>tfw too much of a coward to illegally buy hormones DIY
just go to planned parenthood, dood. then you can stop being a dood.
>>35538899>doodI'm not a pooner I'm amab and want estradiol lol.
>>35538882you dont have dysphoria
>>35538971Maybe I do maybe I don't. Doesn't matter either way
>>35538882>>35538949what are you scared of
>>35538949MtF DIY is legal if you're in the states
>>35538989Having criminal charges lol>>35539018Almost nobody goes after you for it but it's legally gray at the federal level and I think it's illegal in my state
>>35539044the legality isnt dependent on state, you will be ok i promise
>>35539044There's no US state where you're going to go to jail or face criminal charges for DIY HRT. Estradiol and the common AAs like Spiro and Cypro are not controlled substances in this country. You'd only have problems if you got caught buying T. Literally just buy them from inhouse or wherever. You send a check to their PO Box and they ship it to you from Vanuatu. It's easy. The only trick is to only buy a 30 day supply at a time, because the customs thugs will probably steal anything more than that.
>>35539044>crimimal chargesstop believing in trenders you see on tiktok you zoomer, just buy your stuff already
>>35539018Its not that big of a deal if you're buying estrogen. (unless you're in a red state) Pooners having it harder in the DIY aspect.
>>35539096>The only trick is to only buy a 30 day supply at a timehad no issues getting significantly more with other suppliers just throwing that out there
>>35539129It was my understanding that when the package comes from some legit overseas pharmacy with the declaration marked as "non-restricted pharmaceuticals" that they have the power to take anything above an arbitrarily-decided 30 day supply. Am I misinformed or have things changed since I learned that?
>>35539153>legit overseas pharmacywell there you go
>>35539160Okay lol. That's exactly what I was expecting you meant! I'm mistrustful of sketchy mystery internet transsexuals, though (even if Lena seems alright). I would much rather buy meds made by sketchy mystery pharmaceutical companies, but we all have our preferences!
>>35538899>floridaha
>>35539068>the legality isnt dependent on stateThere's a lot of state specific laws>>35539096>There's no US state where you're going to go to jail or face criminal charges for DIY HRT.I feel like the reason mtfs get away with it is not always because it's unquestionably legal, but just because nobody gives enough of a shit to go after it.>Estradiol and the common AAs like Spiro and Cypro are not controlled substances in this country.It's illegal in my state to buy non-controlled prescription drugs from unlawful sources. I don't know if overseas internet pharmacy in Vanuatu counts.>Literally just buy them from inhouseThat's what I was planning to do I just am really worried that I'm gonna get hit with a drug charge.>>35539112I don't think they'd go after me since they don't care, but I'm not convinced it's legal>>35539160I don't know if any overseas pharmacy is considered "legit" by the states.
>>35539397>it's illegal in my stateWhat fucking state?>I'm gonna get hit with a drug chargeholy shit anon calm down. even in states where they still criminalize marijuana, they don't consider it a high priority. Your shit is literally a lower priority for the cops than weed>I don't know if any overseas pharmacy is considered "legit" by the statesnow you're just making things up to justify your anxiety lmao
>xhe's in the usjust buy from tea and skip customs entirely lol, legality isn't the issue it's dealing with cryto that's the annoying part
>>35539207>I'm mistrustful of sketchy mystery internet transsexualsyeah, i am too. quite a few of them have been tested independently for concentration/contamination at https://transharmreduction.org/hrt-testingmade me confident enough to keep at it along with not really seeing anyone with significant issues as a result of them. that site's generally good, op should check it out too >>35538882
>>35539397>>35539489>>35539490Fr, tea has an AMA thread up rn lmao. Go ask questions there if you want. She's also domestic, so there's basically zero risk of seizure since no customs.
>>35539415>What fucking state?NY lol.>holy shit anon calm down. even in states where they still criminalize marijuana, they don't consider it a high priority.Yeah I know lol. Plenty of people have probably been DIY in my area for years.Just thinking about how at any moment if a cop or prosecution really wanted to fuck you over they could and I'm worried I'm gonna be the unlucky one that gets fucked.>now you're just making things up to justify your anxiety lmaoI have a lot of anxiety about this but I also am actually not sure if online pharmacies legally are allowed to operate in the US but they just do anyways.>>35539489Thought about that as wellI think dealing with crypto is easy unless you mean going all the way with no KYC
>>35539573you are actually just insanely paranoid, nothing's happening to you
>>35539580>you are actually just insanely paranoid, nothing's happening to youProbably not but like I also feel incredibly stupid ordering potentially illegal drugs through my fucking checking account.Most likely nothing's gonna happen but like it's still something I'm thinking about
>>35539602>Buy monero, untraceable>Buy DIY with it>success?Or just be like me and use the absolute least secure option, coinbase °~°
>>35539602If you're amab literally nothing you can buy would even be scheduled
>>35538882>illegallykekw
>>35539619bank transfer with my deadname lmao
>>35539619>Or just be like me and use the absolute least secure option, coinbase °~°I mean if it's getting sent to my address anyways it's not like I'm really thinking about security anyways.Idk I'm just a retard who's afraid of fucking this up. I might just order it soon and hope nothing bad happens. Like there has to be tons of trannies DIYing in my state without issue.But holy shit I'm really scared>>35539772Yeah I know. Estradiol is not scheduled and like customs and the state would not give a shit about me ordering a vial like every 3 months.It's weird because it's like all wishy washy like "even non scheduled drugs are illegal to buy but for personal use it's whatever"Most likely nothing is gonna happen but it's scary to think about it getting seized by customs or worse.
>>35539955Yea, I got bigger adrenaline my first time, although it was more because my parents would crucify me, so I had to hide it.Also, a vial lasts atleast 9 months
>>35539542who or what is tea? and how can i potentially get in contact w them...
>>35540269pretty reputable brewer >>35525291 if u want the ama
>>35540013>Yea, I got bigger adrenaline my first time, although it was more because my parents would crucify me, so I had to hide it.This too, I have to hide it from my housemates as well. I probably should get a PO box but if the package is discrete enough I might be able to order it just to my doorstep>Also, a vial lasts atleast 9 monthsHow big is your vial and what's your dosage?
Screw it I might just do it. The worst that could happen is customs destroys it right? I'm not gonna get prosecuted or charged for this r-right?
>>35542809200,000 Americans are estimated to be doing diy right now.
>>35542809check your level though
>>35538949>wojakpostingplease don't. stay away from us. also its not illegal retard
>>35543034I'm trying to convince myself it's fine, I'll just be lumped in with all the men who buy viagra or fin online or something.>>35543049I thought you do that 3 months in?>>35543052>wojakpostingWhat am I supposed to post then?>also its not illegal retardIt's legally ambiguous. Like it's not obviously illegal like a controlled substance but all the policies seem to be "well we might not enforce it in these cases"It's most likely it's gonna come through, the probably the worst thing that could happen is that it gets seized and I just wasted some money.But my worst fear is that I get hit with some drug diversion charge
>>35543224>I just wasted some moneyMany reputable vendors mentioned on /hrtgen/ have a reshipment policy in place. In the event that your initial order is seized, you can request that they send you a replacement shipment.
>>35543281Yeah and I guess I just have to hope that one doesn't get seized.Like everyone here is right. I'm talking about fears about shit that never happens to anyone. Like if it happens I would be the first but I wish this were easier why am I such a fucking pussy
>>35543577Your other option is to register with an informed consent clinic to be prescribed HRT through the legal route. However, I would encourage you to consider trying ordering from a vendor first due to the expenses involved in the legal route.
>>35539573>No KYCBuy from a Bitcoin ATM. Unfortunately they have ridiculous fees, but if you're only buying in small amounts (100-500$) they won't ask for much info. I was able to buy 3 T vials for about $300 from a Bitcoindepot ATM with no problems around KYC, all they asked for was my phone number.-southern amerifag
>>35543718The cost isn't really the issue for the legit route, everything is covered by my insurance anyways.If legit were as easy as DIY except just slightly more expensive I could do it. >>35543875>T vialsftm?
>>35538882Would you rather your body turn to mush and you live miserably for the rest of your life? Order the random foreign HRT, the dysphoria doesn’t get much better if you postpone getting help
>>35544144>Would you rather your body turn to mush and you live miserably for the rest of your life?Not really
>>35541382I got a po box for the second time I ordered, but it was kinda sketch. The workers assumed I was using it for regular po box things, like redirecting mail, so I got asked a lot of questions but eventually got the box. When it came to actually getting the package, it turns out they never took the "no one owns this po box" cover off mine, so they almost returned it, and I had to go up to the desk and awkwardly explain why I only got my first delivery to the po box after like 2 months of owning it. Thankfully, they hadn't sent the package back yet, so I was able to get it. I closed the po box immediately after lmao. Now, I'll just order around holidays, so my family doesn't snoop.>size of vial + dosageI think mine are 10mL 40mg/mL. Pretty standard for DIY, but some also sell 20mg/mL, so be careful on your dosage. I'm a bit less than halfway through my second vial and it's been approx 16 months since I switched. I use EEn btw. Dosage has changed a little bit (been slowly lowering), but most of my time on injections has been 14 mg/2weeks (hate needles). If you can, I recommend a shorter injection time, like a week or 10 days (for enanthate or maybe cypionate, valerate is shorter, undecylate longer) with appropriately lowered dose. Check the transfeminine science injection calculator (just google) to compare doses.
>>35541382Oh, also, I can't speak for most, but otoko was just in a bubble envelope with a plain cardboard box inside. Everything until the actual bottles was unmarked, unbranded. I had the same experience with spiffy, but she doesn't sell anymore. I imagine most suppliers will be similarly discreet.
>>35538971Why do you always post the same image? You could just use a trip if you want to be identifiable At least a trip would distance your rhetoric from being a weeaboo
>>35546278If I use a PO box and none of the insane disaster scenarios I'm scared of happen I would be fine. I probably want a PO box anyways for the time being.I just am scared. If I wasn't a coward I would have done this already.>EEnI think those vials last longer than EV or EC>>35546330A PO box isn't that big of a hassle, but I'm obviously afraid of social interaction.
>>35546430whats wrong with being a weeb
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>>35547217If you're gonna do informed consent aren't you supposed to avoid planned parenthood?
