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Good to know even a professional artist can still make a simple mistake.
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>>7375060
Do you blind begtards even looking at the image you're posting?
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>>7375209
Are you a troll? That's a different angle. Don't even start with it doesn't matter because it absolutely does. Your image looks fine.
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>>7375209
retard
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>>7375060
>responding with aishit

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I was living commission to commission but recently I got 4000$ in retroactive autismbux.

Is a 1500$ display tablet a sensible investment if I'm trying to become a pro, or should I save and keep using my screenless tablet that still feels unnatural after 5 years? (I know because I've used both types in electronics shops and Wacom showrooms).
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>>7375224
Yeesh
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>>7375224
I mean... it's not awful, but it's not exactly great either. For making such a big deal about measurements, your measurements are kinda all over the place. That's really your "I know what I'm talking about" proof?
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>>7374793

What? Anon you do know that you -do-walk back and up to your easel when doing sight-size right? You pick a fixed spot to do your measuring from, then walk to your easel to make a mark, then back to your fixed spot and measure again, back to your easel to adjust your mark...

.t did sight-size at an atelier
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>>7374916

>>7375236 here

Sorry, you clearly do, I didn't read the retard you're replying to
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Is this faggot still replying to himself after getting anally ravaged in his own thread?

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Previous episode >>7366640

>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Message vastian0988 on Discord for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!


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https://tiermaker.com/create/-dad--tierlist---9-30-24-17288437

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>Basic programs
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.synfig.org/
https://motorpen.com
https://tupitube.com/

>Reference
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/
https://www.catsuka.com/gengal/artworks/

>2D FX animation course:
https://bitey.com/pages/fx

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>>7375097
>I'm not sure digital is actually more expensive than traditional.
I guess it's more proper to say too poor to afford a drawing tablet.
I've definitely seen that trad has a lot more hurdles and expenses, but I've always drawn trad and it's what I naturally gravitated to before realizing that sticky notes would not cut it lol
>Do you have a computer?
I have an old laptop on windows XP. It runs pretty slowly with modern programs, but there are always older versions.
>Do you have a smart phone?
Yes
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Going to be out of college with a BA by 2026, how is the job scene looking? Should I be learning any specific programs besides Harmony right now to better my chances? Would grad study be a smart idea?
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>>7375230
That is a very grim statement my guy. Well, then again, it just looks grim from where we are standing. Maybe some good stuff will come about because of TAG in the coming years, but as it stands, if you're doing animation, work on that portfolio, network, but just keep in mind you'll probably gonna have to be doing a lot of independent work and that the market is currently in a big drought.
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>>7375108
you'll need a cheapo plastic transparent drawing pad, a portable light bulb/torch, and one of those tables with a drawer under the drawing table
voila ya got the ingredients for a rudimentary light table
i used something similar back in highschool
most animator's did it this way before tech
to compile n render there's a stop motion app for android
that lets you take pictures n align them yourself
might have to build a makeshift stand to get them consistently tho
on paper/ink you'll have to experiment with what you have available
i used the cheapest thinnest paper for rough pencil stuff
then sightly better paper with black ballpoint pens for cleaner renders
depending on the light source i'd reccomend limiting work time to avoid damaging your eyes
best of luck anon god speed

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Is it too much to ask that they teach you how to draw these toy mannequins? They always show them off in their books and tutorials—these super cool toy mannequins that would make it easy to pose figures from imagination. But then they just show them off as promo material and never teach you how to do it.

Is it too much to have a clean front/side view at least? So you can copy it? People like "Kawaii sensei" and "tenten/whiting" are guilty of this, but there are more.
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>>7375162
Vilppu sucks ass dude dont shill him here
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>>7375162
>Op (me) asks for resources on a specific topic for mmy studies.
>OP jUsSt WanTs MaGiC

Why is Ic/ like this?
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>>7375173
Hes projecting himself onto you lol
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>>7374626
I've been drawing my entire life but I don't know how to draw anything. I just construct shit and hope it looks good by the time I'm done.
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>>7374636
>>7374626
>Is it too much to ask that they teach you how to draw these toy mannequins?
As an artist, you are able to copy and reproduce anything that was once already drawn. What's your problem, try to think with your head and draw the same mannequin in a different pose. Don't be a retard, try using your hands, eyes and brain.

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5

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>>7375154
We know you like to project, so youre telling us you:
>Are starting to get restless over controlling the OP post next thread
>Have a NEED to keep the OP during black friday for shilling
>Are desperately engineering conversation in threads no one cares about (the 4 tablet threads you made that didnt take off?)
>Dont even trust that your products are good enough on their own anymore, now you have to resort to putting down the competition while shilling your own

Yeah ok sounds about right for wacum schizo.

What were you even doing all day, man? You dont draw. Were you busy with the camboys?
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>>7375082
why is there a cumstain on your screen
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>>7375172
Wacoomers literally jack off to the wacom logo.
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>>7375082
>that fucking horrific mess

I know your pain anon
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>>7375172
was drawing porn

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources:

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:

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I have returned from the box cave.
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>>7374770
Well ok you don't have to
But it's a good exercise.
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>>7374788
Dawg it ain't even been a week. You gotta let boxes into your heart. You need to be a schizophrenic faggot for boxes. See them everywhere and feel them with your soul. It takes more than a week. Twist em, join em, boil em mash em cook em in a stew. BOXESBOXESBOXES.

Anon,
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>>7374788
It looks like your'e still unconfident with your lines that comprise the boxes. Remember, point A to point B, ghost the line if you have to. At this stage, the straightness of the line is your goal. All art is a 2D illusion of depth upheld by the straightness of your lines.

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>no improvement of the brush engine and performance next year either
Oh well, I don't know what I expected. Does anyone else feel like they're spreading themselves too thin with all these 3D and vtuber bs? They're adding support for exporting subtools in bulk, so that's something at least.
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>>7374534
They've gone full subscription-scam. You can't use the mobile version without a subscription and you can't even get bug fixes for your "lifetime license". There's the recent bug where file previews are broken on macOS Sequoia and customer service will just tell you to upgrade to the current version of 3.0 if you want a bug fix. They should just admit they're selling unsupported old versions.
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>>7374534
Still can't beat krita 7.0
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It feels like SAI is literally the only software not going full retard on any platform
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>>7374561
Pls understand most humans can't afford 12$ a year for an update pass but they much rather spend that on wants like starbucks.
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>>7374534
>puppet warp fuck yes!!!!!
>still runs hardly any better on my 7800x3d than it did on my i5 2500k 13 years ago
fucking nipnong island niggers being 30 years behind the west in anything computer/software dev related we are not getting multithread support until japan reverts to cannibalistic rapist nigger cunts fuck this gay country

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1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

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This is Akemi Okuya aged 22. After being abused and cheated on by a 'chad' her age she now seeks the warmth and comfort from a virgin salaryman 15 years older than her. She has grown to appreciate job stability and the calm she feels from knowing her lover won't ever cheat on her. She is currently studying plastic arts at the local public university.
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>>7374890
This is the only good character design I have ever seen here
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This guy's called The Raven just a little sketching of him I did at work. He's a kind of secondary antagonist in the novel I'm working on.
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Verch and shaschalaschaka op from previous thread here, not only a request but also a thank you. Ive been in a creative swamp lately and all the fills and replies really moved me to work more with colors. So I went back to the lab and cooked up something new for the thread, plus expanded a little bit on the lore.
This is Hasdrubal lord leonorus, one of the King's generals, he's a smug book nerd who ended up in charge of a military legion. Sort of an academic rival to Verch. Have fun with the design.
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Drawing this girl over and over again... calms my spirit...

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Does not even have to be good, I've done a few pages of these literally just copying hands and even trying to draw some without looking at the reference.
Let's say... for every one drawn with reference, you must also draw it without reference.
You must then make a drawing utilizing what you've learned. Don't think too hard about it, just do what feels right and change what doesn't.

I'm just curious what the outcomes will be putting quantity over quality. Pic related.
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>>7374258
Great work, keep at it.
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>>7371074
I fucking SUCK at drawing cylinders so I will be posting 100 cylinders.

Great thread OP. We need more of this.
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>>7374258
Feel like really focusing on the nose made some of these a lot more achievable.
>>7374618
Thanks, anon. I'll keep it up til I hit 20 days.
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>>7374774
>only 1 word in french
owari da
Jk, really nice cylinders, anon. The perspective work will definitely help you a lot. I'm honestly pretty bad at perspective, but grinding it out like this helps a lot.

A place for asking questions, leaving reviews, and discussing anything and everything art supply related.

Special question for US based d/ic/ks: What are your plans for next year when the tariffs increase? Are you stocking up on anything or will it not effect you so much?
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>>7371465
7/10
not a must have IMO but the lead not getting sharp is so comfy
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>>7374499
meme feature
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>>7374501
Yes, But Comfy.
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>>7374499
shit tier nodraw pencil
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Any fun gimmick supplies you've noticed recently? What are the kids using, I don't have instagram and am looking for gift guides.

I tried, I really did. This isn't for me.
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>>7374815
I wish the schizos would go back to tripfagging so they can be filtered easily.

I have half of the fucking board hidden lately, so sick of this place
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i'm probably ngmi but at least i just use pencils and scrap printer paper that i take from work
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>>7374442

imposing upper christian actions on pagans is less work so hey now

what
what what what
you really should have donated it. think of all the wasteful carbon cycles that have to process the exhaust fumes of the BASEDBOY getting his delivery CHECKEM package by ACE DUBSMAN LIGHTNING WING MCCOY
then deciding drawing isnt for them because uh
well it just isnt?
idgaf.
when did 4chan become everyones personal blog? when will this site just die?

but yeah you could've made jessie smith grade 7's day when her single mother just sighs that they cant afford it. but look its a tablet just like at the store but cheaper! wow mom can i get it ? jessie practically marries the damn thing and all you had to do was not feed into the chinese xie xie XIE XIE DIE DIE sseriously

are asians so assblasted bad at internet or am i lame?
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>>7374442
>>7374446
This isn't twitter for you to virue signal. We all know you actuallydon't give a fuck about kids.
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>>7375210
>you actuallydon't give a fuck about kids
Do you even know where you are. Giving lots of fucks to kids is what we all crave for in here

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.


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Just redraw it dont fix the same drawing you already finished. Go learn something and then try drawing her again, with your corrections in mind.
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Is it common when referencing/copying that you find the drawing much worse the morning after? Like you don't see the mistakes the first time but later on when you look at the drawing from different angles? Or when you take a picture and look at it after?
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>>7375169
>start over completely instead of just moving something out of place like a normal artist does 1000x per drawing
Insane.
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How does it look? I don't draw often so be kind.
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>>7375145
>this cheek is fucked
>it's one line go fix it
>I don't think polishing things is a good idea
I love /asg/.

int telling beg to "just draw" is akin to extrovert telling introvert to "just be yourself"
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Draw when drunk to stop yourself from overanalyzing shit
Mileage is by far the most important thing
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>copying art you like before having done your 5000 boxes
Yikes, better not do that and risk permanently dooming yourself to /beg/dom.
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>>7373986
If it looks like shit you try to figure out why and try again and again until it doesn't
Anime girls have such simplistic anatomy that it really shouldn't be an issue
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>>7373167
1. Look at thing
2. Draw thing
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>>7370896
pyw


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