>>42603362>autism or autism
>>42603362Spengler
When reading both, remember that they deeply respected India and the Indian people
>>42604386different era
>>42603362well Evola Built off of Guenon, even though Guenon would ultimately come to denounce Evola due to his spurring of Fascism, so take whatever Evola says about Guenon with a Grain of Saltalso heres a reading chart for Guenon
>>42605202and heres one for Evola for Good Measure
>>42605202>>42605212Very based, anon.Was reading a bit of evola so your image will help me alot, also, i will give a look to rene too thanks to you.
>>42603858t. namefag
>>42603362Guénon obvEven though people larp Evola, Evola unironically is a laper. He has been found for plagiarism and apporting deities
>>42603858nobody cares namefag
>>42604386Better read Lovecraft and Jean Raapail then.
>>42603858>newspeak5 doubleplusgood ration coupons have been deposited into your account
>>42603362>fascist larp shit or fascist larp shit
Guenon. Evola LARPS too much...
>>42607672Ebola is this typical uppity narcissist common in rightoid groups with a few interesting and useful insights when it comes to spirituality. I'd suggest reading Guenon and move on with Evola afterwards.
Schopenhauer
>>42608273I approve this.
>>42603362Guenon and Frithjof Schuon if you want to get into the Traditionalist school/Perennialism. There are a few more prolific writers.There are good videos on Evola's flavor of traditionalism if you want the tldr. I think it will be easier to understand if you're not familiar with these things yet. https://youtu.be/r7NB1r7fndQ
>>42605293>>42607602>>42607672Profane bitches don't understand the power of larping. Ngmi.
I uploaded text to speech of the Doctrine of Awakening, Evola's Buddhist book. Kind of hard to understand what the Indian lady is saying thoughhttps://youtu.be/DKbDsx7FmO4
>>42607602How is Guenon a fascist?
>>42609112The person who wrote it never read Guenon. He just sees how evola is compared to him often and he thought that means there are both esoteric fascists
>>42606309>LovecraftI managed to make an ai write this.
>>42605202>would ultimately come to denounce Evola due to his spurring of Fascism>repeating le political academic reinterpretation of two best of bros who remained friends for lifeGay and gay.
>>42609122If you are still using the word 'fascist' in 2026 you are so hopelessly modern you can't understand 90% of humanity and are gay, liberal art fag.
>>42608402>noooooooooooo dont ascend just be a worm>my father was a worm>my father's father was a worm>and im gonna die a worm
Larp is sacred.When we're executing the last pinko, he'll be muttering about larp and we will larp him in the head.
>>42611922right on.
>>42610663you love to pretend to live the life of these great people, but you'll never be one.you'll always be a peasant and they make sure of it.
>>42608605we live in an era of widely available near perfect voice synthesis and you chose to use a voice synthesizer from 1996 with an indian accent
>>42603362Evola practised magic, was part of a group who practised it, wrote books about it in practical ways.Guénon never did anything, he was hyper-intellectual and dogmatic on top of being a drug addict. His personnal letters also show that he was supersticious and psychotic. Basically his books are not practical at all, you read Evola if you are a /x/er and Guénon if you are into /lit/Also this thread is full of retards who have not read any of these authors
>>42611930>random self effacing retard sperging his low self-esteem about a stranger he doesnt know anything about, because everyone must be an atomised reject like himHow come you losers never assume we are billionaire super spies or samurai or barons or something cool? Why is it always your own projected self-doubt, atomised alienation, and envy? You will never be a woman. Tick tock. Let me guess Mishima is gay so you don't need to look inwards at yourself. Original.
>>42614373The idea that someone is trying to get better and comes here for fun, is but, an impossibility for those people.
>>42613861As someone who reads evola, i agreed.One because i still don't know much and i habe to read more.Two because people who talk about evola, most of the time never read anything about him either.
>>42614378We live in a world populated by gods, great men and heroes who pushed against their times and even their own people, in order to make themselves distinct from the crowd and shift the world permanently. All of our cinema and media is populated with the heroes and greats, drawing from ancient stories. From the peasants, to the athletes and warriors, to the aristocratic elite, men have always idolised the same figures. It's every boy's natural inclination. So the self-effacing 'normie' is quite an abnormality of modernism; an anomalous monstrosity. Something has been broken in them by modernity because that is one of the goals it seeks to accomplish in the total collapse of distinction endemic in the present age; in its materialisation, and in the downwards movement of atomisation. Everything tends towards a levelling, which is the prelude to death. Be glad it has not happened to you, and that you stand against the times, which is the basic germ of any great man. As I get older, I cherish the germ more and more, after seeing what the world does to other men. (I posted Gladiator ironically because its a modernist slave-rebellion attack on Rome and the imperium, like many other modern depictions).
>>42613412I just wanted an Indian lady from 1996 telling me the real Aryan Dharma
>>42614384Evola got me into Roman religion scholarship as a whole. It's clear many of his views are derived and strongly related to it. As well as his opinions of the ancient world. One shortcoming is he could have cited a lot more ancients who reflected his views, which I have uncovered and use to support the same points. He is truly an ancient patrician lost in time, in that sense.
>>42614454Interessing.I myself tend to get more hooked by greek orthodoxy and hermetismWhat would you recommend for the roman then?(Also, it is worthy to mention i am also pretty interested in overall greco-roman paganism too.)
>>42614528>greco-roman paganismRomans got weebefied by the Greeks. The true Roman Pantheon is more related to the Tharcians.
>>42614567Well, elaborate on that.I did find a bit of Sol indigines and some tad bits from the italic tribes here and there, but nothing much.Could you elaborate in that?(Though, i do like greek and its ways alot too.)
>>42614575Giving a quick run-down on then.Pretty interessing that Dyonisius and Apollo are put as a closer to one singular entity there.Fascinating.
>>42614528you should have read all of the popular histories. Livy's Arb Urbe Condita, Gaius' Institutiones, Dionysius of Halicarnassus' Antiquitates Romanae and Plutarch's Romulus by far are the best for Roman culture and religion, and the laws supporting it that were promulgated throughout Europe repeatedly. If Evola uses a latin phrase, go find its source in the ancients and your mind will explode, and 200 academic papers will come up about it showing depth Evola never even touched and which aren't on wikipedia. He left a lot on the table he could have used.Thoughts related to the matriarchal substratum are found in Macrobius, Festus, and Strabo. Even J.J. Bachofen references them but does not cite them. Once you read the classics, you will begin to see what was Evola's and what was not. I dug up a lot of stuff about Servius Tullius and his anti-patrician slave cult. I'll tell you: If I had just read them and never read Evola, I would come to the same conclusions, it totally reframed the way I view modernity and Christianity. Evola gave the seed, but the sources made it 'click'.And this is critical because modern scholarship frequently smears Evola as racist or fascist and immediately forfeit their claim over the truth. His view is the most unbiased by liberal academia. Evola will cite some names here and there, but not enough. He could pull full quotes. His term 'terrae filius' is found in Petronius' Satyricon used as a derisive slur related to surrendering paternal right. And I believe it maps onto a full matriarchal cosmology that maps onto what Guenon and Evola say about evolutionism. He cites some good scholars like W. Ridgeway who demonstrate that Greece and Rome were highly stratified between religions and ethnicities. These days Mary Beard wants you to think that Caesar is an LGBT icon for a political slur used to slander him. So this knowledge is more important than ever to circulate and revive without the clown world lenses.1/2
>>42614626>>42614408I am a Roman cultic traditionalist, and I believe these institutions are pre-Christians, but the 'Europe that Christianity made' is clearly and most evidently Roman-Patrician in origin, and no one gives more credence to that than Gaius. Justinian, a Christian emperor, made his own version of it that draws greatly upon it and Christianises it. So Christians are being wilfully deceptive (what's new). They hijacked the Roman institutions.If you like Evola and his metaphysics, you should read his influence J.J. Bachofen. Entire pages in his Mother Right and collected essay book (they are not the same, I thought they were, the collected essays have other writings too). Some highly original ideas in there, with endless citations, like more than a dozen on one page. Then go look them up. It is easier than ever to track down laws and citations with AI models. Just feed it a concept and ask it for historical quotes, you will get dozens of sources. I do it all the time for research.Livy and Virgil are basic must-reads for any student learning Latin and were part of classical education for secondary school students along with Ovid and Homer, until about the 50s. You are not a law student if you do not know Gaius. Not that long ago you were not considered educated unless you knew Latin. You can buy simplified texts with easy Latin and learn by osmosis. I have a simplified version of Ab Urbe Condita. If you know any Romance language (to speak like a Roman) like French or Spanish, you will pick it up easily.You learn a lot about the plebeians and patricians and why Evola came to think the things he does. These ideas are reflected in Virgil and in other poems like Patronius or Horace. It permeates the air, but modern academics must pretend it doesnt exist.2/3
>>42614630Recent books on Roman religion will apologise for the Christianising of the field that led to undermining the legitimacy and sanctity of their religion, as if it was just propaganda or mental illness. No it was quite serious. I collect random academic papers from jstor and learn a lot of Roman concepts. there are great recent books like Challenge to the Auspices and Dictator that fix the old blindspot in scholarship. Divus Caesasr by Weinstock is also an excellent, well-sourced book on Caesar's religious reforms that went against the prejudice of the day and is filled with archaeology and citations. These are some things I have been fascinated by.He did not invent many of his notions, but just gave an honest reading of the histories and metaphysics to support it. That makes it seem idiosyncratic to casual readers, it's not.A Hellenised Syrian, Lucian, has a great work on Eastern religions, critiquing them, called De Dea SyriaJulian Augustus is also a great read (the emperor, I refuse to say apostate)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucian
>>42614644>Divus Caesasr by Weinstock*Divus Julius. Pic rel.
>>42614630>no one gives more credence to that than Gaius
>>42614626>>42614630>>42614644My my, now THIS is a finding.Though i noticed it all circles back to one self reflection and conclusion i had of hidden history.That matriarchy and related darker cults(which is to opress the masculine drive/young male vitality) is much older and also apparent in history too.I did have a feeling evola and his own sources(plus rome, the mornarchy one which always called most of my interest) where also somewhat related to it.Thank you alot my friend, this will be a great journey to learn and study too.But to ask of you, a bit more of /x/ shenanigans.Would you think that those serpentine/martriarchal cults are, if not, much older than they may want us to belive. If not they are in war against the patrician-aristocratic spirit for much longer too.Seens that these days, most of all, they are in their highest peaks and noble spirits are forced to hide, to strength themselfs, before showing up again.
>>42614630>I have a simplified version of Ab Urbe Condita.First chapter of the book for anyone who has not read it.Jupiter Father. Mars Father. Liber Father. Zeu Pater. Dis Pater, on and on and on.You can't understand the bible unless you know the religion it is attacking. Many things go over your head that stand out to a Roman classics student.
>>42614658Yes you are 100% right. And the more you study this the more alien you will become. It's like waking up from the Matrix on steroids. No 4chan redpill will alienate you from modern people more than this. I get why Evola says his writings are for the man out of time.About Roman monarchy: First of all, Seneca calls Etruscans Asiatic (Seneca, De Consolatione ad Helviam Matrem 7.2: Tuscos Asia sibi vindicat, ‘Asia claims the Etruscans for herself), and they have rites and maternal religions that match up with Babylonians and jews. So Evola is 100% correct about that. Academics for some reason are trying to cover this up. Why? because Etruscans are too valuable to the feminist agenda. They are metronymic, they traced, I found a female academic who called Evola racist for simply repeating what the ancient Romans and Greeks themselves said. So is she lying about history and should surrender her sources?A lot of things about Romulus and the kings are in the histories about them. Servius organised the commoners into the comitia centuriata, which displaced the comitia curiata as Rome’s principal legislative assembly. This reform required the institution of Rome’s first census, making Servius the first Roman censor. For this purpose, citizens assembled by tribe in the Campus Martius. This created a sort of democratic, slave run 'Reign of Quantity' in Guenonian terms. He was anointed by Tanaquil and married her daughter to gain power. His son, Tarquinus Superbus, warped the cult of his houeshold lares into a goddess worship cult and began sacrificing young boys to her (macrobius) to which the patrician who revolted and kicked them out said 'a criminal and unholy sacrifice was abolished'. He replaced the heads of young boys claimed by the oracle with heads of galric and turnip. This is all in Macrobius.1/2
>>42614658>>42614723>>42614723>They are metronymic, they traced*they traced their line matrilineally like jews.However, this permanently deformed the patrician state founded by Romulus all through the Republic until the imperial period. so the American 'senate' that lets women and plebs in and the Gladiator movies are all affirming the Etruscan kingship really. Augustus burned 2,000 eastern oracles including sections of the sibylline books (introduced by the etruscans and allowed Magna Mater from the Ionian Easterners in rope who cut their nuts off for the goddess) and preserved the rest under a statue of Apollo.Augustus was seen as a traditionalist reformer of the original Roman kingship of Romulus, and to this end, he almost took the name Romulus, but shied away, instead taking Augustus meaning 'more august than human' and 'most like the gods' in accordance with patrician cult (Cassius Dio, Livy 'humano augustiorem maiestate etiam quam voltus gravitasque oris prae se ferebat simillimos dis.'). So it rightfully is a reinstantiation of Romulus' original Rome and its patrician ethos.If you like the Roman kingdom, just consider if he had taken Romulus. Historians would puzzle over why the princeps was named after the original king. That should put it into perspective.I hope your journey is rewarding and joyful, may it open your eyes to new ways of seeing and may it be your own, patrician.
>>42614736>>42614658And about the maternal cult, it is well known the predomination of the goddess Isis, her titles and prayers, icons, and rites preserved in Orthodoxy and Christianity. Panthea (All Mother) >>> Panagia and so on. Isis Lactans >> Mary Lactans.This statue was originally Isis, and it was modified to represent Mary and Christ. That is a killshot my friend. The maternal cult won. That should address your questions about modernity and the feminine cult. The north vs south cults warred, and Rome was the surrender of the hyperborean spirituality via Christian soviet-union tier terror and feminine religion.1/2
>>42614736>introduced by the etruscans and allowed Magna Mater from the Ionian Easterners in who cut their nuts off for the goddessREALLY MAKES YOU THINK.There should be daily Evola threads citing Roman histories.
>>42614758This is the sort of extra-Evola archaeology I am talking about
>>42614658>>42614758>>42614792 If you read Revolt, Evola says that the maternal cult was already present when the northern hyperboreans emerged on the planet and encountered them. Bachofen places them first, but he uses an evolutionist lens. Evola disagrees and reframes it as involution, 'correcting it'. This is in significant sections of Revolt.I think Evola actually hints at Lemuria as an origin point of it, IIRC.
>>42614723>>42614736>>42614758>>42614908>>42614787>>42614792Holy moly i knew it wasn't a fluke that i noticed it.Though, my conclusion was slightly different if not a bit crazier.That being, such maternal/serpentine cults worked in this way.The three Goddess cult(which we would have isis, ishtar and probably types of venus. Which is the representation of the high priestess)And a consort king/champion.That always reminded me slightly of saturn and the goddess cult alot of gaia.But then we have jupiter/zeus/the jovial spirit, overthrowing such tyranny from both the high priestess and the consort king, which finally makes the proper patrician order.Apollo and Dyonisius being the highest princes or THE prince of this new jovial king, would also go to hyperborea which is the realm he controls(thus the Prince would be the perfect/future rule, the ultimate rule of solar might that has yet to come)Some of that reminds me of baldr coming back to life after the ragnarok to rule a new golden age.But besides that point is the war between such cult against the solar/jovial spirit, to say they won(atleast in current times) is correct.But if we can learn from these, is that in the darkest times is when a jovial spirit strengths itself even more and overthrow the tyrants(zeus then, releasing his brothers, fighting saturn, fighting gaia and finally defeating typhon)Feels like we are piecing together the war of civilization.
>>42604386Well, shit. That's just a reason to not read either of them.
>>42614968Trust your intuitions. It is how I uncovered much of my findings. By simply getting an idea, then searching it.> baldr Very smart. Evola recognises that as well and he draws upon Gog and Magog in the Alexander Romance.I found the Isis quote by accident, because I was misremembering an ishtar quote. Searched it and it came up. I found an entire book theorising that monotheism and exclusivity is a holdover from Isis worship in Egypt/Graeco-Rome (it was widespread in the region). Isis sits much closer to the time period and location we are talking about.Servius Tullius is the Roman version.What you are piecing together is well known and articulated in the literature on Proto-Indo-European studies. It shows up in Irish, Iranian, Norse, Egyptian, Mesopotamian and Greek and Roman myth. Set among the Egyptians, Loki among the Norse, Zahhak in Iran, Kingu among Babylonians, Minos in Greece, Tarquin at Rome, and Eochu Balor or Bres in Ireland. What actually happens is there is a final clash where the solar king (Apollo as you describe, mirrors myth of Alexander returning to the north mentioned by Guenon) fights the dark tyrant false ruler who uses feminine and plebeian/slave populist support to enact tyranny and unjust rule (just look at today and muh democracy). There then is a catacylsm that ends the universe, starts a cosmic winter (iranian cataclysm myth is centred on an arctic frost, rather than a flood) and the universal order begins anew. I believe those are the missing pieces you seek.>P. Mallory and D. Q. Adams, The Oxford Introduction to Proto-Indo-European and the Proto-Indo-European World, pp. 439–440, on traditions preserving ‘traces of a Proto-Indo-European eschatological myth’ in which the end comes through a ‘cataclysmic battle’; J. P. Mallory and D. Q. Adams, Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture, pp. 180–181>Jaan Puhvel, Comparative Mythology, p. 285, on the Norse and Iranian forms of the terminal ‘cosmic winter’.
