James' livestream has over 200,000 views after being up for one day. This is a shift in the public's consciousness as these types of stories are not put onto Youtube over the course of 2 months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulp-lrdltV8&t=1572sHere is the video that has everyone talking if you are new to what is going on. Let us all hope that James is fine and that he will give us an update.
Starting thread:>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41102998/Known previous threads:>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41123016/>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41129506/>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41144454>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41220006/>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41229017>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41408446https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41490010/https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41493078/I have baked this general and the previous 2. Someone else will have to take over the reigns for the next one because I will most likely be asleep. I hope you anons have been ok with the OPs I have created.
>>41496838I cannot wait for Mick West and other "debunkers" to have a go at this. When will they learn that being a skeptic is synonymous with being a retard? Imagine being in denial about aliens in the big 2025.
also some guy in plebbit says he knows where he works and calls maybe tomorrow or smth
>>41496838Bump
The light appears when the drill makes contact, but he doesn't even acknowledge it.. why?Also the etchings are literally baby's first dremel tier shit.The only convincing part is the sound of the death throws, maybe he watched enough snuff to know what to mimic.
>>41496911The light you're talking about is from the drill itself. Someone has never had to screw a screw before.
He "fell over" and blacked the cam so his viewers couldn't say his tube story was a gay larp
>>41496928real>>41496911>>41496933>checkedthe only thing that gives me pause is whatever the fuck this is phasing through the wall. go to 22:14 it's not there when he first pans to the light
>>41496928No faggot, I'm talking about the one that comes from behind/to the right.
>>41496957Nothing is, its just that object to the left of the door that is already there. James backing up inbetween shots of the door changed that objects perspective to make it look like its protuding out the door. Watch and watch again my bro.
I don’t know how far the general consensus of where he’s at is but I think he's in or near Greenbay Wisconsin. He shows a pen from Oneida Casino in Greenbay and talks about going to the casino with his friends in one of the videos, said it was 3 hours away. Also posted a video from his car where he's in a parking lot next to an Associated Bank which is a regional bank limited to WI, MN and northern IL. As well as an Old Chicago Restaurant which exists in Green Bay WI
>>41496879of course there are aliens, what does that have to do with this shit being obviously fake>that letter he received
I mean it's literally just a blue light pointed at the camera, why are there people who think this is an orb People are so retarded
>>41497157>that letter he receivedI really wish James didn't censor parts of the letter. Don't know why anons find receiving a threatening ominous letter in the mail as sus after taking high technology from the desert.
>>41497180>OMFG BUT DID YOU SEE THE TUBE??
>>41496838Any way to check if he's still alive?
>>41497205>unmarked letter from black ops>they just tell you to be good>they don't disappear you>they don't break into your house and take the ALIEN ARTIFACT THEY KNOW YOU HAVEchrist you lads are fucking dumb
>>41497205this sounds so retarded nigga.If I was some 3 letter group/secret org that guy would be in the back of an unmarked vehicle before he knew it.why tf would they send him a letter?
>I hope I don’t die if I drill into this>Drills into it and dies….yeah ok. If you watch his other videos he mentions he hopes he doesn’t die or disappear. He’s been setting this up for a while.
>>41497235>chat is drilling into this a bad idea chat? Chat? Im gonna drill into it chat, bad things could happen. Better like and subscribe chat>oh i died
>>41497235>first video>"I feel sick being around this thing.">last video>"Being around this thing makes me feel sick. Anyways, time to drill into it.">"whathehellistha WHOOOOA A SPOOOKY LIGHT, HERblubblublub better put my phone face downamazing. this shit used to have effort put into it
>>41496957phasing through the wallits the fucking tripod the phone was on for the first twenty secondsi wish i was on whatever the fuck you guys are
>>41496911>Also the etchings are literally baby's first dremel tier shit.I agree that that looks terrible, and is definitely man made. But consider this.. Some jews/occultists captured a demon or whatever, and trapped it inside that tube and wrote some spell on it to keep it trapped or something, until he unleashed it.
>>41497221>why tf would they send him a letter?Because they are busy and have better shit to be doing than disappearing every random YouTuber who comes across a UFO, something I have to assume happens a lot. They'd act only if he actually captured footage of something that couldn't be easily debunked, and even now I don't think that has happened because if it did, those videos would be wiped from YouTube and there'd be 50,000 bots spamming identical debunks about it. The Reed case is basically this but before the internet and they didn't act until he tried going public. His footage was a lot better.
>>41496960That appears long after he first makes contact with the drill.
one of the best arg/hoaxes i was lucky to witness in real time this shit was iconic as fuck. sets expectations low posting on 4chan with the shitty metalwork and clueless acting that makes it feel fake in an amateur way and builds it up to that last stream that made my stomach drop. shit feels like your genuinely watching something you’re not supposed to see or understand with that oscar level performance and the yet to be debunked light
>>41497314>the yet to be debunked lighti don't understand this type of reasoning, what about it needs to be debunked? He sees a light then falls over.
>>41497314This, it's an arg hoax can't believe people are falling for this clearly fake and gay shit come on a star of David on alien tech? Aliens know about jews? Get real
>>41496838What’d I say, Dang ol' rod and ring, man, talkin'bout dang things gon’ go an’ it gonna strike, I'll tell you what, man.https://youtu.be/VHb_XIql_gUBut that’s not even the “it”
>>41497326It literally casts no shadows. Not even from the bench where the tube sits. You can see it turn on in the reflection, but it changes nothing on the floor after the bench, which it should. Not to mention that it doesn't cast shadows any other places.
>>41497279>The Reed caseI'm not gonna break your heart on this one..
>>41497344There's a bright light overhead and the light that turns on behind him, despite being blue, doesn't appear very bright.
>>41497370The other lights aren't very bright, though.
>>41497370For reference, take your phone, turn on the flashlight, go to a room and see if you can somewhat replicate the light setting, and then see if the phone flash doesn't cast a shadow - it DOES. And that blue light in the video is at least as bright as the tiny flashlight on a phone.
>>41497329:) You wouldn’t get it.If he mentions blue aliens RIP his asshole. But yeah aliens gave antigrav tech to a 75 IQ midwesterner b4 https://youtu.be/hN5X4kGhAtUSe sei stella fatti vedere, io mi fermeròhttps://youtu.be/KsvsLgcBnjE
>>41497326it was a live stream, so that makes recording/editing a whole different story, is it even possible to edit/prerecord a livestream on youtube?if not, was someone holding a light? hope did they stage the reflection on the tube? what was the sound of the slapping if not electric arcs? how did he hide his breathing in the audio and include post mordem bowel movements?i’m confident that there has to be a way to “stream” pre recorded videos on youtube otherwise they’d have to nail that end sequence perfectly first try
>>41497218>>41497221>>41497235>>41497258>>41497314>>41497329Damn bros. It's sad that you guys cannot distinguish reality from fiction. This was a legit alien encounter and James may be in a bad spot if not dead. This reminds me of when so much of /pol/ was calling Charlie Kirk's death AI right when it happened, like wtf?
>>41497414He replied to people's comments in the last livestream. Would've been impossible if it was pre-recorded.
>>41497344The real mystery is why are Igigi so ingrained in the fuckin Atlantean tech, seems like humans got btfo and this shit got repo’ed. We should probably translate the other side.https://youtu.be/rhRvY-cvI9M
>>41497329>Aliens know about jews?It's a six pointed star, plus jews are on to something regarding the occult, so it's more that jews have discovered the "power" behind the six pointed star.
>>41496838james is fine and is really hoping none of y'all show up and bother him.
>>41497430Top line:The highest one, to be, granting, oh, granting, (again, back, anew) oh (that those gives) oh, oh, the highest one, the highest one, the thundering ufo race, ufo, thundering, the highest one, the highest one, to be, oh, giving, (being, status), oh, (for, to be), granting, giving, (that those give), father, to be, the maker, eternity, the highest oneGonna try for bottom line now after I do a few things (:)
>>41497430There's a big error in that translation. The stars in the translation are five pointed, but on the toob it's a six pointed star. The two triangles next to the three lines, are most likely male/female (male up, female down), but also the two components of a six pointed star. The eye looking things could be a planetary orbit around a star. The straight lined signs on the right of your pic, I don't know.
>>41497442Forgot text:https://youtu.be/YU9eKrcAWj0
>>41497350You can't because his evidence is so credible. He could say he faked it, but men are easily coerced. There's always a link when it's real.
>>41497449right..anyway here's him showcasing his teleportation bracelet the alien gave him:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb7YEfJwWQ
>>41497454>anyway here's him showcasing his teleportation bracelet the alien gave himWhat did I say? Men can be broken. Care to explain why Lockheed has an exact copy of the recorded object sitting in their offices?
>>41497457He was a conman long before he was broken, his very first call on coast to coast already had him lying his ass off.He claimed he was invited to the vatican and met with the pope, and the pope told him he was a messenger for humanity (lol).apparently the alien also has dolphin dna and still visits him everyday too.he's not even a doctor btw, his real name isn't even what he claimed it was.
>>41497218You respect smarmy actor fags, and not valuable independent research. I do not trust you.
>>41497425the letter is what throws me off almost entirely, the government has a microphone, cameras, gps, and internet history in the guys pocket and they decide to send this guy a very on the nose letter?
>>41497462>He was a conman long before he was brokenNo? He only went nuts after his first appearances.>He claimed he was invited to the vatican and met with the pope, and the pope told him he was a messenger for humanity (lol).He recorded the footage in 1996. He appeared on Coast to Coast in 1998 to tell his story, answered questions in detail, and had a witness (his landlord) corroborate his story by describing the damages to his house left by the raid. The claims you're citing, i.e., that he was not a doctor, were made by the website "ufoWatchdog," and I don't see why you would believe them when they no evidence.
>>41497444The stars should just be six pointed and the actual symbol that appears and the translation match up correctly. Yeah all the other shit idk, >>41497444VMWe gotThe highest, universal, oh, brilliant, for/ of from, status/ being/ greatness, granting, protection, granting, us, oh, the highest, the highest, thundering, (returning?) Craft(ufo) God(race), craft(ufo), thundering, the highest, the highest, “i” waxing/ gaining/ ???, ??? Symbol (btw paleo sanscrit is def real also and this proves it), for, oh, brilliant, from/of, gaining/waxing, ??? Symbol, oh, highest one.
>>41497489??? Symbol could be Favor, Below/ underlyingOr something elseThis whole shit is wack bros, I really hope James isn’t dead and still has the rod, but I’m pretty sure he got btfo and pwnd, imagine being a sneaking glownigger just fucking around with everybody cuz ur dad molested you or some shit, https://youtu.be/FqzyBW1u7OA
>>41497483>e appeared on Coast to Coast in 1998 to tell his story, answered questions in detail,so you believe the alien has dolphin dna and still visits him out of the blue? what about his meeting with the pope and the teleportation bracelet? He told bell about the bracelet and that his friend was keeping it in russia or something lmao.bro I'm sorry the entire thing is so stupid. He sounds like a literal conman making shit up as he went along on the call.also you can literally go through his county's information database and see that's not his real name lmao. He never provided any proof he had a degree and to my knowledge even recanted this claim saying he made it up to "protect his identity".
>>41497504I'm not the anon you're responding to, but dude. He recorded a fucking alien with his camera and brought it home after killing it. Stfu now.
>>41497516>shieet i just killed an alien with my stick after it blew my dog up, let's start dissecting it even though I know nothing about how this works and then throw it in my freezer after. We wuz doctas n shiet
>>41497524Yeah, that's what happened.
>>41497504Aliens are faggots and wud def have fukkin gay ass dolphin dna in them like a fag.
>>41497454Lmao dude teleportation bracelet!
>>41497504>gymnastics memeOr maybehttps://youtu.be/alUoE6tJP1whttps://youtu.be/QNJbaMXUJCM
You drill the tooba you get the booga, then you shit piss and cum. let that be a warning to you all.
>>41496481Reflection-fag, I am sorry but the red dot is the drill status light and the blue dot is the reflection from the blue light source in the room. Jesus fucking christ you're literally losing your mind over reflections. Please take your meds NOW.
>>41497570you fell for a psyop lil nigga.Even tom admits they aren't aliens but more like inter-dimensional beings, which vallee was also claiming ages ago considering the proof he provided against ets coming from space was too good to deboonk (most people in the ufo community are realizing this just now)He also acknowledges "alien abductions" are literally just mk ultra experiments by glowies/the military. There's a lot of strong evidence for this too and other people in the field (or even outsiders) came to similar conclusions.
>>41497594>not JewsI’m down
>>41497594>He also acknowledges "alien abductions" are literally just mk ultra experiments by glowies/the militaryno, he SPECULATES those things. The arguments against the ETH are more valid than ever, but aductions are not "glowies". there is zero supporting evidence. Or are you saying military can materialize in your bedroom and give you consistent persistent hallucinatory visions? Okay then, prove that. Because that's quite a fucking claim.
>>41497504>so you believe the alien has dolphin dna and still visits him out of the blue?How many times do I need to explain that his going crazy later doesn't invalidate the footage? The encounter itself proves he wasn't faking it. He could claim he was a purple leprechaun from Venus today, and it wouldn't change anything.
>>41497619Shiiiiiit. https://youtu.be/X5G9tIe84lE
>>41497579Ayymen
>>41497218If this were real his youtube channel would get nuked within an hour of posting. Youtube nukes channels for less. I know everytime theres a shooting the shizos get their all their social media accounts wiped. Imagine revealing proof of NHI on cam. his whole family would get killed
>>41497594I've seen aliens IRL so I know you and Tom don't know what's going on.
>>41497425>Charlie Kirk's death AI right when it happened, like wtf?denial is a natural thing when big stuff happens. if it is nothing we move on. if it is something we will see, or maybe we wont. we are civilians, after all.
>>41497605you are so clueless lil nigga no cap fr.He actually goes ahead and even proves this is the case with a popular french abduction case in one of his books. He avoids going deeper into the implications of this, but this is just his speaking/writing style.Other phd researchers wrote about how a lot of popular ufo abduction stories you see/hear about have the military aspects stripped from them when they're published in books/media. A lot of things like going to bases located on earth (even above ground) and the use of primitive tools a human would have, not advanced aliens. This often includes transport vehicles akin to a car/vanSome abduction cases also describe people going up a fucking ladder on a ufo which makes no sense.Basically they use you for whatever they're doing and then drug you/project images with something so you vaguely remember this as an alien abduction mk ultra style. This is why a lot of people don't actually remember things properly, it's just a drug based hallucination.A lot of these alien abductions also show signs of breakage in homes, which once again makes little sense.There's also at least one testimony from someone in the military that did something like this before in brazil, and it lines up with the popular alien abduction of vilas boas (who also described people wearing black combat fatigues like the woman's testimony in picrel (who lives near a military base)this is just 1 I found interesting and have saved, you need to look into the topic more cuz it's very easy to prove.
>>41497665You must be new here. There is a lot of alien evidence on the internet bud.
I think that the main question here now shouldn't be wether he or that tube was legit or not, but rather is James ok and are the cats safe?
>>41497672Not at all only theiries I belueve are anxient egypt and 3i atlas. Again no proof for either. But closer than anything else
Why would he apologize to the rhe light? Id go out saying something like “you nigger”
>>41497212If the agency that works these cases gets serious noNot even his house will exist by the tine anyone gets thereOr it will be there with a different made up family living in it with a long history that no one will dare to deny
>>41497695There surely must be some kind of force it applies to you. Some kind of sense of dread. Surely most people would be more confused and unsure when seeing something like that. No one would go straight to I'm sorry before fapping and moaning off camera.
>>41497695Also, the sounds he made sis sound pretty spookey and not like some over the top hollywood death “Arrghh!! Mein leben!” But maybe he watches gore/cartel execution videos. Either way fascinating but i have been skeptical the thing was an hoax from the beginning.
>>41497688Deposit 6 million dollars into my bank account or I will release the full video. (SWIM just blipped right on the highway)
most boring larp ever
>>41497605Anyway watch this vid that gives a nice run-down on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1s9YEZqNs0Here's 10 books you can read for the very easy to spot connections, many by phd level researchers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2w-Ya4-YyMalien abductions = modern day mkultra shit
>>41497671I have a myriad of first-hand experience. Referring to what others say about a topic only gets you so far, which can easily be demonstrated by the complete lack of any sort of consistent phenomenological model. I like Vallee as well, but you are suffering from a horrible case of dunning-kruger-effect and aren't even half as smart as you think you are.I'm not the one telling others what things are though. That's you. So don't blame me. Just stop spewing bullshit and poisoning the world around you with bullshit you have heard or read presenting it as fact.
>>41497695There are many reports of people seeing ghosts/apparitions, but when filmed, it's just orbs. As if it's orbs projecting something the camera can't catch.
>>41497665only if you have fear or karma, which automatically triggers any attack. The violet flame transmutes any darkness into a resource, purifying evil into clean energy.
>>41497221>why tf would they send him a letter?To make him uncomfortable and get him to get rid of the thing, that it would be best for him to bury it back where he found it so that they could retrieve it without any personal contact.
>>41497695He's pleading because he feels like he's dying, I've popped up out of bed and fainted before, and said no no no no no no, then my voice starts to slur, and I feel like you do when you pass out from exhaustion.
>>41497731>links to and mentions phd level research on the topic>nuh uh you heckin dunning kruger and spewing bullshit.lmao fuck off retard. You can take your delusions and shove them. Keep thinking aliens are actually abducting people for fucking basic ass experiments and using primitive human tier tools. Vallee doesn't suggest, he conclusively proved this is the case in some ufo abductions.
>>41497750How do you explain shit like this then:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_NurembergWas it also glowies?
>>41497750Or this..
>>41497750One of the earliest MJ-12 disinfo techniques was that UFOs were crashed aircraft. Does that mean there aren't any UFOs? Does the government abduct people? Sure. Are all abductions done by the government? No.>Keep thinking aliens are actually abducting people for fucking basic ass experiments and using primitive human tier tools.You clearly don't know about the White Sands and Brazilian human mutilations, or you would know they were done with inhuman precision.
If someone can find the guys house we can check if he was just doing a larp/arg or if he's just a dessicated charred husk still in his fucking barn or whatever. Though I suppose we can check if he shows up as a missing person or in any obituaries. I think we know his *general* location yeah? Could probably track local news outlets just in case.
>>41497763what do you think? aliens started having a ufo space laser battle in the sky? lmao.What about the cases where aliens claim to be from venus or hand out pancakes?You can scroll down and see what the modern skeptical explanation is,and that's assuming I completely discounted the inter-dimensional aspect, WHICH I DIDN'T.Vallee believes both are happening at the same time.
>>41497750>Keep thinking aliens are actually abducting people for fucking basic ass experiments and using primitive human tier toolsI never said that. That is you projecting your own inner life into the world and onto others. Go back and check what I said. Are you able to look into a mirror without getting scared of the big meanie staring at you?>conclusively proved this is the case in someWell he didn't conclusively prove it, otherwise there would be court cases and public lynchings. But I get what you are trying to say even though your extremely childish demeanour gets in the way. The key word is "some". You need a theory that explains ALL of it. Explaining ONE (or 'some") cases and ignoring the rest of the mountain of data, is just as retarded as everything you have been complaining about. Again: What is your relationship with mirrors? Both physical and metaphorical ones.
>>41497779>You can scroll down and see what the modern skeptical explanationThe modern skeptical explanation is that it was something relatively common that does not resemble at all what was described in the text. Imagine backing modern "science" in current year.
>>41497779The magonia cloud pirates are obviously manifestations of some earth phenomenon. They have nothing to do with galactic aliens whatsoever
>>41497776>Are all abductions done by the government? No.I would actually bet the majority of them are if they aren't bad dreams. It makes little sense for nhi to "abduct" people when they can stick to the memes they do in the sky that get way more attention.>or you would know they were done with inhuman precision.you're really out here trying to convince people military and private interest groups don't have advanced tech for cutting shit?>>41497786>Well he didn't conclusively prove it,yup, by your logic mkultra never happened because there weren't court cases and public lynchings.>. But I get what you are trying to say even though your extremely childish demeanour gets in the way. I'm going to fuck your mother to death nigga.>You need a theory that explains ALL of itNo you don't, learn what a theory in science is. Is there a theory for why people break into homes or act stupid on 4chan?>>41497787I bet you unironically believe testimony of sea monsters coming out of rivers
>>41497798Sea monsters are real bro
>>41497454Weird. That's the exactly same blue light we can see in James' video right before he passes.BEN is real.
>>41497804Absolutely legit teleportation bracelet
>>41497695Me irl.Truth is, the nigger was rigged from the start. (I called blue aliens “nigger” 10,000 times after I translated the first line, my irate neighbor future scientist mid morning jogger neighbor doesn’t understand the esoteric meaning of the word and why we whites are allowed to use the word in reference to aliens and cops.) Also >>41497750I agree with you that Christianity is false. I just sharted right on the highway 67.
>>41497489>>41497503
>>41497425Many people are so brainwashed by echo chambers they no longer think for themselves.
>>41497779I think maybe two alien species had a battle over world dominion or something. Why they'd battle in Nuremburg, I don't know, but it's a historical fact.>>41497798Few years later, something very similar happened in Basel, Switzerland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over_Basel
>>41497798>It makes little sense for nhi to "abduct" people when they can stick to the memes they do in the sky that get way more attention.It makes little sense for science, it makes perfect sense if they are performing occult rituals requiring human blood, like Jews do. In fact, the similarities between Jews and NHI behavior are staggering in their implications, i.e., harvesting adrenochrome, Collares NHI sucking blood out of people, blood drained cows and humans being discovered, etc.>you're really out here trying to convince people military and private interest groups don't have advanced tech for cutting shit?The bodies were dissected at the cellular level, and all blood was removed. One such example occurred at White Sands in the 1950s, and I don't think medical tech was quite there yet.>I bet you unironically believe testimony of sea monsters coming out of riversThere's a lot more evidence for UFOs, but cryptids are an area of overlap. If you're a fan of Vallee, as you seem to be, you should understand that such things would echo the trickster archetype.
Go watch PolarityJosh latest YouTube video for breakdown with different filters and audio boosted. Also to Eglin personnel stop bumping into me when I go out shits annoying. Here's the breakdown on why there is no shadow and other related info. A bunch of disinfo idiots in this thread. https://youtu.be/jXkIIU0D4nY
>>41497830the us gov was talking about mind control tech in the 70s. I do think the tech they have is much more advanced than they think, and I think they probably have crafts that let them fly around space too at this point.The officier that studied a lot of these cattle mutilations in dulce or whatever concluded they were some sort of military project, possibly related to bioweapons. I think the alien stuff in this case is nothing more than a cover. Abductions then serve as a cover for mk ultra stuff, and a lot of the crafts they own can actually be explained away by nhi stuff too, I think it's a double edged situation. Similar to how they convinced that benowitz guy aliens were abducting people to hide what they were experimenting with on-base.>you should understand that such things would echo the trickster archetype.yeah I don't discount anomalous things, but I also don't blindly believe everything because a lot of people are bullshit artists. Especially in recent times when the topic has gone more mainstream from fringe.
>>41497855>>41497830>think the tech they have is much more advanced than they thinkwe think*I won't comment on the jewish part, I honestly don't know the implications of nhi behavior outside of them having a purpose for misleading humans. The only thing I can connect it to is the paradigm religions represent with entities misleading humans to hell (like preventing belief in god and favoring other theories like aliens creating humans).
>>41497847In that video, josh talks about live videos always getting uploaded, or saved. Yet, the 1 video from james, where the phone fell over, where you can see a box near the white door, and could see a shadow moving on the box, which moved when james moved, just before he entered the room, is the 1 video that hasn't uploaded. You could here a scraping sound as well, each time the phone fell over, just before the phone fell. Almost like he was using a pipe or tube or stick to knock the phone over, and the scraping was the pipe moving trying to knock the phone over.He's also mentioned money a couple of times, an earlier video mentioned trying to find out about a crypto wallet and monero, then a later 1 he mentions trying to monetise his channel.
>>41497855>the us gov was talking about mind control tech in the 70sYet these abductions have been occurring for hundreds of years.>The officier that studied a lot of these cattle mutilations in dulce or whatever concluded they were some sort of military project, possibly related to bioweapons.Unfortunately, that doesn't explain the observation. 1950s tech was not advanced enough to perform the surgical procedures that occurred, and modern medicine still cannot to this day. Reverse engineering of UFOs had only been ongoing like 10 years at that point. The mutilation that occurred at white Sands occurred to a member of the U.S. Military, and a witness saw a UFO abduct the one mutilated before he was returned dead. What rational would there be for abducting and murdering one of your own soldiers to gather information that could be acquired by using a cadaver like any medical institution would?>Yeah I don't discount anomalous things, but I also don't blindly believe everything because a lot of people are bullshit artists.I do, unless the information contradicts corroborated information. Sure, there's a lot of noise thrown in, but the patterns scream out. Similar craft, similar occupants, similar behaviors. Is there the occasional liar? Sure. Are the liars networking and hammering out the details of their stories so they match one another? Unlikely.
