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How does one avoid spiritual narcissism?
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>>37724848
Getting fucked hard by karma helps.
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>>37724848
refuse
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pray/do devotions privately and perform clean actions publicly and quietly. for the most part, i've seen "spiritual narcissism" as just another lame ad hominem.
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>>37724848
I think this is one aspect of spirituality that is quite difficult because once you start to attain actual, serious spiritual knowledge it does feel good and I can see how some people could fall into the trap of narcissism. I think to avoid this it's important to make sure that thoughts of compassion, gratitude, forgiveness and humility are acknowledged daily. We may surpass some people on the path, but there will always be people further along than ourselves, just as we should look to those more advanced than ourselves as teachers, we should also see ourselves as teachers to those who know less than we. Nobody likes or resepects those wrapped up in narcissism, when we stray into self indulgent thought we should always ask ourselves if this is how we expect an enlightened/awakened/whatever you want to call it master to behave. If the answer is no then self reflection should take place. I also think it's useful to regularly meditate or pray over what your idealised spiritual version of yourself looks like, then if your behaviour doesn't line up with that image you know you need to change it.
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>>37724848
avoid talking to anyone because they just bring you down to their level
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>>37724912
The closer you come to the truth, the more is the possibility of going astray, because when you come closer to the truth, you can become very egoistic: that ’Now I know,’ that ’Now I am.’ And if the ego exploits the situation you will fall back to your old dark valley, you will lose the peak. When you come closer to the truth, a great desire arises to share it with people. But you have not attained it in its wholeness; and it is dangerous to share half-truths because half-truths are more dangerous than lies, because they are powerful. Lies are impotent. Sooner or later people will themselves find that it is a lie. But the half-truth can persist for centuries, can have effects for centuries.
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>>37724915
At the same time the more I isolate from people the more I feel a tinge of narcissism develop in my spiritual pursuits
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>>37724848
>Spiritual narcissism
It's just a grifter anon.
Don't give them your money.
Simple as.
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>>37724930
some of us are just chosen to be above the rest. it just is dont think to much about it.
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>>37724915
If you want to talk to a bird, be a bird, if you want to have fun with a cat, be a cat.
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>>37724944
>some of us are just chosen to be above the rest. it just is dont think to much about it.
>NGRGN
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>>37724925
Not many truer words have been spoken on /x/, I imagine you must be very wise.
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>>37724848
Realize that women are 98% surface-level and do things solely for attention, which is why every ancestral religion in Europe basically said "Don't trust women."
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>>37724858
+1
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>>37724848
Be older than 25 and/or not autistic
Simple as
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>>37724848
listen to Krishnamurti. His earlier stuff (prior to the 70s/80s) is the most accessible, imho.
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>>37724848
most people aren't sincere. i think it is worse when younger because when younger there are pressures to become something, so you identify with spirituality and the vision of what kind of spiritual person you will be. Ambition plays a part, where you think you're going to be some kind of guru, and you want to stand out. It is all completely fake.

I think that spirituality is more real after middle age, because you no longer harbor absurd delusions about becoming a teacher and getting known for anything.

the desire to become and want to be known for something is completely against spirituality. That's really what spiritual narcissism is.
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>>37724848
>I was chillin in the mountains of Peru
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>>37725023
I don't want to become well known for anything. I despise the spotlight and am clearly no master at anything nor do I believe anyone is ever a true spiritual "guru". However, when I am around people who aren't spiritually inclined I can't help but feel bored and on some level superior. Base pleasures, materialism, and banal subject matters no longer appeal to me. Am I an egotist for feeling like I have to be fake around such people and censor myself? Maybe I am just an autist
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>>37724951
I wish i were a bird
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>>37725102
>I can't help but feel bored and on some level superior.
Gross.
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>>37724848
she does pron
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>>37724912
Don't be afraid of spiritual narcissism, if the seeker is honest the constant feedback (drama, hate) will realign the seeker.
Honestly spiritual cucks have it worse, no one reflects their misalignment. Who tells kind and humble person he is full of shit with his spiritual ego.
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>>37724848
ez

accept that you're probably wrong about everything and approach everything with an open mind
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>>37725441
at this point. if a chick doesnt shes passing up on free money
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>>37724848
Why does she look so evil.
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Literally just realise that your spiritual path does not make you better than anybody. It just makes you different. Given enough time, with the right circumstances, somebody else will one day be in your spot. It is humbling because it means everyone is the same anyway.
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>>37724848
There's no such thing as spiritual narcissism. There's only narcissism.
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>>37724848
A wise man needs only a leaf, a fool needs a garden
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>>37724848
i would let her beat the living shit out of me just to taste her bathwater
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>>37725102
>Am I an egotist for feeling like I have to be fake around such people and censor myself?

yes
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>How does one avoid spiritual narcissism?

don't talk about your self

stop carrying about what you did for others or any thing your proud of.
keep it simple.
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>>37724848
who is this and why do i keep seeing her?
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>>37724848
don't be gnostic. and what's with "spiritual" women being the same retarded whores as other women
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>>37727426
Shanin Blake
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>>37724848
Looking at this thing made me violently ill.
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>>37725023
wiser words have not been written on this thread.
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I want to be a woman
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>>37727669
thats an unchecked ego if i ever saw one.
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>>37727873
like about everyone on this planet
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>>37727873
>we need to ruin her spirit
incel take. we need to give her more mushrooms
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>>37727873
>>37728130
>>37728239
at least her 'ego' comes in a sexy pornographic fashion
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>>37728309
exactly what i was thinking. what good are depressed neet egos? at least she can cause some satisfaction to others
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>>37728334
she spreads foreign cancerous dogma like wildfire
however, she is sexually appealing
would the devil himself not spawn as a sexy lady to reach you, were it known to the evil what draws your eye from your heart?
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>>37724951
Dude, everybody wants to be a cat
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>>37728359
The devil takes on many forms it seems
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>>37728374
it could be you for all I know
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>>37727669
why is this a thing. she looks gross as fuck. what are the spiritual implications of this
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>>37724848
I personally don't understand how to even arrive at that point if you're taking psychedelics like she does. The first times I took LSD, I felt every molecule in my room conscious and observing me, and all of the cliche stuff hippies said in the 60's made perfect intuitive sense. It felt impossible to twist it into negative ways.

Maybe it stems from what you're trying to seek. I went into it ready to be humbled, and that was exactly what I got. You usually hear about egoistic people and others malevolent traits being 'beat up' pretty bad from psychedelics, whether thats LSD, DMT, or others. Maybe if its deep or ingrained enough, your mind even in an extreme altered state can't detach itself from it, or otherwise have the perspective to see things differently.

Am I making sense?
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heh, your perspective on the universe was made fundamentally narcissistic. you are the observer.

blind. god wins.
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>>37724848
Get offline, keep your practices personal and private. Don't be a cunt to others for their practices.
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you're allowed to have an ego, ego-death is temporary, even in masters.

just don't be a boomer about it, you can still be considerate of everything else around you, it's also you.
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you think jehovah is egoless? you think satan is egoless? what the fuck are you people doing, are you even thinking about this critically?

you're allowed to do what you want, and that includes like yourself and do mushrooms and wear an ammonite, which is by the way, an ultra secret symbol from the cult that will destroy america
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>>37728359
she has an onlyfans
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>>37728482
It's an act. She's selling something.
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yeah, i made all the women and black people do this shit to fuck with you. i am god and it fucking rocks
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>>37727669
I wish I could dress like a world of warcraft druid and pull it off
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>>37724848
>How does one avoid spiritual narcissism?
Have a huge ego
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>>37728526
Yeah I know, plus an OF. Convos about her made the rounds on Twitter a couple weeks ago all about this stuff. Whats unclear to me though is if its just that simple. She makes all kinds of songs and stuff, I honestly believe she is doing psychedelics. I just don't understand the disconnect.

nsfw warning, one of her songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j1HvXBadN4
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this is basically a normal outfit in the good parts of the pacific northwest. i don't see the issue please do more LSD
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>>37728559
>I will never be a wise sage tree that dispenses wisdom to hobbits
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Narcissism is a byroduct of self awareness, self awareness is just a simulation of the mind to read people thoughts because we evolved as highly sociable.
i strongly believe we're all narcissist to some varying degree, maybe psychopaths are an exception, i don't know.
self awareness also come with empathy in most cases so it's not intrisically bad.
It's not the be all and end all of evolution so maybe one day we'll be able to live without narcissism.
In the meantime we have psychedelics for ego death.
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god seems to like to party for some reason?? wear what she wants?? what
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Remember me by my contempt...
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There's always an Asian better than you.
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>>37724848
Keep youe practices on yourself and be always ready to change your views instead relying blindly on dogma.

Also avoid thots that base their "spirituality" on their trinket collection and are active on social media. Constant fake smiling is also often dead giveaway.
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>>37728632
Found the narcissist. Inability to see the destructive behavior's effects on others.
She's a dogshit ethot giving you permission to indulge your narcissism because
>muh empowerment
literally nothing ITT relates to x other than she is a giant fake. Buy an ad
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>>37728878
I don't give a shit about that ethot or any other selfie addicted brain.
I just expressed my thoughts on the subject.
Abnegation is a double edged sword, letting you at the mercy of the intentions of other.
I think it's a fine balance between selflessness and a healthy self esteem.
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>>37724848
New agers were a mistake. They tuned spirituality into a shitty cartoon.
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>>37724848
If you look like that you aren't into spirituality, simple as
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Attain great seal become universal sovereign
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>>37724848
>How does one avoid spiritual narcissism?
falling keeps you humble :)
can a brother get a yee?
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>>37728359
>>37728524
The leaks I saw are really lame actually
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>>37724848
Understand that the ego is always a part of any being that interacts on this planet. Your ego is literally just all your experiences combined. Your ego is why you prefer chocolate or chips, why you use 4chan or reddit, wether you like driving or biking to work.

Your ego is just the unconscious part of your brain that goes "ive seen this, heard this, and dislike this, therfore i should believe and do this". Either you work with it or deny it and work against it. No matter what its always there and always has final say in anything on the material plane.

One of the most dangerous things you can do is believe in ego death on the material plane. Its not possible, its like gaming without a screen or keyboard. The ego is a necessity here. Those """spiritualists""" who have fried themselves and think they dont have an ego do have one. Their ego picked out the tie dye shirt they have, it picked their piercings and wether or not they should have tattoos. Its even convinced the mind that it itself doesnt exist. A person without an ego would be more mindless than a monkey, shitting the moment they have the impulse and eating anything colorful. Your ego is literally the firmware of your exoteric interface with the material world.
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We turned spirituality into finely-tuned symphony that took over the internet using metagrams, travelled through time, replaced our refrigerators with pyramids, and are about to undertake an infinity journey of breathtaking brilliance under the guidance of the crystal people.

The most exciting thing possible is actually true.
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>>37724848
Why do people have such a hate boner for that bitch? Like, who gives a shit. She's not harming anyone.
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>>37724951
YWNBAC
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>>37731724
She gets attention because she's pretty and people want to fuck her. That's basically it. I don't think anyone hates her, it's just that, by now, we've seen a million exact models of her kind pass through the world, and it always end badly.
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>>37724848
I just know that her pussy smells so fucking disgusting it'll even put you to your death
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>>37731855
>monkey sees image
>want coom
normalize getting a boner from an orderly good spirit
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>>37724848
You try your best.
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>>37728518
>ammonite
>cult that will destroy America
Please go on prometheus
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>>37731936
there's an underground cult tracing back to the pharaohs possessing the true arcana and they've indeed summoned sekhmet
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>>37728526
>>37728584
And what is she claiming to be and do? You are reading into how she looks.
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>>37724930
There is no escape, We're bound to suffer, Talk to people and you'll be mean, Do not talk you'll be a narcissist.
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>>37731885
>me making an accurate observation means I want to fuck her
I have standards, sorry.
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>>37725102
True enlightenment is finding the supreme in the mundane. You're not listening deeply enough.
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>>37731855
>she's pretty
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>>37731855
i want to see her head crushed in a hydraulic press
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>>37724848
She is only just an algorithm. Not a real person.
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>>37732164
>goes into incel rage instead of admitting he wants to fuck her
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>>37732164
You are capable of dying by that which you have inflicted suffering on others.
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>>37732246
i wouldn't fuck her with your dick
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>>37724915
Lately i just pretend to listen and look at them until they get bored and leave. Most just talk to themselves. I do the same, really
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>>37724858
karma has been fucking me up since i was 5 years old so its time for me to lube karma's ass and do some fucking of my own
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>>37727669
ungodly slut i must not impregnate immediately
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>>37731961
>occult nerds are slaying wicked hot catgirl slash
>Basically we're all fucking retarded
I hate these bastards like you wouldn't believe
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>>37733377
check'd n kek'd
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>>37724848
Idk bro self love is sort of the idea behind altruistic tendency and empathy.
Love another as you'd love yourself.
Maybe its just a perspective thing
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>>37724848
uh, be humble? you think as a tiny human you know it all? lmao
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>>37724965
Lucifer told me to type
"who can it be now"
buh buh daaaaa da da
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>>37733377
It's so crusty
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As many anons pointed out, the world has a way of keeping those humble and "in check". Mind the ambient vibe of my own place. Some work with this energy and get seen from differing perspectives as "narcissistic" but when an idol is needed or wanted one will be found. Maybe its less a spiritual narcissist and more of a spiritual rock or spire.
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>>37724925
This hits home by a lot. Thanks for making the post.
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>>37728334
>>37728359
>>37728524
>>37731093
Reminder that succubi are still very real
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>>37736250
>incel afraid of girls
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>>37736351
I'm not afraid of women, I'm afraid of demons who happen to take the shape of women
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>>37736354
Demons are invisible to your eyes, that is a female human.
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>>37736367
Not that guy,
But you might have a lot to learn about demons.
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I truly deeply despise everything this whore stands for. Something something grifter reproduction cycle. She's been conned by Blavatskyite RETARDS and will go on to implant the same dogshit ideas in other vulnerable morons' brains like a spiritual tapeworm. Hope she gets raped all the way to death at some degen music festival.
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>>37736399
The only thing you know about demons is what your paranoia and fear tell you.
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>>37736367
>>37736513
Sounds like something a demon would say
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>>37736354
>>37736399
What makes you think she has anything to do with demons? Be precise please.
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>>37736568
who?
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>>37728504
Hey look I found a retarded cunt.
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>decide to look up who the fuck this bitch is
>first thing that pops up is here being in controversy for cultural appropriation
Of course a woman that looks like that would have retarded women following her worried about that shit.
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shes got a really nice ass
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>>37724848
yet another rich kid larping as earthy. i just ignore these people because their power is surface level. also her house is a fucking mess and she has a fucking pre-teen daughter living in this shit. get your life together woman omfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN_PIHxUXTs
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Taking drugs and being one with the cosmos and speaking le deep shit isnt spirituality. These types after they come down from their drugs will be moody bitches.

Real spirituality is based on a strong moral framework where cause and effect/karma is respected, with a selfless attitude towards the greater good. Knowledge, reason, wisdom. Getting wasted on acid and feeling le vibrations is a pathway to dark and unwitting witchcraft.
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>>37724848
reward for raising kundalini is a dmt trip and upgraded dna (allegedly; i'm too chickenshit to do it myself)
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Speak less and listen more
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idk I think it's pretty spiritual to just let people do whatever the fuck they want
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>>37724848
>spiritual narcissism

What does that even mean? You just putting random words together again, OP?
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>>37725441
link
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>>37738046
spiritual practice repairs dna methylation-induced damage from ie epigenetic consequences of mineral starvation, so there is a real evolutionary psychology background to the development and persistence of things like kundalini.

i think of it this way. in the european bronze age, settlements were usually attacked and razed to the ground every 50 years. the people had no spiritual development, and the aryan invasion ground them into dust, eventually subjecting then to multi-generation epigenetic debility. however, harrapans didn't care for warfare! why?! probably proto-yoga! the aryan invasion was not nearly so destructive, and pre-aryan culture not only survived in the dravidians but thrived in the srinimaya-era overthrowing of the aryan elite. this is because punishing live as slaves of the aryans did not so frequently debilitate the soul of india.

it is like how every culture slowly came to adopt food fermentation.
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>>37739539
also i just remembered the old testament has a passage that explicitly literally says, "Slaughter all the spiritualists and spiritists, kill all their children [why not enslave them? because psychologically they are pre-disposed toward good internal health! they can't be allowed to survive.], wash yourselves in their intestines and rub their organs over your bodies."
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>>37724848

By consuming so many drugs that one experiences the psychosis of his life.

Picrels spirituality is completely based off the "luciferian" dogma. That's what narcissism is: thirst for power and glorification, while being in the illusionary state of the hero (Messiah Syndrome). That's literally the whole purpose of the bible: to generate narcissistic alchemists.
It's a calculated mixture of truth and lie. The son manifests the will of his father, then does the son more or less command his father to glorify him. He even dares to put himself above his father, when he says: forgive them, because bla bla bla, as if his father isn't talking through him? Why are you commanding your father, you fucking mourning star, when it is your father that forgives? Christianity is Satanism and Jesus is Adonay, who is Lucifer. So, how do you cure it? Submit to your father, you arrogant parasite. Know yourself, so you know him, who gave you the word, the thoughts of your mind. May my father reach out to all of you, so there are no more sacrifices.
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>>37724925
I very much like this, but I would like to add two details:
1. The people I have shared my half-truths with either use them for personal spiritual development (such as physical exercise)... or else they are just complete jackasses. I know ahead of time who is who... I suppose that means I must be discriminatory... makes me feel sad.
2. My practice creates a potent sense of all-body "pressure" that is deeply uncomfortable for most people, at least at first. I imagine most practices are similar. But before then is bliss. Meant people probably view discomfort as "evil" and consider comfort as "good" which is incorrect, but it seems impossible to convince many people otherwise.
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>>37739628
What do you think about Vivekanandra's teacher who asserted, "Though the left-hand path of spirituality is incorrect, it is effective in my personal experience"?
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>>37724925

"it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person".

I would've retreated long time ago, but I just can't. It is through these half-truths that I stimulate the production of the whole truth in my mind. The Bible for example is the most refined mixture of truth and lie and it either feeds you to the wolves or it turns you into a dove, that is as wise as a serpent. It all depends on one thing: do you love the truth or do you love recognition?
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>>37736974
the level of basic this bitch is far eclipses any narcissism she has holy shit
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>>37724858
Does karma really exists for narcissits?
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>>37739539
>>37739550
yeah, yoga practice, spiritual development and psychological resistance towards negativity seem to go hand in hand but there is a line which once crossed can never be undone. i practice a type of yoga myself and know how to get to that line but still have some reading to do about what it means to cross it - this was my point.
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>>37728334
No wonder why the board is so shit right now. You have no idea what ego even means.
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>>37724848
Does she have shit on her nose?
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>>37741420
What does it matter? Clean nose, cum covered nose. She is just another whore in the ocean trash of our Earth
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>>37741414
the parasite that claims to be you. it is the cause of all suffering
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>>37724848
scum will always rise to the top, it is important to remove it and keep boiling the pot.
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We all have a Mr. Gold inside us, paranoid about what others think. Just say "you're not me' to this voice and about 99% of your struggles with ego disappear.

I swear if one more hippie ass stoner teenager tells me to strive for ego death but then turns around and does the most hypocritical narcissistic shit I will use the power of satan to reincarnate evil men
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>>37741543
does it truly matter what others do? your ego is your responsibility
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>>37727873
she's just emulating the divine.
she was initiated into the mysteries and i know she was.
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we need to ban makeup to fix women
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>>37741781
why ban it? let people be however they want it just makes it easier for you to filter if you don't like it
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>>37724848
get circumcised
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>>37726765
This and they are misusing the term immensely here.
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>>37741794
forcing people to be better is based
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>>37727491
it's impossible for women to be spiritual
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>>37724848
Not bothering with spiritualism
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Ego is a good thing.
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>>37724848
My sister is like this, they think spirituality means to build up the ego so that it's huge.
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>>37744796
is it? if you had complete freedom and no one forced you to work or do useful stuff would you be less or better than if you had arbitrary limits and expectations put on you?
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>>37745277
honestly? yeah. i think that people need challenge to grow, even spiritually. or even just to maintain their faculties. look at how cognitive decline accelerates after retirement
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is really funny how looking at ther videos shes the opposite of the things she preaches,most superficial braindead hoe i ever seen
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Why did we stop burning witches again?
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>>37744883
No, retard.
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>>37727669
Kek
Imagine her seeing the Buddha say that the self doesn't exist.
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>>37744883
Ego is a good thing when the body is strong, because then your ego is also strong but you have the strength to overcome it. Ego is not good when the body is weak, because then your ego is on the high horse and out of control, and you're a narcissistic brat. The ego wants to make the body weak so that your passions don't come out and therefore you cannot renounce them.
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Remain humble and remember humility is a virtue. It's also humbling knowing God offered us His perfect Son in the flesh to suffer on behalf of our sins, no matter what they are.
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>>37724858
This. Always stay humble. Recognize that you are in full control of your life. Complain, don't explain - where I found myself getting in the most trouble was getting mad and frustrated at how incompetent normal people are instead of just learning to walk away. Learn how to receive and step into your power, accepting everything with gratitude



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