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Around 1 year ago I started being very sick all of a sudden.
I'm young healthy, but took the vaxx twice when I was underage and dumb and Covid at least 1 or 2 confirmed times (forgot).
So this is how everything started:
Again I was healthy, had a good diet, exercised a lot..
woke up one day randomly jan 2025 feeling fatigued, a sort of nervous fatigue that I never had before. Like having chills but burning.
Went to dr., got bloods done and they told me everything was OK. Few days passed and shit got much worse, started having crazy night sweats, would wake up every night many times and my eyes would burn (internally, never dry eye shit) like crazy, to the point it hurt to open them. Then for about 5 days I had a massive feeling of constriction in left side of the chest.
Essentially 2 weeks into this illness and I legit thought I was going to die, not as a panic but every part of my body was telling me I was gonna die. Went to the ER too and they told me everything was fine (lol)

Had this "spike" of symptoms another time few weeks later and then after lots of recovery it was basically an up and down every time I exercise or put any sort of stress on my body.
And even now at 1 year and a half distance, it's still the same. They call it PEM "post exertional malaise".
Basically I can feel fine, completely healthy one day, work out a bit, feel a bit sluggish the day after and the same night wake up at 2 AM like I put a fork in the electric socket. My body is just fucked I guess.
So at this point I'm open to try anything pharmaceutical, supplemental etc.
Saw a lot of threads about vax/covid on 4chan so maybe someone could help me?
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>>42614216
If it's any consolation, I didn't get any vax and still ended up with long covid dysautonomia. Mind you, I suspect I got it from a vaxxie because it coincided immediately after a brand new booster rollout (April 2025). Absolute nightmare, worst year of my life. Thought I was about to die many times, but like you, conventional tests all look normal.

Godspeed anon. Wish I had an answer for you, but rest assured you are far from alone. This is a mass disabling event that is not being covered at all.

Have you looked into brain retraining at all? A lot of people claim to have resolved things like me/cfs, pem, long covid, mcas, dysautonomia, fibromyalgia etc by soothing the nervous system. Dunno if it's legit, but no smoke without fire. Check out Raelen Agle on youtube.
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>>42614216
>Around 1 year ago I started being very sick all of a sudden.

Anon did everything instead of going to the doctor! Imagine that!
Instead he went online and became a tool for online losers to blame vaccine for his ills.
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>>42614216
Yes for them it is OK
For them it is fine and everything went with you as planned by big pharma

So basically i will only throw you a "bone" since i dont know you and you will have to do the work but here:

https://andreaskalcker.com/en/
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>>42614216
It's been documented repeatedly (although mostly buried) that the coof vax can cause myocarditis and other heart issues in teens and young adults. That was why the left side of your chest felt constricted. Your heart is permanently damaged now and when you exert yourself, it puts too much strain on your heart muscle. It's the same as if you worked out your biceps too much and needed a day or two before your arms went back to normal. If you can afford it, I would suggest going to an actual cardiologist, not a general practitioner, and certainly do not trust ER docs, they're generally worthless.
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>>42614216
Don’t take this the wrong way, I’m dead serious: you’re describing severe anxiety. I’m not saying “it’s all in your head,” I’m saying your body is fighting itself constantly in an extreme way. Start making small changes and wait a few days between each one until something starts working. Could be diet, could be habits, could be existential dread, could be an allergy, could be trauma, could be an unclean bedroom, could be constipation, etc.; there are lots of things both psychological and physiological that could be triggering anxiety. Start changing the little daily things one at a time until you find the one that was causing the trouble.
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>>42614216
Are you healthy or “healthy”?
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>>42614216
Try taking CoQ10. It's fat-soluble so it's best to take it with a fatty meal. I had a similar experience as you (albeit I didn't get any vax) and CoQ10 helped me a ton. I don't actually know what was wrong with me, whether it's an actual disease that is spread through the air or if it's from my vaxxed family member shedding something, but my circulation was fucked for a while.

Another thing to potentially try is L-Lysine (ideally with monolaurin as well). It has antiviral properties, and allegedly (again, I have no idea if this is true or not, it's just what I've read) covid can basically "reawaken" dormant viruses in your body. L-arginine feeds viruses and helps them replicate, and L-lysine does the opposite. So you might want to pay attention when you eat foods rich in l-arginine (like nuts or dark chocolate, for example) to see if it makes you feel worse.
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>>42614216
>>42614311
Please listen to this anon, I have recently recovered from 5+ years of severe cfs. You need to regulate and ground your nervous system, repeatedly. Do not add any additional stressors to your body until you feel stable again, which means regulate your sleep, eat healthy, move your body gently. Think good positive thoughts, and try to feel positive emotions. Do not create “stories” and meaning about your symptoms - this will cause you to spiral deeper into symptoms. You are simply under extreme stress, which absolutely manifests physically and you are going to take it easy for a while. I’m praying for you anon.
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>>42614855
Not OP, but did your cfs start after a covid infection or vaccine?
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>>42614216
Get your mediators tested by an immunologist. Infection and vax both cause mast cell hypersensitivity (vax lingers longer because of endogenous spike protein production). Try a basic OTC antihistamine like hay fever tablets and see if they make you feel at all better. If they do, you likely have a sort of secondary MCAS, which seems to be very relevant to long covid. It does go away, but takes time, usually 12-24 months minimum without re-exposure to viral circulation. Read about inhibitors like Quercetin, Luteolin and Boswellia - Boswellia specifically inhibits 5-LOX, the enzyme that synthesises mediators like leukotrienes, so you don't risk rebound flares like with inhibitor-type antihistamines. If your symptoms get worse after eating, or indeed after eating anything specific, that's another clue, and could be worth getting a microbiome stool test to see what your probiota are looking like - most LC sufferers are low on lacto and bifido, and have messed roseburia.

Additionally, anything that soothes your nervous system like other anons itt mention will definitely help, as mast cells are directly responsive to stress hormones and ANS innervation. If you can convey "safety" to your nervous system, your hyperactive Th2 pathways will downregulate (improving your symptoms).

It will get better anon, just be gentle with yourself and try to do things that bring childlike enjoyment, like painting and reading nice fiction books or playing with lego. Vidya is fine if it's not too "threatening" and you can stand looking at screens.
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>>42614285
Kill yourself faggot
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>>42614268
I meditate pretty frequently, helps a lot during spikes.
>>42614298
I went to cardiologist already, had some xrays done, ECGs, Cardio doppler etc. and they all told me it was fine. But I read that viruses spread throughout the body when infected.. I believe that I had pericarditis at least a few times because in one of the xrays it showed.
>>42614311
I definitely am socially anxious on the side, and I stopped going out ever since I got sick so the two things reinforce each other. But I meditate a lot, take sunlight, exercise. I don't really believe that my "anxiety" is causing this lmao.
My first doctor also gave me anti depressants and anxiety meds and I relunctantly took them since I was super sick. They just make me numb and slow.
>>42616228
I have a visit with an internist, which I think is like an immunologist and I heard the mast cell thing too. I actually had already ordered bunch of stuff from India since my retarded doctor declined my request to get antihistamines H1 and H2 because he is a faggot.
The stuff got stopped at customs. Also low dose Naltrexone was in there.
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>>42614216
Ok bretheren ill help you. My credentials are im the smartest guy in a 1000 mile radius.

Manokolin K from red yeast rice. It breaks up nano tech from the vaxx. Manokolin K is similar to lovostatin but u Dont Want That.
Nicotine. Get 100% pure and dilute it in coconut Oil to your intented dosage. Breaks up nano tech and deal with synthetic snake poision wich was in the vaxx. There is a reason they are banning nicotine around the world the past years. And it is not for your protection.

Edta with ala. Figure out dosage.

What Else. Get a sauna.

Sulphorophane with 2 lactobacilus strains. Look up micro plastic detox.

Good luck
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>>42616464
>I actually had already ordered bunch of stuff from India since my retarded doctor declined my request to get antihistamines H1 and H2 because he is a faggot.
Which country are you in? Most H1 antihistamines you should be able to get over the counter without a prescription at any pharmacy. H2 are only really for if H1 doesn't work. Additionally, antihistamines aren't really a permanent solution due to long term side effects, so personally I would restrict them to severe days.

What you REALLY want to do is stabilise the mast cells. I did this by taking high doses of krill oil, like 4-8 tablets daily for 3-6 months and then tapered off. It works because the Omega 3 EPA and DHA are phospholipid in this form, so they are taken directly into the cell membrane structure rather than requiring digestion and transport. The way mast cells degranulate is by mobilising Omega 6 arachidonic acid, causing inflammation. Some is good, too much causes chronic illness. Omega 3 selectively outcompetes Omega 6 in mast cell membranes, so fewer mediators are mobilised. Too much Omega 3 long term is also not ideal, as it can reduce platelet count and whatnot, everything in moderation. But at therapeutic doses, it should be safe for like a year without issue. You should only need 3-6 months to saturate your cells before being able to switch to small doses every 1 or 2 days for maintenance until you feel yourself again.

Mast cells aren't the whole story, you can also try thiamine (Vitamin B1), as it is the primary catalyst for mitochondrial ATP production and the citric acid cycle. Take it in a bioavailable form (I prefer benfotiamine) and follow it with a normal B complex, magnesium and vitamin D (not doing so will deplete the latter 2).

1/2
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>>42616464
>>42617030
2/2

It must be said, start slow with all of this stuff. It's all just vitamins and minerals you can buy on amazon, but best to take is easy all the same. Especially with benfotiamine, take a microdose of like 10mg first (open the capsule and sprinkle a pinch in water), some people find it way too 'activating' at first and need to build up to it. If you tolerate it well, it has an excellent safety profile, so you're not really at risk of ODing it. For me, 150mg daily for about 6 weeks was the sweet spot, but I don't think I was ever deficient. Some people with true thiamine deficiency (like severe alcoholism) need to take it for at least a year. B vitamins in general are good because they are required for all your body's detox pathways, just be careful not to overdo them. If you can tolerate magnesium fine, you can basically take as much as you want within reason, it is required for basically every enzyme function in your body. Additionally, zinc and copper - zinc is the enzyme required for carbonic anhydrase, the way your blood chemically processes CO2. It's unlikely you'll be severely deficient, but it can help stabilise a few symptoms, especially if you're a chronic gooner.

Regarding enzymes, you could try DAO enzyme - the way your gut metabolises excess histamine. It could help, but it's symptom relief at most, you really want a robust microbiome. Some people have tried fecal transplant results with mixed effect. Better to just microdose specifically anti-histamine and immunomodulatory probiotic strains, work your way up to fermented foods.

The good news is that nothing is majorly wrong with you, your metabolism just took a bit of a knock and your nervous system was shocked. A bit like how in boxing, when you get hit in the liver, the next shot is absolutely disabling because the body never expects to get hit in the liver.

2/3
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>>42617030
>>42617068
3/3

Most of the other advice itt is bullshit I'm afraid, I've tried it all. Nicotine is only effective during acute spike protein exposure because it competitively binds to n-acetylcholine sites in the CNS and ANS, but the issue is that it upregulates ACE2 receptor sites in endothelial tissues, so you end up more susceptible to covid spikes in the long run (unless you are a pack a day smoker). Not to shit on nicotine in general, feel free to give it a try, but it didn't help my case. Additionally, nicotinc acid (one of two types of Vitamin B3) is especially important for Phase I and II liver detox, so it's not useless at all, it's just not a miracle cure as some claim.

Above all else, time will heal you. It might take a while, but you will recover. It sucks big time and this shit is definitely some manmade bioweapon that is causing silent suffering for millions of people even now, but the damage does pass. If you had some kind of genetic mitochondrial issue, you would have lived with serious conditions from birth. You basically have an ongoing cell danger response, my advice above is mainly just to saturate your cells with what they need to function so they at least don't feel like they're starving too.

I'm still skeptical about brain retraining programs, but in theory it makes sense that they would work, similar to Ramachandran mirror therapy. Anything that helps reduce the mental suffering of your symptoms has got to be a win, and I'm sure people have genuinely recovered just from changing their emotional reaction to their symptoms. It's hard though.

Rest assured, you are far from alone, and you will get better with time.
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>>42614216
Ok brother, ill put you on. one use the 4chan archive to research the compounds, 4plebsDOTorg, the 2 compounds you should use to clean out the the vax and help with other issues in the body is chlorine dioixde (research it on the archive) make sure you search on all boards. and Emeramide its a powder the chelates heavy metals the best. i gave it to many vax family members. they had strong detoxes because they were vaxxed. way stronger then non vaxxed. others will call it a Herxheimer reaction. which is a detox reaction. feels like a low grade flu as these compounds clear your body out. after 2 weeks you will not have a reaction anymore. 2 hours after consuming chlorine dioxide and a empty stomach (3 hours empty wait 1 and half hour to take high dose vitamin C 5 grams. or lipomsal vitamin C which. this will negate 80-90% of the detox reaction. can do the same for emeramide after 1 hour. chlorine dioixde remains active in the system for about 2 hours max so you can eat or drank anything besides more water. it could make you feel sick for a bit. check out this link and search more key terms use they chorine dioxide type mentioned in this post"https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/533283584/#533283584". dont use the 50% citric acid. taste like ass. the other one taste like water. with powerful strong compounds people whill fear monger. these compounds work. I TRIED THEM ALL GOOD SUCCESS! GL ANON THIS CAN CURE MOST YOUR ISSUES IN 2 WEEKS TOPS NOT MONTHS OR YEARS!
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>>42617155
just to make it more clear, take high dose vitamin C an hour and a half after consuming the chlorine dioxide. this will negate most the herx and actually give you a burst of energy and borderline euphoria for hours. this only happens during the herx in the body. after a week or 2 when you no longer get a reaction from the chlorine dioxide you will not experience that effect energizing effect. people will shill these compounds but i promise they will help you way more then what damage people make up it does.
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>>42617155
Chlorine dioxide is just water purification tablets. If you take too concentrated a dose, you'll fuck up your microbiome. You might as well snack on toothpaste.
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>>42617190
yes i agree it can mess with your microbiome just like antibiotics. eat some probiotic foods which is easy to say but nobody really does it. that being said. you can live a very long time with a weak microbiome and this is very fixable. but with the vax your in real danger and living hell. the vax breaks down every part of the body and mind over time. you choose. the other is very simple and easy. just a week or 2 required then never again.
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I had something similar in 2023. I got the Foucie ouchie but no real side effects from that.

For me my symptoms were a deep fatigue. I would take a short walk and I'd be so winded when I'd get back that I would crash out and sleep for 3 days.

I'm pretty sure it was from catching covid. CFS has been around a long time if you would lurk wiki pages and r*ddit posts but it used to be discarded as a real symptom and doctors would literally label it as a made up placebo disease lol. It really ramped up and became a "real" disease/dysfunction after covid and a lot of people got chronic fatigue after catching it.

You could try herbal remedies and other stuff anons recommend, why not? For me I just waited it out and it went away after about 9 months, though it still lingered for a few months after that.

>If you want to try something, try Reishi mushroom. You need the real stuff, the real dried out mushroom. Very easy to prepare, just boil it in hot water. If the source of whatever is plagueing you truly is neurological/nervous system related, reishi mushroom will help you.
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