>>43064112
location, birth and death do not apply. it's as fake as any abstraction like "love". yes, 4chan will come from nothing again, assuming it did come into existence which it did not.

Whatever has a beginning in time has an end in time. This is why the "universal consciousness" "primordial consciousness" is a psyop. It had a beginning in time, and an end, when you're in deep sleep, death, etc.

>>43064119
>location, birth and death do not apply. it's as fake as any abstraction like "love".
Words like "love" mean whatever the user wants the word to mean. The word "death" however may very well mean that which is beyond our current ability to conceive. I get the point of view that one can't experience death if death is nothing, but that unimaginable nothing may very well be something. Or not. I don't know.

>yes, 4chan will come from nothing again, assuming it did come into existence which it did not.
Do you mean that all appearances are projections from an unconceivable source?

>>43064124
>This is why the "universal consciousness" "primordial consciousness" is a psyop. It had a beginning in time, and an end, when you're in deep sleep, death, etc.
If there is no such consciousness, can there be something without consciousness at all, like a universe without conscious life forms? What was there before the universe? Let's say something like "pure potentiality", whatever that means. Still something shifted the balance and now we're in this mess.

>>43064140
its simpler than that. 4chan is not a biological entity, so life and death do not apply. if you rephrase for a non-biological entity, as in "where was 4chan before it came into existence and where does it go after it ceases to exist", then it does not apply because 4chan in fact never did exist and location likewise does not apply. i dont define the words in terms of human ability to conceive of something, but in terms of "does it have a physical location", "is it tangible", "can it or its effects be sensed using the senses".

i mean that all entities must come from a source, and that if this source produced an entity once, it will do it again, since non-existence is impossible. i make no claims on whether produced entities are appearances and/or projections, and whether the source is conceivable or not.

>>43064159
My theory is that there was no time where there was no consciousness, Maya is coeternal with the Godhead, you cannot trace its roots it's a fool's errand.
This is partly why everything is "one" consciousness is the not the principle but it is the coeternal as is Maya. Some animals, for example, and ghosts have sentience but no consciousness this is because they're disembodied souls or just like machinations. You need a soul to have consciousness, consciousness is obviously in part done by our brain but what led a specific species brains to consciousness? That's what should be asked. The godhead wasn't ever "awake" is the reasonable answer, because it isn't. it's eternity which is antithetical to time. With eternity comes time, and for time you need eternity. There was never time without eternity and there was never eternity without time.
I can't conjecture any more

>>43064112
>Where was 4chan before 4chan was born?
As a potential change from the previous states, like 2chan or just forums in general.
>Is 4chan real or is 4chan just an illusion of changing appearances?
It is real, but it is temporary, and in that way it is illusion.
>Where does 4chan go when 4chan dies?
Into some other thing, and heat.
>If 4chan came into existence from nothing
It didnt. There is never nothing. there is no creation.
There is only change.