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Bug Thread Edition

>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

Numbers for 7/3:
1: https://twitch.tv/filian (6,669)
2: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (5,341)
3: https://twitch.tv/vei (4,493)
4: https://twitch.tv/anny (3,151)
5: https://twitch.tv/OniGiri (2,708) *Tie
5: https://twitch.tv/bao (2,684) *Tie
7: https://twitch.tv/chibidoki (2,509)
8: https://twitch.tv/camila (2,224)
9: https://twitch.tv/HalO_Sweety (2,056)
10: https://twitch.tv/nyanners (2,018)

Non-English:
1: https://twitch.tv/akamikarubi (6,326) *Japanese
2: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (3,489) *Chinese
3: https://twitch.tv/momomi5871 (2,836) *Japanese

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
A corpo that doesn't own talents IPs and has, at most, a single member with greater than 1000 CCV is still allowed to be discussed here until it has surpassed this threshold.

>/lig/ Numbers
https://lignumbers.neocities.org/

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

>/lig/ VOD Archive
https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig

>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays
July 4th - Dokibird
July 8th - Lumituber & Marimari_en
July 20th - Callie Calico
July 23rd - Fallenshadow
July 24th - Yuniiho & Shxtou

>OC material for the OP
https://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw

>Ducks
https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

>Thread Music
https://youtu.be/CJMtPDFhS7w

Other useful threads:
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>>>/vt//swarm/

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bepper wins
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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
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COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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>shondo bread maker is gone
/lig/ can finally heal
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Love my wolf wife
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I Love Lucy
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>>79957921
pretty sure these hours are when he sleeps anon
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well that was weird
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I'm having a menhera episode and I'm gonna make it your problem.
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wtf?
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>>79957964
yeah what r u going to do
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Happy Monday lig I blub my oshi very VERY much!
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I think vtubers should be animated with painted cels
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>>79958030
What
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>>79958030
My nose between her fat pookie thighs
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It looks like with all the drama going on I can finally post pookie without antis sperging out again.
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My oshi is happy that so many people came to her meet & greet and that makes me very happy
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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
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>>79958038
Gonna peepeepoopoo all over the thread, metaphorically speaking.
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>>79958097
Hoot
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WAHOO
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>>79957937
imagine how long Silver's tongue is like a wolf's. The things she can do with it when kissing you.
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>>79958097
theres drama?
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>>79958114
You ain't gonna do shit
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>>79958030
Oh she got that gatcha brain rot really bad. She's playing the game right before stream.
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finally frogfags are here and I dont have to read this con shit and fake legal analysis
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>>79958133
i shat my pants
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Somehow we got shondo lucy saru numi layna and fillian shit going on at the same time
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>>79958136
I'm making shit right now.
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>>79958115
lmao. you love to see it
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>>79958097
she doesn't even need to go to a con to get piped, she just rolls toward the other side of the bed
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>>79958131
>Silver shoving her tounge down your throat
hot
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>>79958162
qrd?
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jacked off to coqui
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>>79958171
she should get her wall fixed
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Saru got got by the gacha jew?
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Our Queen.
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>>79958172
I need AI anon to make sloppa with Silver showing her thick long tongue
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>>79958221
Nah, I don't think she's spent more than like $1k yet
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>>79958162
There's literally nothing going on with Saru. All she did for the past couple of months is play vidiya.
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>>79958221
She IS the gacha jewess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69EjtxzDAXg
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>>79958215
liar
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Binka
https://www.twitch.tv/cvnka
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Damn they hate her ass
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guys i want to like coqui
but she's so fucking stupid
i mean legit fucking stupid
like who the fuck told you any of what you know
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>>79958176
lucyfags and shondophrenics are mindbroken that their chuubas aren't actually shut-in hikkis like they dreamed about, but actual functioning adults.
layna is mia for a week.
filian's model artist came out saying he gave no permission for her merch.
numi hosts the vtuber party at her house, peer pressuring everyone to drink
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>There was the Bunny arc, the Baby Fever arc, the Numi Rrat arc, 2 filler arcs of her moving and dating several different streamers. There's a lot

Bunny arc going on three years ago and bunny deserved it. Layna held on to that for four yrs. She still had baby fever that's why oli and her get along, why is that drama? Numi rrat is ligcanon event, layna has never moved but wouldn't stfu about wanting to bc she's lonely like every vtuber, criken never did the puzzle and I did not see them announce ever being together, tomto is the first I've seen of official dating status
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>>79957877
Yeah, but the issue there is that she graduated, but she's still active on social media. I understand it's one of your creations, but it's like a ghost trying to talk while in the mortal realm.
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butt

https://www.twitch.tv/shirahiko
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>>79958318
>they
you posted that, that's your tweet
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>>79957854
>(embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
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>>79958331
what sucks about shondofags is that she took off like four months away from them and she's happier and healthier than she's been probably ever lol
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>>79958106
Same.
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>>79958375
the embeds give us power, dont say a word
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BUTTSLUT!
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>>79958375
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saruei is being based
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Were 3 minutes in and sarus already talking about loli porn, it's going to be a good day
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>>79958341
This is why hating layna is funny anon, because there isn't anything
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Saru should sit on my face.
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>>79958368
>>79958393
later losers
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>>79958292
i literally just tugged on my damn self until a gob came out while looking at pictures of coqui and listening to her talk
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>>79958368
>>79958393
I need to remove her dumb bandaid
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>>79958321
anon it's just kayfabe. Enjoy the show.
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>>79958385
yeah she got dicked down by her bf
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>>79958454
i cant it actually makes me angry to hear the things she says
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>>79958450
she would die
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>>79958371
Say hi to me in dm
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>>79958318
>79 views
>1 like
nigga you posting your own tweets here
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>>79958341
What's the WORST thing Layna has done because this sounds retarded
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>>79958478
She's not a big girl tho
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>saru: I only spent 500 on gacha it's not a lot
>chat: for some of us that's a lot
>saru: for a streamer that's not a lot
Based not pretending to be poor like other liggers
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>>79958215
sup RJ
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>>79958545
god she so fucking dumb
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>>79958368
Shira should dress better
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>>79958331
>aren't actually shut-in hikkis like they dreamed about, but actual functioning adults
lucy literally held multiple customer facing jobs before vtubing. it's pretty obvious she's normal.
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This is pure bliss
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>>79958550
RJ bar getting real low
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500$ for fucking gatcha slop? Jesus!
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>>79958388
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>>79958545
Wasting $500 on chink trash is not based what is wrong with you?
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>>79958341
>Numi rrat is ligcanon event
she unfollowed her after the tweet
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Still shocked that shondo wasn't a terminally ill menhera
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>>79958545
it's a complete waste of money regardless of how much you have.
She's so fucking retarded
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>>79958545
be sure to donate to fund her addiction
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>>79958450
it would be extremely painful
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>>79958545
Not as based as vei
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>>79958571
They see whatever they want to see, I guess. A witty weeb girlfriend that never leaves her house, and can't speak with (other) men
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Saru seething because the right won
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shontoes
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Next you're gonna tell me that Nyan has a boyfriend.
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>>79958545
Make sure to donate to poor streamers
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>>79958680
shes a lesbian by her own words, that cant be true
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>>79958680
Shut your whore mouth
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>>79958679
con whore
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>>79958331
shondos groomers and antis are mindbroken
everyone else is happy for her that she's chasing her dreams and making new friends
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>>79958680
Huh, the universal shift last night transported me to 2022.
Neat
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>>79958677
She literally don't have her own opinions about politics. You can safely disregard anything she says.
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>>79958663
I remember Lucy telling a story about when she worked at Dunkin Doughnuts and she complimented a guy's watch calling it cute and the guy became depressed because she said cute and asked her don't you think it's cool?
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>>79958589
I wish it was for once.
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>>79958677
just parroting shit she heard french youtubers say
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>>79958742
This, I mean look at her political opinions 3 years ago and now, it's completely different
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Stop talking you retarded bitch.
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https://x.com/RainhoeVT/status/1807406246892372030
her ass is huge imagine how much poop comes out of that thing
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I got cousins in France and you literally cant tell if its France or Sudan. Poor frogs.
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>>79958828
she's still obsessed with him
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>>79958815
I like her but she should never talk about politics. That's a losing battle either way.
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>>79958388
don't do it you have so much to live for like rote grutze and butternocken!
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>>79958815
>too much freedom is bad
yeah she's retarded alright
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I miss when sarus autism was focused on animations and games instead of international politics
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>>79958846
Ypu can thank retarded people like saruei for that
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Thanks for sending Yuni to us, she is getting the love she deserves.
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>>79958589
>>79958750
the rape of alice
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>do you accept tips for ER?
>saru: what is ER?
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>>79958510
Layna wants me to like her and I HATE that. I hope she falls down a flight of stairs.
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>>79959001
That's our politics expert.
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>>79958881
I'm not sure what I'm thinking about.
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>>79959001
She most likely thought it's a question about tipping money
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>>79958645
she's a big guy
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>>79959084
>>79959084
>>79959084
>>79959084
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>>79959127
heh. good one.
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Shira dresses so german kek
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Saru please finish your 2 fanarts of yourself before you make fanarts if zzz
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>>79959127
I see what you did there
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Reminder that Saru is allowed to vote.
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>anny watching saru play elden ring again
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>>79959057
You don't enter the top 1000 streamers without grinding for every last cent
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>>79959181
terrible human being and animal abuser
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I have just notified Centropolis Entertainment and Twitch Television about the severe copyright infringement I saw on Twitch streamer "coqui"s channel. There are talks already of a lawsuit.
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>>79959204
she's seriously addicted to playing and watching ER. Cute foxo
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>>79959205
What grind?
She's coasted through life. Bitch deserves nothing.
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I still think Lucy should go meet Shondo while they're both in the same city
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>>79959294
I mean I agree but I'm talking about her streaming career specifically
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>>79959294
I can taste the venom through the screen. Keep seething sister.
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>>79959378
Retard. How Am I wrong?
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Would you still love your oshi if her loose holes were still leaking cum days after her con hotel marathon gangbang?
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>>79959127
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>>79959443
i'm unloved and hated, my heart is filled with solid cement
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>>79959443
I'd think less of her but I wouldn't abandon her.
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>>79959443
Yes, how did you know that i was a firepup?
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>>79959414
She worked harder than you ever did, that's why she's a successful streamer and your bitching and moaning on 4chan dot org.
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>>79959461
why is there a microwave posting in /lig/?
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>>79959443
yeah mine
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demonites are the biggest cucks on /lig/
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>>79959532
mmmmmm
https://youtu.be/TovKuX119O0
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Liggers that make 7 figs? It's hard to relate to poors
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>>79959443
only if i was invited to join in. otherwise no.
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>>79959516
I can taste the venom from the screen. She will never fuck you, brothersister.
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The BGM along with how echoy the room is makes it sound like shira is in a cathedral or something kek
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>>79959443
Mari Mari fans...
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>>79959516
>Highschool dropout who got to fuck around drawing for basically her entire 20s
Damn why didn't I just drop out when I was 17 or whatever
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Was this the last boss saru got to during the subathon? I have fond memories of her fighting this one for hours at 4am
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>>79959654
Why won't you become a streamer then?
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>>79959673
I remember it too but I can't remember if she fought Rykard in her subathon or not. Either way she's about caught up to where she got to before, everything else now should be a new experience
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streaming as my soul source of income would be easy
but streaming AND holding down a normal job? fucking hellish, i can barely even cook food after i get off work
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>>79959584
only 7 figs? surely you would become malnurished if all you ever eat are figs
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>>79959654
If that's what you think privilege is, then you can call me Jeff Bezos.
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>>79959729
I do
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>>79959754
I don't think she did, I don't rememeber ever seeing that boss
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>>79959781
Yeah mother fucker being able to drop out without worrying about your adult life is privilege
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>>79959770
i wish i had a soul source of income
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>>79959818
shut up homo i am tired
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pookie soles
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>>79959584
Shylily.
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look at these idots arguing about speling hahahahha
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>>79959584
every ligger that has 2k+ viewers + merch + sponsors makes that
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>>79959908
Even Olivia? She still has a day job.
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>>79959836
hey, i was serious, my soul balance has been going down
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>>79959817
You don't know shit about her life. Stop being a jealous little bitch and work on improving your own.
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>>79959945
she lives in cali, seven figures is the bare minimum to live there. she needs the day job.
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>>79959957
i will kill you with a fork
>>79959895
A RUSTY FORK
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>>79959584
7 figurines seems a bit much
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>>79959561
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>>79959945
An IT admin doesn't make that much.
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>>79959962
anon it is a well known fact that she dropped out of highschool and barely worked any kind of "normal work"
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>>79960068
Bet she sucked dick for money before vtubing
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>>79959908
lol
lmao
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i love whores
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>>79960068
And I don't remember denying it. Doesn't mean her life was all sunshine and baguettes.
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>>79960125
yeah mine
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>>79960125
not impossible
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I've never owned a figurine in my life, but aren't nendroids basically just funkopops? why is everyone so hyped about them when funkopops are almost universally hated?
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>>79960199
Kek
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>>79960257
Fuck off bat
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>>79959978
There weren't even any vtubers making 6 figures in 2021 let alone 7 figures, lay off the crack
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>>79960041
IT is actually pretty well paid if you aren't a lazy fuck/retard, easily six figure salary in LA
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>>79960199
>Drop out of school to pursue your own interests
>She had it really hard, putain!!!
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>>79960257
I'll cum in your ears bat.
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>>79960003
pink cat pawg...
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the flatter the chuuba the worse the rape
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not much on at these hours is there
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>>79960257
>thing
>thing, japan
Unironically
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>>79960128
>lil bro fell for the "guyise im so poor" propaganda
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>>79960278
>>79960304
did I miss something? was there a bat discord screenshot about this topic?
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>>79960306
I missed the ass shot that was posted last night...
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>>79960327
i wish there was an american chuuba who was on at 3-10ish am
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>>79960327
will you ever stop bitching about this
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Wouldn’t it be funny if rikku actually made her comfy boxer and rikku did a photoshoot to sponsor them but it her only in those boxer and nothing else
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"It is better to cum in the sink, than to sink in the cum"

-Filian
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>>79960299
Keep crying sister.
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>>79960342
There's a batcord screenshot for every topic
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>>79960327
i usually watch fleshies at this hour. sometimes someone like saru muted on the side.
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>>79960331
Maybe if you're fucking blind
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>>79960387
if she gets that figuring released she'll definitely end up sinking in cum
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>>79960327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOky6eDPyg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyaoJHu7R6c
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>>79960359
i will stop once a good ligger takes up this timeslot
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>>79960397
>She had it really hard, putain!!!
>N-no, you're the faker!!!
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>>79960340
>2k+ ccv
hardly any streamers in that range, let alone vtubers are making seven figures, the money just isn't there for what low 4view ccv?
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>>79960296
WRONG! Check the leak list! I won't spoonfeed you sorry
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>>79960413
Fucking weeb
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>>79960354
american chuubers are dogshit
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>>79960327
Pink thing has been streaming in these hours as of late.
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>>79960465
>hardly any streamers in that range
plety are
not my fault you only watch 3views
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I find the "3views are millionaires" schizo endearing, he's cute
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>>79960519
ok monkey lol
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I watched her a bunch before v tubing. i mean a lot. No one watched her for the mediocre drawings. it was all the lewd stuff. you had guys sending her jewlery and cash on a regualr basis. One of if not the biggest reason she started v tubing was to stop with the body comments
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>>79960525
oh you're SEA lmao
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>>79960553
Like what kind of lewd stuff was it? Just jokes or outright harassment?
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>>79960526
show me post that claims 3views are rich
we're talking about 4views
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I'm glad Layna finally realized that she's just not cut out for this career
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>>79960496
You have 0 taste if you think this is aesthetic by any metric. It has nothing to do with anime. Even a normal western figure would be preferable
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>>79959204
She literally said on her stream that’s all she’s been interested in lately.
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>>79960705
Pretty much what she does now, except with a webcam. she went on a whole rant telling the guy to stop sending her money and stuff. sadly she has had her life handed to her. She does not do her own animations, the recycled moans, vast majority of drawings you see on her channels she outsources. i like her and like watching her, but to compare to say she "worked" for any thing she has is an absolute, bold faced lie. she is no different then an insta model or an of model who gets paid to exist because shes just enough attractive enough where ugly dudes think they have a chance.
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>>79960770
Layna is settling down with me. Now keep her name out of your filthy mouth.
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>>79960895
And you're just envious of her. Why don't you put some of that energy into building your own career instead?
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>>79960905
Thank you for removing Layna from the internet
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please dont say anything interesting for the next 30 minutes im about to eat an entire bag of chips
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>>79960920
She did not build a career. she was handed one. because of the body she was born in. My career is fine. sadly i only make 120k. Not no where near her, but the amount of time and work between us is night and day.
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I have an intense boner at work of imagining Squ cosplaying as Honkai's Sparkle and have segs while she's at it.
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Katie going to talk about the orgy she had with the girls
https://x.com/obkatiekat/status/1809202803090374907?s=46&t=Y1pF5l_bHi6RY-BpUB2D5g
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>>79960327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As5hqLixNCg
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>>79960920
i was staying out of this since i don't really care either way, but you'd have to be an idiot to not be a bit envious of someone getting handed everything because people think you're attractive. why are you even pointing that out like its not an obvious thing? an easy life is better than a hard one. more power to her, really.
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>>79960992
>My career is fine.
Well clearly it's not, with how envious you are. Put some more effort into your own life instead of being butthurt over others being superior to you, ok?

>>79961065
>you'd have to be an idiot to not be a bit envious
No. Not everyone is a sinful brown like you.
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I bet Olivia Monroe is actually a shut-in neet
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>>79960992
>sadly i only make 120k.
It ain't much, but I bet it's honest work
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>>79960895
Your statement reeks of jealousy. To say she did not work for anything is an out right lie. Sure she may have had some things easy but that does not detract from the hard work she puts in to her career. This has to be some kind of incel cope or something.
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>>79961146
A lot of people are just genuinely driven by malicious envy. They hate everyone who is better or better off than them, and they want them dragged down. If they can't be as well off as someone else, then that someone has to suffer.
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I bet Olivia Monroe is actually a slut-in feet
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>>79961107
Damn he's actually a racist who would have thought
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>>79961121
she would be much more relatable if she was. we can both pretend to be different people and figure out if we even like each other.
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>>79960992
Ah it's the classic "all attractive women are privileged" comment.
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god simps are so unbelievably retarded
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>>79960296
SEA-retard has no idea how much anyone who isn't a rubber or palm oil farmer makes. the leaks were for a little over a two year period from August 2019 to October 2021 and pretty much only counted the money from subs/bits/ads, so excluding any sponsors or external donations. Just from Vtubers I could recall from that time:

>Ironmouse: $668,920.56
>Apricot/Froot: $126,133.99
>Silvervale: $328,656.14
>Veibae: $490,622.56
>Zentreya: $464,334.09
>Nyanners: $434,790.17
>Saruei: $78,599.44
>Nihmune: $43,412.38
>Baoo: $50,393.39
>NimuVT (Español): $62,411.93

I struggle to see how 2k ccv in 2024 gets anyone seven figures a year
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onions streamers: 4 hour streams 3 times a week
Chad savii: 7 30 hour streams in the last week
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I make 0 dollars a year.
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Being jealous is very unattractive & makes people not want to be around you.
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>>79961279
>god simps
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>>79961182
I mean I'm a bit envious of Saru's success but I put those feelings in to improving myself. Wanting to see others be dragged down is loser mentality that she hates the most.
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>>79961289
Merch? Sponsorships outside of Twitch's bounty system?
That money there is not all.
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arguging with any gosling is retarded becasue they will always defend their oshi
you have to realise these people are too far gone
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>>79961141
>SEA
disregarded
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>>79960439
Oh fuck yeah new Steve videos
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Lucy getting rekt by bbc has put you all in a bad mood. Go outside, take awalk. Cool off.
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Layna is pregnant with twins (mine) she is on maternity until further notice.
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Grimmi's feet in my mouth
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>>79961295
Yea.
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>>79961107
>envious?
yes
>butthurt?
no. you clearly do comprehend what hard work is. She gets paid to functionally just exist. to compare her to what i do is like i said night and day. and im white and live in Florida so idk about that brown shit
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>>79961316
I hope she’s doing well
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>>79961289
i'm always impressed with how much zen has grinded it out from the early days to be one of the biggest vtuber earners consistently. i hate that tts shit, but she makes it work for her so damn well. and she regularly donates 5 to 10k during her charity streams. based.
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>>79961383
My oshis oshi
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>>79961346
I assume that he is. He wouldn't be so jealous of other people's money if he made $10k/month
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>>79961396
No I'm debating whether to draw, play dark and darker again or attempt to code nonsense again
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>>79961418
Lets goooooooooooooo!
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>>79961399
slap those cheeks for me
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>shira pays church taxes becasue she's too lazy to opt out
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>>79961448
AMEN
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damn I didnt know camila was so thiccc
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>>79961428
>no.
Yes, obviously.
>you clearly do comprehend what hard work is.
Work smart, not hard. Your "hard work" is worthless, no matter how much you want to think of it. Your personal self-valuation is meaningless. Every narcissist out there thinks they're the hottest shit in the world.
>to compare her to what i do is like i said night and day.
Yes, because her work is so much better, more valuable and important than what you do.
>and im white
Ah yes, the mysterious American Hispanic white who's more similar to African Americans in skin color than actual whites.
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>>79961516
love those big brown titties. wish she would show them off for real one day.
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>>79961516
she's obese. "thicc" implies she's somewhat human shaped and not an amorphous sack of lard.
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>>79961475
Man, I wish it was different. I can't even get myself to go get diagnosed.
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Thinking about Grimmi's vagina
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>>79961428
What you got going on here is a classic case of Duning-Kruger effect. You base your opinion only on what you see, that being attractive=easy life. But you don't know what's happening behind the scene and just assume it has to be as easy.
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>>79961399
One of those twins? Me.
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>>79961614
how was the clunge Seth, did you gob all over her
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The first few hundred posts were funny now it's getting old can you guys stop arguing
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>>79961289
where did you get these numbers from?
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>>79961289
I wonder who the top vtubers would be if there was another leak. I assume Mouse would still be #1 and I would guess Lily or Zen would be #2.
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>>79961672
from the leak that showed nl was number 101 on the entire site, as far as money goes, right? it was a few years ago now.
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>>79961506
Based and parish church roof fundpilled
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>saru finaly decided to make a cute outfit for chat
>cancels it because it wouldn't be done in time
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>>79961289
>so excluding any sponsors or external donations
you mean you're exlcuding the two main sources of income?
you mean those two sources that every streamer says are their main cash source?
damn bro
I totaly understand now how poor these girls are
I need to make a 1000 usd dono to each of them again
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>>79961614
You might even call it a gragina
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>>79961540
dont shift the goal post. Her work is more valuable obviously. she makes more. but the convo was about working harder. which she clearly does not. based on her own words with what she does with her time
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>>79961679
Sinder clears easily
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>>79961830
I'm glad you admit to being butthurt.
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>>79961830
Nigga you are replying to an actual racist it's time to stop
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I don't know about you, but I'm just gonna dance
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do you like autistic whores who speak scottish?
https://www.twitch.tv/bimten
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Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
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https://x.com/Kitanya_Is_Here/status/1809209998225842241

Yay yipee
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>>79961908
Actual racist on 4chan dot org? Who would have thought?
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>>79961934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwmKL5OL-Q
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>>79961976
I like to think notions of peoples inherited characteristics don't cloud my opinions
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Upcoming on the Youtubes

>Ebi: ZZZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr3m77h2kjw
>Spica: 3DIO Testing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmhtEAPC34
6h - Amiya: Buckojam 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hV_FMkhV0
6h - kyOresu: Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfZPhIhZ4eM

the buckojam will be fun
all the games are available, too
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>>79961908
You're right. i took his bait. Hard.
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>>79961582
Nothing will change if you don't get into therapy.
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you're taking watching anime girls play games too seriously
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>>79961932
via passionate lovemaking. I'll go first
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>>79961806
not exactly seeing streamers rolling in sponsors since interest rates went up, as for external donations that's highly variable between streamers, some tend to discourage it and others milk it like Olivia, I don't think anyone should be giving their money to these holes
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I'm watching shiras stream and can't understand a thing she's saying. It's basically a very weird ASMR stream
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>>79961996
i like gaga.
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>>79961799
Bro she's said she's planning a bunch for later this year. I only expect one of them to be made
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Layna should delete her youtube channel
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>>79961799
If you think saru is finishing any of the things she promises I have bad news for you
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>>79962166
Yeah but the summer one was going to be a cute colorful one
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>>79962085
I think so too. Trying to fix the issue myself is clearly just a waste of time. The issue is that even though I want to try it I still don't do it. I don't know how to describe this.
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>>79962211
One day she'll plug in her Playstation and we can play farcry 3
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>>79962212
Well there's always next year...
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>>79962085
therapy doesn't work, it's a scam. only about ~70% of all therapy patients see some kind of improvement, which could be something as little as feeling better because you got to talk to someone.
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i feel asleep watching coqmeat and woke up to some blue girl on the screen who was that
was that a dream I had
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>>79962210
You should kill yourself
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We didn't go hard enough on Layna, that's why this is happening. This is what happens when you don't hate on her.
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Has Saru fought Bayle yet?
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>>79962349
>only ~70%
???
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>>79962349
>70% is a scam
am i being baited? of course talking to someone helps, and sometimes people are alone enough to pay for it. i do think a lot of them would be better off with a hooker to talk to, though.
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>>79962346
Did she say anything like her other outfits won't be cute and colorful or are you doomposting before she even starts designing them
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>>79962349
>only about ~70% of all therapy patients see some kind of improvement
Crazy statement but also what is your alternative then?
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>>79962424
True. If I intend to kill myself, I can fully commit to hating on Layna until I die.
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>>79962476
She's not in the DLC yet
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Filian is cooked
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>>79962227
I have the same issue. Try breaking it down into steps. Choose a day in the week to research doctors, on recovery another day to narrow down or go through pricing and so on. If you fail, just set another day.
It helps to only have one goal for that day if you're finding yourself getting overwhelmed
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>>79962482
>>79962526
>>79962541
basically means anyone with deep-set and serious issues is not gonna get help from it. therapy helps you if you're already generally ok and just have these surface level issues.
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>>79962427
This is going to be funny when it comes out that she's dead
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>>79962581
i don't think shes even gone through the capital yet, has she? and she definitely doesn't know the shortcut.
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>>79962227
We don't ask for help, because no one taught us how to do it. If you ask for help, it's like the final nail in the coffin to admitting you are broken goods and don't have control of your own life
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>>79961996
Haha yaay!
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>>79962632
Anon you wont know if your issue is deep seated if you just stay in your room all day watching anime gorl
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>>79962531
I'm just a bit disappointed we won't see a new outfit for a while.
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>>79962227
you just haven't hit bottom yet
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>>79962647
If we just hated her more, she might still be with us...
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>>79962658
She's been through the capital and beat Morgott, now she's going around and doing a bit of side questing and exploring
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>>79962632
i don't know, man. i feel like you're painting with a big brush here, since therapy includes things like cbt and others, which basically train your brain. i do agree, though, that the more deep seated issues, as you say, need a combination of things.
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>>79962698
basic ass whore
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>>79962766
>Cock-and-Ball Torture
my kind of therapy
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>>79962766
Cock and ball torture is a form of therapy?
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>>79961506
same.
for me it's 0.43% /year so i don't care
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To quote saru, you don't need therapy, just put on the storm that is approching and it will do more than therapy ever will
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>>79962705
been in the system for over a decade now. everyone involved mostly just works for their own ego, for the idea that they're "helping" or "useful" or "worthy." nobody in the mental health field ever fucking admits they don't know what to do or that they can't help you. doctors have god complexes and only want to push pills, therapists are all kinds of fucked up and only got in the field to make sense of themselves, psychiatrists don't give a fuck about anything and psychologists see you not as a person but as an interesting case study.

>>79962766
cbt IS surface level stuff. anything that deals with your active cognition as the target is as surface level as you can get.
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Watching Vtubers is a sign of deterioting mental health.
I only found them appealing after my life went to shit. I used to think they were cringe as fuck
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smelly sweaty vtuber pussy
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https://files.catbox.moe/7emn1y.webm
liggers for this feel?
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>>79958044
i felt like this song fit this gif
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>>79962647
I'd piss on her grave if it was legal.
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>>79962631
I think this mostly is useful advice. My issue is that there is always like 20 things I also have to do and I'm constantly in alert/tunnel vision mode because I know I'm always forgetting about a near deadline. I remember looking up doctors somewhere between half a year and two weeks ago, but nothing came of it because I got distracted.
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>>79962896
>le form of escapism ia actually... a form of escapism
upvoted!
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>>79962393
someone answer this who was that
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>>79962581
I really wanna see her reaction to Bayle and Igon.
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>>79962942
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>>79962893
Yeah and I literally lost my mind and started talking to the vtubers on the screen like they were talking back, choose your own destiny
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>>79962670
Accept help and help others -> fulfilling life.
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>>79962893
look, man, if you're considering it surface level, then you're already too deep into to be considering it objectively. maybe you're right, but i've been in the system since i was 8 and i'm mid 30s now, and i don't think writing it all off as surface level is very healthy even for the sorts who just need someone to talk to.
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eating good today
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early morning /lig/ is always full of crybabies stfu with this gay therapy talk
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>>79963167
what the fuck is the thing on the left of bodega
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https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale

Wolf wife is live playing chained together with Mira!
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>>79963286
I want to be chained together with Silvervale
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>>79963263
No :)
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>>79963316
based and same
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>>79963263
It's all Layna's fault.
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>>79962698
obese
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>>79963140
and did you get better with therapy, or because you're currently being chemically lobotomized?

>>79963150
it absolutely is surface level. it's top-down therapy intended to work with the most surface level possible experience and functions in a person. it only works on problems that are on the surface, visible and manipulable just by thinking about them.
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>>79963270
echo gummies or something, isn't it? an alice in wonderland worm themed vtuber, i think. i've seen her a few times, she isn't bad.
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>>79963048
I honestly prefer coffee with milk. i think black coffee drinkers are not true liggers.
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>>79963365
Silver needs to do more JOI again.
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new

>>79963406
>>79963406
>>79963406
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>>79963378
Okay so you've said all of this but what is the better alternative according to you?
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>>79963456
>what is the better alternative according to you?
not pretending like therapy is some magic bullet that solves people's issues. stop telling people to "go to therapy" as if just by doing so you could somehow fix a person. try to face people as actual individuals instead of outright dehumanizing them and just saying "paid service good, get paid service"
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>>79963424
You didn't remove the vandalism
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>>79963529
NTA, but you're making a point which is good, but when talking about CBT in specific, it becomes bad. CBT is excellent in addressing a problem when you have accurately recognized the issue. Calling it surface level actually cheapens the good point you're making.
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>>79963529
and your solution is basically: "just get your shit together alone you weak motherfucker, I know and I'm strong"
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>>79958472
Coqui is the greatest mesugaki of our time.



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