reminder that transjim origins are the latest 1dd overpriced fotm pos
same with shillgots, katoCHUDS, and cra(p)tards

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Buy Dunu DaVinci

>>100167750
are you the final shill or the epz shill

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>>100167750
so true sister. take the 99c market earphone pill
>just eq bro

>MIAD01 phone uses Cirrus Logic DACs
Is it /ourguy/? Will you get one?

How much is the Moondrop phone in usd dls, pls thanks knigga

I need to consoom a planar. Thinking about the nicehck f1 pro. But there are so many coming out i want to wait for a definitive best 2nd gen

Hey, I'm not an audiofag, I'm looking for some airpods-likes for running with my watch. Are moondrop space travels still the king tws memes?
I don't need crazy audio quality especially cuz it'll be over bluetooth, but sweat/rain proof is needed and ideally, volume controls. I had some fake airpods pro that had volume controls and worked well, but I think I sweated into them and the ANC mic broke, because with anc active, the right side is this full volume buzzing.
Biggest problem with the moondrops is no volume controls

>>100168065
$350-$450 depending on where you buy it, assuming it will even work in the US, maybe it will in Europe

>>100168070
fomo is inevitable in the vicious cycle that is chifi pos. you get a "definitive best 2nd gen" and a newer, better "3rd gen" will be out in 6 months. my 2 cents tho you can wait for next "big" sales which is 6.18 or alllll the way till 11.11. just pick one that looks cool and is of the newer bunch. f1 pro went down to $70 iirc

>>100168105
The only shit that's actually sweat/drizzle proof is some of the Samsung buds. But maybe some chinkshit is too, look on scarbir.com

>>100168070
they are nice if you don't mind EQing to your preferred response curve

>>100168128
Thanks senpai, will do some scrolling.

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>>100167875
He's not but I am, but I don't dislike Origin (haven't tried it). Btw I shill both

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CKLVX D41 Impressions:
Balanced, good. In the context of dealmaxxing like I did, EM6L can serve as comparison. EM6L bass has more bleed and smear in the lower mids, upper mids can get shouty, and for me is a narrow / congested presentation. D41 still has mid bass, but is slightly cleaner, upper mids not as elevated, and a more engrossing presentation. D41 wins handily. All included accessories are also higher quality with D41. I have zero inclination or need to swap anything, whereas tips and cable are swapped on my EM6L because the stock shit doesn't do it for me. EM6L also fits me poorly which is part of what necessitates tip swap. Also quickly on versus Yume II because I saw PW's graphs were similar in the macro, they do not sound alike in the micro. Yume II leans more into sub-bass-over-mid-bass tuning, with more ethereal, euphonic upper mids and treble. The presentation of D41 is more dense and full bodied without emphasized air. No winner, just noting how dissimilar they are in my ears. Haven't seen anyone else mention, SML Spinfit clones are included with D41, red stem clear cap medium bore. Drives easily, but also not prone to revealing noise floor, good. Fairly large shells, but fit me nicely.

>>100167547
What's the carrying case?

Best bullet iem's under $100?

>>100168658
Etymotic if you can fit it
Other solid choices include Tanchjim offerings, a few models from Final Audio, and a few random bullet releases like the Tangzu Changle

>>100168610
stock inclusion. PU leatherette outside velour inside. sold by the Pula store on ali for $10, dunno if other cheaper listings exist
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805971203654.html

>>100168674
I saw those etymotic don't think they'll fit. thanks for the recs

>>100168610
check reviews and one guy isn't happy with it. i would say it is small and i wouldn't personally spend $10 on such a case.

>>100168113
Ya 6.18 is just around the corner. Id get the f1 pro instantly for $70, but if timeless 2 comes out like 2 weeks after I'm gonna be very upset

>>100168140
I like neutral, very sensitive to treble. I think I'll definitely need to EQ it

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*Thieaudio...*

https://youtu.be/ghFZmi3YGTQ?si=LrPP46e3b25uOO-0

>>100167899
kek. If I saw those for 3 bucks I might actually take the plunge to see just how bad they are

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>>100167547
>roastie eartips sliding off my iems and staying stuck in my ears
wtf bros how do i fix this? is there any tips that i can buy that won't do this over time? This was the case with my stock aria tips, and now it's happening on my novas and it's really annoying. what do?

>>100168387
Nice. This sounds up my alley. My only worry is the large shells

>>100168795
get iems with nozzle groove and lip. else keep your iems grease-free, your skin oils from natural use will make it happen more often

>>100168799
yeah fairly chonky. will post size comparison pic tomorrow. no problems for me with med-large ears, but only the largest pos start to cause issues for me (Elysian kilobuck, Solis II, etc). only sound precaution is if you are bass adverse, as D41 has a hearty low end. otherwise great generalist tuning

Are those adapters to turn iems into tws worth it?
Is the drop off in quality noticible etc, or is it just better to get a pair of cheap tws for the gym

>>100168715
in that case you might be fine with them out of the box because I found the treble a bit lacking. But I'm comparing them to pretty bright stuff which I'm a sucker for

>>100168902
>only sound precaution
i don't like dickriding iems or overhyping so i'll amend that to
>the main sound precaution i will point out
preferences are always a thing. and i can be hyper critical of nearly any iem, even my favorites. the lower pinna gain in combination with warmer bass means it's not a female-vocal specialist that will have that forward center-stage prominence

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will pic rel be any good? not poor fag but korean wife who is upset I dropped 2k on a gaming laptop so don't want to piss her off more by buying a 100 dollar dac.

currency is korean, its about 15usd

>>100169347
nah. dont even bother unless it's closer to $5. that is the kind of sound quality / quality control you should expect, they are practically all the same shitty units when they look like that

>>100168965
just depends. if you have decent iems and want the earhook (it adds some stability as long as it doesnt bother you) then they're fine. some anon has the newest trn bt20 pro(?) (i never remember the model) and says its fine for the price. i personally just use separate tws for a simpler, smaller package

>>100169347
No chink DAC, not even the ones in overpriced garbage like the m17 are good
Just get an apple dongle

>>100169403
apple dongle is unironically trash, after 1 month started crackling on my s23 ultra

>>100169443
>implying a chink dong will fare any better

>>100169443
Chink dongles crackle by design

>>100168965
I recommend pair of cheap tws. Also recommend one with transparency mode, poor seal, or ear bud style. It feels really weird to hear your heart beating while working out

>>100167547
>>100168387
Why do these look like Aful P5? Are they just chinks rebadging other chinkshit?

>>100169603
just the same faceplate material, which for resin pos manufacturers often buy premade in sheets rather than designing it themselves

>>100168105
Funny thing I have the real airpods pro and have the same issue with the buzzing likely due to sweating into it while running. Even the over priced crap isn't resistant to sweat

>>100169376
>>100169403

thanks anons noted. guess I'll aim for the moondrop which is still reasonably priced.

>>100169459
apple dongle has microplastics that turn you gay, chink dongles are metal and don't have this problem

Iems only sounds good if a girl is on the package. Prove me wrong.

>>100169603
aful p5 looks like monarch mk2. #justshenzhenthings

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>>100169856

>>100169856
You are mentally ill.

>>100169993
oh wow yet another s12/timeless clone

>>100163746
Going to link any?

>>100170061
bro it's from a shit ass fake-making company. i'm not gonna bother linking cause i would never suggest buying into such crap. the sound of the actual iem is shit to begin with, getting a similarly shit clone from a shit factory lacking any of the prestige / packaging (what you are buying into anyways) is plain dumb. gonna sound worse than a $5 kz, using the parts from 3x $5 kz, still upcharging you a couple hundo. and guess what your resale value will be? nothing. whereas again, emphasizing the utter shit part, no matter what i think of CA iems, they will at least retain some resale value with all the original packaging and inclusions. which means in the end, you could very well audition and own one for a while and only be out a few hundred when you resell it. or be a poor fuck buying fakes of things that still cost hundreds of dollars

>>100169993
idk why this lil fucker makes me grin. uwu giant panda ai slop

>>100169993
UoH Panda Belly and chest

Perfection of sound in hybrids according to me:
>bass
High-quality DLC dynamic driver
>mids
BAs by Sonion
>treble
BAs by Bellsing

>>100170917
>girls frontline
I wonder if changs will review bomb it

>>100170789
crazy enough the actual formula is
>dd bass
>dd mids
>ba highs (alt memes optional: est, pzt, micro planar)
and its obvious because bas always spike distortion at 1k, yet so few pos have ever done it... so many new meme 2dds are "le isobaric" and only in the bass, while companies *should* be focusing on dedicating one dd to the meat of the mids instead

>>100171246
Weirdly the physics says the DD has the least problems in outputting highs. But there may be some hidden complexity.

What's a good upgrade from the kz zs10 pro Ive had for 2.5 years?

>>100168214
What's the bottom pair?

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Surfans F20 and F28 both look very sexy. I saw a review and it stated that the F20 doesn't allow you to adjust the volume in sleep mode (screen off), is this actually true or just a setting somewhere? Also the scroll wheel ain't in the middle so I dunno. Someone decide for me. The F20 being older and more popular for that reason. But maybe I'm missing something?

>>100167899
>signature tuning by carlos santana
Kek does he even know what it is

>>100171603
idk who he is but he's almost 80, probably wouldn't make a difference either way

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006896653225.html
>dual CS DAC
>no gapps
Looks tempting. But it's moondrop. I wonder how they fucked up this time.

>>100171890
Has moondrop said anything about this shitter supporting USA cellular bands?
>>100171576
They are both shit

>>100171900
Obviously. What am I missing though?

I got recommended a bunch of iems last week and I went for the moondrop quarks (the final e500, the main recommendation, wasn't available at the time).
I've been using them on and off for the last couple of days, and the sound has been satisfying, but the constant pressure they put in my ears is annoying. It's not egregiously bad, as I was able to play Quake with them on for half an hour and not be distracted, but I have a hard time seeing myself getting used to it long-term.
I found out that this is because the quarks are unvented, so figure I'll get whatever vented iems you guys recommend and then return the quarks, though damn it feels hard to do so because I'm enjoying how they sound.
My highest priority is not having too much sibilance because I'm very sensitive to it, which is why the e500 was recommended, but that one seems unvented as well. The sibilance of the quarks is fine, so I want something that's no more sibilant than them.
My main usage will be youtube, light gaming, and maybe anime/movies, though I might also get back into listening to music.
Budget is sub-50.

>>100168750
only 0.001 dollars (converted from yuans) is transferd on your account sir this time, not good job, too short

>>100169846
enjoy your lead poisoning
still better than gaypple though

BIG NEWS
Just get headphones, lol.

>>100170018
based

I bought the moondrop space travels and I can hear the wind hit them as I walk. Why is the autopause feature so bad as well? I can't adjust them without pausing.

>>100172245
I don't hate sound quality, sorry. I don't hate my hair either.

>>100171900
>look up att bands
>apparently these faggot niggers have a phone whitelist now
How the fuck did we let them get away with this? This is the most Jewish fucking shit I've ever seen.

>>100170917
Hot, I want this

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>>100170917
>>100171040
actually it's Girls Frontlint

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Love these lil niggas like you wouldn’t believe

>>100167547
>>Budget
<130$
>>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Voice chat, listening to music. Outside.
>>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)
Idk, I'm listening to hardcore techno and vocaloid.
>>Past gear and your thoughts on them
Sennheiser CX 300S iirc

What is most important for me is wired and microphone. If they sound nice and have replaceable cables and such it's only a plus.

What would you recommend me, /g/?

>>100172974
CCA Trio Mic option

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>>100167875
>kz
Good because cost next to nothing and perform 90-95% as good as others
>epz
Good because you can get custom faceplates
>final
Good because different smooth tuning + some are manufactured in Japan
Rest are simply redundant or overpriced at best. Yes, that's a tough pill to swallow, but it is how it is, kid.

>>100173308
Thanks fren, will check it out.

>>100171325
Final E5000

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this or the dusk?

>>100173678
>Bellsing
Kek

>kz/cca/moondrop mention
so it's retard hours? *yawn* going back to bed

>>100173788
they're good companies sir i want to redeem pos one of them but too many good models

>>100173678
Neither,
Aful and Shouer make better meme hybrids that are cheaper and don't have a guaranteed Moondrop driver failure lmao

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>>100174162
>Aful
They make pos with nonlinear behaviour which depends on the volume lmao, if you listen at reasonable volume you're 6khzraped

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>IO Volare
>$600
>every mid reviewer got a sample
>sells 5 units at best
>profit?

>>100174225
>quietest test is around 100dB
None of those are reasonable volumes mr hearing damage anon

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what the FUCK are they thinking

I have 9USD kz iems, what is a good budget upgrade?
I'd like something that has overall balanced audio.

Should I stick with the ones I have and learn to use the equalizer better? Should I get a dac instead?

>>100173678
you might as well wait for the dunu jizzaudio davinci

>>100174336
You think the peak would magically disappear at 80 dB?

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>>100169347
>korean wife

I have the Final E500 and the Tanya (non DSP). Do Tanchjim One or Zero in the recommended list sound different enough to bother trying?

>>100174263
I’m guessing these ultra obscure expensive iems are a grift where it costs them maybe $50 at most to produce and if they only sell a handful they still net a few grand. Do that every month and it’s still technically profitable

>>100169603
They are basicly P5 replacements, same with the Pula 02. Exact same graph/sound/driver setup.

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>>100172221
He is embarrassed because we made fun of the star child bullshit in the last thread.

>>100175025
*splurt*

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Thoughts?
TRN ST7 2DD+5BA
30$

>>100175025
Where can I buy this

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>>100175181
This post?
Sorry I didn't see it in last thread
LMAOOOOO

>>100175870
cope

>>100175870
>>100176141
>you are a star child
>now give us all your unemployed NEET bux you deaf faggot

>>100175589
pointless when the conchs exist

>>100171316
>upgrade from the kz zs10 pro
Anything from OP or rentry

>>100172124
>Budget is sub-50
Why are you restricting yourself to only bullet style? Leaves you with a dearth of options. Basically Final IEMs. They aren't not vented, but are minimally vented so you'll probably still have similar pressure build-up feeling.

>>100172974
>130$
>Voice chat, listening to music. Outside.
If you have flagship Samsung or Apple phone, get their TWS Galaxy Buds or Airpods. Those would suit your use case the best. If you don't use those phones and are stubborn about wired then it's more complicated. Wired IEMs typically have basic-shit in-line mics that are barely functional. Recommendations will typically sound nice and have replaceable cables, but when you throw in that you want to voice chat it muddles the criteria. If your main use is via USB-C, then Tanchjim ONE DSP is a solid option. If you are OK looking like you work a call center job then Celest Wyvern Pro has a boom mic attachment. Again, while a handful of IEMs are available with an in-line mic option, all of them are going to have relatively poor recording quality and the cables have an additional point of failure.

>>100174445
>what is a good budget upgrade?
Anything from OP or rentry.
>learn to use the equalizer better?
Yeah go ahead and play around. Nothing bad will happen, only good.
>Should I get a dac instead?
If you don't have a current need and/or are relatively poorfag, no.

>>100174752
>Do Tanchjim One or Zero in the recommended list sound different enough to bother trying?
Yes they do sound significantly different. Should you be collecting budget bullets? Up to you.

>>100174783
>They are basicly P5 replacements, same with the Pula 02. Exact same graph/sound/driver setup.
Incorrect. They are not the same frequency response / tuning.

>>100175589
>Thoughts? TRN ST7
Pos. Avoid. Retarded KZ-tier design where there is obviously driver stuffing with no intentional design or function.

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Here is size comparison with some other hybrids and CKLVX D41. Btw nozzle size at widest lip is ~6.2mm.

>>100175589
>TRN makes one good iem every 5 years followed by immediate pos junk
like clockwork

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>>100168057
I'll get it just for the fact that it's actually thin unlike most DAPs which are bricks

>>100176441
em6l really is small huh, especially in terms of side profile

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>>100176651
Yes, but like I mention briefly here >>100168387
EM6L gives me fitment issues. Looking at raw dimensions without context of fitting in human ears is foolish. If it was shaped more like red line, it would probably fit in deeper and more secure. As the design is, the nozzle is too short and the body does not sit comfortably flush against my ears. So I need to use longer ear tips to have decent stability with EM6L.

>>100176741
definitely an anatomy thing. ive seen people not liking the fit like you, and others that love it. personally the thickness and nozzle length are pretty much perfect for me, and im using some super short whizzer tips too lol
still looking for something this thin but with that semi custom shaping like you drew

>>100176424
>If you have flagship Samsung or Apple phone, get their TWS Galaxy Buds or Airpods.
These are not wired.

>stubborn about wired
Every wireless option will sound like shit if you use microphone at the same time. It's the limitation of Bluetooth.

>Wired IEMs typically have basic-shit in-line mics that are barely functional.
And that's ok.

>If your main use is via USB-C
Nah

>If you are OK looking like you work a call center job
I rather not.

>Again, while a handful of IEMs are available with an in-line mic option, all of them are going to have relatively poor recording quality and the cables have an additional point of failure.
And that's fine. I just want to be able to sometimes hang out on voice chat while listening to music without sacrificing the quality like it is with wireless earphones. A good wired earphones with any mic is really all I need.

>>100176821
probably epz q1 pro fits that shape you're looking for

>>100176839
then pretty much anything with mic option will do, epz q1 pro w/ mic

>>100171576
F20 because it supports rockbox, nothing else comes even close

>>100176900
Thanks, will check it out.

I only buy the coolest looking IEMs (not the shit you use).

>>100168057
>6.7in
no thanks, sticking to my S10e and later buying an iPhone 13 Mini.

kz zs10 pro to truthear hexa or simgot ea500lm?

>>100176964
Hexa but wait until a sale so you get it for 60 bucks

>>100176964
none. what is this the shittiest iem contest? lmao

>>100171310
DDchads are undefeated and insurmountable...

>>100176964
500lm

>>100176964
Cadenza4

>>100176964
Hexa goes for 55$~ on sale regularly now.

>>100176964
>LM
for fun listening and seriously good techs
>Hexa
for critical listening
>KZ
for feeling the dick in your ass

>>100176964
the Hexa and ea500lm are fantastic,
KZ can't make a good iem above their 20$ single DD pos

>>100177188
I've had it for 2.5 years don't remember who recommended it probably /csg/

>Budget
25~75
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Music, meetings
>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
sudio t2 not good

should I just get a moondrop may for office and meetings and stationary listening and space travels for gym, they're so cheap might as well for the convenience of wireless

>>100177331
>office
Moondrop Bellsing 3 fits the theme, as it has paperclips and paper inside

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>>100177113
>Hexa
>for critical listening
I'm looking for a 'studio monitor'-like, neutral sound. I got the Zero 2 and tamed it's bass (see picrel). Would the Hexa be an upgrade?

>>100177390
yes

>>100177390
"upgrade" is hard to say but that is what hexa is good for, yeah. subjectively i find it more "detailed" than my 7hz zero 1.

>>100177419
But...the graphs look nearly identical!!

No, seriously, what can I expect from them? Better build quality and comfort?

Does the apple dongle work well on Samsung A series phones or is the volume really THAT low?

>>100177427
If I feel like spending money I guess I will pull the trigger then. Or I follow this >>100176988 anons advice.

>>100177469
EU dongle? yea
NA dongle? loud nough for most cases

>>100177359
fuck it im just buying moondrop JIU with space travels I'm sure they'll be ok

100-120$ looking for an iem I can settle down with for the time,
Warm sound with good vocals
Usage:Music(mostly metal), gaming

>>100168387
ea500lm mogs that.

>>100169347
apple dongle.

Is there a kz zvx without the fucking insane tinnitus giving 8k peak

>>100177390
zero 2 and hexa unironically have pretty similar FR from 250hz-10khz. Hexa has more extension in the high end, less midbass and subbass

>>100174426
Solar eclipse made me realize phone cameras doesn't mean jackshit when it comes to low light photography no matter the megapixels, so for a music focused phone it's not a big deal.

>>100177331
>>100177512
>Moondrop's USB-C
Big mistake if you get them. Space Travel TWShit is unironically the better pos among what you are considering. Just grab an EPZ Q1 Pro for wired use, the Space Travels are fine for cheap wireless.

>>100177631
Kefine Delci, Simgot EA500LM, Artti R1, CCA Rhapsody, or wait for sales and grab the CKLVX D41 as cheap as you can

>>100177822
EPZ Q1 Pro or anything else 1DD-Harman-ish tuned (ie dozens of pos)

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>>100176821
Here bro just for (You). Among my most slim fitting pos. Note the bottom left image does not have the IEMs sitting in equivalent positions so the angle is deceiving. The top right more-or-less shows how slim the pseudocustom fit of Q1 Pro is. Fairly long nozzle though, so if you don't want that deeper insertion then it may not be for you. Tinhifi T1s is uber slim and small, quite a niche tuning though.

>>100177631
Also maybe Celest Phoenixcall but it's a rather pronounced V-shape. Hit-or-miss, can order IEMs from Amazon and return ones you don't like

>>100178294
Not them but thanks

>>100178345
Will just add as a side note that Sennheiser IE200 is still kinda unmatched for a small in-ear fit. Letshuoer D13 or Shure IEMs are similar, but not really. Wish chinks would just copy the IEx00 fit

>>100178294
>ourANOS

>>100178294
thanks, still haven't gotten around to getting the t1s
will prob get the q1 pro then, that aggressive nozzle angle looks great
>senn
great but the accessories made me stay away from them. not keen on hunting for a cable when i have a bunch lying around

>>100178294
For me its long nozzles. Can't fit flat ones at all

>>100178294
this is what /iemg/ needs, thanks

>>100178519
also worth pointing out tiandirenhe v3 for a very small/deep fitting semi custom shell

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H270 or H570?

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>>100176964
>simgot ea500lm
Way better than the rest!!!

>>100177443
techs, more sterile clinical sound

>>100177443
>build quality and comfort
>shitnotes jagged edge2 and turdear hexass
no seriously, you're not looking at the the right pos if those are your priorities. stop watching youtube reviews. a hundred other iems exist similarly priced, many of them superior.

>>100178187
The q1 pro looks like it has 0 bass from the graphs

>>100179190
it's kinda bass lite. gay's comparison to original salnotes zero is apt desu. it can be looked at as better, with slightly better bass, but not a big leap in quantity. if you are the zvx guy, zvx's bass does not correlate to the graphs either. it's bass lite as well.

HEXA THATS ON SALE + ALI COUPONS
HARMAN TARGET EQ
YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY NEED MORE
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN??!

>>100179270
>eqing hybrids

>>100179270
>big ba shill
lol

>>100179270
I have no idea how anyone can find the Hexa comfortable.

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Best decision I ever made was hoarding the REAL endgame after realizing how much of a lightning in a bottle it was.

>>100179330
enjoy your tinnitus, depression and suicide

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>>100179270
a) dogshit retard target
b) shit tier BAs playing bass
c) raw unfinished chink resin shit ass build
d) shit retarded jagged shell design
e) retarded company who doesn't QC for shit: channel imbalance, literal BAs not wired up, etc.
f) fucking below mid as fuck overall

>>100179378
Restructure this in proper English anon

>>100176906
I dont get it. The page itself says that it barely supports rockbox, and I dont even get whats so good about rockbox in the first place

>>100179496
Rockbox makes DAPs super functional/unlocks features bad custom software locks away (making surfan players have a usable gui, allowing drag and drop on ipods, tons of EQ options)
Also it has a lot of custom GUIs made by the community and allows some level of customization

>>100176424
>Why are you restricting yourself to only bullet style? Leaves you with a dearth of options. Basically Final IEMs. They aren't not vented, but are minimally vented so you'll probably still have similar pressure build-up feeling.
I'm not restricting myself to bullet-style. That style was what was suggested to me. https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100033525/#100057729
It's a shame about the final e500 being minimally vented. Unless the pressure build-up isn't actually there then I'll pass on it.
The crinacle red and the epz q1 pro were also recommended to me, but the former is more expensive, and I don't know what to make of the latter's harman curve compared to the quark's neutral and how it compares sibilance-wise.
Looking through the rentry, the next closest option description-wise for my budget seems to be the 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2, where the 7hz is bassy neutral as opposed to just neutral. Would this be a good option if I like the quarks?
My original post from a week ago for reference: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100033525/#100057340

>>100179330
you measured ALL of them right?

>>100179586
>it allows shit on ipod
See. This is where you fucking lost me. You buy an f20 because rockbox supports ipod.
>cstom UIs by the community
I'm not gonna look at my f20. Otherwise I'd have just used a phone. It has a cheap lcd screen. It's always gonna look ugly. This isn't koreader-tier. This is literally a useless custom OS. You made no claims of improvement of speed. So you're basically done.

Just realized ea500LM is a single DD, i just assumed it was a hybrid.
Now i finna cop dat

>>100179330
Damn im so mad i only bought 1, still working fine

>>100179662
I just listed some stuff i know anon, you dont need to be a dick :(

>>100179662
I love you stubborn little faggots. You just come here to talk down to people since you know you never would IRL. Always fat little neets

>>100179687
Basically we're in agreement then. Other than my being a dick. I'm just being real.
>>100179696
Talking down? I'm literally confused how something working on ipod is a feature on a different device. I'm not even denying it might verywell be worth installing on an actual ipod.

>>100179770
sing fatty

>>100179770
>talking down
Also the irony of this is not lost

>>100179770
autism

Why is vaxtard never the go-to insult?

>>100179496
Rockbox has PEQ
That being said so does every shit android phone or dap with the right app so rockbox boomers are mostly people who don't want android for autism purposes.

>>100179604
Most rec'd IEMs are fairly safe and non-sibilant. For starters, need to accurately define what is "sibilance" for you. For most people, it will be an elevated 5k-15k region (note how this is large range, because it varies between people's specific definition, the music they listen to, etc.), with prominent peaks >5dB above the rest of the frequency response range. Cymbal crashes, hi-hats, high frequency strings, etc. will sound harsh and stinging. Vocal "shout" is a different thing, and that is more pronounced 2k-5k, which pushes singing vocals forward. This is a bit more common in ChiFi tuning as some people like it to make female vocals "pop" and present distinctly elevated in the mix. Reiterating, few rec'd IEMs are outright sibilant. Compare options on a squig.link graph to say: TRN V90 / Salnotes Dioko / Moondrop Stellaris, which would sound to most people pretty sibilant / harsh. You'll see most recommended options do not share the kind of big peaky up-and-down kind of tuning that those have, which means they are more even-keeled and safer.
Zero2 has a pretty crap fit. Works for some people, I'd argue does not work for most. Q1 Pro should fit better on average.

>>100180104
true, rockbox's main function nowdays is to keep iPod classics from being e-waste

>>100179604
Also to put it plainly, if you like Quarks, you're just a casual untrained listener. Anything else we're talking about, whether Zero2, Q1 Pro, Zero:Red, or any number of other things listed in OP rentry are probably going to sound like another "upgrade" jump up from the Quarks and you'll like them. All that to say: don't wrack your brain too hard. Get something in budget, that looks cool, and it'll sound pretty ace. Comfort is a big thing, and if you're ordering from Amazon you can have the return policy as assurance in case something doesn't fit your ears well (the Zero2 and Zero:Red are not super fit-friendly). Q1 Pro is best ordered cheap from Aliexpress EPZ Official Store though, so not as easy returns

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Imagine not appreciating the kino experience of a player that runs rockbox

>>100180138
>>100180219
Yea I don't have trained ears so the only thing that I can identify is the "S" sound in people's voices when they're speaking or singing. That shit is really distracting to me when it's emphasized, especially on the ksc75s. That's what I'm defining as sibilance and what I want to avoid the most. It's fine on the quarks.
>Zero2 has a pretty crap fit. Works for some people, I'd argue does not work for most. Q1 Pro should fit better on average.
By bad fit do you mean it doesn't stick in the ear or it's just uncomfortable? Q1 pro looks good but it depends on how much "S" sounds are emphasized.

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>>100180315
It has large nozzle diameter, long nozzle, non-contoured body that sticks out, etc. all of the above. Some people don't mind, for me I don't like it and wouldn't care to have them because of the fit. Their sound is nothing special either. See picrel for one example of how it sticks out and isn't sitting flush and close in-ear.

>>100179229
When I switched out the foam tips with my silicons the zvx has tons of bass. It did have 0 bass with the foams it came with. Is the q1 pro the same kind of deal?

>>100180315
Not sure how much bass you like, but if you don't mind some oomph, consider Kefine Delci. Definitely on the safer side from any excessive "S" sounds, reviewers are giving it some praise recently. Typically goes for ~$60, not the full $75 MSRP

>>100180353
Sounds uncomfortable, especially the long diameter. So does that leave me with the q1 pro as the only budget option if I want to avoid harsh "S" sounds? Voices on the quarks sound smooth and almost buttery. It's great.
>>100180401
definitely past my budget. I don't think I would mind more bass though.

>>100180381
it just depends bro. i don't know what you are hearing nor what your references are. i have hundreds of iems for reference and think zvx's bass is bleh, no matter the tips. q1 pro is not any kind of basshead set, look elsewhere if that's what you want. it's not extremely lacking or "0 bass" either. it's on the shy end, but i also think zvx is on the shy end / low-impact despite if a particular sample of graphs is showing some big difference.

>>100180431
like i'm saying to this other guy. it ultimately just depends on your ears and you hearing them for yourself. like i said before, few recs are outright sibilant or are going to replay "S" in some horrid offensive way. they're mostly fine. but YOU are the ultimate judge of that, not me. any advice i can offer is limited to my opinion, and that's that.

>>100180431
you could also consider qkz x hbb (the sub-$20 set, not any other more expensive version), celest wyvern, blon z300. z300 is a fairly heavy metal shell which i find uncomfortable, for some it's fine.

E6ML - best imaging and soundstage in 100$?

>>100180474
>like i'm saying to this other guy. it ultimately just depends on your ears and you hearing them for yourself.
That make sense. Though would it help if I find charts for both iems and compare whatever regions the "S" sound plays at?
>>100180500
How does the qkz x hb's bassiness compare to the quarks? Like does it sacrifice other aspects of the sound? Also is it vented? I don't want ear pressure like the quarks.

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>>100180628
>charts for both iems
squig.link there is a search function. picrel chart places attributes sibilance to 4k-10k, it's more a general guide, not gospel
>qkz x hb's bassiness compare to the quarks?
will be quite a bit bassier
>is it vented?
a good amount, yes

>>100180563
individualistic subjective psychoacoustic criteria that barely applies to iems, especially soundstage. i think they sound narrow as fuck. you can choose to listen to whatever retarded online """reviewer""" who says the contrary.

>like the way the surfans f20 looks
>like the physical buttons
>check the battery
>it's soldered in
well fuck that shit. Are there any daps that are similar to it that actually have easily replaceable batteries for when they start eating shit?

>>100180710
the ipod classics

>>100180692
holographic soundstage is real
good hybrid + good DAC = clear localization of instruments in 0.5-1m diameter

>>100180563
even LM is better

>>100180748
worse imaging and harsh treble
not matter how good material and engineering used in 1DD, it's still worse than just good hybrid

>>100180739
>>100180779
beyond fucking stupid

>>100180676
>squig.link
oh shit this is cool.
I forgot to ask how the fit is for the qkz x hb. Is it as bad as the zero2?

>>100168057
Oh boy. I can't wait for my phone to kill itself in a few months.

>>100180787
Chuzo?

>>100180790
fit is individual too guy. they are generic budget iems where i would not call either "ideal"

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>>100180804
no, i own these, many more, and have heard many more iems, more expensive than yours. you're fucking retarded if you think a hybrid automatically equates to "better" "soundstage" than a 1dd.

>>100180829
What's the kilopos?

>>100180829
is the 1k$ one the Monarchs?

>>100180807
right. I figure I'll research a bit more and then pick one and see how it goes. Thanks for answering my questions.

>>100180739
>>100180779
shartur?

>>100180848
distilled, refined and crystallized snake oil for dumb retards with too much cash and too little brains

It is futile trying to have meaningful discussion rn, LMzo is on the loose with his shrillgot pos

>>100181741
which one there are like 5

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What are you guys listening to rn? :3

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>>100181902
Real music.
https://youtu.be/ktvmKVfkpGo

>>100181874
Owning the pos doesnt automatically make you the the respective poszo, but derailing conversations towards the particular model and open agression towards every non-praising comment does.

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>>100181902
gensokyo radio

>>100182095
I don't think anyone has done that with the lm, the only comments that get shit on are people who exaggerate the ear rape.

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>>100167547
Let me guess u need more ?

>>100182367
Wearing IEMs in public is already borderline cringe as some people said, that can be argued, but it is unambiguously cringe wearing IEMs with KZ logo plastered on a toy-like designed shell.
At least D-fi doesn't look like a toy and nobody knows you're wearing a KZ.

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>>100182132

>>100182459
Yeah but the KZ D-Fi tuning sucks donkey balls. I'd rather wear Salnotes Zero in public again, they at least sounded good.

>>100182367
Correct.

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>old sony players still able to hang with current pos players, chang can't mimic sony house sound no matter what dac chip is accessible to him, shanling knows.
>$13 edx lite btfo campfire cascara and probably many others

see u faggots in 5 years

>>100183181
brother if you're comparing your pos to cfa there is something wrong with your pos

>>100183191
keep tweakin that rock, that's some good shit I'm sure. i held both pos in my hands and a-b'd them using my test tracks. cascara is a muddy, slow pos compared to edx lite. the only thing cascara has is slightly better sounding mids, but edx lite takes bass and details. campfire is a joke.

>>100183237
bro if your pos sounds worse than a cfa in any category it's fucking trash lmao

>>100183247
it was preference of tone. edx lite is colder sounding but is overall cleaner and more enjoyable. im trying to be fair here.

>>100183181
Every campfire IEM is garbage/designed using the same parts and tuning methodology as KZ from 2018

>>100183293
ive always wondered this myself, what's stopping me from mogging them using semi-custom hydro-dipped faceplates, good cables, good selection of tips, and fr tunes that people will actually like? seriously reconsidering life decisions to make some shit like this happen. im sure i can gather up some connections.

>>100183340
>What's stopping me from mogging them
Campfire has an extremely hardline fanbase who obsess over the company owner on Head-Fi

>>100183181
Mogged into oblivion by apple dongle

>>100183181
Problem with chang is not the snoy in house sound, it's a fking usable UI. They're stuck in 2008's ipod clones.

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There was a retarded little downie here that said the spec sheet on the surfans f20/eros q wasn't real
Here you go retard.

How much percentage does a good dap sound differ than my 3.5mm headphone jack chink phone without a dongle?

>>100184268
it depends on the iem. if you have typical budget hyper sensitive shit, nearly nothing will be different. sometimes phone output is colored / not flat though becuase of post processing or internal nerfed design, androids typically resample to 48khz, etc. specifics matter.

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>>100181902
Real Troonsic.
https://youtu.be/DUp-gQSRGhE?si=JttTigLwZ7uiraRQ

>>100184434
how come furfags always gotta make their weird fetish their whole personality

>>100184832
Probably the same reason trannies here are allowed to make anime their whole personality.

>>100184932
anime website lol

>>100184832
What's weird about it. Most of your ancestors were animals.

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>anime website lol

>>100184973
Troon website lol

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>>100181902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74CMAZZQzxU

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>>100184268
If your phone is like that it will perform on par with sub-50$ dongles.
But source memeing is like voodoo - if you believe that it works it will work. Even the Walkman app on my dap sounds different from Neutron/Poweramp despite the processing being applied is system-wide (and yes it sounds better).

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>>100181902
Only real music.

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Lithium, magnesium AND beryllium? You gotta be shitting me.

>>100185265
holy shit...

Sell all your happy meal toys and get one good IEM you retards.

>>100185407
whats the one good IEM?

>>100185407
already have, now i only have one incredible pos

>>100185407
Iems don't have resale value though

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>>100185265
The graph in the marketing materials isn't looking so hot.

>>100185407
But I already have the EA500LM + Spinfit Omni's.

>>100185429
the final e500

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>>100185407
I already own the end game kilobuck that is *Thieaudio prestige LTD*
TOTL ALL-ROUNDER

Crème de la crème

How are we feeling about the Moondrop Evo?

>>100186592
>Moondrop Evo
pos

>>100186404
You don't won shit.
Also that pos is garbage.
Kys.

is Simgot LM basically Chu 2 but not moondropped and on steroids?

>>100185265
the techs, i can already feel it

>>100181902

I strongly suggest bypassing the iphone headphone amp with a line out to an external amp. My ipod classic + Fiio LOD cable + Topping NX7 is total endgame for me. I use the same amp for my turntable, shit is so cash.

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>>100183181
For me it's nw-a306 (domestic JP version with high gain) and Final Make4

>>100186849
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR POS ANON
DUMB BITCH, SINCE YOU THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AND ALL

>>100189223
>mogged by a35 running mrwalkman wm1z tune with j region, alt dac, normal gain, v2 mode.

>>100189351
My pos > your pos.

>>100189469
>annihilated by apple dongle

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>>100179307
So what's the deal with EQing hybrids? If I listen to a recording, of course the creator used EQ on the track. Now what's the big deal if I slap my own EQ on the master? The mastering guy could have used the same EQ settings on the recording. Also, should I not EQ ear resonance peaks on a hybrid? I'm confused.

>>100189223
great pic

>>100179021
What about the Moondrop Lan then, if I prefer a neutral sound? FR is looking good to me, especially the attenuated bass.

>>100168057
I expected it to be closer to kilobuck but for 400 it's a nobrainer, not sure if I'd daily drive it as a phone but as a pmp w/ decent dac, balanced out and all the smartphone conveniences it do be looking great.

>>100190262
>Now what's the big deal if I slap my own EQ on the master? The mastering guy could have used the same EQ settings on the recording
This is called the circle of confusion in audio
https://seanolive.blogspot.com/2009/10/audios-circle-of-confusion.html?m=1

>>100190262
anons shit on EQing hybrids because of high distortion levels.
it's not really a thing, distortion audbility thresholds are higher than most people think, most IEMs will not have audible distortion even with EQ
>>100190533
there is a difference between audio production and reproduction. if every master was done in the same conditions, and every listener had the same device, then of course EQ would be only necessary for preference tweaks (ie bass and treble tone controls).
but the truth is that it's just not the case. there's no standardization for anything. even with solid research behind what is the most neutral/enjoyable speaker sound, most studios are not calibrated to that at all. at this point, might as well completely EQ to your own taste/preference instead of chasing neutrality that changes depending on the mastering engineer.

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>>100185837
Solid choice anon

>>100189223
holy based

I really dislike the bitmap-esque font moondorp uses for their products, it looks cheap somehow


anyways redeem yu9audio er4s

>>100191020
>er4s
I would but I haven't used mine in 2 years because I can't fit them.

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>>100189507
>My pos > your pos
The absolute state of these threads where dumb anon doesn't name his IEMs and goes to say "mine is better than yours" but we have no fucking clue what his IEMs are

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I don't get the hype these got. $30 was fair but without long EQ session they are in "for the price" category at best.

>>100191377
his pos is better than your pos thoughbeit

>>100191470
Who was hyping them.

What's the difference between the Temparament X6 and the X10? They basically the same, no?

>>100191377
I don't know what his pos is but it's definitely better than your pos(nothing).

>>100191488
Every single review I've seen is very positive. Including Tony's.

>>100191519
who the fuck is Tony

>>100191519
Maybe listen to /iemg/ next time and avoid twshit entirely.

>>100191533
Okay but post picture of your pos when you're dropping recs and we have a deal.

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>>100191550
If I discover something useable I'll be sure to post pics.

>>100191533
I thought cheap chinky twshit and WF-1000xm4 were /iemg/-approved

>>100191519
It has quite a big dip at 6khz making it dark unless your resonance ear peak is right at that exact location.

>>100187547
with default nozzles it very much is, with other nozzles it gains the in-house Shrillgot™ sound

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>>100192609
It's only the steel/black nozzle that's shrillgot, the default gold/red and steel/red nozzles sound the same.

>>100192190
only the buds2pro and the apple airpods pro 2 are

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>>100192844
>Airpoods
Fuck off Rakesh

>>100192844
>buds2pro
go fuck yourself and your proprietary gook shit crin

>>100192880
pajeets can't afford airpods. project harder, poorfag

does anyone have that dap chart that showed and compared a bunch of daps in terms of specs and features? I think the chart was in chinese or japanese but i remember seeing it posted here sometimes

>>100193363
Its linked in the rentry, towards the bottom

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>pulyarbnnntelpc shell
What did moondrop mean by this

>>100193185
My dailys are $100 more than Jeetpod pros 2 though lol.

Thoughts on the moondrop golden age?

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i want:
>7-8 hours play time at minimum
>Bluetooth
>usb-c out
>able to play my 24 bit flacs
>max 200 dollaridoos

which player should I get

>>100194205
Old LG phone or Hiby M300

Much to my horror, I am impressed by the channel matching here.

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>>100194436

>>100194457
which pos is this

>>100194481
Some cheap pos. Like ridiculously cheap pos, they-don't-even-have-a-name cheap. I'll post a lot more, bought these for fun and modding.

is the surfans f28 worth getting or is it not worth the extra money over the f20?

>>100194505
Bake the next thread with pics of your noname cheap pos faggot

>>100194568
Sorry, too busy enjoying my cheap endgame!

fresh bread >>100194650