>welcome to the gym anon, today we're learning [technique], [counter1], [counter2], and [counter3]>time to roll>opponent launches [technique]>heh, no problem, [counter1]>suddenly [counter1counter] to instant tap>repeat>get fucking smoked nonstop for an hour>repeat 3x/wk for a monthWhy am I being set up for failure? Why am I giving these assholes money? When will they teach me the secret techniques? And why do I keep getting hit in the nuts "accidentally?" And why are protective cups forbidden? Am I enrolled in in a gay BDSM dungeon disguised as a martial arts studio?
>>194496It seems there weren't any warriors among your ancestors anon you just aren't made for fighting it shouldn't be this hard
>>194496>new student is worse at fighting than more experienced students>a bloo bloo bloo it’s not fairSuck it up zoomie. You have to get your ass kicked a whole lot so that you can eventually figure out how not to. If you quit after a month you’re a loser. If you stick with it long enough you’ll learn how to win.>>194498Don’t listen to this retard. No one walks into the dojo and is beating ass day 1.
Dude bjj totally works broHere's a video where some fat manlet tackled a crackhead and put his arm around his throat!!You need 10k hours studying bjj to achieve that level of skill :^) Your first payment now pls
If you go to a gym and they're teaching techniques like that you should turn 360 degrees do a break fall and then just stand up because shrimping doesn't work and go out the doorTechniques aren't realA technique is a semi-repeatable method to achieve a goal, and it's something that changes person to personAnyone that says "this is the correct technique" is wrong You see this come up in the divide between modern leg lockers and old school jiujitsu boomersLearn from a boomer and he'll say this is the way and if you're not getting it it's a you problem, keep doing your reps until you get it exactly the way I said to do itThe modern take, we'll use a heel hook for example You can use a one hand grip, Gable grip, butterfly grip, figure 4 grip For your legs it could be a simple knee pinch, legs crossed, a triangle, foot under the thigh, foot under the butt, whatever And when you ask what should I do a good coach will tell you it doesn't matter Because none of those methods actually are what matters, the thing that matters is their hip is trapped and you have a bite on their heel And whichever configuration works best is going to be an individual thing based on your body as well as the body of the person you're trying to do it doAs a 5'8" giant dwarf walking on a pair of oak tree stumps the configuration I use to control someone is obviously going to be different from Mr. Skeltal with his hips starting at my nipples And so what a good instructor is going to do is show you some different examples and then give you some guided play time to figure out what works best for youAnd that doesn't mean rolling, that means supervised deliberately practiceFor the next 5 minutes your goal is to hold Jeremy in cross ashi, he's going to try and escape it. Don't try to finish the attack, just practice controlling someone trying to escapeIf he does resetPlay around try different things, see what works for youThats how you git gud
>>194508So playing slowmo pattycake on a single move for 5 minutes is the secret to not getting rolled up and smoked for an hour? Sweet, thanks, but we already do that and it doesn't help at all. I mean it's fun and cool but it's completely unrelated to the things that start happening once the buzzer sounds.
>>194509 Doesn't really sound like you do what I'm describing I don't think you're having an atypical experience by the way, the main problem with this stuff is how it's taught. I'd bet it would be safe to wager that the moves you learn today don't really have anything to do with the moves you learned yesterday and aren't going to have anything to do with the moves you learn tomorrow People show this garbage like you're ordering at the drive thruLemme get uhhhhhh 2 armbars, and a mount escape...2..no 3 back attacks aaand I'll try a half guard sweep That isn't how this is supposed to work, imagine if you went to college and the teacher just taught a random thing every day and then you were expected to curate that information yourself and make something coherent and useful about it This stuff should be taught in units, starting this month we are working on mastering the half guard First I will show you the position and different configurations of it, then I will show you how to attack from that position, then I will show you ways to defeat that positionIt'll be 2 weeks for each of those phases And if you miss something that's okay because other people saw the part you missed and catch you up since you already know everything leading up to itThey say jiujitsu is "human chess"It's real easy to make checkers seem like chess when you don't explain it correctlyIt's piss easy really
>>194508>shrimping doesn’t work>techniques aren’t real>anyone who says “this is the correct technique” is wrong>a good coach will tell you it doesn’t matterI don’t even disagree with your main point which is that you need to apply techniques based on your body type and what works for you and your game but holy shit you’ve got a lot of autism and other dumb shit sprinkled into this post. Techniques aren’t real? Shrimping doesn’t work? Get load of this guy.OP you need to learn the “right” way to do things first, you experiment with what works for you after. What the anon Im responding to is advising you to do is skip steps 1 and 2 of becoming proficient>step 1: learn the form>step 2: break away from the exact form>step 3: Mastery, aka you can apply the principles of the art without the form being important
>>194516You might think I'm crazy now, but new idea that challenge convention usually do seem crazy at first. Eventually you'll agreeSoon I'll come aroundLost and never foundWaiting for my wordsSeen but never heardBuried undergroundBut I'll keep coming
>>194517Song lyrics or schizophrenic?Either way, there is value in beginners learning the basics in an organized way, you can’t maintain good pedagogy if you decide to just do everything everywhere all at the same time.
>>194519little from column A little from column Bhttps://youtu.be/KnrGMHhnqrw?si=qLT9z_wRrRASZbVz
>>194509The idea is that "submit your partner" is not narrow enough of a goal to develop skill quickly. It helps to have more specific goals. A lot of people do things like positional rounds:>start in mount, reset if there's a submission or escapeor even more specific goals>start in half guard with a crossface/underhook, free your legIt's a bit of a rabbit hole but any way of simplifying the game will help. Try to figure out your main problem areas and focus on them for a while. Here's an example of what I was talking abouthttps://youtu.be/n2kfNdH6oo4?si=bg7GDdF1DdKHw6VrPersonally, I still like to learn techniques and concepts but I try to combine them with games/specific training.
Break GuardPin HipGet Side ControlMove to Full MountFinish>>194521>>start in half guard with a crossface/underhook, free your legoh neat, we get to foot fuck each other
>>194579>just get side control broWow hadn’t thought of doing that. Great advice retard>we get to foot fuck each otherI don’t even understand this one
>>194496>When will they teach me the secret techniques?They're showing them to you, pay attention and ask questions if you need to. >And why are protective cups forbidden?That one's weird. Is that an actual rule or just your interpretation of someone's offhand comment?
>>194590He probably brought a thai style cup in
>>194496In my experience bjj guys are terrible sparringpartners. In my old gym they just smash you when they are way better then you. I’m a decent kickboxer. When I spart someone weaker then me, I go easy, try different techniques I’m not used to and let him work. I’m not aiming to ko him.But in bjj>got Mounted by someone two belts higher then me>defend Ezekiel choke>get facecranked till I tap>embrace the suck, broGo fuck yourself
>>194598Sensitive
>>194598Yeah, why is that? My partners in wrestling and judo have been better partners on average than the guys I've run into whenever I've checked out BJJ gyms. Something's off about the culture.
>>194616Inferiority complex, they may give you the line about how belts don’t matter but for whatever reason every blue belt feels like he has to keep white belts in their place or something instead of letting them work. If you let them work they might accidentally “win” a roll.
>>194508Oh boy it's this retard again>techniques aren't realThat's a new one, you'd probably get me with that if you didn't lead with the shrimping thing
>>194622You guys retreated from the last thread after I showed lex Friedman and Ryan hall discussing how shrimping is shitDon't try to move it somewhere else now and pretend you've won
>>194503>No one walks into the dojo and is beating ass day 1.surrrrrrre
>>194642I’m sure you were very special anon
>>194640As long as you acknowledge that back rolls are real.
>>194647It's not that there's no circumstance where that may come up, maybe more so as a protective reflex if you got knocked over, but it's a weird niche movement that if you spend any time practicing it at all its just time wasted"if you fall backwards go over your shoulder instead of neck, k?" That's itThat's more something people should be ok with doing just navigating the world like you tripped or something. It has no implicit martial value
>>194640We left the thread because you ruined every attempt at a discussion with annoying contrarian shit, without any examples of you being correct>muh Ryan Hall's opinionreddit
>>194655Judofag here, im not even aware of what argument you nerds were having before but wtf is this post?>it’s not that back rolls are real it’s that you should just roll over your shoulder instead of your neck to avoid injuryLike, yeah retard that’s what back rolling is. What the fuck am I even reading?>but it’s niche so if you practice it it’s time wastedOk have fun when all your students start breaking their necks then since you evidently didn’t train them to protect themselves.
>>194662>provides example>that example is too redditWhatever the fuck that means
>>194669Yeah man, totally gotta make sure you spend 25 minutes of class rolling up and down the matThis is the reason I don't go to judo, it's such a waste of timeVery little of it is actually instructive
>>194671>this is the reason I don’t go to judoYou don’t train at all because you are lazy and think you know better than the people that submit you consistently (including your instructor)
>>194671I bet you’re the kind of retard who is constantly trying to do shit he saw on YouTube before learning the basics and never actually improves
>>194672nope, just don't like it. I'll talk shop about judo and study it for educational purposes but the formality is a non-starter. I'm not a 19th century chink peasant>>194675nope, already made it pretty clear learning techniques is dumb. especially if the source is something like youtubeif someone is showing moves on youtube that usually means they don't have people in real life willing to pay them directly for their instruction
>>194614No, it’s a terrible way to train.He stick to his old path and I learn nothing but to endure.If he would go more easy, he could try stuff he isn’t realy good at and I could work on my basics. Both of us would improve.
>>194587>he can't pass the hipsngmi
>>194590>>And why are protective cups forbidden?>That one's weird. Is that an actual rule or just your interpretation of someone's offhand comment?this is how you know /xs/ has never rolled, your elbows know not the pain of the cup-bar
>>194598>I’m a decent kickboxer. When I spart someone weaker then me, I go easy, try different techniques I’m not used to and let him work. I’m not aiming to ko him.i do the same thing, except i throw cut kicks to the supporting leg inbetween catching the kick and sweeping because *checks notes* i'm an asshole
>>194679How exactly is anyone supposed to learn anything if you don’t teach them techniques? Just have them roll around getting submitted until they reinvent the wheel on their own?
>>194692Mild physical discomfort during an arm bar is a much smaller concern than injury to the testicles.
>>194598It depends entirely on the gym and its cultureIn some places, people are really chillElsewhere, they train like homoerotic Cobra KaiYou just need to fit a gym that fits your preferences
>>194691I'm happy that you've discovered these fun concepts but simply stating and knowing them does not make them easy to accomplish. White belts understand what their supposed to do, doesn't mean they can do it against anyone knowledgable.
>>194700 No, everything is guided for them however they are taking an active role in the learning process and coming to the answers on their ownIf I take you on an Easter egg hunt and the whole country is the boundary you'll never find it unless I give you so much information I practically told you the answers, but if I constrain you to the front lawn you'll find the eggs on your ownIf I want you to learn an armbar first define what an armbar isAn armbar is a state in which someone's arm is extended and force is being applied to the back of the elbow causing enough pressure it will eventually ruptureSo that's your task, starting at the very end you're going to practice that iteratively, and you'll just play with an arm getting feedback from the partner if it's better or worse until you figure out ok I need to grab the wrist and rotate the hand and push my hip bone into it. if there's a break down in the system somewhere we troubleshoot it together until YOU realize "he keeps sitting up and the pressure goes away" Ok now you're going to have a new task with the goal of holding him down where you'll figure out heavy legs, knee pitching etc. You will learn much faster and much more completely with your understanding If you are the one making the discoveries and I'm just there to give hints and help guide youVs I'm an expert in something already so I show it to you and say OK monkey now copy exactly what I just did 1000 times until it's as good as mine
>>194719>Easter eggI had an instructor that called it the box of mistakes. Anything outside the box would get him to stop you and reset, explaining why it was a mistake. Anything inside the box you had to figure out yourself.
>>194700https://youtu.be/V4QtQTRwwD0?si=O3_aI7XUidkuj9sW
>>194719This is the most pseudo-intellectual bullshit I’ve ever read on this board>hurr durr I can’t teach you an armbar because techniques aren’t real let’s define what an armbar isStop trying to hard to be John danaher you sound like a retard
>>194728 If you want to spend 15 years brute forcing your way to a black belt by playing Memory games be my guest I spent on average 18 months per belt level on a 3x a week schedule except during the COVID lockdowns because I didn't have a gym for about a year so that added a little more time to me I don't know why people get so salty when someone give them a possible alternative to expedite the skill acquisition that they're looking to accomplish It has to be sunk cost, right? If there is a better way than it will feel like they have wasted their time until this point so we just need to deny that a better way can even exist But really it's just spiting yourself in the end, the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago the second best time to plant a tree is right now
>>194730People aren’t salty you just talk like a faggot and your shits all retarded.You act like your above techniques in your previous posts but when you’re actually describing how you would teach an arm bar it’s just training the technique point by point going over each minutia with the student until they get it. Guess what dummy that’s how everyone learns when they have one on one time with their instructor and it doesn’t necessitate the abolishment of the idea that the armbar is a specific technique. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.
>>194731 But the armbar as a concept really doesn't exist it's just a name we gave to a loose collection of configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable ways You need to identify what the invariance is in order to really understand what you mean by that and what you should be working on I speak the language of jiujitsu so I know what you're talking about when you refer to an armbar, but it's really just a physical conceptOpening a door all the way to the point it breaks over its hinges is physically the same mechanical action as bending an elbow backwards on itself This means opening a door is an arm bar, which is why we need to define precisely what we really mean "here is Plato's man" Side control is a common example within this discussion, what is side control Do the configurations of your arms matter, your legs, your partner's arms, how much they've turned into you or away from you come the angle at which you're going across their body, Tell me precisely at what point side control becomes North south controlTell me precisely at what point his frames are in place enough that you no longer have a side control Literally tell me down to the millimeter?Well it has so much variance that its indefinable so let's not use that term anymore because ask 100 people and you'll get 100 answers What are you really trying to achieve? Hes pinned chest to chest, with his far side arm controlled and my legs free. Ah see so that's way different from simply saying side control. now we have something to work with Just like with art how you start by drawing a simple shape and create iterations to turn it into a more complex shape, This works the same way BJJ in most places is taught like you draw a circle by first drawing a really complex face and then eracing the detailsyou can do what you want with your timeIt's a shame you immediately disregard a different more scientific learning theory based approach because some Brazilian guy says so
>>194742I didn’t even bother reading past the first paragraph>But the armbar as a concept really doesn't exist it's just a name we gave to a loose collection of configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable waysThis is exactly what I mean when I say you’re a pseudo intellectual midwit. I could apply this logic to fucking anything and say it doesn’t exist>books as a concept don’t really exist it’s just a name we gave to a loose collection paper configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable ways>sports as a concept don’t really exist it’s just a name we gave to a loose collection of game configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable ways>technology as a concept doesn’t really exist it’s just a name we gave to a loose collection of tool configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable ways>energy drinks as a concept don’t really exist it’s just a name we gave to a loose collection of drink configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable ways>punches as a concept don’t really exist it’s just a name we have to a loose collection of strike configurations that resemble each other in a few invariable waysJust shut the fuck up you retard.
>>194742>we're all just atoms manWhy are you asserting uncertainty where certainty exists? How is this a help and not a hindrance to understanding? I haven't seen this level of unironic deconstructionism since new atheism.
>>194742You aren't wrong when you bring up the constraints-lead approach, but you sound like an idiot the way you attempt to discuss it. >Opening a door all the way to the point it breaks over its hinges is physically the same mechanical action as bending an elbow backwards on itself>This means opening a door is an arm barTake your meds
>>194746It's not certainty and uncertainty, I'm using the term invariant deliberatelyInvariants are how we define our outcome If I want to break your elbow there are some invariants involved with that process I need to block the proximal and distal joints, and apply a force to the elbow. All the other things surrounding it don't matterAnd the bjj teacher is going to teach an armbar today with a kinura grip, then a butterfly grip, and 1 arm lapel grab, and 1 arm pocket grip grabbing the leg, and a shotgun grip, and legs crossed, and legs triangled, and 1 over 1 under and etc. etc. And you are going to get a lesson dedicated to all of those things individually plus however many more there are, you won't remember 3/4 of it once class is over, And you've wasted time going over some dumb ass made up configurations that the instructor probably doesn't even fucking do himself What I'm going to do is teach you how to break an elbow, give you exercises to practice it, and leave you to figure out what grip and what leg configuration and what else other variable changes you need to make in order for that to work and I don't really care which one you do And you are going to get 10x as much work done in the same time I want you to learn how to speak the language not just memorize phrases and responses>>194745The fact that you can similarly deconstruct other things doesn't mean this should not be deconstructed if you wish to learn it faster I'm not breaking it apart for the sake of breaking it apart, I'm breaking it apart to identify what is important and to trim the fat so with limited time you can optimize your education
>>194751 I used that as an example because it's ridiculous, Terms are meaningless if we don't define them properlyAnd in jiujitsu people throw terms around like it's a givenThats why I say what do you mean by that? If you speaking english Kimura and Americana are distinct movesIn Japanese use garami means both of themIt's best to describe things by the goal rather than colloquial terms
>>194755> The fact that you can similarly deconstruct other things doesn't mean this should not be deconstructed if you wish to learn it fasterExcept your not making things simpler you are making them convoluted and non-specific> I'm not breaking it apart for the sake of breaking it apart, You literally are though>I'm breaking it apart to identify what is important and to trim the fat so with limited time you can optimize your educationAre you a common core student or something? No wonder you’re retarded.
>>194756Nobody is confused about what an armbar is except for you evidently and we don’t need to go through mental gymnastics to define it without getting confused about whether or not pushing a door the wrong way is an armbar. Ever heard of the definist fallacy? That’s exactly what you’re doing when you’re insisting people can’t figure out what an armbar is unless you deconstruct the term into non-existence.
>>194757>>194761I realize new ideas that challenge the conventions some Brazilian guy you've never met came up with can be startling and difficult to understand at firstBy all means if you think pajama wrestling proficiency should take the same amount of time as a post-doctoral degree to achieve then keep doing what you're doing and resist what I tell youMakes no difference to me because I see the results on the mat as people come to me to give them some of my forbidden arcane knowledge and not the half dozen other people in the room with way more experience than I haveBecause my way gets them the results they want faster
>>194765Incoherent but you successfully derailed another thread with your delusions. Great work
>>194772I'm completely on topicPeople starting an argument and then losing and leaving isn't derailing anythingFeel free to give such sage advice to the struggling guy as "just keep showing up bro, it's supposed to be hard"I'm not the one complaining here
>>194765You are not doing anything new, you are describing training exactly the same way everyone else does one on one. You’re just making naming conventions convoluted by insisting techniques don’t actually exist and specificity is useless. I’ll repeat, you’re not half as smart as you think you are.>>194772This also though, I’m done arguing with you, you’re clearly retarded and unwilling to see reason.>>194774>I talked in circles like a babbling moron until everyone left! Hooray! I win again!
>>194781>describing training exactly the same way everyone else does one on oneThat's just factually untrue but even if it was true for 1 on 1 I can do this with a groupLike I said though the results speak for themselves. My method will get people to black belt level in the same timeframe most get to purpleIt's just a hobby after all so if time is not a currency youre dealing in and you enjoy being a drillyboi repping triangles on a compliant partner then go right aheadKarate class is appealing to a lot of people for similar reasons
>>194784>results speak for themselvesHow'd you do at pans? How'd you do at trials?
>>194785why would I want to do that?
>>194498Discouraging newbies is beyond fucking gay
>>194792People who do don’t train anyways
>>194788>why would I want to prove my skills in active competition after saying my method was better than everyone else’s Lmfao
>>194805sorry I'm not following, what does destroying my health with steroids and overuse injuries for the entertainment of others and no monetary compensation prove exactly?you mean to tell me people pay to watch these contests as spectators, and the participants don't get any of the money and in fact PAY TO PARTICIPATE?it's an IQ test or what?
>>194806>bro I’m the best at jiujitsu, let me tell you how to do jiujitsu>doesn’t actually do jiujitsu My sides anon, please stop before I lose them
>>194765Answer honestly: how many invitations to the kumite have you turned down because you "just had other plans"? Followup question, how many secret missions have you been approached for by government agencies so secret that they don't even have letters?
>>194807not sure where I ever claimed to be the best at jiujitsu. I mean I'm better than you no doubt, but my claim is my learning methodology will increase your grains faster than the monkey see monkey do "jus keep coming to class my fren" method most people useand like for example, there's no doubt I'm better at jiujitsu than nicky rod for example. But more goes into winning matches than who has greater technical abilities, for example I don't abuse anabolic steroids, he's younger than me, and also bigger toobut if you came to a seminar hosted by us there's no doubt you'd leave mine with more useful skills than his>>194808come to think of it I've only turned down one fight, I was approached about a boxing match and declined. I never claimed to be a boxer so I thought it was weird but was down for it anyway, my grandpa was a pro boxer back in the day but I was advised against it suggesting they were planning to use me as a stone and I didn't have anything to gain by doing it
>>194810Nobody cares anymore anon, you don’t even participate in the sport you pretend to be an expert in training. Really embarrassing stuff.
>>194819>caring about sport jiujitsuthat's the only embarrassing thing here
>>194821You should’ve gotten your black belt in aikido. Sounds more your speed.
>>194822I know it's really important to you to score pointslike man it's so important that you pass the guard and get 2 points! why? because some brazilian guy said that's an important thing to do!oh and make sure to get hooks on the back! why?because a brazilian guy said that's worth 4 points of course!!even though theres a half dozen other leg configurations stronger than hooks from the back?but that doesn't score points! I have to score poooooints!! I'm scoooorrrinnnggg!!!literally you right now
>>194823>t. No fightsCry more
>>194830>he calls jiujitsu matches fightshow much more cringe could you get bro?rolling in the gym and rolling in a high school basketball court are totally different, you see in the gym you didn't pay to have some brazilian guy tell you who he thinks did better at the end!I don't like that you're making me be so mean to youI don't want to bully, but sometimes bullying is necessary to correct bad behavior so if I have to be the one to do it then so be it. It's for your own good
>>194832>says jiujitsu matches are less than fights>wont even do jiujitsu matches though because he’s afraid of getting hurtYou realize this makes you look even worse right? Seriously my sides can only take so much.
>>194833now it's just starting to look like you're the one that doesn't really understand what goes into competitionsyou talked about ADCC and pans. If you're legitimately trying to make a run at those then training is your full time job, which is really retarded because it's a job that doesn't pay any money.I guess your exposure to athletes is limited so I'll let you know, getting injured at competitions isn't the problem, it's the injuries you're going to get in the gym preparing for them which you're going to neglect by continuing to over train, making things that may have healed on their own now require surgery to fix, and the overall pain and poor quality of life. That's not even mentioning all the hormonal problems you're looking at from rubber band dieting and weight cuts along with the aforementioned special acai which is mandatory to use if you even want to have a chance these daysgordon ryan is one of the maybe 5 guys in the world able to make a living off of this shit and look at the cost to his health to do it. The guy is in and out of the hospital with infections and needs to take anti-nausea medication every day because he cant digest food properly anymoreany time he has a match scheduled now it's a 50/50 shot if he'll medically be able to do it. and thats the BEST case scenario for the guy at the top of the sportnow imagine all that shit except you don't have the money and gf with a giant gear clit to come home to
>>194834Cope.
>>194836good luck to you hopefully you can get that first stripe on your blue belt soon
>>194838Seethe
now that the retard has burned himself out the adults can start talking againeffectively what it comes down to is just because a person has a skill doesn't mean they're good at relaying the information, and since most athletes fall into the category of low IQ individuals the only way they can teach something is to say "just look at what I do and then copy it bro"do yourself a favor and stop listening to what the "instructor" is telling you to do all the time, you need to be focused on personal skill goals you set for yourself. If you're forced to do static karate drilling and kata the way most bjj schools do and that's your only choice then just play along, then use the open mat time for personal development which is where you'll see actual improvements
>>194719>You will learn much faster and much more completely with your understanding If you are the one making the discoveriesI feel like there's a middleground between the brazil monkey see monkey do approach and the hands-off approach. Mindless repetition doesn't build critical thinking, but fumbling around in the dark with the occasional hint isn't leveraging the expert's knowledge efficiently.
>>194881 It shouldn't be fumbling around in the dark, the instructor should be putting specific constraints on the player to Force a desired behavior to emerge I think it's really a more active teaching style because the instructions will change depending on how the class is behaving As an example I will give an exercise to play with Then we bring it in and I ask everybody is there something they learned during that process, or is there something you maybe had trouble with during that which stands out to you? And it's a group brain storm at that point where students can mention hey I realized putting my hand over here was a really effective frame. Great and someone else can say oh I was having trouble moving towards the back because of where his knee wasOk anyone have an idea about what he can do there?"His right arm is free so try posting the elbow to give yourself a better angle?" Ok let's go back and do the exercise again, keep in mind what we just talked about aboutDoing it this way is immediate feedback dozens of times in a short amount of time
>>194498I bet you can't fight for shit and are a DYEL as well.
>>194872Great advice.