>>93145046
>now
it has been for a while

>>93145046
Its probably just for EN because the whole topic around lolis is controversial in the west, bur for JP its still ok because they still talk about lolis and shotas

>>93145078
Why do they keep making loli Holo EN members then lol, Bijou embodies that whole culture and Gigi while she doesn't really play it up is still a loli

The fact that Irys felt the need to correct herself that quickly is quite telling, they must have an actual list of words and phrases for them not to talk about and loli is likely one of them. Which is crazy cause i'm pretty sure Irys has talked about traps and shotas before and nobody really cared except twitter trannies, but I guess now that Hololive is mainstream they don't even want to offend that crowd

>Irys
Those that don’t watch her should never comment on her.

>>93145046
I remember there was a Council fan-artist who made a big fuss about the loli thing in Holo, which caused a big backlash on Twitter between the "your likes are public" Rev type of fans and the self-proclaimed "true Holofans"

You fags can enjoy lolis all you want, but don't expect everyone to like your kink, especially the ones in burger-land

>>93145855
Well that's their problem, and it'll continue to be brought up whenever a western Holo "fan" rails against lolis because most of JP is open about lolis and shotas. Also EN continues to get loli characters, so not really sure what the argument against it is

>>93145322
Subaru got reminded by a collab partner when she said cocaine, meaning its likely a banned word.

> Hololive is mainstream they don't even want to offend that crowd.
More like they don't want to get demonetized by Youtube.

>>93145046
Why is she so into this

>>93145855
You scared of a little four letter word or something bud?

>>93146028
I doubt saying loli is a blacklist term for demonetization, and again JP members blatantly still say the word to this day without an issue. Its more likely just bullshit woke reasons of not wanting to get the usual suspects riled up

>>93146042
Because Irys is the biggest degen of EN

Could just be a Yabairys thing, self-correcting in an intentionally comically ineffective effort to pretend that she didn't just say what she very clearly said
>>93146028
>More like they don't want to get demonetized by Youtube
Or that. I mean it is the reason why most of the Holo girls' 3D models have textureless black spats under their skirts (except Miko and Fauna, who respectively wear pink and green spats; Biboo, who wears either white spats or white bloomers; and Fuwamoco, who somehow got away with shimapan)

>>93146028
fuck that faggot site

>>93145046
>watch corpo that desires mainstream popularit
>get upset when they adopt mainstream culture
what do you call this mental illness

>>93145169
I love searching for loli content and google basically calling me a pedophilie.

>>93145855
No one expects everyone to like it but why in God name would you bitch and moan over something common in anime otaku culture. It's been a thing for decades. Sounds like the fan artist wants to force people to like and dislike what they like.

>>93148206
import masses of normies into your corpo, get masses of normies into your corpo. are you stupid?

>>93145046
>Overanalyzing every little thing people say and turn it into a /pol/ conspiracy theory

>>93148300
so you dont think its even a little weird?

>>93148300
Feels like the entire thread is Rev's samefagging

>>93145046
Guyris is JP anyway so it's excusable

>>93145046
YouTube is a shit platform and uses AI automatisms to strike your videos

>>93145218
>Bijou
Bans anyone mentioning and memeing about lolis
>Gigi
Not a loli

>Pander to normie
>Have to follow normie morals now
Hope those big numbers were worth it

>>93146139
holy tourist newfag, JP and EN has different YouTube restrictions. It's very super obvious that EN Youtube is super restrictive. JP Youtube is getting that way but it wasn't as bad as EN

>>93148300
awful terrible people in this hobby, they need to leave this hobby, they just don't get it

>>93145046
westerner has a chronic pedophilia problem, they have been more sensitive to the topic in recent years that even just being in the same elevator with a child can get you in trouble.

>>93145046
IRyS is EN. EOPs get upset at fucking everything so holoEN has to walk on eggshells more then jp

>>93145046
The western investors don't like it when people associate their brand with loli so it had to be banned

>>93150201
IRyS lives in japan and is a native japanese speaker you fucking mongoloid

Enjoy your DEIshit holofags

>>93148595
>Thread about iRyS
>Rev unprompted
Raped faggot KEK.

>>93146087
>When you are literally fucking surprised that the services you use to keep you famous do not like certain words, phrases, or events
>scared of a little four letter word
okay bitch

>>93150399
https://youtu.be/-E0wrjxsbTE

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It's lolover.

>>93145046
To be fair Loli does genuinely refer to pedophilia, so it's not that unreasonably to want to avoid mentioning it.
>N-no it's not!
Anon it's a term dragged directly from a book about a pedophile referring to a child by "lolita" instead of her actual name to dehumanise her further as he was raping her.
>B-but I heard the story was about a child seductress??
You were told a lie by utter retards. It's a book about how criminals twist the facts to make themselves seem less guilty, that's the main point of the book, the fact that the "author" and main character is trying to deceive the audience. Some pedophile Hollywood execs then had a good laugh and decided to take those lies seriously and make some movies where Dolores (the child that gets called Lolita) was actually trying to seduce the main character (and then the director had sex with the underage actress who was playing Dolores, you can't make this shit up)

TL;DR: Lolita isn't some innocuous term to be thrown around casually. It's been a pedo dogwhistle since before the internet was around.

>>93145855
I'm starting to think Rev and his fans are actual pedophiles by how much they feel the need to defend it. The dude literally makes 50% of his videos about defending loli from the big bad mainstream audience.

>>93151582
>Lolita
It's also a Japanese street fashion completely unrelated to the book and extremely modest with clothes based on Victorian times. Maybe stop forcing all words to have the meaning you want them to. Different words mean different things in different contexts.

>>93151582
It's not dragged from the book but from a study about the book called The Lolita Complex, nobody has read it but the study is even more explicit than the book and while the book is somehow a humorous critique of pedophilia the study by Russel is a serious attempt at claiming that America should prepare to face a wave of lolita/older man relationship, he claims that girls under 14 years old seducing old men are lolitas and all of them are seductress, that the research for an older partner is in their nature. It contains many court cases to back up his claim and it kinda reads as exploitative sometimes.

>>93151669
If you want to have a good laugh try reading the wiki page for lolita, there's a whole ass section defending the idea that "It's different in Japan!" with just the most adorably infantile copes and excuses.

>>93149763
>Bans anyone mentioning and memeing about lolis
Does she really? She plays into the baby thing pretty heavily too

>>93151738
>Words mean different things in different context
Yeah like when you search loli with safe search off and totally don't get 99% porn, this means the one clothing style thing is totally a relevant thing to bring up here because it's an entirely valid and fair use of the term and not really jarringly out-of-place.

Also the character depiction Irys is referring to here is totally wearing that style of clothing, entirely relevant to this conversation buddy!

>>93151747
(me)
>>93151738
The lolicon "manga" movement was first, and lolita fashion was widespread when Lemon People was already published, which was way after the first works by Azuma at Comiket. Even the fashion etymology comes from the book The Lolita Complex, so it doesn't really matter that much.
>>93151751
It is different you cretin.

Loli is literally a character trope in most anime and Japanese games with or without sexualisation, it's absurd to suddenly want to ban a word that is so widely used in the otaku sphere to describe popular characters.

>>93151768
There is a gargantuan mountain between an adult woman acting childish for entertainment (or just being generally immature) and seriously suggesting she's an actual child.

It's honestly a bit jarring to see everyone meme about her childishness because "haha she's so clumsy like a child" while ignoring the fact that she's probably fucked up due to being partially malnourished and having no good sense of balance, these rather worrying signs are being handwaved as cutesy when it's not at all normal for an adult to have this many issues with balance.

>>93151867
It's an act.

>>93150289
Yes, she is lives in Japan, but she is apart of Hololive English. I mean if you want to be technical, all of EN’s YouTube accounts are “based” out of Japan.

>>93151832
>I-it's different!
I bet. Tell that to the Doujinshi. All this shit in JP vidya where there's always this little girl character (in no way in the typical 'lolita' fashion you are trying to deflect to)

>>93150289
She's in the Hololive English branch, hense she is EN.

>>93151897
I sure hope so, because the alternative is genuinely fucked up growth and deformity (not like that) causing permanent balance issues as a result of long-term malnourishment, which isn't as fun to think about as "funny small woman is tripping over her own feet how cute haha"

Something something trafficking is a major issue something something

>>93151867
>anon still hasn’t realized streamer plays a character that is likely not like their actual self. News at 11.

>>93151867
My god you people can't be helped

>>93151947
It's definitely an act. Clumsy moe has been a staple of otaku culture since nigh its very inception. All that aside, you CAN be clumsy and not be a malnourished retard. I know a few girls with coordination issues.

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>>93148206
Normalfags/tumblrtards are quite literally parasites on other people's hobbies and do not seem to understand morally why it's a dick move to come in and say "I like your warhammer models but what if we took them apart and repainted them in lgbt colours?" and then started doing that without your permission.

>>93148095
Google is right, stop being a creep

>>93151867
Have you ever met a Thai woman? They're just like this

>>93151979
>>93151987
>Illiterate retards project a narrative instead of just reading what they're told
Why though? No shit she plays a character
>>93152006
The act is her being cutesy about it, I'm sure it's something she could merely be "lying" about and that these accidents she keeps mentioning haven't actually happened, but she's had a damn consistent pattern of attributes that relate to childhood malnourishment. Yea no shit the woman isn't going to ham up some tragic childhood and is instead depicting it as a cutesy clumsy character.
>You CAN be clumsy and not be a malnourished retard
Not sure where you're getting 'retard' from but generally coordination issues have a cause and not just "welp she's just LIKE that".

>>93152086
Racist cunt.

Good
loli is pedophilia

>>93152188
Then Hololive is a pedophile company and anime + VTubing are pedophile hobbies because there are loli characters in all of them regardless of if they use the word or not.

>>93151832
its not but keep coping pedo

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>>93152228
>Then Hololive is a pedophile company and anime + VTubing are pedophile hobbies
Based

>>93152228
its a well know fact irys is a pedophile. and so are most japs, child porn is legal there

>>93152119
You have a hypothesis
It's non-falsifiable and based on speculation
You can insist on it forever, but there's simply no concrete evidence. "Being clumsy" is a normal personality trait that isn't necessarily related to childhood trauma, malnourishment, or some disordered development. Thai women are much shorter than average, in fact her mom is even shorter than she is. She was born and raised in a first world country with access to media and a decent education.
What are you ultimately trying to allude to here? Spit it out. What are you ultimately trying to suggest about her?

Overall idc about whether loli is ok/not. My only problem with it is how it makes it harder to find any short women in anime/manga who is simply that—short. No, they have to fall into the fucking loli archetype. Bro, just give me a regular short adult. Not that stuff.

>>93145078
Bullshit. When jp uses it
Hololive just bent the need to western censorship

>>93152288
Sure, what about Gura and Bijou? Neither are Japanese and Gura doesn't live in Japan. What's your next cope? Loli is a character trope and if you are into anime or VTubing it's gonna be there, getting mad about it and calling everyone that likes those characters a pedo makes you a tourist that should find a new hobby.

>>93152321
Agreed. I like petite women, but I do not like children at all.

>>93152350
Petite women in anime are lolis, that's literally a type of loli.

>>93145322
Ironic considering 85% of hololive fans are pedophiles who are unironically attracted to children. Which is why hololive is a popular among them. Women pretending to be child cartoon anime girls is what they all tune on hololive for.

>>93152342
>triggered pedo.
You are not beating the child diddler claims.

>>93148095
Because you are you fucking idiot.

>>93152400
I'm not even attracted to women regardless of age, I just have brain cells.

>>93145046
>it's a banned word
lol
https://www.youtube.com/live/eI_lJJYOlTQ?si=XvpAHpbmaJHgx4mP&t=3908

>>93152417
So you have braincells and these braincells are enabling you to defend art of sexualized little girls? You could've fooled me.

>>93145046
I immediately thought of Biboo and FWMC singing Loli Kami Requiem. If it was really banned, Cover wouldn't have let them say the title, much less sing it. I think this is just IRyS trying not to step on any toes

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>>93151917
I'm not the guy trying to link loli to lolita fashion since they are two different phenomenons. I'm the guy who told you you are wrong on the etymology and lolicon is indeed different from CP. Let's go back to Lemon People, Lemon People and even Burikko (Burikko I'm not 100% sure) used to publish CP and gravure alongside lolicon material, the reason being Japan having a weird ban on bushes, as long as the pussy was not shaved it had to be censored, so they just started using shaved or clean pussies to play around the issue, and it worked, most of the porn material around that period was from 14+ years old, Lemon People was not a special case but the norm. But after the 5# issue Lemon People stopped that, was it because the government was on their asses? As if, the reason why they stopped is $, lolicon material was more popular, people bought the thing because of lolicon not CP or gravure, so they just removed it to maximize the profit on the lolicon niche. They were 2 different markets, they wanted 2 different things, all porn is porn but not all porn is rape. If we go even further back the statement "loli=CP" is even more idiotic considering how the lolicon phenomenon is rooted in concepts like Moe.


年齢なんてどうでもいいやろ!可愛ければなんでもいいんや

>>93152434
yes we know pedophilia is normal for japs

>>93152457
>art of sexualized little girls
Gura and Bijou are not sexual but they are still lolis, you just don't know what words mean. Loli is the character type not the situation they are in. You can have lolis without sexualisation, in fact most lolis are not sexualised in the original content but only by their fandom.

>>93152530
Gura doing weird asmr sucking on lollipop must be normal to you huh you fuckinh pedo faggot.

>>93152010
>normalfag corpo
>complain about normalfags
????
you fags haven't exactly been gatekeeping the hobby, so why whine about who comes in?

>>93152311
>You have a hypothesis
It's non-falsifiable and based on speculation
Correct, and I've never once acted as though it was anything more than that, so I have no idea why you feel the need to "clarify" something that was never in question. I have not "insisted" on anything, I have clarified my position when challenged, your literacy is utterly deficient if you've somehow come to think otherwise.
>What are you ultimately trying to suggest about her?
Nothing beyond what I said, why would I need to? Her self-described attributes match common symptoms and consequences of childhood malnourishment, this can have countless causes from harsh abuse to reckless dieting or general health issues, and I see no point in randomly guessing at causes. I am merely stating that I find hearing about her constant issues with balance to be more concerning than endearing, you didn't have to turn that into a whole ass psychotic rant about me "trying to suggest something about her".

>>93152560
Ironically, you are the one that needs to grow up if you get that upset with an adult woman doing ASMR (which I'm pretty sure she didn't even do)

>>93149763
>>Bijou
>Bans anyone mentioning and memeing about lolis

Is this true? If so very not based of her especially since it hasn't gone unnoticed that she's leaning into being more seductive compared to a few months ago.

>lolicon is indeed different from CP.
Its not
the "its le different" is a western cope by pedos in denial
In japan it means pedophile but they don't care because pedophilia is normalized there
loli=CP is correct

>>93152506
>I'm the guy who told you you are wrong on the etymology and lolicon is indeed different from CP
You're the guy who got fooled by the most basic dogwhistle distraction, lmao. The literal only reason "lolita" fashion was branded as such was to create a plausible cover for actual pedophiles, and you are probably well aware of this already you lying piece of shit.

>>93152642
She's a grown ass woman acting seductive, not a child acting seductive, her not being comfortable with being genuinely likened to a child is entirely reasonable.

>>93152644
Loli is the character, how the fuck would that ever be CP if the character is not even sexualised? If you want to use lolicon, don't use loli, those words aren't the same.

>>93145046
what's this gura thing?

>>93152628
>grown women sexualizing art of children
>YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND ACCEPT PEDO SLOP LIKE ME!
shut the fuck up you aren't even trying to deny you're a pedo at this point just finding ways to justify it.

>>93152710
this came up as the first video when I searched "gura 4 letter word" in youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mogz1WJUjuA

>>93152704
>The shorthand is not the same as the thing it's shorthand for
Lmao, some copes this thread are genuinely braindead.

>>93152378
Whatever it is, I ain't a pedo for liking short adult women

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>>93152587
Uh oh redditor melty.

>>93152724
It's because of people like you that no one cares about real pedophile accusations anymore. Just because I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I'm attracted to real or even fictional children. I never was and never will be. I feel no attraction towards lolis or shotas, literally 0. They should be allowed to exist though and banning those words is ridiculous. If you don't like the hobby and the culture it always had, leave. Drawings aren't children.

>>93152587
Indie vtubers are unironically more normalfag friendly than JP corpo vtubers (in the west at least)

>>93152560
Gura is in her 20s. Her character is the same height as her irl. What's the problem?

>>93152802
There's a difference between saying "pedo art is fine as long as it's not related to real people" and saying "stop comparing lolis to pedos!!!!", pedo-kun.

>>93145046
Yeah man, it's so corrupt that even Sora had to do two hours long stream talking about what sort of suffering little boys have to be subjected to for her to really enjoy it

>>93152530
>You can have lolis without sexualisation
>YOU don't know what loli means
Lmao, the irony is staggering. Lolicon is DEFINED as a sexualised child you infantile retard.

>>93152698
She's a grown ass woman portraying a fucking loli, if Biboo isn't cool with the loli part (as she once made clear with all the fucking baby imagery) then she shouldn't be doing shit like placing her fucking face close up to dip into gfe just because living in japan costs more. If someone was spamming cunny in her chat then fine ban that but the mere mention of the word loli shouldn't trigger a ban.

>>93152843
I agree with both statements though. Also, use the right words. You are always confusing the character (loli) with the person attracted to it (lolicon), not that it matters because you are wrong either way.

>>93152876
Lolicon yes, loli no. Or are you telling me all small genshin impact characters are sexualised by the devs since they use "loli" in the character model file name? Loli is the character, lolicon is the person that sexualises it.

>>93152875
QRD?

>>93152930
>Lolicon is different from loli (short for lolicon)
Lmao.
>noooooo loli is lolicon without the sexualisation!
Nah, we have a word for that: child
>noooo see loli is a particular type of child!
Indeed, a sexualised one.

>>93152644
>>93152670
You didn't even try to address the contents of the post, lol. I can write paragraphs on the history of lolicon, bring data pointing out how it taps a different market, how the consumption is not correlated to CP, how the term itself meant person obsessed with any kind of 2D woman (Lum and Clarissa) and you guys would still close your ears and screech because that image doesn't fit your vision of the movement. In other words; Moe-Phobia.

Ligniggers need to be gassed without any mercy.

>>93152944
Marine claimed that Sora is a M so Sora called into her stream and set things straight, sadly the wording wasn't the best so she had to clarify in a separate stream that she likes them in their teens rather than elementary school age and then expanded on details
https://holodex.net/watch/JZIn7Tmifro

>>93152930
>Are the small genshin impact characters sexualised
Is that actually a genuine question? What the fuck dude. Did you think the devs just randomly figured "hey lets put random child characters in our game about fighting monsters"? No dog they knew what they were doing pandering to pedos.

>>93153005
>Ligniggers need to be gassed without any mercy.
Holy based

>>93153005
>You didn't even engage with my fictional bullshit
Correct. Why would I bother when you just made shit up?
>I can write paragraphs on the history of lolicon
No doubt. I can write pages about the history of rabbits on the moon, that doesn't mean shit.
>I can bandy out all the usual copes and deflections about how a small subset of people appreciate the fashion that's branded "lolita" and aren't pedophiles as though those exceptions somehow define a rule even though I know full well it doesn't because I'm an absolutely deceptive piece of shit :^)
Cool. Speaking of not addressing the contents of a post though, nice deflection there too buddy. Fucking hypocrite on top of it all, how very surprising.

>>93152976
>short for lolicon
Says who? You? So you are telling me that when people say "Gura is a loli." they mean "Gura is attracted and sexualises petite girl characters in general." and not "Gura is a petite girl character."? Do you really believe loli and lolicon are the fucking same? That makes absolutely no sense.

>we have a word for that: child
That word doesn't work because most lolis are not even underaged characters and many underaged characters in anime aren't lolis. It's a character trope with a specific body type, not an age range.

>loli is a particular type of child! Indeed, a sexualised one.
No, it's a body type specific to anime regardless of age.

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>>93153005
>Ligniggers need to be gassed without any mercy.
based

>>93153105
>when you just made shit up?
Do you want me to link you the articles?The issues of Lemon people are on sadpanda so not that hard to verify.

>>93153054
>>93153124
>>93153005
I guess Hololive should stop hiring them because that’s exactly what they’ve done for Advent and Justice.

>>93153122
Oh look, it's the same tired old copes every pedo throws around, trying semantics and pedantry on top of it all. How droll.

>>93153011
So all cartoons with children fighting monsters (most of them btw both in the eastern and western world) are sexualised just because there are children fighting monsters there? Are you listening to yourself?

>>93153146
Oh look, you cherrypicked and disingenuously misrepresented the argument. How very surprising. I know you're not as dumb as you're acting anon, you can drop the act, there is no audience here worth the performative horseshit you're pulling.

>>93153166
Saved them from ligniggerdom? Yeah I know. Very nice of them to do so

>>93153167
It's not a cope, it's reality and you would know if you actually watched anime which apparently many new VTuber fans don't.

>>93153212
>This thing is y
>"Ah so you're saying all things are y???"
Yeah anon that's totally what I was saying.

>>93152840
So gura va sucking on lollipops asmr under loli anime rig sexualizing the character is not pedoslop? What the fuck? This is going beyond cope.

>>93153252
Uhuh. Very convincing anon, just assume I haven't watched anime why don't you. It's not as though vtuber fans commonly have watched anime and would immediately realise you're full of absolute shit. Oh wait no the vampire child in Monogatari is actually a 9999 year old vampire that just got sealed in the body of the child, the snail is a ghost that's actually like 30 years old, the little sister.... oh fuck

>>93153253
There is no sexualisation in the child characters in Genshin Impact but they are called lolis because that's what they are. That's what the character trope is. It has nothing to do with sexualisation.

>>93153321
>The child characters in Genshin aren't pandering to pedophiles
>Meanwhile in reality....

>>93152787
explain brocon/siscon twitter tourist.

>>93153318
That's not a storyline that is anime exclusive or even Japanese exclusive. Characters that are much older than they seem is a common trope in fiction, it's standard for many fantasy races even. Vampires, elves, etc. exist in MANY fiction works and have romantic relationships in most. Making an extremely common trope a problem just because you personally don't enjoy it is stupid.

>>93153293
She's an adult woman with those proportions irl. That's hot to me. It wouldn't be hot to me if she was an actual child. Its not that complicated.

>>93153410
But she's doing it under a fucking loli anime rig you imbecile of a man, she's not sucking on lollipops like a Webcam whore does with no anime rig on. The fact she did it under the loli rig is pedoslop especially when said content was to bleed you retards from money.

>>93153408
Why did you write a reply without reading more than half of my post? Are you retarded?
>I can make excuses for it, therefor it's okay!
That's not how it works though. Anyone with any sense can tell the vampire is a child and is depicted the way she is in order to appeal to pedophiles. Same as the snail, and utterly undeniably so in the case of his sister(s). Monogatari works its ass off at making excuses though, giving the MC a girlfriend and another mature love interest sure does distract from the fact that we're depicting having rather intimate interactions with all these characters that look like children :^) Totally not pedophilia, nothing to see here! It's just a body type!

L M A O.

>>93153352
All fandoms sexualise everything in their path, that doesn't mean the original content is sexual. It's not. And the fact that devs call those characters lolis (which is what they are) proves loli doesn't mean inherently sexual.

>>93153391
Not before you write a dissertation on the French revolution.

good thread guys, I just wanted to say that only retarded tourists call the person behind the model a VA

>>93153501
So you can't? thx.

>>93153497
Right, right, because none of the characters in Genshin are remotely sexualised. You can look at Mona and see just a normal character, those animations and such are definitely not meant to be sexualised. And we certainly didn't put child characters in this setting we massively sexualised as a wink wink nudge nudge, because it's certainly not well known that pedophilia shit sells extremely well.

Nope. Nothing to see here, just randomly put small children in here for no reason haha. You cannot be this stupid dude, what the fuck are you pretending for?

>>93153478
Looking like a child doesn't make you a child. Pedophile is someone attracted to children not to a body type. You are literally advocating for calling pedophiles to people attracted to petite adults which is absurd. What makes pedophilia wrong is the fact that children are can't consent and are abused, it's not the fact they are petite.

>>93153547
Ah, so you give up? I guess I win then. Sure is easy to declare a win when giving people random unrelated chores, isn't it?

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>>93153475
Some girls are just small. If they're adults, they're adults.

>>93153580
>What makes pedophilia wrong is the fact that children are can't consent and are abused, it's not the fact they are petite.
The fact that anon confuses these facts is way more concerning imo.

>>93145046
Cause westards hate that word and will hateswarm her like they did to Pikamee

>>93153580
>Pedophile is someone attracted to children not to a body type.
This is the most lame-ass attempt at retarded pedantry you could have tried.
>It only looks like a child and acts like a child there is no way a pedophile would be attracted to this because we arbitrarily announced that they are 30 years of age, and that's the only thing pedophiles concern themselves with!
Like nigger what the fuck are you on about?? Loli isn't a body type beyond "it's a fucking child body and it's being sexualised but it's okay because I *said* she's totally 12451 years old!".

I'm not reading this long ass bitchfit. Point is IRyS shouldn't have to censor herself, loli Mita not "child" Mita. Biboo shouldn't be banning users for saying the word loli if it isn't being spammed, no one here should be bending over to the demands of tourists. Today it's loli, tomorrow the JK girls then the milfs until all you get are gilfs.

>>93153580
insane cope

>>93153668
In the case of vtubers it isn't arbitrary though. They are quite literally real people in their 20s in real life.

>>93153580
>Pedophile is someone attracted to children and not to a body type
You're telling me that if I draw a 36 year old office lady and write that she's 8 years old, pedophiles would be sexually attracted to her? Really? That's what you're trying to suggest? Are you stupid?

>>93153726
Sure, a grown ass woman acting like a child with a child PNG doing sexual things is perfectly fine no worries about it, not pandering to pedos at all :^)

>>93152587
They only gatekeep if "beggars" are anywhere close to their garden, they ignore everyone else that comes in.

>>93153668
Body shaming is suddenly ok if it's about calling petite adults literal children because we want to witch hunt "pedophiles" on the internet to feel good about ourselves instead of protecting real children that are being abused in the real world right now. Nothing about lolis (or even lolicons, which are not the same) harms real children or is even actually connected to real children (have you seen how no anime character ever looks like a real person?). Many lolis are not even underaged characters. But yes, let's concern ourselves with banning words used in fandoms of drawings instead of protecting real children because that makes us such good people.

>>93153800
>Random rant about bodyshaming short women because he got so BTFO
You okay there, schitzo-kun?

>>93146139
>I doubt saying loli is a blacklist term for demonetization,
you can't even say retard, hentai, rape, pedophile or even "sexual assault" without getting demonied on yt
a JP language channel is going to elude scrutiny but an english language channel doesn't get to

>>93153778
>child png
And if they have those proportions in real life? What then? Are they supposed to just live in chastity for the rest of their lives?

>>93145855
>but don't expect everyone to like your kink
lolis are the core of the otaku culture, vtubing is an otaku hobby, and 4chan is also an otaku site btw
you shouldnt be here or watching vtubers if you have a problem with lolis

>>93153778
> a grown ass woman acting like a child with a child PNG doing sexual things is perfectly fine
Yes, it is. No one is harmed by that just like no one is harmed by extreme gore in horror movies. Why aren't you concerned with extreme disgusting violence in horror movies? Oh yeah, because it's not real. Are all horror movie fans psychopaths in real life now? Maybe just don't consume content you don't enjoy and accept that censoring fiction that does no harm just because you don't like it is stupid and extremely self-centred.

>>93153858
>Are they supposed to just live in chastity for the rest of their lives?
yes there's enough whores out there already

>>93153905
>Retard strawman of the day

>>93153585
How is it unrelated? explain your mind gymnastics to me.

>>93153858
I mean they get to do whatever the fuck they want, but the end result is still pandering to pedophiles.

>>93145046
Loli feels sexualised child is innocent

>>93152900
I think she's cool with the loli part, but if her viewers make it obvious that they're all pedos, the fun is over. You have to let things like that stay unspoken or get cancelled.

>>93153949
>I said it so it is implicitly related until you prove otherwise
Not how it works, fagotty. Why haven't you started by explaining how it's related instead of demanding I do your job for you?

>>93153934
Explain how that is a strawman argument.

>>93153975
In simpleton terms; she doesn't want people to say the quiet part out loud.

>>93154004
Nobody was talking about "harm" in the first place.
>This is pedophilia
>"No it's not!!"
>Yes, it is, and here's why.
>"IT ISN'T HARMING ANYONE?"
The last statement has nothing to do with the ongoing conversation.

>>93154004
It's not, when presented with good arguments they just discard them and call the one disagreeing with them a pedo because pedo now means "someone that doesn't agree with me" and not "someone attracted to children". It enfuriates me because I bet in a couple of years no one will take real pedophile accusations seriously or care about it because of morons like this that are diluting the meaning of the word to try to win arguments.

>>93154060
Pedophilia is sexual attraction to CHILDREN. How do you not understand that an adult is NEVER a child? If you pretend you are a cat on stream, does that make you a cat and your audience a zoophile? NO.

>>93154004
You just compared movies to someone doing dick sucking noises sucking on lollipops under a loli png to justify it. That is why is such a bullshit strawman of argument. Thats comparing apples to fucking oranges and saying is the same lmao you are mentally ill. Seek help.

>>93154081
>Noooo people attracted to children aren't real pedophiles! Stop properly calling us out I mean diluting the meaning of the word!
A pedophile isn't a child rapist by definition, hell a large percentage of child rapists aren't actually pedophiles (they can also just be sadists or otherwise) That's what you should be trying to argue for. This absurd blabbering about how being attracted to children doesn't make you a pedophile is completely ridiculous.

>>93154160
So it's okay if it's in a movie? kek

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>>93145046
>>93145078
>reading actual game script is being "woke"
OP is a retard, fuck you and your samefag, this is officially a shit thread.
DO NOT REPLY
anyone who posts after me has AIDS

>>93154120
Ah, so if I'm attracted to a drawing of two men having sex, I'm not gay because they're just pictures? That's how it works, right? It doesn't matter what's being depicted, it just matters what's behind the depiction!

If I watch a porn of a schoolgirl getting railed by a teacher I'm not sexually attracted to the idea of schoolgirls being railed by teachers, I'm sexually attracted to actors pretending to be schoolgirls being railed by teachers! Yeah that makes total fucking sense you absolute braindead retard!

>>93154171
People attracted to children are real pedophiles. People that enjoy loli characters are not and I would argue that people attracted to loli characters are not either because a loli may not even be underaged and even if it is it's so completely different from real children I don't even think that counts. Have you ever seen real children? They are not lolis, don't look or even act like them.

>>93154238
>I'm sexually attracted to actors pretending to be schoolgirls being railed by teachers!
unironically yes?????

>>93154160
Your IQ is so low analogies don't work with you

>>93154256
>Loli is literally defined as a sexualised child
>People attracted to children are pedophiles
>People attracted to loli are not pedophiles
Find the one statement above that doesn't fit the others. This is an question an elementary school child could solve.

Sorry to break it to you anon, but if you like loli characters then you are, by definition, a pedophile. Just as if you were a homosexual if you were attracted to yaoi.

>>93154238
>if I'm attracted to a drawing of two men having sex, I'm not gay because they're just pictures?
Fujos are all homosexuals I guess.

>>93154273
Ah. So you're genuinely retarded. Good to know. Here I thought you were merely doing performative sophistry.

>>93154322
>Anon discovers that changing the context of a sentence can change it's meaning and can't wait to try it himself
How adorable, maybe soon he'll achieve proper sentience!

>>93154238
> if I'm attracted to a drawing of two men having sex, I'm not gay because they're just pictures
Maybe. You can be attracted to fiction without being attracted to the situation presented in reality. Also, how realistic is the drawing? An anime man is very very VERY different from a real man.

I am attracted to several things in fiction that disgust me in reality. Do you think all women that enjoy rape fantasies want to be raped for real?

>>93154343
Women who are into cnc don't actually want to get raped. Fantasy is fantasy.

>>93154306
>Loli is literally defined as a sexualised child
That's your definition, not the reality. Loli is a character trope in Japanese media defined by a body type regardless of actual age or even behaviour.

>>93154400
>Maybe. You can be attracted to fiction without being attracted to the situation presented in reality
Indeed. But if I'm attracted to a fictional depiction of rape then you still call that a rape fetish. The fact that your morality can override your base instincts and attractions causing disgust where you would otherwise be aroused doesn't mean you aren't naturally attracted to it. You'd still be a pedophile.

>>93154431
>I will change the meaning of a word because I don't like the association!
Cool story dog
>It's a body type!
Okay, and how would you describe that body type? Let me help you and take a swing at it first: A body with child-like proportions

Oh, well that doesn't sound any better whatsoever, does it?

>>93145046
they literally forced Gura to remove "Cute and Funny" from a stream title, the Blue Archive one

>>93154306
You managed to "quote" three false statements in a row, good job Mr.Retard.

>>93154492
I really don't think lolis look or act like real children just like I don't think furry characters look or act like real animals. I'm pretty sure it's a different kind of attraction at play there and not a morality censorship going on.

>>93154543
Those aren't quotes, newfag, and nice job dodging the point, faggot. Guess that proves you have no rebuttal, then?

>>93153778
This but unironically.

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Saito Tamaki the psychiatrist gave me an example; there's an artist who is drawing fiction, and this fiction is something that they desire. I look at the picture it's a caterpillar, the caterpillar looks to have a male face, it's a cute youthful looking face, that caterpillar then encounters another caterpillar, and the two are depicted having sex. What am I to do about this? They appear to be boys, they appear to be young, they are caterpillars. Ok, how do we interpret this? And he says it would be a kind of gross reduction to assume that we knew what this means when if you have a photograph, a photograph is something that is actually here so if you take a picture of a young person engaged in a sexual context you are in fact taking a photograph of something that actually exists, of a crime, of an abuse, of a sexualization objectivation of a person. What about the caterpillar? That is not an arbitrary distinction, in fact, that caterpillar and that child are not the same thing, they are qualitatively fundamentally different things. The people drawing and consuming the caterpillar are not the same circulating the little girl's photos.

>>93154532
I didn't change the meaning of the word, that's the meaning used in otaku culture, anime and Japanese games.

Being child-like is not being a child and yes, it does make it better. Many adults are child-like in many ways and will not be ok with being called children.

>>93151867
holy shit get the fuck out you niggers. Where the fuck did you came from? Why are you even in this hobby if you fucking despise otaku culture so much

>>93154575
>I really don't think
That's really the only true part of your post. Anon it's fucking retarded to try and argue that a depiction of a child isn't depicting a child because you think it doesn't look realistic enough. Most hentai shit isn't "real" people, are you suggesting that means the people that jack off to it aren't attracted to real people either? 3DPD isn't actually a thing you dumb fuck, it's a dumb meme that is apparently older than you are.

>>93154610
Your aguing ability stopped evolving before you finished High School. Off with you.
4chan arguing like Twitter did 3 years ago ; nuke this board pls.

>>93154663
>Otaku culture tries to obfuscate the actual meaning of the word because they don't like being called out on being pedophiles, therefor their cope is an actual real and legit definition!
Lmao.

>>93154690
Nah, fuck you absolutely you pedo fuck, pretending otaku culture is defined by pedophilia holy fuck get all the way the fuck outta here forever you disgusting wretch.

>>93154719
>Just spouting infantile attempts at insulting the other poster and does nothing to address the topic
Yeah buddy, the other guy is the one arguing like a child :^)

>>93146028
Ok then ban Gura.

>>93154711
>are you suggesting that means the people that jack off to it aren't attracted to real people either?
There is an increasing number of people that are not and that are only attracted to fictional characters. If you prefer hentai over real porn, I'm pretty sure your attraction is more towards the style than people even. It's actually a big problem in society nowadays, people are not attracted to real humans anymore.

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>>93154790
Tourist.

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>>93154790
Go back to rebbit bro

>>93154843
Right, next you'll tell me being gay is a choice being made by an increasing number of people, because sexual preference is elective.

>>93154060
>This is pedophilia
But it isn't cuz lolis are adolescents, not children. idk what's with our state of education, people seem to think a 7-yr-old is the same as a 17-yr-old.

>>93154851
And there you have it ladies and gents, Otaku culture is defined by pedophilia. Case closed.

>>93154288
>muh iq
Seek help pedo.

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You know, it certainly doesn't help this board that there are so many nasty ironic otaku women infesting here. Those types are always hating loli. I'd bet that's where a lot of hate comes from here.

>>93154750
Why is the definition others use cope and not yours? I may say you are the one coping because you dislike the content and want it gone so you accuse others of a real crime or real disease to try to get it banned. That's exactly what boomers tried to do with violent video games, how did that work out for them?

>>93154895
>Lolis are adolescents
>And adolescents aren't children despite the literal definition attributing the concept to someone "in the process of" growing from a child to an adult!
Lmao this is somehow still the biggest cope in a thread full of absurd copes. Well done anon.

>>93154971
>I have to invent a narrative about you to still engage in the conversation
Here's a hint anon: That means you don't have an argument and you just lose.

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>>93154160
Justify?
There's no justification needed. Not your hobby tourist.

>>93154894
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You can't choose to be gay just like you can't choose to only be attracted to anime girls. I don't know why people are less attracted to real humans, but it's not their choice.

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>>93154948
Yamato, Gundam, and lolicon are the three booms that formed Otaku culture in the early days. Most of the fandom around those days was centered around these three, Miyazaki's early success is also thanks to lolicon/Bishojo fans, people were obsessed with Clarissa and Nausica. So yeah if you are too retarded to understand loli is not CP you may as well fuck off because everything you consume is derivative from early lolicons to some extent.

>>93153010
it should've been me

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>>93153879
>lolis are the core of the otaku culture

>>93155049
You are inventing narratives about otaku culture from the start so I don't see why I cannot. You don't enjoy being mirrored?

>>93155131
>>93154851

>>93155080
Pedophilia is not a hobby you fucking creep.

>>93152698
Loli is not tied to age but a body type and personality. If not than Gura is not a loli but Bae (12) would be.

>>93145046
You are completely wrong, she wanted to clarify that she wants to fuck a child not a petite small woman

If you are going to hate on lolis, you shouldn't watch anime or VTubers. That's like going to a candy store and getting upset there's gummy bears there. What the fuck did you expect? This hobby isn't for you clearly and every anime or VTubing fan sees you as a complete outsider. You literally do not belong and will never belong>>93155181
.

>>93155185
sure, it isn't, but that is not a pedophilia. There is a difference between fiction and reality.
The nr 1 fantasy for women is getting raped but most women don't actually want to get raped by someone.

>>93154238
>'I'm sexually attracted to actors pretending to be schoolgirls being railed by teachers! Yeah that makes total fucking sense you absolute braindead retard'
why are f*males literally unable to distinguish fantasy from reality

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>>93155131
First hentai ever?
Lolita anime (genre lolicon)
First VN ever?
Lolita syndrome (genre lolicon)
Daicon 3?
Can you describe to me this character?

>>93152732
>even smaller Gura
IMAGINE

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>>93155185
>you fucking creep
Your words have no power here wench!

>>93155132
>Doubling down after losing
Weird choice but feel free to keep it up.

>>93155359
because they often live in delulu world so for them it's hard to make a distinction

>>93155359
Don't make this a gender issue. I'm arguing against anon from the start, they are just dumb AF and a complete tourist in otaku culture that probably only got into VTubing because it's popular now.

>>93155010
I didn't expect there to be a big enough coping retard to deny the existence of adolescents based on misconstruing the definition of a transitional period.

>>93155423
It's not a gender issue, it's a tourist issue.

>>93154223
>reading the game script
The game never calls her "Child Mita", you insufferable larping melanoid chimp.
The game calls her "Tiny Mita" and it doesn't do it until after this scene. Irys was not reading from the game's text or script. She called her "loli mita" and then immediately corrected herself to "child mita". OP is 100% correct and not a faggot in this one particular instance.

>>93155361
>he thinks Otaku means porn brained rotted idiots.

>>93155405
>proud of being a pedo
No shame

>>93148095
I'm not about to use google but does it really do that? Like give you a warning?

>>93155546
You think otaku means "only what I personally enjoy because I am the most important person in the world and everything is about me me me and my wants and my needs and my tastes and everything else should be banned because I say so".

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You're all getting worked up over IRyS being ironic. OP is a faggot and you're all getting baited by a tourist when you could just say "I don't care if you're right or wrong. Fuck off and don't come back."

>>93155359
>can't distinguish fantasy from reality.
>can't distinguish child from teenager.
>can't distinguish rape from sex.
This is why women were last to get the right to vote (and that was a mistake).

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>>93155574
Shame tactics literally will not work here. And no, you can't downvote me. Go back to rebbit.
Fucking idiots where do you get off trying to be moralizers on 4chan.

>>93153005
This.

>>93155609
I think this thread stopped being about her 10 posts in. Just the usual loli argument now until the thread dies.

>>93154238
>Ah, so if I'm attracted to a drawing of two men having sex, I'm not gay because they're just pictures? That's how it works, right?
That's literally exactly how it works. You realize that shit is made by and for straight women, right?

>>93154894
The reason human sexuality is not a choice is because free will doesn't exist. If you believe free will exists in your magical religious sense even though it doesn't in any real sense, then yes, sexual preference is a choice.

>>93155629
>first thing they do is try to ban alcohol
Yep.

>>93155691
Looking at how fast anons are at making yet another post about this junk it won't be up for much longer. People love meaningless arguments. I'd know, I'm bored and I'm reading through this mess lmao

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>>93155546
>Gainax is porn brained rotted idiots
Daicon 3 and 4.
This is an OUT poster featuring Miyazaki heroines, those are the people supporting early Miyazaki, they were not intellectuals or western pseuds, they were lolicons. Clarisse Magazine was a lolicon magazine named after the female lead in the castle of cagliostro.

At the bus stop 1980 Hideaki Anno
https://youtu.be/sP7QcDk_p4E

>Osamu Tezuka: Maybe it looks like I follow various fads such as the lolicon boom, but I just utilize them. I have never thematized lolicon itself, right?
>I utilize them
Prime Rose and Don Dracula both have loli characters. Uran was also sometimes included in lolicon material >>93155117

>>93145046
>clipwatcher

>>93155819
fucking Tezuka
such a bitch

>>93150399
You can't even have a loli model on twitch without being banned for "child endangerment", you /lig/nigger ball-less retard.

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>>93155819
You reminded me of Tomino saying he doesn't want Char to have some crusty old pussy, in almost those exact words, in some interview.
What a guy he is. I'm not sure where to find it though.

>>93155925
I think he's talking about Nanai's pussy in some CCA related interview or something like that

>>93152288
Child porn is not legal in Japan. And possession was made illegal in 2014.
Drawings are not child porn and the illustrated artwork that is legal in Japan is also legal in the US and many other western countries.

>>93154638
This is has to be the most pathetic and retarded mental gymnastic apologetics for lolicon I have seen in a while and it's even funnier because its supposed credibility hinges solely on the fact that the person who made it has a PhD.

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>>93155925
Yeah...
>Katejina has big boobs cause she is one of THEM

>>93152560
There's nothing wrong with that.
And boy, you're in for a surprise when you realize Shion and Haachama did actual ASMR on their hololive channels that is still available when they were 16 years old IRL.

>>93156106
KEK

>>93154638
While I do agree that lolicon is nothing bad I also agree with >>93156100. That was one of the most retarded comparison I've heard in my life.

>>93155655
>Muh plebbit pls
Turn yourself in

>>93145046
The word 'loli' bad for business anon, unless you wanna watch Irys getting raided by random Twitter activist it doesn't matter that much, it's better to watch her in peace rather than having to deal with those Twitter cancel monger

>>93156376
You might be surprised but he won't get put under an arrest because he didn't go anything illegal.

>>93152944
Sora said she likes the part of shonen anime when the protagonist struggles and fights through painful experiences, and shows emotion to the people he cares about and is comforted by them.
So she said that maybe she has more of an S than an M personality type after Marine suggested that she might be an M.
Catalog retards simplified this to: Sora loves seeing little boys in pain.

>>93152698
She wanted to call her fans pebblephiles

>>93153253
>jokes on you, I was cherrypicking!
Hmm. I think you might not be as smart as you think you are, anon.

>>93145046
pedolive faggots on suicide watch

>>93153293
I guess "pedoslop" = the most popular anime content then. Considering her ASMR has millions of views and the most popular vtuber song is literally loli-themed.

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>>93145046
LET'S FEED THIS LIL' NI-

>>93156106
bravo tomino...

fuck EN
fuck America

>>93153668
didn't know that the pants on the head retards that run the australian goverment come here
may you be eaten alive by spiders

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>>93156106
>Katejina is jewish
>Katejina is the villian and the most evil character in Victory

>>93153318
One of the main characters in An Interview with a Vampire, a famous hollywood movie starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt, is also a small girl that was transformed as a child. And it's implied she has sex.
Bakemonogatari is not the first fictional work to feature this trope. But you wouldn't know that because you're an uncultured piece of shit with a similar complexion.

>>93153475
So your argument is that such content is not a bad thing? I guess we agree then, even if you call it something strange.

>>93156097
>Drawings are not child porn and the illustrated artwork that is legal in Japan is also legal in the US and many other western countries
In De Jure sense maybe, but in De Facto sense not so much since regardless of the result your reputation won't survive and you might even get a bunch of unwanted follower to put it simply

>>93156827
Valerie and her week of wonders has some shots of nude from the protagonist who is a 13-year-old girl. The whole story is about her sexual awakening. Funnily enough, that film is NOT banned in Australia or Canada.

>>93153563
>a child character at the beach in a swimsuit is a sexualized child
This is the mind of an actual pedophile.

Why are there so many anons arguing with twitter activists? Is everyone really that bored?

>>93157005
Because some people doesn't understand the concept of Self-Preservation

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>>93153668
>This is the most lame-ass attempt at retarded pedantry you could have tried.
NTA. In an effort to guage whether you are morally consistent, which is the worse fictional scenario in your opinion?
Being attracted to a character like Shinobu from Bakemonogatari, a 900 year old vampire trapped in the body of a 9 year-old.
OR
Being attracted to a character like Dizzy from Guilty Gear, a 5-7 year old trapped in the body of a 20+ year old adult woman.

There is a correct answer to this question, however you will fail because you're a retarded cretin.

>>93153694
I don't think biboo ever banned anyone saying loli unless they were spamming it or being weird

>>93157005
/vt/ is a weird board. It's far from your regular 4chan content. A lot of fags here would never use this website, if not for the reason there is no other place to actually talk about vtubers. Due to that it's infested with redditor, xitter people etc.

>>93157316 (me)
Damn. I know I'm tired, but this is ESL as fuck. My bad

>>93154238
I am being completely serious when I say this:
The most dangerous people to society are not nerds liking japanese cartoons, but those that can't tell the difference between reality and fiction. If anyone should be locked up because they are a danger to others, it is you, anon.

>>93157227
NTA
the correct answer is neither because one is vampire scum and the other is gear scum
HUMANITY NUMERO UNO
UNIVERSAL WILL IS A SHIT
FUCK THAT MAN

>>93149763
>Bans anyone mentioning and memeing about lolis
why are you lying?

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>>93156100
>>93156342
Maybe you should read a book?

>>93145046
People in this thread are complete faggots. If you aren't ok with loli's, please fuck off from the hololive community and vutbing in general. Go back to your western dogshit trash and leave the rest of the people with an IQ higher than 80 to enjoy it without you ruining it.

>>93155359
Half of the artists that draw loli hentai are women. Not being able to tell fantasy from reality isn't a female issue. It's a western woman issue.

>>93155574
When you start to define being a pedophile as one who breathes air, I think you'll begin to discover that people will stop holding negative views of the word. Imagine that.

>>93157682
Great reference and extremely relevant in cases like this

>>93157227
BTW, the correct answer is that either scenario is okay because it's not fucking real.

>>93157805
That's still wrong, a lot of western women defend loli. It's a low IQ, no education, no humility and tourist issue.

>>93145046
If you're not from japan I really don't care what you think of loli, positive or negative.

>>93145046
>corrupted
You're retarded. Most of the world barely knows you exist, and to the extend they do they just want your money.

>>93158139
I suppose, however most of the people on twitter that I see that are most against loli characters are either retarded teenagers, western women, or blacks/latinos posting goku memes.

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>>93158123
so it would be okay if it was real?

>>93158546 (me)
wait sorry i misread

>>93158580
*bonk*

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>>93154638
OHH WAIT

it's the dude that wrote beautiful fighting girl
I knew I remembered that name

>>93156968
it's always projection by them, the argument always boils down to "Children should be covered up so I'm not having sexual thoughts about them"
same mentalitry as sand people with women in general

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>>93153475
Gura gave me a blowjob and you're mad about it.

>>93157682
To be fair it takes a really high IQ to defend pedophilia.

>>93159052
Or a really low IQ to ignorantly and unreasonably call everything pedophilia/Hitler.

>>93148095
Based. But yeah, what does it do, give you a warning?
I know looking up suicide methods gives you a 'warning' to seek help instead.

>>93152052
>>93152416
>>>/r/eddit

Another day another pedophile melty

>>93159570
'Judgements are based on what is, with reference to what should be - the kingdom of heaven, eternal concepts, or moral imperatives. But what should be does not exist: and this world cannot be judged in the name of nothing. "The advantages of our times; nothing is true, everything is permitted"'.

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>>93159631
>quoting a French philosopher
Not helping your case

>>93159631
Pedo still melting lmao

>>93159712
'The bad acts which most disturb us at present do so because of the erroneous supposition that the one who is guilty of them towards us has a free will in the matter and that it was within his discretion not to have done these evil things. This belief in discretionary power inspires hate, thirst for revenge, malice, the entire perversion of the mental processes, whereas we would feel in no way incensed against the brute, as we hold it irresponsible. To inflict pain not from the instinct of self preservation but in requital—this is the consequence of false judgment and is equally a guiltless course of conduct. The individual can, in that condition which is anterior to the state, act with fierceness and violence for the intimidation of another creature, in order to render his own power more secure as a result of such acts of intimidation. Thus acts the powerful, the superior, the original state founder, who subjugates the weaker. He has the right to do so, as the state nowadays assumes the same right, or, to be more accurate, there is no right that can conflict with this'.

>>93159634
I would reply no to all those questions, it's a low IQ issue.

>>93145046
>watch Pekora's latest FGO stream
>'I want loli; loli, loli, loli; come oooon loli'

>>93159634
traps aren't gay you redditfag

>>93159634
Equivocating anime adolescents to real prepubescents is why you look like a tard screaming about "literally Hitler".

>>93161055
>adolescents to prepubescents
What in the strawmen are you on about?

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>>93159634
Does fapping to this character make me a homosexual?

>>93161727
thats a male child so you are a gay pedophile

>>93160839
>>93152509

>>93161798
Astolfo is not a child lol.

>>93161985
>le 23334556yo xdd totally not a child guise even if it looks exactly like one

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>>93161798
So you're going by literal definitions rather than looks? (because Astolfo looks like a girl). So fapping to this is okay, since she is 1000 years old.

>>93162089
If you're going based on looks, then it's not gay because Astolfo looks like a girl.
Which is it? Looks or exact definition?

>>93162167
its a child, you are a pedo. the gay is just extra

>>93162205
If you're going based on looks, then it's not gay because Astolfo looks like a girl.
Which is it? Looks or exact definition?

>>93162280
its a child, could be either because children are like that.
its just seems you are both a pedo in denial and a homosexual in denial coping