Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.07th Expansion archive:https://1drv.ms/u/s!Apo9jt_5n1kcbruVfFQLmtYesrY?e=q2ARE6Password: 07Old archive backup at:magnet: xt=urn:btih:311bb86e9f983a9393cca7d2190233c5b86a872c&dn=07th%20Expansion%20archive&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce07th Links:https://pastebin.com/XjcX45p6Umineko colored truths script:https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/418818-4chan-umineko-colored-truths/codePrevious thread: >>46582178
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>>46606217He's way too cool to be Shannon's brother
I am here to say --I love Hanyuu dearly and sweetly. She has been my waifu for several years now, basically since I first saw her on my screen. I want nothing more than to hold her warmly and make her feel loved.
Not even at bump limit yet you fucking piece of shit
>>46606308Shitka schizo lost.
>shitokocord
>ratkacord
The demon is freaking out because he didn't get his shitoko thread again?
>>46606287Bless you and your journey. Do you think of her instinctually as older or younger? To you is she more cute or more motherly or more of a serious immortal?
>>46606287Waifufags are based
>>46606451Somewhere in the middle of all three, if that makes sense. More cute in typical context, mature/motherly when a moment calls for more tender and heartfelt words or actions, and of course a more serious or threatening when defending who she cares about.
>>46606207George fucking a 5 year age gap younger girl is based
>>46606451As for age, I think of her as older. Although I don't really say anything about it, it upsets me a little when I see others call her dumb, because there's no way she is with so many years to her name. Silly is fair.Gou/Sotsu did several things that upset me, but one of the things I quite liked was that it made Hanyuu look more mature than she did in the Deen anime, giving her an obvious chest, a somewhat taller stature, and somr curvier hips. Gave her much more of a shorter woman appearance rather than a child. I was very weary about mentioning my love for her to others when the latter was most of what I could show if they asked, because it could easily give others the wrong impression. Not nearly as much of an issue anymore for me, thankfully.Although most of my exposure to Higurashi has been through the animes, I do own the VNs and plan to read them when I get the time. I've also read minagoroshi in the manga.Funny, when I was taking Japanese courses college, the name I went by in class was Riku. At the time I first chose that name to go by, I didn't know of the console arc showing Hanyuu having previously been married to a man by the same name.
so when did exactly america become the state of morals? I can't stand them taking my enjoyment of having an affair with a gal with an age difference. I hate the idea of not wanting the best for myself.
>>46606642Again, what does this have to do with 07th
>>46606642You are based angefag and I hope you get to experience having your cocked jerked by an age difference gf fat tits
>>46606700I'm trying to understand their mentality. I hope ryu mentions about the current state of states in his upcoming works.
>>46606581You really should read it. Deen only gets 50% of the context and loses a lot of the atmosphere. Also there's the alternate ending Miostukushi, would be interesting to read that from a Hanyuufag perspective I think.In Sotsu I feel like Hanyuu was the only character that was assassinated in "reverse" in a sense, they made her look really good, like she actually had natural character growth. When she argued against Eua/Aurora I felt like she was on the exact same wavelength as the audience. Just stop torturing the characters already!I'd like to also ask you about what you think of Hanyuu villain theory but maybe after you read the vn. As in, if she were not accidentally but intentionally obstructing Rika ability to solve the mystery would that change your perspective or not.
>>46606539>is basedbased on what?
>>46606642>when did exactly america become the state of morals?Prohibition eraProbably actually earlier in the great awakeningBut being taboo brings it's own enjoyment too maybe
>>46606767>I felt like she was on the exact same wavelength as the audience. I thought the same think about auaurora. watching her laughs looking at the kakeras made me laugh like a maniac.I would also describe her lolification the pinnacle of fiction.>>46606793like americans are trying to be morally right but in the end they are criminally criminal.
>>46606787On proper masculinity and non western faggotry
This might be one of the worst threads we've had this year
>>46606916It'll be alrightThe toiletoko fag got b& for porn spam
>>46606916let's cherish this thread until the end of our lives.
>>46606787
>>46606767Believe me I 100% plan to read it, I just don't know when exactly I'll get around to it. As of right now I'm more hooked on the No Game No Life light novels -- I'm on volume 5 right now -- mostly because the format of being an actual book is a lot easier for me to end up reading through the day while I'm at work during down time. As of right now I've got a blue collar job, so bringing a laptop or something with me for a VN isn't a good idea for multiple reasons. I'll probably pick it up when I get consistent opportunities to read it, or I might tackle it slower by reading a chapter or two in celebration of Watanagashi each year. My love for Hanyuu has been pretty steadfast in just about every depiction I've seen of her, be it her normal depiction, her historical self in Hairyuun, or even that one arc in the manga where she lost it -- pardon my lack of knowing what that chapter is called but I'm pretty sure it was a manga only chapter. While I certainly wouldn't enjoy a "Hanyuu is the villain" theory, I'll definitely respect it if it can be substantiated; even if it's true, it isn't like it's impossible to love villains either. Looking at Higurashi, Takano was one of the closest things we had to a villain in the original story, and she was still plenty lovable in her own right, and looking at other media we can see characters like Sosuke Aizen from Bleach who is easily one of if not THE most popular character despite being a series big-bad. My point is, I highly doubt anything can shake my passion for her, especially after so many years of emotional investment at this point. Knowing myself and my knack for detail in some cases, if I find that the theory is shakily substantiated, I could see myself defending her in an Ace Attorney or Umineko-like debate.
I love Shmion
>>46606217it is he
>>46606719Youre cringe as fuck, fb normie
Great fb larping as hanyuwhatever as well
Kill yourself shitokoratokoNIGger
>>46607900Maybe he wants redemption. Let him leave the yellow hell if he wants.
>>46607895>>46607900>>46607907>>46607921>>46607932>>>/out/
>>46607962
>>46606787On his delusions, like always.
>>46606396Stop posting this slut on the right attractimg normalwanker ai and 4dpd nigger together with cute and 2d pure loliwafu Rika
>>46607977Please give peace a chance
>>46607962Burn
>>46607975shannon is geoege'skanon is jessica'sbeatrice is battler'ssimple as
>>46607982Nyafu no
Yasu? For Battler.
Angperg really out did himself, his friendship with shitoko is cancer
Lying rats cant handle reality so they lash on others
>>46606334The fuck zoomerniggers problem
lion sexsex with lion
>>46608047>I trainJessica is so unlucky...
umineko needs a what I watched/what I expected/what I got chart.
>>46608018He got b& for ai porn spam
>>46608055I remember doing this in mspaint a billion years ago when I read it.
>>46608073ratka is still posting though?
>>46608080Ratka will survive the nuclear war
I got a jobNo more 16 hours a day of schizoposting on 4chanDespite everything, I still love Umineko
>>46608155don't care didn't ask
>>46608155I care, I asked
>>46608155Quit your job and goon with me
>>46608155Proud of you umisis
>>46608155glad to hear that anon!
>>46608155that's good news anon, unfortunately you're probably not one of the actually annoying schizos so losing you is a negative for the thread quality but i'm happy for you
>>46607975True, you'd have to be pretty deluded to think Shannon is a girl after reading the manga.
>>46606354I can't believe Ratka was the queen carrier of the plague in Hinamizawa
>>46608658yes, she's not just a girl, she's best girl
Scorpion Charm: https://pastebin.com/HdzXPPTF
Good, clean up fbnigger's mass
Im rereading Higu a bit (probably wont do all of it but who knows), was it always so much more well written than Umineko? I feel like K1's internal monologue is like 10x more interesting than the narration in Umi generally speaking
this one's still cute
really makes you think
>>46610909>even the tap has a bigger blade than kanon
>>46610947What about magical Kanon?
I'd rather we discuss magical Shannon
>>46611102she does have some rather formidable weapons of her own
>>46611105Built for motherhood
>>46610669K1's internal monologue is great because we're generally just as in the dark about what's going on as he is, especially in Onikakushi.He can be dense about certain things (mostly during Watanagashi) but he does try to reason things out when he can, assuming he's not full schizo at that point.
>>46608155fuck the jobfuck the society
>>46609717based theory
Love Ange
maybe battler has a different girl in mind who knows :^)
>>46611489>beato turns into kanon (forma de female) as a joke>battler's battler shoots straight upuh oh
>>46611505I want to rape and abuse this furniture
why am i listening to ____ ethereal _______ songs?
I love umineko's hanyuu
>>46611531cannot rape the willing
Who are the traitors in Ciconia? Pic. very much related.
>>46611641For instance?
There must be a reason why Ikuko's cleavage is never shown, right?
>>46611967only tohya's allowed to see those
>>46611992...those flat boobs
>>46612252that's a different character kanonfag, surely you of all people know this?
I love flat yasu
>>46611641As for me it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6biUF-Xa4I
>>46610669yesthe funniest part of umineko is when ryukishi decided to hastily rewrite episode 3 because he doesn't know how to write a fucking mystery and the narration goes from mediocre to absolute fucking dogshitthe second funniest part was when bt died around ep 6 and everything else went to complete dogshit too
>>46612526meds. take them now.
>>46612258>everyone who reminds me that yasu is a man is kanonfag
>>46612533no, the only one who posts that image is you, kanonfagconsider not being so predictably obvious if you don't want to get called out so much
>>46612536off yourself
THE SLUT of St. Lucia Academy taking dick up her pussy constantly every day, giving her teachers fellatio to get good grades, sits on classmates' laps and rubs against their hard dicks, gangbangs late at night, enough dick for a perfectly full condom belt cum flowing out endlessly of Rika's whore used pussy. Satoko trapped in the closet with a chain trying desperately to get out forced to watch as Rika fellates and handjobs her prettier classmates, pushed to the ground and fucked long and hard by tall dickgirl friend, Satoko crying, can't stop watching, can't stop rubbing her dick, Satoko restrained to a chair while Rika's ass and pussy is conquered by alpha futa dicks, despite being unable to masturbate Satoko still cums handsfree to the laughter of her captors, cock throbbing as she shoots ropes onto the ground far away from her beloved Rika's womb while her classmate cum flows endlessly out of her holes and onto her small perky chest and mouth. Rika-chama the perfect onahole giving naizuri to her classmate, compliments her small but cute dick while calling Satoko's giant penis engorged and gross and would probably cause her to bleed out and die, Satoko forced to lick her own cum off the ground in the studying prison while Rika receives a facial from three teachers at once haha, allowed to go outside and take walks while Satoko spends days and nights masturbating by herself in the detention cell because Rika-chama fucked even the school administration, everyone has seen the slut's cute pussy remains puffy and pristine even after having been fucked by the entire student body but nobody wants to look at loser Satoko's pfftttt, classmate pukes after she catches Satoko in a state of torpor violently masturbating after being mindfucked into becoming the perfect cuck, Satoko invited date by the slut Rika-chama finally convinced she'll be fucked when she's suddenly ghosted because very tall futa classmate took Rika out for a "walk" in the gardens of St. Lucia, Satoko finds them and promptly cums lol, no rest for both of them Satoko weeping into her pillow using both hands to stroke her fat veiny and disgusting cock while Rika has hot passionate sex with girls with beautiful penises in the other dorm hahaha, pathetic, Satoko has no roommate but Rika has seen more visitors than anyone else at St. Lucia not just because her pussy is amazing but because she is a charismatic and wonderful friend who also just happens to excel at sucking and fucking and milking copious amounts of futa dick
>>46612541cringe.
If every Yasu and Rika poster died these threads would increase in quality tenfold
>>46612560>>46612551die out
>>46612568Fuck off niggerlover
>>46612572I'm not trannymerican though
>>46612575Worse, you're a cuckold German
>>46612589Wrong again, пидорашка
>>46612551>>46612560Rikafag mindbroke you
>>46612623slava ukraini
>>46612645Stupid schizo you're talking to like 3 people at any given time that spit on shitokoWe're not all your discord cock buddy.
>>46612663>FLUSH
>>46612649it hurts me to see her everyday
>>46608155If that's good, then congratulations.If that's bad, then fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idniooAvNfw
>>46612691Why?
>>46612716because I'm aware of that she's not real
>>46612727Oh, I struggle with that too but she makes me happy nonetheless. Maybe when I die I'll get meet her
>>46612727She's in your heart, that matters more
>>46612727He doesn't know...
>>46611281The world knew a fertile Yasu would be unstoppable, which is why it did all it could to prevent this fragment.
should I jerk off to maria, or go to sleep?
>>46613006is the answer not already obvious to you?
>>46613006Jerk off and post your sweaty cock after you cum
er maybe don't do that part
It seethes
>>46612526you're STILL seething about umineko? wtf
keiichibros...
>>46614112he can't catch a break
>>46612551>>46612645>>46613727What made it to post this?
Amugshit still relevant
>>46610669Umineko just doubles down on his annoying habit of repeating the same sentence 40 times rephrased different ways and shoving the theme in your face, other than that it's pretty much the same, you're just suffering from Battler being annoying and Umineko being long. But a lot more is gained in general in Higurashi by having different character POVs, because the entire story is built around a bunch of schizophrenics you really get to enjoy jumping around in their heads compared to the few times you do in Umineko. Altogether I like Umineko's writing better (at least for what it is) but Ryukishi's character writing is way better suited for a story like Higurashi with a smaller scale. He's a god at getting you into a character's head but the whole point of Umineko is getting into the head of a character you can't even identify while being stuck in the head of someone who's more clueless than you are, so the best part of his writing gets overblown by the worst. Also Onikakushi just blows Legend out of the water as a part 1 in general, the start of Umineko is the most boring shit ever the first time you read it until you get to the thick of the family conflict while Higurashi at least has cute girls fucking around at school where the day-by-day shenanigans write themselves.
>>46615111wish I were here
>>46616158
>>46605019 The same goes for the adults too. Rosa states that Krauss kept beating her when she was still young.I can definitely see her siblings bullying her despite their age gap but the image of a full-grown 25-year-old boxer beating the shit out of 10-year-old girl is probably not what Ryukishi was going for.
>>46616472wish me luck on exams enje-chan :3
>>46612715akasaka the best character along with Rika
>>46616900Make sure to study hard!!
>>46614934Eh, the start of Onikakushi isn't terribly interesting neither.
>>46617554It's just shorter. Also the characters are more likeable, you really have to let the Ushiromiyas grow on you because they are all shitty people and you can tell from the second you meet them, and most of the fun characters don't show up for like 50 more hours of reading
>>46618145>Also the characters are more likeableMore likeable I guess yeah, but I was really invested in most of the Ushiromiya's early on. The moment where Krauss flips the script on his siblings for example really got me hooked on EP1. There's so much bad blood and angst between so many of them and it really makes you wonder how and why they ended up with all these fucked up relationships. Like yeah, you can tell they're shitty people, but you can also tell they're not just shitty for the sake of being shitty. There's so much dialogue that subtly hints towards why they all act towards each other the way they do and regrets they might have and I though it did a really good job at making them feel natural and making the reader curious.
>>46610669>>46614934Umineko is written vastly better than Higurashi, and Onikakushi is not a shade on Legend. Within the first few hours, Umineko evokes a dozen characters and their relationships in more detail than the smaller cast of Higurashi and uses the skill he gained in depicting the creeping paranoia of Onikakushi in the mind of a single character to much grander effect in the steadily revealed corruption and decadence of an entire family. You can practically smell the sickly musk of old furniture, smoke, and alcohol during the adults' financial conversation, which is interpolated beautifully with the cousins discussing the legend of the family to initiate the reader into the mysteries of the story. It's both more focused and more expansive than Onikakushi.
>>46618295I didnt mean "well written" in the sense of the plot or themes. I meant in the sense of the words that were on the screen were more gooder.Keiichi's brain seeems richer than Battler's and the scenes feel a lot more descriptive. And by the way, I quite liked Legend. I didnt think it was "boring" and yes it had a good atmosphere (I also felt like Ep7 has a very cool vibe going on and I really enjoyed it).But Higu feels like it has a lot more fun or interesting things happening in the words themselves. I think that would be the prose.
>>46619111marry and shower with love and care autist on the right
>>46619574but what about the autist on the left?
>>46618976is it her digital avatar or does she really always have crumbs in her hair?
>>46619604Autist on the left gets best girl, that's already more than anyone could ask for
>>46619663Battler will NOT survive this.
>mother abandons you forever to go to the zoo
>>46619811this is easily the worst page in the entire manga. Seriously? a fucking zoo? ZOO? Why not "the world" or somthing like that, something big, meaningful? Zoo is so fucking retarded and I am seething, this page is ruined
like seriously, she just had a realization that she was like an animal locked in the cage for Kinzo, and now what she wants to see is... animals locked in a cage?
>>46618432Umineko's dialogue is unrivaled but the rest is kind of uninteresting because Battler is a retard and has a boring inner monologue
>>46619865Idk I like it. It's such a mundane thing you'd expect most people to have seen that it makes it that much more tragic that she had to die for it.
>>46619916it's like poetry anon, it rhymes
>>46619916you know what they say... you only need to bully a person for a day and then they become a bully forever
>>46619811i like how there's no sign of beatrice currently or recently being pregnant during this whole flashback
>>46619943Some characters do have very good dialogue. Like basically any time Beato in on screen is very fun. But a lot of them are kinda bland or have only like 1 gimmick is their entire character. Like Kumasawa or Hideyoshi what do they even do? But even more relevant ones like George are bland as fuck, and the only development he gets is like 1 scene where he goes "huurr im an incel" and then doesnt even have any screentime past that. Rudolf and Kyrie also didnt get that much development even though theyre quite important. Especially Kyrie it doesnt even make sense that she founds out about Battler and then its all the sameUmi just has way too big of a cast to do justice to all the characters and itd have to be EVEN LONGER!!! Or maybe condense things a little, but probably just be longer Oh and Lion too, (s)he had an episode but its like Will ended up getting more attention than Lion in it. Anyway thats all to say that Higu characters are more interesting and fun straight away, while in Umi theres more variance and some just are always shit
>>46620132It also helps in Higurashi that focus on the characters is somewhat staggered. The first ep focuses more on Keichii, Rena and Mion, the second on Mion and Shion, third on Satoko, fourth on Rika, with each one tying that focus into the plot. And other aspects of Hinamizawa are revealed over time. With Umineko, almost everything is dumped into the audience's lap at the start. Which is necessitated by the much smaller setting, sure, but it could have at least focused on characters in turn in each episode after the first... instead it just keeps piling on fantasy characters, and what focus and exploration some characters get is, as you said, shallow and lacking. Meanwhile Maria and Rosa take over both eps 2 and 4 to beat us over the head with how complex their relationship is.
>>46620128This line is in the 7 manga at least. There's no way she could have still been pregnant. She was either so sheltered that she barely understood what a baby was, or knowingly left her kid behind.
>>46620132i think the higurashi cast are more fun than the umineko (as you might expect for a group of lively kids versus wrinkled old adults who worry about money) but i would argue that there's an impressive amount of attention to detail paid to the ushiromiya family dynamics which can make their scenes very rewarding
Pregnant Beatrice is good, but imagine pregnant Enje...
>>46620391Both pregnant with Black babies...
Sperg...You are embarassing yourself. Again.
Yup. A certified discord shartroon moment
>>46619898Headpat this girl
This lifelike Shannon body pillow (now breathes!) could be yours for just 4,000,000 payments of 5000 yen.
>>46621190>hey these aren't the massive milkers i was promised what the fuck
Why is Lion so gay if he grew up with a functioning penis?
>>46621329shannon can't imagine what it's like to be a real man
>>46619111https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF96mzWzdPc
>>46622102K-Kino...
>>46621343>>46621329sametrans
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>>46622915Cuteness overdose
1: Do you think this Battler frog edit is funny?2: Where is the Coward_way.jpg poster this time?
Goddamn she's trying to seduce me
Realistically speaking, what is the worst thing Rosa could do with Maria to get some money?
>>46624382letting her boyfriends have a taste of the forbidden fruit is the big one
>>46624413women are sexier than children
>>46625611do i disagree with you? nodoes that make maria any less sexo? also no
>>46624413cursed hand
Umispammer is a tranny
we know you are, sperg.
>>46625611Who's more fucked up, Trick Ange or Erika?
i am sorry for posting this but Rika is really cute. is this the original designer for deen? his art is oddly looks similar to the original designer
>>46623726Why did no one reply to either of the 2 questions after several hours?
>>46623726>Do you think this Battler frog edit is funny?yes>Where is the Coward_way.jpg poster this time?just wait for him
>>46626135trick ange has erika as a tulpa so she's automatically more fucked up just because she's both at once
>>46626323>>46623726>>46626356>>46626339>uminiggers started posting frog shit in /jp/nuke this shithole, mods
>uminiggers were the try hard newniggers all along with their zoomer twitch frog shit
>>46626253Nope, just a fan artist. Apparently only got into Higurashi last year too when the anime got streamed for free.
>>46626390>twitch
>>46626481>frog projection
>>46620216Theres also the way in which things are structured in the first couple episodes where, as the twilights are carried out, some characters are left alive until the end and usually you get to know them more. Like you get to know Natsuhi, Rosa and Eva better in the first couple episodes. When reading it the first time I was kind of hoping that dynamic would keep playing out but obviously that shit goes off the rails later. I was kinda disappointed that Ep6 and 7 never got fully "finished" on the island. And I guess... maybe? You can take Ep7's Teaparty as giving you more of Rudolf and Kyrie but its very cruel. Thinking about it its kind of interesting how much focus Natsuhi got I mean she had Ep1 where she was a big star, Ep4 where uh she dies but its shown how important she is to Krauss and how actually she's the one thats less dumb of the 2, and Ep5 where she's bullied You know it would have been fun, for example, to have in Ep7 Shannon is the one who "takes over" as a character who takes decisions and tries to expose the culprit. It would have mirrored the way that Beato "revives" if you also had Shannon "remember" how she likes mystery novels a lot and is actually very smart. And then Shannon and Battler together expose Erika and everyone explodes happilyThough it would have been a problem given the solution to the closed room but... idk you can probably write your way out of it somehow.
>>46626510I expect the earlier versions of ep 3 and on would have been more similar to 1-2, but Ryukishi just had to shitcan and rewrite everything because he couldn't figure out how to get his ideas across to his audience.Natsuhi's importance is interesting as well. In the original ep 1-3 OP she's given a big focus, along with a clock and a beating heart... sure, her hiding Kinzo's death is a big factor in the mystery, but it's kind of unconnected to the Beatrice identity stuff, which is what the heart is usually associated with. I wonder what was up with that.>Though it would have been a problem given the solution to the closed room but... idk you can probably write your way out of it somehow.you know how i'd write my way out of it...
>>46626612You know, that reminds me of a funny solution I had before it was shown how Battler escaped the room was something like. "While hiding in the closet, Battler spontaneously figured out the answer to the epitaph and where all the gold is hidden, therefore now he is the head of the family and as such he's now Kinzo and not Battler, therefore Battler isnt in the room" Also if Battler simply... Doesn't get out of the room and he IS killed, then that'd give a motive for Yasu to expose Erika together with the rest of the family
>>46626959Rika after serving old men
>>46626964calm down
>>46626381>goes on 4ddit>complains about 4ddit frogs
>>46627055why shitcord attention whore spamming umishit and shitoko shit? fuckign newnigger cunt
>>46627063...said the 2022 /a/ tourist
>>46627066nice assumption, autistic fucking shitcorder attention whore who enjoys twitch shit and a /pol/ shitter who shits himself everyday. neck yourself
>>46627085mucho texto
>>46627094i don't understand your extinguido language sorry
>>46626640He does need to get out of the room to place the letter... or someone does anyway. The narrative acts like rescuing Battler is necessary but it kind of isn't.
>>46626964That ojisan? Me.
New Mei stuff:Event:https://files.catbox.moe/5rhjzw.txtTakano:https://files.catbox.moe/3qx12s.txtAkasaka:https://files.catbox.moe/ru7gp1.txt
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>>46627542I'm not sure why, but suddenly Takano did nothing wrong.
>>46627530Cute young JK
>>46626356"You feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage!"
>>46627530I wonder if the stuff about two best friends becoming bitter enemies in high school is referencing some actual show (aside from Sotsu, obviously)? The stuff about a hot blooded teacher and a sequel 10 years later obviously had nothing to do with Gou/Sotsu.Also, this story although seemingly a random AU, basically confirms my theory about Kazuho,>Takano: That's your special skill, right? ... It's okay, I'll explain it carefully doesn't matter how many times you pretend to forget.>Kazuho: …special skill…?>Takano: The way you erase yours memories and pretend you're harmless. In fact, thanks to that, you were able to get close to Miyuki Akasaka, who builds a wall to protect herself from other people, so you're pretty good, right?It's presented as the "setting" of this story, but it's basically spelling out what's going on for real. This story itself points out Kazuho can only remember her own backstory in rough lines (She went to St.Lucia, but she can't remember anything specific about living there when she tries).She IS the villain, but not really the Kazuho we see. "Kazuho" is more like a "character" created by the villain to infiltrate the others, which is why she can only remember her past in rough lines, her "past" is a lie (Kimiyoshi who lived in St.Lucia's dorm alone, suddenly receives message from Kiichiro in 93, etc. It's all a lie).It's like if Shannon and Kanon were actual separate personalities, and were unaware of that, rather than it just being Yasu pretending.
>>46628690Sh-Shannon-chan, slow down...
>>46630235Why does Battler never call her Shannon-chan, or Sayo anyway? Would be so much better. Him still calling her Beato after remembering everything feels... fake and wrong
>>46631007Why isnt all of Umineko just 1000 hours of Yasu's erotic fanfiction?
>>46631234October 6 was a huge cultural loss for Japan. Dozens, if not hundreds of sadomasochistic ero-guro works were lost in that explosion...
>>46631007blame ryukishi for deciding upholding the mystery (which he later decided to spoil anyway) was more important than cute character interactions
>>46632655the 'mystery' was already way too obvious by ep6 to still keep it up. We were robbed of true love kino
>>46626510While we are at it, was Eva always meant to survive? We know that Black Battler and Virgilius were the original antagonists of ep 3 until Ryukishi scrapped that plot line and replaced them with Evatrice.
>>46632779He could have just called Beato "Yasu"
Ciconia phase 2?I was without internet for a week.
>>46632982Her head could be smaller.
>>46633201don't forget to vaxx your rodents pets so that they don't get rabbies ratkabros!
>>46633201What a good friend. Never reach your neck out too far. Hanyuu taught her well.
>>46633287it releases the day solve phase 1
>>46634139*the day WE solve phase 1those LATO tits are affecting my grammar
Can Ryukishi even find Brazil and Mexico on a map?
>>46634236>wiki summariesno!!!
>>46612551Omg... A rikatard! Kek
Quis ut Deus?
>>46621329she is a woman
>>46635164unknown concept for usa
>>46632981That's something I wonder about too. On the one hand, how awkwardly constructed ep 3 is makes me want to think the whole concept was hastily thrown together when Land was scrapped... on the other hand, Eva being a survivor or otherwise important and that plot point needing to be carried over despite the episode being completely reworked could itself explain that.The one thing I *am* sure of is that Rosa's little Beatrice cliff story did not exist when episode 2 was being written.Speaking of Virgilius, right after ep 3 was released there was a collection of short stories Ryu put out, including a poem from Bernkastel that's basically Erika's backstory. So, like, did Virgilius originally have Erika's story about being paranoid about being cheated on, or what?
Kyute! Omochikaerii~!
>>46634706kill yourself fucking idiot
Is Ciconia worth reading
>>46636361100%
>>4663636125%
>>4663636169%
>>46636004>nopanslut rodent
I can't believe I just read some random guy's entire bitching about umineko since I'm outside and I have nothing else good to do.
autistic shitcordratoko
>>46636585link it here i want to read it too
Why does Toujirou bother to get the COU to suspend their air defense over the Glass Sea when they would be no match for the Warcats anyway?
>>46636542Rikafag mindbroke you
>>46636795it's still best to keep them off the playing field if Toujirou wants a gauntlet knight duel where Miyao can kill Lingji, especially for an AOU and COU conflict
>>46636361are you okay with reading the first quarter of a story that will probably never get finished?
>>46636585And to think, you could have come here and listened to people bitching about Umineko for free!
Personalities that can "die" and be "resurrected" operate on magical thinking logic and are dishonest. And don't get me started on Yasu having DID -- what, her personalities just happen to die in such a manner that they resemble a singularly focused individual switching costumes? This is some Obi-Wan "From a certain point of view" bullshit.
>>46634236>And don't get me started on Yasu having DID -- what, her personalities just happen to die in such a manner that they resemble a singularly focused individual switching costumes?Yasu doesn't have DID. She just allowed in her games her disguises/imaginary friends to count as people. And then the forgeries and meta followed suit. Or rather, R07 did all that, I guess.
>>46637344This is entirely correct, but the Uminerds don't like to hear it.>>46637423> uh ACKSHPHUally-Case in point.
>>46637307If its good, yeah.
mion
>>46637698here she is
kanon
>>46637770Disappeared
>>46637344>>46637444Don’t you get it you tard. Umineko’s ending is not canon, it was just an interpretation of the events. If it was the actual truth, then Erika’s and Bernkastel’s blue truths would have killed all of them. Rosa is the actual killer and is the bastard child.
>>46637862>Rosa is the actual killer and is the bastard child.I was about to post metashit.png until I read this. Nevermind, you're based
>>46636361>>46637522I don't think it's as good as its predecessors (it isn't finished though so I can't compare them as a whole) but it is definitely something fresh and it did get a couple tears out of me. It's worth reading but only if you're okay with getting blueballed by only having a fraction of the full story.
>>46631007Isn't the nickname "Beato" literally just a combination of the names "Beatrice" and "Sayo"?
>>46638356Its just Be a to ri che shortened
>>46614802Gorgeous rodent goddess
>>46635599>The one thing I *am* sure of is that Rosa's little Beatrice cliff story did not exist when episode 2 was being written.Why?
I want Rika juice in my face
need an ange version of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Msd4-eMZyA
>>46639802Nipah k-kino...
If Rena and Mion were innocent during the first arc. Why the hell did Rena stalk K1 and listened to his entire conversation with Ooishi in secret and never mentioned it again? Could it be, that was the logic error that Umineko mentioned? That Rena and Mion were actually in on some big conspiracy? Hinamizawa syndrome was not meant to be a thing in the start. That's a bullshit explanation later retconned by the gamemaster. There was an actual Oyashiro-sama alternate explanation. Someone agree with me.
>>46639863>Why the hell did Rena stalk K1 and listened to his entire conversation with Ooishi in secretShe probably overheard some of it by accident but it's unlikely she intentionally listened in on everything with malicious intent, that's something Keiichi imagined. More likely she just came over, realized he was having a long phone call and left. I like your schizo theory though
>>46639863I agree
>>46626612Don't forget Natsuhi was originally meant to have an affair with Gohda, which goes completely against the Ushiromiya heart stuff she gets later on. She probably was meant to be a much darker character originally.
>>46637444I wasn't even defending Umi. Heck, I insulted it in that message. But if you think Yasu has DID I guess you have no reading comprehension anyway.
>>46639863The Logic Error was just Hanyuu not knowing what caused Rika's death and how to avoid it. Her not knowing the goal is the same as the board having no goal, making it a broken game, a Logic Error, according to what Lambda says.
>>46639863Also, I think Rena was just freaking out too (see Tatarigoroshi when she goes in her Oyashirosama rant for example), she just wasn't meant to cause harm to Keiichi, but she wasn't in a good state of mind once Keiichi himself was breaking down, thus following him around, overhearing his call and standing in the rain.
>>46640628Theres logic error in your tranny core shithole, umirat
>>46639863Rena is a well-intentioned schizo
Im imagining a VN similar to Higurashi, but its set in the Americas before the arrival of the Europeans, and it explores the various customs and legends from across different cultures. Theres probably some connecting thread (like maybe the MC is the same "soul" or is related in some way, or maybe its just their role in the village or something (a kid, maybe a bit of an outcast) that ties the stories together. Theres definitely some suffering and the MC is the victim of human sacrifices and the like.then the "answers" arcs is basically when the Euros come and they fuck them all up and then they convert everyone and thats how the suffering ends. The soul of the MC finally ascends to heaven instead of hanging around in these cursed civilizations and The Message is basically that only G-d can save youI will include Dlanor as a character that appears
>>46606207New thread>>46639891>>46639891>>46639891
>>46640595bruh i was joking. i do not think yasu has DID at all man.
