Why is there suffering in this world?I'm reading about massacres around the world, this one has been particularly brutalhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_GaliciaUkrainians murdered Poles using knives, scythes, children and newborns, beheaded and dismembered.I mean what the fuck man, why does it even happen. Reading about it literally makes my soul twitch
>>41620336I have a guardian angel that talks to me. I'll repost the OP to the dead thread I made.
I remembered what my guardian angel said about why evil exists and why the creator doesn't interfere and hold back all evil. Has to do with free will. She's done a healing miracle that could have been something out of a movie or a scripture and also, she fixed my life and removed a lot of bad personality traits in various ways. So I'm certain she's an angel, she won't obey me and doesn't do hardly anything I ask her.She said it's because the creator truly gave us all free will, and wants us to learn to coexist, be at peace with each other, no violence, theft, rape, no killing and learn to tolerate each other, and to recognize good neutral and evil and worse than evil and to pick good. And to do it all on our own.As in the Creator wants to see us try through every circumstance to be good.The angel said the Creator is teaching us the value of free will, and using that free will to pick good all the time. That free will is so important to learn to use right and cherish along with picking to be good.She said the creator could mind control everyone to be good but refuses to, they want us to use our souls all on our own to pick good and kindness. Every last person. And to learn how important it is to be good because the creator isn't going to mind control us into goodness. They said you actually can be kicked out of the afterlife for being a dick and reincarnated.The angel said that the creator knows the pain we go through no matter how much the lesson of valuing your free will and learning to choose right is worth it.The angel said you can indeed be kicked out of the afterlife if you choose to be a shithead there and the Creator tolerates no bullshit at all. Like Zero BS. She said the Creator has a very rough sense of humor too that's sarcastic.So it's a lesson from my understanding, on learn to be and choose good or you get kicked out of the afterlife and forced to try again.She said there's more too it than that, but that's one of the many reasons.
>>41620359what, what thread
>>41620373I posted it for you incase it helps you.
>>41620336Dont blame.existence for the decisions of savagesWhy are there Ukranians is a better question and now you see why we did this systemic plan to genocide UkraineIts a wicked country of wicked people
>>41620367you were talking to an archon gaslighting you that their prison planet loosh farm is somehow your fault lmaodo you have free will to fly? do you have free will to talk to animals?nope. but it's important you have free will to for all that other horrible stuff.this reality respects the free will of ABUSERS but not the free will of the victims to be unharmed
>>41620419If I tell you I can talk to animals, you will call me a schizoSo think about it, who is to blame here?
>>41620419Free will doesn't mean do anything you can imagine successfully.
>>41620367We are being alligned for eternityReality is an informatic system, its information. And information spreads much faster without physical matterSo if you are a retard sperg or a control freak like your mother, you will ruin eterntiny for us the beings that are chillSo this mortal world is created to allign your soul to the values and behaviors we want souls to have in eternity. If we dont do this, you would make heaven into a shitshow like you do on EarthFuck you hoomans, because of you I was forced here, to "help" you, I guess I need some allignment myself
>>41620437Not the point. Mr interference archon>>41620443They are obviously fine with limiting free will in certain ways. But human suffering is non negotiable lmao.
>>41620452It is precisely the point you disingenous retardStop complaining about things you are doing
>>41620367>SheThere are no female or male angels, but, like God, they take up the form of men.The only reason why an angel would take the form of a woman would be to tempt people with lust, which is what fallen angels do.>And to do it all on our own.Further evidence of it being demonic, the heavens are at all times fighting for our souls, only the evil one wants us to be alone with our own ideas.>They said you actually can be kicked out of the afterlife for being a dick and reincarnated.Even further proof of it being a demon, tempting you with ideas that are false.The spirit interacting with you wants only the worst for you, but that "worst" is spiritual! It will help you in any way that can help you as long as it takes you away from Christ!I suggest you to test it, ask her about Jesus Christ; if she doesn't use His name, but only gives Him titles, then ask her to say His name. If she refuses or calls Him a fraud, then for the time leave it at that. If you do this at night, wait until the morning and go to an Orthodox Church for the Divine Liturgy; but if you do this in the morning, go in the evening (before 17:00) and look for a priest. If you don't see any, wait there until one shows up. Tell him of your situation and listen to whatever the priest tells youIf the spirit notices what you're trying to do, it will try and stop you! If you are ever attacked by them, make the sign of the cross as such: with your right hand, bring your first three fingers together and the last two laid down on your palm, then touch your forehead, your navel, then go from your right to your left shoulder. However, if it restraints you, then say the following: "Most Holy Theotokos, save me!". If you do not remember this, say this: "Save me, O Mother of God!"t. Orthodox Christian>>41620449Larp
>>41620462My larps are more real than you you retarded little dwerp
You are all spoiled kids ruined by your genxer whore of a motherYou deserve everything thats coming to you
>>41620469rim my asshole bro
>>41620456>oy vey shut it downlol
>>41620336https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5oGf_NckUhttps://benthams.substack.com/p/the-archon-abandonment-theodicy?utm_source=publication-searchHere's some good theodicies
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>>41620443>religions on Earth: PAIN HAS TO EXIST FOR FREE WILL!!!>religions when it comes to their heaven/paradise: umm akshually there is only good here and no suffering and its still free willlol
>>41621109Maybe only a very small number of people get to go to heaven people who have done so much to demonstrate on earth that they would not abuse their free will in heaven Or maybe universalism is true and God fixes us before heaven without violating our free will https://benthams.substack.com/p/universalism-a-comprehensive-defense?utm_source=publication-search
>>4162033699.99% of all the atrocities, suffering and pain that happened here on earth, you aren't aware of it and never will be.
>>41620336this world was made by the demiurge, what do you expect?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPcgoaZjsu8
>>41621123all those are special pleading lol
>>41621165No they aren't
>>41621289>maybe>maybe>if I throw out every possible smokescreen the goyim might fall for itlol you
>>41621133why
>>41621109>>41621123>>41621165>>41621289>>41621314Humans had free will from the beginningWhat is free will? It is God restraining some of His divine authority over man so that man might be able to make choices, but in this sense, all creatures have a degree of free will in relation to their intelectual and decision making faculties, except that they do not have moral free will.As such, in the beginning, adam and eve could still make choices, but the choices were only between good and good, rather than between good and evil (not that evil didn't exist, as evil is as old as the devil— who was created before the first human). Only after they learned of evil could they have moral free will. But why don't animals have moral free will? Because they have not eaten of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and because they do not have rationality in the way humans do (because we are made in the image and likeness of God)So then, pain does not need to exist for free will, that is a non sequitur
>>41621449>gods will and gods plan cannot be thwarted>you have free will though>animals don't have free will>engage in murder, rape, homosexuality anywaygosh how christians never realize their cult keep failing its own internal logic is astonishing
>>41621479>>gods will and gods plan cannot be thwarted>>you have free will thoughYou can act against God's plan, but in the end He will still realise His plan with the Second ComingHumans are still powerless. Not an inconsistency!>>animals don't have free will>>engage in murder, rape, homosexuality anywayI explained that they don't have moral free will. Those might all be immoral activities, but that doesn't mean animals can't commit them, just that they don't have moral responsibility, save for killing men. Not a contradiction, read better and stop defaulting to base refutations.
>>41621528>you can only act in gods will >you have free will though!>moral free willsemantics. you ascribe these human sins to free will but animals participate in them despite not having it
>>41621479Understand relativity. Relative to the perspective of a man, he has free will. You cannot know God's plan and so act based on your own wisdom and desires. Relative to the perspective of God, you act according exactly as was designed from the very beginning. Yet from your perspective you are making choices. This is the power of God. To be and not to be at once. Both perspectives of Will are true. Everything changes based upon the perspective of the viewer. A tree might be firewood to a family in winter but its a home to the squirrel all year long. So it is both firewood and a home. Will is both free and designed.
>>41621539>you ascribe these human sins to free willI didn't, i attributed sins to morality and the knowledge of good and evil, which animals do not have
>>41620419>do you have free will to fly?Yes, but do you have the ability to fly? Can you work within the laws of physics and build a machine that can fly? Yes. Could you actually fly and levitate? If you believe stories of people doing it then yes, plausible.>Do you have free will to talk to animals?Yes. Can they understand you? Can they understand you? Some animals can learn human language. Some say they have the psychic abilities to communicate with animals.
