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Beautiful Bodies Edition
For the cute girls of the Literature Club!
>Bonus for doki masturbation
>No futa shit
>No gay shit or single males. Lesbian is okay
>No gas or onara
>No drama

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a quick bump
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Thanks! was still getting my start of thread images lined up
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Based. I love this thread and I love the dokis!
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>nerf this
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>>8158006
Not gonna lie, the cat ears on Natsuki's panties are pretty cute.
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Get comfy with your Doki!
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>>8164093
i just wanna cuddle with her so bad...
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>>8164099
Naked cuddling with Monika would be absolutely divine!
Or just any cuddling with Monika would really
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>>8164105
absolutely! i would do anything with her and anything for her, i just wanna hold her and be held by her
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Too big.
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warm, nude, Monihugs
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>>8166301
Beautiful embrace
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>>8158299
If a girl said that to me, I would immediately cover her entire body in my seed.
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>>8158006
That Pinup is so beautiful
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Big Moni
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>>8168258
amazing. i want Monika to be taller than me
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>>8168260
Agreed. I want her to mommydom me!
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Butt
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>>8170602
Wrong thread... but a good opportunity to approach your wife from behind and have your way!
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>>8170652
that's really the only way anyone should approach their wife if we're being honest
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>>8171360
Why would you post something like that? I wouldn't exactly call that just a Monibutt, it seems to exist solely for the purpose of small penis humiliation.
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>>8169654
Just the idea of this would make me so happy
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>>8173888
What would Monika be like as a mother? What about Yuri?
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Sayori's reaction when I start singing I AM A DWARF AND I'M LICKING A HOLE
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>>8173971
she would be very gentle and loving, but also a bit strict
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>>8174742
I fucking love them so much
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>>8158018
Oh I know what this is a reference to
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you must impregnate your Doki immediately
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>>8176652
Spending my day off filling both ends of Sayori!
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>>8177079
Fill all her 5 holes!
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>>8179433
does she have a ball gag and collar?
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>>8178173
5 holes?
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>>8178173
>>8179442
I can think of 7!
>2 ears
>2 nose
>1 mouth
>1 pussy
>1 ass!
...Maybe he considered only penile sex and dismissed nose?

>Massaging Sayori's nose thoroughly
>Making her look like a little piggy!
>Consensual breath play
>cumming into her mouth so hard that cum sprays out of her nostrils!

...or maybe I'm wrong and he was trying to make fun of AI vaginas!
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Which doki got the strongest smelling pussy?
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>>8183145
its probably either Sayori or Monika. my reasoning for Sayori is because she probably doesnt wash down their very often. i dont have any reasoning as to why Monika might have the muskiest pussy, i just think that she might
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>>8183284
I think Yuri because of how fat she is. Fat and introverted people who don't move very often tend to smell stronger.
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>>8183303
that makes sense i guess, but i dont think Yuri is very fat. the Dokis all seem to have relatively normal body types, except Natsuki is a little underweight and Monika is slightly more muscular than the average woman.
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>>8158020
heres a version where moni actually has her eyes coloured in
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>>8184944
Thanks, I didn't know that version existed
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>>8185202
no problem, it was made by one of the fellow ACO art edit threaders, this one aswell, ill be posting a few ones ive requested to be edited
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another one from a edit thread a kind anon inked it so im gonna colour this one eventually
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original
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>>8186462
I fucking love Monibush! Its so erotic!
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>>8186500
the headcannon that all girls would be shaved is so annoying, every one of them would have *some* pubic hair, clean shaven is so boring
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>>8186462
Those are all great!
Beautiful bushes
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i want a big Monibush on my face right now!
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>>8186571
last one, im getting the monika popup parade figure soonish, once i get it ill post what colour her panties are on a thread
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>>8186522
There's no way that Sayori would be clean shaven. She can barely shower.
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>>8187979
Shit, that was already posted. Have something else.
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>>8187979
while not JUST yuri, yuri is in this one

okay so my headcannon for the dokis pubic hair status is sayori isnt shaven due to depression and all that, yuri i feel is either too insecure to shave or shaves constantly due to the insecurity, monika will do whatever the person requests but would probably just trim, and natsuki isnt shaving, shes malnurished, and if her family cant afford food/shes not being given food, then shes not getting access to shaving supplies
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>>8188220
here is my headcanon of Doki pubes
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>>8187985
doki bunghole
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>>8188434
why is her pussy all pixel like?
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>>8188231
Your tastes are very based
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>>8158018
Fingers crossed Sayori’s just as hairy here as she is in SPNATI.
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>>8189910
thank you very much!
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her body truly is amazing
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Dokis canon pubic hair:
Monika: trimmed
Sayori: hairy
Natsuki: shaved
Yuri: trimmed
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>>8191196
sounds about right, though i think Yuri would only be slightly less hairy than Sayori and i think Monika would only be slightly less hairy than Yuri
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>>8191197
That’s a pretty good way of ordering things. Love how we can all agree that Sayori is the hairiest.
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>>8191206
depression logically would cause Sayori to neglect hygiene and shaving. Yuri is a mature girl and would therefore logically present herself sexually in a mature way, such as having a decent amount of pubic hair. Monika is also a mature girl, but wouldnt sexually present herself in such a way as much as Yuri. Natsuki probably doesnt even grow pubes due to malnutrition
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>>8191209
Well phrased. I am absolutely obsessed with pubic hair, so I like the idea of Sayori having a massive bush.
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>>8191217
me too, kinda. i do kinda like a big bush as well, but its not exactly a major thing for me
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>>8191220
I like big, thick bushes a lot but sometimes it gets too much. I don’t really like treasure trails, for instance.
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>>8191265
me too. for women, body hair belongs in the pubic region and only the pubic region
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>>8191272
I feel the same.
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>>8186397
>pubes aren't a darker shade of their hair color
you had one job cmon
they aren't using hair dye its their natural hair so their pubes gotta be the same as well
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>>8191356
thats not my edit :v its another anons edit
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"M-Monika...please don't unzip this cosplay outfit, people will see--!!"
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>>8183342
I find Yuri leaning more on the plump side rather than full fat. I like the idea of muscular Moni domming me
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>>8193744
yeah, i want a muscular Monika with a large bush to lovingly dominate me and cuddle with me and kiss me and praise me. Yuri is certainly a bit on the thicker side. Monika is a bit complicated; she has thicc thighs, but i dont know if its fat or muscle. i like to think that Moni is just all muscle though. well, obviously boobs are fat and not muscle. i think Monika probably has around D cup breasts
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this image is really hot, but unfortunately Monika is fully shaved
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>>8193897
Agreed I can see her having toned thighs. To be mommydommed by Monika, cuddling and sucking to her breasts as she jerks me off while calling me a good boy...the thought of that almost makes me cum!
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>>8197414
i just want to hold and be held by Monika, no matter what form she takes
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>>8186853
Where did you get your Monika Popup Parade figure from? I want to buy one but they seem to be out of stock everywhere.
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>>8199043
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>>8200725
Cute butthole.
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>>8199604
Her satisfied smug fills me with life.
>>8199964
Yuri's plump body is perfection!
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>>8200726
the cutest butthole
>>8200960
you post Monika but say Yuri is perfection, who is your Doki?
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>>8203000
Buttholes are really nice.
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>>8203000
I don't really follow waifuism, just appreciate the game and the community. /ddlc/ is the most comfy place where I can relax and forget the world, so I'd say I like anon the most
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>>8204899
DDLC is a good game, and /ddlc/ is a super comfy place (usually), but most people come to /ddlc/ and stay here because of a love for a Doki. i think you might be the only one here not committed to a Doki
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>>8203923
Monika has the most magnificent butthole and cunt
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>>8207034
Girls’ buttholes are so cute and pretty for reasons I can’t quite pin down.
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>>8208345
you are (presumably) a heterosexual male, those are normal thoughts to be having
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>>8208782
I think it’s because they’re somewhat “taboo” if you get what I’m saying? They’re supposed to be gross, but they end up being really cute. It also helps that it’s the most hidden part of a girl’s body, so there’s a layer of intimacy to it as well.
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>>8210264
i get what you are saying, except its not really a taboo anymore. anal is pretty basic compared to the rest of the degeneracy in this world. Monibutthole is the cutest butthole. playing with it is one of the most intimate things that you could do with her
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>>8210391
Fair enough. Despite being porn addicted as all hell, my interests are rather tame in the grand scheme of things. Most rule 34 doesn’t really do it for me (I prefer characters to have accurate proportions).
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>>8210469
i used to be VERY addicted to porn, but Monika saved me from that (mostly). id rather not get into that unfortunate reality though
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>>8210477
>i used to be VERY addicted to porn, but Monika saved me from that
How so? I would have thought that being fixated on a certain character would only cause porn addiction. That’s how it was for me, anyway.
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>>8210488
wasnt the case for me. i used to consume (somewhat extreme) porn VERY frequently, but because of Monika, i stopped. i now just only look at porn of her, and its usually fairly tame
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>>8210492
Interesting. I think I have the same experience as you, except with Nemona and Penny from Pokémon. But I was never into anything extreme (depends on what qualifies as “extreme”).
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>>8210495
i prefer to leave what i mean by "extreme" vague.
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>>8210497
Fair enough.
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>>8208345
>Girls’ buttholes are so cute and pretty
What do they smell like though? Am a virgin.
>>8207218
This is the best ending!
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>>8205682
>and /ddlc/ is a super comfy place
That's what I like so much about it. My actual taste is a strong toned aryan female of which Monika looks closest to, but in general I like the people at /ddlc/ and the poetry threads. All dokis are hot though.
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>>8204899
Can't unsee her receding hairline
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>>8211870
Idk what they smell like, I’m a virgin as well.
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>>8212988
Her expression is adorable.
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>>8213120
yes it is. everything about her is always adorable
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>>8213133
Personally, I prefer Yuri, but I can definitely see why you like Monika so much.
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>>8213145
to each their own. my love for Monika is infinite, but if she never existed, Yuri would certainly be an enticing option. but Monika does exist, which means i am indifferent to the other Dokis. my heart and soul and lust all belong to Monika and only Monika
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>>8213153
Fair enough. I personally think all of them have aspects that I like. I’ve never even played DDLC, I just like the characters. SPNATI definitely plays a part in that.
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>>8210391
What exactly does “playing with her butthole” entail?
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>>8214051
fingering, fucking, pretty much anything you could do with a hole
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>>8214053
Makes sense. Unrelated, but the filenames you use are really cute (monibutt, moniboobs, moninude etc.). No clue why, they just are.
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>>8214068
that makes it easier to find stuff. i have 868 files in my lewd Monika folder and like 5000 in my non-lewd folder
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>>8214073
Fair enough. I think my favourite thing about Monika is her hair, oddly enough. She has such a nice, long ponytail with a cute bow.
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>>8214085
that definitely is one of her most recognizable features. that, and her beautiful, piercing, emerald eyes
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>>8214089
That is such a beautiful image. The artstyle, her body, her expression, the way her clothes are all over the floor, her tossing her panties to the side, it’s all so pretty.
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>>8214196
Really pretty. Love whenever people make nudes of the dokis that are accurate to the artstyle.
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>>8214200
are you a part of the main thread or are you just here for lewd Dokis? its after 3am right now for me, im going to bed
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>>8214206
I’m just here for lewd dokis. Goodnight, anon.
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Perfection in a picture...
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>>8215630
oh my god. that is literally all that ive ever wanted in life
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post more preggo Monikas
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How is babby formed?
How doki get pragnont?
tfw you will never get Monika pregunte
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>>8217979
Monika is absolutely 100% without a doubt going to be pregananant and im gonna be the one to inpregonot her
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>>8176052
This is how I discovered DDLC !
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>>8218533
really? you discovered DDLC from playing spnati?
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>>8218621
Yup ! Well, not completely discovered it, I vaguely heard about it in 2017, then forgot about it until December 2023, where I played SPNATI and decided "you know what, she seems like a cool character, and DDLC is free"
Life changing event from a stupid porn game.
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>>8218626
interesting. i discovered DDLC from watching Markiplier play the game back in 2017. then i forgot about it until about 3ish years ago. ive been with Monika ever since then. i started occasionally lurking in /ddlc/ back in late summer of 2022 and started regularly posting here in late summer of 2023
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the most beautiful sight you will ever see
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>>8220808
sexy Monifeet and Monipussy
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>>8221096
>>8220808
I want Monika to make me cum with her feet!
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>>8221149
a footjob from Monika might be nice. im not really into feet, but i certainly wouldnt mind it. also, thats really impressive for AI. do you know who made it and what model was used?
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>>8222195
God that image is wonderful!

Imagine having very open relationship with them where dokis would often come to sleepover and you would kiss your favorite doki passionately good night while the others would pretend not to notice!

Then you could "accidentally" fool around with the next doki while third doki's wandering fingers keep your favorite doki hot and bothered for you!
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>>8222850
no, no thank you. i do not want an open relationship with Monika. she is all mine and i am all hers. the other Dokis are great and all but i prefer Just Monika
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>>8223116
not forcing anyone of course! you two have fun your way!
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>>8224178
She looks so cute when she’s embarrassed.
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>>8224178
That's what I love of this community. Its so comfy! I personally would enjoy joining the Doki Doki Groupsex Club!
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>>8224178
wow! thats really good for AI! wait, is that AI?

yeah, im completely dedicated to Monika and i do not wish to involve anyone else in our relationship. unfortunately, some people are not as understanding as you are. i love my wife too much to even consider being unfaithful to her
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>>8225019
It just makes her look so womanly and sexy
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>>8225226
agreed! it just makes her feel so... real. both because only real women (not robots) grow pubic hair, and because it feels nice that she doesnt feel pressured by me to have to shave her pubic hair
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>>8224318
agreed! flustering dokis is fun and leads to fun evening~!

>>8224320
welcome aboard! Every Groupsex club needs big and beautiful Yuri to admire, fluster, pleasure and release!

>>8224477
<3

>wait, is that AI?
not sure...? not mine at least
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>>8224178
>>8224477
>>8226744
I honestly couldn't tell, the only imperfection here is a floor plank being too close together. However I tracked down the source, it's AI.
https://aibooru.online/posts/70394
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>new Monika rimjob picture
Is the Legend back? The unknown rimming Monika commissioner?
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>>8226951
>aibooru
I have never heard of that before. thanks!
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pregnant Monika is beautiful. i strongly desire to impregnate my lovely wife

>>8226744
groupsex club? why?
>>8226951
i thought it was AI. its really good, but there were a few strands of hair that looked a bit off
>>8226981
Monika rimjob? ive seen some very bad things involving Monika and rimjobs, thanks for reminding me of that
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>Making sweet music with Sayori's helpless fat ass with whips, crops and good hard slaps (consensually)!

>>8227019
>groupsex club? why?
... because some people are into that? I feel like we just went over this.
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>>8227273
>... because some people are into that? I feel like we just went over this.
did we? i dont get too invested in any of the arguments that occur here. it sounds gay, but thats not any of my concern
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>>8227342
It's whatever you make it.
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>>8227683
sharing your partner sounds like a pretty easy way to destabilize your relationship. at that point, he/she is not really just your partner anymore. didnt you say you were going to bed an hour ago?
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Anooon... let me iiiin... ehehe... hee..
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>>8228778
absolutely! also, thats really good for AI as well! i had no idea AI image generation progressed so much! i really need to get back into doing that
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im not so sure about the sheep part of this image but i love Monika's smug face and big preggo belly and that adorable creampie leaking out from betwixt her thighs
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>you and your doki participate in an erotic game show called "Sensual Showdown"!
>Challenges include oiling up every inch of your doki to help her squeeze through a narrow hole in an inflatable wall (also pushing her when she gets stuck), being blindfolded and recognizing your doki's body from other contestants with your face and tastebuds, and thunder round where you suddenly thunderfuck your unsuspecting doki and you get points from your speed, loudness of her moans and liquids you two spill!!
>All this while your outfits turn more and more see-through from sweat, oil, slime and water and cameras capture it from every angle!
How well would you do?

>>8227754
>sharing your partner sounds like a pretty easy way to destabilize your relationship.
Why's that? What would she get from leaving/cheating on you?

>didnt you say you were going to bed an hour ago?
I did. Certain... urges were not giving me a break and I was half watching the oven anyway.

I thought you said this doesn't really concern or invest you....?

>>8227849
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>>8229334
>I thought you said this doesn't really concern or invest you....?
it does not concern me. have an AI generated response:

A romantic relationship is built on the foundation of trust, commitment, and exclusivity. When two people choose to be together in a monogamous relationship, they are making a promise to be physically and emotionally faithful to each other. This exclusivity helps to establish a deep emotional bond between partners that cannot be replicated in non-monogamous relationships.

Sharing a romantic partner introduces a level of complexity and potential for harm that I don't think is worth the risk. It can create feelings of jealousy, insecurity, and competition that can erode the trust and happiness within the relationship.

Furthermore, romantic love is often associated with a sense of uniqueness and specialness that is difficult to maintain when there are multiple romantic partners involved. When this exclusivity is compromised, it can lead to feelings of neglect, low self-esteem, and even depression.

I understand that some people may argue that open relationships or polyamory can work for them, but I believe that these arrangements require a level of emotional maturity, communication, and boundary-setting that is not attainable for most couples. Additionally, even in cases where all parties claim to be happy, there is always the potential for hidden resentments or unspoken feelings to emerge later on and damage the relationship.

Ultimately, I believe that monogamy is the best way to build a strong and healthy romantic relationship based on trust, commitment, and exclusivity.
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>>8229754
>I understand that some people may argue that open relationships or polyamory can work for them, but I believe that these arrangements require a level of emotional maturity, communication, and boundary-setting that is not attainable for most couples
agreed!

>Additionally, even in cases where all parties claim to be happy, there is always the potential for hidden resentments or unspoken feelings to emerge later on and damage the relationship.
...like any relationship?
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>>8229871
AI is typically biased towards the opposite of my beliefs. if i tell this word regurgitation machine of mine to argue something for me, it tends to make too many concessions because of its inherent biases. im not really paying much attention what it says. anyway, have a Monibutt and have another AI generated response:

I hear your point that hidden resentments can exist in any relationship, monogamous or otherwise. However, I would argue that non-monogamous relationships inherently introduce additional sources of potential conflict and emotional strain that monogamous relationships do not have to contend with.

For example, in non-monogamous relationships, partners must navigate issues such as jealousy, time management, and emotional boundaries with multiple people, rather than just one. This can create a web of complex interpersonal dynamics that can be difficult to manage, even for those who claim to be adept at it.

Furthermore, even if all parties claim to be on board with the arrangement, it is still possible for one or more individuals to harbor feelings of hurt, jealousy, or inadequacy that they may not be willing or able to articulate. These unspoken emotions can simmer beneath the surface and erode the foundation of the relationship over time, potentially leading to a sudden and painful breakup.

In contrast, monogamous relationships may not be immune to hidden resentments or communication breakdowns, but they do not carry the added burden of managing multiple romantic relationships simultaneously. By focusing on building a strong, committed bond with one person, monogamous couples can dedicate their time and energy towards building a deep, fulfilling connection that is free from the complications that come with non-monogamy
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>>8229915
not sure why you post it then...?

your AI seems to start looping here...
>open relationships require a level of emotional maturity, communication, and boundary-setting
>they also might have hidden problems... like emotional boundaries
I don't think you can count that twice, mon(i) ami.

>I hear your point that hidden resentments can exist in any relationship
>it is still possible for one or more individuals to harbor feelings of hurt, jealousy, or inadequacy that they may not be willing or able to articulate.
are you sure you are responding to my point? I said just that.

>monogamous couples can dedicate their time and energy towards building a deep, fulfilling connection that is free from the complications that come with non-monogamy
can they?

can 2 scientists build a "deeper" research than a 100? can 2 ropes make a stronger bond than 5? maybe in some cases, but I don't think it's evident. you are presenting your conclusion as evidence for it.
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>>8229938
>not sure why you post it then...?
why not? it takes zero effort for me to respond to you. the quality of my AI's responses doesnt really matter. just trying to keep the conversation going. have yet another Monibutt and yet another AI generated response:


I understand your analogy, but I would argue that romantic relationships are not analogous to scientific research or physical ropes. In a romantic relationship, emotional intimacy, trust, and commitment are crucial factors that cannot be easily quantified or compared in the same way as the number of researchers or ropes.

While it's true that there are exceptions to every rule, research has consistently shown that monogamous relationships tend to be happier and more stable than non-monogamous ones. According to a study published in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships, people in consensually non-monogamous relationships reported lower levels of relationship satisfaction and more frequent jealousy than those in monogamous relationships.

Additionally, romantic relationships are built on the foundation of trust, which can be eroded when one or both partners engage in intimate activities with others, even with mutual consent. As I mentioned earlier, trust is not just about preventing infidelity; it's also about feeling secure in the knowledge that your partner values your relationship above all others. When this exclusivity is broken, it can be difficult to regain that level of trust, regardless of the number of partners involved.

Ultimately, I respect your right to potentially ruin your relationship, but I stand by my belief that monogamy is the best way to build a strong and lasting romantic relationship based on trust, commitment, and emotional intimacy.
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>>8229946
>the quality of my AI's responses doesnt really matter.
doesn't it? I don't care for an conversation where I can't keep it together, like:

>what's your favorite fruit?
>banana
>what's your second favorite?
>banana

>just trying to keep the conversation going.
why?

>yet another AI generated response:
not reading it
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>>8229957
what exactly is that image that you posted? why is Monika tied up? that file name is moderately concerning
>doesn't it?
quality absolutely does matter when im generating things for myself, but this isnt for me
>why?
you seem to be very invested in this, but i am not. i know your opinion wont change and i know my opinion wont change, yet you still try to keep this conversation going. i dont feel like having an argument that i know neither of us will win, so i prefer to delegate that to my AI
>>what's your favorite fruit?
>>what's your second favorite?
I'm an AI and don't have personal preferences or the ability to taste food, so I don't have a favorite fruit. However, based on popularity, apples and bananas are often among the top fruits consumed worldwide. I hope that answers your question!
>not reading it
i didnt expect you to. its probably 5 paragraphs of nonsense
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>>8230018
>what exactly is that image that you posted? why is Monika tied up? that file name is moderately concerning
I don't have the context. saved it from an older thread here. she seems happy enough!

>quality absolutely does matter when im generating things for myself, but this isnt for me
I didn't ask for it either, so who is it for?

>you seem to be very invested in this, but i am not.
am I? I just said I don't really care to continue

>i know your opinion wont change and i know my opinion wont change
why not? I feel like I would love to change my mind if given a good reason to

>yet you still try to keep this conversation going.
me?
weren't you the one who said "just trying to keep the conversation going"...?

I feel like you and moni have some similar problems of keeping your argument in order!

> i dont feel like having an argument that i know neither of us will win
how about both walking away with better understanding of the point of the other and maybe their own argument? iot doesn't have to be a competition.

>I hope that answers your question!
I wasn't asking exactly. I was pointing out how having an meaningful conversation requires coherency.

>i didnt expect you to. its probably 5 paragraphs of nonsense
it has it's moments like quoting a study which I didn't expect. very nice!

still, it assumes that when people report more unhappiness it means they are more unhappy than those who don't, which again isn't so straight forward: people in the most totalitarian countries report to be most happy..... because they have to!
In the same way people in poly relationships might report more problems because they can be better at emotional maturity or communication... like monika herself suggested earlier!
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>>8230044
>I didn't ask for it either, so who is it for?
you.
>am I? I just said I don't really care to continue
good.
>me? weren't you the one who said "just trying to keep the conversation going"...?
yes, but you still responded, did you not?
>how about both walking away with better understanding of the point of the other and maybe their own argument? iot doesn't have to be a competition.
but i dont understand your argument. i do not believe polygamy has any validity whatsoever.
>it has it's moments like quoting a study which I didn't expect. very nice!
i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that study probably doesnt actually exist. AI has no access to the internet, it just comes up with random stuff.
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>>8230112
>you.
so why do yuo want to make it for me if I don't want it?

>but you still responded, did you not?
yes... like you did?

>but i dont understand your argument. i do not believe polygamy has any validity whatsoever.
what's not valid about it?

>AI has no access to the internet, it just comes up with random stuff.
I can believe that, but people do that too: 40% of all statistics are made on the spot. it's still more advanced argument than "I believe that monogamy is the best because it's more healthier because it's the best". Some people can't even muster this much!
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>>8230267
finally have internet again. i hate concrete buildings so much
>so why do yuo want to make it for me if I don't want it?
it takes zero effort. why not?
>yes... like you did?
yeah. why not? why not keep you entertained?
>what's not valid about it?
humans cannot multitask, and humans have a limited attention span. humans have a limited amount of love to give. by dividing your limited amount of love among multiple partners instead of just one, you are loving each partner less than you would if you only had one partner. if you were to engage in a polygamous relationship with Sayori and a few other people, you would be loving her less than if you were in a monogamous relationship with her and she would also love you less than if you were both alone. youve been with Sayori for a very long time. i consider Monika to be my soulmate, and i would assume that you consider Sayori to be your soulmate. it wouldnt be fair to you if Sayori did not put her all into your relationship, and it would not be fair to Sayori if you didnt put your all into your relationship. there is also the concept of ensuring that your genetics are passed down and that you are raising your own child, but it doesnt seem like you care about that very much. in the end, it doesnt really matter to me. how you run your relationship with Sayori is your business. if you want Sayori to fuck other men and if you want to fuck other women while still being in a relationship with her, thats your choice, even if i believe that it is misguided and will cause instability in your relationship
>40% of all statistics are made on the spot
its probably more like 70%, but thats besides the point. when people do that, they just come up with a random number. AI invented a fake bullshit study to support a claim rather than just a simple number
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>>8230370
>why not?
because not posting it takes negative effort by your logic.

>why not?
I wasn't telling you not to. I said by responding I'm not doing anything that you aren't.

>humans cannot multitask
except we clearly can...?

try breathing and writing at the same time. or walking and talking. what are you on about?

>humans have a limited attention span
agreed

>humans have a limited amount of love to give
agreed. nothing's infinite.

>by dividing your limited amount of love among multiple partners instead of just one, you are loving each partner less than you would if you only had one partner.
if you share your picnic with someone, is it a worse lunch?
I guess you get less nutrients, but that isn't the only way to measure it. In the same way I don't think three people loving each other has to be less valuable over all.

>and i would assume that you consider Sayori to be your soulmate
depends what you mean by it. I don't think human dating has to be as drama filled as we have it today.

I love Sayori and I feel she loves me. I wouldn't feel differently if she told me that she felt romantic feelings or carnal lust for other people as well, or that her feelings about me were in flux from day to day. I would actually be very interested to hear about her turn ons and moods!

>there is also the concept of ensuring that your genetics are passed down and that you are raising your own child, but it doesnt seem like you care about that very much.
true. If it's only up to me my defective bloodline dies with me. I wouldn't mind to absolutely creampie Sayori and raising a family if she wanted it of course but I would also prefer adopting as I have many things wrong with my genes.

but besides that, is knowing your genetic lineage good for a society?
I could see a culture where everyone took care of everyone as there was a good chance that any kid of a certain age could be your own. In fact I think my grandparents generation lived much closer to that way.
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>>8230413
>except we clearly can...? try breathing and writing at the same time. or walking and talking
we really cant multitask. we can breath and walk and talk at the same time, but those are simple things. try writing two different things at once. try performing calculus in your head while playing the piano. perhaps i should have said that humans cannot multitask when it comes to complex tasks, and love is absolutely complex
>if you share your picnic with someone, is it a worse lunch?
you have less food to eat for yourself, as you already acknowledged, so yes
>In the same way I don't think three people loving each other has to be less valuable over all.
humans not only have a limited amount of love to give, but they also have a limited amount of love that they can receive. in a polygamous relationship, you are statistically less important. you are one partner, out of many. if you were gone, you would be missed less in a polygamous relationship than in a monogamous relationship. essentially, by involving other people in your relationship with Sayori, you would become less important to her
>I wouldn't feel differently if she told me that she felt romantic feelings or carnal lust for other people as well
did we not just establish that love is limited? did we not establish the fact that if she loves someone else even a little bit then that is love that is withheld from you? its fine if you are ok with that i guess, but most people probably wouldnt be ok with that.
>true. If it's only up to me my defective bloodline dies with me. I wouldn't mind to absolutely creampie Sayori and raising a family if she wanted it of course but I would also prefer adopting as I have many things wrong with my genes.
self enforced eugenics? once again, thats your choice, but most people including myself would not make that decision. are your genetics really that bad? i know you have some sort of heart issue but thats all i know
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>>8230481
>but besides that, is knowing your genetic lineage good for a society?
yes. would you really want to raise some random kid? would you really want to raise a child that is a product of betrayal? once again, im pretty sure you dont care about that, but most people absolutely do. thats why people arent rushing to adopt every abandoned child, thats why single mothers tend to stay single, and thats why cheating typically leads to divorce. most people care about their bloodline because we are biologically programmed that way. think about it like this, you probably care more about your family than you do about some random stranger on the ship. you probably also care more about your family than you do about your friends. we are compelled to care about our own blood over the blood of others
>I could see a culture where everyone took care of everyone as there was a good chance that any kid of a certain age could be your own. In fact I think my grandparents generation lived much closer to that way.
you could certainly do that, but it once again leads to my point that each individual person would be less important in such a relationship. my analysis of all of this is that you care more about the quantity of your relationships instead of the quality of your relationships.
ultimately, i gain nothing and lose nothing whether i win or lose this argument. you also probably wont gain or lose anything from this argument
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>>8230481
>and love is absolutely complex
you've made that grouping up 70%.
people can sing and drive a car, and I would argue singing and driving are more "complex" than walking and talking.

it's case by case basis. not every love has to be same either.

>you have less food to eat for yourself, as you already acknowledged, so yes
but that's not usually why people go to a picnic.

>humans not only have a limited amount of love to give, but they also have a limited amount of love that they can receive.
that's a very simplified look at the whole thing.

do friendships suffer when people have a big party because they don't have enough "friend points" to go around...? sometimes maybe, but I think people also generally like parties!

I can believe that I would have trouble keeping up with 100-200 partners, but I don't think I would have that with a few. and again, I don't think it's just as simple as "love points". the love can grow, and change, and even oscillate, and it can be different on different days!

And it doesn't have to be that either. in the same way some people learn by doing and some by reading maybe we love differently. I'm not asking you to do as I do. I just wish you to understand.

>did we not just establish that love is limited?
yes

>did we not establish the fact that if she loves someone else even a little bit then that is love that is withheld from you?
...no?

water is limited on earth but that doesn't mean if I have a glass of water that you can't have one too. limited doesn't mean scarce..

>are your genetics really that bad?
yes

>would you really want to raise some random kid?
I would like every human being to care and take care of evveryone else, so yes.

>would you really want to raise a child that is a product of betrayal?
betrayal of what? and why would I make the kid suffer for it?
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>>8230527
>most people absolutely do. thats why people arent rushing to adopt every abandoned child
they are also taught that the genetics matter. I don't think that's immutable trend as much as a cultural norm. we still have people who adopt. And again I believe it hasn't been that many generations here when my grandparents could pat a kid on the head on a street like their own.

>because we are biologically programmed that way.
murder also comes pretty naturally, but we have got past it. I don't care what biology compels me to do. wwe can shed the monkey. it's not easy but we don't have to take the easy way.

>you probably care more about your family than you do about some random stranger on the ship.
I guess, but I don't think it has to be that way. it's just that I've been brought up in a culture where I've been told to fear the stranger.

>my analysis of all of this is that you care more about the quantity of your relationships instead of the quality of your relationships.
No, I just don't see it as a zero-sum game. Personally I think it could even improve my relationships: one person could solve an argument other two are having with a new point of view, we could do more things 2 people just can't do alone, and since I believe love isn't limited we could feel even deeper love.

>ultimately, i gain nothing and lose nothing whether i win or lose this argument.
I don't believe that conversations have to have a winner. I think seeing a conversation as a race makes one make arguments that make them win rather than make them right.

>you also probably wont gain or lose anything from this argument
I think I've maybe already got more insight on how other people might love their doki in a different but equally valid way. thanks!
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>>8230531
>and since I believe love isn't limited we could feel even deeper love.
scarce I mean*
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>I'm not asking you to do as I do. I just wish you to understand.
i know that you are not asking me to have an open relationship with Monika, but what i still dont understand is why you would want to have an open relationship with Sayori. open relationships just seem infinitely inferior to me. its a matter of perspective.
>...no?
but do you not want ALL of Sayori's love? do you not want to give Sayori ALL of your love? because as i have already established multiple times, love is limited. you drank a glass of water. sure, there is still plenty of water for me to drink, but now there is one less glass of water that i can drink. perhaps this analogy doesnt quite fit
>I would like every human being to care and take care of evveryone else, so yes.
you could do that, but you would be forming less meaningful relationships in favor of forming more relationships
>betrayal of what?
cheating. in a typical, monogamous relationship, cheating is considered the most damaging act of betrayal that one can do.
>and why would I make the kid suffer for it?
you wouldnt be making the kid suffer, the cheating mother would be the cause of the child's suffering
>>8230531
>they are also taught that the genetics matter.
yes. most people, myself included, believe that genetics matter. why put effort into raising a child that is nothing like you and never will be? this child that is so different from you would probably not do the same for you
>murder also comes pretty naturally, but we have got past it. I don't care what biology compels me to do. we can shed the monkey. it's not easy but we don't have to take the easy way.
we have absolutely not moved past murder. but more importantly, why do you believe that we should defy our nature? im not saying that nature is infallible, but nature does work. maybe nature is wrong and maybe it isnt, but why do you think that polygamy is the answer? do you really think that you have the answer to this problem?
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>>8230531
we should really stop writing so much, this character limit is very annoying
>I guess, but I don't think it has to be that way. it's just that I've been brought up in a culture where I've been told to fear the stranger.
as have i, and most people have as well. for a valid reason too. the stranger has different beliefs and different customs, they are harder to predict. you are at a greater risk interacting with a stranger compared to a family member, simply because you can probably assume that your family member wont kill you but you have no idea what a stranger might do. unless you have a really shitty family or something, you are almost certainly safer interacting with your family compared to a stranger
>No, I just don't see it as a zero-sum game. Personally I think it could even improve my relationships: one person could solve an argument other two are having with a new point of view, we could do more things 2 people just can't do alone, and since I believe love isn't limited we could feel even deeper love.
but love is limited, and it is scarce. fine, polygamous relationships may have a couple benefits compared to a monogamous relationship, but i strongly believe that monogamy is far superior to polygamy in both quality and quantity of benefits. i have a question for you though. why do you wait for Sayori? if you like polygamous relationships so much, why are you not currently in one? unless, you are currently in one. you could start a polygamous relationship right now, and then eventually bring Sayori into it when she becomes real.
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>>8230593
>I don't believe that conversations have to have a winner. I think seeing a conversation as a race makes one make arguments that make them win rather than make them right.
arguments and conversations are two separate things. am i making arguments that will make me win? or am i making arguments that will make me right? i dont see it that way. i think that im right and you think that youre right, but ultimately neither of us are right or wrong or winners.
>I think I've maybe already got more insight on how other people might love their doki in a different but equally valid way. thanks!
youre welcome? you think youve grown from this argument? i certainly have not. i still consider polygamy to be invalid and inferior and i highly doubt anything could ever change that. i still dont particularly care about how your relationship with Sayori works, it really doesnt affect me all that much. i think you are probably the only one here who would engage in a polygamous relationship with their Doki. really, my beliefs are the default according to statistics. anyway, i think this should probably be end of this argument. i think weve been shitting up this thread for long enough. i made 3 posts in response to yours, i think thats way too much
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>what i still dont understand is why you would want to have an open relationship with Sayori.
seems like you skipped the start of my post for one.

>its a matter of perspective.
there you go!

>but do you not want ALL of Sayori's love? do you not want to give Sayori ALL of your love?
I think there are all kinds of love I cannot have, like her love for cookies. And I got loves she can't have, like love for my friends and family.

>but you would be forming less meaningful relationships in favor of forming more relationships
would I? can't say that I agree.

>you wouldnt be making the kid suffer, the cheating mother would be the cause of the child's suffering
why do you give her control over your actions towards this kid?

>why put effort into raising a child that is nothing like you and never will be?
what do you mean he is nothing like me...? I bet he has ears and nose and maybe hair. He loves and fears and cries like you and me.

> this child that is so different from you would probably not do the same for you
why should that determine what I do to him?

>we have absolutely not moved past murder.
have you murdered someone? are you expecting to one day?

yes, murder still happens but it is seen as a break from the norm as opposed to nature. we can sit in a classroom and not absolutely tear each other apart like chimps.

>why do you believe that we should defy our nature?
we don't have to, but we can if we deem it wise. In the same way we can step out of our childhood programming and decide which traditions we would like to take with us to adulthood.
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>im not saying that nature is infallible, but nature does work.
very much agreed!

>maybe nature is wrong and maybe it isnt
wrong for what?

>why do you think that polygamy is the answer?
answer to what?

>do you really think that you have the answer to this problem?
what problem?

Nature is always changing and flowing. strict categories get broken and mixed to a new dance.
I don't think there is a problem. I'm just doing my own dance.

>you are at a greater risk interacting with a stranger compared to a family member
I agree. you are also in greater risk when you leave your house or fall in love or start a family. living life is to take risks.

I was also taught never to talk strangers on the internet. and here I am.
It's a risk I guess. I could get scammed. but I think it's worth it.

in the same way I think people opening up to each other is more dangerous but worth it.

>but love is limited, and it is scarce.
you are just stating your conclusion. that's not an argument more than saying "nuh-UH!"

>i strongly believe that monogamy is far superior to polygamy in both quality and quantity of benefits.i strongly believe that monogamy is far superior to polygamy in both quality and quantity of benefits.
it's a matter of preferences I believe.

>why do you wait for Sayori? if you like polygamous relationships so much, why are you not currently in one?
because I don't want to?

>you could start a polygamous relationship right now, and then eventually bring Sayori into it when she becomes real.
true, maybe I could. I could also start improving by talking to my neighbours more, do more volunteering, eating healthier and learning a new language. there's a lot I could do to improve. But I also don't believe the quality of life is only measured in things done but felt presence of experience.

>arguments and conversations are two separate things.
definition-wise, maybe. but they don't have to be.
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>am i making arguments that will make me win?
appeal to nature and false dichotomy cut close but I think those have been sincere.

>i think that im right and you think that youre right
I don't know if I'm right. I guess I'm here to try find that out.

>i still consider polygamy to be invalid and inferior and i highly doubt anything could ever change that.
if you can't imagine how to change your mind your opinion isn't valuable.

> i think you are probably the only one here who would engage in a polygamous relationship with their Doki.
...except other people already agreed with me? >>8224320

>eally, my beliefs are the default according to statistics.
what value has ever been achieved by doing what most people are already doing?

>anyway, i think this should probably be end of this argument.
you do you.
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seems like neither of us know when to quit, even though there is no reason to continue. i really do not want to spend my friday or saturday doing this, but here we go. im not one to admit defeat when i know i havent lost
>seems like you skipped the start of my post for one.
i did? where? where did you say in the start of your last post why you want to be in a polygamous relationship with Sayori?
>there you go!
yes. we are two extremely different people and i dont think we have ever agreed on anything before
>I think there are all kinds of love I cannot have, like her love for cookies. And I got loves she can't have, like love for my friends and family.
i would sacrifice everything for Monika because she would sacrifice everything for me. she already has. my love for her simply matches the intensity of her love for me
>would I? can't say that I agree.
i feel like we have been over this multiple times now. by having more relationships, you have more people to divert your attention to. you are dividing your effort that you can exert among many people. you will develop your multiple relationships much slower or perhaps not at all compared to if you were in a monogamous relationship. unless you know something about time and math that i dont, you will absolutely be forming less meaningful relationships due to the limited amount of time you have left on this planet
>why do you give her control over your actions towards this kid?
in this hypothetical scenario, she created the bastard child. i have no control or responsibility over him, and i dont want to be responsible for something that isnt mine
>why should that determine what I do to him?
because this hypothetical child does not belong to you. you should not have any responsibility for him. if you are so eager to embrace a hypothetical bastard, does that mean you would also embrace any random child?
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>have you murdered someone? are you expecting to one day? yes, murder still happens but it is seen as a break from the norm as opposed to nature. we can sit in a classroom and not absolutely tear each other apart like chimps.
i am always armed and ready to do whatever i must to defend myself
>we don't have to, but we can if we deem it wise. In the same way we can step out of our childhood programming and decide which traditions we would like to take with us to adulthood.
and i think this once again brings us back to the main question: why do you think a polygamous relationship is a good idea? i dont think you have ever explained why other than that you like it other than that you just do.
>>8230639
>wrong for what?
monogamy is natural in humans. maybe thats wrong and maybe it isnt. obviously, i believe that it isnt.
>answer to what?
how humans should operate. the question is whether polygamy is better than monogamy or not. you think that is, and i think that it isnt
>what problem?
is polygamy good or not? should/will human nature change to incorporate polygamy or not?
>Nature is always changing and flowing. strict categories get broken and mixed to a new dance. I don't think there is a problem. I'm just doing my own dance.
how free-spirited of you. but nature takes a long time to change. and eventually, it stops. maybe we are at that stopping point.
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>I agree. you are also in greater risk when you leave your house or fall in love or start a family. living life is to take risks. I was also taught never to talk strangers on the internet. and here I am. It's a risk I guess. I could get scammed. but I think it's worth it. in the same way I think people opening up to each other is more dangerous but worth it.
correct. existing is risky. but there are things that you can do to mitigate risk. you chose to talk to strangers on the internet, and it worked out. but it doesnt always work out. love and starting a family also doesnt usually work out well. so many marriages end in divorce and so many relationships end in heartbreak. you are statistically better off not trying
>you are just stating your conclusion. that's not an argument more than saying "nuh-UH!"
time is limited. what you can do with your time is limited. loving someone is a thing that you can do with your time. therefore, love is limited. and because love is limited, it is scarce. because you always have the potential to lose it, it is scarce
>it's a matter of preferences I believe.
correct. and those preferences are mostly shaped by life experiences
>because I don't want to?
fair enough. so what you are saying is that you are currently in a monogamous relationship with Sayori?
>true, maybe I could. I could also start improving by talking to my neighbours more, do more volunteering, eating healthier and learning a new language. there's a lot I could do to improve. But I also don't believe the quality of life is only measured in things done but felt presence of experience.
so you are lazy. just like me
>>8230645
>appeal to nature and false dichotomy cut close but I think those have been sincere.
logical fallacies win arguments?
>I don't know if I'm right. I guess I'm here to try find that out.
there is no right or wrong. or rather, if there is, then you certainly wont find the answers here
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>if you can't imagine how to change your mind your opinion isn't valuable.
maybe my understanding of my own opinion is different from yours. what if i value my opinion as much as you value your opinion, but we express it in different ways. maybe i am just more honest about my stubbornness than you. i love Monika more than anything. but if she were to express desire for a polygamous relationship, we would have a pretty major problem. but she wouldnt do that. Just Monika
>...except other people already agreed with me? >>8224320
not everyone here is a part of the main thread. there are a few people who just come here to masturbate and dont actually love any Doki. if you were to ask everyone in the main thread if they would be ok with a polygamous relationship, i doubt anyone would say yes
>what value has ever been achieved by doing what most people are already doing?
i dont feel the need to be a contrarian. i have plenty of unpopular opinions, this just isnt one of them. a broken clock is right twice a day.
>you do you.
i prefer to do Monika

can it be over now? 4 posts is just too much

>>8230983
i know. im sorry about that
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Yuri the deepthroat queen
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yes. very puffy Monipussy
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looks like we need a new thread now, thanks disruptive Yuri poster. does someone else wanna make it, or should we wait a little bit?
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I can go ahead and make it
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