Tactical gear thread.Post gear, discuss gear.Old: >>61400619
>>61487115Delete this and someone make a non troon thread.
>>61487290You took the words out of my mouth
>>61487290Funny images in OP are a gear queer tradition, anon
>>61487405whos laughing?
Guys I need to ask a question about NVA camo.
>>61487115Man that gear looks messy and pointless af
>>61487405Funny how? Funny like a clown?
>>61487115Wapanese airsofters are something else.
>>61487405Trannies aren't funny though. It's never nice to laugh at the mentally ill.
>>61487117>>61487125>>61487132>>61487141>>61487148>>61487170>>61487174stop posting this garbage
>>61488185You laugh at the freakshow
From left to rightMultitool>triple pistol pistol taco for my EDC light> rifle taco>dump pouch>handgun>knifeIs my belt done? IFAK goes in the spiritus fanny sack
>>61488629bro just post a picture, it sounds fucking retarded.
>>61488649Cant its not with me
>>61488674what are you using it for. what make and model is the belt, the holster, the knife, etc HSGI tacos are inferior to esstac pouches.running triple pistol in front of a rifle is weird.
>>61488689Playing at the range, larpingAWS SMU, an old safariland I cut down for a red dot, gerber strongarmI know kywis are better I'm only using the tacos since I don't want to build another belt for my akTomorrow I'll swap spots on the mags
>>61488751if you get a 7.62 kywi it fits AR mags and AK mags and 308 mags
>>61488758Well the taco is out of the refund window and I prefer esstac so huh whoops
>>61488751>>61488775oh well tacos are fine. The known issue they have is that if your mags are damaged or worn out that rounds can slide forward and catch on the pouch as you try to draw the mag. AK mags are especially prone to this. you end up with a round thats pointing straight out of the top of the mag you have to remove before you can put the mag in the gun. This is what my belt has looked liked for the last year and a half. I own an AK and a battle rifle but my main fighting kit doesn't need to accommodate funkopop guns.
>>61488782I love kywis I just didn't want to start a new beltWhat's that thing between the ifak and holster?
>>61488858m67 frag dummy in a ACS pouch. I modified it so that i could put a safariland QLS plate on the back. I often switch between a knife and a water bottle holster all using the QLS.
>>61489010Guess I'll spend tomorrow moving things aroundI hate the new kywis and their thin loopsGetting them on my belt was a hassle
>>61489068use velcro one wrap. go around the whole belt then stuff the tail into the webbing on the back of the kywi
>>61489010>green gear>grenadeAre you Israeli?
>>61488496> t. agilite rep.
>>61489334lmao the ACS pouch is jew shit too. I'm an American of Irish and German descent and i'm an antisemite. >>61489336it's not always the jews bro. I just don't like infographics made by retards who don't actually own gear. I've been posting here for almost 20 years and the state of these threads is abysmal.
>>61489365> I just don't like infographics made by retards who don't actually own gear.How would you suggest they be modified? Or are you just a faggot who complains like a woman?With the green gear, grenade, and seething over the infographics (don't forget to dilate) I'm still pretty sure you're an Agilite rep.
>>61489365Why do you have a M67 fragmentation grenade if you're not military? Why do you have a helicopter retention lanyard if you don't have a helicopter?
>>61489415I would suggest making it better. I have never owned anything made by agilite. I'm not the one who is seething duder. Are you so defensive because you made them?>>61489504because it's fun
>>61489522>I would suggest making it betterAnd how would you do that, retard-kun?
>>61489551could you not tell i was being flippant?
>>61489560I can tell you complain like a little bitch. I can tell that you are incapable of making any contribution. I love how the infographics make complete faggots and shills reveal themselves.
>>61487713Kek>>61488487Yeah I guess my question is for comfort/features, is the ALICE rig far superior or is it the same roughly? I would use it for short period of time on the flat range, not hiking or anything so I don't really care about the superiority of nylon over cotton.I love the look of the M1956 pouches, but the belt and suspenders look virtually identical to the ALICE to my eyes so I don't care either way.
>>61489615lmao goodnight autist
>>61489630so personally I prefer the m1956 H suspenders to the ALICE Y suspenders. A complete alice gear set is going to be significantly cheaper for you to get than m1956. The m1956 also does not play will with anything but battle rifles. If you are trying to run an AR with 30 round mags you should get alice gear. You can always slap a m1956 h harness on an alice belt set up. I also suggest getting the buttpack and running the harness off of that instead of directly from the belt in the back. It makes the whole thing a lot more comfortable. You can get after market belt pads or make them with a foam sleeping mat. That will make the belt less ass to wear for long periods of time. If you have any other questions ask them before i go to bed. I own literally dozens of web gear sets spanning the development of these systems.>>61489615I'm the only one answering gear related questions in this thread.
>>61489652Thanks for the insight, that is literally the kind of stuff I would like to know!I live in yurop and there are several sites here selling modern repros. It seems original gear is either in shit shape or more expensive because of reenacting.So I would probably go for H suspenders + buttpack, and a couple of repro 56 ammo pouches for the look and get any other items in ALICE. Does it make sense or am I off base?
>>61489673what gun are you trying to use it with?
>>61489679AR and AK short term, maybe a G3 in the future which is why I don't hate the idea of a dedicated Battle rifle rig
>>61489682okay so like none of those mags are going to fit in a m1956 mag pouch. its too short to hold the mags. go on youtube and watch videos on the channel "web gear review"
>>61489722Thanks, will do!
>>61489884if you get 20 round short m16a1 mags for your airsoft gun you could do it. but you wont be able to do it with the ak or the g3
>>61489522the fucking grenade though? is it a deactivated paperweight or do you have a piece of live military ordnance chilling in your house 24/7
>>61487290>>61488457can you please move on to a new boogeyman already?
>>61490443It's literally in the OP.
>>61490443Stop trying to go into children's bathrooms and the next boogeyman will be moved onto.
>>61490443>troons aren't realWhat?
Anyone have any info/experience with Helikon-Tex' DuraCanvas? Im looking for a durable pair of pants, preferably lightweight, and while I was looking for some NyCo Ripstop pants I came across their DuraCanvas pants, but not info about it.
>>61491021The helikon-tex canvas are really just clones of the similar fjallraven pants which is to say they are okay. If you want a ripstop material you should not go canvas, when canvas rips it rips nicely and doesnt compare to modern ripstop materials. Main advantages of canvas pants are durability compared to straight cotton pants from abrasion and general wear. Also waxxing a nice way pre-gortex membranes to not have wet ass pants all the time. All that aside>DurableYeah id consider canvas durable. Especially if you are sliding over rocks and shit a lot. If dealing with heaps of debris and tiny sharp pieces of metal it will tear up. The stretch materials also tend to die before canvas on most of these pants. Fjallraven Kebs have stretch material in the crotch area and everytime im going over a fence I feel like its going to snag and totally blow it away, its snagged a couple times and pilled up fast.>LightweightProbably not the first thing that comes to mind with canvas. Its not overly heavy per say but you will for sure want the stretch material heavy ones to cut as much canvas as possible.
>>61489077I got bitchy because the thin loops had a slight wobble compared to old thick loops
Does multicam tropic suck? I've ready several people say its too dark even in tropical environments.
>>61491409Its based
>crye g4's been out of stock for years any other comparable lightish weight pants with external knee caps?
>>61491544Crye G3...
>>61491610>just buy the heavier, hotter pants bro I'm asking other adults who might know the answer to my question, but I can see how you got confused
>>61491627Well since you clearly have a stick up your ass, then I wish you best of luck in finding pants that will fit you :^)
>>61491655>i'm not mad bro! u!>fat!As I said before, you need to be 18 or older to post here
>>61491959Thanks for helping bump the thread kid.
>>61488629throw an ifak on the belt too nicer to train with in the summer and shooting>>61489365looking nording as fuck prussian germanic bro
>>61492260>doubling down>doesn't know how to sage a post please reread >>61491959
>>61492365Global rule 7 newfag. This explains why you were quick to call me a kid.
>>61492439reread >>61491959
Last thread I asked about thermals and anti-thermal camo, if you have any more recommendations I'd like to hear them.Another piece of equipment I've taken an interest in is GSR (ground surveillance radar). How useful is it and where can I get one? >inb4 only mil and leo can has GSR
>>61492277Fanny ifaks make more sense because I can unbuckle it and I have a weird waistline
>>61492277>$1000 worth of pouches on a $15 FLC
>>61492515Nobody here knows anything but buy they cryes, complain about pouches and charge they low speed MANET>More thermalAlright you asked:Yesterday I mentioned standoff and insulation and how most people dont bother beyond that. Here is the beyond that:https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/04cd39b4-8511-4c75-bb71-7a31755cd422/contentTldr: Low emissivity metal doped fabrics further complicate thermal detection. This is how most advanced counter thermal things work. >GSRGSR hasnt been getting the love it should, most of the systems in inventory are old and designed for static site employment. The older units tend to pickup a healthy amount of false positives from rain, animals and the like. It was clutch in the older days if you had limited manpower to secure a site with no perimeter. Friend of mine used it back in panama way back when as the jungle went right up to the fenceline and you cant be having that so they peppered the perimeter with GSR and would vector guys onto GSR trips.Good thing about GSR is that it is really easy to detect and avoid. There are only a few places with GSR CONUS and you really dont want to be poking your head around there.>LEO>GSRI mean if you count static site security around nuclear plants and shit, sure but your avg department has no GSR lol.GSR has mostly been supplanted by more flexible solutions like computer vision aided thermals and robo dogs>Where can I get oneComplete waste of time and money
>>61489967it's a dummy, dude even said
>>61491627The answer to your dumb question is g3s because the difference isnt in weight. You wont notice the difference in hot weather. Theyre both hot. Unless you get g4s specifically made for hot weather. Good luck with that.
>>61492537fair enough. I ran fanny packs for a while a solid choice, only downside is dealing with the extra straps.>>61492538had the pouches already just cooked for the joy of it turned out being something I genuinely like
I have an EXFIL LTP and the screws toward the back wont engage when putting on the Magpul rails that Team Wendy sends. Screws towards the front engage, however. The threading must be too low/screw is too short. Anyone know why this would happen?
>>61492761Stop posting. This setup sucks and you suck for posting it every thread.
>>61493461Every gun that anon puts together is an abortion, it's almost as if he does it on purpose
>>61492761Keep posting. This setup fucks and you are based for posting it every thread
Every camo I want is out of stock or just plain too hard to find and it hurts. Seems like pencott greenzone dropped off the face of the planet.
>>61493461Until you choose to not shit up this thread and post gear, it will be uploaded at every opportunity>>61493569I have traditional rifles but cloners/clone shit is boring. I'd rather post experimental stuff that might fill a niche for somebody else. If there weren't doubters I'd be worried>>61493622checked and good day sir
is milsurp a good gift type?a guy I know has a birthday party tomorrow and his gf said he needed a pile jacket for when they go walking on trails in the mountains, so I was with some other ppl in a gift group and there were some salewa or other new ones from mountain brands but they were expensive, so I proposed an ecwcs lvl3 jacket in green, pretty warm and at a decent price.I think it's a cool gift but some might scoff at it because it's "muh used clothes", what do you guys think
>>61493705I like phantomleaf. I doubt it will catch on tho
>>61493819The only store in the US that has some is sold out of every pants size that isn't for the morbidly obese. I wanted to get a shirt and pants set of the WASP.II.Z3A since it looks like it would work great in my area.
>>61493801I think you go to the outlet section of beyond clothing and buy him a new jacket for little money that doesnt look larpmaxxed>>61493705>The airsoft camo has vanishedDamn everyone taking a loss here.
>>61493833Yeah idk what happened with them. Thoughts on phantomleaf?
>>61493832I bought a set of the green from hessian antique, then i splurged on a cape in the 'desert' color which is basically just 'ohio winter' color. The cape came from some german store
What lens material is better for ballistic eyewear, polycarbonate or Trivex, in terms of safety performance?
>>61493833cant do so because I'm not in the USanyway a lvl3 jacket doesnt look that larpmaxed aside from the velcroalready bought it just wanted to know what other ppl think, anyway the other guys didnt even want to spend 20 euros each so everything was too expensive
Tac radio - new availability. Distro by reticulate micro in the US. >>61493948
>>61493903>already bought it just wanted to know what other ppl thinkjfc anon. every fucking time
>>61493961>Ukranian ISM bullshitHow about no?
>>61493971buy first ask later, that's the basics dudeanyway I think thats a cool gift and will do the job
>>61493989>>61493961explainis that encrypted comms for civilians that usually wouldn't be available?why is A2 saying big NO?
>>61494057You can buy encrypted comms right now, dozens of AES256 available radios out there.This thing attempts to dodge EW by using FHSS in the 915 ISM band. It has shit tier range because its just using off the shelf 915mhz radio stacks in a shitty 3d printed enclosure. No external swappable battery, no channel select and a weak antenna mounting area. All soldered by hand by hohols with the finest chinese soldering gear.Its a big attempt at making it look like a real product. Some elaborate scheme to steal more of my tax dollars and dodge the draft.
>>61494101kidk I only have base knowledge of radios, started studying it recently so I cant have much of an opinion on it, are the encrypted ones surp from the army or actual commercial stuff for civilians? is it a dumbed down/"backdoored" encryption so it can be tapped in by law enforcement or serious stuff?
>>61494101>TYT MD-UV390 Plusstill approved?
>>61494200Civilian available stuff, mostly in the DMR market will do AES256.>Is the crypto backdoored?Thats the cool thing about closed source software, you just get to kinda guess and hope..Most DMRs have insecurely implemented AES256 which means its weaker than it should be but its still going to be beyond someone with a truck full of computers to crunch your data. Who the fuck knows how well the ukranians did their AES256 on the blackbox of "trust me bro" implemented by the finest "engineers"You should assume comms are burned and operate correctly accordingly, its a much safer view than assuming your crypto works. Only put out codewords on net, no identifying information, roll frequencies, roll codewords/names to avoid setting patterns and dont transmit any information with a long lifespan across the net.Real pro of crypto on DMR is that it works like a DCS code on your frequency and basically locks it into only really be useful by your immediate team of DMR users. Anyone else on that frequency is going to get dialup modem noises and their cries of "please switch frequencies" wont fire up your radios speaker at all. Just using it as a way to reject other people and squat a frequency basically.>>61494237Decent choice, read above.
>>61494249>beyond someone with a truck full of computers to crunch your data.Beyond someone without a truck****
>>61493708I've posted my gear plenty, but it doesn't need to be posted every fucking thread like an autist. You've all seen my plate carrier like a dozen times at this point.
>>61494057>usually wouldn't be availableNo, it's just new international distribution of a very cheap item that's good for testbench purposes.>why is A2 saying big NO?Because it's a bargain bin product that you shouldn't trust as a radio.>>61494249>backdoored, closed sourceThey're using quantropi's QEEP.https://www.quantropi.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Q_QEEP_BenchmarkTestingReport.pdfI fully expect PQC to be like the scandals with compomised curves, but magnified 100-fold because of the greater difficulty of independent testing.
>>61489631Goodnight money changer.
New gun belt coming nicely, except that I should’ve gone up a size or two on the actual belt part, but that should be an easy exchange. Currently in-between sidearms but once I get it all put together it should be a beaut. Will probably adjust the knife to be at more of an angle, and throw on a TQ or two.
>>61491409No, but sort of. Tropic is fantastic for boreal forests, but it does get way too dark when wet; which you will always be in tropical heat and humidity. So yeah, shit for the environment its name suggests, but g2g for everything else.
>>61489897>if you get 20 round short m16a1 mags for your airsoft gun you could do it. but you wont be able to do it with the ak or the g3>airsoftNow that's just plain rude, Anon. Of course going for an M56 look, the 20 rounders are mandatory.
What would be an effective camo pattern for an area like this?
>>61498441Manatee grey top, multicam tropic bottoms
>>61498441anything green. hell, straight OD/ranger green would be fine.
>>61498441M05, woodland anything really
>>61493705if you really want something you can find custom gear tailors to make literally Anytingsome dude makes tactical track suits with knee inserts and everything for fucks sake
>>61499034The problem with those camos he wants is that the fabric simply does not exist>t. looked into pencott once
>>61498441Dyed green UCP
>>61499372does the dye cause it to glow under IR?
>>61499378Most don't.
>>61492692>Complete waste of time and moneyBut I want one :(
>>61499378Make sure to use sportwash for your non-civilian clothes.
Best molle nalgene pouch that isn't a gorillion dollars? preferably in marpat or coyote or any other solid non-black color
>>61498441genuinely normal multicam
>>61499828USMC canteen pouch
>>61499877ah i should have looked at usmc pouches. Stupid question, any specific ones to avoid or will I be fine grabbing any molle 2 pouch?
>>61487115>tactical kitty cat earshuh
I was looking around the AWS website and they have these new production chicom rigs.The description says government overrun for a "Tier One Unit"Has anyone seen units with these? I imagine it might be for some local units like Iraq SWAT or something.Being AWS, they have quite a pedigree and do plenty of gov contract stuff so I can't imagine it's a marketing ploy.
>>61500252It's like a copy of a basic chicom rig, I find it weird a tier 1 unit would need something like this especially in black unless trying to mix in with some foreign police or something
>>61498441Dirty acu.
>>61500252>completely sold outdon't tease me like this anon
>>61489365whats the kit in the pic ?
looking for good buttpackpreferably in Olive/OD Green/Ranger Green/Adaptive Greencant be more than 40 shekelsany tips ?
>>61500553Travel back in time and get a fireforce tactical one
>>61500553I have a Rothco buttpack. I'm sure there are better quality buttpacks, but it seems pretty good.
Anyone got any experience with a decent 2-2-1 point sling? Is the Vickers 221 worth the premium over the magpul MS4 Dual QD sling? Wanted a 1-point for my flux raider>inb4 gay for flux
>>61500662I really dig the surplus S&S toadvine slings for single points
>>61489673>>61489652Unless you are doing a Cold War LARP, there are far better H-harness and buttpack options. My poorfag rig is built on an Eagle Industries harness and matching buttpack.
>>61492761>>61493708Asking again for more of your flat lay pictures. While I'm not a huge fan of the rifle setups themselves your gear selection is on point.
>>61500682Since the PCC thread is dogshit and just people arguing about Italians - what do you recc? I wanted something in the TP9 form factor that can be NVG ready but I don't want the proprietary can. Mini Uzi and pay out the dick for magazines? All options in this category are dogshit
>>61499598Pls gib GSR, I want to larp as sneaki breeki leet
>>61500757Spent years thinking about this and finally settled on the MP9MP9 excellent and literally one of a handful of locked action guns that wont recoil like shit.In full auto it runs a comfortable 1000RPM but doesnt really climb, cant say the same about the unlocked breach subguns I have/have shot and most of those are running 1/2 the speed.Pop the can off an MP9 and its only marginally larger than a normal 9mm handgun, think G19 vs G34 size difference tier step.Accuracy wise I have no problems offhand hitting at 100yd with subs, sure its a wet noodle when it gets there but what do you expect from sub 9mm? >Proprietary canYeah that part sucks for sure but with 1 day F1 approvals and the can not being expensive its not very hard to dedicate the can.if you want to be petty about it, you can adapt the can to 3lug as well for your MP5 by just unthreading ass end and threading on the MP5 QD adapter.>UZIsLeast favorite gun I own or up there.
>>61500791>1 day F1 approvalsF4***
>>61500604>>61500625:/I hoped there be more to offer.I will check it out and while I am at it I will search trough some "Airsoft" gear.
>>61500917Its just not good, especially at that pricepoint.If you bump it up to like $66 you can get the jungle buttpack from velocity with a casual 8-10wk lead
Are tru spec shirts and pants acceptable? The ones made from the real multicam material not the cheaper ones.
>>61501059They are constructed what id consider "okay", they arent instantly crumbling tier chineseium but you should expect irish pennants.Their patterning is nothing fancy so expect that.
>>61500937I swear to God all I ever needed was a Simple Smersh AK kit but I was late to the party and now its more likely to spot a unicorn than to get a reasonably priced SSO kit.I have spend 180 bucks on pouches.Its insane how much one has to spend to have a fully functional complete kit.And thats just a budget one !
>>61501095>Not just buying PLCE>Guns locked up somewhere elseI hope you arent the italian
>>61500732Yeah I dig the old school look, I have modern stuff as well, this is specifically for scratching that retro itch
>>614871151st time plate carrier purchaser. I am in the market for a Warrior Systems DCS and some level 4 plates. What vendors do you guys recommend? Also is it true that the m4 pouches that come with the DCS are adequate for 7.62 AK mags? I have 5.56 AR/AUG and 7.62 AK rifles and I am hoping to find mag pouches that can accommodate all of them.
>>61501152Can we convince you to buy any more modern of a carrier at all?
>>61501200If the price is right and the mag pouches are compatible with what I need then yes. Like I said this is my 1st time and I have very little knowledge. I gladly welcome any input.
>>61501230>CarriersCrye JPC 2 comes in at slightly less than the DCS carrier and will be vastly more comfortable and breathable. Crye SPC is a functional improvement over either with the structural loading, especially if you ever plan for sideplates. Both carriers have vastly superior shoulder strap areas compared to the DCS that will make it much easier to shoulder a rifle>PouchesAK mags due to the lugs arent going to work super well with most pouches, ive had good luck with flapped double M4 mag pouches holding 1x 7.62 AK mag per (pic rel). Do not buy a carrier based on included pouches, you will be changing pouches anyway to suit your need. Aug mags are a bit easier to work with until you get to 40 rounders. True flexibility on your chest would be taco mag pouches but open top on chest going to collect all sorts of trash. If you do the previously mentioned JPC you can setup panels and swap between a double M4 and single M4 to cover most of your mags. In this pic >>61501200 ive got single m4, single 7.62, double m4 and double 7.62. This covers my ARs, SCAR 17, SCAR20 and similar. Then in this pic >>61500791 I have a SMG mag panel that will do my subgun mags. If I want to slick the carrier down to wear only belt kit or get it lower vis I can simply strip the panel entirely. Really quick and easy process to do all this stuff and I would highly suggest you build your setup with modularity in mind.DCS can take chest rigs which is a form of modularity, but its just very expensive and bulky to swap around those as panels.
Is there any company that makes a viper hood simular to this that doesn't cost nearly 300 dollars?https://www.beezcombatsystems.com/collections/predator-ghillie%E2%84%A2/products/predator-ghillie%E2%84%A2-cobra-lite
>>61501405No and you will hate the viperhood most of the time
>>61501429How so? Seems like a good way to break up the shape of the head and shoulders. Is there any alternative?
>>61501283Going for modularity makes perfect sense.Looking at their website, am I correct that the SPC is a lighter version of the JPC that doesn't come with a cummerbund? Does it lose any modularity over the JPC?>you will be changing pouches anyway to suit your needMakes sense, I imagine I will likely be carrying an AUG if I am actually using it for real so I will focus on that. If it is as simple as pulling the AUG pouches off and sticking some AK pouches on then that is a no brainer.>Aug mags are a bit easier to work with until you get to 40 roundersMy 40 rounders on my AUG and AK will be in the gun, i'll only be carrying 30's in pouches.>True flexibility on your chest would be taco mag pouches but open top on chest going to collect all sorts of trashI definitely want flaps to avoid debris.I assume I can get dedicated pouches for radios and mount a push to talk mic on one of the shoulders or chest somehow?>belt kitI have never been able to find a belt that didnt absolutely destroy my hips when I put any kind of weight on it beyond a pistol and a few mags.
>>61501434Its a huge snag issue in any sort of veg and its your entire upper body being snagged. In wind they catch a good bit and flutter around and they retard your hearing even more. They are good for static positions and short stalks but if you are just planning on tromping through the woods you are going to hate it>Other optionsCrye half ghillie so you can resell it when you realize its a bad idea. Leaf suits so they sit much closer to body and solve a lot of the snagging.etc
>>61501466>Looking at their website, am I correct that the SPC is a lighter version of the JPC that doesn't come with a cummerbund? Does it lose any modularity over the JPC?SPC is a structural carrier, the cumberbund distributes front and rear plate weight to reduce sag and better carry that load. Comparing them side by side identically configured the SPC basically gives you "free" sideplates in terms of comfort/weight. If you dont want sideplates, then consider it ~3.5lb of weight.>AUG if using it for realMore like UGH, get an AR bromo>IF its as simple as pulling pouches and sticking onPanel system as found on crye carriers is 4 sticks of velcro off and 4 sticks of velcro on, way nicer than reweaving 3x pouches at 2x sticks of molle each.>Dedicated pouches and PTTYeah basically. I like the crye wing pouches for smaller civilian radios they come in a pair so you get a bonus one for an extra mag or MANET radio. My PTT is also just hard routed thru down to those pouches>Belt kitYeah gotta do some proper belt kit, not a two piece velcro belt or super thin belt.
>>61501507>SPC is a structural carrier, the cumberbund distributes front and rear plate weight to reduce sag and better carry that load. Comparing them side by side identically configured the SPC basically gives you "free" sideplates in terms of comfort/weight. If you dont want sideplates, then consider it ~3.5lb of weight.Interesting thanks for the info. I doubt I will want side plates but I definitely still want the option.>More like UGH, get an AR bromoI have 2 ARs and muh AUG does the exact same thing while being way more handy. The ergonomics for pressure pad placement leaves something to be desired but that is my only gripe. >velcroThis is the way.Do you have any recommendations on reliable vendors where I can get this stuff?
>>61501572I really like optactical as a whole. Good service and good dudes there. Avoid ordering crye direct as they are perpetually slow/backordered on everything. Norgestar on ebay is legit as well.>AUG just as goodMounting lasers sucksMounting clipons impossibruWhat is your plate budget?
>>61501596>AUG just as good>Mounting lasers sucksGaze upon it's magnificence, and know, that an AR can not compete with my OAL>Mounting clipons impossibruTrue, but you can install an extended top rail to make this dream reality.>What is your plate budget?I guess around $500 per plate or less would be ideal. I can afford more though if quality suffers below $500. I don't need the best of the best just something that will do the job.
>>61501108>the italiannoguess thats someone elsebut I am cucked by the EU too
>>61501748>guess thats someone elseWe have a regular from Italy that is addicted to milsurp. I think that he resells for profit, but has made some bad investments.
>>61501740$500 is sort of a strange middle ground armor wise. It puts you well beyond the amongos $100-$189 chinese plates or the $200 8lb US plates. But leaves you below the true lightweight plates. You could grab hesco 4r601s with that budget easily which are fairly okay at 6.6lb per for a med.If you are sus'd out by the recalls constantly from the hoplite recalls you should consider doubling your budget to LTC 26300s or maybe highcom 4s16 within budget.
>>61501819>recalls constantly from the hoplite recallsYou will have to decipher this one, totally borqued that.>>61501748RIP EU guy, either way PCLE the budget way to do all of this.
>>61501788thats a really retarded business idea unless its some mint condition stuff which he got directly from the Army of which I highly doubt he did.Or what is he selling old Kevlar Vests and Helmets to 3rd World militias ?
>>61501819Thanks for all the info. I will definitely bite the bullet and up my budget.
>>61501405Buy a surplus vehicle cam net and cut out the shape of a hood for yourself. Wrap your ruck in it. Cut out a section for your lean-to poncho. Make helmet scrim. Wrap your gun in it. The possibilities are endless and you have metres of cam net to use however you like
>>61492761>obligatory 'wtf that stippling' post
>>61492761>the KAC BUIS as a vertical gripbased
>>61502259A grip for manly tears.
I keep fighting the urge to buy a bunch of stuff I want but don't immediately need because I damn well know there are Memorial Day sales coming up in a month...
>>61500553Eagle Industries Ranger/Marine bag - top row, #3. Great bag, got mine for $45.>>61501130Gotta respect the old school. I'd like to copy the Canadian '82 pattern backpack at some point - it had a detachable valise back on the lower part of the frame, seems useful for hunting and birdwatching.
>>61501405https://tacticalconcealment.com/super-viper-1/
>>61498441concamo, ranger green, m81
>>61500553same, I need one for my FLC
Are camelbaks/hydration carriers worth it? I've been using a pair of old school USGI canteens for ages, are back-mounted soft hydration carriers genuinely an improvement or is it just a gimmick?I can see that they're easier to use and that they collapse when empty for a lower profile. The bladder just seems like it would be really prone to damage and thus leakage, plus they cost more.
>>61501788>but has made some bad investments.not that I know of, only took 1 loss on over a year>>61501108rent free
>>61501844>either way PCLE the budget way to do all of thisSo I have been searching and found something.Looks really nice tho its in Multiscam but its not the end of the world.Doesnt have a Buttpack but has tons of pouches.Price is also not bad at all (120 bucks)Question is: Is this some chinesuim shit or is this legit ?sauce https://www.militarykit.com/products/kombat-btp-camo-airborne-webbing-set
>>61501788>but has made some bad investments.?
>>61501819adept colossus or adept RF2 lightweight ones idk the name >>61502991absolutely, you can just walk and do shit and sip from it, instead of having to stop, the thing is tho that I feel it's extremely more satisfying to drink from a canteen that sip from the tube
>>61502991With a bladder you can sip on the go while keeping your hands free, if you use a (modern) gas mask you can get things so you can drink while sealed up.Depending on what bladder you have you can also collect a far larger volume of water in a shorter amount of time compared to filling canteens.I've never managed to damage a bag but I think it also helps if you have a compartment for it so it's not directly getting poked by things.Drinking lines and mouth pieces I have damaged but they're relatively cheap to replace or repair.Main thing really is cleaning the water line.
>>61497343lmao>>61500529velocity system jungle harness>>61500553https://www.velsyst.com/products/jungle-butt-pack
>>61503036Kombat is a brand for cadets, kind of like jrotc or boyscouts. Idk if its shit or not, but its not milsurp if thats what youre asking.
>>61502991you can get the MSR dromedary to carry extra water to supplement/refill canteens. much more durable than other bladders as it's more a laminated canvas than plastic. the amount of water needed is really environment and you specific.
>>61503158so its not badI was afraid that it was some chink shit that wasnt even sew together.I already had a pouch just fall apart in my hands as I weaved it onto pals webbing.Needed a simple pouch and I cheaped out on MFH.
>>61503535it's gonna be ok anon. t.doesn't own one
>>61487174Bro I just bought the fanny sack mk3 and have to wait till monday for A2 to tell me I'm a good gunsoomer. Anyone else here have one? Did I get meme'd on?
>>61503552I hope so, deleted the post since I meant to reply to infographposter
>>61503563a2 has said, and i'm paraphrasing here, spiritus is /our/ guys and they are incredibly based. take that as you will
>>61503588A2 told me to get one before I know I just want him to pat my head and tell me I'm a good boy for buying it
>>61492692What are these kinds of jackets called? I've got a sort of similar Helikon-Tex Wolfhound I like a lot but fuck paying $60 for shipping from Poland again.
>>61503720lvl7 jackets
>>61498513>ManateeHPG Bro?>>61500743idk what flat lays you even have, but here's the weirdest one imo. Only have like 4 pics that are current anyways, so don't get your hopes up. Are you interested from a photography standpoint or a gear standpoint? My rifles are weird, I get it>>61502198ngl my buddy kinda fucked up it and I haven't told him bc his ego is fragile. glock was free so I don't care that much anyways>>61502259based are those who notice
>>61498441AOR2
Are there any k/aggers out there who can help me identify the model of this Team Wendy helmet? The only markings are here in this photo of the impregneted code "G1S1-3". All other factory stickers are missing. Helmet weighs 2 lbs 0.6 oz. all incluse pads and 3.0 rails.
It might be an Exfil Ballistic. G1 = GreenS1 = Size One (M/L)The geometry looks right, too.They claim that the weight is 2.6 pounds, which is a little bit higher, but other than that it seems like an Exfil.
>>61505385>>61505591I have a ballistic exfil and it only has a sticker there, no stamping (unless its underneath it). It's probably an older one.
what's the best suspension and padding I can upgrade my 'amazon special' bump with?
>>61505385theres a guy selling me a mich2000 bit It has no sticker at all, just an "M1" marking on the inside, any way to tell if it's original?and what's a good price for it? the guys asks 150e which seems decent, otherwise I've found an IHPS but its 800e which is too steep, is the ihps a good helmet? dont know much about jt
/arg/ needs to go back to their containment.
>>61505591>>61505667Thanks for the help in the stamping. Though the helmet I am looking at is just shy over 2lbs ready to wear. This weight would be more in line with the SL. Thoughts?
>>61505785Return it and get a FMA caiman if you cant. got a free bump helmet with nods that sucked, bought aftermarket opscore arc rails and ratchet system
>>61506037tell me more? I'm not trippin too bad over the bump, I have a proper ballistic but the bump is obviously a little more convenient in terms of weight, shroud is tight too. And it's probably too late to return it since I've had it for a while. Opscore ratchet system is good though? What about their pads?
>>61506037He's going to have to put in pads for the FMA as well. The stock ones are awful.
>>61506085IDK about the ops pads I just bought a set of cheap blem arc rails for mounting earproThe ratchet was some amazon special that came with memoryfoam padding
Adult men wear this stuff kek
>>61506183>I'm suited up bro let's go shoot some target and then you can shoot a load into my asshole
>>61505997Few more pics:
whats the best gear for a gay retard
>>61506240Multicam
>>61506240we actually have a resident expert on that named A3 or something, ask him or just reference his gear pics
>>61506240Full UCP with every velcro part covered in cringe patches.
>>61504951Gear standpoint, always a cool mixture of gear. The rifles aren't bad just not my cup of tea. The pistol rig one is probably my favorite but I just like looking at your photographs.
carinthia bivy in Belgian jigsaw pretty cool I would say
>>61506502I kind of want this.
>>61506240anything posted
>>61506240Join me brother.
>>61498441
>>61506214
good price for 6094's at lbt right now ($250)https://lbtinc.com/collections/sale/products/6094
Is the stuff from Tasmanian Tiger any good?
>>61507125No.Usually very poorly designed.Some of their packs are okay, but the plate carriers and chest rigs are shit-tier.
>>61506444Nice, well thanks man. Don't like posting old stuff so In terms of what's current, I think this is pretty much it. lmk your thoughts good or bad, even with the rifles. I value constructive criticism and know I don't have the best shit, but it's always evolving
>>61507101fuck that's a good dealughughhhhhh
>>61507101>>61507414this vs mepc?
>>61507496Mepc is a nicer slickster. 6094 is heavy but robust. I like my slickster but if I was going to war I would bring a 6094
>>61507101would be nice if I didnt have to pay 22% VAT based on not only the price of the item but also shipping and duties making the actual cost around 370$, fuck European taxes
>>61505785team wendy suspension and 4D pads. Replace the shroud with a real one.
>be me>go sleep outside in a small wooded patch in the middle of cropfields>full camo>choose a shit place in the middle of a giant thorn bush to not be ran into by ppl>wake up in the morning, see 2 giant dogs walk by, they dont see me>fuck, cling to my knife>owner passes by too, 10m from me, doesnt see mefeels good to be camoed up and ppl not seeing me
>>61507930What camo were you wearing?
i could buy a bunch of UCP gp, ifak, sustainment and buttpack pouches for 2 dolls a piece and dye them instead of splurging on other ones that cost alot more, but how well can ucp be turned into coyote brown?
>>61507937couple of trashbags and bits of cardboard with my spongebob pants
>>61507930>be meWho else would you be?
>>61508004depends what I identify as
>>61508031You're about to identify as was/were.
What us a good small edc bag that has good storage and organization internally that doesn't scream I have a gun. Want enough space to carry a couple extra pistol mags, some first aid stuff and maybe a light jacket stuffed in it. Bonus points for a small laptop pocket. No real budget restraint but doesn't have to be top of the line hype beast gear either.
>>61498441multicam tropic
Redpill me about spiritus since A2 doesn't work here weekends and I bought the $70 fanny pack like he told me to
>>61508506Make your own opinions instead of being an NPC.
>>61508550I just want opinions because I fell for the meme
>>61508567Despite the owner not being too popular, the products are g2g.
>>61508577>not being too popularyou mean by the "people" calling spiritus airsoft gear
>>61508506Spiritus Systems is a shit-tier hypebeast brand for fat vaccinated redditors in open relationships who jerk it to Blacked.com and support BLM but who also happen to own firearms. Their products are marketed like tactical nylon Funko Pops but with 'quirky' names and their Instagram is just photos of the staff wearing a mixture of civilian clothing and meme camos like desert night camo to appeal to the absolute manchildren they call their customer base. Merely typing Spiritus into google will give you unlimited reddit links to balding software engineers who own entire walls of LV-119s in different camo patterns. Hilariously you will struggle to find a single picture of any active duty SOF guys wearing Spiritus Gear because it's shit and anyone who uses gear for work doesn't touch it with a barge pole. Basically owning a Spiritus Systems product is an admission that you post in /r/cuckhold and own a Nintendo Switch
>>61508463Lbt 22L pack is pretty nice
>>61508782bruh, its just nylon
>>61508782All I did was buy a fanny pack from them, you weirdo
>>61508839>fur fagwhy would you validate >>61508782 ?
>>61508853Fiddle is A2 approved
>>61508882True
>>61508835I'll give it a look, any other recs? Thanks anon.
>>61508506I just use my issued GI fanny pack
>>61506502I have one in Dutch DPM. A legit Carinthia one, not one of the later KPU or Fecza versions.t. DPM enjoyer
>>61509467I bought it cus A2 said fanny IFAKs are better than belt mounted ones
>>61506188>He is a loving husband and proud father of two daughtersLol. Lmao
>>61510185baseddidnt try it yet since I received it yesterday, it's bigger than the US MSS bivy I have in m81, new it costs 700e but I got it for 75, new goretex products are expensive af
>>61510910This is pathetic cope. The whole reason his son became a seal to begin with is because he was a failure of a father, and his failure can also be blamed for DJ being a emotionally stunted drama whore. Weird to try take the moral high ground on absentee fathers when its exactly what he did.
>>61511198I mostly just think it's funny for DJ to write that about himself when this is just out there in the world for everybody to see.They're both clearly huge shitbags from where I'm sitting.
>>61511198It's not surprising. Narcissists and psychopaths have a pathological need to invent all sorts of fantastical horseshit to support their view that not only is nothing wrong with them or their actions, but that they are entirely justified.
i got a good amount of goretex bivys and jackets/pants, I want to wash them with nikwax goretex cleaner and then dwr, anything i should know beforehand?I'd also want to dwr some of my other stuff like LVL7 jackets, is it better to use spray or to wash them too?I'll probably buy spray anyway bc I want to out it on my backpacks
is a ciras a decent PC in current time?I can get one for 150$ or an LBT6094 coyote with a bunch of pouches for 200
if you are in Europe and own an ITAR restricted item is it illegal in some way? either illegal in the EU country (depends which ofc), or illegal in the us but with extradition it's still illegal.or is it just illegal to export it and if you own it from buying it used it's not a problem?I wrote to eotech for a warranty question about delamination and the guy asked about SN and then suspiciously inquired about how the process for importing it was, which makes me think the SN told him it was a US eotech and not an exported one.anyway I dont even own it I was inquiring before buying it to see if I could get it repaired but now I'm interested
>>61511617Depends if it was legally exported or not. Also remember ITAR is US law and individual countries will have their own individual restrictions on importing/exporting/owning dual use tech, which may or may not mirror ITAR.
>>61511617no, it's not illegal for you to own. ITAR is just for US exports.
>>61511617ITAR only affects the companies that moved the product, and assuming they didn't file some paperwork that would exempt them from the restrictions.The end user isn't necessarily affected by ITAR however there might be other laws and regulations that concern the end user/ final owner like 3+ gen night vision
>>61508782Funny. I never see fat people wearing spiritus. You an agilite shill. Post bmi
Some people take sewing nylon very seriously, but in a retarded way.
>>61487115Thoughts on these? They're lvl 4s
>>61513140>chink>not NIJTrash
>>61513178They're made in the USA and NIJ certified so can you please try again with legitimate reasons?
>>61513196No, buy them and have fun.
is the adept nova steel helmet good?I've seen ballistic tests on yt and it actually works, seems a good option, good weight, good protection and low price
>>61513232Okay hi-speed what would you suggest then? I was originally looking at hescos but they have qc issues and have had a few if their plates kicked due to not meeting NIJ certs
>>61513329adept RF2 or colossus
>>61513292now of course the video is from adept themselves so I'd like to see an independent test
>>61513292They're weirdly good. Makes it seem like DuPont Corruption™ that Kevlar helmets were ever introduced at all, because that helmet beats the shit out of the PASGT at a lighter weight.
>>61511617ITAR only applies to exports from the USA. In your country, there are local laws. Many things that are ITAR-restricted are not restricted in the EU. But thermal and IR rifle scopes are extremely illegal to possess, in most countries. Some countries, such as France, also appear to limit NVG more generally.
>>61508782Their marketing techniques are extremely obnoxious. And their LV119 is a shitty design. There really isn't anything good about Spiritus.
>>61511255The spray (TX.Direct Spray-On) is just fine. In most cases it's easiest to use the spray, and I've found that it works as well as any other option
my gear is too heavyif i hike in the woods every two weeks with a bunch of weight on my back and eat a ton of chicken will i get strongeri am a low testosterone lanklet
>>61513787It's actually really hard to carry enough protein and calories to feed your muscles in the woods. Strength training in a gym setting coupled with nutrition geared to encourage muscle development is the best way to go. Also, carefully consider what you actually need to carry and remove whatever you don't.
>>61513813> caloriesI can help.> Macadamia nuts> Pecan nuts> Twix barsThose are the most calorie-dense foods on the planet. Now add:> Peanuts> Dried meatFor protein and you're good to go. I always take these foods with me when I go into the woods/jungle for days on end.
>>61512881The CEO in literally all Spiritus videos Adam is clinically obese and has a BMI of 40. He made a whole video on “why the bdu shirt is better than combat shirts” to cope with the fact that he’s fat and too embarrassed to wear a combat shirt because his giant gut would balloon out
>>61513329Hescos are fine, literally the entire backlash to hesco is from one shill dropshipper sperging out on multiple platforms (mostly reddit and facebook but he used to shit the place up here too) over the course of years seemingly because he could not get a vendor contract with them.When Hesco's plates failed FIT (these are regular follow-up tests of random batches of compliant products to make sure that they still pass) tests, they did what any legitimate manufacturer would do: they recalled the plates in question that were still under warranty with offer of a free replacement of a newer product, and allowed the certification to lapse while phasing the product in question out. That's all pretty fuckin normal, above-board behavior.>>61513196>They're made in the USA and NIJ certifiedAt literally no point in the entire product description does it say either of those things lmao. It says "assembled in the USA" and further down clarifies that the components come from their "trusted partners in asia" and it says "tested to NIJ standards" not "NIJ certified"That anon is trying to help you, stop being a retard.Buy LTCs or Hescos. They both make plates in your pricerange.
>>61514062>to be, rather than seemMy sides.
>>61513787Bump that shit up to once or twice a week. I remember when I hiked the grand canyon a few years ago, I was vastly out of shape and trained hard for a few months before I actually even did the hike. I was in decent shape and even then I was absolutely done by the time I got to camp 12 miles in fairly rocky terrain with 40lbs on my back. You just gotta train, and train frequently.
>>61514121>one shill dropshipperHe is extremely online, though. He shits up everywhere he goes, and it's amazing that he was chased off here.
>>61513140is this some kind if sick joke to post the shittiest gear you can find?
>>61514857Mira safety is a brand which astroturfs everywhere.
>>61514857Indeed. I understand skimping on shit like pouches, but skimping on armor is top tier retardation.
>>61514787A source of great regret to me is buying my helmet from Apex. It's a great helmet but it makes me sad to have given that fuckin asshole money.
>>61513876I think I'd still recommend strength training independent of the bag, particularly core stability and lat raises in addition to legs. If your core stability is not that great, carrying a heavy pack tends to make your posture worse.
>>61513495only problem is that the rail system it has is the only one a available and doesnt seem very good
>>61513876feels like eating obese shit when going out and eating twix and shit, but I'd also true I'm burning tons of calories, more than what i eat probably
>>61514883If it makes you feel better, it's essentially impossible to avoid giving an asshole your money from time to time unless you literally grow and fabricate your own everything.
>>61513495>beats the shit out of the PASGTokay but what about a modern helmet thats actually relevant?
>>61515071looks better in backface deformation which is arguably way more important on a helmet than for plates.
>>61515071has less bfd and can not be cared about where you leave it more bc it doesnt get rekt by heat like being in muh car trunk or in the sun with UV unlike UHMWPE and its lighter too, problem is the mounting shroud seems flimsy and is expensive af but mounting nvgs is fundamental
how much should I pay for AOR1 crye combat pants?
>>61515275$0 you should go to buds and earn them faggot
>>61515346if they gave me a green card itd be cool, but I'd join the marines actually if I could enlist in the US
It took me an hour to get the molle gear on my belt to be flush fit and I tore through a layer or two of skin
>>61515346Shut the fuck up retard
>>61515066Sure but there's conceptually supported people I don't like out of necessity or expediency and there's "damn I really gave a dude I personally hate one thousand American dollars" lol
What ballistic goggles is US military using right now?
>>61515844ESS is always popular.
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Anyone have experience with UR tactical? From what I'm reading it's american fabric but with chinese labor and it's supposedly good quality. They have certain camo patterns nobody else has.
>>61516018The same model from like 2007?
Is there a full list of ALL ucp gear/clothes/equipment produced for US military?
anyone have any suggestions on shooting gloves that are either in ranger or od green?
Is TAP chest rig a good system? How is it even different from FLC?
>>61516685decent chest, great mag disposition and can attach gp, frags and ifak, and still keep it flat, the harness isnt that good tho, the flc is good and cheap, more bulky and a bit hotter, holds weight better both very cheap
>>61487148I noticed that Mike's partner company(?) or his company(?)'s Recce rig is never recommended. It looks kind of like the blue force gear 10 speed which is cheaper - is that why?
>>61516685Yea. Even if you don't mod it, it's fine.
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is this an older version of the lbt6094?I see the velcro MOLLE in the front is different and doesmt seem to have velcro on the backwhatever, is there any relevant difference with the newer one?it comes with 3 lbt double mag pouches, 1 lbt gp pouch, and 1 lbt triple pistol mag pouch for 200$, could maybe bring it down a bit, seems a good deal
Been thinking about a lightweight hardshell to put over a plate carrier and chest rig to help with concealment if needed. Dumb idea or...recommendations? Anyone do anything similar?
What am I missing, besides dirt, blood and pussy scent?Ferro Concepts Slicker with Haley bits. Qore performace water plate. TYR-T52/SPX plates.Side plates?Take off the Haley micro pack?
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Are PASGT helmets supposes to chip when you whack them with a machete?
