Turned out to be much more than merch, here is breakdown of everything discovered so far:Link to model's license: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WzWx-gw3I1KKIALZnIWY9dh6IDKSzK6l/view>Sponsorship could violate "Corporate Use" since the model is used to shill corpo product/services>Produced merch without contacting licensor>Gave everyone permission to make merch of the model on Twitter which viloates "Assigment of Rights and Obligations" and it's pretty much an IP theft>If she shared model with merch companies, "Redistribution of modified content" has that covered>Didn't credit author as required in case of commercial use (see special notes)>Most likely pirated the model and doesn't have permission to use it even for non-commercial purposeEven if she didn't ripped the modem, I've checked out her YT and Twitch descriptions and there are no credit under any video or stream, which means that most of her profit is illegal. She also started deleting all evidence which is a criminal activityThere is also a possibility of lawsuit from sponsors/merch companies, especially from Goodsmile who most likely started produced figures and had to scrap them.Is short: Absolutely and utterly fucked. Her only hope is model's author not going for that fat six-digit paycheck
>does a flipgoes into bankruptcy haha typicial fillipino boy antics haha....
Finally, an expert who is in contact with the involved parties and knows exactly what's going on and what's going to happen
very ESL post but not wrong.
>>80053034Don't trip on your way to school, flipbro
>>80053034indeed>>80053167it's entirely wrong. the continuous stream of malformed english describing the lurid ways in which filian will lose everything and go to jail illustrates the childish nature of filian antis
>>80052851Can GS go at her too for potentially lying to them about her having permission to even do this merch drop? What is the legal situation their?
>>80053323Probably not worth their time/money. Cancel + blacklist is enough.
>>80052851sister...
>>80053546>caught breaking the law>but muh libruls!kek
>>80053546i ask myself if these people have friends
>>80053942>not liking racially charged jokes means having no friendsThis is what /pol/ does to your brain
>>80054135Niggermind
>>80054273Case and point
>>80053323They most likely have a contract fine in case the project gets cancelled due to her fault, depending on how far in it is.Everything else just depends on the goodwill of the artist on how much of a settlement they will be okay with.Neither probably wants a lawsuit, that's just a waste of time and money. Only way that can happen is if Filian stonewalls him and then she is ultra fucked. She won't do it though if she has more than a double digit IQ.
>>80053819Where did I say anything about le heckin libruls? Don't out yourself so quickly, nijishart
>>80054135if u dissagree ur not my friend
>>80054304>if she has more than a double digit IQuh oh
>>80054135I mean, yeah. We have a secret handshake and coded language, you desperately attempt to keep up with the status quo because any misstep causes the mob to turn back on you the way it did for the radfems or the black israelites or the...
>>80054304>if she has more than a double digit IQ.if she did she wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.stonewalling is her go-to strategy for uncomfortable situations. she's fucked.
>>80054383He's quoting your image you retard
>>80054428Anon, it's extremely easy to just not say nigger. It takes exactly zero brain power to not be racist.
>>80054383>niji accusations out of nowherethe desperation is amazing
>>80054707you need that brain power to avoid getting enriched
>>80052851How many threads saying the same thing do we need? The sisters really think they got that Doki collabing whore this time, don't they? It's going to be delicious when the two parties work something out behind the scenes and nothing really comes of this. Because of course they will. Do you know what an expensive pain in the ass an international lawsuit would be? I'm going to enjoy the grudgeposting.
>>80055407Uwaaa, it's an unironic flipfag...kimoi...
She went into hiding.
>>80054383Don't use Fubuking ever again Filianshit larper.
>>80054304>She won't do it though
>>80055407its a blood sport to them. They don't care about intellectual property.
Filian is as legally distinct as Sonichu.
>>80055407There are retards still arguing that she did nothing wrong and selling merch off of a $40 model is fine.On the other hand, seems like people don't realize that the worst case scenario is that she can just get a new model at this point and be completely fine.
>>80052851Nice fanfic.
>>80056886Sonichu is more legally distinct.
>>80056886Yes, actually. There is nothing legally distinct about "Filian". Literally everything in the model is Rindo, zero changes were made.
>>80056919True but her ass is still grass when it comes to the past merch. I imagine they'll just settle, though.
>>80056886Sonichu would have a better case for being legally distinct than this bitch. If she really pirated the model she’s 100 percent fucked.
>>80055407If "sisters" are the ones who care that artists are not getting scammed then sure. They are not
>>80054383this you? >>80053017
i will tell you exactly what will happen. She will come to agreement with the guys and pay some money for him to fuck off. This incident will finally force her to buy her own model and the debut will be 10 times bigger because she will ride the drama wave and everything will go back to normal. She is not screwed, if anything she is getting free promotion, she is shameless and don't care.
Settle it behind the scene. Never bring it up or apologize. Drama sissys lose their mind. Win win.Like the internet historian
>>80054707Okay, nigger.
>>80057156100% this.
>>80057178Filian loses in every scenario. There is no "win" for her kek.
>>80057156She is still going to get blacklisted from Japanese corporations. Any chance of her expanding overseas is gone, except in China.
>>80057178She has to say something now that the nendos got canceled.
>>80056886>Go Filian! Go out and flip to the extreme!>Yes I will! Thank you manager (my manager is me)!
>>80057178>Like the internet historianqrd? Did the stock-photo guy sue?
>>80057283KEK
>>80057265>from Japanese corporationsJapan didn't even know who she was until yesterday.
>>80057178Tell me you don’t simp for a video essayist too. Snackers, please.
>>80057294The (original) Man in Cave video was plagiarized from an article.
westoids ruining vtubing
>>80057178I still haven't watched any of his stuff ever since the reupload. Shit was so bad it left a bad taste in my mouth.>>80057294Did you ever see the man in cave reupload? Did you notice how bad that was? Apparently the original was plagiarized and he got drama over it.
>>80052851Why does the model author have to be such a fucking dick about it?
It's that the cope has escalated from "this is totally fine and she has the artist's permission" to "well it's not like she'll have to graduate" in ~24 hours.
The japanese have started covering this shitshow, they also mention other merch she previously sold.https://x.com/cid_vrc/status/1809427516664218000
>>80052851>She also started deleting all evidence which is a criminal activityWhat the fuck do you mean by this. Really? In this day and age people still think they can get away with deleting incriminating evidence when it never works and only makes things worse?We're nearing single digit IQ territory here.
>>80056886At least Chris-chan made his own merch lol.
>>80057294>Use some artical >didn't cite it >tranformed it with humor and animations >company wants its cut and vid is taken down>settles it >Vid goes back up with slight changes >hbomberguy calls him out while also calling him sus right wing nazi >blood is in the water >Try and cancel him>still has not brought it up once or apologize>troons seeth till this day Never apologize
>>80057283lmao
>>80057686He had no sponsorship with GSC for a nendo of his stolen video.
>>80056961its just sonic and pikachu
>>80057294youtuber reads an article nearly verbatim with dumb jokes and silly animations interspersed inguy who wrote the article goes "hey dude come on you never asked me"twitter retards get offended for the writer, start the usual I CANNOT BELIEVE HE WOULD DO THIS I AM LITERALLY SHAKING THIS IS JUST LIKE 9/11 AND THE HOLOCAUST BUT EVEN WORSE youtuber hashes it out with the guy who wrote the article in privateyoutuber completely ignores twitterabsolutely positively nothing comes of it
>>80053323I’m a brainlet but does GS have solid ground to stand on because Fillian was a deceitful business partner? They only showed off concept art, so it likely was still in preproduction. If they had a bunch of Fillians that they could not do anything with, that would make it that much easier to sue her for business damages. I guess they could maybe sue her for reputation damages, maybe? But their bigger fear is dealing with two artists because it turns out Fillian used their work without consent, and who knows if they want a big payday or if they just want the company to take it down.
>>80057545If I was the author and have a million dollars to gain over this, I'd do worse things to her.
>>80057753his newist vid is sponsored by nordvpn. He won by not just not giving troons the time of day
This previous tweet got slapped by a community note as well.
>>80057362where's the pippa nendo fishman?
>>80055407>Muh sisters/vt/ wants every shitter to burn. Remember how fast this board shit on Niji during first week of Dokibird drama?>>80055407Your broke ass parents won't afford it, but we're talking about pro 3D artist that earns shit ton of money from booth and comissions. Filian fucked with artist big time, so pray your autism queen can please deez JP nuts
>>80057910>nordvpnReally big sponsor. What's next Disney?
>>80057156She's still screwed money-wise.Dramatourists won't bring her the cash she will need to cover this.
>>80052851>She also started deleting all evidence which is a criminal activityI see this parroted in several threads, but is it actually true? As far as I can see she only deleted the QRT of the nendo after GS removed it.
>>80057933it really is over.. for her wallet
>>80058004>Disney not enough drag time with kids for them to care anon
>>80057910His newer videos are doing way worse than usual, I wouldn't say he got out of it unscathed.
Why did she not listen to Anny? None of this would've happened if she had her own model.
>>80057910Are you really comparing GSC to NordVPN?
>>80058043She doesn't need dramatouritsts, anon. She's a 4-5 view without them.
>>80058150I don't think anny or filian have ever interacted with each other.
>>80058143>>80058191You lost sisters get over it. Maybe try leaving a witty comment under his new vid. They will show him
>>80058266Are you really comparing GSC to NordVPN?
Since she pirated her model, Jingo can get 'free' money from everything and not just merch?
>>80058266>point out reality>"y-y-y-you're a seething troon!!"
>>80058193Half her audience is composed of dramatourists, that's why she's so comfortable collabing with kiwifags like Kirsche and Pippa.
>>80058150I love the bratty sex fox.
>>80058193>5 viewI never saw Filian with 5 views except for when she did her shitty award show.
>>80058153>steals your IP >counts to 10>Hey, wait! You can't do that!>I COUNTED TO 10 THAT MEANS IT'S MINE NOW NANNER NANNER NANNER
>>80055407They really hate Filian for being edgy but also being one of the most successful vtubers, they're all coming here from Twitter, but they change their angle of attack because they know their methods that work on Twitter wont work here.
>>80057259Yes, but you also lose in the scenario dramafag.
>>80058490I like laughing at retards.
>>80058266Do you only care about winning or losing against muh libral boogeymen that are somehow here, and then watch the shitty remake?
>>80057933We need to make a distinction here though.The current situation with the Nendoroid is bad and on her, but fan made stuff isn't the same, like doujins ot fangames, it's not something people should even need permission
>>80058548Sure you do, sister.
>>80058533The fuck you mean lmfao, I've been winning since the start of this. Filian is in maximum damage control mode.
>>80058548Based.
>>80057933NOT THE TWITTER NOTE!
>>80058193Anon... Read the comment that started it.The guy was arguing that this is positive for her because she will ride "drama wave" and that she got "free promotion".
>>80057655That's fucking spreading a curse to other content creators so their lives fall apart. Chris won in the end.
>>80052851>Sponsorship could violate "Corporate Use" since the model is used to shill corpo product/services>Produced merch without contacting licensor>Gave everyone permission to make merch of the model on Twitter which viloates "Assigment of Rights and Obligations" and it's pretty much an IP theft>If she shared model with merch companies, "Redistribution of modified content" has that covered>Didn't credit author as required in case of commercial use (see special notes)>Most likely pirated the model and doesn't have permission to use it even for non-commercial purposeyes, breaking tos of a $40 premade model isnt a huge legal deal. money will solve any problem.>started deleting all evidence which is a criminal activityif you think deleting tweets/vods is a criminal activity you are retarded sorry
>>80058548
>>80058550am saying these people don't care about intellectual property some of they guys don't even belive in owning land and just see blood in the water and want to "cancel" (person they don't like). The only way you win is by not playing their game.
Didn’t she get a distinct model a while ago, the one with the overalls? Why didn’t she just stick with that?
>>80058739>yes, breaking tos of a $40 premade model isnt a huge legal deal. money will solve any problem.It wouldn't be if it was a nobody. But this is booths biggest money maker.
>>80058939She's retarded.
>>80056886It's more like she took a picture of Pikachu and said "THIS IS MY ORIGINAL CHARACTER, ELECTRORAT, FEEL FREE TO USE :)"
>>80052851Man, this shit is so fucking dumb. You have to be a sub-50 IQ chimpanzee to use a model you do not own and make merch out of it without reading the ToS. This shit is hilarious.
>>80058939Isn't that the model called "Mint" which also doesn't belong to her?
Have we finally got her sister is it over. She is done this time for sure
>>80052851>Steal a pair on Nikkes>Change the shoelaces and rebrand them as Nikko>Sell them as a product on shoe storesIs she retarded?
>>80052851What a fucking retard.
>>80059095No, she has a third model that would be considered distinct enough, she just barely uses it and I don't think it's ever been used in merch.
>>80059120She is chinese. Its a culture thing.
>>80058939That's also a model she pirated.
>>80052851Wait, she's a flip?
>>80059209>She is chineseThat's enough for me to anti her.
>>80058853It's not our game anon. Filian will have to settle this on her own.Also IH's uploads really have been kinda shit recently.Maybe don't get too invested on defending e-celebs, because dramafags always win.
>>80058148kek
>>80058948this whole situation is mostly about the cons of selling premade $40 product that anyone can use to create content. the premade model artist cant realistically go chasing everyone who downloaded the model illegally or made merch without asking.my guess is filian will settle $$$ to avoid bad PR and maybe get a legally distinct model.
>>80058316I doubt it, but bringing an international lawsuit would cost much more money and effort than they would get out of it either way, so it's not going to happen. Realistically/practically speaking Filian is likely safe from any legal issues, so this is mostly a matter of whether she's willing to part with some percentage of the profits in order to save her reputation.
>>80053323The amount of money they lost will dictaminate if they pursue legal amendments against Fillian. If they already started with the final production she is in for lots of troubles. They most likely were in prototype phase tho.
>>80059230She's a Filipino boy.
>>80059308That's the thing. This isn't just so random guy. This is a big cheese. He makes booth and by extension Pixiv retarded amounts of money. If they want to Pixiv will back them
>>80059270Yes she will have to settle this. But she does not have to kneel to the twitter mob. Or even apologize. Its between her and the owners. Not her the owners and a twitter crusade. You give thme a inch and they take a mile. What I am trying to say is ignor twitter.
>>80059230Neuro-sama called her "Filipino Boy" and the joke stuck
>>80059209>She is chinese.It all makes sense now.
Chad crisis manager her:>just keep ironically streaming unironically>put all earnings in crypto, gold and silver>get some shithouse lawyer just in case to delay everything >get a new model created by AI ironically>never choise a side politically but keep dogwhistling>use literally every corpo/clouted connection you have and make them choose you side and force collabs, or else make fun of them on stream and calling them cucks and stuff, completely burn that bridge.>join hololive if possible just for kek, and yagoo is based(for now) but it would be a good litmus-test anyway because the homogens are sus.>if possible, move to the least cucked country that has the most favourable laws for your situation, possibly where you have a network as well.(perhaps texas is alteady the best?)>literally shill crypto>use the goofy ahh elections as a leeching platform saying uncomfortable truths trying to get viral on normie tv>youre literally a female, youre literally above the law; use this to decimate your lowkey political enemies online by making "bad vibes" content (tongue in cheek ofcourse)>Or start your own vtubing corpo with someone else's money, which she should have done anyway with Neuro and that faggot vedal.Crisis averted
>>80059104
>>80059120>stealing is LE BAD
>>80057910>nordvpndamn I kneel
>>80059659I know is not blackrock but its still money for old rope.
>>80058150Was it also Anny that convinced Vedal he needs a new model for Neuro?
>>80059120Isnt this just tech companies?
>>80056659Is she actually going to do a fucking collab in a time like this or will she stay hidden?
>>80052851There's only one way this ends>"Wow, artists are so fricking cringe. Right, chat? Anyway let's watch some more Tiktoks." *Flips*
>>80059777Vedal just has a brain.
>>80059777I don't know who contacted who first but it was a great decision, now he's free to sell all the merch he wants without problems.
>>80059308I mean, the current drama says you can chase after them.>>80059611Pirating is cool. Selling shit off of it is disgusting, like some shitty website selling cracked copies of programs.
>>80058150If I had to guess, she had someone working on a model, they just never got it done because everyone knows artists don't have professional standards.
>>80059803Filian becoming a second Bahroo would be quite the development
>>80059787She really shouldn't. Imaging how awkward that shit is going to be for Bao. The best move is just to release a statement saying she is in contact with the involved parties and they will figure something out and to go back to streaming as per normal after AX.
>>80059611Yes stealing is typical nigger/poor person behavior.
>>80059906she has a model but said its worse then the current ones so why use it
>>80059209she accidently showed part of her body on camera. if shes chinese shes very white skinned
>>80059906Source?
>>80060076>if shes chinese shes very white skinnedThis is the hand of a asian person
>>80060055Not surprising, that's why there's so few vtubers that use 3D models.>>80060173I don't have a source, as I said, it's a guess.
Many people are mistaken due to Nip corpo Vtubers, but basically, Twitch should not be treated as mainstream content.
>>80060200Chat is this real?
>>80060372Yes. I can confirm that the vast majority of Chinese people have skin this colour due to the smog blocking out the sun.
>>80060200shes whiter then chibidokired head confirmed
>>80060200Cute hands. I'm hard just looking at them
>>80059209She is not, she's white, during her first collab with Doki they made this very clear.
>>80060200The pink tint in her skin doesn't look very asian.
>>80060372>>80060470This is not Filian's hand.>>55414672>>55414957
>>80060200a…are you single? Let’s talk about our oshis
>>80059933nah ignoring it and just doing her thing is the only right choice. If there are legal workings they will stay behind the scenes. None of big creators will say anything because she is a huge part of vtubing indie scene. That's like going after IronMouse even if she did do something scummy. The most you'll get is lukewarm I hope she learns from this *heart emoji*. It's the vtweeters and luteral whos that are seething.
>>80060583based drooling subhuman retardposter
>>80052851>Turned out to be much more than merch, here is breakdown of everything discovered so far:Let's fucking go!>Link to model's license: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WzWx-gw3I1KKIALZnIWY9dh6IDKSzK6l/viewawesome!>>Sponsorship could violate "Corporate Use" since the model is used to shill corpo product/servicesCorrect!>>Produced merch without contacting licensorYeah!>>Gave everyone permission to make merch of the model on Twitter which viloates "Assigment of Rights and Obligations" and it's pretty much an IP theftWrong! Only if you argue that her writing this implies (once more) that she has complete copyright over this, which she has stated otherwise on her streams. People on twitter constantly tell other people to produce merch of IPs they don't own. Doesn't make it IP theft.Strongest argument here: "implication of her owning the rights to produce merch">>If she shared model with merch companies, "Redistribution of modified content" has that coveredAbsolutely!>>Didn't credit author as required in case of commercial use (see special notes)Not needed. See:>8. Others - V Credit notation - Not necessary, but preferredNo credit is needed. There also isn't any "if corporate, then credit is needed".As for muh commercial, the license specifically says:>1. Main purpose(s) of using the Digital Content - A Personal Use Permitted to use in activities with commercial or non-profit-seeking purposesSo both commercial and non-commercial uses are FINE.Strongest argument here: "Filian is a corperation!" this needs to be proven.>>Most likely pirated the model and doesn't have permission to use it even for non-commercial purposeMaybe! But until proven, this is speculation.No, her saying it in a video is not proof enough as she has herself shown to be an unreliable source of information on her stream. The lack of a invoice from the online shop is evidence.>Even if she didn't ripped the modem, I've checked out her YT and Twitch descriptions and there are no credit under any video or stream, which means that most of her profit is illegal. She also started deleting all evidence which is a criminal activityAgain, credit is not needed.For "deleting evidence" to be considered a criminal activity, there needs to be an investigation happening.Me deleting private DMs is not criminal, unless someone charged me for drug trafficking and I wanna get rid of the nigger I had contact with.>There is also a possibility of lawsuit from sponsors/merch companies, especially from Goodsmile who most likely started produced figures and had to scrap them.Speculation.Japan copyright law is kind of different from american copyright law. It COULD happen, but at least to someone who has more brain than me, the outcome of a lawsuit might be that this can't be enforced in america. See this timestamped video: https://www.youtube.com/live/cS-pYYAvLc8?feature=shared&t=2181 (talking about the shop selling the model and the company making the nendo, with a short tangent in america)tl;drRight to integrety (which gets violated by creating merch) doesn't exist in america. It's a different law alltogether.From listening to him, it feels like wanting to charge your USB-C phone with Micro-USB. Both are USB cables, but they just will not fit. And seeing that neither the artist, nor goodsmile as any american branch, they most likely can't enforce their copyright (contrary to e.g. Nintendo, who has branches in almost every country. You will not find a character that is only protected in Japan. It will be protected by the copyright of multiple countries, in each specific country)Appearantly, the only thing that may or may not enforce this is twitter mob.(again, all according to that lawyer, but he seems neutral so I believe him)Hence a settlement would be preferable FOR BOTH SIDES.>Is short: Absolutely and utterly fucked. Her only hope is model's author not going for that fat six-digit paycheckSee above.Settlement incomming.WORST worst thing happening is, Filian not giving a shit and finding companies who also doesn't give a shit. She continues to use the model, and uses american companies to continue doing merch. This will burn the EN vtubing scene from ever collabing with anything japan, ever.BEST outcome is them settling this behind the scenes.Goodsmile making a "Rindo" nendo (which kind of fits because there are other famous VRChat models who already got their own nendo).Jingo gets some settlement money.Filian gets a new model and then can start to sell legit merch.tl;drstop shitting your pants with false "MUH CREDIT!!!" or "B-B-B-BUT COMERCIAL!!!!"This is about the merch.
>>80057576She's fucked isn't she?
>>80060200ayy lmao
>>80060699>No credit is needed. There also isn't any "if corporate, then credit is needed".
>>80061195welp, you got megomenasorryI am a retard and didn't read until further down.I swear the rest is legit!
>>80052851>Is short: Absolutely and utterly fucked.I sure fucking hope so.
>>80061415All that spastic drivel only for literally everything to be proven wrongWhat a loser lmfao
>>80053819>breaking the lawBro it's a civil case, calm down, the artist will most likely settle with filian for a 5 figure amount and call it even
>>80054383>>80057131No, that's me, dipshit, lololol
>>80057259>She uses the huge drama buff and all the eyes on her to debut her new model to a record setting crowd and even creates skits about her own trial for her "crimes"Yep, absolutely no way she's getting out of this one
>>80062616>new modelGood luck to her finding someone to want to work with her after this kek.
>>80062732>Good luck to her finding someone to want to work with her after this kek.Her new model was ready a year agoYou know what artists like more than "muh tegrity?"money
>>80062491>every fox girl looks the same Are you autistic?
>>80062795>Her new model was ready a year agoIf true even more fuel to her retard fire LMFAO
>>80060200Why this looks like Voldemort's hand?
>>80062826Do you even have to ask?
>>80052851>ripped the modemSlow down William Gibson...
>>80060200I thought this was a plastic manikin hand at first.
If i were the model artist i wouldn't want to miss out on a fat paycheck for damages, regardless of any backlash.Filian will just apologize, get someone to finally make her a new model and have her viewers help her pay for stuff while the model maker gets a nice amount of moneyWin win
>>80062732Yeah who would want to design the most famous model indie in EN. Let alone doing it for a lot of cash. That would be crazy. Exposure and money. What artist wants that?
>>80063013And the only ones at a loss are the retarded snackers. Truly, the best outcome.
he'll ask for 50M Yen and a naked dogeza
>>80063104and he'll be based for doing so
>>80063013The ultimate apology and mending of fences would be Fillian paying Jingo to create her new model.
>>80062491retard
>>80053034>Do a flip>Suicide her careerHehe lol
>80063308>Fillian paying Jingo to create her new modelbest end
>>80060200>LewdSpoiler this shit next time
>>80063059>most famous model indie in EN.lollmao
>>80063618Should have done that a long time ago, now the best case scenario for her is losing a ton of money in settlements and reputational damage.
>>80065216the people who care dont watch her already
>>80058143he still gets millions, and gets millions on his 2nd channelwhats his usual supposed to be
>>80054135Ok, nigger. Anything else you want to get off your chest?
>>80054135YOU ARE ON 4CHAN??? fuck off tourist
>>80060200not a single particle of sunlight has touch that hand
>>80066931Not necessarily, my skin isn't much darker and I occasionally go on hikes. My skin just burns, peels off after a few days and then it's completely white again. No tan at all. I've no idea why but I've always been like.
>>80067198Enjoy the early skin cancer bro
>>80067198Have you heard of the concept of sunscreen cream?It's not the burning and peeling that makes your skin brown.
I'm not letting this twittery slide. Shame on lesser slapse from all nations. When nothing happens and you're dumb>>80052851
>>80052851I don't think that poor artists from Japan will have money to chase content creator from other part of the globe... but they may rightfully use copyright claim systems on platform where Filian's active.The entire case makes any further promotion, merchandise, collaborations etc literally be gone because no company will want to be dealing with this crap. Probably Mythic will want to drop her.Also it creates extremely bad optics among general audience.The only way for Filian to get out of this scenario is to apologize, scrape EVERYTHING from her platforms and take a break to work on obtaining new model and do it in proper way. There's no way for her to keep using her current models.
>>80068000(me)And to make clear - all the bullcrap about her being racist etc is just that - a bullshit and meaningless noise. Still she's kinda fucked and the only way to get out of it for her will be pretty painful.
>>80060200after how many layers of bbcream?
>>80060616>nah ignoring it and just doing her thing is the only right choice>>the only right choiceThat depends. Do you want it to blow over or do you want her to be harassed?
>>80060616There's no way for her to keep doing what she's doing, retardino.Forget legal cases for a moment, that's a meme - no Japanese VRC model artist has that much cash to go after overseas person.But every platform where Filian's active has copyright claim system and she practically used offende artist's models pretty much in her every video. They just need to report her shit and her YT channel, Twitch channel, Xitter etc will be all gone and artists will be completely right in doing it. This is why her continuing to use these models is THE WORST she can do.
>>8005726590% sure the uh-oh was from her thinking she had time to get ducks in a row and GSC making an announcement while the ink on the contract was still wet.Source: Same shit happened to my mom with Games Workshop 25 years ago.
>>80060200From the thumbnail i thought she was wearing a glove.That is albino. My hands are darker than that and I'm an it worker on night shift in the rainiest state in the country.
>>80052851>filian is fucked!!!>plebbit spacing LOLSnackers don't give a shit, she'll be fine.
>>80057259>KEK RUMAO RORU hi SEAfriend
>>80060699tl;dr
>>80052851I don't think she's royally fucked but..If it was a JP-kun who got scammed by her then the JP mentality would be to compromise, maybe he'd be compensated and the merch would still go out.But its a Korean-kun, they could be a more vicious asian breed and seek damages and all that. Which they deserve.It's so mindblowing though her brain never stopped along the way and thought "man, my business is picking up, i better lose the stuff that i scrounged off the internet that i'll be using to make money off now" Even i do stuff like this once i started making money, like legal software use, ain't taking my chances and tank the whole business.Dumb zoomer.
>>80052851Facts:>Filian did not talk to the original owner of the model before releasing merch who states in the tos that you have to talk to him about merchandise>Claimed she owns it and was directing people to make more merch of the model (she isnt the owner)>She uses 4 different models on stream: The Jingo one which is the main one, "lil fil" 2 models by another artist, and 1 more unrelated to filian as a whole model which she calls Gilian. All are premade and arent original models, anyone can buy them off booth>She uses 2 models for merch, the Jingo one which we now found out was never contacted about the merch, the lil fil one made by Komado is the same situation as Jingo and does NOT allow for sale as merch>She uses 1 model for a video game, same artist as the lil fil one. Filian has never received permission>All of Filians assets come with the Rindo model which means Filian has not "based her model off Rindo", it IS the Rindo model>No word from good smile or Filian about itRrats(?):>Admits to never paying for the model implying she pirated it https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6805&v=_ZIYQu9pRpY>Pirating means she never could have known about the tos
>>80052851Filipinos have such an awful track record in vtubing. Can you imagine if Lyrica accepted going to ID instead? Maybe that branch would've been nuked from orbit.
>>80052851Filipino pala si filian ahahahaha kaya naman pala eh
>>80071359>>80071437She isn't a flip you fucking dramafags. It's a meme that started from Neuro calling her Filipino Boy, and then Filipino Frank.
>>80071669>the sister reveals she can't take a joke
This is IP infringement at best and a federal crime at worst. It's so mild that it's likely just a little IP infringement. I'm really confused by the snackers that really want it to be a federal crime instead of a simple IP oopsie that requires mild statutory compensation.
>>80071837>I was merely jokingFuck off retards, it becomes increasingly clear that none of you actually watch vtubers at all.
>>80052851Honestly I don't think she's smart enough for this to be some kind of masterminded plan to steal someone's artwork. I would absolutely take "it's just a model I copied from someone on VRChat I didn't know any better" at face value. She said some edgy shit about it but she's known to say edgy shit, especially when she doesn't believe she's really done anything wrong. It should have been up to her management to review the legal details at some point but clearly they weren't doing the grunt work. I think this resolves as a misunderstanding and all of the twitter faggots that are wound up on niji drama will go looking for blood in the water somewhere else.
This is so astroturfed
>>80056919She didnt do anything wrong
>>80052851Not even a Filian fan but things will end up in an agreement, a big nothingburger.
>>80072278i only watch CGDCT and don't watch h*mocollabers
I'm saving all these FILIAN IS FUCKED threads that are even making shit up now for some grudgeposting later. Gonna be great fun.
>>80066916Holy fucking newfag
>>80074374I like how some scenarios like Niji have everyone blowing the seventh trumpet month after month while other corpos and indies just experience episode #7547 of "Nothing Ever Happens"
>>80074713Well it's more like people are blowing this way out of proportion including literally making shit up like OP here. On the other hand it's still a big yab and Filian's "oopsie, pc hort" from yesterday doesn't help her much.
>>80071187Ripping a model is also against VRChat ToS so technically she can get banned.
>>80075979Fuck you're so right
>>80071187why is that video unlisted?
Why don't you just...I don't knowStream without expecting money in return?
Man, she's fucked.
>>80076495Threatened by Filian's legal team according to the uplaoder
>>80054707This is 4chan nigger
>>80052851lol now girl_dm_ is having to say she doesn't condone stealing models because one of the clips going around where Filian says she stole her model says she learned about Luppet from her. https://twitter.com/Girl_Dm_/status/1809671687895466160
>>80076968Why? If you do it as a hobby and have another job, you can't stream that much. Otherwise, ofc you want to earn money through your work.
>>80077984>workI should be paid for every 4chan post I make.
>>80060200I'm saving this to shut my friends up about me being pale. I'm black compared to this.
>>80052851Is Filian just lazy, doesn't give a shit or is she stupid? She's had more than enough dosh to commission her own oc unique model for ages.
>>80078100No because literally nobody gives a fuck about your 4chan posts. On the other hand people like watching streamers. They provide a service, entertainment in this case, and they can earn money through ads or direct donations of people watching the content etc. Hopefully this explanation on the level of talking to a 10 year old child has helped you understand the basic concepts.
>>80078699>literally nobody gives a fuck about your 4chan postsYou clearly do :^)
sorry I don't care, copyright laws are evil
>>80052851It's probably good this happened before she got famous or popular, it gives her time to get herself a new model that she owns. She will probably be able to get some assistance with how she is somewhat known.
>>80078699I can earn money by stealing other's works and presenting them as my own as long as I'm a woman? Great to know!
>>80078780I think their bullshit too but it doesn't change the fact of the matter that Filian is kind of a dumbass for not commissioning an OC.
>>80052851JAIL TIMEJAIL TIMEJAIL TIMEJAIL TIMEJAIL TIME
>>80078642All three, and add "woman" to the list.
>>80052851The biggest woman moment was not getting an original model after blowing up and making tons of money, just peer incompetent on her part. Hell, if she really liked the model and wanted it to be her brand officially, she could have contacted the artist and came to some sort of deal but she didn't.
>>80079470Her bragging about how easy it was for her to get a model for free was never the chad move she thought it was. It's like a Jew bragging about getting a discounted toothbrush because of a loophole in the stores advertisement.
>>80078778Enough to reply, true. Lemme know how much you've earned from that. Your simile is still retarded and here we are. Go milk a goat or something...whatever the fuck you 3rd worlders spend time doing
>>80080087No need to seethe so much my melanin rich fren.Learning how to handle losing is gonna be a big part of your journey!
>>80078851When have I said that? Her using the models for physical merch is bad. It needs to be addressed and resolved. Also she's not helping herself with pretending her PC got coincidentally broken either. It's just that it's all blown out of proportion /here/
>>80052851Good, i always despised how hard she was shilled here like she was the best streamer out there
>>80080332You said that she deserves money for what she's doing.Well, turns out that she's stealing.Do you still believe she deserves to monetize her streams like this?Do I need to repeat this like you're a 3 y/o?
>>80078642Just another woman moment. >what do you mean laws applies to me? I said I didn't care
>>80058143>doesn't maintain peak popularity forever after long breakswow, who could have guessed?
I dont hate "her" but this whole shitstorm has been hilarious. I can't wait for the lolsuit
meh even she loses half or more of her audience she's still big enough to make a living streaminghardly a career killer but it'll hurt if it gets that bad
>>80052851Nobody cares aside from soon to be replaced artists and eternally assblasted retards on shitter
>>80081262Nothing is going to happen.International lawsuits are retarded expensive and cumbersome.The creator is also japanese and we all know that japanese creators are a bunch of spineless cucks.
>>80052851It’s a shame all of this is happening to Filian if only because I’ll miss masturbating to her live after she goes to jail
>>80080401Yes, for streams absolutely. As you can see in the model license, it allows for commercial use for streaming. The only contentious point is the physical merch. (and maybe the game character for the Mint model, not sure about that one). And I understand that you've seen like 20 threads talking about how she pirated the model posting some screenshots of a joke from 2022 but you should probably double check things first. Or did you just read the OP and just took it as true?
>>80081461There will be a lawsuit. Fillian is a cash cow and she needs to have her utters milked
>>80081567>it allows for commercial use for streamingThat's some made up bullshit excuse.Show me the creator posting in japanese that he allows streamers to make money out of his vrchat model for streaming.
>>80081708literally from the google doc from the OP (it's the same for both Rindo and Mint)
>>80082021It says it's allowed for use in streaming.It doesn't say anything about monetization.
>>80081461>japaneseKorean
>flips>Destroys her own career out of sheer retardation I liked her
>>80082155Even worse, they got cucked out of half of their own country.
This is why we need AI. I can't wait for more artists to be destitute and homeless.
>>80082214Both artists and vtubers should get replaced by AI and be forced to get a real job at McDonalds.
>>80082201Have you ever seen thieir revenge movies? I woudn't cross a korean.
>>80082100everything would be just so much easier if you look at these things before making comments.
>>80082271AI isn't there yet for vtubers but it would be ideal. I've seen neuro streams. Only brainrotted zoomers could like that word salad shit.
>>80082309and who wrote that document? the creator himself? I didn't know he knew english.
>>80081461It doesn't need to be a lawsuit. The artist can just ask for an exorbitant amount of money with a threat of a lawsuit. Filian knows she is in the wrong here and would lose a court case so she'll pay that money and settle or risk taking it to actual court and definitely lose which would be significantly worse for her branding and image.
>>80082309>thinking retards actually read or looks up information.lollmao even
>>80053942If retards fatsos like Digibro managed to not only have friends but also girlfriends to plow then yes.Those people can have friends.
>>80082309excuse you, i'm trying to move the goalpost here can you please stop
>>80082396see>>80082373
>>80082311But enough about Filian
>>80052851>release model>it gets cloned/used a lot, its on VRchat what do you expect>model gets massively popular>attempt to own it again after X amount of years to cash in on goodsmile moneyTheres no way the artist hasn't heard of Fillian before right? I imagine they'll just settle behind the scenes and Fillian will get a new model regardless, she's done so much damage to her equipment over the years she clearly has money to spare so I think she'll be fine to reach some kind of agreement that benefits everyone involved more than years of legal fees
>>80082373I'll just spoon feed you anon at this point. Starting to feel bad about (you)https://booth.pm/ja/items/2258111https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WzWx-gw3I1KKIALZnIWY9dh6IDKSzK6l/viewhttps://jingo1016.booth.pm/items/3443188https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QxPH35idalnqYYCs9zS9DDuTvhNSfnOv/view
>>80082466Filian at least seems human. Get back to me when they publicly release those AI models that fool people who interact with them into believing they are human.
>>80082587It doesn't say anything about monetizing the model.
>>80082495>Theres no way the artist hasn't heard of Fillian before right?He doesn't appear to really be involved in vtubing, it's completely possible that he only had vague knowledge of an EN indie who was using the model to stream (which the artist allowed) and had absolutely no idea she was using it for selling merch (which he doesn't allow).
>>80082373Yeah, I'm sure the translation just randomly added the word commercial there. I'm done with spoofeeding now cuz >>80082396anon here is right. It's a waste of time
>>80054383Nijis are liberals wtf are you on
>>80082698Add in that Filian basically doesn't exist outside of the EN sphere and yeah it's very likely that if he knew about her at all it was only as some indie streamer and nothing more.
>>80082721So you can't even prove basic stuff?What a fucking retard.
>>80058853I solely go on VT for drama like God intended
>>80082495Why snackers assume that everyone must know their indie whore? Ironlung is far more popular than her and barely anyone talking about her in eastern sphere.
>>80082957it's almost like these artists dont give a shit about what they make until they realize they can sue someone and get a quick payday
Filian is about to stream in a couple minutes. I wonder if she addresses this
>>80082649If you're only talking about getting money through streaming, like superchat or streamlab donations? Yes that is okay. The issue currently with Filian is the misuse in regards to Derivative work and merchandising based on the models used.
>>80083080>is about to stream in a couple minutesLMAO, she already went into hiding
>>80083080it's an irl stream, if it was a normal stream yeah she would but an irl collab? i doubt it
>>80057545How are they being a dick? Retard
>>80083184Funny how you forget to mention ads and selling skins in other games.
>>80083196anon...that's from yesterday
>>80083080uh oh
>>80083309Are you retard?>>79993714
>>80053034I’ll trust a greentexting anon over that faggots like legalmindset any day
>>80083062>artist writes a clause so he doesn't get fucked out of money>user agrees to this and uses model>artist gets fucked out of money>IP laws are cancer and artists just want moneykwab
>>80083371Are you? Look at the date and time of that thread.
>>80083371No but I think you are
>>80083483>It's fricked. i think we're just back tomorrowYou clearly are and lack of reading comprehension too.
>>80072138>>80072375thiswho cares? holobronies and nijisisters together are making much ado about nothing
>>80057576>the Japanese It’s a literally who, Japan.>moon runes make everything more serious
>>80083371can you fucking read or are you just pretending to be retarded
>>80083607Which is today you fucking mongoloid.
>>80083607>Filian is about to stream in a couple minutes. I wonder if she addresses thisthis was the original post. Which is still true. The thing you linked is from yesterday and here I'm gonna blow your fucking mid. Yesterday's tomorrow is today. Does pagpag eating affect person's brain or something?
>>80083300That should fall under "Article 4" in the provided document. The in-game skin should fall under "Integration into software, such as product development" - "Please contact the Licensor(s)" do that that model being used needing confirmation.
>>80084175that's a nice argument anon but filian fans can't read anything that doesn't have buzzwords or makes funny noises
>>80085128You make a fair point anon. I'll reset my case
>>80083080I don't see her live. Where are you watching?
>>80083080>>80085982>*no response*So you're a liar just like her. Got it.
OH NONONOWhy isn't our queen filbert streaming bros???I thought she was innocent...
>>80086805ok, now you are trying to hard, anon. I'm sure you are in the chat with all the other dramaniggers waiting for the tech stuff to get sorted. But even with you just shitposting, I'll give you one thing. If the stream somehow doesn't happen, I will reevaluate my position.
>>80087899>>80086239
>>80088388How convenient!
>>80088432Sorry you're not getting you wanted, dramafag. Try not to cry too much when she goes live with Bao :)
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