You let it die edition.Request advice:rentry.org/hpgdoc>Headphone Power Calcheadphonesty.com/headphone-power-calculatorDon't miss out on EQBear in mind headphones may perform differently between unitsRecommended programs:Windows: EqualizerAPO (+ Peace)Linux: EasyEffectsAndroid: Wavelet, Poweramp Equalizer, (Rootless)JamesDSPAutoEQ (disregard for mid-upper treble):sai.squig.linkautoeq.app>gaming>wireless>>>/out/>Sub-$100• Koss KSC75/Porta Pro/KPH40• Philips SHP9500/SHP9600• AT ATH-M40x• Shure SRH440a• Fostex TH7>$150~$250• DT-880/770 Pro• Sennheiser HD 560S• AKG K371/K361/K612 Pro• Philips Fidelio X2HR• Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX• Shure SRH840a• Fostex T50RP MK3 (moddable)>$300-$500• Sash Tres• Audeze Maxwell (gaming headset, but good)• Sennheiser HD 490 Pro/600/65• AT ATH-R70x• Drop + Dan Clark Audio Aeon Closed/Open X• Used/Discounted Focal Clear OG (not Mg)• Argon-modded Fostex T50RP MK3• Fostex T60RP (mod-friendly)• FiiO FT3>$500+• ask itt>AVOID:Schiit - you will receive a broken product and they will charge you for returns.Hifiman/Moondrop/Superlux and every other chinese headphone brand - Garbage build quality, significant variation between units, fraudulent marketing everywhere. Your headband will snap at some point.>Recommended DAC/amp brands:No NEED to spend a large amount of money on a DAC or Amp. Even a cheap JM20 dongle is capable of producing a clean signal. Get something within your budget and based on your output/input needs.• JCally JM20/Any dongle/miniDAC with an AK4377/CS43131 chip• White: Geshelli/JDS Labs• chinese: SMSL/Topping/FiiO• Expensive: RME ADI-2/Benchmark/etcMeasurements and recommended information (tentative, be wary of shills):pastebin.com/XK9E6PZ9 (old)oratory EQstereophile.comaudiosciencereview.comrtings.com/headphonescrinacle.com/graphskuulokenurkka.squig.linkold >>100049958
First for the smsl D-6S
>>100104403That's the one I got. Wish I got a Geshelli but It's cool.
Obsolete technology.
I swapped the default pads on my Sony MDR-Z7M2 to a pair of Velour Pads.All the AutoEQ IEF/harman profiles now sound far worse than no EQ. Is it normal for velour pads to change the sound signature this much?
>>100105633Pads will change the sound, yes.
I'm starting to think audio enthusiasts are full of shit. It's hard for me to tell the difference between different headphones over $200
>>100105672Diminishing returns are real but it seems you're deaf. The tuning differences are wild between brands, closed vs open, planar vs DD, etc...
>>100105768I can hear the difference between open and closed. Mostly hear the difference between flat and v shaped. Never used planars or electrostatic so I can't talk about that. Don't really hear a difference between companies. They're all very small differences. Maybe it's because I'm not a very particular person.
does active noise cancelling affect the sound of music?
its over for headphoneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWWofORMPZU
>>100106782RIP headband. How does that even happen? Is the structural part of the headband plastic or something?
>>100106783I'm not buying disposable audio equipment fuck off
>>100105958
>>100106837i have to replace my earpads every 2 years btw
>>100106909I don't. That's still better than throwing the whole thing away
>>100106782Another one bites the dust. Such a shame. Fecals actually do sound great. I have an OG Focal Clear that broke in the exact same way. >>100106806They have plastic parts that connect to a metal band. It's incredibly foolish in design.
whats good edphones? need this. neighbors & wife & kids keep bitching when I blast black metal at 2am on a Schoolnight.
>Sennheiser HD6XX Do I have to spend $600? Really? These cunts better sound gud.
>>100107651Anon they're $199, what are you talking about?
>>100107673https://www.amazon.com.au/Sennheiser-HD6XX-Open-Professional-Headphones/dp/B08T123MCT
>buy a pair of headphones with peeling fake leather at a garage sale for $1>they turn out to be the best headphones I've ever ownedWhat the fuck. Pioneer SE-M631TV, if you're curious.
>>100107725
>>100107561LCD-X 2021
>>100107725Anon is literally retarded
>>100107497>They have plastic parts that connect to a metal band. It's incredibly foolish in design.Why everyone doesn't just use a suspension band design is beyond me.
>>100105672Headphones are basically unsalvageable garbage until $800. Try LCD-2, you'll immediately hear the difference.
>>100109912you paying moon prices for your colored lcd-2 shit, get a avantone pro and youll throw it away
>>100110309>get my colored shit instead of your colored shit All headphones require EQ, the difference is most headphones are shit even after EQ.
>>100110345eq is for peasents
anons, i have phillips shp2500 headphones. they're extremely basic but i feel like the sound range and bass is pretty okay.however, they have this shit volume knob on the cable that makes them crackle and play unevenlyshould i cut it and sollder the cable, or is it more reasonable to invest in a better product? i feel like the headphones themselves are iun good shape still
Like here's an example of a shit headphone. On some tracks it makes crackling sounds but it's NOT distortion, I tried high pass filter, no change. In reality there are 3 giant treble peaks, and EQing them by ear mostly fixes the crackling. Would need in-ear mics to properly fix the treble. With LCD-2 you can actually trust the graph.
>>100107738>Pioneer SE-M631TVwhat
>>100110450>should i cut it and sollder the cabledo it if you have the skill .. but to be honest to you can get them for like $20 these days? even a good non talking cable will set you back the same amount ... maybe keep em as is and invest in a new pair of cans, nothing like having options and seeing how a different set sounds?
>>100110450Soldering iron is five bucks and solder and flux is what, five more? And if you already have them your monetary investments are zero.
>>100110510nta, but maybe its time for you to change your search engine?
>>100107738What other headphones have you tried.
>>100110536Yep, looks like that.
>>100110523that anon still has to buy a quality cable with volume control .. not sure if its worth it for the cans .. but if he likes em, sure
>>100110552No? It's the opposite -- it already has a volume control, the idea is to cut it out and solder cable bakc.
>>100110561ow I get it.. yea then its a win win .. sorry for that, I need more coffee.. >>100110450do it!
something must be done about zreviews / Zeos' pedophilia
>>100110651That channels exists for people who already want something to be reassured that they should buy something. I can't think of any other reason why anyone would watch his videos
>>100110651seen that channel cause your post the very first time, immediatly removed myself from that shitfest.. sometime the best thing to do is just walk away and have the philes have their circle jerk .. atleast only wallets were harmed anyway
>>100110523>>100110518>>100110568thanks anons, i just feel like i've been with them so long i don't want to part with them, yknow
Are Kuulokenurkka reviews trustable?
>>100111314>Kuulokenurkkaahhh what? Finnish obscure can blog? you better trust your gut .. looks kinda mixed bag of a site for me .. reviewing Sony ANCs and $10k headphones? yaaaaa .. maybe lurk more somewhere else
>>100107651Not even HDSEXX cost $600 after mods. You're retarded, lol!
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>>100112992headphones is a dead hobby now, at least all the snake oil sellers will move to another fad I guess
>>100113122yea they moondropping their IEMs in the anons assholes
I've been looking for a "cheapish" replacement for my old shit. Does anyone have any experience with Sennheiser HD-280 Pro?
I have destroyed 3 amps in the last 5 years. 789, 887, and an A90d. all of them were sourced by the same topping e50 running fostex T50RP. I never used the high gain on any of the amps. What am I doing that would make them fail?
>>100115277I had a thx 887 that would fully glitch out anytime something was plugged into the 6.25mm port. It would make a switching sound and the led would flicker on and off 10 times a second. It was like that after owning it for a week, perhaps they are just fucking trash products
>>100115277>postex tranny50rp
Looking for a wired closed back headphones.i love my hd560s but they're open back and i live in a noisy environnement so im unable to enjoy them fullyi mostly listing to classical music and movie ost so i'd like something neutral and detailed in the same price range as the hd560s
>>100115890AKG K361
Brainwavz HM5. I like em. But the gimbal is a piece of shit with eventual stress failures where it clamps to the headband. I had replacements 3d printed (someone went to the effort of producing a compatible model), the material for printing supposedly being better, and they still eventually failed.I think I need to actually redesign these fuckers. throw out the plastic plate that pairs with the gimbal to clamp to the band so that the walls of the joint can be thickened (not having to mate to the plate) and attach it using a goddamn bolt. Maybe even add a hinge with spring to completely remove the fatigue issue. That or make it out of fucking metal.
>>100117821There was a metal version at some point.
>>100115277Amp is a very simple device, and one thing that is most likely to fail in them is the power supply.
>>100115890>Looking for a wired closed back headphones.just get IEMs at this point
>>100119271IEMs are lofi, ape. The bass tactility isn't comparable to the sensation of a headphone radiating wiggly air around your ears, and not everyone enjoys inserting something into their ear canal.
>>100119539>muh techskys retard
>>100119629>literally physics keep coping with inferior transducers
>>100119811ive never owned or listened to any ear dildos in my life because i dont want tinnitus between headphones and speakers there is such a massive power gap that it's hilarious to suggest that over-ears are "better" because they're both dogshit
>>100104387>HDSEXXHDSEXXanon keeps on winning
what's the next level after hd600?
>>100120354hdsexx
Here's a question. I need to replace the earpad cushions on a Bose QueitComfort 35 and on a DT 770. However, I don't want regular replacements. I want replacement pads that provides better noise isolation and preferably uses cooling gel as a material. Does such a replacement exist? Who makes it?
I'm looking for wired open back headphones with more bass than open backs usually have, ideally for no more than $500.I use an old iPod as my portable media player without a separate amp/DAC, so my EQ options are pretty limited there.The only store selling hi-fi gear near me is selling HD660S2 for $500, but it's the only open back model they have under $1.5k so I can't compare them against anything else in my price range in store. Are these a good buy for me? Any other suggestions? Thanks
>>100120728if you rockbox your iPod, you'll have PEQ, and your options are much better. But the Philips Fideo X2HR is the bassist open-back on a budget.
>>100120354realistically only speakers or maybe some planar but theyre hard to eq>>100120728stop being a luddite faggot or flash custom software you massive faggot660s2 is shit, get 650, it's $300>>100120867kys
>>100120906>open back headphones with more bass than open backs usually have>get 650kys
>>100120924also, iPod can't even run the 650 properly lmao what a fkn retarded
>>100120867I do have Rockbox on a couple of my iPods, just not my main one. I like the original OS & UI too much. I was hoping at that price point to get something that wouldn't need EQ, but if not that's cool, I can live with Rockbox.I'll check out the X2HR, thanks.>>100120953Why can't it? From what I've read online iPods are better with higher impedance headphones, although I've never owned any high impedance cans before
>>100120953ive just plugged in hd650 into my phone which outputs 0,3Vrms and it's loud enough for me at 74dBSPL@1khz so i should probably shut the fuck up 2bh>>100120924just eq
holy fuck hd650 without eq is atrocious it sound like i forgot to take my schizo meds and the voices in my head are back the imaging is so horrific
>>100120728HD 490 Pro
>>100121063HD600 has a sensitivity of 97 dB/mW at 300 Ohm, which equals 102 dB/V. A very generous rule of thumb is to specify your amplifier so that you can reach peak levels of 110 dB. With the HD600, you need 2.5 Volt to achieve this.iPods are not gonna make it but if you listen to low volumes it'll be fine I guess. It's just a shitty recc if you're looking for more bass than open backs usually have and no EQ option
>>100120728Your options are>Fidelio X2>anything open + EQ, ideally planars (or at least exceptionally low distortion DDs)>build this abomination yourself
>>100121673why havent you killed yourself yet modtrannystop mutilating perfectly good headphones and remedy this immediately
>>100119539you dont know lofi until you use a closed back
>>100121673Tell me more about this abomination of yours
>>100121705my DCA E3 disagrees
>>100121802NTA but have you tried out the other DCAs by chance? Considering picking up an aeon 2 closed since I can get a decent discount on it.
>>100121798AD900X with Denon D7200 drivers swapped in and a removable cable mod. Hunt eBay for an AD500X, 700X or 900X with a damaged cable, buy a pair of Denon D5200, 7200 or 9200 drivers, carve up the stock ADx00X driver mounting ring (or 3D print a new one if you want everything to be reversible) to fit the thicker Denon driver, put the whole thing back together, add some pads of your choice and stuff something behind them to tame the treble.The result is some V-shaped as fuck open-back fun cans.
You guys actually recommend against Schiit but for Topping?I've only had one Topping DAC, (the e50) and it died literally overnight on the first day that I had it, I swapped it out for a Schiit Modius, and it has been completely perfect for months, even running 24/7, in fact it has been so good that I recently got the Mjolnir 3 as an amplifier to go with it.Do you guys have recommendations on "better" DACs that are balanced?
>>100121947You could just go up the ladder of schiit DACs; bifrost has balanced outs and multibit.
>>100122002The Modius is balanced, I'm more wondering what /hpg/ would recommend rather than the Modius, since the Modius is actually a decently priced (balanced) DAC as far as features go, $229 vs $119 for the Topping e50.
>>100122021Don't know any other cheap balanced DACs to be honest. How's the mjolnir anyway?
>>100122118Well, it is certainly as loud as I wanted it, I do have the gain enabled, which makes it a bit louder but I never have it maxed out unless I'm really vibing.It has absolutely no audible hissing or buzzing, which is also very important to me, but I'd say that it definitely gets too hot for my liking. I've actually burnt my finger on it.One of the biggest reasons that I got it is because it looks like it can be rack mounted rather nicely, and fit in a rack without being too skinny.Personally, if I wasn't tied to a rackmount form factor, I'd probably go for the Valhalla instead, but I haven't heard a Valhalla on my HD800's so it is hard to get a proper idea on how much different it sounds/how much quieter it is.Overall, I'd probably give it a 9/10, it would be a 10 if it wasn't so hot, and/or if it was a bit cheaper, maybe 800$ would be a better price, idk.
>>100122245>but I'd say that it definitely gets too hot for my likingYea that's pretty standard for class A(ish) amps. Even the cooler running amps I build run around 55C when fully warmed up.
>>100121947>Do you guys have recommendations on "better" DACs that are balanced?See>>100104403$200, balanced, sounds great, not made by topping
>>100122245>Personally, if I wasn't tied to a rackmount form factor,If you really wanna have some fun (and spend way too much money) get a burl audio B2 bomber rack mount pro dac.You will need some kind of source that supports AES over xlr since it's pro gear, no usb in, no optical in. Also it will output huge voltage and blow up your amp if you configure it wrong.There is also the dangerous music convert 2 which is a little more flexible in terms of inputs supporting optical, toslink etc.
>>100106909What are you doing to them? My chink copy pads last way longer. They're like 6 euros on amazon anyway so it's not like it matters.
>>100122537>DANTE input source
>>100122537Lol, that's pretty awesome looking, but I actually have my DACs hidden, my PC and most of the gear connected to it is in a closet that is a few feet away from me, which is why I went with balanced audio in the first place. That's also why the DAC isn't pictured in my stack.I was gonna attach a photo but can't get a good one without cleaning, so just imagine a Modius sitting on a shelf with a bunch of USB hubs underneath it and a ton of wires going everywhere that are grouped separately into condiuts of data, power, and audio. The Modius is honestly perfect for my use-case because of how small it is compared to other biggus dickus DACs that take up more space on my desk than I want to give up.
>>100122471So originally I was looking at this exact DAC to replace the e50, but decided against it because it requires drivers for Windows, I don't really want to install drivers for my DAC so I decided on the modius instead. I'm respectful of your opinion if you think that installing drivers is a non-issue, but to each their own.
>>100122651>but decided against it because it requires drivers for WindowsIt only requires drivers for ASIO mode which is a meme and all dacs need a driver to use ASIO.It doesn't need drivers for normal use as a dac.Unless maybe you are still on Windows 7 that OS is kind of a shitshow for audio devices.
For me, it’s Stax.
>>100122817Nice 007. Maybe someday I'll get a pair, but not before I track down an Ω.
>>100123297Nice 003, I got a pair too— technically a 002 with a step-up pin adapter. I’ve heard the Omega is even better than the 007 but I’ve never heard it. What I really want is a pair of Sigma Pros.
>>100124004The sigmas are more attainable at least. Would also be interesting to hear a pair of those. There actually happens to be an Ω up for sale right now, but I don't have the spare cash to be able to drop on it right now, RIP.
>>100124021Just curious, how much have you spent on all your headphone gear? You’ve got a lot of desirable equipment. But yeah I also haven’t been able to stomach dropping the cash on Sigmas without hearing them first. I’ve heard they have a pretty odd but unique sound signature.
>>100124202Well all the estat amps I built myself, so their cost to me is just how much the parts were. I've lost track of how much I spent in total to build the T2 but it's several thousand. The wood volume knob alone was $150 for example. I am selling the T2 for $12k if that tells you anything.
I digress...I saw Schiit makes a 4 band EQ. My question is, does anybody make a relatively inexpensive four band parametric EQ about the same size? Had picrel back around 2000 in my car, so I know it's possible.
>>100104387Your niggerlist doesn't have Bose QC35
>>100124280>The wood volume knob alone was $150And it doesn't even look nice or match the rest of the device.
>>100122817>>100123297I'm more envious of the Doors cassette than everything in these pics combined, and I'm a poorfag.
Is there a better alternative to the FiiO K11? I can maybe stretch out my budget to a FiiO K7, but if it's not necessary I can save the 100 bucks. I just need to power some easily driven Sennheisers and Beyerdynamics, but I specifically need a new AMP/DAC to use with my PC and PS3.
>>100125458Thanks, it’s a killer tape.
any amp that has alot of power, isn't chinese, and less than $1k?
>>100125678Schiit recently cut the price of the ragnarok 2 to $999. Only under by a technicality.
recently got ksc75. bass seems missing compared to my old Bose SoundLink AE2 but everything else is so much better. I don't think I'll need more than a $20 one.
>>100125678Jds labs.>>100125706This is inherent to on-ears, you won't ever find bass with them. Better learn soldering because the cable will die fast.
>>100125658Oh, I know it is. I have a ton of vinyl but need to get a new cartridge and belt for my Pioneer PL12x. Also need a preamp sadly.
>>100125678JDS lab
I have a HD598 thats getting old so I wanna buy something new what would be a good option? price wise I don't mind $500+ would probably end up pairing it with the atom amp/dac combo
>>100125087You don't say.
>>100126031My toptier upgrade is the Quad ERA-1. There’s a Chinese clone but it’s not tuned the same and doesn’t sound as good.
Who tricked you into the headphone meme?
>>100127502Nobody. I can't rock out with my Infinity IL-40's at 3am after I get home from work because I'll wake up my wife and kids.
>>100127502Yea headphones causes gamerdent
>>100126031490 pro/650 EQ is a mustmaybe aeon but they have shit channel balance
>>100125818>Also need a preamp sadly.Build an RJM VSPS on some proto-board, it's just an opamp, some caps, some resistors, a pair of regulators and a couple of diodes if you reuse an old AC/AC supply.
>>100129459Thanks anon, I'll look into that.
should i sell my 6xx and get the 490 pro for better comfort and lower distortion? https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/sennheiser-hd-490-pro-headphone-review.53935/
>>100129753Stop baiting
>>100129753i'd say yes but if i were you i'd buy 490 pro and EQ it and see if it makes a difference and maybe return it then
>>100124917everything i've found seems to be bad, even the vintage yardsale stuff. mix this with bad and old pots causing odd return to zero.i want to stumble into a few million and buy Schiit's massive multi EQ so bad, but the price is unjustifiable
I'm still using my porta pros which are decent but I think I'll get the hd 599s for my first open back, I've heard too many bad things about the hd560s
>>100125555>ps3You meant ps5 right
>>100110309colouring evoke various emotions and intensify the music's impact on the listener's psyche.
>>100130391>he doesn't know
>>100108188Who do you call restarted? what is this? recently on 4chan and It's like everywhere? not used anywhere else? Are all of you restarted?
>>100130190I wouldn't mind getting the Loki Mini+, but at almost $200 after shipping that's just bonkers. Thinking about trying picrel for under $50 and running it off a 12v wall wart.
I know you guys despise gaming headphones, but I'm still gonna ask. Need new headphones for gaming (not necessarily gaming headphones). What should I get? Budget up to 200$.
>>100131788dt990. Cool gamers like ninja use them.
>>100131788ath-m60x and picrel
>>100131828ninja upgraded to dt1990, get your facts straight
>>100104387What's the difference between open and closed headphones?
>>100132319Over ear would be preferable, how is the M50X?
>>100129753It's not as good as HDSEXX, unfortunately...
>>100132720One has open backs and other -- closed.
>>100132780I don't know, I have the m40x. I have heard quite a few people who have listened to both say they preferred the 40.
>>100132720with open headphones people can hear what you're listening to and with closed headphones they don't
AKG K701 Austria here.Ain't looking too good anymore.Fake leather on the band is separating.The plastic straps have broken away.The elastic is no longer elastic (replaced with rubber bands).Part of the cord has begun to stiffen for some reason.The black foam under the ear cuffs turned into that sticky shit that black foam and black rubberized coatings turn into after a while (all scraped out, now).But it still sounds okay and my ears don't care about fashion.Should I shop for a replacement or drive it till it truly drops? Are there headphones as good or better in a reasonable price range?
>>100132963and what does it do
>>100132720one is dogshit and the other distorts in the bass (with exception of 490pro)
>>100133819Either lets sound in and out or not.
>>100134095nigger? you'll need to boost the bass around ~8dB and then it'll distort like a mf
>>100133793rip mio headphones
>order warehouse deal aeons>hinges are completely fucked and metal is dentedWelp, my warehouse deal luck was going to run out at some point I suppose.
>>100134622negative pre gain
>>100135614retard
>>1001357961. you don't need to boost the bass to harman levels, it's not a requirement to use eq2. that distortion is quite low for the price range and even compared to some significantly more expensive models3. negative pre gain is used when eqing to avoid audible distortion4. no u
Are there any decent Android apps where I can EQ each ear separately? My hearing's all kinds of fucked up and I want to see if I can compensate at all.
>>100135986Poweramp Equalizer
>>100135917retard
>>100136039no u
>>100136022I forgot to mention but you need to change to parametric EQ in the configs
>>100136022>>100136155I'll give it a try, thanks
>>1001359171. Harman is the bare minimum of bass. People below 50 need more.2. verum, he400se3. negative preamp avoids digital clipping, not headphone distortion4. retard
>>100104387>avoid Hifiman and MoondropFound the German.Personally I use the Sennheiser HD800S with a Schiit Balanced Jotunheim (with multibit DAC) and it is wonderful. Schiit is great. Had this setup since the HD800S launch. My wife uses a Modi/Magni stack with her Sennheiser HD650 and HD560S (had the stack for 3 years). My IEMs of choice are the ER4SR by Etymotic. However I have heard the Hifiman Sundara 2020, Moondrop Blessing 2, and Moondrop Para and all of them sound great. Wife is considering moving to the Sundara or Para to replace the Sennheiser HD650 soon but we need another listen to both to decide. Schiit is great, HifiMan seems great from two separate listening sessions and Moondrop is goated in the IEM space but may take take the planar magnetic market over now that Snoy owns Audeze.
>>100136470Wait are the side yoke things on the HD800 metal? The worn down silver edges looks kinda nice actually.
>>100136525I don't think so. If they are a type of metal like material they are similar to a HDD platter. The material under the paint looks dark grey-ish and semi-transparent perhaps. I couldn't tell you the material but this was purchased 1 month after the official launch and has been used every single day for 8 hours sense. The only thing I've had to replace are the cables twice (the plastic wrapping on the cable tends to peal) and I change the earpads every 6 months and the headband once every year. I also strip the headphone down everytime I replace the earpads to clean and retighten the screws. The (for lack of a better term) "3D swivel" feature of the earcups tends to loosen and the screws backout. Don't want to loctite them either for fear of stripping it.But yea I do like the way they are wearing. Looks nice.
>>100136222In the next lesson we will learn how only using negative filters can still create digital clipping and how not using eq at all can still create digital clipping.
>>100136552Same energy.
>>100136599
>>100124917>>100130190I found three under $100! Found out >>100130740, and most that are labeled as PEQs, arent a PEQ after all. I am slightly concerned about ground loop issues/hum, but I'll deal with that if the time comes.
>>100136568And clipping causes distortion and possibly damage. Based.
>>100136599Chkd and based if authentic. I hate rich watchfags that are afraid of the tiniest scratch. I'm a poorfag.
>>100136470Based Schiitheads. >wife uses a Modi/Magni stackWhich Modi? Been thinking about getting one. Currently only have the Magni+ that I bought just two or three weeks ago.>had the stack for 3 years>Schiit is greatI knew the Schiit was shit was meme.
>>100124917If you want something specifically for a car then the keyword is "car dsp". For desktop there's topping d50 III, qudelix 5k and maybe fiio ka17.
>>100104387what's the best hi quality neutral sounding headphone i can get under 1 or 2k ?i don't want base boosting bs that ruins the whole sound profile, i want it to be as detailed and neutral / flat as possible.thank you anons !
>>100137235Magni+ without DAC (didn't offer it back then) with the Modi with the ESS ES9018 not the newer Multibit. Though if she gets the Para or Sundara we'll probably grab the multibit one to try. Personally think there is no real need since the ESS ES9018 is already a reference class 32bit DAC. Most high end home theater equipment uses the ESS Saber 9018 so why spend more than the base Modi lol. I don't use it everyday, she does. I still have an old as fuck balanced Schiit Jotunheim which originally had the launch DAC that I replaced with the Multibit DAC because my dumbass tripped on the wire and bent the contact pins for the USB cable beyond repair. They've been rock solid and they are the cheapest way to get end to highend gear. The Modi base uses an ES9018. You really don't need more. But audiophiles love their snake oil.
>>100137330i'm using my focusrite clarett+ 2pre as a dac as i bought it for my guitar but turns out it has a pretty decent dac and can also output quite the power without the need for an amp.i get to a confortable audio level with only an 8th to a 4th of its power output.bear in mind i like to listen at 50db at most.
>>100137301>what's the best hi quality neutral sounding headphone i can get under 1 or 2k ?Probably the HiFiMan Arya, objectively speaking. I prefer the HD800S though. After that ironically the most neutral headphone is the Sundara 2020 which is significantly cheaper. HD800S has bonus points for being the widest soundstage of any headphone hands down. OP sucks cocks.
Hello hpg Thinking of getting the Fostex TH900s but not sure. I really like the E-mu Teak sound
>>100136470Don't call me a g*erman ever again, kiddo.
>>100137394I'm >>100136470Want to buy mine? They are the mahogany release and come with the matching Fostex stand. I personally hate them and only used them for maybe an hour or two total since I got them. They have weird earpads, don't fit my ears well and sound muddy. I genuinely think the DT 770 Pro is a superior sounding headphone while being comfier. But will gladly part with them on the cheap lol.
>>100137436You sure they're a TH900 and not a TH-X00?
>>100137493They are the TH-X00 yes. Same driver. Same V curve, same 900-1000hz peak and same 9-10Khz drop. They sound nearly identical and nearly the same amount of shitty. The only variance in FR is due to the differing earpads. But you can just put the OG pads on it if you want it to sound muddier. I can't imagien why anyone would want them. If you are a huge basshead and want something from Fostex the TH909 is superior. You get the same +3-4dB in the bass and lower mids, and then a peak in the middle treble just like the THX00/TH900 but with an actual soundstage. Also I think the single Japanese guy at Fostex tuning these headphones is deaf in the right ear because all Fostex headphones have 1-3dB boost in the right channel. But I guess I don't understand bassheads. Enjoy the TH900 if you want. I'd rather split the output and prop my feet up on a subwoofer while enjoying a nice neutral headphone.
For anyone who wants it here is a sorted table from RTINGS for the two things they do well. Soundstage and their "neutral sound" target in reviews. Filtered out all the nonsense and sorted by "Neutral sound": https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/table/135918
>>100137681Why is HiFiMan so perfect?
>>100104387Bros, is it possible that ALL fucking headphone sets that are wireless have a dogshit trash mic?I bought some HyperX flight and I had to put the retarded mic almost on my mouth, I've heard a lot of wireless mics are like that, sucks
>>100137330Doesn't bother me what chip is in it. As long as it sounds good and reasonably priced. I probably wouldn't be able to hear the difference between the two on my m40x's anyways. They have some Modi 3E and Modi+ b-stock for good prices. Only thing I don't like is their shipping charge.
>>100138078Yep. Should stay wired bro. >>100131788>>100132319
>>100138119Yeah, that's what I'm saying the cheaper Modi has a reference class DAC already so why spend more.
>>100137994Other than comfort Hifiman is among the best on the market. OP is a faggot.
>>100131788Sennheiser PC38X
>>100137634900 drivers have stronger magnets than X00
>>100138139I'm seriously baffled as to how bad they can be. I honestly bought blind at first like a retard because I thought they could have at least do thatMaybe I'll get the Wh-1000xm5 in the future, people say it's better, but not for now it's expensive. ALL I WANTED WAS FUCKING WIRELESS MIC LMAO
>>100138161>urge to buy a set>but also need to buy food at nu-USA prices>so much for that
>>100138300XM5 "mic" is dogshit because 1. the mics are in the earcups, nowhere near your mouth, and they have to filter out background noise with a ton of processing and 2. Bluetooth headset protocol is limited to some stupid low bitrate so it can carry data both ways so all audio quality over it is automatically dogshit
>>100134622more like 5dbnever reply to me again you have 0 clue about audio and eq and you keep harrassing me with your mental retardation every thread
>>100137681rtings neutral sound is fucking worthless they dont understand audio
>>100138453Please, do go on, and direct us to whom you prefer for neutral sound ratings.
>>100138300Exactly this >>100138394. You need picrel
>>100138430retard
i own:moondrop ariadt 770 250 ohmHD 560SDT 1990I have owned in the past:HD 599DT 880 250 ohmBrainwavz HM5AD-700xI just bought:Refurb Hifiman Edition XS ($269)I'm not sure I even need the Edition XS as I'm so satisfied with the DT 1990s, but I wanted to try something equally resolving without the 8k spike present in the 1990s, to see if I preferred the more netural tuning.
>>100137681as someone >>100139143 who owns both the DT 770 and HD 560s, it is literally retarded to say they are equivalent in terms of "neutral sound". also HD 600 and M50x are equivalent in terms of being neutral? insane metric they're using there.
>>100139143>XSIf I were totally sure they'd be worth the money, but for all I know it'd not be much different from my K701. (I'm >>100133793) I was thinking about Massdrop 6XX but not doing the thing on the same reasoning.
>>100104387>>AVOID:NECKLET COPEnecklets fear the PARA
>>100139188if build quality is your priority, my DT 1990 are built insanely well. Leagues ahead of every other headphone I've ever used. They are also phenomenally detailed, but they have spikey treble which can be fatiguing.
>>100139220I like treble but sibilant distortion makes me throw headphones.When I got my K701's, having heard that they have a burn-in period, I put them to the best test I knew: Peter Gabriel's early Genesis vocals. Sounded like shit on my previous headphones, sounded like shit on new K701. So I put my Genesis albums on loop at decently high volume and let it run for a week. Tried them again, Peter sounded like a human being for the first time.
>>100139286>sibilant distortionAlmost as fun as tinitus
>>100137394>motfdkino
>chink shills finally found this thread
>>100140713You will be moondropped and you will be happy.
>>100130391No, PS3. PS5 has no games.
i need replacment earpads for my HD558, which ones / brand should i get?
I've noticed that headphone prices vary wildly here in Brazil. I'm torn between these options, but the AKGs K371 BT are considerably cheaper than everything else. Is there a huge downside to choosing them? Is there a catch with the BT version? Any other options I should consider? Massdrop X Sennheiser Hd 6xx ($420)770 Pro ($310)Sennheiser HD 560S ($329)JBL TOUR ONE M2 ($266)AKG K612 Pro ($213)AKG K371 BT($135)
>>100141439The catch is that they are wireless and sound like garbage compare to 560s and k612
>>100141748>The catch is that they are wirelessI found a non-wireless version of the K371 for $150. Should I go with that or AKG K612 Pro for $213?
Can I get a headset recommendation please. Around 100$, can be a little more/less, as long as it doesn't go past the 150$ range. I just want it to be comfy as fuck and it's for regular use gaming and music. But it needs to have a mic for work calls.Don't care if wireless or not.
>>100141937Depends on if you like open back or closed back more
>>100142267To be honest I have no idea what's the difference. Only ever used cheap wireless headphones like Soundcore Q30 with ANC and loved them but they broke and that's why I'm looking into upgradingI just don't want to annoy my brother that sits 3 fit away from me (he still has his Q30 w/ ANC so I guess open shouldn't bother him?)
wrong tabanyway which headphones would you fuggs?
>>100138519is the latency with dongle better than their normal bluetooth shit?i have a shokz openrun for exercise and the latency is close to a full second, it's nuts for anything besides music
>>100142363Open back sounds more natural and closed back is more isolatedNote though, AKG stuff sound good, but their build is pretty shoddy
>>100142625forgot, if your brother is loud then you probably should get the closed back so the outside sounds won't annoy you
I need your help /g/ents in chosing the headphones! Location - Polan Budget - 150 USD (600 PLN) Intended use - Gaming (FPS), movie watching, talking Kind - doesn't matter Preferred tonal balance - Rock, Metal, Ambient Past headphones and your thoughts on them: - Creative Fatal1ty - Terrible quality/comfort, whatever sound quality - Sennheiser HD201 - Terrible quality/comfort, whatever sound quality - Koss Porta Pro Wireless - Somewhat comfy, good sound quality - Jabra Evolve2 65 - comfy, good sound quality Source(s) - PC: jack 3.5 and bluetooth dongle, Phone: bluetooth Other requirements: Jack 3.5 would be nice, Prefering Bluetooth, built in mic is appreciated I'm eyeing Koss Pro4s as a Koss fanboy and Marshall Major IVs currently Thanks in advance!
>>100142665560s is 650zlremember to use eq
Miss these lil fuckers. Is the HD 206 just a newer (better?) model using the same design?Anyway: Audio-Technica ATH-M40X or Shure SRH440a? For a computer (music, video, light gaming) + a keyboard (music, obviously).
do all modern headphones have over current/voltage/power protection? do I need to worry about some random amp being too powerful and frying my drivers?
>>100142983Pretty sure no headphones have power protection, fuses are non-linear and would change how the headphone sounds. There is a built-in limiter called playing too fucking loud but turn on/off pops can kill headphones on some boutique amps. Just read the specs, don't get more power than you need.
>>100142983You'll blow out your eardrums long before you blow up your headphones with a headphone amp. Start with the volume all the way down and slowly turn it up any time you try a new pair of headphones or a new amp and you'll be fine.
>>100143680>>100143086sometimes i max out the volume and use my headphones as speakers
>>100143680this is wrong>>100143931doesnt really work below like 250hz and open backs will have weird phase issues
>>100144003this man knows
>>100139199Is the sound actually any good neutral and detailed ?
>>100144741It's openback. There's like 3 neutral openbacks in the world.
I'm not an 'audiophile' and just want a good pair of wireless headphones with ANC to use without hearing shit in the office, gym and airplanes. Which pair would you recommend for a normie 'normie'? Picrel:>$305>$232
>>100145218Wrong. https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/table/135918
>>100146247XM5 tuning is more neutral (XM4 has a lot of bass), XM4 actually has better noise cancelling for some reasonDon't use over-ears in the gym, especially ANC ones, the sweat fucks up the microphones in the cups and you'll end up with ANC that doesn't work right
Need a cheap dac/amp to power my HE400SE, any suggestions? My dawn pro does get the job done but I have to crank it up
>>100146597E1DA PowerDAC V2.1 (PEQ included)FiiO K11 BAL outJDS Labs ATOM 2 + apple dongle + RCA to 3.5mm as a DAC
>>100146597>but I have to crank it upand what's the issue with that, ape?
>>100146656Thanks bro>>100146685Sometimes I need more volume for older songs lmao
>>100146539Does this sound like an adequate explanation for the ANC difference?>DO NOT GET THE XM5s. I've used both and I can confidently say that are practically the exact same heaphne but the XM5 does 2 things that made me return them. The ANC on the 5s is auto adjusting, which means if you move your head while wearing them, the pressure would change in the headphones which makes them try and readjust the ANC. This leads to a very unsteady noise canceling experience. While wearing them, I could tell the noise cancelling was jumping all around (I do wear glasses so this might effect it).>The XM4s let you set the noise cancelling to a certain level and it will only change if you re calibrate it, which means a much more consistent noise canceling experience.>Don't use over-ears in the gym, especially ANC ones, the sweat fucks up the microphones in the cups and you'll end up with ANC that doesn't work rightI don't do much cardio, only lift, but sometimes in warm weather and this could be an issue. FFS, I haven't considered this.
AKG K361 or Bayer dt770 pro 80ohm ?
>>100148054kys
>>100148105 ?
>>100148054K361 will sound better and fall apart, DT770 will make you deaf and last forever.If I wanted to get a closed back, it would be either K361/371, DT700 Pro X or Harmonicdyne Athena/possibly Black Hole. Fiio JT1 might also be worth considering since that's dampened to the extend of being pretty closed.>>100148121It's just some idiot spamming insults.
>>100148054Shure 840a and Sony MDR-7506 are also good options, just don't get the 770s
Total begginer here. I recently purchased AKG K702 headphones that should arrive next week or so. Do I need an amplifier or DAC to use them with my PC? Previously, I used KZ ZSN Pro IEMs directly with my computer's motherboard (B550 Phantom Gaming 4), but I encountered persistent hissing, which I suspect was due to the poor electrical setup in my house.Thinking about getting a Fosi Audio-Q4 ($50) but I would have to order from Aliexpress.
>>100148358Those IEMs are a lot more sensitive, you might not be able to hear any noise with the AKGs. They should run fine without an amp. No idea if the Fosi is any good but with Chinese audio gear, I'd order from somewhere that will honor warranty claims for sure.
>>100122817>>100123297NiceI finally bit the bullet and ordered a 727a from J A P A NI hope it will drive my 007 to it's full potential (with global feedback mod of course).The 007 are much harder to drive than my 009
>>100148554Btw I finally managed to solder the Koss-Stax Adapter. Listening to the ESP 95X right now. They're really good with the right Cushions
>>100148554Nice. Post pics when you get it. >will drive my 007 to it's full potentialDepending on who you ask a BHSE or T2 are the only amps that can do it. Couldn't tell you myself since I've never listened to 007s.
>>100148621>BHSEI just don't want to shill out 10 grand *sigh*I know it's an expensive hobby but I try to be as savvy as possible.I'll certainly report back when it arrives
>>100148228thanks
>>100148703BHSEs do occasionally show up for sale on headfi for around 5k. Still not a cheap amp, but deals can be had.
>>100141439>560s 329 dollaridosWtf why are they so expensiveThey're 150 Eurodollars here which is about 165 Freedom money (tax included
>>100142942I know they get a lot of hate but I liked their mid forward fun tonality a lot (of course they're cheap as hell too)
>>100147146You need the app where you can adjust noise cancelling of the XM5. I heard Sony now does some shady "You need an account" shit to use the app that's why I boycott them
>>100148868Some countries have very high import taxes or special taxes on electronics
>>100148868Because Brazil is absolutely retarded when it comes to taxation of imported products.Tax import law here is an eye watering 92% of the merchandise’s price plus the shipping cost.BUT... Sometimes resellers get lucky and manage to avoid this tax by buying from CHAI-NAH or other countries that might not declare the full value of the goods. I suspect the headphones mentioned, which dodged these import taxes, are the cheaper models that remain unsold in stock because many Brazilians, struggling financially and simply can't afford them (minimum wage here is $250/mo). That's probably why the seller decided to cut their losses and sell them at a discount, whereas the pricier models likely got snagged by the tax authorities.
what headphone should I buy? (that's somewhat comfy for people with big heads and use glasses)I have these options:- ATH M50x- ATH M40x- Philips X2HRI used to have a 560s but the clamp force was horrible for my head (even after 2 months of use)
>>100149013The ATs aren't comfy at all, sweaty shallow pads and clamp like a motherfucker
What advantages have headphones against IEMs/Speakers in different sound characters? Detailing/technicality/localization/soundstage/stereopanorama/tonality/acoustic weight/percussion
>>100149486None
>>100148984why not just buy stuff from aliexpress then? chifiman if you keep it very carefully won't snap thaaat easily
>>100149610Because as of last month or so the government created ANOTHER law that taxes anything from aliexpress that's over $50 at 60% of the total cost (Cost, Insuravaluence, Freight) + State VAT + federal taxes... When you start piling these taxes on top of taxes the value 100%.Also this new law is applied directly in your shopping cart on Aliexpress, so there's not much you can do unless the seller is really sketchy and somehow avoids the law (even then you can still get caught once the product arrives in Brazil and is audited by government, if you getcaught, you'll be required to pay all applicable taxes plus additional fines for violating the law.You just can't win with Brazil.
>>100149710what a cuck nation holy
>>100148228Do you know how good the JT1 is with isolation and sound leakage?
>>100140762Goddamn Moondrop is killing it lately. Chinks can just interate on designs way faster than anyone else. Cosmo looks sick. https://apos.audio/products/moondrop-cosmo-planar-magnetic-headphone
>>100150902>Moondrop cosmoWhat's up with this tuning?
>>100149895Imagine, they voted for Lula AGAIN
>>100150635some reviewers mistook it for a closed-back but I don't know for sure, the frequency response looks pretty whack however
>>100150902chifiman with anime girls isn't really appealing desu
I often listen to music outside, which can be quite noisy. I've been buying TWS IEMs with ANC (tozo nc7, jabra elite active 4), but it never takes them long to develop a bunch of shitty problems. What would you recommend? I think ANC is essential. I'd like as cheap an option as possible honestly
Need recs for iem/earbuds >Less than 50 USD>Neutral or slightly bassy. Dark treble as I'm sensitive to sibilance >Is used straight down, not over your ear
>>100153098Here:>
>>100153176Care to explain
>>100153098Sounds like Final E500's the perfect fit for you.
>>100152109Dunno but curious about an actual review.
>>100153608Very much appreciate the solid rec, but I neglected to mention that I want a mic as well. Is the e1000c a good match for me?
I'm just looking for some Bluetooth headphones I can wear outside to drown out the populous, is the Beats solo 3 good for that?
>>100148358Austrian K701 here.I've been running them ampless forever.They're certainly lower volume than normie headphones at a given level, but it's never been a problem to get them to a listening volume for music, though some weak devices can't push them to LOUD.If you're gaming and you care about low frequency sounds that give away positions (think foot steps) you're disappointed. I don't game on K701 anymore. I got some bass boosted headphones so I win more.If your K702's are anything like my K701's were, you'll want to break them in before judging their performance. See >>100139286 (Me)
>>100156264Just to be safe I've ordered pic related from Aliexpress.I'm worried that the poor electrical insulation in my house will keep causing that hissing problem I've had to deal with IEMs in the past and also that they may not receive enough power from my computer.We'll see.
>>100153085A used pair of Etymotics, if you can stomach the thought.I suspect a lot of people buy Etymotics, fail to get a good seal leading to a shit experience, and then quickly return them. If you're patient, maybe you'll get a good price.I won't claim to know which Etymotic tip type (for there are a few) provides the best seal, but I do know that the older (not oldest!) large triple flange (it's quite translucent and has no coloration) triumphs the newer dual flange, the older and newer foam tips, and the less translucent triple flange tips with a visible stem.For reference, I've used the Samsung Galaxy Buds 2 Pro, ER4XR, and ER2XR on flights, buses, trains, and office workplace settings.
>>100156311>ust to be safe I've ordered pic related from Aliexpress.
>>100156657I'm that same anon from Brazil. For me, the only choices are either purchasing from AliExpress with the risk of receiving a defective product (and even then I can get a refund) or paying triple the price in Brazil. The decision is clear.
>>100156687Sorry to hear that bro. Move to the US or something.
>>100156720No way... Not only moving to the US is pretty hard for a BR without connections, Brazil being a shithole is actually good for me because I work remotely for an american company so my salary is like 20x the average BR salary.
>>100156771I do the same. Importing things from the US is really expensive though.
>>100105672anon it also depends on your source. most Bluetooth head phones r going to be limited by the bandwidth of Bluetooth. if u have a dac and good clean audio files (flac) maybe u might be able to tell the difference?
>>100158072>>100156771how do i get a job working for an american companyt. better part of eastern yurop
>>100159050You gotta do your research and apply based on your credentials. I work for a clinical research organization for example. They tend to outsource to eastern yurop and India sir for example, because labor is much cheaper. In my experience they tend to prefer slavs, because they get better quality work than what they'd get in America, but costs are much lower.
I'm curious if any other anon experiences tinnitus or significantly worsened tinnitus symptoms from using planars? Never had it before and when i used ethers cx's i had it extremely bad. It mostly went away but I wanted to try aeons and it immediately came back when I used them for a day. Didn't even use the aeons at a normal db either, always more quiet than my other headphones
>>100159310You never had tinnitus and started getting it after using planars? I've had tinnitus since I can remember, although it's never gotten worse.
>>100104387>hdsexxStop glorifying the headtroon faggot, you fucking retards.
>>100159432Yeah, Only ever experienced it post ethers. I only ever heard ringing in my ears if I had a head cold. Pretty unfortunate
>>100159451Are you sure it's tinnitus?
>>100159563I believe so, I'm not sure what else it would be. The ringing hasn't gone away in my left ear since I used ethers, but my right one did and now it's back. Only change in that time has been using aeons, and it seems to be on the progression that happened when I last had planars
>>100159594You didn't hit your head during sex or something?
>>100159620impossible
>>100159310Check for treble peaks with tone generator and EQ them.
>>100159944Okay, I will try that outty anon
USB to optical out adapter doesn't work with Nintendo Switch, so I need either an HDMI audio extractor with optical out, or a USB DAC with optical out. Is the Sound Blaster G6 refurbished ($70) the cheapest DAC with optical out??
>>100159188>because they get better quality work than what they'd get in America, but costs are much lower.yeah slav compsci autism is pretty amazing, i can see that >>100159310i feel like mine gets better when i use open backs but planars are different in that they are more flexible than DDs and they are usually bigger and there also is the question of the seal you get and tuning of the headphone as well as impulse response >>100160100there are dacs that are supported on switch just google, retardalso you can probably just buy a dongle if i had to guess
thoughts on the Fiio JT1?
anything to buy for 100i want decent quality i dont care about muh graphsphilips or 560 or akg 371 seems the be good ones to stophelp me out
>>100161261chink quality AND shit sound
>>100160290I literally asked for a cheaper option from a DAC because the adapters don't work with Nintendo Switch. But act like a fucknut.
>>100163080they have to work you retarded asswipe you have no clue what youre talking about
My setup was sounding amazing but a hot day (30°C ((86F)) ruins everything and things don't sound as good as they used to be... why does that happen? Psychoacoustics? Air molecules get more excited and change my sweet spot of the speed of the sound?
>>100163365Pads heat up, compress more, sound ruined.
>EQ a pair of 560s with oratory1990 preset>sounds mildly worsehmm
>EQ a pair of 880 Pros with oratory1990 preset>sounds decently bettermhm
Best music for testing headphones in under five minutes?
