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So when is the Hololive x GSC panel taking place?
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
>>79950080nigga IP is one of the things that has global reach trough treaties
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcs
>>79950149akua sexo
>>79950149How much is Mythic going to pay to buy the commercial rights?
Anycolor has announced a date for their 7th annual Shareholder's meeting. It hasn't been shown in the EN version of their IR but their Japanese version of the IR shows that Anycolor will have their meeting on the 30th of July.Which means, at the time of writing are now 25 days away from the meeting.
/#/ is declining
>>79950149don't be stupid
>>79950081You have to remember that GSC has at least some significant amount of investment of time and resources into this as a product, and won't be prone to just drop it outright. I'd imagine Fillian will have a window to resolve this with the original licensor, and if they either don't want to extend commercial rights or Fillian isn't capable of finding or meeting an agreement they're happy with, GSC would at that point probably drop it as a project despite the funds that have gone towards it so far.
>>79950149READ YOUR FUCKING CONTRACTS
>>79950149That Kronii is the numbers queen
>>79950114Recent clip numbers>>79878924>>79878961>>79878979
Last Aqua to start this thread of right now time for bed gn # enjoy SEA
>>79950137oh god, the panel is going to be poisoned by this filian shit isn't it.
>>79950149Always consult your lawyers
>>79950019In that case the one who would lose more are Yootooz and GS(were they to continue releasing the nendo), Fillian is probably only receive the initial license payout regardless of the sale number. Her plushies though, pretty sure she'd lose the most from it (2-3k of them right?).
I don't get it, Fillian can just buy the model from the creator. It's not a yab worth talking about honestly.
>>79950232please don't go. Aqua is so much better than the ESL schizos.
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>>79950188They had an announcement and concept art anon, there's not that much investment behind it. I doubt they were even close to tooling up for production.
>>79950233I don't think so, we may get one quest throwing shade at filian
>>79950251Or just use the most basic common sense of reading the (very simple and straightforward) license for the thing you plan to center your entire small business and branding identity around.
Do you think this guy will report news on Filian? Since they from the same org and all.
>>79950149Only hololive matters
>>79950251>>79950194They didn't listen to pinkcat and that white one that i forget the name who's Soda gf
>>79950266Should've done that before doing this, now the creator sees the moolas for the merch
>>79950177Does Mythic have to tho? Aren't they basically just middleman?
Would kronii have been happier person today if she had debuted with her newest outfit as her default?
>>79950019>okay, I deserve x% of your profitsIs interesting that it's not 100%businesses can just violate commerical rights and pay up afterwards then so long as they still made enough money
* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *>07/04 TALLY:12,002: Raora (Hololive) | Elden Ring10,632: Bijou (Hololive) | Elden Ring10,016: Elizabeth (Hololive) | Undertale9,505: Cecilia (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die w/ Gigi8,871: Gigi (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die w/ Cecilia7,116: Mori (Hololive) | Elden Ring5,823: Mori (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 20241) Mumei (Hololive) - 15,906 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Raora (Hololive) - 15,533 - Don't Scream3) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 19,688 - Unarchived Karaoke4) Raora (Hololive) - 12,002 - Elden Ring>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Raora1x: Elizabeth, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)13p: Raora7p: Cecilia, Elizabeth5p: Mumei3p: Bijou1p: Mori
>>79950308drama channel will bite everythingits their life blood
Do we know who in EN is in JP right now? Or suspected to be?Other than advent and chadcast of course
>>79950266It really all depends on the artist if he wants a huge pile of free instant money or not. I bet he hates money, r-right filianbros?
>>79950149That /#/s likes posting lewd images of a mentally underdeveloped girl.
>>79950177Mythic is gonna throw her under the bus cause Asmon doesn't want to deal with an international IP lawsuit where they're 100% in the wrong to start with.>She reassured us that she had ownership of her IP and we took her at her word.
>>79950275For that none of us should have any ideal. Unless your uncle is working for GSC.
>>79950188GSC cancelled the Mel nendo despite already having a gray prototype for it. them cancelling Fillian's nendo is negligible to their profits so they can afford it. it's up to fillian to deal with the problem
>>79950275I think you're underestimating how many steps are involved for the project to get to the point it currently is, and how much of a scheduling/budgeting/planning function exists for a company like GSC when it comes to a project like this.It's not anywhere close to what production itself costs, obviously, but it is still a degree of cost that I doubt any company wants to immediately throw away without at least an initial attempt to resolve first. That being said, they may be significantly more wary about working with people like Fillian in the future.
>>79950267One more just for you, buddy.
>>79950317
>>79950348kiararaorai think ina is heading there soon?mumei might be
>>79950164EN?
>>79950295That is if they made papers for it, was it really that hard to just contact your artist for confirmation and consulting your lawyer to ensure things wouldn't go south
>>79950266>steal an Iphone from the store>get caught>"w-well I can just pay now, after you caught me, right officer? That doesn't make it theft anymore, right?
So what's all this about lawsuits, Asmon and contracts? Did Niji fuckup again or was it the indies this time?
>>79950354What's wrong with that?
>>79950266You can't just pay for the things you stole and be absolved of theft
>>79950308Dude, this is a feast of the highest order for them. The fact that they can sprinkle in some good holonews AND it being relevant is also a blessing
>>79950299Who cares about CCV? She made bank.
>>79950475Fillian finally has the first yab in her career
>>79950149Hololive won by doing nothing.
The real shitty part of all this is my uncle who works are Rare told me GSC was so excited about the filian nendo that they pushed it ahead of the queue by swapping its position with kiaras nendo
>>79950266Witcher fuck up won't happen now, owner will go Tallarico
>>79950509>the firstlol
>>79950348>Kiara>Advent >Ina?>Mori>Bae>IRyS >Haachama I suspect Gura will be there soon
>>79950149Companies should just stick to making holo merch
>>79950376International lawsuits are the easiest. Asmon can just ignore it and little JP artist can cry about it
>>79950555sharkie has went into hibernation until her next merch run, sorry.
>>79950555I thought I typed Raora...
>>79950420To be fair, Filian is like the only one retarded enough to never secure the rights to their own model/IP. Even the neuro creator realized he needed to do that.
>>79950266Well sure except she have profited off that model many times now, and the creator want their share from that
>>79950524my uncle who works at the same company thinks your uncle is a dumbass
Strange...Jellyfag ain't here what happened?
Nursing handjob please
>>79950516By doing things according to the books, to the letter, autistically
>>79950149It's such a weird situation because, Filian knew about this.There are clips of her talking about how she needs a new model for merch because this one is free to use.It's why Gosegu got a model update/change before making merch too.
>>79950114THE SACRED THREADS
Filain is going to get a real model and hire her own artist, after all this is said and done. Any suggestions for her new art mama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycqL0XfFpPEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmvTgp06bghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asTXK9IFbIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_lfqhRW0Ayeah, I'm thinking nijiEN is BACK
>>79950649You need to understand that making a new model is hard work and fuck that
>>79950475Asmon owns mythic and Filian is a part of mythic. Filian never secured the rights to her IP and the original artist just found out she has been selling official merch using his model with the nendo announcement.
>>79950608She did all the work though.I've always said copyright shouldn't last longer than one month. Fucking Disney
>>79950322Sometimes it's an argument of the amount of contribution the original IP constitutes.Going back to the font example, I might not be able to claim that the use of my font was responsible for 100% of the profit of this particular product, but I can claim that at least a portion of the overall revenue made would constitute the damages of your violating my license and using it commercially.This is often why extending rights to commercial use says something like "contact the licensor" instead of just giving you a raw sum, because as the original creator there's a big difference between selling you an extended license to use the model in some small limited-run keychain set and selling you an extended license to use the model in an expensive large-run retail product. You're not going to just use a flat rate for any and all commercial products, unless you like getting ripped off.
Cute
>>79950649Better archive them, if she wants to fight it she'll try to get those taken down. That's about as fucked as she can get if it goes to court or something and that clip comes up.
>>79950524Chimkin...
>>79950640
>>79950670NIJISANJI GOLD TODAY BABY
>>79950577if only USA and JP didn't sign a treaty on copyright laws oh wait they did it 40 years ago
>>79950658I hope its Akizone
>>79950658
Uh Oh!
>>79950308I doubt it. These drama tubers have no integrity. They aren't going to touch this one since they are part of the same twitch orbiter cult.
>>79950693This reminded me how Holos need to get perms to use specific fonts.
>>79950266Price comes from value. If some random indie wants to use it, in their case it has low value. If you build up that value like the retard Filian has done and THEN try to buy it, you have to pay more.
>>79950569When do the train lolis get a Nendo?
Average Niji sister
>>79950149GSC WHERE ARE PROMISE NENDOS? Stop wasting time with western scammers.
>>79950731False has reported on twitch drama beforeHeck he's done entire episodes on them before, it just looks like he only focuses on nijisanji because they are low hanging fruit
>>79950752Can't sue if we have your signature saying it's fine
>>79950715genius
>>79950670Why is Vox solo debuting 3D?
It's a shame how few lewds AZKi actually has.
>>79950691>copyright shouldn't last longer than one month
>>79950149Will asmongold react to this drama? He's Mythic leader, right? Or OTK?
>>79950658Rurudo.
>>79950752Most companies need to, actually, not just holos. We just don't hear about it unless you work in a corporate environment
>>79950655>threads
>>79950682Did Nerissa already do the collab with her? I wonder if this will fuck with it if not.
>>79950658Lemon Mito, the master of kemomimi girls.
>>79950782Isn't the panel with yagoo tomorrow?
>>79950693Just saying, why not make some Disney toys, games, movies without a license and just pay later if the "punishment" is just a cut of the proceeds. Depending on your expenses, it can still be a net win
>>79950718>16h agoWow you guys are slow as fuck
>>79950625i think hes EST so he doesnt make it to every jelly stream
>>79950658AsanagiImagine all the meat flopping around when she flips
>>79950764Are there even BA Nendos? I feel like Hina would get one first or that wolf girl who's on the app icon.
>>79950801The rest of Luxiem will be announced afterwards. Expect one group collab per announcement. nijiEN could easily win this month.
>>79950782>People asking for Promise nendos and figures>GSC does nothing>GSC instead works with low effort twitch whore>This happensServes GSC right
>>79950670Why the hell are male vtubers so...chuuni?
>>79950257Retardchama guess who they get to sue for damages
>>79950718>bitch tried to invoke the Atlantean deep magic
>>79950892Good. Retards should hurry the fuck up>>79950899AZKi SEX
>>79950658Raora Panthera
>>79950892I'm not sad about this turn of events, I tell you what
>>79950862you mean the master of drawing fubuki (but slightly different each time)
>>79950892Why would GSC waste their time with shitters like Council? Nobody knows who any of them are outside of holoEN's tiny bubble.
>>79950884Four golds will win them the month.
>>79950892>Gsc It's on Cover, not GSC. Promise simply isn't worth making merch of compared to girls like Fuwamoco and Gura.
>>79950911because they are nerdy losers
>>79950691>maybe if I tack disney onto the end of my point people will agree with meKEK
>>79950883Me on the left.
>>79950938>>79950945You fags really need to be less obvious with your shitposting
>>79950929Justice saves the day
>>79950872>stealing from a more popular vtuberWhat has she not stolen?
>>79950691you stink of liggery
yeah council didn't do as good as they expected
>>79950929Her name really should have been RAWRa Pantera XD
>>79950857Hololive will get blacklisted by the indie industry if they try to pull out of a collab for such bullshit reasoning
>>79950883are you living under a rock? GSC already released a bunch of BA nendos and even announced incoming ones!
>>79950999I don't think she could pronounce that
>>79950965>Shitposting I mean, Fuwamoco are getting a Nendo, are they not? The fact that they're getting one before any Promise girls tells you exactly what Cover thinks.
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0>奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>symmetry *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=5ADaIvhhcCU>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>79950080>Legally Japanese have no rights outside of JapanFound the Filian legal advisor! Mate, copyright law (and intellectual property law in general) is one of the few things>thanks to Disney, in great part where international jurisdiction applies and all the artist has to do is to pick and choose the appropriate venue in the United States and file a suit there. He can also file the suit in Japan and get awarded a default judgement when Filian fails to show and use this result to block the production in any place, not only Japan It won’t come to that tho. Unless the artist is pants on head retard he’ll settle for a share of the money, it’s like finding 20 bucks in your jacket pocket
>>79951009>the indie industry
>>79951009>indie industryt'was a good one
>>79951009oh nyo. the horror.
>>79951009kek
>>79950867Well, first, why actively violate licenses for products and have to go through lawsuits and lawyer fees and cut away significant portions of your profits when you could just... NOT do that? Why would I use a font I know is in violation of the license I purchased it under when I could just use a different font that doesn't have that problem?And if you're saying that, well, it would make sense if you decide to violate a really BIG IP, a company like Disney can sue you right into the fucking dirt for well beyond even the original revenue of the product, but for damages well beyond that. In your theoretical example, Disney could claim damages not just from the sale of the product but damages directly to the integrity of their IP and brand(s) and copyright violations and I could find myself millions of dollars in the hole for it.In these cases, like this case with Filian, we're usually talking a small individual creator having a license violated by a larger corporation, not the reverse.
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>>79950649wait the retard said that on a public stream lmao
>>79951015I don't really keep up with BA news besides the lewds I see on Twitter.
>>79950649>There are clips of her talking about how she needs a new model for merch because this one is free to use.thats... really fucking bad
>>79951081her fucking face fucking blinded me fuck you
>>79951009>Indie industryRumao, Ui can fund the entire western indie "industry" by herself
If Cover hears about this they will probably cancel the collab because being reliant on artists and dealing with a lot of copyright matters they don't want any of their talents to be associated with someone that might get sued for copyright infringement.
>>79950862He’s just gonna pump out another FBK clone
>>79951009thanks for the chuckle
>>79951030https://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/summary_berne.htmlhere you go I suppose that it will need to be repeated several times in the next hours just include the summary in the copypasta
>>79951097It is until you realize the artist is in Japan and filian isn't.You can oh nooooo GSC can't work with her anymore because they're Japanese but she can work with the rest of the world, which last time I checked, is combined bigger than Japan
Sorry anon i'm posting Holoboy
Tempus nendo when?
>>79951127shut the fuck up, we don't need some schizo to snitch on Cover just because you hate Filian
>>79951156>>79951154here you go retard this isn't selen vs niji this is copyright bullshittery
>>79951156Why does this entire board have this bizarre viewpoint that laws no longer exist the second that you leave Japan?
>>79951009Oh god not the indies. Not the ever important indies.That'd be so much worse than pissing off all the artists that they rely on. Say it ain't so.
>>79951127They better cancel the collab. Doing a collab with an actual criminal probably isn't a good look.
We love ERB here
Ok, but non-shitpost answer, why did Fuwamoco get to jump the line in front of Promise for a Nendo? It can't be pure popularity, right?
>>79951049 >>79951052 >>79951057 >>79951060 >>79951081 >>79951116 >>79951142A large majority of Hololive viewers are also indie vtuber viewers. Be careful of what you're saying or else you will pay for this transgression
You guys are blowing this way outta proportion it's kinda funny
>>79950682there's no way she's this dumb, is there? her fans have been begging her to create a legally distinct variant of her model for months
>>79951198It's more that filian is rich and the artist isn't. That's all it ever really comes down to when deciding who the legal system will work for
>>79951241It's actually baffling at this point.
>>79951241They are Japanese
>>79951248
>>79951248Trying too hard anonchama
>>79951248cute larp go on
>>79951164
>>79951063btw that's my baby spunk she's spewing
do NOT report this to Cover until after the collab with Nerissa
>>79951261>Filian: 4th RICHER VTUBERS? ARE YOU GUYS STUPID?
>>79951198Because the Selen shit made retards come out of the woodwork.
I'm surprised I'm still here.
>>79951317
>>79950649Weird how there’s no proof because Twitch doesn’t archive VODS, checkmate and flips away
>>79951305
UPDATE>>79951012>>79951117>>79951165https://gallerypanda.com/pages/filianThe Lil Fil merch she's selling and has sold may ALSO be a legal issue in terms of sales perms that she's neglected to get. She now has two potential lawsuits on the table.
>>79951317Uh I already submitted my report
>>79951331You need to double down
>>79950267Post Mumei and her big moomers?I'm off to work.
>>79951248What are you going to do? Visit me in Somalia right now?
>>79950658Mizuryuu Kei, Butcha U or Tsukuru (this guy draw very good femboy doujin)
>>79951311I don't remember making this post
>>79951356
>>79951248Do you know what walled garden means?>>79951363lmao.
You guys are retard, Fillians manager went through this with a fine tooth comb>>79951236
>>79951412that's fine, as long as I remember flooding her womb
>>79951248delusional ligger
>>79951435It keeps getting worse kek
JELLY 1K DORYAAAAAAA
I just want that egal eagle grifter to hop on a quick stream and tell you all international copyright is notoriously weak so we can move on
>>79951435Ahh, to be young.
>>79951248>a large majorityHey Siri, pull up the numbers for indie vtubers
>>79951435damn can't argue with her mane-chan, she seems well informed
>>79951435What retard
>>79950354>Aqua>Mumei>Kanade>NeneYeah, we love retards.
>>79951458Or this one: what's going on?
Filian did nothing wrong. Piracy is based. Snitches get stiches.
>>79951435https://archive.is/41Cn1Don't think she'd be THAT retarded, but just in case.
>>79951435this is getting better by the minute
>>79951435AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHI'm fucking dying bro.
>>79951501They are estimated to be in the same number as the average ccv for NijiEN
>>79950693>Going back to the font example, I might not be able to claim that the use of my font was responsible for 100% of the profit of this particular product, but I can claim that at least a portion of the overall revenue made would constitute the damages of your violating my license and using it commercially.For anything over 2500 bucks Uncle Sam can enter the fray and take you to the cleaners as well>There are four essential elements to a charge of criminal copyright infringement. >In order to sustain a conviction under section 506(a), the government must demonstrate: (1) that a valid copyright; (2) was infringed by the defendant; (3) willfully; and (4) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain.https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1847-criminal-copyright-infringement-17-usc-506a-and-18-usc-2319Financial penalty IIRC is three times the value of the work / the revenue it would have generated plus damages assigned by the judge. Civil case usually gets tried in the same court meaning if you lose one you lost both. They usually don’t bother with small fry tho, this is legacy from an era of VHS pirates and phonorecord counterfeiters and, recently, modchippers
>>79951363https://komado.booth.pm/items/2258111>IsrealIt's named "Mint" too lmao
>>79951525Filian kayfabe of being a retard zoomer went too far.
>>79951363>Designed by: Creator:Filiankek
>>79951435Holy fucking based
>>79951561I disagree. It's getting better by the minute
Nothing will happen mark my words
I don't care about Fillian. I'm just going to continue to post AZKi lewds.
I am very tired holokeksgood niight
for those that missed it, apparently VSPOEN will get memberships (and possibly monetization) very soonyep, faster than Justice
>>79951248Walled Garden bitch. Why would Holochads mingle with indie plebeian scum?
>>79951255This was a nothin burger when Filian was just starting out. Now that she’s signed with Mythic, has her merch lines, licenses out the ip to Gamersups,Youtooz, and GSC, the chickens have come to roost.
>>79951435Also this >>79951117Turns out it was TWO artists.
Okay but why no holoid figures
Kronii can get so racist holy shit, must be her Asian heritage.
>>79951615goodnightchu~
>>79951615gn
>>79951587If the artist goes menhera she is fucking cooked.
>>79951124>>79951412AZKi is flat.
>>79951613Zeroguess AZKi's nipples
https://x.com/qaltted/status/1809135861419946230vtuber for this feel?
>>79951435
>>79951639ID too pure to buy merch
>>79951656I mean, she isn't, but this >>79951613 is closer to her size.
>>79951615Ayame is busty?
>Something yab worthy happens to one of more liked twitchers>Entire indie scene shows up and does everything it can to make it worse for them
>>79951666Festival
>>79950658I wish that skin was L2D. I still got it anyway though since it's godlike.
>>79951638
>>79951640https://youtu.be/ZREkudG51zcIt's not the first time
Well, you can't say that being in a corpo is a disadvantage now when one of the biggest indie vtubers get herself into an IP trouble like that. At least things are clear-cut with corpos.
This will become yet another nothing burger, just like every other yab this retarded thread hyped up
>>79951618I mean it is quite normal for small corpos to get it the first week or like 10 days
>>79951435Oh. Yea see, that's.......Man. Just....man.
>>79951708huh its almost as if being an indie means competing on the open market and they will cut the head of the top to get her place without hesitation
>>79951649>menheramore like if he has enough moneyand judging by this case being very clear cut and in his favor he can just pay his lawyers after he has won
>>79950177We don't even know if Mythic was involved with this. Being signed with them does not preclude pursuing commercials on tour own. They aren't typically involved with merch production they just secure deals between talents and sponsors.
>>79951363>>79951435Filian is DONE DONE
>>79951636See that's that beauty of it. Filian is wicked smart. When you owe the bank 100 woolongs, that's your problem. When you owe the bank 1 morbillion woolongs, that's the bank problem. Filian has a lot of companies tied up with her that will find it in their best interest to make this go away
>>79951587She really thought she owns it.
Reminder that HoloEN all kneeled before filian and the girls were all begging for their fans to vote for them in her big vtuber awards show
>>79951708This is the "crab bucket" in action
>>79951248>Large majorityYeah a whole 300 people lol
>>79951708Based.
Would be a shame if the holo collab got axed because of this
>>79950488I mean you can, if the person is willing to take the cash.
>>79951618I don't get what's the holdup for justice
>>79951435every tweet of this shit I've seen has people calling it outoh well lol
>>79951708That the indie scene. If she is gone, maybe her fans will watch them
Isn't Filian one of smarter indies that actually understood value of professionalism and paperwork?
>>79951818nah Cover isn't anal at all about copyright infringement surely they won't care
Wtf I thought indies didn't have to deal with perms bullshit...
DOOOOORYAAAAAAAhow tf does YT Music count plays when the topic version is still around 800k
>>79951747I think most people don't give a shit one way or the other, but why are you so invested in the nothing burger scenario?
>>79951708gotta trim the competition anon
>>79951850Lol no, indie are indies because they are afraid of paperwork
Dramatubers eating good today
Yet another example of why Cover's perms and legal autism, as frustrating as it can be, is as important as ever to protect it and the girls from future issues.Once you start doing business above a certain threshold, you can't just continue to act like you're some small casual internet streamer.
>>79951850>Isn't Filian one of smarter indies that actually understood value of professionalismlol
>>79951850That's why it's most likely the artist just forgot they already signed something with filian ages ago when she was first making merch
>>79951142CUTE FAUNA
>>79951793The award show that used AI art of Suisei?>Filian>Uses somebody elses model to make merch>Uses AI art during her award showEverything she does just reeks of laziness. No wonder she is primarily known as a low effort shorts spammer.
>>79951850Yeah, but that is like being the idiot in the retard group
>>79951639Lofi begging on Twitter for ID Nendo lol
>>79951818as a company that heavily relies on copyright, licenses, and IP it would be a really bad look to let Nerissa associate with Fillian
>>79951791naaa most likely filian thought she could get away with it
>>79951890Is she really indie? She work for Mythic
>>79951896Way to out yourself as a Kronii anti
>>79951793
>>79951708Indie scene is full of backstabbers and Filian was already on shaky grounds and only tolerated cause she's popular and let people leech off of her.
>>79951913
>>79951916>The award show that used AI art of Suisei?kek, I forgot about that
>>79951850>women>smart
>>79951708Link for the more larger ones preying on this?how about ja rule, what did he say?
>>79951942That's like saying VShojo is an actual corpo
>>79951708They're crabs and they love drama, what do you expect? I'd guess there's some combing archives right now trying to save as many incriminating clips as they can. At least as a Holo watcher who's been wondering where the next drama is coming from it gives me something to laugh at between streams.
>>79951873YouTube is retarded like that
>>79951959
>>79951948Kronii is right to call out Cover management for being really shit at it. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done period.
>>79951916You forgot the important part>Hired DN to make the script outline for her cause she doesn't know shit about vtubers.
>>79951793Isn't that the one Gura didn't even know about? I think only Mori was begging and she begs REDDIT, so it's not exactly unexpected.
>>79951435what a dumbass
>>79951873No one knows. Sleep Talking is off by 900K
>>79951999Green is a good colour.
>>79951248Kys ligger. We holochads doesn't watch fucking indies unless they are affiliated on some way with the walled garden like ui.
>>79951978Probably something funny like Jamaican me crazy!!
>>79951843>why such a killjoy
>>79951708Lot of people still hate her for the Floyd George joke, playing hogwarts, using ai, or collabing with Pippa
>>79952004>PeriodtYou should really change the way you type and samefag
>>79951913Fuck off, sapling, it's ASKi time.
>>79950993>salami that lownijisanji really are a bunch of incompetent hacks, what a waste
>>79951850Not at all, she's known as a very low attention span indie. She's "professional" only by indie standards, which means very little as you can see.
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>79952006I didn't know about that. That is really pathetic. I thought my opinion of Filian couldn't get any lower but here we are.
>>79952057Only the last thing should get her hate.
>>79952065There's always room for two sexy holo's
>>79952092Is risu inclining?
But doesn't she pay for clips?
>>79952039pffffft
>>79952028pretty sure this counts the MV views too (which is at 800k), but Go-Getters has no MV yet, which makes it weirdmaybe people who have it credited in their reuploads of the full version contribute
>>79952100Yes, you're right. I'm sorry
>>79952112
>>79951692She's not pettan, but that is still too big: https://youtu.be/-kGVeueQEnA
>>79951908ah yes, i'm sure that two separate artists signed away full commercial rights for anybody to make any merch they want of filian and lil fil for free and just for fun and totally forgot it after
>>79952116Holotori dance's MV isn't even on the same channel (and is at 7.1 million) but the topic version is only at 1 million. YT Music logs it at 1.2M
Thank fuck for the filian yab, it eclipsed the fact that fwmc lost to shiori on the advent horserace today.
>>79952109her morning show does well
>>79952138
>>79952178Its a hard life being chumbud prime
>>79952166is the YT Music/Topic version still on HoloEN channel or on Kiara's?
>>79952138Uh where are Gura's pants and Fauna's top!?
>>79952177Yeah but this isn't her morning show, it's her periodic lunchtime show
>>79952208The Topic one is on Kiara'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrMQyZfRz8
>>79952171https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1809046830359138380
>>79952171it's not good to lie, anon
>>79952097I didn't either. That's an unforgivable red line. She can rot.
>>79952217patata potato
>>79952210watch streams
>>79951880I wish AZKi had Noel-sized tits
>>79952207Hi Dudul. Please share your Gura lewds stash. We know it exists.
>>79952171Phasecuck-kun...
>>79952228hmmm, and so is the YT music oneso it seems like they do not associate different channel stuff, so that means that whatever counted for Mori wasn't from the reuploadsmaybe it counts short views as a "fraction" of a play?
>>79951435tbf fanmerch is in grey area in general but you don't have a say in it if there's no special contract for you specifically you retard flip
>>79952006Wtf she could have hire literally anyone and chose him?
>>79952343Retard
So what are the odds she doesn't have the cash to pay him?
>>79952389She is a woman.
>>79952389about tree fiddy
>>79952389Depends what he asks for. If I were him I'd ask for a high price but not so high she says fuck it and drops the model. And also royalties.
>>79952343retard
Hot new ad, this time for this funky videohttps://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM
>>79952389play victim and change her model
>>79952387>>79952455I know you eat pagpag too but that was addressed to Fillian you retards
>>79952389Would it be too much if he demands half of the profit?
>>79952465>Only at 4chang /vt/
Did this retard really just fan merch is a grey area.
>>79952494She’s already hated by the twitter mob that would appeal to. Maybe phasefags will rally around her cause she makes edgy jokes
>>79951782If Mythic is involved in the process with GSC, then they are partly responsible even if it's not in their contract with Fillian. If not, then it's down to Fillian.
What's going to happen after the 80000000th post?
>>79952454>>79952494>not so high she says fuck it and drops the model. And also royalties.She can't do that though. She's made money off of it already, she has to pay him one way or the other. If she changes after the fact, which she'd be stupid not to do but obviously she is stupid, he can ask for a cut in future merch as well. Either way he has a right to a huge chunk of change right now.>>79952502I'd say so. Most contracts don't ever go that high.
>>79952494Again, that doesn't do shit since she already sold some merch using that model.
why are Vtubers NOT a fad in the west
>>79952582everyone wins
>>79952496Why would you call Filian Filipino, that's random. Admit you're retarded
>>79952582gura graduates
>>79952582The final yab begins to unravel
>>7995258280000001st post, come on anon
>>79952582Mumei
>>79951783...and not just on twitch!
>>79952585She has to pay either way but less if she drops it right now. If she wants to keep using it she'll have to work out an arrangement to compensate the guy.
>>79952582We go back to 1
I have run out of AZKi now time for bed for reals this time
I bring you the funnies so you don't have to trudge the catalog.Here we have a Filianfag being retarded about copywrite law.You're welcome.
It's funny how Hololive's "supposed" enemies are dropping dead one by one
>>79952768This is going to be a fun week. Hope it doesn't end in a nothing burger and dramafags fuel the flames even more.
>>79952772Serves people like Filian right for being enemies of Hololive.
>>79952796it's missing all the tattoos
>>79952768GSC or the model artist should throw the book at her at this point.
>>79952772It's even funnier because it's by suicide.
>>79952768>if i steal someone else's property for long enough it will become legally mine eventually
>>79952768One of the worst things internet brings is that absolute retards like this get a platform to show off their absolute retardation.
>>79952851It’s the Nijisanji mentality anon
>>79952851actual commie behaviour
>>79952851Technically works for squatters kek
>>79952796Made for white cock
>>79952907wdym that's the best part, it's entertaining
>>79952851squatters rights is a thing
>>79952520Do you think every JJK fanmerch in AX were approved by Gege Akutami you ESL cretin?>>79952609Someone called her a Flip last thread, so I did. Like I care about Twitchuubas
>>79952851that specifically works in burgerland tho
Sex with Onyan
i thought she was the biggest twitch chuubawhy didn't she buy a new model?
>>79952768lmao, vtuber is heavily dependent on community contributionswould your community even want to create something for you if you could just steal it and make money for yourself? of course not
Can't any non-Holo corpo or indie at least stay competent for over 2 years? It's sad seeing Hololive being the only one not have career-ending fuckups
>>79952975NTA, but ESL calling another ESL is pretty funny.
>>79952768From the same generation of retards which is being gaslit into believing that if someone enters your house and manages to stay there for a week you can’t forcibly evict them and has to go to court AND compensate them Then politicians candidate for public positions (like district attorney or mayor), get voted by this exact type of retard and make it law
>>79952994probably laziness
>>79953048vshojo only grows stronger >:3
so the perms autism is actually good now?
>>79953088They're already dead.
>>79952796need a spade womb tattoo
>>79951618wow what an achievement. Vspokeks deserve a pat on the back and a cookie.
>>79953125Why are euros suck cucks?
>>79952650Boobs too small.Ass way too small.
>>79953091As annoying as it can be sometimes, yes, it is a good thing.
>>79953091>nowIt’s more of a >father of two finds out why “gun safes” are a thing after 5 years old son kills 3 years old daughter with his pistol situation
>>79953048Anon, they are all women. They can't even go a week without a WOMAN MOMENT. That's why they need strong and restricting patriarchal management structures to keep them in check.
>>79951708
>>79953048anon... hololive is made up of these retards
>>79953114
>>79950649wait, how does neuro-sama do merch then? Did Filian not change hers up enough? Or is it just the default model with some changes?
>vshojo gets multiple new figures from GSC including a new special Ironmouse PuP and a Zen nendo>holoEN only gets a shitty re-release of the shark's PuPWhat went wrong?
Kronii is really into this game, huh?
>>79952851this is pretty much true for trademarks, which is why companies are encouraged to protect their ownership even if it appears petty (like the entire perms thing Cover is struggling with)
>>79953114The Vshojo booth says otherwise, having matched the same attendance as the Holo booth
>>79950164who?
>>79953210Neuro got a whole new model before merch dropped
>>79950164the absolute state
>>79953198And management makes sure they don’t act up too much.>Kiara talked about watching the Barbie movie recently on her twitter space. Won’t discuss it because it touches on political subjects.
>>79953222Uh ohthat's so weird, this has never happened to a last minute announcement by Mythic before ToT did you get ok-sign/confirmation to mane-san before stealing a model?
>>79950164>EN>It's all in JapaneseGrim
The JP fan are arriving at LA
ONE LAST PASSPORT COMRADE
>Now they're seething about holo and trying to prop up vshojoIt took them longer than I'd expected.
>>79953243>having matched the same attendance as the Holo boothyou counted all of the attendees?
Friend of Filian>Hololive>Unicorn>right wing>CGDCT>FlipEnemy of Filian>Unity>left wing>Twitter mob>NA audience
>>79953243Retard, Vshojo's was at least twice as many as Holo.
>>79953138that's a burger thing tho
How are the liggers handling it? Do they like or hate her anyway?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJI-S968PEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJI-S968PEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJI-S968PE
>>79953282>Controlling holollyWho
>>79952851>He doesn't know about Adverse possession
>>79953231It’s not. “Genericizing” a trademark is the epitome of “suffering from success”, like copy machines being called “xerox machines” and vacuums being called “hoovers” and yes, if the company doesn’t fight it they risk losing their exclusive use of the name but it has nothing to do with anything other than these extreme examples, people confusing the brand name with the entire class of products. It could have happened with Hololive tho, in 2021 a Russian vtuber had to put a disclaimer with something like>I’m a vtuber, not Hololive>Hololive is their own thing, not every girl vtuber is a “Hololive”
Damn, what mindbroke these holoan today?
>>79952875Disgusting
>>79953346newfag
>>79953230She likes having power and control
>>79953091two extreme sides. have fun with your zatsu mc number 4569
>>79953343They don't think filian is to blame.
>>79953346you can't be this new
>>79952993Do you think you will ever get custom swimsuits again, or at least ones unique to each branch?
>>79953337holoENshitters....
>>79953393She used to have Power in HoloEN caste. Then Magni and Vesper happen, even management knows her ability to sell went underway
>>79953359This is why Adobe fights hard to tell people that the correct term is “image manipulation” instead of photoshopping because if it becomes a widely accepted general term they lose the name. A good example is dumpster, that used to be a brand name.
>creatorlmao
>>79953243That's crazy. So when are they hosting their own Vshojo concert or expo or something?
So what group is shitting up the thread right now, mythic interns?
>>79953475“Thermos” comes to mind too, it’s also a brand name but they lost that one because now it’s the name of that class of products
>>79953433I really dont get why we wont get it through some 2D summer art, but hey cover are cheap fucks that like slapping default.png on shit and sell it as merch
>>79951618You want to know why Justice monetization was delayed? Because ERB kept spamming Unarchived Karaoke and couldn't reach the minimum watch time.
>>79953397I do thanks.Have fun in paying a jap because you stole his model.
>>79953505SEA
>>79953480Filian should get sued for this.
All VT mamas have expressed their opinions on their respective Nendroids but Zen's? why?
>>79953475Not quite the same, but it is related in terms of trademark, and in this case it's called Genericization.
>>79953243Are you blind or coping?
>>79953282What for?
>>79953305https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1808904717793399251This isn't the first time she's talked about horses....uh, does Iofi actually have the hots for them?
people have been warning Filian about the free model for a very long time but she's always been stubborn about it, now the time to face the consequences has arrived and she'll pretend that she didn't know she couldn't do that.woman are so fucking retarded.
>>79953519>couldn't reach the minimum watch time.They reach that through their debut retardIf I had to guess it is because she does so much unarchived shit it triggers youtubes systems because they think she has something to hide
>>79953480Is this just sheer ignorant stupidity or absurd levels of arrogance?
>>79953505holofags because they got bodied by vshojo at AX>no figure announcements>holobooth was a massive failure>holomeet flopped
>>79953505SEA and NijiniggersJust the usual
>>79953419Indies in for a rude awakening I guess
>>79953553>Regloss, HoloID and smallcorpofags shilling in my sacred numbers
>>79952851Someone post that guy saying that nijisanji and china don't need to care about copyright
>>79953580Isn't YouTube requirement is multiple stream/videos not just a single one
>>79950534wdym
Good or bad?
>>79953586>>79953277
>>79953553She literally linked the cover of a doujin before in which she get's fucked by a horse
>>79953627No, the hard requirements are only 4k watch time and 1k subs.
>>79953627it is at least 3 videos, 4k hours watch time total, and like 500/1000 subs
>>79953601I replied to a baiting shitpost with a shitppst in turn. That's all /pol/-aligned dramafags deserve.At least I hope Iofi isn't into horses.
>>79953653>up and then diesOf course it's bad.
so kobo can play mihomo games on bilibili but not on youtube?
>>79953505EU on their lunch breaks
>>79953653>shit numbers followed by a raid into instant bleed outWhat do you think
The problem continues to spread
>>79953686Brown nipples...My dick...
>>799536271k subs + 4k watchtime over a year or 10million shorts views in over 90days
>>79953588Yeah, that makes sense.
>>79953419There’s no way to defend Filian since she’s done this twice to two separate artists lol
>>79953432>>79953379
>>79953666I hope Kobo never gets that horse, for Iofi's sake.
>>79953697Looks like it, even Iofi and Ollie can only do ZZZ pre release watchalong on B2
>>79953653that's good
>>79953718Someone should send an email to the creator saying he can earn alot from the lawsuit.
>>79953703>lunch break>it is 11 o'clock in EUland and 10 o'clock in bongland
>>79953653>6 fucking hours>took 3 hours for the raid to bleed outPretty good all things considered
>>79953715Three hours retard
>>79953723No one there is brown. Well, Aqua might have a gyaru tan if her real-life fashion sense is anything to go by.
>>79953653Good
>>79953718The rindo guy just discovered a gold mine.
>>79953653Extremely good, the prolonged drop means viewers had to go to sleep
>>79953715>Instant bleed out>3 hours and some of the raid is still retained
>>79953305Filian hangs out with too many literal whores for my taste. If anything she’s more beggar centric
>>79953653Perfectly fine, especially when you consider the time.
>>79953789dyslexicfag
>>79953755She already got two
>>79953778The numbers start going down immediately
>>79953718yab
>>79953837Where are the brown nips?
I really don't give a shit about some random ass twitchnig stealing some model desu
>>79953346The holo posing app for photos
https://x.com/DonieDarko3/status/1808796438429905122The sexy poll got containment break and twittards confused why Mori, ERB and Kronii being so low kek
>>79953850Tourists go away.
>>79953839mean for this>>79953747
>>79953850Yeah because it was fucking 2 AND A HALF HOURS PAST MIDNIGHT.
>>79953718and yet another company the artist can shake down for money.
SHE DID IT
good ending lets gooo!
>>79953653Considering the time of day and how long the raid took to bleed down, it's not the worst, but certainly not as stable as some of the other raids we've seen.
>>79953718
>>79953850Why are you retarded?
>>79953363how many times are you gonna ban evade tonight?
>>79953718its like a chained explosion
>>79953958she could have just asked
>>79953958But it’s paid dlc
>>79953944Did she put that faggot whorehey in a cell?
>>79953942Why are Fubuki's boobs so big?
>>79953833She hangs out with DN too
>>79953718Moments like these are why I slowly came to appreciate the perms autism
If Gura can get an MLB team to promote, then Mousey can easily get something like an NFL team, right?
So far the tally for Filian's Bizarre Adventure is>TWO artists work profited from illegally>Gamersupps merch using that IP>A video game using that IP>A Nendo using that IP>Numerous bits of self published merch using both IPs>Illegally granting perms for fans to also use that IP for profitAnd climbing as more is unearthed.
The first Kronii solo stream I've watched in a long time was actually a pretty good time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDu9077oTk0
>>79954023Nubuki is a titmonster. Almost Nerissa-tier.
>>79954068yeah that was good
>>79954007It's true in this case and she probably would get the go ahead with a small cut for the artist.
>>79953958Wait it gets even better. It's not the same model.
>>79954088JOP and Taiwanese clips of EN are the only clips I watch and comments i care about
>>79953942I would ravage that Ayame in a heartbeat
>>79953551>He doesn’t know
>>79954068every time she stray from obscure indie game #1239 is always a good time
>>79954063who's the second artist?
>>79954049Really? Now I hate her.
>>79954131>>79954005>>79953957*forgot cross threading
>>79954049Really?
>>79953551They want to eat Gura noodles.
>>79954152https://booth.pm/en/items/2258111
Kronii is gone now. What? That's the first time I've said that in a long time.
>>79953553Iofi is a horse girl
>>79954138when you click on one TW channel and the algo start to serve you dozens, those are the only clip I check nowadays
>>79953541Because he’s JP like Jingo I guess
>>79954150Papers Please IS a generic indie game, it just got lucky because it came out before the indie game boom
>>79950649You going to post any of them?
>>79954185pay this man
>>79954194Now you go the fuck to sleep
which holo for this feel?https://x.com/treetophelper/status/1759785856657961456/photo/1
