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>hegseth cocksucking thread >>>/pol/
posting in epic bread
>>64861937Joining the military is a bad idea if it's your ONLY plan. It's a fine experience to have or maybe even a good career option depending on the job and how you mesh with it (some cunts just do thrive as infantry) but if you put all your eggs on it with no back-up education or options you're a retard
Do the VA appointments ever slow down? I want to actually enjoy my 100% instead of having to go to multiple appointments every day.
>>64861937Yeah, cuz they’re the only two dudes retarded enough to post their DD-214s onto a hentai imageboard.
>getting paid in military funbux you can only spend on basefuck this shit
>>64862457>Except that's what has been happening.
There's no point in these dumbass threads existing 'cause you can just look this all up.
>>64862549I ask here because it’s hard to distinguish what is and isn’t recruiter slop
I just read this:>Soldiers in Hawaii may ‘double up’ in barracks for the next 15 months>“I would love to be able to tell you that 15 months from now, we won’t have to have any soldiers doubled up in our barracks, but the reality of the situation is we likely will,” Sullivan said. “Right now, we are tracking more than 690 soldiers that are inbound over and above our outbounds in the next 120 days. We’ll still have many of those soldiers as over and above our number of barracks rooms, even 15 months from now.”My shipdate (unless someone else took the slot) is a month out and my AIT is 9 months (35T). All in all, I'm still a year out from actually doing my job as I understand it.I was going to do Option 19 for Hawaii, now I'm not so sure.I read reviews on Hots&Cots and the problems Schofield Barracks has are insane.But I read redditfags and they say the same barracks are fine and they spend a lot of time in the field so you wont even be there most of the time.I'm about to go sign my contract next meeting with my recruiter. Do I keep my plans or choose a different base?
>>64862549The internet will tell you that being Security Forces is like special forces for the Air Force and that if you lie about your inhaler from middle school, you’ll go to prison.
>>64862662They still give you slop here.
>>64862673The internet will also tell you that they can't DQ you before you go to MEPS.>INB4 B-BUT EVERY MEPS HAVE THE SAME POLICIES!!!Well, they obviously don't. And if they're supposed to, then they should've told me who I can report them to for breaking regulation instead of seething and making shit up.
>>64862549So why are you still posting here?
>>64862918Oh hell yeah, I can tell
>>64862990Oh, did I offend you and your precious forum?...Why are YOU here, Robert?
>>64863033Who the fuck is Robert? Again, why are you posting here?
>>64863039Because you are retarded.
>>64863051Are you ragebaiting yourself?
ETN1 Shitass, back at it. Answering Nuke/Navy questions. For context; I was on an aircraft carrier, so my submarine knowledge is limited, but I know some. I went on 2 deployments for a cumulative time of 28/48 months underway on my last boat. I'm E-7 eligible at 6 years TIS.
>>64863172I'm not samefagging if that's what you're asking.
Army infantry officer. Not a recruiter. I can answer questions about ROTC, airborne, ranger school, officer life, general army stuff or whatever.
>>64863337lets say im in RASP 1 and want to order some supplements from amazon, magneisum vitamin d whatever, can i do that? do they allow you to order stuff?
>>64863431I never went to RASP, just ranger school. But I don't see why you couldn't have your mom mail you supplements or whatever. Whether the cadre will let you keep them is another story.
>>64863270Ok ETN1 I got a questionI just got my package put in for BDCP, for the February 27th Supply Board. About half the reason I chose Navy is because the BDCP program is just too good, getting 2 years of E-4 to E-6 pay with BAS and BAH for going to university helps my financial situation like crazy. I hear naval officers are treated better than enlisted but is it even decent outside that arrangement? Like I see enlisted Air Force get better housing than the sleeping situation is on ships for junior officers and the food even seems better for them. Deployments still seem very long and frequent compared to other branches, etc. Am I fucking myself just for the short term benefit of pay in university?
>>64863498The best food/service on the boat is in the CPO mess. This is because the CPOs poach the best CSs to make their food, their food is generally pulled out of storage first, so it's fresher, and their dining facilities are the cleanest and largest. Officers have nice ward rooms, and their meals are made to order, but unlike dirty-smellies (E-6 and below), they have to pay for their food directly, whereas I receive BAS (basic allowance for sustenance, ~$450/month). Officers have FAR more living space. In my berthing, it was about 90 people in probably 600 ft sq. Officers get a stateroom with at most 3 roomates (4 people total) in probably 400 sqft. My rack was a 6ft by 2ft by 2ft box, which i had to lift to access everything I owned. Officers get the same lifting rack, but they can sit up in it. They also have standing lockers/closets. The QOL improvement from dirty-smelly to senior enlisted is small; slightly larger racks, fewer people in the same size space, but E-9 to O-1 is a HUGE jump. Being a Naval officer, especially a useless one like a supply officer, is a cake walk and genuinely a good deal. Get your degree on uncle Sam's dime, and then do your very best over the preceding years to not lose parts/fail to feed the ship. This is apparently very hard to do given my interaction with supply. If you're gonna be a supply officer, ensure you familiarize yourself with AAVE/Ebonics and counseling chits/page 13s/PIO packages.Both of my deployments were scheduled for 6 months, both got extended numerous times, in between deployments we went on countless underways. Some were 24 hours, some were a month. Don't join the Navy to be a perma-shore tour loser. Join the Navy, see the world is true. But it comes at a price. I've been to Greece 5 times, Italy 3 times, France twice, Spain, Norway, and Croatia. The price was grueling watches and a long time without contact with my family.
>>64863631My primary question was comparing Navy O to Air Force E. Besides the pay, Air Force E looks like they have it better than Navy O's. What's that about Ebonics?
Is it true that recruiting is booming right now? I haven't started the process but I'm concerned I may not get a good job if the headlines are true.
>reposted from last threadActive duty intel nerd here. I'm retarded and have decided to go to SFAS. I leave in October. Any advice or tips?Current I score about 490 on the AFT, deadlift 4pl8, bench 205, and run a 38 minute 5 mile. My last timed ruck was 8 miles in 1:39 with 35lbs dry. I'm 5'8" and 150lbs.
>>64863821Yeah, it has been booming since 2024 and it finally got to the point they filled gaps left by the COVID19 era so there's less on the table and waivers are drying up, lot more waiting around in DEP.Depends entirely on branch. Navy has been on/off doing this gay thing where they lock the desirable rates until the shitty ones get filled. Air Force still does pick 10 jobs (and a few have to be shitty ones) and they will give you the first one that opens up. Army will work with you more but you may have to wait around awhile. Coast Guard will work with you but your wait might be over a year and you'll have to go through a process to extend if you want to keep waiting. Marines are doing what they have always done because they never had an issue with recruiting
>>64862938>>64862662>>64863033>>64863051>>64863280UH OOOOOHHHHHHROOOOBBEERRRRRTTTTT!!!!MEEELLLTTTYYYYYY!!!!POOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.I can also interpret medical DQ concerns. Give me a day or two to respond, likely. >branch, condition, meds, etcetera. >t. unironically Dr. Schlomo come May
>>64864031-Can they DQ you before you go to MEPS?-If I went to a MEPS that didn't happen to serve one of the biggest metropolitan areas of the country, would they have had the time to at least give me a physical and an interview? (I was told they aren't even considering people who need a waiver right now because they are swamped.)-Can I just get a mental health assessment done that'll pass as a waiver since the doctors who diagnosed me with psychotic behavior weren't my regular healthcare providers (i.e., emergency room staff and mental health facility staff), and so I don't have to track down these obscure people who I would probably need to sue otherwise?-There are conflicting sources in regards to what is waivable and unwaivable. If what is on my record is unwaivable, then why are my recruiters apparently wasting their time with me telling me to get doctor's notes instead of telling me to "STFU and get out!"?-Would I need to wait five years (as told by recruiters) from any diagnosis of psychosis for MEPS to consider me again if all else fails?
>>64864144Shut the fuck up Robert.
>>64864031>>64864144*And I would be joining the Army. They also mentioned the medications I was on in the past made them iffy, but they didn't reference anything specific. But I used to take shit like Mirtazapine, Sertraline, Olanzapine, Adderall, Bupropion, Hydroxyzine, Aripiprazole, Trazodone, and Methylphenidate.I'm not on anything currently, though.
>>64864147How original! :D
>>64864031>>64864144>>64864159**anxiety, depression, Autism, and ADHD, was also in my history.
>>64864144>>64864159>>64864174Have you tried getting a real job yet?If you are DQ'd and the situation is unsalvageable go get a real job.Or if you are Robert, alternatively, come up with a better story because this one was already debunked last thread.
>But I used to take shit like Mirtazapine, Sertraline, Olanzapine, Adderall, Bupropion, Hydroxyzine, Aripiprazole, Trazodone, and Methylphenidate.An entire pharmacy of meds that you say you don't need.I understand why your recruiters think you are lying. Because you probably are.Now fuck off, schizo.
>>64864031do not respond to >>64864144 >>64864159 >>64864174Not worth your time. Was debunked last thread: >>64845887>>64845918>>64846530>>64846546Its fucking robert.Look how he even gets mad ITT about being called robert: >>64864163And look at how he calls himself by his pet name: >>64863039
>>64848535This post kills Robert.His entire fake story ITT debunked in one post.
>>64864177What if I already have a job I want to quit in favor of the military? But spouting sentence fragments and untrue information doesn't count as "debunking".If they can't DQ you before MEPS, then can you tell me who I can report these people to for apparently breaking regulation, which is also apparently supposed to be consistent everywhere without any variation from locale?>>64864181I don't say I don't need it, they took me off of everything.>I understand why your recruiters think you are lying. Because you probably are.Do you really think they can't see when my last prescription was filled? The recruiters don't seem to think I'm lying, but I don't know what MEPS thinks since my first recruiter didn't want to fill out anything on my medical prescreening form, I guess expecting MEPS to not crosscheck it. But I was told even if he had filled it out properly, MEPS would've DQ'd me without even scheduling a physical anyway.
FYIWe are done speaking about your fake gay story. Kill yourself Robert. Kill yourself.
>>64864200>>64864204Imagine being worse than Robert...Or worse altogether, being Robert himself and projecting his robertness!... I can just feel you seething behind your screen over nothing, Rob.
This is actually just sad
>>64864226I think that just means you're the only person who's delusional enough to think everyone is Robert.>gets asked how to report MEPS personnel for breaking regulation>doesn't answer the question and exclaims "gay and fake">somehow hasn't been banned for spamming
>>64864238>>64864204>Try to give advice to nigger robert (clueless)>he argues with you "B-But it doesn't work like that, drill senpai baka!!!!">What do you mean it doesn't work?>"you are wrong and google search says so">So do you want help or not?>" " It's Robert. He's trying to bait (You)'s " ">"NO!!! ITS NOT ROBERT --- I mean --- you think I'm trying hard, senpaisan?">So you were Robert the whole time...>"B-b-but muh AR 601-210 4-23!!!!! DONT U HAVE THE ENTIRE RECRUITING REGULATION MEMORIZED??? ARE YOU EVEN A RECRUITER??? POST RANK!!!!">Dumbass Robert still thinks everyone ITT that isnt him is a recruiter>"Ok how do I make my LARP more believable?"*posts get unceremoniously wiped soon after*
>>64864251he's going to pretend this never happened also.
>>64864251Nevermind, you are clearly THE actual Robert. And if you weren't (which you definitely are), then that would be even more sad, because that means Robert has won something over you.>>64864255I believe that's called "corruption of authority".
>>64864262Complaining about the jannies?Wouldn't be your first time.
>>64864031is having high blood pressure disqualifying if you take medication for it? assuming everything else is good to go and healthy overall
>>64864196>AgainBan evasion.
>>64864265You're the one being racist which isn't allowed outside of /b/.
>>64864274Atleast I'm not a zigger
hey Guys I am about to join the National Guard as 91F cuz that is the only job as a gunsmith at the moment, while getting my degree. What advice can y'all give me for this MOS?
>>64864204We've been over this already, they literally can >>64853662Claiming the other person was using different search terms doesn't hold up when nobody said what search terms were used. You are obviously Robert, because no one else is this arrogant.
What does a 3D0X2 do all day? And will I be able to access cool spy shit like Snowden
>>64864343robert
>>64863270I’m graduating college this semester, and doing NUPOC. I submarine volunteered. How will my time be?
>two US navy ships have collided during refuellinghow embarrassing
>>64864322Expect to do the same weapons services and repairs all day every day. I hope you're not lazy because you will likely be the only 91F in your battalion. At least your leadership will protect you at all costs because you're the only thing keeping their equipment readiness together.
>>64862438Not my problem. Make better life choices.
>>64864491Are you surprised? What >>64863826 or>>64863270 won't tell you is that you will be surrounded by retards and cutthroat workaholics in a 4 to 1 ratio. Further, the higher up you go the worse the fuckfuck games get and the more you realize you are just babysitting other people so they don't fucking kill themselves. The Navy has an important role, but don't think for a second it isn't powered by people with a double digit IQ. For those of you still in, enjoy your topside pres for INSURV. "Once for dust twice for rust" amirite? Noting like 12 hours in the sun so your raging alcoholic (or deadbeat) captain might get a promotion.Side note: I weep for CMCs and COBs. It's a revolving door of fuckjobs and convicts they're in charge of propping up and making sure leadership doesn't get fired.
>>64864419You'll be useless and generally bullied until you qualify fish (SS) as that qual functionally shows you know your asshole from your elbow during a fire/flooding/emergency and could save the sub (and subsequently everyone's lives). Every sub officer is at some point a nuke as far as I'm aware. Very close knit community. Generally for nukes the line between officers and enlisted is very blurred, especially so on submarines. I have buddies from the pipeline who go to the bar with your CO most weekends. Sub life is hard, dark, and shitty, but, very prestigious. Submariners get to take special liberties, like growing beards underway, wearing sneakers on the boat, shit like that. If you go to a submarine, your only goal in life is to qualify fish, and then qualify your nuclear watches. You're useless until you do. Listen to your chief and always listen to your Reactor Operator. You got some frilly little degree and do the easiest nuclear qual, but because you have a degree you're in charge. Your chief and Reactor Operator spent 2 years training and then several years doing specifically this job, they do the maintenance on the systems, and they will ALWAYS know it better than you. You'll get a very small stateroom, which is better than the dirty-smellies who often have to 'hot rack', where they share portions of 1 rack and literally get into it as son as the other guy gets out,
>>64864907big true. The navy actively recruits gangabangers and morons in both the officer and enlisted house. In general thees a huge gang culture about the lower enlisted.The average sailor has a room temperature IQ. It's the biggest reason nukes keep to themselves, as every community is already highly tribalistic, and when the people outside your community are habitual line cutters, maintenance blzaers (gun decking in the rest of the navy), loud, playing their music on their phone speaker EVERYWHERE, theifs (the navy accounts for an 18% loss on supply from theft), hommie-hook up culture enthusiast etc, it can be incredibly draining. In the nuclear community, if you have a sub-90 ASVAB, even you're on probation. It isn't that we all think we're smart, we think they're all dumb, just like daddy Rickover said to that dumb interviewer.
>>64864943>It's the biggest reason nukes keep to themselvesHow very proud you are of the push-button promote pedophile rate. Nukes are not above and beyond the flaws of the fleet, rather they are simply social outcasts who possess roles with more math. Nukes flush things they shouldn't down the head just like any CS. They're not special nor unique.
>>64864267Current or medically-managed hypertension is a disqualifying diagnosis. If you wish to serve, you need to become lifestyle controlled. Eat healthier, start exercising, stop drinking, stop smoking or using nicotine in other ways. Talk to your doctor and tell them directly you want to control it without meds and tell them why, they will work with you. I do not recommend just stopping your meds without that conversation first.A good resource is the DASH diet. Look it up, start using it. This is not medical advice, I am not your doctor.
>>64864943uhh huh. and what happens when a nuke's barracks is inspected? cum jars resulting in mandatory training followed by a health and comfort.
What do you do in this situation?
>>64864031i told my recruiter that i had depression in mychart from a few years back and he said thats no big deal. he didnt even put in the meps packet.
>>64865166its over(for the guy that left it there)full stop
>>64865247Was this before or after Genesis?
>>64864898>t. Nonserve neckbeard
>>64865321still havent been to meps yet
>>64865357You didn't answer the question, but I take it it hasn't been more than 4 years ago, otherwise you would've mentioned something, right?
>>64865357>I take it it hasn't been more than 4 years ago, otherwise you would've mentioned something, rightyea this is happening now(as in this month)meps is in 1-2 weeks
>>64865501what's meps?
>>64865521its venereal disease
>>64865521Stfu, Robert.
>>64865521>>64865534Samefagging
>>64865554"GUYS, where's our missing supply?!?!?1">I wouldn't worry about it..."Oh, okay."
>>64865554>>64865564Robert, you deserve to be executed without trial, and DD'd post mortem instead of being thrown back out onto the streets. You are so fucking worthless, you deserve to have your citizenship revoked!!
>>64865570How does Robert eat? How does he pay rent? He clearly doesn’t work a job because he spends all day looking up obscure bullshit about the military so he can post it here in the middle of the night. Who is bankrolling his schizo tirades to like 7 people? Rob is convinced everyone here is a recruiter paid to post here, but who is paying Robert to post here?
How often will I deploy if I join an airborne unit?
>>64865646never
>>64865606He's probably too retarded to work, so he collects disability.>but who is paying Robert to post here?Someone who doesn't deserve to exist either.
>>64865696Nobody has the right to decide whether or not someone gets to live or die. Only an insane monster would think that's acceptable lol. Imagine thinking you're God and should get power over life and death itself lmao
>>64865646Unironically never because we're not in a war.You will get training deployments and time in the field though. Not the same thing.
>>64865606Just like the jannies, he does it for free.
>>64865706NTA, you doesn't deserve to exist.
>>64865772>you doesn't
>>64865777I replaced the name "robert" with you and didn't proof read.
>>64865706>Nobody has the right to decide whether or not someone gets to live or die. Only an insane monster would think that's acceptable lol.
>>64865696>He's probably too retarded to work, so he collects disability.You don’t just get handed disability as a civilian. Robert was apparently not retarded enough to pass MEPS (a decade ago, but still), so I doubt he’s retarded enough to get civilian disability. I highly doubt he’s on VA disability with a BCD after like 7 weeks in the military.This is a genuinely serious question. How does Robert pay his bills? He clearly has Wi-Fi. Does he live with his parents? Do his parents never ask why he spends hours on his laptop every day/night doing nothing?As someone who busts their ass everyday to keep the lights on, I don’t understand how people like Robert don’t starve to death. Sometimes life feels like there really is zero safety net, so how do some people ride the net for 8 years?
>>64865794What do you do for a living?
>>64865800HVAC
>>64865808House Vn-American Activities Committee
>>64865794Disability isn't enough to live off of in most of the country. If you live in a roach infested shitbox in the desert it barely covers rent.Someone else is paying for him, obviously.The little shit can't adult.Last thread he was blatantly lying about getting 60k a year from the Pell Grant + scholarships: >>64860757 >>64860860Wrong for so many reasons, not to mention that Pell eventually runs out and scholarships don't usually cover your entire tuition and are insanely competitive.He was caught red handed in his lie and still kept going.Just like this thread.Now look at this retard post insanely low quality slop replies at you because he thinks you are a recruiter lying about your profession: >>64865800 >>64865815
>>64865787>loser supports the mass murder of women and children >loser larps as a harmless Christian, crying that people don't like him
>>64865822We all know he works for the Chinese government. He admitted it a few months ago.
>>64865835>implying the chinks would employ a schizo retard like Robert.They would as repulsed by him as we are.
>>64865862Maybe it was the Russians. He definitely has foreign backing, probably a part of a whole network of shills and bots on here. He might not even be American.
>>64863270Hey ETN1 I was tow guy from last thread, how slim of a chance do I have at making AT given I study for the ASVAB and do well?Did some research and decided that or 1A1X3 in air force are my goal assignments (I like planes)
>>64865794>You don’t just get handed disability as a civilian.Yes you do, my father is on disability for being a cripple.>Robert was apparently not retarded enough to pass MEPSI thought he was an active service member who got dishonorably discharged for saying he wanted to slaughter Afghan women and children? Get your goddamn story straight, people!
>>64865832>loser larps as a harmless Christian, crying that people don't like himI've known pathetic dumbasses like this, they are the most insufferable people you'll ever meet.
>>64865914>tow guy
>>64865927Fuck lol I wish, no I'm the guy that takes H1Bs off of the highway after they smack their tesla into the center divide
>I'm Robert, AMA
>>64865919>Yes you do, my father is on disability for being a cripple.Your father is actually disabled and basically had to prove it in court you fucking retard.>I thought he was an active service member who got dishonorably discharged for saying he wanted to slaughter Afghan women and children?It was a Bad Conduct Discharge in basic training or AIT. He never even made it to his first duty station.>Get your goddamn story straight, people!Okay, so this is just Robert baiting a reaction by pretending to not know his own life story. Here’s your (You). This (You) and $5 will buy you a cup of coffee.
>>64865925>I've known pathetic dumbasses like this, they are the most insufferable people you'll ever meet.Persecuted Christian is the final form of the middle-aged, divorced loser that’s never accomplished anything in his lifeNot regular Christians. Those people are cool The dudes who pretend society hates them because they have a religious tattoo and pretend they go to church on Sunday but theyve skipped it the last 9 weeks Usually live in Arkansas and are surrounded by people who 96% agree with their opinions, but, in their mind, that 4% makes them a badass outcast
How scared should I be of SARC? Whenever I'm around a military female, I immediately clench my jaw and growl as much as possible. I also avoid talking to them. If there's something off about me (i.e contacts in wrong, eyes are strained) I double down and don't even look in their direction.I'm somewhat handsome given the right conditions as well so if a military female is looking at me, I also clench my jaw and look away.
>>64865982Start hitting yourself in the face with hammers.
>>64865984A big one for me is if I'm contacts are in wrong or they're dry and my eyes are strained, of course my gaze is going to be a bit funky. When this happens I do or die show aggression and evasion towards military females so I don't get SARC'd.I'm being unironic here.
>>64865992I don't know what SARC means.
>>64866013SHARP, SARC, etc.
>>64866013https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Amphibious_Reconnaissance_CorpsmanBadass job to shoot for>As of 2016, a male or female hospital corpsman serving in the paygrades of E-1 (hospitalman recruit) to E-6 (petty officer first class) serving in any capacity may apply for candidacy. It is not required to be currently serving with a Fleet Marine unit to apply. Sailors currently attending Hospital Corpsman "A" School may enter the pipeline immediately without first serving time in the fleet by enrolling in the Special Operations Corpsman Program (SOCP), currently held at HM "A" School. This course is designed to prepare sailors for the lifestyle and training required of candidates applying for SARC, Dive Medical Technician (DMT), and Search-and-Rescue (SAR) programs.
>>64866019I've never been in the military. Explain.
>>64865937>Your father is actually disabled and basically had to prove it in court you fucking retard.No fucking shit, Sherlock! But he's a civilian and he got it, so what the heck did you mean? They don't just give that shit to you in the military either!
>>64865937>Okay, so this is just Robert baiting a reaction by pretending to not know his own life story. Here’s your (You). This (You) and $5 will buy you a cup of coffee.Woah... guys, this is getting meta...
>>64866029Sexual assault and harassment prevention and remedy programsThe army especially has some elements of rape. I've known people first hand who have committed rape, and as such, rightfully got SARC'd. I've never heard of anyone whose been SARC'd over the fears I described in my original post, but because the military is rapey, their prevention and remedy programs are of course very strict. Which in theory, in my mind, could be a double edged sword and because my personality is more of the 'i don't want any problems' type I follow through with what I mentioned earlier.Further fear of mine is driven by how at least in the junior enlisted ranks, females are young, given a lot of male attention, and often from poorer backgrounds so they easily associate all males with sex, and sex often pops up on their mind.
>>64866046>They don't just give that shit to you in the military either!Neverserve spotted
>>64866140It's called "Robert", retard.
>>64866140What kind of fucked up fetish crap am I looking at?
>>64866151It's from The Files
>>64866157Oh, that makes sense.
>>64866090Wait, is sex assault so common there is an entire department dedicated to it?
>>64866090>>64866281Half the time they don't even do anything about SA or rape.
Robert sliding his own thread because he wants /meg/ deleted but keeps making new threads has to be the most turboretarded activity I have ever seen somebody do on a blue board.
>>64865247Cool, refer to image and if it doesnt fit you're golden. Similar applies to anxiety disorders. If you have any other psychiatric diagnosis like schizoaffective, bipolar, personality disorders there are hoops to jump through or you're fucked. Documented suicidality = fucked. Documented hospitalization is difficult.
>>64867289>Documented suicidality = fucked.Somehow not as much as you would think.
>>64867289hmmm. so the documented depression is over 3 years ago problem is that about 6 months later i got a adhd diagnosis and on it, also listed depression but it was never documented anywhere besides the original diagnosis documentshow deep are going to look?
>>64867355>how deep are going to look?Not him, but I feel like I don't even know my entire medical history. I still wonder what ended up making it into Genesis, they don't even have to tell you what they diagnose you with.
>>64861646Who the fuck would join the military and get paid shit to live a shit life? I just got a comfy cop job starting at 115k and they'll hire anyone.
>>64867476Even psychotically depressed, suicidal, Autistic retards with ADHD? My medical history is fucked, and I've practically had the whole pharmacy of medications at this point. Honestly, I think half my doctors didn't know what the fuck they were doing.Where are you at? I've thought about becoming a cop in some rural-ass town, but they probably don't pay as well. Maybe even joining ICE, if I wanted to ruin my reputation for life; it seems they'll hire anyone, lol.
>>64867619>the ocean is full of pissBased
>>64867476Prove it
>>64867626Rural area in California. The state pays government employees very well and my county has to be competitive with high budget city PDs. I have a good amount of experience though so got hired on at a higher rate.If any of your issues are recorded I wouldn't go for it. You wouldn't be a good fit and would likely get weeded out early. Probably shouldn't go military either. ICE maybe, go nuts for the next 2-3 years before the next fraudulently elected Democrat fires half the agency.
>>64867763>If any of your issues are recorded I wouldn't go for it. You wouldn't be a good fit and would likely get weeded out early. Probably shouldn't go military either.Never know unless you try, I guess. They just have to hire me, and it's not like I'm gonna do anything stupid--anyone can say that, but if you show them you don't have issues anymore you will be more valuable to them, and they'll be more likely to defend you if you have a good standing with them. It's just annoying, cause in this situation nobody knows you, so why should they bother trying to help some random Joe Shmoe get in...
>>64867781You should probably work in a jail but not out on the street, benefits are typically just as good. If you're a fuckup people can see it. But if they're desperate and still hire you, understand that police are in a fish bowl and your actions are under heavy scrutiny, not to mention personal liability for your actions which are already iffy. Desperate agencies don't even pay well anyway, risk may not be worth the reward.
>>64867820You're only a fuckup if you're being a fuckup. Imagine growing up in an abusive home, attending shitty schools that couldn't recognize signs of abuse, and essentially being deluded into thinking "Oh, your family isn't terrible, you're just beautifully imperfect". I was too ignorant to know how to move out, no one wanted to help me get away. I was the only person in the household that wanted family therapy, no one wanted to help us.These issues don't affect me now, but people can't just let the past go, and that's the biggest problem I have to deal with. Under these circumstances, one would just have to try real hard to not be an idiot, because then people will just use literally anything from your past to scrutinize you, even if all that did was harden you. I see this shit all the time, and it really begs the question of who's worse.>INB4 "Answer: Robert is! XD"
>>64867820>>64867879Lol, someone even tried to tell me when they diagnosed me with Autism as an adult that having more problems interacting with family members whom you live with than with people in public is a symptom of Autism...Real good listener there, amirite?... Just like the person who told me that my blood pressure being above 130/80 wasn't considered high blood pressure, before going on a tangent saying that used to be considered high but then "they changed it". But I guess she must've not known what country we live in, because at the time 130/80 was and still is considered high. Both these people were medical professionals, and somehow that isn't even the worst I've seen. These people make it seem like you can do anything no matter how dumb you are if you don't have a fucked up past.
>>64867914You blame your parents but you're a culmination of nature and nurture. You have trash genes and can't escape that. You will have bad behavioral traits forever because your brain is wired like shit, your children will have the same problems, and they'll be exacerbated if you treat them like shit due to your shitty behavioral traits.130/80 is normal. I clock 130/80 if I walk across the room and sit down or the nurse is hot and I'm nervous. 120/80 is sitting down relaxed. You're probably just sperging out due to the person taking your BP. Why would you even bring up such a minor thing? Please don't join the military or apply for ICE or own a gun. Your brain is messed up.
>>64868031>You blame your parents but you're a culmination of nature and nurture.Can you tell me what the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is? (Nevermind the fact that these terms are used interchangeably [often incorrectly so], and everyone likes to argue that they are, and say they're different as if to seem somehow smarter.) So why couldn't I get the good genes, but succumb to shitty nurture? It's eugenics at its finest, I guess. Where is the line drawn anyway? Welp, I guess that's what happens when your family left Ukraine during WW2 and has been running from Nazis and the Soviets their entire upbringing: You get a bunch of shitty delusional people. And somehow I'm bad for trying to break the cycle of being another idiot.>130/80 is normal.No it isn't! Why don't you look up what the American Heart Association says, dumbass?! I don't care that they lowered the HBP threshold from 140/90; when you have a dumbass medical "professional" saying 130/80 "used to be high, but they changed it", then that is a problem.And no, it wasn't Opposite Day. They literally lowered it (not raised it), and she couldn't tell her ass from her elbow. She couldn't even parrot the simplest shit from the people who set the standards. She was making shit up. (And nevermind the fact that it was above 130/80 at rest and was consistent like that for awhile, I was even angrier back then.) It is literally Stage 1 Hypertension, and I was only bringing my concerns up, especially because they say early intervention is essential to preventing further issues.At least they never actually diagnosed me with Hypertension, or else that would be another ingredient in the shit pie. 130/80 is not normal anymore, and wasn't when this was addressed; end of story.
I got meps in 4 days. What's it like?
>>64868394Boring. Bring a book because the wait between tests almost put me to sleep
>>64868394A lot of sitting around and waiting for other people. Some bozo is likely to piss themselves on the blood draw and make you wait longer. The medical test is overblown by closet homos who think being naked in front of a burnt out doctor is something remarkable. Don't be the retard that works out too hard at the hotel to try and impress the girls you'll never see again and be too sore to move properly. Avoid the edgelord who will try to find someone to latch onto, they will not leave you alone if you catch their attention.
>>64861646>be me>27 years old>join army>sign up for 68W MOS>be already EMT certified with years experience working on ambulance and clinical xp in trauma centers>imgonnabethebest.wav>start inquiring about special forces>map out epic military plan>baby is born 2 days before i ship for basic>leave for basic anyways because fuck it i made a promise and signed the dotted line>get there>get immediately injured and looks like im gonna recycle >oh well fuck guess its gonna be a while of me in basic>turns out wife had extreme birth complications>they send me home>im not in the military anymore>im back in a level one trauma >tfw combat medics hardly ever even see real trauma>tfw most combat medics grind for years doing basic assessment and bullshit diagnosis of,"oh you have le runners knee!!" and dont practice real medicine>mfw i constantly see brutal shit on the regular and learn real clinical trauma skills every single day i clock infuck the military just do calisthenics and hike with a 60 pound ruck every couple weeks and youre basically a soldier. thats more than even the taliban trained to kick the entire US military's ass.
>>64868606I'm confused about how you being the guy who leaves his wife alone with a newborn baby and then you getting injured in basic and sent home has anything to do with the military. It sounds like everything was your fault in this, especially thinking you'd be doing shit with the green berets.
>>64868620it was my fault to leave, however the misconception especially in medicine comes from expecting to get the highest level of training in the army when it comes to EMS and trauma experience when i had to fuck around and find thats not true. also dont misunderstand me, i have the utmost respect for people in uniform who perform on that level, just seeing sgts who are medics in the army first hand was fucking eye opening. seeing their job and comparing it to even being an IFT EMT on a bus being a glorified uber for fatass boomers on oxygen is crazy. posting this is a warning to anyone whos as retarded as me and thinking military experience is going to score them some magical brownie points career wise in this field is the only purpose. yes its true the military has flight medics and spec ops positions, but its hardly worth it when you consider the civilian pathway. any other MOS i cannot speak on. and its also true that watching the psyop edits on IG drives recruitment up, just remember the us military has been defeated by every single guerrilla force it has encountered since the 60s and it will continue to be defeated by insurgencies until the government collapses which is also probably soon. there is no need to join the military, become a minuteman and stand for your community and country.
>>64868394The employees are rude. Just shut the fuck up and do what they say. When they start asking you questions, don’t have a “Come to Jesus” moment. Whatever conditions you already disclosed on your paperwork, those are the only conditions you’ve ever had in your life. If they ask you “Have you ever had a migraine,” you say no or “I don’t think so.” If they ask you if you have ever felt sad, you put on a big smile and say “never.”
>>64868867>t. guy who lies about the fact that he got kicked out of the Army for telling everyone that he wanted to deploy to Afghanistan kill Afghani women and children
>>64862438Just do what niggers do with EBT and sell them for actual money.
>>64868130The fact that you talk like this, I wouldn't trust you to work at mcsharts making my goyslop. You damn well should not work in any public service or even the military (Israeli service). I don't even want to pay your disability, which it seems like you're trying to get with your 130/80 "hypertension" lmao. Just hide away working in a warehouse somewhere. You have to play your part, we don't all get to do what we want due to our natural competence level. I wanted to be a lawyer but I'm not smart enough.
>>64869223>tells others to follow a list of rules>frequently breaks the rules of this forum, including ban evasion
>>64868664The only medical boys in the US military who actually outmatch even a mild metropol's ED techs are the AF's PJs, and they have the highest casualty AND one of the highest suicide rates in the entire military for a reason.
>>64869181>The fact that you talk like this, I wouldn't trust you to work at mcsharts making my goyslop.You wouldn't know not to trust me if you met me in public because you wouldn't know about me writing mean shit on the internet, a crime of the ages, I'm sure...>I don't even want to pay your disability, which it seems like you're trying to get with your 130/80 "hypertension" lmao.I spoke contrary to this, in fact.>I wanted to be a lawyer but I'm not smart enough.Well, I can see that. I just can't believe you don't see an issue with a medical "professional" actually making shit up when talking about something they clearly know nothing about.
I work on an airbase as a civilian after a comparatively short and uneventful career in the naval reserves, but including a couple deploymentsfriendly (as in "cordial; polite; like a friend") people in the smoking area keep asking me why I don't just go regular forceit'd be a better commute and I'd make pretty much the same amount of money. I'd rather not go back, but is there any reason I should? I made killick way behind schedule and am technically still in, I just don't go to "parade" as often as I should.
>>64869497Are you American?
>>64869514Nope, Canadian. And what little service I really did was either in an office or on the toon botes. Still got a pair of medals out of it, though.
>>64869538Okay. Unfortunately very few canadians post in these threads so I don't know if anyone here will be able to answer your question. My recommendation would be to stay a civilian if the only "reason" to go active duty is your commute, without knowing anything about the pay/benefits involved. You give up a lot of freedom for not a whole lot of gain, imo.
>>64869545According to you, I shouldn't be taking advice from you either
>>64869545well my thought before I got really drunk just now was that I stay in the reserves, but my new job precludes me going to parade very often.For americans, imagine it's like the nasty grills or coast guard or something, you only go in once in a while, get "activated" on a volunteer basis to fill in on specific operations, and in theory they can call you to go "WW VIII got started so get your ass in so we can hand you a rifle".Rather than have a separate couple of elements that are dedicated to be reserve forces, we only have Army/Navy/Air, and each one has a reserve sub-component. I have been Reserve for my entire career, but did four-ish years serving on our minesweepers. You may have seen picrelated somewhere, it was all on these things. (I have been on a frigate, but it was very early in my career and did nothing useful.) In any case, I spent a lot of time on a full-time contract where basically they hire a reservist to fill the position of what would normally be a reg force member.In terms of pay and benefits, either I make around 60k/yr and have full medical and pretty good dental and visual, or I make 60k/yr and have full medical and pretty good dental and visual. I left the active fleet at LS/S1(E...4? I'm not sure how to translate the rank, but the "working rank" of the force where you are expected to know your job the best you're liable for, but are not an explicit manager). I am in one of the nerd trades, and found a job at a defence contractor and basically got it because I was in a nerd trade and can be expected to know how to operate an out-of-date computer.>You give up a lot of freedom for not a whole lot of gain, imo.That's the problem. It turns out that working for a living fucking sucks! both gave me regular psychic damage and in a lot of the same ways. they pay the same, have similar benefits, and honestly, the same sorts of coworkers. 100% of my team is ex-mil and only one wouldn't have outranked me when they left.
>>64868664>I got washed out in basic training>Here’s why the Army’s medical training actually sucksBased on what experience? Is this another stupid LARP? What do you retards get from saying all this dumb shit?>I spent 2 weeks getting yelled at and eating bagged eggs. Here’s what I learned about Army emergency trauma care.Why do you retards spend so much time writing bullshit just to get (You)s? What’s the point?
>>64869636>psychic damageI think you've had a little too much to drink, already.
>>64869647>>Here’s why the Army’s medical training actually sucks>Based on what experience? Is this another stupid LARP?nta and i dont know what this specific schizophrenia is about but up here unless you're either a cook, were a steward(rip), or are specifically a medical officer, we just do basic first aid like you can get at any course. your typical "maybe put a bandage on him" "don't put tourniquets around the neck" "here's how to use an AED; if it fails, do not use a car battery" type stuff.
>>64869647Jesus christ, Robert, do you think everything is a LARP!?
>>64869666>I think you've had a little too much to drink, already.i haven't had enough and i am impervious to pale damage from the startjunctioning the demon drink moves it from Absorb to Null
who the fuck is robert and do i have to start posting fursmut and ace combat quotes like it's 2010
>>64869697>schizo nonsenseIf what you've had isn't enough for you already, I'd hate to see what "enough" is. You'd probably die.
>>64869758>who the fuck is robertAn incorporal entity whom we worship.>and do i have to start posting fursmut and ace combat quotes like it's 2010Yes.
>>64869758>>64869780>incorporal*incorporealFuck autocorrect fucking my fucking shit up, FUCK FUCK!!!
>>64869775Welcome to the military, I suppose. For us, it's always like this.>>64869780>>64869789Would robert tell me to remuster to naval combat engineering systems
How do I become an Army Chaplain?
>>64869819Robert is whatever you need him to be.
>>64869925Can Robert be a friend? I like to soothe myself with Ace Combat videos. They always tell me>Find a wingman while you can.>You'll have a better chance working as a team.
>>64869819>Welcome to the military, I suppose.For someone in my position with a fucked medical history, I'd love to hear that.>Would robert tell me to remuster to naval combat engineering systemsDon't you know it's heretical to assume God's will?... But probably not, he's apparently someone who couldn't even get into the military for saying he wanted to slaughter Afghan women and children, and has been anti-militarily ragebaiting on these threads ever since for the better part of a decade. Or at least that's what I've gathered since stumbling into the middle of all this, cause half the people just dismissively spam Robert and accuse everyone of being Robert, no matter how much it doesn't fit into the extended lore.
>>64869925This.>>64869959Okay, NOW we're bordering on heresy...
>>64869978>Don't you know it's heretical to assume God's will?...literally murdering god and marring the Akashic Record for PER pointsthe will of the species is a powerful thing>For someone in my position with a fucked medical history, I'd love to hear that.If it's any consolation, when I joined I had just had a severe self-harm episode that left me with a pretty bad leg issue. I was asked about my history, and said "Yeah well sometimes my leg goes numb..."Doctor at not-MEPS (forme de la francophonie) then said something like>But you can walk fine, right? Right?">But probably not, he's apparently someone who couldn't even get into the military for saying he wanted to slaughter Afghan women and children, and has been anti-militarily ragebaiting on these threads ever since for the better part of a decade. It's a fortunate thing that recuiters filter out the true psychos. There's a need for the deranged, but not like that.
>>64870023>literally murdering god and marring the Akashic Record for PER points>the will of the species is a powerful thingBased>If it's any consolation, when I joined I had just had a severe self-harm episode that left me with a pretty bad leg issue. I was asked about my history, and said "Yeah well sometimes my leg goes numb...">Doctor at not-MEPS (forme de la francophonie) then said something like>>But you can walk fine, right? Right?"I got disqualified before I should've gone to MEPS, I never even had my physical. (Even though some people in this thread [like one person], thinks that is impossible, but refused to tell me how to report this MEPS for apparently breaking regulation, and started meming around.)I was told by a recruiter that they aren't considering people who need waivers right now, and I need a waiver. I guess they just want to do the least amount of work possible, especially since the MEPS in my area serves one of the biggest cities in the US, and I guess they're very backlogged. They also said I might've had better luck at a MEPS in a lower population area, but I'd have to go at least 100+ miles away for that. Like, if I tried to join the Army from Texas, they might've shuffled me right in, lol.Sorry for shitty format, phone posting rn
>>64870256>and I need a waiver.For what? Is it for a lifesaving medication, or are you just a little 'tismal?
>>64870298They diagnosed me as a psychotically depressed, suicidal Autist with ADHD. I don't think the Autism is much of a problem nor the ADHD, but everything else is. I was told I could get my mental health re-assessed, and that might pass as a waiver if it voids everything before. Or maybe I'll need a waiver on top of that, I don't know cause whoever I talk to about it speaks very loosely and abstract for some reason. But even then, getting a waiver after a good re-assessment shouldn't be as difficult.
>>64870298>>64870325*The medications I was on in the past also made them iffy, but I don't know what exactly that means for me because I can't get any specific info from these recruiters with not enough time on their hands. I'm not on anything now, though.
>>64870325>They diagnosed me as a psychotically depressed, suicidal Autist with ADHD.If it's a fair assessment, you don't belong in the forces. You won't be useful.Take it from me: I'm obviously pretty bad, but could at least lie my way through and did something. If you are willing to admit that you are depressed, even suicidal, the forces won't help you, and you won't help them. It's a non-profit, not a charity.I hate to be mean, but if you want to kill yourself, first off, don't: it's the enemy's job to kill you, and there is no sense working for free. But also, if you are currently willing to work for free, no one will pay you for it. Work on that first.Pro Tip: No one wants you to kill yourself, and you are more valuable alive. There's a lot of fucked up ways to take that, but it helps.
>>64870348>If it's a fair assessment, you don't belong in the forces. You won't be useful.You don't even have the authority to determine that.>Take it from me: I'm obviously pretty bad, but could at least lie my way through and did something.They didn't even give me the oppertunity to explain anything away, they canceled my physical which they would've interviewed me at.>If you are willing to admit that you are depressed, even suicidal, the forces won't help you, and you won't help them.I am willing to admit that I was, only if they ask me. That's all in the past, and there's no way they weren't going to crosscheck my medical history anyway. I couldn't just lie about it, cause when my first recruiter falsified my medical prescreening form, MEPS crosschecked it and immediately DQ'd me anyway! So what's new?...
Drill sergeant asks the private why they joined the army.Private says "I wanna kill people."DS asks "Oh really, who are you gonna kill!?"P says, "Whoever uncle same tells me to, DS@"DS says, wanting to trip him up, says, "Would you kill your own mother!?"P says, "No DS, I'm a motherfucker, not a motherkiller."What is the appropriate response for the DS?
Any /k/ommandos have experience with grafenwohr germany? PCSing soon.
>>64870372>You don't even have the authority to determine that.No, I don't. But I could get someone like you as a new OD.>They didn't even give me the oppertunity to explain anything away, they canceled my physical which they would've interviewed me at.You were too stupid to hide. I hate to be mean, but this is something easy to navigate. Just don't list it. That you couldn't navigate that is indicative of other problems that you need to fix. If you can't defeat your own government to get a job you want, what hope do you stand defeating anyone else's? It's like getting a clearance -- everyone is so scared about secrets being dug up, or being too boring that non-existent secrets are implied; that's not the point. Your recruiter falsified documents? you lied to him or he lied on your behalf? welcome to the forces. you signed something that wasn't true? big mistake. you only conduct fraud when you can get someone else to sign it and never have your name even be a whisper on the wind among ghosts and shadows. one must be honest, except when you can put your all into conducting pure treason-level fraud and have so much behind you that no individual thing can be singled out. Either live your life like an Agent or live it like a CDDA character.>>64870396>What is the appropriate response for the DS?it's >...until you can figure out the answer he specifically wants
>>64870404And fwiw, what little bit I do in the military, I prefer the latter. I keep it honest, I keep it pure, and I'm pretty sure that when I was in the nest I had a reputation for a little bit of bridled insanity. I lied a lot, but what few times I would, the "dishonesty" would be in hiding information or deflection. Outright lying is a losing game. At least when you lie, it should be about something so insane or complicated that further lies appear to just be incompetent deception so the line between "lie"(declaration of something not true) and "bullshit"(declaration where truth value is irrelevant) is blurred. Better yet, keep a stock of truth that is so complicated, so nonsensical, or just not interesting enough to be cared about.
>>64870424jalapeno bread
>>64870396>Drill sergeant asks the private why they joined the army.>Private says "I wanna kill people."Wow, he already fucked up.>DS asks "Oh really, who are you gonna kill!?"There is no good answer for this question, because you scrutinize any answer anyone gives.e.g.:"The enemy, SIR!">Oh REALLY?... While you're being such a gung-ho retard, you've forgotten the pen is mightier than the sword. Any good soldier should be anti-war, ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US ALL BLOWN UP!?!?!??!>DS asks "Oh really, who are you gonna kill!?""Nobody, SIR!">Oh, REALLY?! We're the Military, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE DO!?!?!?!?>*recycles pvt., then pvt. gets kicked out regardless*
>>64866140>the VA is about to take away the VA bux from all those people who's symptoms are controlled by medicine and treatments>all the guys that got 100% with 3rd party non VSO help are getting that shit taken The government fucking over veterans a little more every year, and people are still stupid enough to join.
>>64870447well you see, you get a clearance and then join ICE for 200k signing bonus then go private sector and make le big TC figgies at Lockheed
>Be unemployed loser with 80% disability and full GI Bill >Go back to hometown for family stuff >Peer group consists of unemployed losers with no veteran benefits I am so glad I joined the military.
>>64870404>You were too stupid to hide. I hate to be mean, but this is something easy to navigate. Just don't list it.I didn't list anything, and I barely told my recruiter anything. Do they just not use Genesis in Canada, do you not know what that is?>Your recruiter falsified documents? you lied to him or he lied on your behalf?Yes, he falsified my documents, and he lied on my behalf. He didn't wanna put anything on my prescreening form, but we got found out because MEPS crosschecked the Genesis database with my SSN!
>>64870471>Do they just not use Genesis in Canada,Nope.>Yes, he falsified my documents,Did you sign them without reviewing them or something?
>>64870400Nice area. Almost everyone I've talked to who was in the unit at rose barracks (2CR? 3CR?) mentioned high optempo and mid to poor leadership, but being able to travel and see Europe made up for it. Those who were in the other units generally reported good experiences.If you're single I've heard they have you in the barracks til E6, can't confirm because I only went there on rotation instead of as PCS.
>>64870452It will be hard to do that once ice is abolished and you're still kicked off your VA welfare bux.
>>64870489I signed what I needed to, what else was I supposed to do? He just filled it out for me, and even removed what little I did say, and took control of the situation.If I didn't give them my SSN or sign off on it, they probably wouldn't have accepted me either. I wouldn't, if I worked at MEPS.
>>64868606You sound like that 92gfag who's son died and they still sent him on a deployment anyway or something like that. You'd dodged a bullet.
>>64865914I’m not nor have I ever been a recruiter, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would advise studying hard for the ASVAB (or don’t, you can just retake it, I didn’t). You should be able to look up the line scores required to be an AT. I would cater my studying to those line scores. I knew I guy who did exactly that to be a nuke with ASVAB for dummies. He dropped out in the pipeline though, as believe it or not the ASVAB os actually a pretty good indicator of your aptitude (used to be accepted by Mensa), and by min-maxing it he fucked himself when he didn’t actually have that dog in him. tl:dr - decide to either study before the ASVAB or raw dog it, and either get lucky or take the standing 8 count abs study for the next one. I haven’t personally used study material for the ASVAB, but I’ve heard ASVAB for dummies helps. Look up the required line scores. My biggest advice is DON’T SETTLE. At MEPS they’ll sell you every lie under the sun to make you sign, but the truth is you can walk anytime. You have 0 obligation to sign at MEPS, even after the physical and the ASVAB. If you have other questions I lurk this thread on and off. Throw up ETN1 like the bat signal and I’ll keep my eyes peeled. Good luck, shipmate. T. ETN1
>>64870516>I signed what I needed to,Did you need to? Apparently it was inaccurate and didn't work out.>He just filled it out for me, and even removed what little I did say, and took control of the situation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CYIu8Bc9sY&t=46s
>>64870550>Did you need to?Okay, if I didn't sign anything at all, would you accept me into the military?>Apparently it was inaccurate and didn't work out.They told me even if it was accurate, they would've DQ'd me without an interview anyway. That sure as hell would've saved me some time though >:(
>>64870569>Okay, if I didn't sign anything at all, would you accept me into the military?Even when I was joining, every piece of paperwork involving my signature had someone tell me "look this over and make sure it's correct before signing it.">they would've DQ'd me without an interview anyway. And sometimes you don't get a job you apply for.
>>64870537>Throw up ETN1 like the bat signal and I’ll keep my eyes peeled.Copy that, thank you for the all of the advice, much appreciated.
>>64870615>Copy that,comms nerd here, that is not a real thing, you simply say "roger"and never say "roger wilco" or also everyone will make fun of you for that too
>>64870587>Even when I was joining, every piece of paperwork involving my signature had someone tell me "look this over and make sure it's correct before signing it."Then I guess my first recruiter didn't do his due diligence.>And sometimes you don't get a job you apply for.I know that.
>>64870624>Rodger, Rodger. What's our vector, Victor?
>>64870624I think it's the funniest when people compulsively say "over" after every little thing, like they're in a badly written movie.
>>64870624>that is not a real thingI'm a tow truck driver that uses some shitty private HF radio every day, we use "copy that" daily. I am 4 beers deep and am just typing how I speak lol.Forgive my lack of knowledge on military radio etiquette, as I am not in the military yet!
>>64870651that annoys radio people to no end. when you say "over" us niggas stop listeningand the only real reason to say "copy" these days is basically to say you were listening in to something you weren't addressed on, and it's usually taken as snide. like>X, Y, this is W, the thing is happen, ogre over>THIS IS Z, C O P Y, I'M HERE TOO AND ALSO CARE ABOUT THE THING, OVER AND OUT ROGET DODGET
>>64870668again, everyone who is not in comms talks like it's CB or a bad police drama and it annoys the comms people a lot. don't worry about it because we're used to it and even we don't always maintain good procedure but we will laugh at you for doing CB/police/movie shit. but dont take it personally no one really cares as long as you can make yourself understood and aren't eating the mic
>>64870677Hahhaha okay understood, comms has always interested me a little bit how do I learn more? Had a CB setup in my vehicle for a while but where I live it might as well have been a walmart walkie, was useful for camping though
>>64870683>how do I learn morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V20uOSkPsactual #1 pro tip actually just shut the fuck up. think about what you are going to say AND THEN say it. so much air time is consumed by "uhhh well uhhh we are uhhh hmmm uhhhhwe are hmmm uhhhhh"also people trying to be tacticool clogging up the net with tacticool sayings. don't tell me how you're five by five roget doger i asked you how much fuel you have nigga quit wasting my motherfucking time just say the number BITHC
>>64870669Wasn't "copy" supposed to mean when someone is literally copying something down?When I hear that, I think more of air traffic Like they give you a heading or something, and then they say something like "Rodger, do you copy?".
>>64870704>"uhhh well uhhh we are uhhh hmmm uhhhhwe are hmmm uhhhhh"Los Rodeos 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>64870711yes but because "roger" means "i understand" and understanding means taking appropriate action, it also includes wilco/copy/etc.so if some unit in control of you says to do a thing, and then you say "roger", it's fucking obvious that you will also comply, and also wrote it down, and the modern era also means that like 900 independent systems also recorded it, and there's lawyers on standby to charge you if you don't comply. so there's no reason to say "copy" or "wilco". it's not only obvious, it's outright included in "roger". Likewise if you're addressing a unit NOT under your control and they say "roger", they won't say "wilco", they will issue new orders or plans. They will not comply with you, you ain't shit.in modern stuff generally "copy" is for when you're the equivalent of a CC on a message, or just were listening in but never a real part of the conversation. so like if unit X is told to do a thing, but you're unit Y and the thing might affect you, you could report in "This is unit Y, I copy unit X doing the thing" to make it clear you're aware of the situation even if you were never directly addressed. It's pretty rare in my experience but once in a while people forget about you, or you get something and you know it might affect someone else so you wanna make sure they heard about it, so you might say something "This is unit X, roger, unit Y, did you copy?"but for the most part this stuff doesnt matter to learn first -- either you're going into comms where this form of autism will be beaten into you, or you're not and literally fucking no one cares as long as you're understood and everyone has the mic in their mouth and their speaker a county over anyway
>>64870641https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aysd9pn7IH0
>>64870683>how do I learn more?https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/acp/acp125f.pdf
>>64870747MOM THEYRE POSTING SECRET DOCUMENTS ON 4CHAN AGAIN
>>64865166Is putting the muzzle brake against the urine-encrusted floor supposed to be a form of biological warfare?
>>64870465>disability ratings are going away >going back to the place you left >not surrounding yourself with better people
>>64870740What happens if your name is Rodger Wilco?Also, this whole time I somehow didn't notice that the "roger" ratio term does not have a "d". I don't read them "dad gum" radio transcripts.
>>64870740>>64870930>ratio*radio, ffs!This autocorrect is actually getting worse. You would never believe it, but it's starting to correct to shit that makes no sense. Like, "any" would just change to "anything", and and vice versa with longer words correcting to shorter words with a partial letter match. I don't have an example right now. And deleting all learned keyboard suggestions somehow hasn't helped.
>>64871179You dont like military patches?
>>64871200>implying most things like patches aren't all made in china.
>>64871179Go to sleep, 92gfag
>>64851482So you're telling me that posting about the Olympics is irrelevant and time wasting, and worthy of deletion, but yet, all of this isn't???:>>64871124 , 25, 28 , 33, 38, 40, 43, 46, 49, 54, 58, 64, 66, 71, 79Imagine making sense, Robert; that would be impossible.(It thought my post was spam, so I guess we can't have nice things.)
>>64871268https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQTJl2bwoZQ
>>64871268I like how nobody tried to argue or contradict me when I said the military doesn't even do anything about rape or sexual assault half the time. >>64866327I've never even served, but they couldn't call me out on that. And now they can't say anything that won't make them look bad. :3
>>64871278Nobody argues with you because we know everything you say stems from a personal vendetta and you lack the objectivity necessary to conduct an argument. Also because you are gay.
>>64871278We know what you want. You want engagement on this dumb board that hardly anyone uses. But I have no problem giving you what you want because it won’t make your life any better. So here’s your (You).
>>64871610Funny how you dont say the same thing about 92gfag even though he says the exact same shit.
>>64871800Because he hasn’t been here in months and you just pretend to be him
>>64871824He was here on christmas and posted his disability card a thread or 2 ago.
>>64861646>arrive to first unit>they assign me to the S3 shop
>>64870795>+10 poison damage buff per bullet
>>64871969Enjoy your broadening assignment. Go fill out a land and ammo form.
>>64871969Relax. Everyone clowns on getting stuck in S3, and if you're a hungry high-speed killer type it does suck to become a weird paperwork/layout/TOC slave, but knocking this out early on will help you in the long run. If you're fresh from AIT/OSUT you will likely only do a year tops in there as your leadership wants you to develop in your MOS instead of rotting there forever.Pay close attention to how the S3 operates. Learn a little bit of what the land and ammo, schools, cuops, and fuops personnel do. Build good professional relationships with the people in there as once you're on the line you'll have a hookup to get stuff you need. Knowing how an S3 operates and how to get things out of them is the difference between being an effective member of your battalion who can make things happen, and being an eternally confused guy who bitches about the 3 shop but keeps trying to request ranges a couple days in advance tops. Working there and doing a good job (on time, right uniform/attitude, gets stuff done without supervision, fit) means your BC and CSM will see you more than a line guy and your chances of distinguishing yourself go up. Later on, this improves your chances of getting cool schools or opportunities approved.As you get close to the 1 year mark in the 3 shop, be sure to message (politely and professionally, but firmly) that you need line time to grow in your MOS.
>>64872018I basically said all this, so I'll take the credit for having said it first.
>>6487180092G served honorably and isn't a hypocritical psychopath.
>>64872455I’ve never raped nor been raped, so I don’t care.
>>64872455Can you please show us the DI's getting executed? Also, why are you using DI when you should be using DS? Did you get kicked out of BCT so quickly that you couldn't even shake off the FMJ conditioning and correct address your drill sergeant as a drill sergeant?
>>64872466You would really only care if you've been raped, (obviously).>GUYS, soldiers committing crimes if perfectly normal!!!
>>64872474Thank you for providing greentext to demonstrate how your mentally ill brain twists and misconstrues what is said to you. It gives great insight into how you became such a fuckup.
>>64872473Then maybe the retards in these threads shouldn't spam DI when they mean DS, and maybe the greater internet shouldn't spam that the penalty for a DS laying hands on a soldier is "a life sentence in Leavenworth or death".>>64872478You're welcome, Robert :) Are you having fun acting like David Attenborough?
>>64872494Robert needs to strongly consider why he feels entitled to respect when he has developed a horrible reputation here. The benefit of anonymity is an equal start to every discussion, and yet Robert instead decided to forgo this anonymity yet cannot handle the consequences of doing so. He wishes to be anonymous, hence the constant attempts to play-pretend as numerous other people, but you can't put the genie back in the bottle after being identified as the one, lonely troll with easily-identifiable motivations and thought patterns.tl;dr shitty people shouldn't complain when they are treated the way they have treated everyone else
still have no idea what this Master Sergeant thing was about.
>>64872506So what about the life sentence or death penalty thing for a DS hitting soldiers?
>>64872533i dunno who cares. if you were valuable you wouldn't be in a position where a ds has authority over you.
>>64872533Why does a DS need to hit soldiers? You’re just supposed to yell at them and stress them out.>Hurr basic training needs to be tougherWhy? It weeded you out just fine. Clearly basic training does a good job of taking out the trash already.
>>64872558>>64872552Nah bootcamp is fine as is. the people that are there are peers with single moms and gangbangers, who gives a shit about how they are treated for a few weeks. you just need to get them to behave during their training pipeline and then they can go back to stealing inventory and drunk driving.
>>64861646btw, aidar got dronedi am kirking so hard right now
>>64872329>standing up for 92gfagHe is / was literally worse than robert.
>>6487284992GFag actually served and left with an honorable discharge. He’s just a retard and blames the Army for his horrible life decisions. He acts like spending 10 years as a cook is something that can just happen to anybody, like a random dice roll.
>>64872849And yet Robert pretends to be him because 92G actually served
>retireDoesn't the UCMJ apply to you for the rest of your life if you retire?
>>64872872The army was his terrible life decision, so he said. The rest just seemed like shit leadership.
>>64868606>>64868664>medfag is retarded and a cuckChecks out.
>>64872966His shit decision was signing 6 years as a cook. His second shit decision was resigning 4 years as a cook. Now he just brags about his VA Disability and GI Bill, shit he wouldn’t have if he never joined the Army like he wishes.But you already know that, Robert. You have no GI Bill or VA disability because you didn’t actually serve and never got an honorable discharge. You can keep posting stupid, baiting posts on this shithole for another 8 years. It won’t make your life any better.
If you weren't a neverserved youd know you don't need an honorable discharge to get VA compensation or medical care through the VA.
>>64873039For>>64873006
Kinda want to join but I also saw how GWOT fucked up my dad though. Is the moral aspect of serving more or less gone? I'm quite conflicted.I also don't really like this admin (not a weirdo lefty but still)Any suggestions
>>64873062You will never be able to control whether you deploy to combat or not and what kind of purpose the administration uses you for. You can control whether you act morally and honorably, regardless of the situation you find yourself in. It's massively overshilled as "THE 2LT book" but Once an Eagle by Anton Myrer touches on this in a good way.That said, why do you want to join? What's your plan?
>>64873070Bounced around between jobs, never found a real home or grew up. 25, kinda loafing around the house. No real plan per se, but I do think I could appreciate the structure maybe.
>>64873076By finding a real home I meant like a career or whatever, you know what I mean, not homeless
>>64873039>If you weren't a neverserved youd know you don't need an honorable discharge to get VA compensation or medical care through the VA.I’m literally in, and I don’t know that. I don’t know that because I don’t have a BCD, and I don’t plan on getting a BCD. This is what you don’t understand, Robert. Regular service members don’t know what entails an Other-Than-Honorable discharge. They don’t know the regs for an OTH. They don’t know these things because 99% of service members leave with an honorable discharge. But you got kicked out less than 6 months into joining the military and never met the 180 day mark. That’s why you’re an expert on BCD entitlements and what you qualify for. Because you are the 1%. I watched fat, black moms make it through basic training and go on to finish out their contracts and get honorable discharges. It’s normal.But you didn’t get one, Robert. Because you are not normal. You also don’t have VA disability because you weren’t even in long enough to worry about that. So why do you care?
>>64873076Funny, I'm the same age as you but joined when I was 18.I recommend spending some time seriously researching 1) the different jobs available in the military (combat arms, intel, naval stuff, aircrew, etc.), 2) the different branches and the ways they differ, 3) the specific benefits and drawbacks of military service, and 4) what your living situation would look like once you join. If you have a degree, you could commission. I strongly recommend doing so rather than enlisting, should you decide to join.Don't take this harshly, but "finding a real home" or "growing up" are fairly nebulous goals that could feasibly be reached without the military. I wouldn't join solely because of these, at least, not without understanding exactly what I'm gaining and what I'm losing by doing so. It's also very hard for any of us to help you beyond giving general life advice if you don't have something more specific than "join the military" in mind. I'm in the Army and have been infantry and now intel, if you're curious about where I'm coming from.
>>64873062>fucked up my dadThis implies that he wasn't fucked up before GWOT. Alot of screwballs blame the military so they can get the gibs.
>>64873076>never found a real home or grew upAh, the never ending search for Daddy. Now this guy is SGM material. Just so you know, you'll fall apart during the mildest inconvenience like most former mil.
>>64873076Don't romanticize the militaryconsider it a job programit's actually pretty fucking gay
>>64873100>Funny, I'm the same age as you but joined when I was 18.I loved talking with the older dudes in basic training because the majority of them were mega losers. There were cool dudes who did cool things and wanted a change.But most of the old dudes it was like>Yep, I’m 27 and just enlisted.Cool, what did you do first the last 10 years of your life?>I’ve just been hanging out.20% of their adult life wasted doing nothing. No fun hobbies, no interesting work, no meaningful relationships. 10 years living at home and working at the pizza shop. Makes you wonder how they didn’t join sooner. How many $500 paychecks before you say “Eh, the Army can’t be any worse than Wal-Mart.”
>>64873177Well, at least I can mog the 18 year olds I'll share the rank of E4 and below with. So much enlisted pussy.
>>64873177uh, okay
>>64873195>Well, at least I can mog the 18 year olds I'll share the rank of E4 and below with. >So much enlisted pussy.You’re not mogging anyone. Those dudes will be E-5/E-6 by the time they’re your current age.Also, give up on the enlisted pussy dream. There’s like 1 woman for every 20 men in the military. And military women are not worth touching anyways.Military is still probably the best bet for you if you’re 25 and got nothing going for you. Do HVAC in the Air Force or something. You’ll have a real career by the end of your contract. The truth is you’re behind the 8-Ball. Most dudes your age just finished up their masters degrees or got out of law school or something. You don’t wanna go to school and not get your first real job until your 30 years old. A trade apprenticeship still means you’re making dick for pay until you’re like 30 too. Military will let you get paid a decent wage while getting some real job training and education benefits.
>>64864593Well, that's a good thing to hear, and I don't mind doing the same work every since well since I really want to get some experience in gunsmithing while going to college to get my mechanical engineering degree and get a job at any defense contractor or any gun company but I don't really think working in a gun company will make a good profit for that I have heard, but like everything god will decide for me where I go, but thank for the advice man I hope you have a blessed day
>>64873229>don't go to school it's too late for that>do a contract with the military and then do school even later>career in military means a career after the military You realize that unless you're something like intel or cyber or nuclear the certifications you get in the military aren't worth jack shit in the real world. Stop lying to these poor kids about the military.
>>64873404Yeah I'm unsure why people think they're all high and mighty just because they joined instead of working at walmart for 10 years.I won't lie the military does provide a certain kind of motivation for people, but the two main benefits, VA loan and college are becoming increasingly worthless.
>>64873404>>64873431Holy fucking samefag
>>64873467You wish man>t. 13f 2017-2022
>>64873404>don't go to school it's too late for thatYes, literally. Graduating with a bachelors and student loan debt at 30 is life on turbohard mode>do a contract with the military and then do school even laterOr do school in the military for free while earning an income and retirement contributions>career in military means a career after the militaryYes, tuition assistance, certs, job training, security clearances, all shit that helps with a post-military career if you have a plan.>You realize that unless you're something like intel or cyber or nuclear the Uh, then do those jobs, you fucking retard. You say that like you can’t actually do cyber/intel/nuclear. Also, the tradie certs absolutely do matter. Eletricican/HVAC/heavy equipment operation/medical/etc certifications are all real, transferable skills, and they’ll pay for the civilian certs if you want them. Like A&P certs for aircraft maintenance. >you get in the military aren't worth jack shit in the real world. Stop lying to these poor kids about the military.Fuck off, Robert. Anyone who doesn’t end up like you is a success story.
>>64873472Robert has discovered airplane mode.
>>64873431>Yeah I'm unsure why people think they're all high and mighty just because they joined instead of working at walmart for 10 years.>What you get after 20 years in the militaryA pension and healthcare for life>What you get after 20 years at Wal-Mart10 donuts (almost a dozen). You have to split them with your co-workers at your anniversary party.
>>64873521How many people actually do the 20? People in these threads literally always advocate to do the shortest contract and dip out after scamming the VA. That shit is coming to an end, and they're changing the whole rating system and changing what you can even claim.
>>64873560>What you get after 4 years in the militaryBenefits.>What you get after 4 years at Wal-MartA single cupcake.
>>64873039Robert gets nothing from the military because of his BCD but he sure gives a lot of attention. These threads rarely stay on page 0 without him
>>64873404Why would anyone take career advice from a 35 year old NEET that spends every day talking shit on 4chan? You aren't anonymous, Robert; we all know who's fat hands are typing this crap
>>64873604Why would they take advice from a neverserved? Why didn't you adress the points I mentioned?
>>64873604The idea of a fat, middle-aged, unemployed man (who got kicked out the military) giving career advice to a 25 year old NEET that lives with his mom is so funny to me. Like 2 retards studying quantum mechanics together.
>>64862438how is this different from being on mealcard?
>>64873534Ignore faggot OPMake patty melt
