyx>Lazu>Obsydia>Iluna/Xsoleil>Krisis>Denauth>TTT

People are already expecting Vivi and Kunai to leave.

>>79636855
Oh... Okay. But why the doomposting, then? Scarle's one was pretty blatant.

>>79636250
There are too many livers doomposting, and doing so too conspicuously, for their sadness to be because of a single upcoming graduation. In the first few days following Selen's suspension, there was not even the slightest hint from any of them that someone other than her was about to leave. And in the last 10 days of January, there was not even the slightest hint that someone other than Selen was about to leave AGAIN.

Whatever is demoralizing the lot of them is definitely something bigger than one of them being about to graduate on "good" or even neutral terms. They know something we don't yet know, and it's something huge.

>>79636545
If it's Kunai or Vivi I doubt either of them are going to go full scorched earth, partially because I doubt either of them are really that aware of what happened internally in regards to Selen for the most part. I also get the feeling that for Kunai in particularly she seems too chill and just wants to move on from the entire shitshow.

>Millie
She will go down with the ship, and even if she's forced out I doubt she'll say anything.

>Enna
Already briefly discussed on stream with her French music producer boyfriend that she doesn't see a long term career in what she's doing now, and that she'd like to move into music fully. Doubt she'd risk upsetting potential record labels by spilling the beans.

I think the only real possibility of any of them doing so would be one of the males. I can definitely see Vox being furious enough at the situation he now finds himself in to leak everything.

A bunch of the nijiENs do seem down about things but we can't really be sure what will go down or when and so don't get your hopes up that we'll have affirmative answers within the day.

We might, but you'd think if nijiEN staff are paying attention and knowing it's expected, they might hold off on it just to give a confidence boost to the remaining fans that the vultures circling the sky waiting on nijiEN's demise are wrong and have their sisters and selfpost shilling going full bore trying to say it's a nothingburger and everything's fine. That's the kind of thing sniveling assholes do and that's precisely what nijiEN is so don't expect them to go down clean without a pointless screamy fight. The black stream is still up on Elira's channel, they haven't taken any real measures to soften their stances or prove the accusations against them are wrong, they don't care if you fucking hate them with all your might and will just act like they're better than you for it. They won't want to gives us the satisfaction, in other words.

>>79637202
can we consider Finana being stupid enough to leak shit too or would be she play safe

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>>79636855
RICHARDS

>>79637292
She’s surprisingly able to tow the line when it comes to critical information, she’s just an idiot outside of that.

>>79637202
>she'd like to move into music fully
That's basically admitting she's going to graduate. There have been JP organs who've left explicitly because niji doesn't do anything to support music careers.

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Why merge is a bad thing? What exactly changes after what?

>>79637202
Vox is absolutely the kind of menhera that would go scorched earth if he isn't in nijisanji, especially if he knows ex-nijis get more clout by shitting on niji

>>79637292
There's no reason to think that anyone would trust Finana with information that matters, and any information she would get incidentally - like from being in a Slack or Discord where shit went down - she lacks the intelligence to parse into anything useful.

>>79637414
From what we've seen, if they merge they'll get a lot less support. Fewer chances for Merch/Projects/Concerts etc. If they can speak Japanese and cozy up to Kazuha they can actually do pretty well but those who don't speak JP will receive almost no support and they'll ignore them until they graduate.

>>79637292
She is probably stupid enough to not know any important shit
>>79636545
>>79637202
Luka being fired would be a glorious shitshow. He is just immature enough to go full retard

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>>79637414
Even if nothing changes It means they gave up on the EN market.

>>79637414
The basic results with be
a.) nijiEN staff are liquidated or absorbed back into main company if possible/logical
b.) no more new waves. the acceleration would finally cease, forever.
c.) remaining members can keep doing their thing as long as they want but they're practically like indies within the company, they won't get special events/merch etc but might show up along for the ride if nijisanji decides to do something overall somewhere

>>79637414
Past instances have shown that losing their identity as a branch makes them lose their management and representation, too. They’re essentially floating adrift in a market that sees them as gaijin and most of them cannot properly speak Japanese, so...

if the merge happens, do you guys think it's a complete reset to start the EN branch from the start? or would it be a full on barring the EN branch from ever happening

>>79637593
>Practically indies within the company
>NijiToll
Grim

>>79631710
Really hope you're wrong

>>79637471
if he frames it as niji management lying to him about what's in the documents and made him think that he committed friendly fire to Selen on the black stream, complete with name-dropping the piece of shit who maliciously targeted Selen and ending the Among Us game once and for all, even he could climb back from the pits of hell
especially if he blames it the NDA binding contract but it's gone now that en is merged
all It takes is that +1 collab with Doki and he'll be back to half of where he started
Vox if you are reading this you know what to do
>>79637509
>>79637552
>>79637363
oh true I forgot
she's too stupid and untrustworthy for that
it would ironically have helped her if she didn't go snake on Zaion
>>79637414
see niji ID and niji KR

>>79637414
Merge didn't fix anything for ID and KR and was pretty much used to hide the Chae Ara's bullying shitshow in KR
A lot of KR chose to quit with the merger announcement and the only ones "thriving" remaining are the ones that speak JP
ID didn't receive any help and in fact started receiving less help with their merger now only like 5 of them remain with a bunch doing well solo or with the next best ID company that isn't holo

>>79637292
She spoke with Zaion shortly after the termination to clear things up. But then management caught wind of it, and "talked" to her; suddenly she goes on stream to tell the world that she was totally gaslit by Zaion.
She won't leak anything before she leaves. She was already forced to ruin one friendship.
>>79637414
>Why merge is a bad thing?
Ask the ex-ID talents.

>>79637577
>that gif
Kek

>>79637670
They won’t reset that concept with the clique being around. It’s radioactive so long as at least The Three Stooges are there, and even if the JP NDF don’t care, the EN market is still way too on-guard.

>>79637758
if he blames the NDA on why he can't post publicly why + how he can't apologize directly(even if he may/may not have done it privately)
>>79637797
so the Feesh has a chance of redemption if at least Zaion gives a go?

>>79637857
that's what i'm saying, they're letting go or letting people join NijiJP to clean NijiEN completely and they will come back to it maybe after a year with completely new members

>>79637748
I hope so too but it's pretty easy to notice patterns. There's a graduation happening and you better be ready.

>>79637670
wounds too fresh
right now it would take Riku's head + the entirety of the upper management's head + a full confirmation and name, with picture, on the specific prick who maliciously targeted pushed Selen to her anhero x2 attempts
that's just the basic starting line

you'd need to do that + someone respectable like Yagoo or Keanu Reeves buying out NijiEn for trust to be there again
right now everyone not in JP is hellbent on keeping niji outside of the Not Japan world
basically magnitudes more trouble than it's worth

>>79638035
so if the merger happens they just abandon the EN part? i'm sure not a lot of EN viewers will watch JP streams

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Can you imagine the amount of recriminations that are happening right now or during the last 5 months inside of Niji EN?

>>79638035
>Keanu Reeves
Hold up, I can use this, just wait a few months

>>79638156
It must be so stressful though. I bet you that Vox's British genes and all the stress has made him bald already.

>>79638123
I mean, they don't exactly have a lot of EN viewers watching their EN streams

>>79629606
Didn't meloco and shu have a stream for JP talking about niji en

>>79638123
yes, we have niji ID and niji KR as easy examples
>>79638156
this is where the fun begins

>>79638123
That’s effectively why the merge is treated like a death sentence. Losing your branding, whatever paltry management you had, and your identity in one go just kills your chances if you don’t do what Shu,p or Meloco are currently doing by courting the JP audience to their own channels.

>>79630391
No .... All those outfits

>>79638224
Yes they have started a radio show called "NijiEN Radio" where they speak in Japanese to tell Japanese people about EN

>>79638199
>>79638274
>>79638290
oof...... like... i know a lot of jps in niji sit at +200 viewers every stream but this is just rough...

>>79638319
In a warped sense, it’s kind of like a eulogy podcast, especially since Meloco probably planned for exactly this scenario, what with her dodging VTA.

>>79638224
This is the strongest evidence of the merger, imo. Selling nijiEN to JP is nonsensical outside of the merger being real. They already have NijiJP to sell to JP. That's the point.

>>79633990
Kojima, I just got out of intensive care. My knees won't last another time!

>>79638123
They'll probably still do english streams and their existing fans will still watch but yeah it'll kill any growth on the EN side. But it's not like they have that right now anyway.

>>79638375
>>79638498
>>79638564
I can see them framing it as a 'good thing'
then new waves from niji would be more VTA skippers who can 'speak' English but it's all purely JP, just to say that they still have nijien/nijiworld or global or idfk
but in all options, the en branch with the current batch is fucked
>>79638182
kek
not sure if will be used in Bizzaro /vt/ or here

>>79637552
>Luka being fired
will not happen before the merger. He's one of the EN golden children, and EN management would sooner close the branch than punish Elira or anyone from Luxiem or Noctyx.
>>79637861
>so the Feesh has a chance of redemption if at least Zaion gives a go?
It's not outside the realm of possibility, for her or for Kotoka. In fact it's why I think there's a non-zero chance that it's the real reason behind Kotoka's absence - she may have extended an olive branch to Sayu, or accepted one from her; but management found out about it.
Sayu forgave Kenji for publicly implying she was a pedophile and inciting a twitter hate mob against her. I think she might be willing to forgive Finana and Kotoka if they ask her for forgiveness, especially given the context of them being forced to slander her as a condition of continued employment.

If either Finana or Kotoka gets terminated for trying to bury the hatchet with Sayu, the other absolutely will be forced to do a black screen slandering. This would be easier for Niji to enforce if the talent doing the slandering is physically in Japan; Kotoka lives in Japan, while Finana is currently there on company business for only a few weeks.

Niji just got announced new figures... we got too cocky doombros

>>79638900
it specifically says "NIJI EN LIVERS" to differentiate them from the Niji JPs when the merger happens, bro

>>79638877
basically the friendship is a waiting game until the merge happens
straight out of anime kek

>>79638900
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807602710927344063
Can you FAGGOTS post the FUCKING tweets when you MENTION THEM?

>>79638199
The streams aren't being watched, but the branch itself is. And with more eyes on it than Kiryu Coco and Kizuna Ai's graduations combined.
Unfortunately for the branch and the livers, the watching is being done with the same energy and enthusiasm you'd normally find at a candlelight vigil.

>>79639376
Ok. Packed It Up. We were wrong. No way they pull a merger after this. Right?

>>79638900
>It's another episode of /vt/ dramamonkeys getting btfo
Quick lads, let's brainstorm the next arbitrary date for the fabled merge. Surely we'll get it right this time!

>>79638900
i mean the rrat post is not even credible in the first place.
and the image file name is different from previous leaker

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>>79639376
Is Elira the face of EN? Why does she get all the merch?
A Scarle figure would've sold well

>>79639376
Huh, surprised that they didn’t go for Vox for this.

>>79639717
it's public info by this point that all figurines/deals/promotions go through elira who is a head of niji EN and she chooses to put herself in them to get as much money as possible, i don't think there was ever a promotion that she didn't do herself

Another common sign for imminent graduations is VoD deletion. I occasionally go through holodex and check for a deleted/hidden things.

>>79639376
>it’s all clique shitters again

>>79639376
>Sell figurines when they can't sell out a concert

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>>79638900
>>79639376
>5 figures
>features members from the first 5 waves
>...except Obsydia

Also, they really can't do a merch line without Elira, huh? The famous NijiEN favouritism strikes again.

>>79639800
they forgot Millie though lmao

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>>79639376
Next time Riku, I promise i'll get you.. NEXT TIIIIIME!

>>79639587
I don't think they'll announce a "merger" but they will announce something - a rebranding (to obscure a merger), a graduation, a termination - within the next few weeks. The doomposting is too strong to be just about the concert.
>>79639687
There's been four seperate leakers on this board, and then Raziel.
>Krisis leaker
>Mysta graduation leaker
>Aster harassing Scarle leaker
>Literally Fulgur
>>79639717
>>79639772
>>79639800
>>79639864
Just note that most of these are likely not the graduation coming up. Millie being absent and Ike's repeated absence with his nendoroid not getting posted are some other things to note.

>>79639717
>elira
>her friend
>her simp
>the sexpest that will literally never get fired
>the bootlicker
100% Selen and Pomu would've been ignored if they were still there

>>79639863
>He doesn't know
Figures sell out during the last week of the sales period holokek

>>79639864
rent free faggoon, you guys were hoping for en to fall yet we get more stuffs instead:) now go to bed like a good little boy.

>>79640078
>stuffs
SEA detected

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>Duellogs
More signs that Vivi is on her way out at least.

>>79640078
NTA but they are kind of doomed nevertheless
it's just a matter of how soon
>>79640102
sea monkey here, please don't lump me in with them thanks
hell for all we know it's probably Millie posting that

>>79640119
He's actually just looking to poach, since he's making his own small corpo. Has he been interacting with her PL?

>>79640119
>duellogs unironically following a twitter about /vt/
does he post here?
is he the number 1 rosemei defender

>>79639780
ngl it's pretty funny that a big part of Elira's malevolence is just her funneling herself extra merch deals when Niji's merch cut is infamously terrible. The white-collar equivalent of rummaging through the fountain at the mall to "steal" all the pennies in the water.
I miss when the Gurrat was fresh and people were speculating that she had been committing outright embezzlement. That was at least funny.

>>79639796
That... is only a sign of imminent termination. When a liver graduates and chooses not to keep their vods up (or is denied the choice due to the circumstances of their graduation), their vods don't get privated until after they graduate, and are privated by management; the sole exception is Gundou, who personally privated her vods during her graduation stream.

>>79640201
>>79640269
unless Wosemi has beef with Tsunderia when she left, he'll have to match the Feeshman's offer to her poaching kek

>sudden phasebegging

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>>79640524
I asked about whether he had talked to Vivi, so please don't respond to me if you don't have a answer to that question.

>>79640673
i don't think he needs to publicly if he hasn't since they were close before she left for niji

>>79640583
Please be nice to Flay's Connect fans, bringing their off-topic shit into unrelated discussions is the only way they can feel relevant.

>>79640744
Bring her back to the moon, spiderlogs

>>79640744
It's mostly for confirmation purposes - if he's interacting with her on her PL, there's a very good chance she's graduating. He used to be her boss.
It doesn't matter, anyway, because he hasn't.

>>79640049
These were originally announced during NijiFes in December, back when they were both still with the company (plus they probably heard about it beforehand). Them not being chosen probably helped push them both to leave.

Truly, God has forsaken our beautiful planet by continuing to allow those disgusting creatures to release more garbage that will wind up in landfills.

>>79640856
Wait, these figures were in-motion since that announcement? Interesting.

>>79641883
Ike has had a figure announced that hasn't been revealed for NEARLY A YEAR, man.
https://x.com/ike_eveland/status/1678776453553430528

>>79642251
It was shown off with Kagami's at this past WonFes.

The merger process takes a while to work through, so it'll be a while from the livers getting notified about the merger to the company announcing the merger to the public.

>>79642572
Bold of you to assume that management will give the livers more advance notice of the merger than the advance notice they were given for Selen's termination.

>>79642572
Doesn't Matter. We are here because all the doomposting. I almost believe they where baiting us since the beggining, and that even the leak was fake. That's it. That's my rrat. All this was orchestrated to make fun of nijiantis.

can someone post the July 1st rrat?
thought it was dumb and never saved it, now kinda regretted it

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>>79642879
I got you covered anon

>>79642879
>>79643066
can you two make out and i will watch

>>79642823
God I want to believe this so badly but the amount of times that I’ve said this in my mind but then eventually something happens— example would be the AX live cancellation— I’m at that point where I just let time or karma take its course.

>>79636035
FOOT FOOT FOOT FOOT FOOTDIVE

>>79643221
PLASMA BEAM
YOU HAVE NO HOPE

>>79643066
apart from the date there, what was the significant deadline around July 1?
which made the rrat more plausible

>>79643497
All the bad news coming right after (AX cancelation, doomposting on social media) made it seem likely.

>>79643703
no specific deadline contract-wise, like just the rrat for July 1?
they could've been told that the brach is getting merged for the doom posting, but that can still be months away from being officially anounced
maybe I misread shit because there was a deadline related to 07/01 specifically iunno

>>79643066
I find it hard to believe this. Yes, the branch is objectively declining, but it's still not completely in the toilet yet in terms of money being made. I can see a few more graduations coming soon, but a full on merge still seems another half to full year away assuming the decline continues with no recovery.

>>79643960
I think a immediate closure is just out the window right now.

If something's gonna happen, it's either:
A.) A date of the actual closure
B.) Graduation, plural. But, it being plural it may be ID Style graduations where they're announced for the upcoming months.

>>79644435
sure they will keep milking them as long as they can, but they still said they would be focusing on JP and not EN and now everyone's dooming in some way

>>79644435
Depends on long term plans, they may consider it's easier to kill NijiEN as it exists today to launch a new version in a couple years, we know they want a successful NijiEN but as it is right now NijiEN is poisoned with a very unlikely chance to recover to its former glory, an early mercy kill to come back stronger doesn't feel outside the realm of possibility

Potentially related stock market update: AC just dipped under 2700.
Obviously it's still too early to mean anything, since there's still over an hour and a half left in today's trading. But the odometer effect is kind of a thing, and the second digit in the odometer just fell.

>>79645197
>dipping below 2700 with all that effort to curtail it
wew

https://x.com/i/status/1047399330141761536
IT'S HAPPENING

>>79636744
can't get sued if they can't spell your name right on the NDA and you never sign it.

Obvious fake aside, it's actually happening:
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807210698662945220
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807210698662945220
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807210698662945220
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1807210698662945220

>>79643497
It's the start of the new quarter.

>>79645571
AHHHHHHH ISREAL!!!!!!!!!!!

>>79634975
>the leaker spilling the beans on who was the piece of shit manager who maliciously target fired Selen, confirming it once and for all, would be a hero
I don't think it's possible for it to have just been one manager. One random, minimum wage teenage hire wouldn't have enough clout to fuck with her projects, perms, and sponsorships.

>>79636361
The mumei being her emergency contact was a joke people made due to the timing. I doubt she actually was that emergency contact.
It's more likely it was just her parents, and that they were in fact harassing them just to get Selen to walk back her tweet. They had no reason to negotiate with her emergency contact for any purpose.

>>79637057
Doki did not say mumei stayed with her after the attempt. She said that notmumei invited her to her house and they watched movies together.

>>79646055
Elira would

>>79636035
>>79643221
>>79643414
based MAHVEL degens
i c u

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>>79634975
>>79635910
Saint Doki

Mel Nekomata doomposting about her coworker she's got the hots for, seems like she is extremely overbearing and it could very likely wind up in her being reported to HR at work and losing her job at Target. I hope whoever this guy is, if he even exists, gets away from this nutcase NOW.
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1800910139236729206
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1801644804117283237
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1801801956584816707
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1802012185150771388
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1802012745761440192
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1803272239543881984
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1803509211051208732
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1806132333252080006
https://twitter.com/Fuwa_kyo/status/1807562003717787676

>>79647733
Is this mel person the DSP of vtubers

>>79638877
Sayu would probably forgive someone who literally raped her and cut off her arm. The woman is ridiculously forgiving/naive in that way. As long as you show any signs of remorse and promises of not to do the thing again, your slate is cleared with her.
She is very, very stupid with this and this is why she gets exploited all the time.

That said, Kotoka hasn't done shit. I know time moves slowly this year, but her little ill-advised watchalong where she went into further detail about Kotoka and Finana happened in May, and Kotoka went MIA in February after the Mel thing.

>>79647781
Mel Nekomata lied about having cancer to scam money out of people and used the scammed money to purchase hundreds of models so she could abandon the fans she did not like time and time again and reincarnate.

>>79647954
hold up isnt that illegal? lying about having cancer or any type of medical thing for financial gain? why hasnt she been looked into legally?

>>79648007
sonny from niji faked his death before joining niji, nobody cares

>>79648053
sonny didnt fake his death for financial gain, thats the biggest difference from sonny and mel

>>79628828
Let's wait

>>79646055
>hey this bitch is so fucking hard to work with, wants to do so much stuff
>cool, leave her to me, i'll manage her just leave her to me
this would be post management change
>>79646975
assuming the clique ISRAEL, I don't think it would be from Elira herself
being the favorite at getting promotions sure, but we haven't had any yabai from her not even once regarding Selen apart from radio silence
but she is bffs with someone who is a petty enough piece of shit, and her hands(for her) would are clean if she just does nothing herself and enables a piece of shit so...
meanwhile said bff of hers has been taking potshots on Selen here and there, from the
>Apex predator bringing you down
to
>Happiest year of her life

>>79648132
didn't he open up a donation page after announcing his "terminal illness"?
>>79648414
Selen was passed around at least 3 managers, apparently. The biggest issue was moreso that she couldn't just hire or delegate her own staff. One single minimum-wage, underqualified ESL manager couldn't possibly handle both her AND 5-10 other people. The corporation was fucking rotten and unable to support her properly, and it's far more likely that it was more than just one person higher up the food chain hating her for making them all look bad or incompetent. Face is everything to them, after all. Can't have the nail stick out.

>>79645110
>they may consider it's easier to kill NijiEN as it exists today to launch a new version in a couple years
It might work, if they can somehow make the entire overseas market forget that they've already had two catastrophically failed branches named Nijisanji EN
The JP bros might be cowed into pretending to have un-learned of the second EN branch's existence once the third EN branch debuts, since publicly acknowledging second EN's existence would damage Anycolor's reputation and would open them up to a slander/defamation lawsuit. But that kind of pressure would not work in Not Japan, which is literally the exact market they'd be trying to tap into with third EN (and also the exact market they've lost forever due to their gross mismanagement of second EN)

>>79645573
>It's the start of the new quarter.
Of the calendar year, perhaps. But Niji's fiscal quarters begin on the first days of May, August, November, and February. So if their plan is to nuke EN on the first day of Q2, then they'll do it on either August 1st or 2nd (1st is a Sunday)
Likewise, if they plan to nuke EN on the last day of Q1, then it'll happen on either July 30 (Friday, last business day) or July 31 (Saturday, last calendar day)

>>79648640
she was still able to do her old tourneys and the likes initially
old NijiEn was also kino and everyone was chilling, at least no one tried to anhero back then
it's some time on 2023, right when niji went public and the old management bailed to become cryptocucks, when shit started going downhill
followed by Selen projects with her tourneys getting denied which culminated to her anhero attempt
Sayu also mentioned that her old management that she was with during her onboard training for months + the one she got close to was different from the actual manager 'handling' her
there was 1 main specific piece of shit, idk if someone brought, or if old manager stopped it, or something idk, but that prick was someone that maliciously went ham on Selen
what Selen got was not just neglect, it's something more targeted
the level of petty maliciousness down to the negligible thing(this is not something Riku would say), or the timing of the black stream just short time sometime after Riku bowing thanks to the actions related to filthy gaijins(which ruins Riku's big gesture in Japan of apologizing, let alone bowing), means there's someone different behind the signs who is handling nijien
a specific one, probably the one who thought the black stream was a good idea
a main most culprit who is the fault of all that happened to her
and that's the name that needs to be revealed already
even better if there's a picture

So, say we're (likely) wrong about this being a closure announcement. What's the running theory then? Graduation(s)? Considering recent activities in the last week, who among Niji would make potentially Sonny, Elira, Millie, Scarle, doompost? Ethyria/Petra?

>>79632308
bro too soon

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Could it be that the organs are just depressed because everyone who leaves Kurosanji automatically becomes 10x more successful than them?

>>79649103
>old NijiEn was also kino and everyone was chilling, at least no one tried to anhero back then
It was not. The cracks were forming as early as sep 2021 with that resident evil 4 fiasco, and Selen accidentally getting NijiKR bonked for doing unarchived karaokes by asking if she could do the same. Selen's been fighting them since the beginning.

>>79649103
You mean that yasuhiro guy? He threatened to slander sayu unless she signs a silencing contract and only gave her 2 hours

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>>79649333
Leaving is always an option.

Rrat's slain

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>>79650319
rrats cooked

>>79645571
thank you anon

>>79649103
As I say in every thread looking for the chief rat bastard. It's Harry. Literally everything bad that happens in NijiEN? Oh look why did Harry's name show up again? When his name showed up on the Zaion legal threats thing I immediately went "of fucking course." That fucker had barely been in the office for a fucking week at that point, and he was already pulling shit like that.

>Maria announcement
is it doom time?

>>79652167
>e-guitar starts playing

>>79649333
>*Laughs in Quinn*

>>79647733
>>79647954
How the FUCK do you keep tracking her down every single time? It's like her 200th account.

>>79648132
>sonny didnt fake his death for financial gain
That's literally what he did, though.

>>79652558
>"Hey guys, I'm dead, please donate"

>>79652868
Yes
>"hey guys I'm dying, here's an open donation link, please donate before I die"
>keeps the donation open after his "death"

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>>79630391
>t-they are just talking about the concert

Don't cross-post to our general again you faggots.

>>79653714
Whomst?

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>the sanctity of muh general hath been besmirched

Weren't folks saying if it was going to happen, the announcement would be at 11GMT? We got a couple more hours, then we can go tell the rrat they're full of shit.

nothing is going to happen especially not right before the fucking AX appearance

If this was all just a rrat it'll be the second biggest disappointment next to the hamburger hat

So what was all the dooming about then?

>>79656241
good bants

>>79654782
>>79654909
>>79654967
>>79656241
You retards never learn huh?

>>79652506
Because she posts it /here/ each time herself to notify her paypigs.

>>79656410
Retard

>>79656241
>The concert was cancelled because no one bought the fucking tickets
>The fans are blaming the antis and making up non-existent threats instead of asking Anycolor for explanations and proper support for EN
>The organs are finally realizing that they have hit a dead end in the west and that they are not getting back the fans they lost
>The ones who went to Japan to record stuff for the concert have wasted their money for nothing
>JP management is not happy with them
>Vivi and Kunai are on their way out
>They probably didn't expect that the NBA stuff would only be available for Japan
>The JP fans are wary of EN
Add to that the fact that literally every single one of them is aware of what the community thinks about them, and you have plenty of reasons to doompost

>>79657166
Anyone who oshis a liver should be telling them daily how much they love them and that they can survive or even thrive outside of niji, anything less is negligence

So this was just a nothingburger?
fuck, got my hopes up for nothing

>>79657501

Was fun while it lasted though. Not convinced coordinated doomposting is a nothingburger, but it looks like it's off for today.

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>>79632687

>>79654909
This. *If* anything happens, it'll be after this weekend.

Nothing happened. You liars, I hate you.

>>79657166
>>The organs are finally realizing that they have hit a dead end in the west and that they are not getting back the fans they lost
they'd have to be brain dead to not realize this at the latest 3 months ago, that's being super generous

>>79647781
I think she's worse to be honest. As someone who watched him back in 2008/2009 he was at least somewhat entertaining back then, didn't act like a complete piece of shit - and also wasn't constantly begging for money. She's always been a grifter and never really entertaining.

>>79663785
They were doom posting 3 months ago too.

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>>79663752
Maybe the real rrat was the friends we made along the way

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>>79664436
You're right.. I love you /doom/bros you're a real one

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>>79628828
I love how the only content nijien has left basically boils down to "are you dead yet".

>>79666544
there's still enough wiggle room for
>wtf did they do this time
also bonus quest of 2view debut
but yea the officially dead/merge part is the main event
just a matter of if and not when

>>79666885
just a matter of when* not if
fuck

>>79632568
>2/4 left
>Doki becomes indie darling
>Mint has VShojo gunning on her ass

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>>79667108
>Enna joins Hololive
>Vox starts his own male vtuber agency

>>79640269
YGO is one of the major things this site agrees on
It has generals in /v/, /vg/, and /tg/ and everyone understands YGO references
I suspects he's one of /dng/;s oldfags that exclusively used simulators because it was a source of meme deck wizardry

>>79667250
Kiara and Mumei would instantly veto Enna's audition

>>79667444
Ummmmmmm, sweaty? Kiara is besties with Enna. They hang out irl and all that.

>>79667444
>implying they wouldn't find out too late
>implying Mumei wasn't an Enna agent to begin with
>implying you understand the plan
I'd use an Enna image, but I don't want to be confused for Ennaschizo.

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>>79663785
They've known since Feb 12 that things will never get better for Niji EN, not ever. It's just that the cancellation of the AX concert means that things are officially bad enough that they no longer need to pretend to be unaware of how bad things are.

>>79668063
>They've known since Feb 12 that things will never get better for Niji EN, not ever.
I don't know, Enna and Millie were high on copium for a long time, and I'm sure Vox thought he could get away with it.

>>79668063
I think a lot of them really believed it was going to be fine in a month or two. Probably only around mid-April did the realization start to sink in the views and subs weren't coming back.

>>79668845
I think AX was when the realization came, which is why they started doomposting. There were a lot of bad signs until then, but the fact that Niji invested no money in marketing and opted to cancel the concert, without even trying to discount the price of tickets is as clear a message as you can get. This wasn't the fans giving up on them, this was Nijisanji giving up on them.
They're not going to be officially merged, but support is obviously getting cut to zero and I believe most livers don't have a plan B, haven't even consider it. This includes Aia, Scarle and Rosemi. Kunai, Vivi and maybe Claude are ready to bolt as soon as the gun pops, but anyone besides these three is just starting to wonder what to do next, how to handle stuff, etc. Don't expect anyone, but TTT, to leave anytime soon.

>>79668845
A few days after the termination but before the black screen, some of them were beginning to regain the subs they had just lost. If management hadn't allowed/forced the black screen to happen, things actually would have been fine in a month or two.

Whatever complicity Elira and Vox and... um... the other one may have had in making the black screen happen is irrelevant. Management broke the NDA they signed with Doki's lawyer(s) in giving the three of them her documents; and even if the three of them are 100% responsible for the black screen, even if they genuinely volunteered and were not voluntold, it's STILL management's fault for not stopping it from happening when they could have and should have. So in effect the black screen and its fallout is 100% management's fault.

It's over and they know it. The only thing the future holds for the branch is the official notice of the branch's closure.

And all because Docringebird had to throw a hissy fit.

What a bitch.

>>79670614
>cringebird
But enough about Enna

>>79670614
Doki was just trying to play neopets when the black screen stream happened, fuck out of here with that shit

None of this would have happened if Nijisanji weren't evil.

>>79671152
True

>>79670471
>Whatever complicity Elira and Vox and... um... the other one may have had in making the black screen happen is irrelevant.
...I wouldn't say it's irrelevant. It's true that management is ultimately responsible for what happened, but the three stooges still gave their OK to participate in the smear campaign against a suicide victim, and they even revealed that Enna and Millie were somehow involved in the drama as well. There's a reason why the original fans abandoned NijiEN and didn't stay to fight for the branch: the trust between fans and streamers has been broken beyond repair.

People don't care about flashy concerts or 3D debuts, what they actually want is to have a good time with funny anime characters. And you can't have that when the organs are involved in shady stuff like the black frame stream.

>>79671460
the issue is also never resolved even until now
which is why some like me want to get the chief rrat head already
i'm not sure who Harry is, but no heads have rolled yet even as a sacrifice to the masses
as far as the fandom is concerned, their Liver could be next to get Selenned
if Riku was smart he would've offered that head on a plate when he was made to bow to filthy gaijins

>>79669368
>most livers don't have a plan B, haven't even consider it. This includes Aia, Scarle and Rosemi.
Arguably Aia does "have" a plan B. She did after all poke around her old account, and then talked about "if she ever returned she wouldn't be doing same content as before".
She's well aware people know of her old account, it doesn't take a titan of intellect to make a jump to "I could go back and keep doing my thing there, instead of rotting at Niji." It's mostly a question of if she's desperate enough yet.

>>79630391
>I no having
ebonics

I wonder if it's a graduation.

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>>79667643
>Mumei
>an Enna agent

>>79673503
I hope it's not Hex. If it's him, I swear to fuck i'm going to strangle someone.

>>79674955
Let me guess, its because he was a meanie to sayu and you want to see him destroyed and ruined.

>>79675099
>Sayu out of nowhere
No, sister, you are afucking idiot. it's because i don't want to see Manjisanji privilege AGAIN.

>>79674849
All part of Vtori

>>79675253
Hahaha if you say so. No one's gonna judge you for that, you know.

>>79676024
>enna
>part of vtori
>the cunt who hates birds more than anyone else