Summer EditionPrevious Thread >>79975874 >Upcoming Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SsgFrvQntA>Previous Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVC7mqG-kY >Debuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kttt7pb5o6I>Youtube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@FUWAMOCOch/featured>Schedulehttps://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1807398581005160545 >Unarchived Content (twitter spaces, karaokes, etc)https://rentry.org/baunarchived>Songs https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf4O_VcbYo24EjtizbTZt_tTgwXaaK8N- (official playlist of all covers and songs they've released or starred in.) >Merchhttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/collections/all?open=talent&q=%22Talent_モココ・アビスガード%22 (Mococo)https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/collections/all?open=talent&q=%22Talent_フワワ・アビスガード%22 (Fuwawa) >/baubau/-related content (baubau sings, nsfw, VN/anime list, VTL team info)https://rentry.org/baucontent
>>79993593Well you're in luck because yeah for the most part anal will focus on Cecilia and only occasionally donate to Gigi
>>79993816>during the dog days of summer,>I will be there to brighten your day and warm your heart
I already miss them and we still have a few streams before the "break"...
>>79993919I'm actually happy because now I can return to my other hobbies
>>79993816BAU BAU
>>79994044my hobby is watching vtubers though
>>79994044since justice filled the hole in the Holo schedule I have been watching vtubers almost constantly and it's kind of killing me
>>79994374Well luckily for you there's a lot of those for you to check out and if they aren't enough because they aren't fuwamoco then there's always vods. You'll live
I'm not sure I'll be here waiting still when they come back after the week, if they do. It'll be their 3D debut weeks probably after this HW week so they'll have lighter schedules the rest of the summer...
>>79993915To be fair, the pledge never said anything about homework, recording voicepacks for money, or time and location limited events that 99% of their fans can't attend.
>>79994539>I'm not sure I'll be here waiting still when they come back after the week, if they do.what the fuck anon? even after watched hachiko?
>>79994539They said their 3D debuts will be before breaking dimensions, that means they could still happen in august and not this month
>>79994624It seems more likely that their 3D debuts will be before 1 year so they can use 3D for 1 year.
>>79994539MENHERA BYE BYE
>ceci: see you in 4 hours!oh I just realized yeah the collab is in 4 hours at 11
>>79994542>We're going to protect your smile in this one specific water park across the world>If you can't make it then it's a you problem, not on us
ready to shower her with the weekly allowance that would have gone to FUWAMOCO
>>79994764It'd be great if the NA branch office brings in NA collabs and Suisei and Pekora have exclusive merch and events happen on the East Coast or something and all the JP fans feel the pain for once.
>>79995052It's going to be all west coast events, who are you kidding? And JP megafans will still have an easier flight there than a lot of NA fans.
>>79995017You could've used the green or the yellow one to shitpost but you chose this whore, it's just funny kek
If Fuwawa was a man, Mococo would be pregnant. If Mococo was a man, Fuwawa would be pregnant.
>>79995052They do though? Suisei has her stuff at AniNYC last year. She is probably going to do a world tour soon. Pekora and her are also in the dodgers collab.
Do you love FUWAMOCO?
>>79995222i would be the baby in both cases (i love fuwawa btw)
>>79995255I idolize them.
>>79995238Suisei is also at New York again this year
why so many summer threads? if we hit 8 it is going to be endless 8
>>799952381 thing compared to the hundreds of things EN has done in Japan and Taiwan and SEA
horror game protagonists should have two flashlights to dual wield
I will reserve judgement until the holoEN office is up and running fully. If FUWAMOCO still exclusively choose JP and Taiwan events then over US ones then I'll know they no longer care about us as much. Right now they don't really have much choice since everything offered is in Asia outside AX and ANYC
>>79995689I dont have high hopes for that office. Its too little too late for a branch that has been around 4 years and makes a ton of money. It's not even up yet. I wouldnt be surprised if there arent US events just do to management incompetence.
what do you think they said about minecraft this morning? They were worried about not making any progress?
>>79995988Yes even though they've said before they want to do things their way and have fun
>>79995988It's probably the compass thing, they have mentioned it almost every minecraft stream but didn't make it. They even titled the next stream redstone and iron
>>79995988Justice made compasses and had full diamonds in hours of playing. FUWAMOCO are on stream 4 now with not much to show. They probably saw Ruffians posting about it and comparing and they felt bad.
Nap time
>No Kronii in the thumbnailKek
>>79996225#helpfwmc
>>79996225Tail spotted
Just saw no streams next week...
>>79996225It could be Kronii canceled last minute and CC didn't update her thumbnail. Or she accepted last minute and FWMC didn't update theirs. Kronii's kind of a shitty person when it comes to on time responsibilities.
>>79996268It's funnier this way
>>79996225Didn’t Kronii cancel days ago?
>>79996327>Kronii's kind of a shitty personYou got that right
>>79996339They're /here/ anyways they'll see it and change it.
>>79996427>>79996327Did she? I don't watch her
>>79996112Fuwawa almost fucking died trying to get a bucket of waterI think it's not fair to compare them to others and they should know it too
I'll miss them
>>79994044I have more time to rank up in Halo Infinite now.
>>79996465They're really lucky there isn't a sports fes or summer fes this year.
>>79996437That too.
>>79996465Even though they are bad at games, they do want ruffians to be proud of them. Sadly, minecraft is the kind of game where a chuuba should spam it to make progress. Their idea of once a week just doesn't cut it.
>>79996592They haven't done badly in their Minecraft events. They're just slow at learning new things.
>>79996112You are shitstirring but I could see them actually feeling bad seeing all the praise Ruffuans gave to Raora after her first MC stream
>>79996592I thought they did pretty well at sports fes and doroken?
>>79996327>Kronii>bad with timeKojima...
>>79996681They wanted us to be proud of them for canceling streams too. And they've played enough that they should have a grasp of the basics, they just have zero memory retention. They still don't even know how hunger works and children figure that out in the first 5 minutes.
>>79996823kinoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>79996841I saw multiple people explaining it too on the tag and chat, I think they are either retarded or playing it up a lot to make Ruffians feel good about helping them. Like a girlfriend that pretends to not know how to do something so that you'll spend more time with her
>My name is Mococœ>M>Uoohhh>C>Uoohhh>C>Uoohhh
I think I'm genuinely having more fun watching Raora and CC over Fuwamoco. There's so much less stress and anxiety and worrying about the future, I can just focus on the present instead...
Why are they so exceptionally bad at games?
>>79996929>I saw multiple people explaining it too on the tag and chatI will be real here. The game is just too complicated for them. It has alot of shit they have to keep track of. The perfect kind of game for them is 2hu and the rock game.
Fuwawa said this
>>79996963because there's two of them
>>79996823STOP BRINGING UP KRONII
>>79996929>Playing it upNo they're genuinely retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlMuQiMakK4
>>79997043Ryan didn't have to go this hard in a fucking skit, God damn.
>>79996963They are getting old
>>79996963Is not like they are hopeless. They are actually pretty decent at some. They just don't have the drive to improve at it.
>>79996929>playing it up a lotNo, anon for better or worse they are honest to god this fucking retarded and bad at games.
>>79997043Anal...
>>79996841>>79996929>>79997026They aren't going to learn playing it for 2 hour sessions twice a month.Also, staff had better get off their ass and get the EN server running again. They still haven't explained why it's down.
>>79997036Based
>>79997181Age isn’t really an excuse
>>79997026The perfect kind of game for them are straightforward games, like platformers, JRPGs, single screen games, racing games, etc...Like take for example, Catherine. It follows a simple game loop where you1. Do nightmare puzzle stage2. Talk with people at the bar3. Make story choice between Catherine or Katherine4. Repeat
>>79996225>all of their favorite EN girls + kohainice>no biboodang it
>>79997298I don't mind them becoming a korone and ignore minecraft. But minecraft is also good for group collabs, so I get why they feel they need to get better at it.
>>79996929can't teach old dogs new tricks
>>79996327no fwmc just hates her cause mococo got rejected to asking kronii out on a date that one time
>>79997036I still can't believe she actually said this. I mean I expected her to say "death to America, Japan will rise again" but don't you think her saying "nigger" was a bit too far, no?
>>79997036The most unrealistic part of this shitty “”game”” was me getting ESR
>>79997585It was so close to being fine. The art and music were cute, why did he make it in to a ruffian jerk off session? White day is supposed to be about giving back to them not masturbating into their face
>>79997431I didn't say they should drop Minecraft. I just think there's so many good games out there where they can steadily make progress each stream without it being a struggle for them or them needing to relearn a whole lot of shit after not playing for awhile.
>>79997585even more than separate beds?
>>79997298Please, Fatlus, give them full game perms already...
Today will be the first time I hear Elizabeth speak.I've avoided her completely just like every other EN homo until now.
>>79997672The ruffians morning was another stupid idea.
>>79997585That and he wrote them reading scripts for FWMC Morning
>>79997684Their biggest fault with schedules is being afraid to have the same game multiple times in a week. Juggling so many games one day a week or every other week just leaves too many in indefinite purgatory. They need to do more of what they did for MGS
>>79997725didn't ask
>>79997710Hololive doesn't have Catherine perms? But it's so fucking old already...
>>79997743I memoryholed that
>>79997743That was so much worse that I refuse to remember it as even existing.
>>79997803They rushed to complete MGS because of limited time perms. I honestly wish they do that more often. Is not like they can't complete games if they focus on it.
>>79997672The way I understood it was that it was supposed to be more of a "We love you FWMC, and this is how you positively affected us!" but obviously, it wasn't executed that well. Hell, FUWAMOCO's own VN streams fucking nailed this concept twice already.Even the Ruffian story submissions had that feeling, where it wasn't super clear what you were supposed to write since the prompt asked about like 50 questions, resulting in most of the stories understandably feeling like jumbled up word-autism.Really, this was a rare example of not enough cooks.
>>79997803Ah yea, now that you mention it, their MGS 1 and 2 playthroughs were pretty good examples of what I was talking about.
>>79997903I know but they should have that approach for more games. Even if perms aren't limited fads and causal fans attention is. No one is going to care to keep up with them for something like DKC2 or Minecraft when it's so erratically scheduled.
Does anyone have that amplified audio Fuwawa brap?
>>79997903We'll get that again when Cover gets OoT perms again. They say they'll do an endurance stream, but I highly doubt they'll last long enough to finish it, so it'll probably be on the schedule multiple times
>>79998048The what now?
>>79998048I planted a bug in their bathroom when I delivered their couch to them, but I'll never post my secret audio recordings from the last week
>>79998057They have OOT perms again. Of course FUWAMOCO will be too busy to play it until it expires again.
Them learning minecraft are by far my favorite streams of theirs currently. Not only do they both get to play, but they both get to express their individual personalities and creativity while wandering around and reacting to all the little details in the game with awe and wonder and a little fear like a small kid playing it for the first time back in 2011.I will never understand anyone who says they don't like these MC streams.
>>79998155I like it. I am just saying if they wana made faster progress, they should just stream MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT. But they are not the type to do that.
are likesprees over?
>>79998155I've been shilling MC for so long cause I fucking KNEW it would be kino. The fact that they barely know anything meant it was always guaranteed to be gold. I never predicted them having two separate streams, but that has made it infinitely better imo
>>79997843Not for the full game, they have to stop playing before the final stretch because of smoilers. As if I didn't buy this shit 3 times already. Just let me watch my oshis reacting to the endings, you greedy fucks.
After watching them for 11 months now, I have come to the conclusion that Fuwamoco as well as the vast majority of ruffians are genuinely retarded.You're free to disagree but that would just show which side you're on.
>>79998264It was OK if they actually could have committed to Minecraft on a set day consistently each week. But they couldn't even maintain that so they unlearn most of what they progress each time
>>79998269They've been trying to limit their social media usage, so yeah. They occasionally go through the tag and like some stuff, including the good morning and probably good night tweets, but it ain't every day.
>>79998269Only hidden
>>79998269Unironically yes. They are finally cutting back on their social media usage and improving their health and time management. Or at least recognize it was a big issue
The real question is: how can hololive get MGS perms, but not Castlevania perms?
>>79998421Konami wants to sell more shitty MGS remasters and remakes, but they're not releasing any Castlevania games now. That simple.
>>79998421>how can hololive get MGS permsBecause Mori sang Sneyking Sneyking Sneyking.
>>79998407It won't last. Once the hyper busy times are over, theyll go right back to being twitter addicts
>>79998407The big issue is working 20 hours a day. They should have enough free time to spend a few hours scrolling their cat videos or whatever without that eating into sleep time. They're fixing the wrong thing.
>>79998475If you choose to believe their words, they aren't even addicted to twitter. It was the cat videos that were killing me. I think they probably had issues scrolling through tiktok mindlessly.
>>79998057>We'll get that again when Cover gets OoT perms againOne of the EN homos was going to stream OoT yesterday because they had a frame up for it in holodex, but scrapped it last minute to do a July 4th stream instead.
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 332: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. For anki I've learned 5 new cards. For immersion I've watched one episode of an anime.FUWAMOCO love!BAU BAU!
>>79998048I have a timestamp from a stream back in January that no one seemed to notice, but I hate brapfags.
>>79998641>The last time ruffian asked me if I had known any Japanese last year and whether I could watch an anime and understand it now.Hmmmm, I did "know" some things just from watching anime and vtubers, but it was literally only stuff that all people that don't know any Japanese and have these hobbies know. I'm talking about stuff like: kawaii, baka etc. So, practically, almost nothing. If I really want to find something, let's at least say that I was used to hearing Japanese (but not understanding anything).Here's my last detailed report, on the day 300 >>77309709 I didn't actually write much about anime, more about watching streams, but it's similar. If it's basic stuff during, for example, some action scene, I can get most of it. But as soon as characters start having an actual conversation, I get down to about 35%. It's still tangible; even that little, with help of stuff that's happening on the screen, helps me to get the broad picture. Sometimes. The other times even that is not enough.I do watch every episode again, the second time, with English subtitles (as opposed to Japanese subs that I use for the first watching) so I can understand what happened. The next step would be to complete ditch English subs, but I'm not ready to take that step yet. Yeah, I know that I won't ever be truly "ready", and that at some point I should just do it. So, it's more so that I'm still lazy to commit that much, if you get what I mean.Also, thanks for the praises and good fishes, I appreciate them.
>>79998605(me)>killing meI mean killing them.
>>79998297that's fucking insanethere's already lots of videos of the endings online
>>79998605>that were killing mefuwawa...
>>79998269Watch the like counter tick up https://nitter.poast.org/fuwamoco_en
>>79998687Every single time I thought I heard a brap, it was always either the mic or just mouth sounds that mostly come from Fuwawa when she starts talking very excitedly.Their mics are really good and dont even pick up their tummy grumbles. Hell, it doesn't even manage to pick up their AC, which is always running.
They finally gave up on the 1 million dream. Took them long enough to see the reality. Next will be the solo live goal
They won't play nier automata any time soon but I really hope they don't end up watching the anime before playing
>>79999082Yeah, I noticed the AC too. I assumed it was some hyperspace superac that made no noise at all, but during the space you could hear it normally. Whatever they're using to noise cancel without destroying mic quality they need to share with the rest of the class because so many holos just turn it off always while streaming and deal with the heat because of the noise.
genuine question do you think they got lazier after moving to japan?
>>79999179Hell no. If anything, they tried doing too many things at once.
>>79999089They didn't give up on it, cause at the rate their going, they will easily reach it next year. They simply gave up on the 1 milly in 1 year thing, but really they did give up on that after they were forced to take sick leave.Sololive is something they can do if they take after Kari-chan and get a proper music sponsorship and start pumping out albums.
>>79999179It's only naturally, they achieved one of their biggest life goals and are financially set for life
>>79999179Lazier? They’re killing themselves
>>79999179the opposite, they took on way more than they could ever possibly handle and only stopped when they physically couldn't anymore.
>>79999265stop replying to obvious bait you fucking retard
>>79993796Are we going to be Summer Edition all summer? I didn't even remember that I had named it that a few threads ago. I was pretty tired
>>79998687Don't be selfish you self-hating brapfag. Normies don't timestamp that shit
>>79999269>It's only naturallyESL and shitposting, name a better pair.
>>79999318I was too lazy to think of another edition
>>79999179Based on everything I've seen, absolutely not. Anyone who destroys their own health to the point they're forced by managment to take sick time is retarded not lazy
>>79999314>you fucking retardreally really rude.
>>79999179They have been working themselves even more and it's obvious that it's taking a toll on them
Why aren't ruffians as based?https://x.com/JusagiChan/status/1809329206490255564
>>79999302The sad thing is they can't back out from the stuff they took on.
>>79999365Fair enough
>>79999179They took on a lot and got backed up on some of their work. If anything, it's busier than usual. Hoping after BD, it calms down a bit.
>>79999179No, but I think they didn't have very many friends back in the Northwest passage because they used to live in Japan and only went back there for a few years.Now they're back and able to hang out with whomever they want. I think that's one of the reasons they wanted to move back to Japan. Kost of their friends are there.
>>79999338I'm holding onto it for insurance, in case I ever need any of you brapfags to do something for me.
>>79999864I promise to not post Bae for a week if you share
>>79999749kill yourself phonefag
>>79999179No but things still got worse and I wish they'd never moved to Japan.
is unicorn overlord good
>>80000459Yeah
>>80000459Mechanically I feel like it's pretty fun setting up unit synergies and watching them play out. So far the story has been really boring though and I'm hoping it gets better. Overall it hasn't grabbed as much as Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni2v_-ACGxk
>>80000595kino
>>80000459It's pretty alright, I lost interest late into the elf region. Worth at least giving it a shot for sure.
>>79999265Honestly they could have reached 1 million even after their 3 month move, they were just floundering way too hard with a number of things and were avoiding the literal best way of gaining subs. It took them WAY too long to figure out vertical streams, and they only really understood this after they fucked themselves over by overworking themselves. At first their way of gaining lots of subs was to do buff/meme games, and do JP streams at smart times (solo's around big events which had a lot of JPniki eyesN and big JP collabs). All of those things worked, but after the battle plan stream/GW they clearly decided to flip flop right back to doing 0 JP streams outside of collabs and events(which their have been none so far), and this is cause they probably figured all their senpai are busy, and its better to do vertical streams instead of spamming JP solos, especially after that anti-JP wave in the comments section.So yeah, now they fianlly bit the bullet and decided to do vertical streams(like I always spammed in chat) but it's a bit too late. They honestly should should have started them up long long ago, especially if they're gonna continue to be nervous and insecure about doing JP solo streams.Seriously holy fuck shorts zoomers are insane and will sub to literally any channel that has a sub counter, its an actual cheat.
>>80000848Them gaining 7k subs with that SC reading stream was funny.
Mococo isn't sexy
>>79999179Nope they're working their asses off. Thry have so much drive I love them
I think we need more Fuwawas lewds
>>80001057
>>80000848>decided to do vertical streams(like I always spammed in chat) Fuck you, vertical streams are cancer and not the FUWAMOCO way.
>>80001197it was Miyuki's final wishes
>>80001197It is now. I single-handedly paved the FUWAMOCO way.
>>80000985Imagine if they did a zoomerslop vertical stream like FNAF kek
>>80001415Vertical streamFNAFAirhorn whenever someone subs
>>80001461unironic kino, I would keep posting zoomer slang in chat the whole time, or at least what I think zoomer slang is, like frfr ong no cap bussin
>>80001461Dont forget the random discord ping
>>80001461>AirhornI remember someone getting mad here when they used an airhorn back then. kek.
Hello ruffians!I really want to fuwawa to leg lock me while I impregnate her! Bau bau
>>79998912It'll never be like the FES weekend where their likes went up by like 2k in a single day
>>80001634good morning Mococo
>>80001634You're being honest with your feelings today, Moco-chan, what happened?
>>80001571It be like that
>>80001660and then stopped right at white day when they saw my marshmallows...
I think they're going to get diminishing returns from vertical streams, but I still enjoy them anyway so it's cool. I love when some confused greyname pops up asks a silly question and Fuwawa immediately starts giggling.
>>79996681admit you just want more minecraft I could say the same about runescape and we both be capping
>>80001671You'd understand too if you had to see her bare body 24/7 ruffian...
>>79999318I baked for the first time last week and I also used Summer Edition lmao
>>80001792Or when they insult chuubas and Moco-chan feels challenged, always kino.
>>80001852>HOEH? I AM NOT GARBAGE, I AM MOCOCOOOOO!
>>79996932nice but never take Fuwawa tits away from her again
>>80001792That's when they switch to only doing vertical streams in Japanese during jst primetime on the weekends.
>>80001415I always find their interactions with zoomers and greyfags to be funny. That FNAF stream was pretty interesting.
>>80001917"I'm not [insert literally anything]...[Long dramatic pause]I'm Mococo!"Is my absolute favorite bit and it never gets old.
>>80001989They can do that by spamming karaokes.
>>80002025That was really cool to watch, the tourist zoomers felt so appreciated by someone who welcomes backseating that they all behaved really well and just wanted to help, kek.The next day there were a bunch of greys for FWMC Morning too. It was really great.I'm always so proud of them when I see them reaching a wider audience and getting a positive reaction.
>>79997036love the art
>Sudden rush of posts praising vertical streams and grayname interactionsVery organic.
>>80002087Yeah you're actually right. Hopefully they get right on that soon
>>80002234medicine
>>80002234I've literally been shilling vertical streams for over half a year, anon. I've even done it in vhat every time they talked about this sort of thing.
oh the stream isn't for another 2 hours
>>80002414I'm sure you have sis.
>>80002112Didn't one grayfag/zoomer asked how much backseating is allowed and their response was as long as people are respectful to them and the ruffians, any help is welcome? I thought that was pretty cute.
>>80002337Yeah, my guess is they will spam karaokes the moment they are pretty much done with recordings.
>>80002461Have you thought about not being brown?
>>80002234>grayname interactionsWhy the fuck will people be mad at that??? Grayfags appreciate them cause FWMC try as much as possible to include them.
>>79999179they got busier so for someone new to hololive it may look that way
>>80002528Yeah, and they made sure to say "and you always are". They're great at fostering the environment they want.
>>80002758We have several people who have admitted to making grayname accounts just for interaction.
>>80002758This is adorable, holy shit. It's as if Mama Puppy made it to that TV show she sent letters to and excitedly told her parents about it.Goddamn, I love FUWAMOCO.
>>80002854Taking shitposter at face value. Yeah, sure.
>>80002854Do you honestly believe that shitposting kek? Anytime a JP account is read, someone here literally always says "I WAS READ" or "MY JP ALT WAS READ!"
>>79999461can you please fix the pink hair and make it blue?
>>80002854I'm sure we do have people here pathetic enough to do that, but most of it is just shitposting
>>80002966noeh
>>80002911Happens way too often, it's the cause of at least half of this thread's garbage. Remember the rape episode where one retard kept interpreting everything literally and replying to every single post for hours? Ruffians are incapable of not replying.
>>80003017>Remember the rape episodeYou mean from the school days watchalong?
>>80002414What a shame because vertical streams suck
>>80003142Nah they've all been good so far. Can you explain why they all "sucked" or are you just mad cause your phone is too small?
>>79999265>Music sponsorshipYou kidding me? They haven't released an orisong outside of LTST and none of their covers have great views. Their music is unpopular. The reason Mori got hers was because she and her music were popular at debut with both JP and EN viewers.
>>80003017enough about anan sending 18 orange superchats, let's move on
>>80002885Fat fuck ojisan was pretty stoked too.
>>80003235They suck because they look like shit, simple as. I'm not a phonefag.
>>80002957People post dead dogs, dogs that aren't theirs and pictures of dogs for doggy of the day, so yes I believe that they also make grayname alts just to get read.
>>80003257https://www.youtube.com/@TsunomakiWatame/videostwo sololives btw
>>80003289Buy a phone then, BRcuck. Simple as.
>>80003257NTA but I have no idea what that guy is thinking. They haven't even shown they can make music or perform on their own and he thinks they are going to have a music partnership/deal? Some ruffians have to be complete oblivious newfags wow
>>80003257>none of their covers have great views. Their music is unpopular.You don't need big numbers. AZKi and Sora numbers are on the lower side. The bigger issue is to be taken seriously as a music chuuba.
How do you think they'll perform in the collab tonight?
>>80003366>Sololive is something they can do if they turn into Kari-chan and get a proper music sponsorship and start pumping out musicWhat? You should probably reread who I replied to.
>>80003257>>80003388Why the fuck are you reading what I said as "they can 100% get a sponsorship!!!" I simply said if they go all in on music and manage to get a sponsorship(no guarantee) then yeah they can do it. This isn't controversial at all, if you think it is than you're just a retard fighting me for literally no reason at all.
>>80003461You don't need to be taken seriously as a "music chuuba" necessarily, like, say, Suisei. But an "idol chuuba", that's the most important part. It's your sponsors being certain you'll sell out your tickets and all of the slop you'll be pushing as merch too. Went to several concerts paying only the ticket fee, FWMC sololive? You can be sure I'll buy whatever they're selling too.Nobody takes Pekora seriously as "a music chuuba", but they take her fans' passion seriously.
>>80003544It will just be loud and rowdy. I am not too worried since mori, shiori and rissa are there.
>>80003377I have a phone and I don't like watching anything on it but you're gonna keep throwing nothing insults around so I don't care what you have to say anymore
>>80003593Good cause I don't care what you have to say anymore either KEK. Buy a phone and stop being poor.
>>80003257None of their music has great views because that autistic BR killed every single one in the algo by spamming his mental illness. Pic related, a sample from just ONE song.
>>80003626I don't even know what the hell that is.
what are you guys even doing lol
>>80003570can you give out money advice so I can effectively buy merch without fucking myself over with debt?
>>80003302>pictures of dogs for doggy of the dayHow dare they
>>80003694People are talking about FUWAMOCO too much, time to make it about men and brazil again.
>>80003570I am talking specifically about music sponsorship. Pekora doesn't have one, though she does have a sololive. And I don't think FWMC is likely to get one. Regardless, sololive is a crap shot anyway. Still, it is a nice aspiration to have and I fully support them chasing after it.
>>80003694Catching up on wrasslin to prepare for the PLE tomorrow. What about (you)
>>80003719I don't know, I couldn't afford it either a couple of years ago, I got some raises for some reason and now I can. Just get lucky LOL
>>80003570___Bae__ has spoken about wanting to do solo lives but being told by management she only only do it she if can reasonably be expected to tell out the venue. She tried to bargain with a series of underground idol scale shows but that was no dice afaik
>>80003561No one is capable of actually reading anything they reply to. The average anon will skim a post and post a seething reply completely missing the point of the post they were replying to kek It's happened to me many times
>>80003561And if I were born as a Japanese man I'd have a chance at marrying the. Trying hard and hoping doesn't get you a music deal so your hypothetical makes no sense because it's assuming they already skip all the hard part of getting a sololive.
>>80003626The one song he didn't spam, kaibutsu, actually has pretty decent views.
>>80003868>And if I were born as a Japanese man I'd have a chance at marrying theat marrying the what!? The WHAT???
https://x.com/onefancyperson/status/1809382241765867979whats fuwawa doing
>>80003868So why even reply if you're just going to seethe over an post I didnt even make?
>Large amount of fans spread around the world>Cover has statistics of how many foreigners apply for FES>Can extrapolate some info about % of fans willing to travel for something like a sololiveThe other Anon is right, it's all about sell-ability vut also their willingness to spend a bunch of money to help secure the venue, because that's a known thing too. So how as FuwaMoco do you sell to Cover that you can bring people to a show magically somehow? Pump up your JP viewer count?
>>80003825Well, it is Cover's IP at the end of the day. AZKi used to do concerts at tiny venues all the time before the 'vid, you don't see her doing them after it. They don't want their name associated with "a concert that needed to be this small", I suppose.But yeah, this shows that the important thing is having a bunch of nibbas willing to spend money, not being a music chuuba or whatever. And going by what that artist was saying about how hard it is to find FWMC merch in Japan and how it's 3x the price in second hand stores, I think they'll be fine.Still, when you even imply you think it's possible some sperg starts shitting the thread on cooldown because he always assumes people are saying it'll be effortless and something they'll do next year no proble, so worth saying, "fine" means a long term goal, not that it's happening right around the corner.
>>80003962her best
>>80003825>only do it she if can reasonably be expected to tell out the venueCan't you just have a guest or two to sell like double the tickets and fill the venue with ease?Okayu had a sololive and she invited Korone for 2 songs I think
>>80003868Kill yourself Gray, you pathetic cuck.
I do hope we get another orisong soon, and frankly I assume that at least one IS being worked on in some capacity. I know they take a lot of time and coordination.
>>80004059It's the importance of being noticed by the pig people. It's management telling FWMC "wow, the ruffians are really engaged, huh!" because they look at merch/voice pack hashtags and 90% of the EN posts come from ruffians. They're seeing behavior that's closer to their domestic audience, which gives them more confidence about predicting outcomes.If they always buy whatever slop we release, maybe we can go for more complex merch that absolutely could not afford to not sell out, that kind of stuff. Little steps.
>>80003825I always feel the solution will be to form units and try to host a joint live like sankisei and gokisei. Sure, it is not a sololive per say, but is a good stepping stone towards that.
>>80004360>anotherLTST isn't considered an orisong, it's an intro song
>>80003962cute
>>79995689Retard, they're obviously gonna have more jp events because they literally live there
>>80004063>>80004237I assume they have some kind of internal metric to be fair. They've got probably 40 talent that would want to do a solo live, and they can't do it for all of them. If I had to guess it's something like something like your average CCV needs to be some percentage of the venue's capacity
>>80004360Yeah, I think so too. Part of the reason it's taking this long I assume is because they want to be 100% involved, like what they mentioned about a hypothetical FWMC Visual Novel. Even if they're not doing any of the composing themselves, they're not gonna just hand it to a composer and say "do your best, I'll wait", like, say, Marine who trusted Yunomi 100% with Unison and even when she did give feedback he said "shut up, I know what I'm doing".And he did know, Unison is still my number one Hololive Song to this day, he even managed to capture her personality and audience interaction perfectly with the lyrics, it's incredible, but I doubt FWMC would be ok with that.
>>80004365I mean I personally would be into that, and it's less stress on each individual girl, but that's also kind of a slippery slope that eats into their big annual concerts
>>80004498I honestly prefer they leave it to the professionals.
>>79995689If you were a real ruffian you'd move to Japan
Has their ever been a "genlive" before? Like one full gen doing their own concert before?
>>80004553They care too much about what the song is expressing to do that. They're particular about their karaoke selection and make sure to say "please don't assume anything about us because of these ones ok?" during unarchived karaokes, they go on about lyrics every cover afterparty. I'm fully expecting them to write the lyrics themselves too. Unless they manage to grab someone they just idolize and would trust above themselves to compose. Like Moco-chan's birthday merch art, I doubt she had too much of a back and forth with that artist.
>>80004649https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeU2_BOwA8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRH29-R71T0
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>>80004795They should try to focus on doing an Advent concert in the future first
>>80004748I just hope they actually know what they are doing. It's one thing to want to do it all but it's another to be good at it. I'm fine and will cheer them on if they want to control everything but so far I haven't seen anything that demonstrates they have the talent for that and probably should leave everything to the professions and just be happy being a manufactured talent. They weren't good enough to make it on their own or in a group before so they should accept it and let cover carry them to higher heights. They might be too prideful to do that though
>>80004748You can't honestly believe them capable of writing and producing music, right? I 100% could see them asking for some changes, but you can't make a 'hit' if you don't listen to people who professionally produce this shit.
>>80004974To be fair, they let Patra did her thing with LTST. heh.
>>80004976Producing? No. Writing, as in lyrics? Absolutely 100% since they're massive life-long idolfags and are extremely passionate about music.
>>80005050Capable is not the same thing as willing.
>>80004974I don't mean they'll compose it themselves, they don't have that kind of skill, just that they'll want to supervise the process, rather than hand it to the composer and wait. The point is more that "this is probably part of why it's taking so long, they're busy and can't supervise it now". If they were more hands off, maybe it would be easier to keep it going alongside everything else.The rest of your post is just too spiteful and objectively wrong to be worth addressing, also one of those things that I can't prove you wrong without getting banned, despite you saying this being perfectly ok, so yeah.
>>80005015Yeah, but I also can see them wanting to 'prove' they can do it. Like the audio mixing they've mentioned a few times. They did seem to already realize that isn't reasonable though, luckily
>>80004649Does the gamers event count? Even though miosha died right before it
>>80005103They're willing.
>>80004976Writing music? No. Lyrics? Sure, why not? Other holos have done it with less experience than they have.
>>80004649>>80004795WE DONT TALK ABOUT THE 3RD GEN LIVE IN THIS HOUSE
>>80005133>Like the audio mixing they've mentioned a few timesThey already talked about how they gave up on this. lyics mean a LOT to them, so there's no world where they dont write their own for their orisong
>>80005133They seem happy to take advice. They asked miori for her harmony guides. I don't think they are stupid. They know certain things are beyond them and are willing to get professional help.
>>80005139I didn't look into it too much other than seeing some pictures on my xitter, but it looked like a pretty big thing, so I'd say it counts. Still needs to raise money, get venues, sponsors and all that shit.
>>80004384You know what? Fair. I kinda/sorta consider it one just because it's technically a song but not a cover, but it really doesn't feel like an actual complete piece as much as it is an extended jingle.>>80004553I'm willing to be that they'll be very informed/selective about who they work with. They're very mentally invested in that whole industry, and they have even more contacts/access now than they ever did before. The networking boost just from being in an established company is huge, and now they have a direct line to friends who have experience leveraging that into actual finished products. Lots to be optimistic about... in the long run. Someday. Eventually.I do hope they get a little deeper into the "release party" deal that a lot of the girls do. I always enjoy when Mori does them, or when Ina would go over individual details from her MVs. I feel like the streams after they'd drop covers could have gone a little deeper.
>>80005242Idols generally don't pen their orisongs. They usually have an album, and only one song will be penned by them to convey their heartfelt feelings.
They will have sololives.
>>80005402Waiting for a long time for entertainment sucks. I hate waiting.
>>80005410True if they're going all out with an album, not even enough time to work on all of them if they do this, but if they go song by song like most holos do, and get to an album after having pretty much half of it done, they could have a lot more than one song written by them.
>>80005421Yes, but separate from each other>monkey paw finger curls
>>80005410Yes, but they also talked about how lyrics are incredibly important to them
>>80005481Honestly, that's the main issue with virtual idols and idol activities. Traditionally, flesh idols do a lot of events when they first start out and you just grow along with them. Hololive is severely lacking in this experience.
>>80005402While I agree with you that they could have gone deeper, I also think that their after party streams are all among their best zatsu-style streams, and all of them were from before their more recent improvement in zatsudan. Like how they'll do a dedicated superchat reading stream and spend the first half an hour just talking by themselves without reading anything. So we'll see, maybe the skills will transfer to the next afterparties too.I quite liked them talking about their experience watching 4th fes together by themselves and dreaming of the future and contrasting it with watching 5th fes with Advent and the ruffians, and how much it meant to them.
>>80005632They've been in the industry for a very long time. Have they ever written a song before?
Time to powernap
>>80005709I like their watchalong parties for sololives. I wish we get more of those lol.
>>80005717No but they've talked about wanting to do it many times
>>80005717A few
>>80005717 a few but they weren't very good at all. I have hope they've improved because they'll need to have
Did ui-mama write loli-kamo?
>>80005868While just an english version, I like their version of the chorus for THAT one song more than the original. Flows better, which is VERY rare for translated lyrics.
>>80005787Well, they can wait. Let the professionals do their thing.
off topic central
>>80006070goo goooo goo gagagaggaaga blublblbuh bluuhhhh ehehehehehehe gagagagagaaaaaa
Also keep in mind that they're going up against some of the ESL-written abominations they give for example to IRyS, poor thing. If it was between amazing english lyrics and scuffed but from the heart, it could be a tough choice, but it's more likely between trash and scuffed, I'll take scuffed.
>>80006070this is the most on topic the thread has been in two weeks.
>>80006070What? We've been talking about them for the last 30 posts. About their music, their sololive, etc.
>>80006186Oh when IRyS was my oshi I remember being so mad at the fucking ESL garbage they gave her kek
>>80006186I still don't know wtf they were doing with IRyS...
>>80006295It's really sad. Shit model, solo debut, bad writing.
>>80006186>ESL-written abominationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_uB51ZuCy0I don't mind if it has sovl.
>>80005709I absolutely, positively love their more "relaxed" zatsu stuff and I'm glad they seem to be getting a tad more comfortable with it. I know it was pretty common to see ruffians here perplexed why they seemed super closed-off or uncomfortable with any sort of chatting streams early on.Maybe I'm weird, I think the spaces have been their absolute strongest content and that's mostly just small talk and listening to them clean their old apartment and heat up food.>>80006186Seeing the recap of how things went down with Project Hope on here had me genuinely mad for her. Just a very wrongheaded effort all-around. I didn't see it for what it was at the time, I just recall consistently being disappointed with the releases and not really grasping who was responsible and why (as in, not IRyS).>>80006205Don't jinx us, rufferan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlMuQiMakK4Mococo just moco beamed my apartment.
Do you think they're going to watch the dodgers game
>>80006410JP singing engrish is charming. EN singing engrish is cringe
>>80006295The same thing they tried with Azki, Sora, Suisei, and now Regloss. All of whom immediately skyrocketed to success once they joined Hololive proper and streamed. Except for Regloss but it will happen.
>>80006597based
>>80006459Funny thing is that there was some clear seething both inside Hololive and among fans over the fact that IRyS had her songs produced by the company. And I used to countar argue on this board that company-produced means company-driven, and you don't get a say, and that was a big deal, and you could see that in how the sentiment shifted.Not too long after you wouldn't see anyone talking about>SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VSINGER AND VTUBER, HUH? WHY DO THEY GET THEIR MUSIC PRODUCED BY THE COMPANY?because nobody wanted that trash. I'm sure Kiara is way happier with her DO U and Chimera than she would have been with all of IRyS' songs, but she was the one visibly seething over it the most.
>>80006459Oh you're not weird about the space thing. When I saw we were getting a swap, I was so pumped and Moco-chan didn't disappoint. It was like having my wife cuddle up with me on the couch when she was tired and a little worn out.
>>80006749I am pretty sure most people were willing to accept trading SC reading with a twitter space. And I say that as a paypig. heh.
>>80006749It felt a little bittersweet because of the situation. She should do another solo space during Fuzzy Week whenever it happens so I can focus only on giving her love instead of worrying about Fuwawa...
>>80006833as a paypig I'd be happy if they never read another superchat on stream again, unironically. Maybe exclusively for events and after parties but every stream and. backlogs, fuck no. I send it to support them I don't need every one read and I'm not autistic enough to send it as 10 yellows every stream
>>80006410https://x.com/midi_junki/status/1809103203960578547
>>80007048Then buy voice packs instead of giving money to Neal. I like superchat readings.
I like it when Fuwawa says "and for our next Stweam"
>>80007048Based, SC should just get replaced with regular zatsus. I want to hear what they have to say, not ruffians
>>80007102I can't send them messages with a voice pack. I do buy multiple of those too and give them away but at a point it doesn't feel like I'm supporting them besides just throwing money which is ok maybe
>>80007233my messages are more important than theirs
>>80006749I mostly use their streams as background accompaniment while I paint minis and stuff, so it's extremely complementary to that. It's also why I miss RnRs a lot, since that is PERFECT to have on in the background.>>80006739At least she still was able to do other karaoke streams and stuff and seems to have survived it relatively well. I never hated the old model, but I do think segregating her to be her own side-project was a supremely misguided effort.>>80007188I like it when Fuwawa says "well.... WUFFIANS."
Debating on whether or not to ruin this thread.
>>80007237Fair enough. I personally find the suggestion of only events and after parties to be the worst possible one, those are the most repetitive superchats, the regular stream ones lead to the best readings. But I guess you just don't enjoy that part of the stream, which is fair.
>>80007298what hurt your feelings this time
>>80007298Let’s do it
You only enjoy superchat readings because you just accepted that they’ll never do a zatsu that’s longer than an hour so you’ll take what you can get, even if it’s hearing the same names and messages repeated over and over to them ad nauseam. Or, you enjoy them BECAUSE you just like hearing your name and tired messages repeated over and over again.
>>80007298I'm bored of this boring idol talk, spice it up I'm drinking with nothing to do before the collab stream.
>ERB tonight Great.
At least do something new you dumb brown trannies
>>80007762Herb and spices.
>>80007637so true
>>80007637this. no one genuinely hearing other men shower your oshi with love with their gay posts and meme currencies. sc readings have great moments but that’s only after you sit through all of the cringe ruffian wanking
I saw Fuwawa on the telly but I didn't get a screenshot
>>80007814It'll never be anything new, it's always going to be one of the same eight loops
>>80007762I'm glad she's there because Liz is the only chance FWMC have of not coming dead last every time
>>80007974I accept your concession.
>>80008029all the great moments are because of me. if others would tell down we'd have a tight 30 min reading of fun tangents
>>80008029They're just zatsus but worse. It's like a date with 5000 other guys
>>80007814we're watching the dodgers instead of the collab
>>80008097What does it matter? FWMC will barely have a presence in this fucking collab.
>>80008088>eightRelevant GET, but oddly specific number. Name them
Collab? What collab? There is no collab happening tonight.
at the very least neither kronii nor bae will be there
Normally I hate clips but for collabs like this where cancer will be doing most of the talking, all FUWAMOCO parts will be clipped anyways.
oh I thought the collab was in 20 minutes...
>>80008186Pretty much. I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone can say they love listening to other ruffians’ love letters to them. Actual cuck behavior.
a lotta "real" ruffians here
Does it count as ruining a thread if you're only replying to yourselves?
>>80008196That's really on them. Joining collabs as a unit means they talk to each other instead of everyone else, and everyone else can't tell who they're talking to
>>80007637>>80008029>>80007974>>80008570OK so how do we get them to do actual fucking zatsu streams, it's almost been a year.
>>80008645Kill yourself shitposter, men are talking right now.
>>80008570Hearing Mocochan happily reading through all the heartfelt messages ln her birthday was one of the best moments this year. I'm sorry that all you can think of is other men all the time
Sports are fucking stupid. Someone else watch this shit and try to spot Fuwawa.
>>80008661subscribe to their tier 5. it's exclusive to there, for better or worse
>>80008661SC readings are an efficient way to do both at once. They don't want to double up and do zatus and SC readings
>>80008661They will never do that because they are dependent on bouncing off of superchats to create tangents for longer than an hour. They follow the formula of 1 hour of zatsu and then 5 hours of superchat readings. It’s sad.
>>80008284Eight is just one of my favorite numbers, we've probably got more loops than that, but that's what I went with. I just want to see someone complain/shitpost about something different
>>80008728Hey tranny did your niji organs stop streaming again?
>>80008739Lmao. Disingenuous post. Unless you mean to tell me you only listen to when your messages are read and have the rest of the stream muted. If so then you agree with me in that SC readings are shit.
>>80008728Real subtle phasekek
>>80008871>>80008980Kekaroo! Why did you reply twice? Mindbroken!
>>80008964I agree fellow ruffian, they should stop doing SC reading streams, in fact, they should stop getting superchats and graduate am I right?
>>80009071>no argument>deflectingYou’re done. Concession accepted, stupid fuck.
It's just disappointing that when they are so strapped to find time to stream they will still dedicate so many hours to reading superchats out of feelings of obligation. It got to being like 2/3 of their stream hours a few weeks back
I went to sleep while shitposting was rampant. It's morning here now and shitposting is still rampant. What the hell happened now?
>>80009124You missed the brief window of actual talk about FUWAMOCO.
>>80008964I like my wives being happy. Them being genuinely appreciative of the support they get is part of who they are and what makes them good
>>80009119>obligationThey love entertaining their paypuppies. In fact they intentionally let their backlog pile up and refuse to turn the option to send SCs off explicitly because they only care about the money.
>>80009027>Not denying the Phasecuck allegations anon...
>>80009215Song covers and original songs don't come cheap.
>>80009173>t. I love seeing my wives happy even if it means listening to other men shower them with love and praise for hours on end. God, I just get so hard whenever I hear someone call then “princess” and “miss fuwawa and miss mococo.” See? Actual cuck behavior. Why are you like this?
>>80009305Fuck off, shitposter. We are having actual discussions here.
The idol talk was fun.
>>80009124You should sleep more.
>>80009331I'm not a like schizo or a jealous menhera who seethes over other ruffians getting attention so I can't relate to you shitting yourself over thinking you're a "cuck" if they read someone elses SC sorry
>>80009215that’s not true, is it? my oshis are money hungry whores, are they?
>>80009407You're repeating yourself ESL phasekek lmao
>>80009430I'll sleep forever instead.
pwe
>>80009453>doesn’t even deny being a cuckThe absolute state.
>>80009119paypuppies are the entire reason they moved to Japan or have any success. They owe their entire careers to them. Superchat readings are the least they can do
