China STRONG editionGuide (for those who cannot do their own research):https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin:https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik (embed) (embed)CHINA GUNS HAVE NO SAFETY GAY RETARD WORDS (mostly)China 45: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1055997608China Tokarev: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1054085332China 9mm (8 mag capacity legal in all states, and also mag is expandable af): https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1056594557China 22: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1052270672STOP FUCKING PAYING FOR Y*UTUBE PREMIUMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bem4adjGKjE&t=28s [Embed]on Android just download F-Droid app store and fucking download NewPipe (yt-dlp frontend I think)on iPhone fucking jailbreak your shit like a b@d g0y, and then just find a Cydia repo that mods your Youtube
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>>61991532for me, its grayjay
which stupid baby idiot video game is responsible for so many people putting red dot sights on their pistols
>>61991532>Sorry, you have been blocked>You are unable to access gunbroker.comFUCK
>>61991808wtf lol that's some witchraft
>>61991808Tell ya what, here's what I'd do:>install some browser addon that shows your public IP on your screen>change your public IP such as by resetting a router whose public IP is not static (a service that costs a little per month)>either install a new browser, use a VM, or wipe cookiesThis is actually an effective measure to evade fingerprinting, only screen and OS and even hardware get capped out to Cl*udflare after a bit.
I FUCKING WANT THIS GUN, A CHINESE 9MM TOKAREVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3ZrYhZY2sc
>>61992024Is that a jam 14 seconds in? Kek
>>61992024I'm just memeing btw these are the shittiest pieces of shit ever made, you're almost better off buying a Taurus
Do people like FDE?
>>61992328Depends.
Reposting this because I'm a fag and didn't see the new thread. I have two tone Glock 19 with the 'FDE' poop brown frame and a black slide. Considering having the slide and barrel nitrided a darker grey to make something like this 43. Is there any stock gun that has a two-tone like this? Feel like I've seen it on a Beretta or an FN before.>>61992328Yes.
>>61992328Yes, but with the caveat that any gun that comes in a different color should also be available in black. Looking at you, M9A4
>>61992328i like it on bolt bois, not handguns
>>61992328only on m9, mk18, and tanks
>>61992328Some guns look good in FDE and some look like shit from an ass. I think FDE needs contrast to shine. Looks nice with black slides.
>>61991663>Moved to Texas>still doesn't have any guns
>>61992328yeah>>61992348Beretta m9a3 fde is two tone (opposite of your pic, slide is tan and frame is lighter)
>>61992348This could actually look cool if it was a darker grey. There's no pistols that I can think of that fit that finish description - maybe one of the PX4 guys on here has both and can slide swap for you.
>>61992348M9A3 FDE was like that, the frame would be sand colored (a light gray) with the FDE slide
>>61992437This guy? Either way this looks pretty slick.
>>61992469Yes. Actually you were right on both counts, the FNX is two tone too
>>61992405Just saw this, thanks guys this is exactly what I'm after. Always wondered why this color combo seems so uncommon. I like the idea behind FDE stuff breaking up the threatening black profile for rifles but I never see this carried over to handguns. I'm also not a huge fan of full FDE.
>>61992348>>61992483Not a handgun but this is pretty common on a lot of European rifles. HK, B&T, Haenel, etc. You can also look to a lot of aftermarket Glock slides as they utilized a similar finish, I think it's probably just not as attractive to the American consumer market who end up just spray painting their shit anyways.
>>61992520Q has a monopoly on 50 shades of FDE in the states
>>61992520Gen 3 with what I believe is a Zen slide on the right if you're looking for more handgun examples. If you end up doing this just make sure it's a quality manufacturer, PVD is very easy to fuck up.
>>61992540Zev*>>61992535Oh right, I always forget about Q.
>>61990627The reason I said the stock s2c safety is good if you want to carry hammer down (preferably halfcock) is because it's so low profile and stiff you won't accidently put it on. And the safety can be engaged at halfcock on shadows but you can damage the gun if you pull the trigger like this
>>61991532Anyone ever tried Meprolight red dots? I struggle to find any opinion on these, I'm wondering whether they're underrated or trash, considering they're cheaper than Holosuns and judging by the little feedback I got, they're serviceable.
>>61991800Probably fallout 4
>>61991800You’re a stupid faggot
>>61992552MDT ESS looks better than the arab Heanel chassis
>>61991800had to be one of the call of duty or battlefield games
>>61992992I just realized that's a Streamlight on that Glock, so they do actually market their products towards poorfags.
>>61993024>MDT ESSidk anon this looks pretty trash by comparison - the KRG Whiskey looks much better than both by comparison.
>>61993142>>61993024meanwhile this is the right kind of 50 shades - also handguns handguns handguns
>>61993017We were doing a great job of avoiding the obvious bait but then you had to fuck it up
>>61993177I don’t think it’s bait because outside of this bubble there are anti-red dot retards on this board
>>61993142The top one is the correct ESS, if thats looking trash to you its time for a eye correction ;_;>>61993158Where is the german rainbow version?
>20 different flavors of EPS carryNever before have I more understood being overwhelmed by choice than I have lately. On that note, do you all think it would be worth it to pay a little extra for a holster that covers the red dot?
>>61992405How's the Raider holding up?
>>61993283Red 2 MOA dot. There you go, analysis paralysis cured
>>61993443>2 MOA This has to be a troll. Get the 6 MOA.
>>61993283Just get a single red dot (green if you have ligmatism), circle dots are a gimmick and the solar is a gimmick that doesn't offer any useful failsafe.
>>61993560Yes I am likely going with green because of slight tism. Not as bad as the other guy posting his eldritch abomination tier dot.>solarI don't think EPS has solar right?
>>61993346Good so far. Put another 125 rounds (100 230gr ball, 25 185gr hollow point) through it last weekend with 0 problems. Accuracy is decent, better than I can shoot offhand in any case
>>61993593The MRS has it, but it's only used for auto-brightness (shit) and emergency power (not a capacitor backup so shit)
>>61993466Elaborate please.
>>61993630I'm the guy who originally said 2 MOA. There's always a case to be made for 6 because the larger dot is easier to acquire for some and doesn't make a huge difference in accuracy at pistol ranges. You'd have to be pushing out pretty far for it to make a significant difference. That said, I don't have issues picking up my 2 MOA dots. It comes down to personal preference, idk why the dude thinks it's trolling to recommend 2.
>>61993630Bigger is better.
>>61993657>>61993659Thank you. I'm pretty used to 2 MOA on rifle optics. Should there be an appreciable difference going to a pistol optic that I won't have a good time with 2?
>>61992348I am starting to like colors and contrast. Especially if they are subtle.
>>61991532it's 2024 and the gun industry has failed to produce a p365/p11-like 1.5 stack micro-compact DA/SA (decocker only) or striker-fired metal framed pistol in 9mm. The closest thing we have is the 80X Cheetah, it's in 380, has a manual safety, and is 1.4" wide according to handgun hero. There's Khar as well but it's DAO and single stack. Also everything's ugly now. Why, because of stupid things like optics cuts, rails, front slide serrations, "READ THE MANUAL", and 'flush fit' mags that aren't really flush, and logos. You've successfully min-maxed your way to shit aesthetics.
>>61993883Just buy a PX4 compact
>>61993908>polymer >not micro-compact
>>61991800being in my 40s with dogshit eyes is why I got a dot
>>61993930Micro compact is a fad.
>>61991800My Night Vision doesn't work with iron sights too well.
>>61993972even assuming it is, can you point to compact or sub-compact gun that fits the criteria I mentioned? probably not, the metal ones aren't 1" width max, have reasonable capacity, and are still in production. it just doesn't exist.
>>61994014PX4 Compact, CZs, HK P30SK, P2000SK, S&W 3913, S&W 6906
>>61994059none of those meet the criteria. just focusing on the metal ones, since the polymer ones obviously fail. >CZ, 6906too thick, the 6906 isn't in production>39138 round capacity, isn't in production
>>61993883
>>61994110kel tec cleans up pretty good
>>61994101Your criteria is stupid, you’re looking for an imaginary handgun based off a checklist that would make a Redditor blush. Just conceal a bigger gun.>>61994110Burt hates it for good reason. I think it becomes pretty wide with the wood panels.
>>6199411015rds, thinner than a P365, striker-fired, metal framed, 9mm, lighter than a 80X.>>61994126>I think it becomes pretty wide with the wood panels.Even with wood panels it's skinnier than a P365.
>>61994113Right? Id actually buy that, its pretty.
>>61994130Well Burt the only guy who has one hates it so I’ll wait for him.
>>61994110not a micro-compact but you did prove me wrong about >>61994014
>>61994140>I found the metal P15 to be too fat for what I wanted it for>The plastic one is slimmer and a lot cheaper>the Keltec P15 holds 12 rounds in a flush two-finger grip and 15 rounds with a 1/2" extendo 3 finger grip>I don't recommend the aluminum one though, plastic seems more practical.> From my experience yesterday, I frigging hate the gun.>The recoil bruised my hand. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. >The explosions, loud like a bomb, gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.>the recoil is very unpleasant even for a micro compact. >I thought it kaboomed the recoil was so harsh. >Ejection over the head and into my face was not uncommon. >And accuracy, even from a rest, was pretty awful, I'm talking 8" at 25y from a bench.
>>61994140https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/k.desu.meta/text/P15/username/Burt/Yeah it sounds like it sucks a lot and is worse than the plastic version
>>61994126>you’re looking for an imaginary handgunliterally the only difference between my checklist and the p365 and similar guns is the metal frame. I'm not asking for the moon here.
>>61994184J-frame
>>61994176>micro compactis it though, it seems a little large for that category
>>61994184Do you not know of the dozen or so aftermarket metal frames you can buy for the P365???
>>61994194>5 round capacity
>>61994210I don't feel like it is. It's on the edge, some people (even Burt lol) refer to it as a microcompact sometimes. It's closer to compact size, but it's very slim, the plastic one is thinner than a Ruger LC9s.
>>61994212I saw those but that's not a firearm, so YOU LOSE, GOOD DAY SIR!
>>61994275looks like a firearm to mehttps://www.sigsauer.com/p365-axg-legion.html
>>61994176There is a downside to being so lightweight. The anons that complain about 2~4 extra ounces a P01 has over a glock won't get a P15.It would probably be better suited to 380 instead of 9mm.>>61994275That's the entire point of the FCU you baiting faggot.
>>61994293>1.4"
>>61994333*width, screenshot skills not what they used to be
>>61992396Oh damn did he? Did he set up a new shop? Bring any employees with him?>>61994113Wait until you shake it>>61994130Even with wood panels it's skinnier than a P365.No way Jose the wood grips spoil it. The plastic one is as thin as a P365, but it's got that long slide ruining pocketability. Wouldn't matter if you IWB tho>>61994210With a 12 round mag it's completely flush, just has the longer slide. I'd still call it a micro 9 with the 12 round mag
>>61994059>P2000SKSold mine, was a piece of shit.
>>61994388>No way JoseI've been lied to, my innocence is shattered. Thanks for the picture, I'm printing it out right now for my lawyer.
>>61994388I think he brought almost everyone with him. NYC was trying to harass him as well by claiming he doesn't pay employee insurance on their state/city now that he's in texas.
>Beretta order shipped with full capacity magsyey!>>61994463Yeah I remember that James Reeves video too. They were talking about the plastic one but he was holding the metal one. It's why I bought the metal one in the first place, they basically lied.>>61994487That's awesome
>state requires a class+shooting test for cc>go in for test, instructors are alright, lot of basic shit like don’t put .45 acp rounds in a 9mm gun tho>range time finally>shit suddenly gets wild>qualification is 70% accuracy on a 16”x22” target with 30 shots at 5, 7, and 10 yards>tactical dressed guy pushes the target out to 20 yards, essentially mag dumps>instructor chews him out, guy points out only 5 shots were out of the zone so he passed>gets booted>then there’s John Wayne guy>dresses like a fucking Cowboy, boots and everything>he’s brought a 6” revolver>slowest shot on earth>5-6 seconds between shots>cocking the hammer every time>instructor gives him the approval, but can tell the instructor can’t find any real reason beyond he’s old and slow
What ammo were glock 17 and M9 designed to fire? BTW is Federal Ammo good? What's the closest 9mm true to milspec load you can buy nowadays?
>>61994694Didn’t you already ask this? Don’t you have the ability to look at the U.S./NATO load for 9mm and deduce that the only 9mm ammo the US had was probably the 9mm ammo they shot out of the M9? Sorry for being rude but with guns there are a lot of specific things you need to figure out yourself and you can rely on someone spoon feeding you the answer, eventually you’ll lose a part of something breaks, you must be able to figure out what part to buy yourself >>61994684Wait so the guy who shot twice as far making good hits at speed didn’t pass?
>>61994110Isn't it known for having lots of problems? seems to be from skimming posts and videos
>>61994707>Wait so the guy who shot twice as far making good hits at speed didn’t pass?He refused to follow simple instructions as required. That's the whole point, so yeah, he failed.
>>61991532Same question from last thread, I'm still soliciting opinions.G26 vs modern micro nines - does anyone actually carry the G26?I feel like it would be good to have some commonality with my G17, but are the micros really so much better?
Used glock 43 with 2 mags for $300, private purchase FTF so no tax, should I cop?
>>61994780It still has a serial number right?Or was it scratched off?
>>61992328Only if the gun it's on is famous for having it, i.e. M17, M45A1, M9A3
>>61994734It's definitely a preference thing. If you keep grip lengths the same you will find the G26 to shoot better, mostly lower recoil, but trigger reach will also be longer if you've got bigger hands. This is because it's thicker and heavier. The G26 will be less comfortable to carry for the same reasons. If you use a quality holster with offset clips instead of non offset clips you won't conceal it noticeably worse unless you wear clingy clothing. It's really a question of whether you want to maximize comfort or shootability.
>>61994783Yeah I think it's a cop selling a blue label gun For $300 good deal or not?
>>61994707“okay guys, can you push the targets out to 5 yards and take 10 shots”>”Fuck you pig”>target zooms to the end of the firing lane>bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang bangbangbangbang bangbangbangbang>”haha I passed right”What would you do?
>haven't gone shooting in 5 years>haven't bought a gun in 2 years>bought a S&W governor and a Springfield 1911 in the last week and going shooting with gf tomorrowI'm pretty excited, lads
>>61994816If he was able to do that and hit the target zones, he passes.
>>61991532Just bought this buckmark used for some fun shooting.Should i have any attention to ammo or Will this lap anything up?
>>61994820So you DID buy a gun in two years then you stupid fucking frog.
>>61991800The ASP guy calls iron sights "gun amish" because, like the amish, you are a luddite who refuses to change with the times
>>61994826>0/10 hits on paper at 5 yards>0/10 hits on paper at 7 yards>0/10 hits on paper at 10 yardsI award him zero points and may God have mercy on his soul.
>>61994842They previous owner was also a galactic level retard and did this.How can fix this crime
>>61993054>Glock markets towards poorfagsYa that's an obvious well known fact. Hood niggers love Glock and are a target audience. My nigga neighbor upstairs has one. You can easily get a Glock for $500 or even less. Glock has to keep their price down in order to stay competitive
>>61994684based, fuck speedrunners
>>61994859That's disgusting. Files, sandpaper.
>>61994843fine PRIOR TO A WEEK AGO, hadn't bought a gun in 2 years, captain autism
>>61994868Its all gun , wont that rust the shit out of hit?
>>61994878All steel*
>>61994849By that logic no matter what you do none of the targets would have been at exactly those distances anyway. Even if you used a rangefinger just breathing or holding your balance would teeter the distance over and under specification so therefore nobody passes ever. Doing it at equal to or greater the distance should pass>>61994812Seems reasonable, but I see a very surprising amount of them in the low $300s. Why the heck are those so cheap?https://www.gunbroker.com/Guns-Firearms/search/completed?Keywords=glock%2043&Timeframe=1&Sort=1&PageSize=48I mean damn here's a NEW one that sold for $315https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1055185352>>61994842>>61994859Cold blue maybe. I'm also worried about that barrel threading with the sight extending out over open air. That limits the diameter of silencer you can put on there, why did he do that instead of moving the sight back?
>>61994869That's MR Captain Autism to you!
We should really bake before we sleep
>>61994931I have no idea i bought it at the shop no from the previous guys.It was a good deal came with 2 mags didn't even think About it i was looking for an accurate cheap .22.But the more o look at it the more dubious decisions seem to have been done
>>61994965Fag
>>61994931>"magdumping at 20 yards doesn't count because it's not part of the assigned course of fire">"BY YOUR LOGIC 10 YARDS AND ONE INCH DOESN'T COUNT"
>>61995013You would still fail him if hit he hit the bulleye everytime shut the fuck up bitch
>>61994997kill any cats lately?
>>61995045Yes, because if he doesn't demonstrate understanding of the course of fire, why should I assume he understood anything else?
>>61995059Yeah i killed a saber tooth lion with my Chiappa Rhino the other day, and also i shot a werewolf and an alien.
>>61995013You’re a little man is a big role. Wanting to bully other people using the government’s authority.The test original objective was to prove adequate skill to hit the target, he accomplished that, you twist the test into a test of obedience to arbitrary rules.
>>61995091This. Anon sounds authy as fuck.
>>61995091It's a State-require CC class. If it increases the barrier to entry for exercising your natural human right to self-defense by any means necessary, it's working as intended. Dude showed up to an "obedience to arbitrary rules" class and chose failure. Cope.
What's the low down on 9mm 1911's? Not 2011's but actual 9mm 1911A1 style. Sacrilege, or justifiable upgrade to ancient pre-boomer tech?
>>61995091Its really a safety issue but he made it into a ITS THE LAW argument
>>61995132They're more pleasant to shoot, but if you want "justifiable upgrades" to the venerable 1911, you can get a functional 2011 for under a grand now.
>>61995121I was cringing the whole entire time at my State CC class. Had to take a triple dose of edibles just to get me through how boring it was. The edibles were the only reason i didn't strangle everyone. I was the least fucked up retarded person in the room btw.
>>619951329mm 1911s are actually pretty nice in ban states with mag size restrictions
>show up to get CC>everyone is a sigger
>>61995132I have a 1911 in 9mmHollowpoints are still gay and not worth the effortIf you like one, snag it. 1911s fall into a funny zone where you’ll get ribbed no matter what you get, but it,a all in good fun>9m 1911WWII was won by the .45, limpwristed fag>double 1911Wow, bet you plan on missing like a faggot>modern 1911 w/ railsFOOKING LASER SIGHTS>.45 1911a1 Nice but is it an original colt? If not it’s a gay copy>.45 1911a1 used in wwii complete with historical documents showing it was used to kill nazis, japs and othersWhat are you using a relic for? That belongs in a museum, get a real race car duty gun, what’s your ipsc rank
>>61995149least maladjusted weed addict, you don't deserve to own guns>>61995228I showed up to my qual with a VP9 and I remember seeing a Kimber, an M&P Equalizer, and a P10c
>>61995251My main gripe with the 1911 is that i find it annoying to disassemble.
>>61995263>i don't deserve to own gunsIt's a natural human right anon. Don't be gatekeeping. Only fags ask for permission on something that is theirs by birthright btw.
>>61995228it was Glock for methere was a guy who brought in his hi-point and I'm pretty sure it was first time because he was shaking afterwards and a group of others hundle around him to call him down
>>61995132>What's the low down on 9mm 1911's? Not 2011's but actual 9mm 1911A1 styleget a Star model B instead
>>61995271For field stripping, all you're doing is turning a bushing and pulling out a recoil spring plug. And then for full disassembly, you're just using a punch to push out a few pins. I don't see how that's annoying
>>61995365As a new 1911 haver, I find the basic field stripping very simple. Honestly I have no idea how you can even make the "idiot" mark, it should be called the "completely retarded gorilla monkey" mark
>>61995132Very pleasant to shoot if steel frame, about average if not on the better side if aluminum, there is some difficulty getting 1911s in 9mm to work due to the cartridge being so much shorter and smaller than .45 ACP. With a 9mm 1911 you usually can swap between .38 super and 9mm by swapping barrels and magazines. >>61995324Yeah bro. Get a gun no longer out of production and not parts compatible with the large aftermarket + made in Spain.
>>61995365It is annoying if you're a retard like me
>>61995314What a fucking idiot. I've seen little kids shooting .308 rifles with smiles on their faces.
>>61995387Get a system that makes the recoil spring captive and it’ll be much easier
>>61995409Or you could do the method where you just pull back the slide and push out the slide stop first. And you cover the recoil spring with your hand as you pull off the slide. No need to worry about the plug flying off somewhere. That's the recommended way for 1911s like Les Baer and Wilson where they make the barrel-bushing fit super tight.
>>61995409I had to fuck up a cheap 1911 in order to learn what not to do
>>61994859Cold blue till the color is less visible and than degreasing wit vreakcleaner and spraying clear coat on it. Wipe it of with microfiber so its only sealing up those ugly holes, spray a few times.
>>61995271So you're pretty dumb then. Sorry m8
>>61995471Its ok there are people even dumber
>>61995013Punishing people for exceeding goals is communist crabs in a bucket shit.
>>61995580It's not a punishment dipshit. He failed to follow the instructions of the test, instead using it as an opportunity to intentionally and ostentatiously flex his skill. If he wanted to prove how good a shot he was, he could have just shot an incredibly tight group at each range prescribed by the course of fire. He'd have been able to exceed the requirement, while complying with the instructions, and would have passed. A CCW course is designed to demonstrate more than your ability to shoot. It is designed to test your ability to commit, follow through, absorb information, and follow relatively simple requirements. That guy failed.When I did mine, I wanted to shoot it with my black powder revolver, but the course of fire called for 7 rounds making that impractical. So I shot it with my normal pistol to pass, then had a nice conversation with the instructor and we both shot the black powder revolver and it was a nice time all around.Some guy using a certification class to be an aggressive, contrarianism showoff pretty clearly paints him as th kind of person who is maybe not appropriate for CCW. The sort of person who will escalate to pulling a gun because he's desperate for any opportunity to show how much of a bad ass he is. Just shoot a smaller group at the prescribed ranges faggot.
>>61995620imagine listening to a bunch of fags who cant shoot in order to practice your God given rights
>>61995620I cannot imagine what motivated you to type all that
>>61995629Imagine the frustration being a better shooter than the instructor who prattles off an approved power point from the governing body>>61995620While I disagree with his methods, I think that guy was in the right and you are in the wrong.
>>61995629Having a CCW permit is not a god given right. It is, quite literally, a government issued artifact that permits you additional priveliges beyond those guaranteed in the bill of rights and constitution. It allow grants you some reprieves from other requirements, like NICS checks depending on where you live.That guy was just being a faggot.>>61995635I cannot imagine what motivates you to be such a faggot sometimes and so reasonable others. Take your heart meds.
>>61995642>that guy was in the rightHe was in the right for going out of his way to not follow the instructions of the permit class? Please explain.
>>61995647Go to Canada or the UK where you belong.
OFFICER OFFICER THIS MAN IS FLEXING HIS COMPETENCY ON ME HE’S CLEARLY NOT MENTALLY OR EMOTIONALLY PREPARED TO EXERCISE HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTSlol, lmao
>>61995651So you're entirely unable to even explain your own reasoning behind your statement that not following simple instructions, which you agreed to as a prerequisite of passing the class, was in the right?What made him in the right?
>>61995620>>61995635>I cannot imagine what motivated you to type all that
>>61995655The man was willfully being a fuck boy and causing an issue just for the sake of it. There is not one single good reason for him to have done that, considering the presumed reason for him even being there in the first place.You guys are all being retarded like it's a contest, and you wonder why nobody actually respects you.
>>61995645a le "CCW permit" is indeed a government issued piece of paper with some privilege's (depending on state), but that's not what I said. Carrying and using a firearm (concealed or not) is the God given right of every American.
>pff whatever brah that test is too LAME AND GAY for me>I'm making up my own test for REAL MEN>What do you mean I failed I passed my own harder test that I just made up right now!
>>61995681If that's all he wanted, he had no reason to get a CCW permit in the first place. He was there because he wanted the card. He was told how to get the card.Or he could move to a state with no permit CCW.
>>61995670>h-he’s a “fuck boy”yo bro, the tumblr girls called, they want their meaningless insult backI bet you sincerely thought that people would love your made up reddit story about the rude “tactical bro” who didn’t get his CCW because of insolence or whatever. Turns out, nobody gives a shit. You’re a nigger that nobody likes, and you should remember that the next time you think about posting here. Eat shit and die, you midwit, bootlicking faggot.
>>61995645I think it's totally unreasonable to fail the guy because he did something faster and farther than he was instructed. The way anon frames it there were no rules broken, I doubt the instructor said "Do not shoot beyond X yards, do not shoot more than 1 round per second." If the instructor laid down rules and the guy ignored the rules that's one thing, but the instructor let the guy move the target out without saying anything and didn't stop him while blasting. Then failed him afterwards. It's such a petty bitch move, as or more petty than smugly overcompeting in a CCW class full of freshguns.But we're both reacting to a secondhand story with incomplete detail.
>>61995659He, an American hero, protested the gay arbitrary CCW course clearly taught by someone less qualified than he was. He sat there, imprisoned by government bureaucracy to exercise his right to bear arms (something recognized by more than half of the country to be a natural born right, permit less carry is the majority now). He was given a standard, he exceeded it in American excellency, shooting double the distance and faster than anyone else. Here. You a faggot ass loyalist, self disarmed yourself with a black powder revolver, disparage his heroic action. “Oh if he kept his head down and did what he was told he would have passed”, should the founding fathers have kept their heads down and did what they were told by the crown? What about the men and Lexington and Concord? Should have they let down their weapons and surrendered their arms? On the week of the 4th of July you bring this faggot shit into this general? You’re in the wrong thread.
>>61995681>Carrying and using a firearm (concealed or not) is the God given right of every American.Too bad Americans unironically disagree in this day and age. Even the majority of posters ITT disagree with this in practice. Everyone hates freedom. They would rather have security.
>>61995688See this is why i had to eat three weed brownies before showing up. Otherwise i would have died from cringe.
>>61995746Shut the fuck up. Those rights are for Americans, not illegal aliens like you. You have to go back.
>>61995708I made up that story anon (I plan on going in a week and shooting like the old cowboy fudd, I get nervous easily)
>>61995708I'm not the anon who posted the greentext story. I was well aware of everyone being a faggot before I posted. I decided to provide an actual voice of reason so lurkers see it's not all an assmad faggot hugbox. Your incredibly fragile ego and identity here has all the solidity of a paper lantern. Why don't you go eat some more lead, and come back when you're 18. Does your dad know you're using his buzzwords on the internet?>>61995730>I think it's totally unreasonable to fail the guy because he did something faster and farther than he was instructed.Sure, but there's obviously more to it than that. I don't think the speed had anything to do with it. The instructor was probably a cringe annoying fat retard like every CCW instructor I've ever met. The point here is that, qualifying for the permit, based on this story required shooting targets at three different ranges. That's probably how the requirements are hard written into the thing. Some dude just magdumping at one range, even if it's an effective demonstration of shooting ability, doesn't meet the requirements as written. He should probably have been allowed to shoot again. If anything, call it a warmup and shoot it again properly. Trying to show off then not even getting all hits in the zone is pretty gay. CCW instructors agree to follow specific instructions as well, and they don't get a ton of flexibility in this if they want to maintain their dumb authority. It's just like the defensive driving classes you have to take to avoid getting points on your drivers license, they don't care that you can answer the quiz, you still have to watch the video because that's how the requirement is written.
Seriously though I think handguns are incredibly rad.So much engineering and function in something so small and powerful. Strength and malleability. Beauty and ugliness. Life and death. All in the same object.
>>61995743If you unironically belive this is how you best demonstrate and perpetuate the values of American exceptionalism, I weep for its a sorry sign of the age to come. He MISSED bro. He fucking missed. Malicious compliance would have been putting all the rounds through the same ragged hole at each distance, then throwing a fresh target up and doing it again faster and farther. He shit the bed, and you're only on his team because like him, you're a loser. You always clump together.I'm a better human, a better man, and most importantly a better American than you. I will celebrate INDEPENDENCE DAY this week as the founding fathers intended, not your pozzed nigger 'forf of jooly' mockery. July 4th is a date, Independence Day is what we celebrate. Kys scum.
CCW in some states is worse than Europe, what a joke
>>61995620You're more american than these anons I love you sorry my fake story shitpost is getting you in trouble
>>61995800>he thinks American exceptionalism is following the rules as hard as possiblegrim, YWNBAA
>>61995811>defending and associating with a guy that MISSED THE TARGETlmfao
>>61995800YWNBAA
>>61995821Whiter, more American, and better armed than you. Please renounce your citizenship immediately and claim you're a sovcit the next time you're get pulled for driving like a Nissan owner.
>>61995802Cuck old. Post your cuck black powder pistol
>>61995754Ok this is some next level faggotry right here. Americans came to this land very recently. Now they're trying to act like it's some kind of special club. A special club that you can join just by sneaking over the border while pregnant. >you have to go backThen so do you. If i have to go back to EU, then so should you. Only the natives were originally here. Americans acting like they're better than you because they were born in a certain territory is the funniest thing. The country is getting more insane every year, but Americans still have the superiority complex. >I'm an alienYou're a fucking retard
>>61995821Daily reminder that most Mexicans would rather be called a slur than "Latine" or "Latinx" or whatever the fuck perpetually-offended white busybodies decide to call them this month.
obvious bait is obvious
>>61995836Blah blah blah You have to go back. >natives were originally here lol retard. They immigrated too. The actual native humans in the U.S. existed 22k years ago and died off mysteriously
>>61995801This. You unironically can't carry a knife in my state. These retards be like "britbongs this eurocucks that" meanwhile you can't have a knife in your car.
>>61995852Americans shouting "go back to your home country" is hilarious as fuck. USA is a global empire which unironically believes it should rule the world. USA has fought many wars including two world wars to this end. So that USA can have global power. And yet, as soon as USA does take over the majority of the planet, Americans are quick to offer their contempt for everyone who isn't them. It doesn't work that way. Look at UK. That's America's future. You can't turn off the melting pot now. You can't even establish an American national identity because Americans wouldn't even agree on it. >globalists being nationalistI just don't get this
>I'm so hecking anti authority bro, just fitting in with all my fellow internet gun brahs! Read the federalist papers dumb stinky nigger. The actual rational framework for the authority of government is explained there if you're not too illiterate to grasp it. The real values of our founding fathers are excruciatingly discussed and detailed.>>61995802Think about it next time you consider shitposting.
>>61995874I love when an drug addict here illegally tells me about my country
>>61995890I love it how you retards assume I'm here illegally
>>61995896Post passport and guns
>>61995921I will, once i buy something cool. You guys have seen my guns already. I gotta buy something new so you guys finally respect me. I was thinking an m9 to celebrate the fact that i am now a citizen of USA.
>>61995930No you’re not. You’re illegally over staying a visa. Buying guns only through private transfers since you cannot pass a 4473. You’re limited on what you can buy from the market of people willing to sell guns without asking much questions or taking information.
>>61995983The dumb thing is i can show you how wrong you are, but it's probably funnier to just let you all think I'm 10 times the thug I really am. My visa would have expired already, but i have been naturalized so suck my first generation immigrant weener
>>61995930lol don't get too comfy. Trump is throwing your ass out soon.
Where can I get the closest thing to a new in box Colt Manufacture M1911A1 GI issue?
>>61996016Tisa makes a M1911A1 with period correct finish and features. Nobody else really does that.You could buy a Colt brand Colt 1911, it’s not 100% correct but it says Colt.
Gee wizWho could've known /vg/ is full of useless faggotsAlsoSHALLNOT BEINFRINGEDHAPPY JULY 2ND WHEN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WAS DRAFTED 2 MORE DAYS UNTIL AMERICA'S BIRTHDAYGOD BLESS THE USA
>>61996010>looking forward to Stalinist-tier purgesDude no he's not. Nothing like that will ever happen. America is a global empire. If you want to be an American nationalist, you have to get a time machine and change some major shit. You have to go back to a time before every power in charge of USA and the West decided that the only national identity a country has, is actually globohomo. In other words, I think I'll be fine. Trump and his friends, assuming they win, consider me equally American as you. >trump is gonna save youIf you're lucky, he will win 2A victories. But he's not gonna deport everyone you don't like. That's not the game plan.
>>61996027XBOX servers is down, cant do shit
>>61996048Works on my machine (PC master race here)
>>61996027Consoomer: the image
>>61996048Its still down? fuck. Couldn't play cod on break earlier.
>>61996057Still down, I try to setup the WarThunder app right now or I loose my login streak for that shit. I cant open a single game on the SSD, only cucked Netflix
Was bored so decided to checkout a few pawn shops picked this up for $600. How'd I do? I don't a ton about dan wessons.
I've already read the sticky but was wondering if the cz75 sp-01 is a worthwhile pistol or not. I found one at my local pawn shop and am thinking about buying one for my birthday.
>>61996093Sure, it's a service pistol with a service pistol trigger. You can improve it with CGW parts if you want but they shoot fine. Don't overpay, check gun.deals and gunbroker sold auctions before you buy
>>61996080Sexy
>>61996093It's fine.
>>61996102Local pawn shop has it for $659. Comes with case and all. I need a hammer fired gun in my safe.
Liquid propellant powered handgun with combustion chamber and a sparkplug. Bullets will have no case which gives capacity of 35+ for fullsize grips
Hey which CZ is the one that you can't dry fire?
>>61996113That's not enough of a deal to justify the bullying you'll get for getting a CZ instead of a Beretta.
>>61996113It's priced in line with other sold ones I'm eyeing right now, $600-$700 with case and either 1 or 2 mags.
Is the M&P Shield Plus really the best budget CCW option?
>>61996129Any that have a firing pin block. You can remedy this with a CGW part which voids your warranty (who cares) but your trigger return spring still requires replacement every 5k trigger pulls or whatever >>61996139He can post guns. I think it’s a steel frame one too.
>>61996139Funny enough they have a Beretta 8000 cougar next to it.
>>61996147Best is subjective. It's like asking what kind of woman is hottest. >>61996150Which models have the firing pin block?
>>61996156My opinion on women is correct though.
>>61996139>>61996154Faggots are gonna meme no matter what you buy. You shouldn't let faggot memes influence you.
>>61996156Only the shadow 2 and other guns do not have the firing pin block. If there is a visible roll pin on the side of the slide it has the weak firing pin retaining pin that breaks. You can remedy it with snap caps, o rings on the firing pin to prevent damage to it in dry fire
>>61996167Its just a nice solid feeling firearm. I remember seeing the cz tranny memes.
>>61996154What’s the price?
>>61996207$659
May Christ bless you all. Happy 4th and God bless USA. I will go with Christ. See you at summer's end.
>>61996216No, the superior rotating barrel design Beretta Cougar
The gift that keeps on giving.
>>61996243>Let's get that sucker under the microscope and see what's caus--what do you mean you didn't set that specific pistol aside?
>>61996243Kek join the LEGION
Look at the GSSF award sheet has alerted me to the fact that there are Gen 4 Glock 37s. Why?
>>61996284.45 GAP makes perfect sense, dude. Imagine the next time you’re at the range and some boomer says his .45 ACP is more of a chode than your 9mm, and then you bust out the chodemaxxed pancake dick .45 GAP to dunk on him.
>>61996016The re-issue Colt did for the 100th anniversary pops up on auction sometimes. Anyone who got one kept it as a safe queen for sure.
Is the P365xl a decent ccw? I’m looking for something different than my g48. It’s either the nignauer or a Px4
>>61996337I like mine, but idk how different it’ll be versus your G48. They’re pretty similar guns, all things considered.
>>61996147Yes it's the one with the least issues
>>61996337Is there anything you want to know about the P365XL in particular?
>>61996156T H I C C is the right answer.
>>61996380You mean sticc?
>>61996156>>61996380The answer is obvious:Best food. Best guns. Best women.I'm going to be celebrating July 4th with lasagna made by wife from Sardinia while discharging my Benelli Nova in the air
>>61996236Oh, my bad. I think it was $529 if my memory is serving me right.
I want to hear more CCW test/range stories. I like hearing about stereotypes of certain guns and their owners
>>61996388>>61996380I like when they're tough. When they want me to... be rough with them.
>>61996422Anytime there's a Philippine person, they always bring a 1911. And it's almost always a Colt. Also, nerdy-looking dudes tend to be really good shots. That's all I remember noticing.
>>61996394>Best food. Best guns. Best women.Oh, are Austrian cuisine and women that good, too?
>>61995884Think about what nigger I can call you the stupidest shit in the book, and then disappear the next post into anonymous
>>61996460It's definitely not Austria if you're going by guns. All they have are Steyr and Glock for guns. Those are good, but Austrian selection of guns is far too small to be considered the best.
>>61996460I've only been with one Austrian woman in my younger days and she was better than average. Austrian cuisine is nothing to write home about and they have the worst fucking breakfast.
>>61994210I think micro compact generally means thin more than it means small. Like, people consider P365 XL or Hellcat Pro also micro compacts because of this.
Spanish food is really good, but Spanish guns aren't quite as good lol
>>61996531I like paella.
>>61996243Lol I can't believe it happened again. I would love to see footage though.>>61996272Lmao at this point they need to give you a legion code if the P320 shoots you>>61996429Gross, this is a christian mongolian basket weaving forum. Kindly keep it PG.
>>61996531Really? Right in front of my CETME?
>>61996574Doesn't really count if the design was done by Germans.
>>61996574I had to google that thing. It seems based.
NOOOOOOOOIT'S OUT OF STOCK
Making the trip to Muncy to hopefully pick up this little beauty on July 4th in person. https://www.eurooptic.com/beretta-px4-storm-type-f-full-size-9mm-jxf9f21.aspx
>>61996688Meetup in Muncy>3 hoursEh maybe not.
>>61996688>technopolymer
>>61996747I’m about to squeeze out a technopolymer after I’m done with this burrito bowl
>>61996628Better if you just send him your own and pick out what you like. Valued my PX4 at $440 worth of work. You don't need red dot, brake, stippling, bull barrel and other none sense.
>>61996766Pretty sure you could get a CC2, put a LTT trigger bar and flat faced trigger on it, get it optic cut, send the slide, barrel and cam for DLC coating and get the optic for less than this price. The magwell and baseplates are goofy so nevermind that. The light and comp are meh, the comp does work but it will increase the loudness of the gun which you might not want for a carry.
>no stores around me carry any Arex or Grand Power so I don't get a chance to fingerbang one, let alone attempt to shoot itFeels bad, man
>>61996113That's what they go for new.Wait, it's not an omega variant right?
>>61996243>>61996267>>Let's get that sucker under the microscope and seeTime after time (like +90%) it's when the officer is putting the pistol back in the holster.So who/what is to blame?One thing is for sure, there has not been one lab documented case of the pistol going off on its own. Not one. Or even more.The problem is the operator not the tool.
>>61997016Why does this tool go off so much more than any other firearm? Lab testing is lab testing, they can only test what they can think of, they do not test every since possible scenario
>>61996243What is going on with these holsters? Someone should get them fixed.
>>61997016>>61997027There is a whole cottage industry built up around nothing more than trying to take other firearm manufacturers down. That industry also has their own labs and even they have yet to recreate a scenario where the fault is from the firearm and not the user.
>>61997044This cottage industry is also very incompetent and I doubt have any technical expertise in their “labs”
>>61995775Seriously though I think mexicans are incredibly rad.So much work ethic and modelo in something so small and undocumented. Drywall and farm labor. Body work and roofing. Slammed silverados and mariachi music. All in the same beaner.
>>61996422I had a really nice young latino guy in my class as the only other person in attendance for my CCW test/class in Florida. The kid was obviously new to shooting. I think the old fat boomer wanted him to fail, so our test was hitting one of those tiny paper plates like 6"x6" at 7 yards with 3/5 shots from the instructors pistol. We both passed but it seemed a bit overkill as far as competency test are concerned. The kid almost failed but he would have put all his shots decently center on a regular sized target and for sure on an actual persons torso.Pic of a random 10 shot 7 yard group I took awhile ago to show I'm not just bitching because I'm a bad shot.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1056844728Does anyone know if they ever made stainless PX4s without the stainless logo on the slide?
Finally caved and bought some volquartsen parts. Maybe I'll like this thing more than my 89 now. I feel bad only ever taking out the 89 because I know eventually I'll kill the barrel on it.
>>61997174Wait, probably not stainless since the lettering isn’t black. On my real inox PX4s they’re filled in black
>>61997180>kill the barrel>on a 22Unlikely>>61996473About how you, personally, are contributing to the shit quality of dialogue on this website. You're basically a pajeet street shitter pooping on the streets of your own neighborhood if you shitpost.
>>61997246While not likely, I can't get a new one for the 89. If I just shoot lead tips through it I'm sure it will be fine though.
>>61997016It's probably NDs 95%+ of the time. But there are unquestionably units self-firing, it's on video, and nobody seems to be very interested in finding out how or why. Which I find very peculiar.>>61997174It's possible they did, who can say really. But the burning of the laser blackens the slide. Logos are not the same color as the rest of the slide. That slide was was painted, whether the word stainless is on it or not
>>61997271I seriously doubt that any .22LR gun in history has ever had its barrel shot out, even American 180s that exist for the sole purpose of 1800 RPM magdumps into trash.
Curtis from Cutting Edge Engineering lost his teeth wtf machinebros
>>61997280God I love how crisp the Beretta text and logo is on the stainless PX4s. I need more of them
>>61997296You’re not a good machinist until you’re missing teeth, it’s some sort of blood pact with the tooth fairy
>>61992520>pic>3200kg trigger pullJUST LIKE IN MY DREAMS!
>>61997280Retards will say you deny the ND issue, let this be on record. I'm also super curious. I've seen issues like this at scale. Literally nobody except some unfortunate retard has an app that decides to crash. You can't reproduce it or figure out why it would happen, it shouldn't be happening.>>61997286That's reassuring, thanks anon. I love this lil nigga. I've been meaning to upgrade my guns for a while and the MKIV has been in that list, so even if it's not saving the 89 at least it will be more fun to take out.
>>61997313>Literally nobody except some unfortunate retard has an app that decides to crash. You can't reproduce it or figure out why it would happen, it shouldn't be happening.Literally me every dayWe've had this conversation. I hate lazy programmers that pass the buck or just lock out features or accessibility because they can't or won't program for shit. I just had another one of these stupid niggling issues this week; Whatsapp in the browser stopped working, but only in Chrome. Works in FF. I tried changing user agents, tried private, tried deleting cookies, reset my IP. Then for no reason a week later it works again. I changed NOTHING, I haven't even restarted (only plebs shut down). The ghost in the machine just decided to stop having a tantrum. loltechnologyThe P320 is different though because it's mechanical not magical (the way coded bits make billions of atom sized switches change paths and that somehow does math is literally incomprehensible magic). There IS a reason P320s are firing in holsters, but not one single department, person, lawyer or corporation has invested a minute to figure out why. Mechanisms are child's play compared to programming or circuitry. It SHOULD be easy to wiggle, wrest and whack a P320 until it goes click. But nope.
>>61997350It took the FAA years to figure out how the hydraulics of a 737 rudder could suddenly reverse the polarity despite it causing 3 crashes killing hundreds.
>>61997350Yeah very true. Actually a lot of computer issues are just from random errors that ended up not being corrected. Silicon isn't perfect, especially not memory. Stray radiation can just flip bits and fuck shit up. With billions of computers running constantly, it's bound to happen. Add on top of that the fact that people overclock and it's a done deal. In those states, machine code that doesn't have a failure point just randomly fails.Anyways, yeah mechanisms are much more simple. It's really fucking weird, and I don't trust sig to be forthcoming about this. I've even spoken to boomers who were happy with the "voluntary recall" bullshit lmao. Where are the patch notes????>only plebs shut downAmen. Eventually drivers get me though.
>>61997363Government efficiency + Boeing doing pic related to preserve income? I guess corporations, departments, lawyers and NDing cops are largely doing the same>>61997381Whoops I've been overclocked forever lol my CPU has been at ~127% clock speed since 2010
>>61994845>bro you don't understand, I need to put a dot on my carry gun to shoot a crackhead 10 feet away from me, I use a 20 round mag and carry 4 reloads just in case I get attacked by the entire US Marine corps
>>61997435Never forget, Burt, they put a lot of effort into keeping shit out of the press. For every instance you hear about it, there are more that you don't. For every lawsuit we hear the outcome of, there were more that settled out of court and never saw headlines. Ruger at one time was averaging over one lawsuit weekly relating to the Blackhawk without catching bad press, we'd never have known at all were it not for investigative journalists over a decade later.
>>61997435Only happens when it's an unstable OC. ie not enough voltage.Re Boeing, I would say they're trying to be in the same league as Sig. It reeks of central banking.
>>61997451t. Someone who isn’t prepared for a running gun battle with 5+ assailants with IIIA body armor
>>61997451>picI don't want to be GAY do I get a revolver or what as my next pistol?
>>61997451It's okay, Uncle Ben says you can target focus with your backup irons, toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemjHKi6KlA
>>61997451What's preventing you from point shooting a pistol that has a dot sight?
>>61997494Skill
>>61997476A colt police positive
>>61997476Something like a Glock or Beretta that says you care as little about men's opinions as you do about women's.
>>61997451I am literally better than John Wick
>>61994221>filtered by a snub-nosed revolver Shoot more, post less.
