Couperin editionhttps://youtu.be/O832AraZKGY>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious: >>121452173
First for Yuja Wang
yuja a shit
Dong Suk Kang
>>121465076The second is popular because it sounds like Tchaikovsky but I wouldn't recommend it. His late style is much less blowsy and firetrucky. The first one to catch my attention was his seventh, which is only twenty minutes long in a single continuous movement but accomplishes a lot more within that time. I also recommend the Berglund cycle among recordings of his symphonies.
>>121465274Alright, thanks!
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>>121465174>>121465198thank you coomers>>121465177i meant sibelius, but you know what? both of them can count as the worst composers in the world.
>>121465345Thank you Lizter sister
>>121465366>i meant sibelius, but you know what? both of them can count as the worst composers in the world.lololto quote you against you, you sir are a bastard and a fiend.
I'm a composer. Totally insane stuff. I cackle like Kafka and do wizard shit with sheets. Has it ever occured to you how rich someone who wrote a symphony that gets performed as often as a Beethoven symphony would be? Richest person alive no competition
what is /mu/ classical core?
>>121465430Thank you schizo sister
>>121465398>"Every phrase, line, and chord, and beat went over and over the way you'd exactly expect it would--trite, tiresome awnings of platitudes, all a nice mixture of Grieg, Wagner and Tchaikovsky" - Charles Ives on Sibelius>"I found [the Second Symphony] vulgar, self-indulgent, and provincial beyond all description. I realize that there are sincere Sibelius-lovers in the world, though I must say I've never met one among educated professional musicians." - Virgil Thomson on Sibelius>"If Sibelius is good, then the standards of musical quality as richness of relationships, articulation, unity in manifoldness, diversity in oneness, which perennate from Bach to Schoenberg, are obsolete." - Adorno on Sibelius>"Later, the composer, theorist and conductor René Leibowitz went so far as to describe Sibelius as "the worst composer in the world" in the title of a 1955 pamphlet."they were all correct btw
>>121465434Parsifal, Tristan und Isolde.
>>121465456Thank you RYM sister
>>121465456I agreed that I did not enjoy his second symphony. His violin concerto and String Quartet no. 2 are bomb.
>>121465510thank you wagnersister>>121465513totally moronic
>>121465456He sounds interesting I might start listening to him.
>>121465528largely incorrect>>121465563quite foolish
I downloaded a bunch of opera recordings. I don't know why.
Addicted to Chopin's Ballade No.2 at the moment.
What's a good recording of L' incoronazione di Poppea? Should i just watch Harnoncourt?
>>121465821excellent question HIPster sister
Previn conducting Vaughan Williams 9th symphony.
>>121465932Nice. I got a thing of his (+ Elgar) violin sonatas yesterday. Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm excited to! Haven't heard anything of his before.
>>121465155Not Couperin again! You had him last month. We want William Byrd.
>they can't improvise polyphonic textures> They think they know how to make music
>>121465986Ralph Vaughan Williams is addicting. If you haven't heard his "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis" you must, it's amazing. This performance is pretty good if you want to watch one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3nxOF8wnMk
...I like Boulez's second piano sonata
I think I hate classical music
>>121466130based
>>121466130not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>121466079Thank you RYM sister
>>121466130Listen to Poulenc concerto for two pianos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VSj7bSsfo
>>121465876CAN I GET AN ACTUAL ANSWER YOU MOTHERFUCKER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>121466075Halfway though, I really enjoy it! Am definitely gonna explore more of his work. Probably not until I clear more of the current list of new music I already have stacked up haha.
>>121466296Yea, that's the thing with classical music. There is just so much of it it always feels like you're missing something great (which is often the case but there's only so much time in a day). And also classical music takes repeated listening to really appreciate and get the most out of it, so more time again. Enjoy.
>>121466279Harnoncourt or Harry.
>>121466337Exactly. I've been doing my best by listening to like 12-14 hours a day worth for the past few months, lol, I've been positively hooked. Probably gonna get back into reading soon and a job a 'lil after that so it'll be even more disquieting with less time for all the music, haha.
Realistically speaking, did Beethoven really write a Sonata better than Moonlight Sonata? Hammerklavier is absolutely out of the question. Otherwise last 5 are fine but barely touch Moonlight Sonata.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIUlIfRpKkk
>>121466463No. 17 is tough competition for Moonlight.
>>121466463braindead bait
>>121466463An excellent question sisters
>>121466463No. I don't think so.
I really only like the first minute or so of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNfpMRSCFPETchaicovsky should have just made this a 3-5 minute piece rather than try and stretch it out to 40 minutes
https://youtu.be/c66uGCSoBuA?si=BUoBp87eim9IUUwM
>>121467356>WAS THIS LEGAL!?
>>121466463hammerklavier obviously. Also 30, 31, and 32 are all superior.
A couple months back I listened to mostly solo piano works, and then in the time since it's flipped; I think I'm starting to feel and hear it beginning to switch back, as strings are starting to sound a little less appealing each day and I'm listening to solo piano music more before bed. Anyone else like this?
>>121466079Get in line, bub
>>121466507Not classicaljvvs
>>121466130You mean after years of enjoying it? That painting is rather obscure.
now playing.been a while since I've heard Shostakovich's 2nd cello concerto, time to see if it's better than the 1st.
Also, autist-anon, you were right about Jochum's Mass in B Minor, I prefer it to Klemperer's. Is the EMI Jochum recording better?
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpXHoWc3lO4
I wish there were more slow tempo recordings of Le Tombeau de Couperin because it's sounds more whimsical and less frantic that way. I like this one by Gieseking despite the audible cracking. The one by Crossley is also nice, it sounds somewhat dull.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs12jzXECfg
>>121470562kek
>>121470641>Arthur Rubinstein, who recounted in his book My Many Years a conversation with Gieseking in which Gieseking said, "I am a committed Nazi. Hitler is saving our country." well well well
Favorite pianist for Liszt's works? For whichever one, or in general, or for some. Spending some of the night comparing recordings myself -- Bolet has a ton of great reviews.
>>121468122Yes, me. I love solo piano music, sonatas etc almost exclusively. I'm kind of getting back into symphonies though - slowly. Some piano quartets / quintets have also been appealing to me lately which I've never really listened to.
>>121471356Arrau's Liszt Sonata is one of the best out there.
>>121471356>>121471448Oh and you must hear Roberto Szidon play the rhapsodies.
>>121471448Ah yeah Arrau is what started my love for Liszt many years ago, I believe with the Transcendental Etudes. I did listen to his Sonata in B Minor the other day, fantastic! Obviously. I'm giving Berman's Annees de pelerinage a listen again right now, they're really good but I still wanna compare them to others.>>121471478I'll check it out. I saw that one but wasn't sure which one to pick so I saved the Campanella one put out by Decca.
>>121471507The Szidon is different but very interesting and good. You can't have too many Rhapsodies so all is well.
>>121471426Glad to hear that last part, I adore string chamber music the most. Fortunately the piano is an incredibly versatile, deeply complex, and highly sensitive instrument or tool for creation, so being stuck in that gear isn't too much of a handicap, haha. Nice to hear others feel the same sometimes.
>>121471647Haha true. As soon as this S. 160 is finished I'll give it a listen.
Handel fucking sucks cocks
>>121471356A good question Liszt sister
>>121472169Thank you, Liszter Lizard
>>121471478>>121471647Listening to this now, it is quite excellent! Granted, it's been a longtime since I last listened to the Hungarian Rhapsodies, so if the performance is indeed 'different' or idiosyncratic I can't tell as of yet without doing further comparison. I'm really enjoying it, Liszt was truly a genius of the piano, him and Chopin share the apex summit of the instrument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX8aYU3-CRcEveryone is so weak and pathetic. Who the hell cares about inferior rodents anyway? I alone must endure as I alone have the soul of an aristocrat. You inferior insects and your whiny musings never fail to entertain me. In me dances the warrior, the conqueror, I am the Hagen who will kill Siegfried. I am the Sauron who throws the entire world into chaos. The desire to rule everything in sight. The desire to dominate and destroy any opposition. I don't care about life now, life, safety, wealth, health - these things are all trivial, all part of a Jewish circus trope for subhumans and jesters to partake in. All I want now is to have a legendary battle with a certain someone, a rival, our battle will shake the earth. The only thing to live for as this is the true meaning of life - A FUCKING BATTLE! Blow the war horns and carry me to destruction ARES!
There exists only two kinds of humans, one that enjoys and other that whines.
>>121472930>>121472948thank you wagnersisters
>>121472930>>121472948I listened to this earlier, really enjoyed it.
>>121473055>>121472948An adroit observation Wagner sister
now playing, as i try and fall asleep. g'night
>>121466463everyone who fancies themselves "serious" will tell you otherwise, but in reality, no. it's as perfect as a piece of music could possibly be
>>121471868explain this absolute banger then. seems to be named after you no lesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUMN9Un5KzE
>>121471356Horowitz
Pleyelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYMPo0WrACc
waking up to shosty's 2 and 3 -- this album cover is incredible btw
>>121474730terrible bait
Am I modernist scum if Prokofiev's October Cantata is one of my top 3 pieces of choral music?
Handelhttps://youtu.be/OFjO6hDcHf8?t=225
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Can someone recommend me stuff like this? I don't know much about classical music but I've been obsessed with like how kind of abrasively minimal and repetitive but melodic this stuff is. I also like Brahms' violin concerto.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgcR183f8gA
>>121478933https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvS4g32KpXs
>>121478933You'll love Bach's violin sonatas and partitas, as well as his violin concertos and double concerto, etc. Maybe the cello suites as well, though the cello is much less abrasive than the violin, especially in that baroque sound. Maybe Beethoven's violin sonatas but it's a duo with a piano accompaniment.If you like that Brahms violin concerto, you'll love Beethoven's and Tchaikovsky's.some links:bach's solo violin works - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i7360WV-tobach's violin concerto 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuxa7dCS2GEbach's double concerto - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZ3jMExg-Qbeethoven's violin sonata no. 9 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gai3wOjTUgsand thenbeethoven's violin concerto (two recordings, listen to a lil bit of each and pick whichever you prefer as the first one is much faster) - https://youtu.be/7PNe2LcIb6I?si=6eVCmXRAJ_-bFH17+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcHS45OMAUtchaikovsky's violin concerto - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHS0-u_hEohope you enjoy! lemme know if these were any good for you
>>121478933>>121479039oh and the first two of Bach's cello suites (no. 1 and 2) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q1zjjMSc-k
Villa-Lobos' Rudepoema (played by Hamelin) is great.
>>121479092Cheesy cover
>>121479567Yea but it fits the music honestly. It's kind of primitive / primal etc.
>>121465155someone please rec me recordings to start listening to>Couperin>Dvorak>Bartok>Stravinsky>Cowell
>>121479633I'll probably get dragged for this but I always start off by going to RYM and listening to the recordings with the most ratings and go from there
>>121479711thank you RYMsister
>>121478398it's not bait anon, it's true. we're continually distracting ourselves along the path of life. perfection is simplicity
>>121479859dogshit bait
>>121479633>>Bartok
>>121479633
>>121468986>That painting is rather obscure.He listened to Sibelius' Second Symphony. Not exactly obscure.
>>121480337I didn't make that post!
>>121474730>>121479859>t. Poptimist who thinks all music should pull their attention towards it and that the listener should never make an effort to focus on its complexity, fundamentaly meaning they're a lazy laissez-faire hippie who misunderstands every nuance in art and uses it only to please himselfgo listen to Cage if you think "simpler=better" is a universal constant that applies to every piece, you deaf snail
>>121479633for couperin there's not really any other comparable optionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b490Mb9CCDU
You guys fuck with Elliot Carter?
>>121480886excellent question RYMsister
>>121480376Kek.
>>121480337What does that have to do with the painting of Sibelius and Kajanus?
>>121480886Dimestore Schoenberg
>>121481092RYM doesnt like Carter sister>>121481157This retard doesnt even understand Schoenberg
listening to Bach and Dvorak while watching the NBA playoffs on mute
>>121481503so true RYMsister
Celebrating Hitler's birthday by listening to the greatest of all time, and to his favorite, Richard Wagner.
>>121482153thank you wignat wagnersister
Not really classical but I don't know where to ask.This soundtrack from Ennio Morricone features some cheesy Ride of the Valkyries inspired jingle.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vo9J26PdMMAny of you know what kind of instrument that was?
>>121482153cringe classical tourist probably just listening to the overtures>>121482811based schoenberg enjoyer sucking on toes
>>121482811Are Mahler and Schoenberg the most footpilled composers?
>>121482811>>121482852>>121482889Thank you RYM sisters
>>121482153keyed>>121482811locked
>>121483343thank you wagnersister
Haven't followed the classical world in a while whatever happened to Currentzis?
>>121481503I understand Schoenberg perfectly. It may be Carter that I am mistaken about.
>>121483372A startling possibility RYM sister
Which composer relied the most heavily on theory to write music?
now playingHave only heard the Emerson recording of the Art of Fugue arranged for string quartet, so I'm excited to listen to this one and then the Delme Quartet's version at a later point.
Just listened to Sibelius 5th for the first time, what did I think of it?
>>121483493Nonsense question
>>121483792saccharine slop
are there any actual, definitive biographies or reading on Shostakovich's life that isnt muddled by Ideological waffling? Or is Shosty's story just forever untranslatable to western audiences?
>>121483940Although you could probably reduce the number who didn't reply at all upon theory to the likes of hacks like Cage.
>>121484008The Sound of Time - Julian Barnes
>>121484010Rely*, bloody autocorrect
>>121484008Shosty The Snowman
>>121484010Don't forget the opposite, hacks like Schoenberg who use theory too mucg
>>121484151Schoenberg was derided for eschewing theory and wrote music for a decade without any kind of discernible system. And if he is such a hack, why can't AI copy him?
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnzK62w17s
>>121484236They can with ease
>>121484281I tried to get Suno to make any atonal music at all and it didn't even come close to sounding like Webern or Carter, let alone Schoenberg
>>121484250Goodman doesn't understand the period.
>>121482811almost based, but the generic anime girl footfaggotry makes this even cringrier than the Hitlerfag. Consider following Adolf's example and ending yourself!
>>121482615not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?>>121482811thank you tranime sister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8uNw-LzSEWagner and homosexuality, everything else is irrelevant. An excruciating death to all straight-subhumans. The new dawn is coming and with it comes the extinction of all objective ugliness. Only masculine objective beauty will endure.
Glen Gould's favourite composer of all time was an early 17th century English composer called Peter Ian Stakerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7DJhZeC9MQ
You have 60 seconds to explain why you haven't kissed yourself in the mirror or masturbated to Wagner yet.
>>121484715Honestly I've not heard any Wagner except Ride of the Valkyries I've just never got round to it
>>121484783Listen to the preludes and overtures
>>121484783What the hell is wrong with you? Do you really hate yourself this much as to avoid the allure of Wagner? Leave this site immediately and go listen to Lohengrin. Your body and mind needs to be caressed and only Wagner should act as your masseur. https://youtu.be/eO7R4Etgg0Q?si=cefQZ9G1scBKVxgO&t=2444
the wagnerian is off his meds again
Wagner is not about sex. Take your medications retards.
>>121485054iykyk
It's a shame there doesn't seem to be any videos of the pianist Yuja Wang playing Debussy
>>121485285xex
>>121485285i can assure you there are plenty
>>121484713Based Gould. Didn't know about Ian Staker.
Best/favorite conductors for Haydn's symphonies? I'm listening to Munchinger's recordings of the 96 + 104 right now and it's pretty good. I also see on Amazon one Colin Davis is the the lead suggestion with tons of great reviews but some mixed ones as well, recommending some others on a piece by piece basis. What do you guys think?
>>121484713The composer of the piece from the video is "Orlando Gibbons" not "Peter Ian Staker" who I can't even find as a composer.
>nitroflarePippo might as well just delete the whole blog desu this shit is unusable.
Hurwitz got his cat and fat man boobies jiggling on camera!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_vIM2XCB2k
HWABAG
>>121484713This has somehow played perfectly on my phone with no ads for 20 minutes now, yet that Schoenberg, Webern, Berg trash loaded them every 2 minutes. And this is MILES better. It kinda sounds like Bocchi the Rock!
>>121485640>>121484713>Peter Ian StakerCornetto trilogy reference. "Pisstaker"
>>121485775Well it actually didn't, there was ads that played on it sadly
>>121485321extraordinarily foul
>>121485775And I stand by the original comment. The original Star Wars are excellent films with an excellent soundtrack. I'd rather listen to something that's considered plebian that I find enjoyable, than something that sounds nonsensical and is just intellectuals wanking off and huffing their own farts about how intellectual and avant garde their music is. Having said that I do get a kick out of listening to those kind of composers
>>121485713dope thanks, will check out this recording>>121485870:(I actually changed to the 7th instead but still Gergiev.
>>121485871not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?>>121485890quite rancid
>>121485871>I'd rather listen to something that's considered plebian that I find enjoyableeveryone is like that.>than something that sounds nonsensical and is just intellectuals wanking off and huffing their own farts about how intellectual and avant garde their music is.and no one is like this.this "pretending to enjoy something" phenomenom is much rarer than people on /mu/ make it out to be. you made up a fantasy where people here dislike star wars music and like whatever you don't like because of some perceived social status instead of the music itself, but it's not like that: they honestly think star wars music sounds lame while the pieces you dislike are much more interesting. there's no fart huffing involved
>>121486264The original comment was about Magnard and how it sounded a little some of the music in Star Wars. Serialist music is unquestionably more interesting sounding than Magnard but it sounds terrible. It's just disgusting music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4Lxm3IpvY
>>121486465>it sounds terrible. It's just disgusting musicwell not to me or multiple other people. I like the "chromatic", edgy sound of many serialist pieces. It frequently sounds "purr" to me next to tonic music, where the many keys would already inherently give off a feeling of their own. I like how serialist music can't be carried by that, so it does wilder things to compensate.
>>121486676>purr*pure. I'm not a cat.
Musica Ricercatahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkKV0Ze1Z6M
>>121486676Yes, I cannot get into the Grosse Fuge no matter how many times I listen, it's just harshly dissonant but I really find atonal music potentially transcendental, depending on the level of craftsmanship. It really seems like a music of idea to me as opposed to sphere music; the music of nature.
>>121487017The 7th movement is really beautiful.
>>121486465not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>121487097Please recommend me an atonal piece that you find transcendental.
>>121487222https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Gb0UkJlsIhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y0lQUQzmD-8
>>121480886Yea
>>121479004>>121479039thank you very much. I'll be parsing these all weekend
>>121487422so true RYMsister
>>121487327That is transcendent. Transcendentally shit.
>>121487778If you're that anon, then I expected you to say this in the first place. I was just setting you up, wasn't I?
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzAmxHAXVRQ
Trying out someone new for Chopin. Very aggressive style for the etudes, has a certain appeal for sure while not the 'traditional' Chopin.
Looking for something with a timpani feature, probably an ostinato figure, possibly duet texture with accompaniment from the orchestra, heavy
>>121488611The mixolydian chord change gives it away
>>121488611Please post download links
>>121488910>Can't download from YouTubeYikes
>>121488611>not calling it Westphalen Overture
>>121489060so true tranime sister
>>121488611I've unironically been listening to this stupid shit on repeat for the last 10 minutes. It's fucking over for composer chuds. Over for any other music creators too.
>>121487097>like a music of idea to me as opposed to sphere music; the music of nature.What do you mean?
>>121488611Chudwig van Sneedover huh? I can't say I've heard of him.
>>121489479it's AI you fucking retard
>>121489531>what is irony
>>121489479He was a student of Johannn Sebastian Blacked
>>121489588>Johannn Sebastian BlackedI enjoy his earlier stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONc4sSXuQUY
>>121490706Kek magnificently done!
>>121484676I don't want to make a thread just for this question.We're on /mu/ anyway so I don't really understand what you're trying to say.
>>121491069It’s an excellent question sister
>>121491493Terrible post sister
>>121492230I apologize sister
Now playing: Gurrelieder by Arnold Schönberghttps://www.br-klassik.de/programm/radio/ausstrahlung-3463688.html
>>121492292Your apology is accepted sister
>>121492292>>121493089UwU sistersssss rec some Wagner OwO
Damn I actually quite enjoyed Schoenberg’s Chamber Symphony No 2- the first part Andante. The second part was a little sillyhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u_gUCda-K0w&pp=ygUiY2hhbWJlciBzeW1waG9ueSBuby4gMiBzY2hvZW5iZXJnIA%3D%3D
Bach’s Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue in D minor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lHTMq-5B9Co&pp=ygUWYmFjaCBjaHJvbWF0aWMgZmFudGFzeQ%3D%3DWunderbar
Luigi Nono sounds like the name of the local Italian sex offender
I think I've listened to this Julliard SQ rendition of the Art of Fugue three times through now in a day, and now as I'm waking up.
>>121491069not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>121496599If this is autist-anon, I finally listened to the Richter Mass in B minor yesterday and it's now definitively my favorite recording. Thanks for suggesting it.
a Bach cantata a day keeps the Glenn Ghoul away! probably gonna listen to BWV 51.
>>121496658Jauchzet!
>>121496658Why not go for BWV 54https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoz8u7R-aQs
>>121496779Ah it's the Ghoul! Just kidding, I'll give that performance a listen after I finish the Richter 51, thanks.>>121496740Yessir!
>>121496806Immensely fascinating and illuminating introductory speech by Gould, thank you for sharing.
>>121496779Whoops, this reply >>121496991 was meant to quote your post.
Is there a reason why sister poster doesn't like Wagner?
Favorite conductor of Mozart's symphonies, particularly the more famous masterpieces? Loving Klemperer, just curious if I should try any others out.
>>121497776Walter
>>121497307You know what he's going to say right?
>>121497951Cool, thanks. Just grabbed this and listening to the 36th.
>>121498004>so true wagnersisterOr something like that, I was hoping to hear some criticism or any anecdote that would explain his dislike towards Wagner but I guess we will never know.
now playingI realize I have been severely lacking in my having listened to general orchestral works, so I'll probably be leaning into that for a bit.
>>121480808you are arguing with a strawman, but you are also bitter enough that this may be the best course of events
>>121498787I vastly prefer this to Tchaikovsky's symphonies. The tighter, exciting rhythm and robust, immediately realized melodies result in more enjoyable music.
>>121494519Good taste, fren
>>121496599This is /mu/.
>>121499648"This is /mu/?"Says who?I read /classical/,Don't you?
>>121499648>>121499704I'm just teasing. Hopefully someone here can help answer your question, don't mind the autist-spammer-anon.
>>121498057>>121497307he hates trannies and Wagner but lets them both live rent free in his head and thinks Wagner is some sort of trans icon because one transsexual YouTuber commented something positive in a Wagner recording once
Listening to Bartok's string quartets and eating a sandwich do not mix well together at all, lol.
>>121498839half the people who come into this thread are the kind who only like what I find to be slop, and insist I only pretend to like what I like, of course I'm bitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQE5TYnD58k This piece is like the musical equivalent of punching yourself in the balls as you ejaculate
How do I learn composition? Is it just a matter of analyzing scores and experimenting? I'm reasonably experienced with basic counterpoint and I know my tones but in terms of formalisms and practice I'm lackingId like some basic structures I can play around with a lot but I can't find any books on this so I'm probably going to analyze Mozart and derive them myself Id really like some links to granular analysis of classical works like note for note harmonic analysis so I can check my knowledge against something
>>121497776Markevitch has a really good performance of the Prague symphony here. Other than him Sandor Vegh, Harnoncourt (if you're in to HIP), and Talich (if you don't mind old meme recordings) are all solid. Some people swear by Bohm too but I never got into his Mozart as much.
>>121500155Thank you, I'll check out his Prague later today, and perhaps a dabbling of the rest as well.
>>121499933Just do what this anon does >>121488611>>121490706 and do AI shit
>>121499648>>121499744not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?>>121499765so true schizo sister
>>121490706>BWV 69https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADtEx_7CvWwnice aria
>>121485593Sad that no reply.
>>121500823This post >>121485713 was meant as a reply I believe.
Conductors Gone Wild:https://youtu.be/E9PiL5icwic?t=842
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m4RXnx-VaA
>>121494629Schiff plays this so well.
>>121500155Finishing up listening to the Prague from that recording, really enjoy it.
Scriabin, Zorn >>>>>> rest
>>121502098so true scriabincel RYMsister
The Amadeus SQ recording of Beethoven's 7th SQ is pretty good. Haven't yet decided on a favorite ensemble for early-to-mid quartets, still in the process of trying out various ones.
>>121502259>RYMsisterI've never used that site in my life. You can call me something else. Hint: I like Satanism, Occultism.
>>121465430A living composer would never be programmed as much as Beethoven for the simple reason that Beethoven is programmed so often due to his music being in the public domain. Orchestras already strapped for cash are not going to shell out for part rentals when Beethoven's music is free and gets butts in seats. If retards stopped loudly announcing that all newly composed music is just random notes maybe the wider public would be a little more likely to show up for premieres
Is there a site dedicated to good transfers of old recordings? Some of these remasters FUCKED the recordings up man
>>121502501I don't think so hahaha
>>121502501>all newly composed music is just random notesBut it's true.Also, can't you make your music public domain by yourself? If you want to get attention instead of $$ I think composers would prefer that.
>>121502481thank you underage retard
>>121502501lol, this fucking idiot doesnt realize that major orchestras and chamber groups regularly program (horrible) newly commissioned music alongside the standard repertoire at almost every concert now. in fact, they go out of their way to program new music right before the intermission and save beethoven and mozart for after so that people are forced to sit through new music to get to the part anyone actually cares about.
>>121488611Impressive
>>121502501The performers hate it more than the audience lmao
>>121502505https://www.youtube.com/@donaldherbertholmes6228also check archive.org by artist
Listening to Boulez's Mahler 4 right now, and wow, the way his interpretation might be my new favorite. Gonna have to listen to the rest of his recordings.On that note, I noticed there doesn't seem to be one of him doing Mahler 3. Who would you guys recommend for that one?
>>121502505An intriguing question HISter sister
>>121503133quite disgusting
>>121503133forgot pic
what is bach's worst composition?
>>121503145I know, I'm quite disgusted with myself for how long I waited to finally try out his Mahler, because Boulez is my favorite for Scriabin's orchestral music so I already knew I loved his conducting.
>>121503189totally retarded
>>121503204Nah, I'm having that cured by Boulez's Mahler 4 right now!
>>121502683But I'm not underage, sis.>>121503160His Cantatas are the worst. Utterly boring and even annoying.
>>121503232utterly moronic>>121503260thank you underage retard
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>>121503294thank you tranime sister
>>121503350not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
Why are Bruckner and Celibadache such a great match? They have completely different artistic goals.
>>121503786because you are retarded
>>121503867He has the best Bruckner and it's not even close.
>>121503786I'll have to give his a try, I've only heard Jochum for Bruckner.
>>121503891unfathomably idiotic>>121503904big mistake
>>121504009kek it's not gonna hurt me if I don't like it
>>121504044surprisingly incorrect
>>121504075octopus oligarchy
>>121484250This is honestly the worst rendition of this I heard. The playing is like a buzzsaw cutting through the orchestra.
>>121504247nonsense as always
>>121504556cavernous croutons
>>121504762nonsense as always
now playing, trying out a different Brahms violin concerto and double concertoalso, what a lewd album cover.
And, at the tired end, when most sound exhausting and dull, I find myself returning and seeking refuge in the forever lively music of Bach.
What do you guys think of Philip Glass?
>>121505725GOATed with the sauce
>>121505725>>121505810thank you RYMsisters
>>121505548mongolian mongoose
>>121505725Abhorrent poptimist sloppa
>>121505982puritanical polygamist!Aiight, no more.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVHG4ZIQFWM
>>121507441Stop posting this trash.
>>121507441Keep posting this trash.
>>121507518>>121507597sisters...
Is prokofiev the summit of classical or is there a prokofiev after prokofiev I missed?
>>121508569excellent question slave virtuososlop worshipper
>>121503133It's my go-to recording for M4. The pace of the slow movement is perfect.
>>121509122really just stupid
>The most tremendous genius raised Mozart above all masters, in all centuries and in all the arts. A light, bright, fine day this will remain throughout my whole life. As from afar, the magic notes of Mozart's music still gently haunts me. He is the highest, the culminating point that beauty has attained in the sphere of music as for one moment in the history of music all opposites were reconciled; all tensions resolved; that luminous moment was Mozart.>Mozart creates music from a mysterious center, and so knows the limits to the right and the left, above and below. He maintains moderation. It always sounds unburdened, effortless, and light. This is why it unburdens, releases, and liberates us. He never abandons himself to any one sense; even at his most ecstatic moments his mind is vigorous, alert, and on the wing. He dives unerringly on to his finest ideas like a bird of prey, and once an idea is seized he soars off again with an undiminished power. It does not give the listener time to catch his breath, for no sooner is one inclined to reflect upon a beautiful inspiration than another appears, even more splendid, which drives away the first, and this continues on and on, so that in the end one is unable to retain any of these beauties in the memory. It is particularly difficult to perform.
>His admirable clarity exacts absolute cleanness: the slightest mistake in it stands out like black on white. It is music in which all the notes must be heard. Free of all exaggeration, of all sharp breaks and contradictions. The sun shines but does not blind, does not burn or consume. Heaven arches over the earth, but it does not weigh it down, it does not crush or devour it. Easy to read, but very difficult to interpret. The least speck of dust spoils them. They are clear, transparent, and joyful as a spring, and not only those muddy pools which seem deep only because the bottom cannot be seen. His simplicity is merely purity. It is a crystalline thing in which all the emotions play a role, but as if already celestially transposed. Moderation consists in feeling emotions as the angels do.>Mozart makes you believe in God because it cannot be by chance that such a phenomenon arrives into this world and leaves such an unbounded number of unparalleled masterpieces. It represents neither the prolonged sigh of faith that characterizes so much of the music written before his time, nor the stormy idealism which cloaks most music after him. Rather he is that mercurial balance of the skeptic and the humane. Like him, and in him, we can always discover new worlds.- Maho Hiyajo
>>121509733>>121509744thank you tranime sister
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>it's another wagner edition
>>121511131not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/pol/ instead?
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>>121507441>Already used the "it's over" meme>Not SneedoveNOne job!
