>AMD was shit but eventually found the secret sauce to make great CPUs that actually compete with and in many cases beat Intel's, going on for several years now
>but they can never come close to doing the same with their graphics
Fucking what is stopping them from making competitive GPUs? What is Nvidia's sorcery that AMD can't replicate?

It's been a little over three weeks since I switched from a 4070super to a 7900gre. I sold the 4070ti and what I got in return was:
>30-40% better performance in games
>A better driver UI
>AV1 encoding using relive (which shadowplay doesn't have)
>Better HDR support, I keep HDR on at all times now
and I've had (almost) zero issues besides some weird screen flickering when on my desktop, which was caused by amd freesync. In fact I've actually had less driver issues because relive doesn't shit itself and constantly corrupt videos like shadowplay does, and on windows 10 ltsc nvidia has some hardware acceleration issues with steam, which kept crashing the overlay. All of that, gone.

hey guys I have to come clean
I've been spreading misinformation and lies for the last year and seeing you guys struggle was pretty fun
I'm a shill and I do it for free (for lols) and you idiots keep falling for it

>>100172190
I never fell for it tho, cause listening to 4chan for buying advice would be pretty stupid

going from 60hz monitor...should i go for 144 or 240 hz? noticeable difference?

>>100172233
Definitely noticeable for either one you choose, especially coming from a 60Hz monitor

>>100172250
h-halp...

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>>100172233
I went from 60 to 120hz years ago based off seeing what 75hz can do. Going from 60 to 144 will be extremely noticeable. I can't speak on the difference between 144 and 240 though.

>>100172279
yeah but is the difference between 144 and 240 big enough to matter?

>>100171980
Intel got caught sleeping and AMD actually sprinted in front. Nvidia have not been caught napping even once and last gen when AMD “caught up” they still lost on DLSS/RT/CUDA which with them not doing much for those in this gen means Nvidia has managed to maintain its lead. People think RDNA5/CDNA5 will be the Zen moment for AMD in GPU but I don’t think it’ll be as simple as that because Nvidia are still innovating and improving

>>100172283
Your system probably expected a different RAM profile that the sticks couldn’t run, hit an error and went back to default then the sticks started working

>>100172283
Specs???

>>100172291
PSU and SSD for OS? Then build and enjoy

>>100172294
I personally have a 144hz monitor but have never gamed on a 240hz monitor so I can't tell you, but you have to have a GPU powerful enough to push 240 fps unless you play Source games at 1080p then a toaster could do that

3060 12GB or 4060 8GB?

>>100172339
Depends on what you're doing with it

>>100172344
Video games, no AI. What situations would the 4060 excel?

>>100172370
The feature set on the 4060 is superior to that of the 3060 especially in regards to DLSS 3 and framegen
If you're not doing ML work then I would get the 4060 unless you are willing to go used then I would get a 3080 10GB

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which psu, guys?

>>100172306
Is that some setting in the bios? I don't really change anything in the bios.

>>100172309
I tried it on a bunch of different computers, they're supposed to be ram for my unraid server, all of the systems I tried them on are amd, I checked the compatibility list for all the motherboards and the ram shows up on all of them.

The current machine I'm running memtest on is a ryzen 3 2200g, gigabyte B450M DS3H, and the ram are kingston hyper x 16gb ddr4 2400MHz.

>>100172408
I would go with the AeroCool since it's modular, I'm not a fan of non-mod PSUs

>>100172570
it' not modular

>>100172408
Did you check to make sure the RAM you selected is on the QVL RAM list for your motherboard?

>>100172577
You sure? Your picture shows no wires plugged in compared to the Zalman which is definitely a non-modular

>>100172370
First off the raw performance can be considered identical. You won't notice ±5% and neither GPU is powerful enough to productively utilize >8GB. As for the advantages of the 4060, there's framegen if you care about that plus it's much more power efficient. If they're the same price then get the 4060. If the 3060 is available at a substantial discount, say $50+, then get that unless you really want native framegen.

>>100172294
Anecdotally, in my case it matters.
I can't see the difference between 144 and 240 fps by just watching.
But I can definitely feel it when playing.
I'm certain it's not just placebo, since my scores in rhythm games are better at 240, and when I'm on 144 by mistake, it feels sluggish in a way.
One thing I can see is motion clarity in fast scrolling games, like arcade type games, shmups and such. 240 is clearer than 144, as I can now see the details on those moving sprites, but still not perfectly clear.

>>100171963
>AVOID: Nvidia GPUs (4070 series has too many driver issues on Windows 10 & 11, 4080 and 4090 have board design issues causing hardware failure)
What a dumb statement

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>>100172291
Wow, you are an oligarch! So smart with shitty spermbank's nae-balls.

Anon here with 3080ti and 5800x3d with shutdown problem when starting Helldivers2 last week.
I changed the PSU and the shutdown stopped. So yeah it is the problem that PSU (RM 850X 2018) is not enough to handle 3080ti spike.

>>100172851
What model PSU did you go with?

>>100172886
NZXT C1200. It got discount here to be as cheap as other 1KW tier A PSU so I went with it..

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>>100172707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdymB1vLdF8

>>100172988
R Tard

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>>100172992
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-4090s-are-still-melting-two-years-after-launch-gpu-repair-facility-works-on-burned-rtx-4090s-every-single-day

https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1c2jcqf/rtx_4090s_continue_to_melt_gpu_repair_facility/

https://wccftech.com/hundreds-geforce-rtx-4090-gpus-burnt-connectors-still-sent-to-repair-shop-for-fix/

https://videocardz.com/newz/repair-shop-continues-to-replace-200-rtx-4090-power-connectors-each-month

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/rtx-4090s-continue-to-melt-gpu-repair-facility-claims-it-works-on-200-flagship-nvidia-cards-per-month/ar-BB1lwZop?item=flightsprg-tipsubsc-v1a

https://hothardware.com/news/pc-repair-shop-shows-melted-geforce-rtx-4090-gpus-that-arrive

>>100173015
>4090
>>AVOID: Nvidia GPUs (4070 series has too many driver issues on Windows 10 & 11, 4080 and 4090 have board design issues causing hardware failure)
How retard do you have to be

>>100171963
drake is best girl

>>100173019
>driver issues
>hardware issues
avoid nvidia

>>100173054
>just the 4090
>NO ITS THE WHOLE SERIES BRO TRUST ME

>>100173068
read the archives and watch his channel many issues already pointed out

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Lead-free solder makes all these cards so fragile? LMAO, they use it intentionally, it is a planned obsolescence

>>100173085
Literally talking ONLY about the 4090

>>100173091
https://www.google.com/search?q=4080+dead+site:www.reddit.com

which partner makes the best nvidia cards? best as in quietest, chillest and least likely to shit the bed

>>100173104
>google search
>4080 dead reddit
Ok last you, fucking retard

>>100173107
powercolor
sapphire
xfx

>>100173107
EVGA made the best nshittia cards.

I don't need a 7900GRE but I see that it's down to €590 from 770 and my hand wants to click the buy button

>>100173107
depends 3000 series was asus tuf

>>100173108
https://www.google.com/search?q=4070+driver+issues+site%3Areddit.com

>>100173115
well anon I thought it was obvious but in case you didn't get it I was asking about manufacturers that still exist and still produce cards

>we don't need multi gpu - crossfire

>drivers do not matter - Omega!

>DX9 SM3 is useless

>physx are gimmick

>DX10 sucks, wait for DX10.1

>CUDA/GPGPU is a gimmick

>tessellation is useless

>encoding quality doesn't matter

>VLIW frame pacing is fine

>HD 4000 AF is not broken

>GCN drivers will fix everything

>DX11 Sucks wait for DX12

>game works don't matter, gpuopen better

>Virtual Reality is a Gimmick

>HBM experience will bring enormous gains for future products

>wait for Vega HBM-cache

>wait for the fixed Vega

>ROCm is Open Source!

>AI don't matter

>DLSS is a gimmick

>mesh shader is useless

>wait for fixed black screen RDNA1

>DX12 shader stutter sucks wait for DX13

>RT is a gimmick

>wait for fixed power with multi-monitor

>wait for the fixed RDNA3

>Xillinx will fix ROCm!

>Framegen is a gimmick

>PathTracing is gimmick

>Productivity software doesn't matter

>zluda better than CUDA!

>lemme hit enter twice after every sentence so my post seems bigger and more important than it actually is

Is native fps over 60hz really useless for non-competitive games? Most video games seem to shit themselves above that number. I like my 120hz C2 for its responsiveness however.

>>100171963
WHERE IS THE BOARD IN THE OP??????

>>100173390
"Useless" in that it doesn't give you any competitive advantage, yes. Maybe in rhythm games or something similarly fast-paced.OTOH, it is useful in that it's noticeably smoother and therefore more enjoyable. Enjoyment is rather the point of gaming.

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5800x3d and 4000mhz ram
vs
7800x3d and 6000mhz ram
also holy shit my boot times are so much slower now. like from 5 seconds to 30 seconds
not worth it
shitty ass msi b650 tomahawk wifi
sticking with Asus next time

>>100173542
asus for am5 don't make me puke

>>100173570
idk my tuf gaming x570 was great

>>100173499
I mean, some game engines don't handle high fps very well, if at all. 120 fps with frame generation from 60 fps native might be a decent compromise.

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Is this accurate?

>>100173542
asus tuf b650m here, boot times are ~ 30 sec (without MCR)

>>100173570
what's wrong?

>>100173604
oh so its just an am5 problem

>>100173596
Yeah sure 60FPS is still perfectly playable but it's nice to have more when possible. The good thing is that every gaming monitor has adaptive sync now so you don't have to compromise.

my ryzen 5600 only supports up to 3200mhz memory according to the specs, what will happen if I put 3600 or higher in my pc

>>100173636
and you can't use sleep mod on am5 unless you are fine with your ddr5 memory bandwidth being compromised

>>100173542
You did a single-gen upgrade what did you expect? It isn't 2003 any more - progress has slowed. Which certainly sucks but there's nothing we can really do about it.

Alienware AW3423DWF 34.2" 3440 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor


Is this one still good? I heard there was a lot of problems with updating bios?

>>100173636
it's ddr5 problem (enable MCR if you want faster boot times in exchange for stability)

>>100173662
mode*

>>100173651
The CPU spec is just what AMD will warrant - they won't refund your CPU if it won't run >3200MT/s. There's a high chance 3600 will work just fine assuming you have a decent board and don't lose hard on the silicon lottery. Small chance it won't work and you'll need to downclock or tune. I wouldn't recommend buying primo RAM for a /new/ AM4 system because the gains are so marginal and the budget is obviously tight. Whereas feel free to try 3600 if you're upgrading the capacity and want to get the most life out of the platform. Just don't mix it with your old sticks.

>>100173651
overclocking happens

>>100173542
its either gigabyte or asrock if you want fast boot times on am5

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Hi, i wanted to know if anyone can tell me their experience with AIO Water Coolers?
I have the option to either get the BE Quiet Silent loop 2 or the NZXT Kraken 360 elite. I get some weird info about the Be Quiet, that it fails and dies Quickly. I guess what i want to know is which one has the longer lifespan and doesn't make to much noise. Any advice is appreciated

>>100173813
Nzxt uses asetek's design as a base, they're the standard for reliability in the aio market. I've only had 1 aio die out of 6 or so in the last decade, and that was due to an electrical surge from a lightning strike exacerbated by a shitty alienware oem psu.

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>>100171963
TSMC 2nm will no longer have BPD in 2026. Meanwhile Intel will have it in its 20A node in a few months. AMD is done.

>>100173834
So you recommend the Kraken over the Be Quiet?
I had only one thats why i made this post, it was the H150 XT from corsair and it created a real annoying humming vibration sound at certain fan rpm. I always used Air Cooler and prefer a run and forget type Style. I dont mind fan noise but that Corsair fan was beyond good and evil

>>100173973
The kraken has a good pump but their fans are pretty shite

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>>100173911
>Meanwhile Intel will have it in its 20A node in a few months.
Sure

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>>100173981
Damn, why cant things be simple. I just don't want annoying ear rape while i watch videos or play Games. Like i said i don't mind the sound of fans as long as its nothing crazy. But resonance and humming noises drive me insane. I heard good stuff about arctic but i cant get those

>>100174043
skill issue

>>100171963
Again this radeon tranny how come there isnt any intel/ryzen shilling

>>100171980
Intel screwed up hard while amd ran.

Nvidia, always runs when it can and they're insanely good at almost everything they do while having more resources than amd. MASSIVE Marketshare advantage only amplifies amds plight further.

>>100171990
Do you use raytacing?

Did i made a mistake by buying 5600 instead of 12400f for 4060. 5600 was 20€ less on its own and the 1700 board would also cost me 10-15€ more then the AM4 i got

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>>100174069
Well that might well be the case, which is why i am here to figure out what to get.

>>100174125
yes

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what now?

Which is the most quiet cooler fan for a 7800x3d? I plan on doing a semi sff pc but not too small where heat doesn't have a place to escape

>>100174302
why 32gb ram 16 is enough for that build

>>100174125
Kinda, but it's not the end of the world.

One question, i already asked that some months ago but i still can't figure it out
When i turn on my PC for the first time of the day it always sounds like this:
https://vocaroo.com/1d8lfc7gI32e
And then it suddenly stops after a couple of minutes of being turned on and is fine for the rest of the time using it
Now i switched my PSU, GPU, CPU COOLER/FAN so none of these things could be the problem as the PC sounded the same before doing the mentioned replacements. What else could it be?

are ryzen 9000 and radeon 8000 worth waitfagging for?

>>100174382
HDD?

>>100174382
If you have a mechanical drive it's begging you to end its agony

>>100174398
maybe

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>>100174411
>HDD
Hmm could be, but when i try to listen to the sound of where it's coming from it's not near the HDD, but it's old anyway, i should replace it sometimes
>>100174429
So HDD? The fucker is begging me for like a year already kek

So what should i get, are HDDs even a good optionsnowadays? Seems like i should just get a SSD, right?
>pic related the WD hard disk

Any new X-LED 34" monitors out this year?

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>>100171963
>>100173037
High tier for sure. Love that bellybutton.

>>100174488
I mean if you've already tested every other component that has moving parts, it can only be the HDD
These days you should only buy an HDD if you really need a ton of cheap storage, otherwise I'd stick with SSDs. In fact I recently removed the HDD from my PC and relegated it to external backup drive

>>100174488
Its a 1TB disk, unless you want to expand to like 8TB then just get an SSD to replace it

>>100174528
>>100174529
Ok i'll just get a 1 TB SSD then + the case and everything, thank you lads

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Hello. I took out the jumper pins and forgot where they go. I have a b450m motherboard

First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set.

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>>100174576
Lol wtf even is this speed for my current HDD? rpm? not used to this, only know the MB/s from the SSD

Why would you want to have an ITX mobo?

>>100174895
More rpm means more speed, old drives were 5400, 7200 rpm is decent, 10000 rpm is pro shit
I also have a 7200 rpm WD black and the read speed is about 180 MBs

>>100174895
7200 RPM is pretty standard for an HDD

>>100174903
no one 'wants' an ITX motherboard - not even SFFPC enthusiasts.

>>100174903
>>100174929
Damn it, I meant to say why would you want an ITX mobo in an ATX case? It's (usually) compatible and all that, but...why?

>>100174915
>>100174928
Interesting, if yours is 180 MBs, then i guess the Samsung SSD 870 EVO won't be that bad as it says it's around 560/530 MBs

>>100175021
That's about the max you'll get from a SATA SSD
There's more to drive performance than read and write speeds but either way yeah that SSD will do everything noticeably quicker

So,

A few reputable sources have come out and said that Qualcomm's Oryon CPU has terrible performance, and worse than that, they faked the benches. Not just cherry picked, not just fudged some scores, but just straight up bullshitting the numbers. But the most surprising thing for me, was finding out that everyone else on the internet was totally unsurprised and considered this par for Qualcomm.

WinRT is just a dead piece of shit after this, basically an even worse version of Android. Fucking crazy that the company doing the most to bring ARM to consumer computers is motherfucking Apple, and they're even doing a great job.

>>100174842
rtfm 4 ur mobo

>>100174954
Compatibility is a formality that case manufacturers list because they can do it.
It's like saying that someone could run a 360mm radiator with a single 120mm fan on it.
But of course, there exist 120mm radiators that you could more appropriately use 120mm fans on.

>>100174842
No one fucking knows whichever board you have. Even if we knew exactly what board you had, we still wouldn't know.
RTFM retard

>>100174895
>60 USD for ewaste

>>100175205
hey it's on sale from 99.9 USD!

anon how much would you or did you spend on your 1440p monitor?

>>100172224
yeah some of the advice lacks any common sense like for a silent pc they think you should put the pc in another room and route cables through the wall so the wall will muffle it instead of making it actually silent

>>100174842
what model of b450m, google the manual and it tells there where the case panel pins go.

I found something called Ai tweaker in my bios and it made my cpu go from 3700mhz to 4200mhz. I have a 5600x with an assassin x 120 refined cooler. Its on on an old b350ma motherboard. This should be fine right? my pc will shut itself off if its going badly right

I think i only have the 8 pin power to my motherboard should i put in the extra one is it needed if i want to do this?

>>100175350
LG 27GR95QE looks ebin for gaymen because OLED, high refresh rate and quick response time, but it might a bit early to adpot OLED technology if you don't need a monitor asap, for office tasks the RWGB subpixel layout isn't ideal for text rendering and there are burn-in concerns if you have UI elements that appear in the same spot for long periods of time

>>100175350
1440p? I'm playing on CRT

>>100175628
I thought CRT was based at first but you guys are just a bunch of faggots
>Verification not required

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>>100174315
Scythe Mugen 6 black edition is a relatively cost-efficient cooler, ITX compatible too.
NH-U12A if you want the very best silent air cooler.
Wonder Tornado are the fans bundled on the Mugen 6 BE, NF-A12x25 is the fan bundled with the U12A (+$30).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rV9wrH/scythe-mugen-6-dual-fan-6029-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-6000dbe

>>100173441
OP is trolling and used an outdated version

>>100175767
IT is for faggots, for only mentally ill people can reliably get into the topic. Homosexuality is a illness so it correlates.

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i dont know if /pcbg/ is the right thread but, do you guys know of a decent monitor arm to get?

>>100176071
one of my co-workers was shilling some amazon monitor arm once

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>>100171963
why didnt you assholes tell me i needed to download a driver for my motherboard and how to skip the wifi step when it wont pick up wifi or ethernet?

>>100174520
hot villainous sec with drake

>>100173542
>>100173604
Is this some inside joke? 30 seconds to boot? My old ass PC boots in 10-15 seconds and I was thinking about upgrading to AM5. This can't be real, right?

>>100176114
to bypass the sign-in on Windows 11 press Shift + F10, click in the window and type oobe\bypassnro
It will reboot and when it comes back up, the option for I don't have Internet will appear and continue with limited will follow

>>100176071
if you're a burger, amazon basics gas spring arm.
if you're a yuropoor, arctic x1-3d
if you're rich, ergotron LX for normal monitors, HX for bigbois like the g9

>>100176114
Pretty sure none of us recommended the Strix A board; it's for children.

when are new GPUs coming

>>100176322
you assholes didnt help

>>100173662
The fuck? If it's that bad, why do AM5 motherboards still support that?

>>100175551
the chip will only safely KO itself if it exceeds a hard limit temperature or voltage that is set by the manufacturer. it is easy to overclock close to, but not past these limits and significantly reduce the lifespan of the chip
so no, "it will shut itself off before it hurts itself" is not practically true in the longterm

Can sunlight damage my computer? This was not an issue before but now my case has a glass panel and its 38c outside so its quite hot

>>100174315
list the exact CPU cooler height clearance to get the best answer.

>>100176482
sunlight can cause degradation in the elasticity of plastics which contain plasticizers, possibly including coolant tubing

>>100176137
It's not the 80s anymore when you just turn on your machine and its rom is already loaded before the screen warms up.
Now we have DDR5 which needs training and checking at startup.
It's called progress.

>>100176518
>needs training at startup
>still unstable at advertised speeds
I could overclock my ddr4 3200 ram within an inch of its life on a "meh" motherboard and it was stable as fuck

DDR5 at basic bitch 6000mhz struggles

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7d4VW
>country: romania
>budget: unlimited
what case can fit the 4090
also thinking about changing the mobo
what do you guys think?

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need a recommendation for a new mouse, as my current one pic related is dying (currently doubling clicking and non-responsive clicking) i've bought this mouse twice, i really like how light it is and the shape is very ergonomic for me. the first one had the wire partially break, it's still usuable. but it's time i moved on.

>>100176388
supposedly high-end nvidia is due late 2024

>>100174520
what a god damn dork

https://youtube.com/shorts/9byTq6IxeaY
So AMD has just fucking given up and the 8000 series tops out at 7700XT performance?

WHAT THE FUCK

>>100176632
like mr eceleb said, this isn't news to anyone

>>100176646
niggerniggernigger its news to people with lives who don’t spend all day reading spec sheets, watching YouTube, arguing on imageboards and jerking off to loli hentais dressed
up as graphics cards like you, little beta cuck bitch.

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I think my 4TB mechanical drive is dying. Sometimes it's really loud, sometimes it's unusually slow and rarely I get a blue screen while trying to access files in it. What program should I use to check it's health? The manufacturer's diagnostic tool didn't tell me much other than it passed it's check. If I'm going to replace it, what should I replace it with? Another mechanical drive like the WD black? Or a cheap SATA SSD? All my M2 slots are taken up right now. The primary role of this HDD is some media storage and storage of older games that don't need a SSD

>>100176388
Late this year is the current guesstimate.

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>>100176590
>>country: romania
Give it back

>>100176632

they literally can't compete at the high-end. focusing mid and entry-tier GPUs just makes more market sense to both them as a company and to consumers looking for value. not everyone can buy or even needs a high-end GPU.

the real question is what is nvidia going to do about their entry and mid-tier GPUs in the 5000 and later product stack. because it's generally accepted the 4060-4070 were terrible value propositions and the 4080 and 4090 were only ones worth getting. i can't imagine the market segment for mid and entry-tier GPUs can stand being shit on by nvidia for so long, as nvidia's oversales and market share have shrunk the past few years.

>>100176590
You're not running 4x DDR5 kits at 7200MT/s, safest is 2x 32GB @ 6000MT/s CL30.
Anything higher is a gamble with dual-rank modules.
Using all four DDR5 slots isn't recommended because the memory controller isn't guaranteed to be able to handle it above JEDEC specs.
Board is fine, it's basically an ASRock board with NZXT cosmetics.
Alternatives below.
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/MZWJ7P/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/TDXV3C/gigabyte-z790-aorus-pro-x-wifi7-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-pro-x-wifi7
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/bQXJ7P/gigabyte-z790-aorus-master-eatx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-master

Lian Li Lancool 216 will fit that card.

>>100176632
supposedly they will get around that with muh cache
staying on gddr6 is a move to cut costs and keep the price low against nvidia
rdna4 is all about catering to poorfags wich is the right thing to do since they neglected AI

>>100176632
>tops out at 7700XT performance?
VRAM speed isn't why the 7700XT performs the way it does. AMD is responding to the market that wants GPUs at $500 or less with good raster and enough VRAM for modern bullshit.

>>100171980
Its greed, they have a 300mm2 GCD die 6700 XT size in 7900 XTX with other bits around it (MCD), cheap to produce and they charge it 1000$, 0 competitiveness from them, they release garbage pricing at launch, get shit reviews then they lower the price after

What's the recommended way to use two or more hard drives?
Obviously the fastest one is for the OS but do you use the others as if they were external drives, or do you change windows so the user directories are in the other drive(s)?

>>100176872
install windows on one drive
then use disk management to partition your other drives

>>100176457
>still support that?
sleep mode? it's slowly getting fixed with the agesa updates

how common are dead pixels in new monitors these days?
thinking of getting a 1440p IPS monitor soon

>>100176114
>why didnt you assholes tell me i needed to download a driver for my motherboard and how to skip the wifi step when it wont pick up wifi or ethernet?
Because this is a matter for >>>/g/fwt/ or >>>/g/sqt/

>>100174842
You only really need PWR SWITCH btw

>>100176707
Victoria, full "read" scan with the "remap" option

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about to pull the trigger on this, hearing recommendations

>>100176595
just buy whatever man, if you're not investing ridiculous money on mices, any 20 buck model will suffice, personally I would keep buying the same model I'm used to.

>>100177230
downgrade to 12600k(f)
downgrade to ddr4
downgrade to a cheaper z690 mobo that supports ddr4
use the savings to upgrade to 4080super

btw all this assumes you're doing a build primarily targeted at AAAs
if you wanted to do esports/strategy/autism sims, you'd need to go the other way, with a 7800x3d and a downgrade to 4070super

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>buying the GRE

>>100176518
So it's not a joke at all? Is there a 'fix' for this? I don't belive people are coping with such boot times.

upgrading my 12400f build and I'm wondering is it worth to get the 6650xt for a bit over 300$ while rx 6600 costs around 236$ in my country? 7600 is priced like 20$ more than the 6650 xt.

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I still haven't found a better ITX case than the OG NCase M1.
Anyone got suggestions for anything tat can hold big GPUs & 240mm AIO?

>>100177356
>all this assumes you're doing a build primarily targeted at AAAs
correct, but also messing around in blender and premiere, would ddr5 be justified then?

I've heard a little bit about GPU sag. Does preventing it depend on the exact combination of parts I end up settling on or are there general principles and solutions to help prevent it?

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>>100177516
vertical mounting

what would happen if i get 420 mm cooler instead of 360, will i have enough clearance for the ram and gpu?

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>>100177449
For 1080 ultra, according to Tom's Hardware
6600 : 65 fps $236
6650XT: 77fps $300 = 18% more performance for 27% more money
7600: 82fps $320 = 26% more performance for 36% more money
They're not great deals, no matter how you look at it. At least they all clear 60fps on 1080p ultra.

>>100176464
Great answer bro. So basically just go back to 3700mhz cuz i probably only gain 10 fps but might take 3 years off my cpu

>>100177471
>would ddr5 be justified then?
probably not, especially not if you have to pick between ddr5 and a beefier gpu
but feel free to DYOR, im sure there's benchmarks

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>>100177638
These graphs are not accurate.
$15 extra for the 6650 XT is well worth it for Americans and in fact better value than the RX 6600.
Better to consult a live website.
https://bestvaluegpu.com/

>>100177660
yeah. you wouldn't drive your car by redlining it constantly if you want it to last. many people undervolt their cpu because they would rather have less fan noise than another 5fps

>>100177471
>>100177733
Never grab a KF CPU if you use premiere a lot. The iGPU in the non F CPU's is well worth it.
So don't buy the 12600KF like the other anon recommended.

>>100177516
>>100177542
That, stands you can buy for 8$ provided you have a psu shroud, rails that install underneath and fit into the other PCIe backplate (some AMD cards come with these)

>>100177757
You're right, the American market is a lot better.
I was using the prices provided by that specific anon from whatever country he's in.
Normally, I would go for the 6700XT, or 6750XT, since that is where I found the best value for price/performance.

https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta34f0b-47s1n-tanto/p/N82E16883630048?Item=N82E16883630048

Worth it for family friend? I don’t live near them, and they aren’t comfortable building.

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>>100177884
>1 stick of RAM
it's shit.

>>100177230
13th gen was discontinued by Intel probably because of failures with i9 13900 i.e. overheating leading to failing memory controllers. I would get either a 14600K or 12th gen and if the former disabled Enhanced Turbo in BIOS unless you truly see a usecase for very overclocked CPU performance

>>100177542
>>100177816
Do I need specific stands for whatever case/GPU/motherboard I have or do they just work?

>>100177884
>Worth it for family friend? I don’t live near them, and they aren’t comfortable building.
You should build even if you're uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable, and I built my PC, and it turned out fine. Many anons here have anxiety, autism or schizophrenia and have a well built, working PC.

>>100177930
It’s the one thing that bugs me about this.
>>100177980
I told them it’s like legos, but a lot of folks just want plug and play. Idk.

>>100177957
supports will have a limited range that they will work in so you'll need to measure the clearance in your particular gpu/case combo

>>100177884
>cooler
bad
>ram
bad
>case
ugly and bad
they could have added more fans
>psu
bad. i would be surprised if it doesn't crash in AAA games, 650 is right at the edge

built to fail but not a huge rip off for the part cost. if you shopped for deals you could fix all the problems and probably pay around 1k for everything

>>100178053
>I told them it’s like legos, but a lot of folks just want plug and play. Idk.
Tell them you're disappointed in them.

>>100178118
Nah, that system but with a ryzen 7600 would cost about the same price, you'd just have actually good parts and working RAM.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVqKDZ

>>100176595
Kone Pro

>>100177516
this>>100177542 or a 10 buck support that comes with the heavier cards, or you can make your own using anything, even toilet paper rolls.

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can't wait to go home and use my RTX 3080 to play nikke.

>>100178131
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgb4VW

>>100178131
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YRvLgB
You could save 100$+ with a 7800XT and have more VRAM and similar performance unless you're doing like VR gaming. Found one on ebay for 460 "Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming OC 16GB Gaming Graphics Card"

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>>100178275
What do you do in that game? Just sit with a pic related face?

>>100174520
n4k4d4shi

>>100178355
That's a lie, because most of the savings come from the fact you selected a smaller SSD.

>>100178275
This game reminds me that I could be buying a 4090 right now instead of looking at the 4070~7900XTX range if I hadn't spent on gacha.

>>100178582
That's what the prebuilt specs had.

>>100171963
Does streaming at 4k still cost a fuckton of money?

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Any suggestions for this?

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Looks fine?
I already have GTX 1650 and will stick to it for now.
Gonna reuse my case and 500W PSU.

Recommend me a cheap small thinkpad that is able to boot from a sd card

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>>100179050
>balling the fuck out
>boring 75$ black case
anon...

Is my 12700k depreciated already for gaming?

With Dragons Dogma 2 being a thing, I wonder if it'd time to upgrade? Not to mention I'm using a DDR4 mobo.

>>100179166
It's still fine. 13700k is an upgrade, but not a huge one.
If you want a CPU upgrade, wait for Arrow Lake and Zen 5. That'll be a bigger leap.

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What can I do to improve this build for gaming? And amateur Video compression / Photo Editing.

>>100171963
Everyone recommends AMD. I have a feeling I can't take that risk and want to be a good goyslopper and go for Nvidia.
Is any card worth it in your opinion?

>3090 ti 24gb vram
>600-1k on ebay
isn't that pretty cheap?

>>100179249
Are ryzen still worth for gaming?

>>100179644
7800X3D is currently the king of gaming and 9800X3D is expected to be the new champion.
Intel is currently better for budget builds or mixed productivity & gaming.

>>100179255
Do this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tzs6bL
More multicore performance plus QuickSync. CUDA too for editing. Rest of the changes are just common sense improvements/optimizations.

If you'd like to keep AM5 for longevity reasons then just swap out the necessary components. Could drop the cooler down to a £20 single tower if need be.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yBJFL9
You'll lose a bit on the encode/compression side but gain a bit on the gaming side. Honestly nbd either way since you're not making money from it.

Also, don't buy WiFi AM5 boards they (almost) all use garbage chipsets. Better to use an add-in card.

I'm interested by an AMD mini PC as an every day machine. After reading a bit, i think i'll stay away from chinese ones for now. I'm in France but buy in all UE when better offers.
An online seller is offering some Asrock X300 deskmini as refurb/return with 8 month warranty with a 40% reduction from new.
Along a 5500GT CPU (new unless i find a refurb/return) and 16go (2x8go) 3200 mhz and a M.2 SSD.
Make sense or waste of money ?
Asrock Deskmini X600 are late so no AM5 for now.

>>100179718
>Also, don't buy WiFi AM5 boards they (almost) all use garbage chipsets. Better to use an add-in card.
why do you say this?

>>100179743
Because, to the best of my knowledge, it's true and useful information. There have been numerous reports of the Realtek/Mediatek chips suffering slow speeds and dropout. Of course it could well work fine for you if you do but I'm honour bound to mention it.

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Day 385 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>100171963
Any motherboard recommendations?
Why isn't there any on the OP?

>>100179845
ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 mATX
that was on the OP a few threads ago, and I'm building my PC with it

>>100179845
The right motherboard is the cheapest one that can drive your CPU and fits your requirements re. connectivity and expansion. That's different for every build.

>>100180067
If someone doesn't know a lot about it, they are going to be jewed on a shop right?

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>>100171963
im doing a new build
I ran into an issue

I got the driver for the GPU but it cant be recognized
It lights up but the fans dont turn on
I downloaded the driver and put it on the pc
when I open it it attempts to find but fails

parts list in pic

tdlr
my brand new Graphics card cant be found when opening the driver folder
and also it wont even boot up with the driver installed

My friends uncle built it for me and is stubborn and wont let me plug it directly into the wall

Im sure my PSU is strong enough but he had a bunch of shit plugged into the same thing

>>100180107
Whew, that's all over the place...

My cpu idles at 40c but will niggaboost and hit 60 tctl/tdie for a second for minor tasks like opening tabs

At full load it behaves normally

But this bothers me, is it normal?

>>100180098
Depends on the shop I suppose.
Realistically there's not much technical information you need to know. It's mostly asking questions of yourself - How many USB ports do I use? Do I use WiFi or BT? Can I take advantage of 2.5G/10G LAN? etc. etc. etc.
For the power delivery (VRM) side check out HWUB's roundup videos.

>>100180190
I worry about any kind of bottlenecks or possibility of upgrading (adding components or changing for new ones).

>>100180182
Yes perfectly normal. Lets you have an efficient CPU while keeping the user experience snappy. If the fan noise is bothersome then increase the Step Time setting in your BIOS. A proper heatsink can soak those transient loads in the metal.

>>100171963
>I5 14600KF 14 Cores
>Inno3D RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB
>ASUS Prime B760-Plus D4
>32GB RAM (2x16GB) 3200 MHz CL16 AData XPG Gammix D35
>1TB SSD M.2 AData Gammix S11 Pro
>Cooler CPU Slayer RX 240 ARGB + Auto RGB Mirror
>Case ATX Abysm Danube SAVA 285 Black ARGB
>PSU NTech Hydra 750W 80+ Bronze

Does this look any good?

>>100179718
I'll have a look at both builds.
I am leaning towards AM5 for the longevity, I'm not certain how long I'd have to wait for intel to be on a new socket or if they even do long term socket support.
Yea, it's totally amateur and not a professional or side gig. It's just a hobby.
>Also, don't buy WiFi AM5 boards they (almost) all use garbage chipsets. Better to use an add-in card.
I wasn't aware of this, thank you for warning me.
Thanks a lot anon.

>>100180221
Then spec the VRM to your expected upgrade. If upgrades are a consideration then you're looking at AM5 which is good news because most boards over $120 can run any AM5 CPU on the market. Hell, most B650+ boards in general can run them all in 105W mode.

>>100180272
That's fair. Intel will be changing socket with the next gen so AM5 is the right play for longevity. Though going from a 12600K to a 14700K would still offer a big uplift in multicore if needed.

>>100180144
ok ill try again
Im at the point of the set up where i have windows installed and the driver for the motherboard installed
When i plugged in the GPU it lit up but fans didnt turn on
Its either one of 3 things
the PSU is not enough
the power strip I was plugged into wasnt supplying the full load from the outlet
DOA

>>100180271
psu u want reputable brands seasonic/super flower/corsair/evga/montech also ATX 3.0 make sure you get their warranty. i'd get an 850w also.

>>100180367
What about this motherboard aren't I getting screwed here with this choice?

>>100178454
you gamble and collect all the fat asses you want and then jerk off while they auto fight some giant robot machine creature

>>100180107
gpu's don't always spin but when under load
power is fine it either works or doesn't, if it doesn't your pc will shut down
this may be obvious but make sure you plug into your gpu not the mobo
try finding your gpu in task manager->performance tab
try running windows update/optional windows updates
if device manager has unrelated missing drivers try installing your mobo drivers i/e/ chipset/lan/storage etc. find on your manufacturers website
gpu should appear in task manager after installing driver from nvidia and running their 'express' wizard thing
>>100180397
i didn't look but for 200$ you're getting
>only an 8pin for cpu
>ddr4
>no 14th gen support
>3 m.2 slots isn't bad, but you can get boards with 4 for like 130$ like msi mag tomahawk ddr5 also they all have heatsinks
yea that sucks
RAM MHz is pretty low your cpu supports like 6000 i think
never heard of that gpu manufacturer. not sayting thats a bad thing but random brands you won't have much idea what you're in for

>>100180397
also i'd get a dual fan from thermalright water cooling is a meme the radiators fail far more frequently than they should

is there any point getting 4000mhz DDR4 for a 5800X3D if i already have 2x16 3600 cl16 dual rank sticks

>>100180107
you also may as well get the latest mobo bios

>>100180585
No, 3600 CL18 is the second sweetspot

>>100180585
There is not. Mostly because 4GT/s won't run on >90% of AM4 CPUs and doubly so because the X3D chips aren't particularly memory sensitive.

>>100180545
>>100180560
>AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Octa Core
>Inno3D RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB
>ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus
>32GB RAM (2x16GB) DDR5 5200 MHz CL40 AData Lancer RGB
>1TB SSD M.2 AData Spectrix S40G RGB
>Water Cooler Slayer RX 360 ARGB
>Case ATX Abysm Danube SAVA H500 ARGB
>PSU FSP Hydro K Pro ATX3 750W 80+ Bronze
Went up on the budget. Does this one look better?

7800xt price drops when

>>100180545
ill give it a shot thanks
parts list looks fine for PSU right?

>>100180627
i had to update the bios to get internet
it made me go into taskmgr in order to skip that step in windows install

>>100180678
>Went up on the budget. Does this one look better?
Not really, bronze PSU and the RAM is super duper slow

>>100180926
you don't need to buy windows 11
get a usb stick make an iso of windows use rufus or windows service to make a bootable usb stick boot to it in your new system install w11, once it restarts and tries to make you sign up for microsoft account type shift+f10 or shift+fn+f10, click on cmd window, type OOBE\BYPASSNRO, wait for it to reboot, then shift+f10, now "ipconfig /release", then go through prompts and skip microcock account use a local account its better because onedrive is a shit, once you're in desktop envrionment open powershell, type "irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex" then type 1 to activate your installation of windows.

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>>100180923
everything price drop when

>>100180985
Everything else is okay?
I might try to change those in the shop and they might let me change it.
Should I go for the PSU and RAM lists on the OP as a suggestion?

>>100180923
How much do you think a 7800 XT should cost to be worth it?

>>100181091
less

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fV2qMV
>USA
>$400-500
How do I fix my bottlenecked i5-10400 for gaming and Ableton? Guessing that just upgrading to an 11th gen i7/i9 cpu is bad considering 11th gen is old and was apparently horrible. If I'll have to get a new mobo with a newer CPU socket, any ideas what mobo (preferably with wifi but not needed) and cpu combo is best for like 400-500 USD? Will the PSU need to be upgraded too? Ty anons

Is the front panel usb header for 3.2gen2 and 3.2gen2x2 backwards compatible? Case I'm looking at is gen2 but the motherboard is gen2x2.

>>100181190
Microcenter if you can https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx
Otherwise you are stuck with a 7600(x) for $400 or 7700X (avoid nonX) for $500.

PSU is probably fine https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

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>>100175508
Reminder that this schizo faggot wrote a wall of incomprehensible text just to ask his dumb ass question
>needs a quiet noise floor for audio work
>gets upset when the simplest solution is suggested (isolating the PC from said work space)
>has some dog shit Zalman cooler he bought off Amazon for $10 and thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread
>some variation of picrel

throw yourself off your dilapidated residence slav/favela/SEA monkey

>>100181190
As the other anon suggested, if you live near a Microcenter nab one of their bundles. Else, the 12600KF/13600KF is a good upgrade that let you reuse your existing RAM, or you can upgrade to AM5 instead (7800X3D Microcenter bundle, or a 7600).

I'd personally go for Intel for your usecase though. On AMD setup any instability in the Infinity Fabric due to RAM overclock (even with XMP/EXPO profile on "safe" settings like 6000CL30) is going to manifest as USB instability and audio crackling. You can leave XMP/EXPO off of course, but that's leaving performance on the table.

>Intel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2FWvj - Feel free to sub the CPU for a 12600KF and pocket the difference. I also added in a replacement PSU since there's room in the budget, 600W is a little tight and its a low end unit in the first place.

>AMD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HxLgB - Can save a few bucks getting the 7600 instead of the 7600X, which also comes with a stock cooler.

>>100180098
Mobo is one of those things that gets horrendously under or overspecced in builds by people who don't know much about it. CPU as well, there are some people that's convinced you need an i7 to open more than a couple of Windows, or that you NEED an i7 or i9 to pair with a higher end GPU. Like fuck there was some /v/tard here posting the same shit a couple of threads ago. And obviously in a shop they're going to take any opportunity to get you to spend more.

With AM5 its simpler, because the lineup of boards is fairly sane, minus some of the ewaste low end boards released recently. If you don't know what you need, you probably can't go wrong with an Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 or Pro RS, but even if you just pick a random board under $200 you probably have a 4/5 chance of getting something decent.

>>100181405
Yes.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/usb-3-2-explained

>>100179743
Its been a well known thing for a while with laptop. If you buy a laptop and it has shit wifi, the fix is nearly always a $20 Intel card. AMD boards and laptops for one reason or another no longer ship with Intel wifi after 2021, and Qualcomm Atheros no longer makes M.2 E-key format cards (you can still find them on high end AMD Thinkpad though as a soldered card), which leaves manufacturers with Mediatek (officially the AMD RZ616, shit drivers) or Realtek (RTL8852CE usually, shit hardware, ok drivers). So you have a choice of unstable wifi, or somewhat stable but slow wifi when you buy boards with on-board wifi, which is not a choice at all when you can just get an Asrock board with an E-key slot and add an Intel AX200 desktop kit for $20.

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>14700k not overclocked
>3080ti
>full watercool loop setup
>CPU idles at 40-50C
>while gaming it will be at 65-75C
>the smallest CPU usage spike will cause it to hit 100C and thermal throttle, resulting in me lagging in game
>even when I lowered a game to 1440p instead of 4k, I still get these random thermal throttle spikes
>notice on my monitoring software that CPU usage will spike from 15% to 50% when it throttles for just a sec, but I don't have a clue what it is

Is my cooling setup just really bad? I have my GPU and CPU in the loop with two 360mm rads.

pic related, ignore that digital display for the temp it's like 12 degrees under the real temp

>>100181984
my CPU idles at 25-30C

>>100182028
hmm, so bad paste or bad cpu cooler?

maybe I should get a different one

>>100182034
your cooler is probably seated incorrectly or you have insufficient paste. the magnitude of your problem exceeds that of quality. a low quality cooler or paste won't cause spikes to 100c

>>100182076
I looked up my specific waterblock and found a bunch of redditors with similar issues, 2 of them said they bought a different water block and saw temps drop 10-15 degrees

>>100182198
on my first read of your post i thought you said you "looked AT (my) specific water block" and found redditors between the block and the IHS

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>>100182198
>>100181984
I can either get a $109 Arctic Liquid Freezer III cooler and keep one 360mm rad I have on the side just for my GPU only, or I can buy a $250 EK water block and plop it in to the same setup and hope temps fall.

....I think I am done with custom loops. I'll do the former and then when I get my next GPU I'll take the rest of the watercooling crap out.

i'm upgrading from a 2700X to a 5800X3D tomorrow
is there anything i need to do other than update BIOS and the AMD X470 chipset drivers in Windows?

>OP is an AMD shill

lol

>>100182379
We've got AMD shills and Nvidia shills, but where are the Intel shills? When will I see only ARC GPUs and Intel CPUs on the OP?

Anyone ever bought any parts as open box from their local microcenter? Any risks? It looks like it's just items that were opened and returned within their 15 day return policy. They have Samsung 980 nvmes for dirt cheap at mine. Even cheaper than the cheapest WD nvmes.

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>>100179326
7900GRE is the best gpu right now

>>100182379
All AMD is the best combo right now

>>100182789
for 4k even?

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>>100182789
>7900GRE is the best gpu right now

>>100182695
Pretty common for the open box MB and CPUs to have damaged pins. Havent tried drives but they are probably just scavenged from those dead builds and are likely fine.

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>>100182816
>HD 7000

>>100182804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqVIsVtiz8

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>>100179326
>80% of the pc install base is geforce
No one recommends AMD outside of a few retarded shills, OP being one. Just look at Nvidia's meteoric stock price and ask yourself why and how, and let me tell you that was built on the bread and butter of gaming

>>100182940
This, I only root for AMD to hopefully make Nvidia cards cheaper I wouldn't actually use that crap.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsEpAdeo7yE

>>100182940
Starfield was one of the best selling games. That doesn't mean it's a good game.

>>100182927
Techmommy

>>100182816
>91%
techpowerup says 68%

>>100182976
>lots of fixes
Imagine needing fixes

>>100182949
>>100182940
you guys are too pessimistic about AMD, they just need to come up with an answer to CUDA and stop shipping the cards with a bunch of driver problems and they'll be competitive. two more years

Does DRAM SSD matter for boot drive? Thinking Acer GM7000, but if it doesn't matter will go for cheap Silicon Power.

>>100183127
DRAM-less isn't import anymore because modern SSDs use Host Memory Buffer (HMB) instead.

Basically instead of the SSD having it's own DRAM, it uses a tiny little bit of your PCs RAM.

>>100183183
important*

>>100182927
Let me guess, 4k is actually 4k using FSR performance, right?

>>100183200
the video/creator is also clearly sponsored by cooler master lmao

Imagine a white psu called "White Power" :>)

>>100183200
Actually showed native and FSR Quality performance numbers and they were better than I expected.
>>100183222
It seems so, a Hyper 212 in 2024? What the fuck.

>>100182882
So it's ok to buy drives but stay away from motherboards and cpus? How do you tell if the drive is damaged? Just plug it in and hope for the best?

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>>100183041
>>100183200
>>100183222
>>100183314
techmommy has a bigger monitor than you. her all amd rig is also better than your nvidia rig.

>>100183467
>cyberpunk without path tracing
ngmi

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>>100183590
>no fake frames or DLSS smearing just clear native

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>>100177099
>Victoria, full "read" scan with the "remap" option
So my HDD is fine actually?

>>100183640
>he doesn't know dlss is better than native in cyberpunk

>>100183686
What is victoria

>>100176707
crystaldiskinfo
smartmontools if you're on linux
run chkdsk if its an ntfs filesystem

>>100183467
she tested a coolermaster cooler without comparing to any thermalright or scythe products, we don't simp here

>>100182940
OP is a troll with outdated reccs

>>100182034
idk, this is with an air cooler

>>100183774
yeah water cooling is SUPPOSED to be better but maybe that was true in the past

>>100183782
>>100183782
>>100183782

>>100183590
>cyberpunk at all

>>100183786
>goalposts

>>100183445
A user cant really damage a drive in the return window, but can damage a cpu/mbo. They will let you exchange a dead part anyway. Check SMART for disk errors and fill the drive and do speedtests.

>>100183858
I'm surprised microcenter can get away with reselling dead parts like that. Don't they have to test the parts before reselling them?

Would you change an nvidia1050ti for a Chinese rx580?

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005004543351583.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.62e3194dcJYcwS&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

>>100176071
Ergotron, I have one and its pretty nice

>>100179050
You can skimp on the ssd. You wont really notice the difference in speed. 3500 something is fine. It will still be incredibly fast