Dithering EditionDithering is a processing technique that helps us maintain the quality of digital media like audio, images, and even video. However, it achieves this in a way that might sound surprising, and even counterintuitive: by adding a small amount of noise throughout the entire file.>Production Resources:http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comRemember to use vocaroo.com to post your tracks/WIP: posting a vocaroo is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.Remember to check other peoples' vocaroo links to keep the thread healthy.Previous Thread:>>121417137
https://vocaroo.com/17ntbJW93iC1I'm not sure where to go from this point? It feels like its at its natural conclusion, but 1:30 seems too short
can someone ear check if these are the notes being played in the sample i've created with ai?ai sample:https://voca.ro/1l2dNvRvOAawmy recreation:https://voca.ro/1j3MLLVJZP4Z
>>121495722>Ditheringtl;dr dither when going down to a lower sample rate how the fuck are you going to bring it up and leave that outat least you got the pasta so gj
>>121495849i just copied the definition from splice. The idea is to at least start to get anons aware of dithering since most don't understand why the option is there in daws and what the consequences are of using it
https://voca.ro/1nCpERj2X97nAdded a tuba.I've spent so long perfecting this section (chorus 2 or 3 + bridge + outro) that I don't know how to make it into a full track. Any ideas? Also don't know if I want vocals yet, but I'm leaning towards it, so could maybe just get away with playing chords during the verses and a softer drum beat.
>>121495722Based effortposter OP being a ray of hope for the thread and the world
>>121495722>short live techno set i did with modular and digitakt https://vocaroo.com/1n7A8iFNZAR7anyone else making techno or using modular?
At what time of day and time of the week do you guys produce most often
>>121498542all day every day whenever free time
>>121498542I wish I could just wake up and produce in the morning. I can't focus on producing or practicing my instrument until after I go for a walk or go to the gym. So it's usually early to late afternoon. I need to burn my energy so I can sit and focus.
Beyond a new vocal what does this need? https://vocaroo.com/13znG5qaqPEt>Slowcore>Nugaze(Also, unrelated. I'm moving to Philly Soon. Anybody know good websites for finding rooms/apartments? Or anybody know some musicians looking for a roommate?)
About to bite the bullet and buy Cubase on sale for ~250 bucks.Talk me out of it.
>>121495722I've gone insane, I have an individual delay on every instrument so I can sidechain it to the instrument for complete control, I want to do that with reverb aswell but there's to few channels in on the mixer so I have to be content with just a instrument bus reverb
>>121499099I've been using cubase for the last 2 months or so and I love it. the difference to me is that the daw feels the most musical out of any on the market, like it was made by musicians for musicians. the midi editing is the best out of any daw imo and the stock plugins are all top class
>>121498542In the evenings. I need to be relaxed, undisturbed and focused. Otherwise I just don't get anything done.
Does anyone know how to load expansion packs onto the MPC one? I downloaded one from inmusic and it came as a .pak file. I know when I’ve bought 3rd party that they come in .zip files.
>>121499445I am finding Groove Agent confusing as fuck to use compared to Kong (Reason) that I'm more used to. I compose with MIDI a lot though, and Cubase does seem to have a very comprehensive MIDI editor. Plus, Iconica Sketch is pretty fun to mess around with and is a lot less limited than the free BBSO Discovery that I tried using a couple months ago. You could probably get away with "proper" orchestra scoring with just using Iconica alone. I do want to dip my toes into orchestration, might be a good way to start?idk, I'm torn overall. I find Cubase a bit obtuse to use so far (and a little bit jank), but at the same time it has most of the features I'm after. Their convoluted licensing puts me off as well, even while opening the demo version I got a licensing error once already. Kinda retarded, reminds me of using ProTools...(fuck ProTools)Is there a good community for the Cubase newfags to post?The ReasonTalk forum is pretty chill, but the Cubase official forum is mostly technical Q&A posts.
I have a Kontakt instance on my master effect rack that crashes FL when I try to remove it
>>121499690groove agent does everything kong does and more, you just need to sit down and spend time watching a video on a full walkthrough. there are no excuses: everything is there. cubase is unrivaled for orchestra composing so it's a no brainer making the switch if you plan on dabbling in thatlook up the "cubase nation" discord. it's a great resource and you have people in there answering any noob question within the same day, along with tons of great resources
>>121499758it's the inconsistency of GA that gets to me. I load up an 'acoustic agent' kit and it then doesn't allow me to change the samples?It looks like it lets me, but doesn't actually change them. Apparently working as intended it's just a UI quirk making it look like that works.Find it awkward navigating GA's UI in general, especially compared to Kong. I'm sure I'll get used to it with time, but I can see myself mostly exporting grooves out of GA and staight into the MIDI editor instead, as well as using external FX routing since the GA routing is convoluted by comparison, needing too many clicks to achieve the same result.At least you can drag-and-drop a groove into the MIDI editor/sequencer, that's nice.>look up the "cubase nation" discordThanks. Will do at some point.
The hell is this?
this one's for png mafia nonhttps://vocaroo.com/1efvbBqMXPmm(str8 to the trash number 2 of the day, and we keep going...)
>>121499708Try moving the Kontakt plugin (the dll or vst3 file - enable "View File Extensions" so you can see which files these are) out of its usual folder to a temporary location so that FL can't find it and can't load the instance. It'll grumble and might try to auto-detect where it has been moved to, but don't let it do that.Remove the orphaned instance of Kontakt from the effect rack and save the FL project as a new file, should work as long as it was Kontakt causing the problem, if it still crashes even with Kontakt no longer loading then you'll need to dig further, does FL create backups when you save?
I have been "training" to sing soad songs with my cousin for fun and last time we tried went so fucking bad. I got so fucking nervous, shivering as fuck, missing a lot. The other times we tried we were a bit drunk and I was trying just for the lulz and it was so fucking fun.Now I'm so fucking embarassed. He jammed all the weekend and I was too scared to try again.
>>121499885honestly not even sure what you're yapping about. you can just load reason rack as a plugin, pull up kong, can program it in cubase. reason rack is the entirety of reason without the sequencer and mixer. I use reason rack on almost every project I do in cubase
First beat I made. I know it doesnt really pop but I dont know how to mix anywayhttps://voca.ro/1mI8LjNQDuuI
>>121495748It's simple, but an effective buildup. It needs a melody; introduce one, and it would be solid. Only critique is that the reverb on the kick is muddy. Cut the lows on the reverb and it would remedy that.>>121495785Close enough. The rhythm is off, though.>>121495894The main percussion rhythm is too syncopated sounding for the symphonic intensity of the melody, though it sounds good once the second section comes in. A less modern/pop-y sound would change the mood significantly, unless you're really just going for campy fun. Honestly, though, when listening, I can't really think of any lines that would sound better. When it comes to expanding it, you're going to need to define a purpose for the piece. You've set up a bridge to a next sequence, but what is the next sequence for? The simple and catchy main section is enough on its own and sounds lighthearted, then it gets intense-yet-hopeful. If it's getting darker each section, why not just go full on dramatic for the next bit?>>121498891 For the genres you've listed, it sounds complete, except for what you pointed out. It's ambient, but needs a melody to pull it together.Here's mine, an attempt at stringing together something over a jumping chord progression:https://voca.ro/1neuH8jvB01x
>>121495748i would boost the drone/bass thing you have
>work is keeping my only music friend irl busyHe hasn't produced or practiced in a while. I miss when we were bouncing ideas back and forth
>>121500965nice work dude, I like the atmosphere. keep it up
working on a bladee trance remix. just feedback on the first breakdown is fine, thankshttps://vocaroo.com/1lePS4aZoVxD>>121501233really cool rhythms in this and good harmonies. feels a bit too JRPG in terms of the melodies but that might just be the sounds you're using>>121500965keep going! sounds good but the melody is really really thin. maybe add another layer that's playing the same thing an octave lower?>>121500184crazy FX, what are you using to get that kind of bitrotted flanging?
promo is a thousand times more difficult than learning how to make good music
>>121503503>flangingif you mean that high pitched grinding throughout, it's just a shaperbox time thing I did that made the pitch go up.It barely mattered but it was a wubby patch from either vital or operator, idr
got up early and managed to not stay in bed all day and yet uuuuuhhhhh feeellllls (bad)https://vocaroo.com/19M9LnqhEjoa
>have a buddy who has been doing music prod by himself for a long time>I myself finally get into it recently>he gets excited and we chat about it a few times>starts not responding to my messages about progress and stuff I've donemakes me sad because I wanted to do what you said, bounce ideas and collaborate. each to their own I guess
https://voca.ro/1bZRcX5RWh8HAny tips or opinions on this beat?
>>121505603overplaying the drums
>>121505696What do you mean?
>>121505732drums are too busy. playing too often. not enough space. does not create a good flow.
>>121505876Oh ok I thought it sounded nice
what happened to the /prod/ discord server?
>>121505603>https://voca.ro/1bZRcX5RWh8HI think it's alright, I don't think the drums are too busy.>>121500184is this death grips? (I love this,sounds more like flatlander than jpeg tho)two things I'm probably throwing away but I had funhttps://vocaroo.com/14U1Hoo2bNbqhttps://vocaroo.com/1fd5r68bTmld
>>121506600i like
Where are you lads getting your pirated software? The Ableton Live 12 Beta I got off rutracker "expired" when it shouldn't have; the program would not run.
>>121508768rutracker.
>>121509011The Ableton Live 12 Beta I got off rutracker "expired" when it shouldn't have. Is there a better Ableton Live off rutracker that you use?
>>121509046just pick the non beta retard. Simple as.
>>121509163Wtf it got out of beta never knew. Thanks asshole.
>>121495722what do you complete cunts think of my new songhttps://voca.ro/191Z1eZ7QiXo
>>121506600This got too busy too fast but maybe I can salvage something from it tomorrowhttps://vocaroo.com/13hqgQOMTKx5>>121506782thanks!
>>121501233>Here's mine, an attempt at stringing together something over a jumping chord progression:>https://voca.ro/1neuH8jvB01xbeautiful jazzy chiptune sound. go upload it to opengameart.org, do some basic networking, and get that once in a lifetime gig with some indie game that sells a billion copies and lets people buy the soundtrack separate (a good legal team will make sure you own all of that)
>>121501233>The rhythm is off, thoughdamnit okay thank you
>fall into le focusrite + amplitube meme>it sounds like crapi hate you
>>121495722>emo folk, lo-fiworkin on this master. acceptable for release??? any tweaks please say nowtrying to kick elliott smith's ass and make an honest woman of amber heard
>>121515870oop forgot to add the link lolhttps://vocaroo.com/16sHJ42t09u7
>>121515884ACTUALLY FORGET THAT ONE, *THIS ONE* IS IT -- VOCAL FORWARD, GUITAR SOLO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, LOW SLUNG, BIG TITTYhttps://vocaroo.com/14Zbr2YIHrja
>>121515884I would love this with like... a very different performance.Can't put my finger on what exactly it is- part of it is the mix being smashed, part of it is the vocals and playing being so steady... it should be much more dynamic.The song is there on paper but with the way it's played, I can only remember halves of phrases after having just listened to it.Sorry if that sounds harsh- I usually wouldn't reply at all but I think this could be legitimately good.Rip elliot fuckkk
>>121516220>https://vocaroo.com/14Zbr2YIHrjamofuckin vocal frylock over here
>>121516245very fairi think our cover is a solid improvement on the original's production https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6k2imj5NoUthere IS dynamics baked into OUR recording, but i've been trying to master it to -5.5 loudness penalty and idk, it's hard to get it LOUD + dynamic when the arrangement is what the arrangement is. part of it as well is i removed all the dynamics from the vocal using melodyne's note levelling feature + oeksound soothe so that it would feel a lil more pillowy/chillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuizNQUOFCI^ idk if it can compete with current pop but i'm hoping that as a production it's at least beating elliott smith 'speed trials' + the original version of this song linked above. idk....... I DO GET WHAT YOU MEAN. just idk if i can stray too much from the arrangement. ARGH. I WILL TRY MORE STUFF TOMORROW>>121516261maybe dasha can fuck me
>>121516370you being a lil silly but I like your energy
Never made garageWdythttps://voca.ro/1kFmhmd9YgqD
Never made it as a wisemanWdythttps://youtu.be/1cQh1ccqu8M
>>121513483What don't you like about it? I made the mistake of getting Bias FX and it's worse than Amplitube in my opinion. I wish I could sell that shit and get Amplitube.As for the interface, it won't have much effect on the sound. I had a Focusrite Scarlet, but sold it and got myself a MOTU for the slightly lower latency.
>>121508768try rutracker
How viable is FOSS music production on Linux? Recording live guitar, drums, vocals, and using synth plugins and such.
>>121518955>viableDoable? Obviously. *Viable*? You're just asking for trouble by being different.
>>121519113How do you mean? Are the options out there really buggy or limited?
>>121519166Questions regarding alternatives and trouble shooting workarounds what are standard choices that 99% of people will be common for you.E.g "guys what should I use instead of autotune?"If you're a linux user I'd imagine you're used to it in some way, but i'd rather just make music with the least barriers and not make things harder than they need to be for this particular hobby.There's nothing wrong in particular with just using reaper and whatever available, but if you want to be "serious" in the future, then you're starting out shooting yourself in the foot.
>>121519298I suppose, I really don't want to use proprietary crap though
instrument identification pretty pwease and thank youhttps://vocaroo.com/1aQtmkWQkJCo
anyone know what these weird sounds at 1:18 are? they sound like distorted voices and i want to replicate them with a synthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNcHa1Mig9s
>>121519787Timpani
>>121519818What's your daw?
>>121519845fl studioif it actually is distorted voices then i have vocaloid 6 and synth v
>>121519886It's just a vocal, maybe a small looped portion, with a pitch bend
>>121520078thanks
I'd love to know what you think of my new track?Thanks!https://youtu.be/Ib3ZJggG9QE
>>121501922>>121503503Thanks and I will try what you suggested
>>121520491NO SHILLING IN PRODFUCK YOU
techno? more like heck no!(mood is fucking weird today and it may be another bum one)https://vocaroo.com/18hkmVvPP0TY
>transcribe somebody's song>reverse the midi>???>profit>:)
>>121522495>auto download top songs each day under 1k listens>automate ripx to generate midi>automate fl to bend midi to a generated chord progression>automate humanization>automate ai generated vocals>automate gluing them together>profitthere is no ???, this is pretty simple
>>121522565You have 6 extra steps in there for AI slop idk why you felt the need to bother green texting such a small brain scheme
It's outhttps://dsp56300.wordpress.com/ostirus-downloads/
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https://vocaroo.com/12OIfqztwzozbah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah >>121499708kek
TWEAKIN TWEAKINhttps://vocaroo.com/1i9lJulprYW5
>>121524726Thanks, senpai. You got dat Virus TI firmware?*scratches neck and licks lips*
https://vocaroo.com/13JuVfkcApj4 i cant arrange shit lole
>>121526353https://files.catbox.moe/7ulr7s.zip
How much time do you typically spend on a track?Pic relhttps://vocaroo.com/1frlpS3wyhBL
lost about 8gb of drum and samples and one kits, so shitted at myself >.<
>>121520491im not clicking on a fuckign channel called "blonde wolf"
https://vocaroo.com/136r28oczpND
>>121522565>profitThere's your mistake.
>>121527935Either 4 hours or 40.
https://vocaroo.com/14QvGlEfiTdLbabby's 4th jungle/IDM type beat. Needs more sound effects/vocals for sure but the base of it is good enough for me to show people methinks.
Is the track gay? How do you break out of the way you normally build up songs? Do you guys have a plan for your tracks or do you just let the muse take over?https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvoca.ro%2F1dazVXaWueMq
>>121531700maybe absolution muse, but after that nah>>121529817is this IDM / jungle? Feels like dnb to me. It's not bad though.I think the amen break (in general) is just wearing on me so that could be it too. Side note, for years the only breakbeat stuff I heard was this chiptune artist sabrepulse. Legit thought he invented chopping drums because I was a dumb kid with limited internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigRAtv8Eyc
Will an element that has reverb and stereo width always appear to sound quieter than the same element without reverb and monoed? Is this purely a psychoacoustic effect, based on how our brains interpret wider sounds?
>>121531700use references bro
100% vital in 20 minutes for no reason other than idk what to make today xD (help)https://vocaroo.com/1nuoedkhdNv4
>>121495722Kinda have to be a special case of dumdum if you're not using Suno in 2024?
1 kick 1 clap nothing elsehttps://vocaroo.com/1ff7GwPWvipubrb getting screened for autism after they reup my (chem) prescription
>>121535571Dope
>>121535571Cool noises.But the real question is... You have a whole collection named TikTok?>they reup my (chem) prescription?
>>121535614>Dopeu2>>121535737>TikTok?It's for stuff novelty stuff I was intending to post, not samples lol (though that would be a good use)It's actually empty aside from a ridiculous idm death grips thing I did just because i've been focusing more on dnb/house tunes and all that lately
>>121535789What about the prescription thing?Is everything alright?
>>121535865Very dumb bait that I shouldn't expand on lolYeah everything is fine and I'm completely unmedicated lately aside from caffeine
Cubase chads, I'm having this problem where the chord track, set to play on a specific instrument, mutes all instruments (even the one that's connected to the chord track) when the chords change. This has worked fine for me before, so I've got no clue why it's doing it now.It does it even when the chord track is muted, and sometimes it doesn't do it for the very first beat of the loop. Any idea what the issue is?
>>121535918Oh good to hear lol>aside from caffeineDruggie
>>121535789What visuals do you plan on using when you post on TT?
>>121536356Low effort spam of retro game footage and anime depending on the songs.Maybe brain rot edits, but previous experience tells me that simple ass capcut edits do just as well if not better than "serious" videos of that variety so it's not worth the effort.If I left the house and became mentally stable enough to handle it I'd spam vlog as well- it's not "safe" or broadly appealing for base level numbers but I'm like 90% sure follow and conversion rate is far better for people who actually fuck with it.Honestly I fucking love(d) TT but after my niche got purged and they started making changes it's way harder to break through now. Idk if it's necessarily as big a net negative as the initial numbers would probably lead anybody to believe (mass views don't equate to anybody actually giving a fuck about you) but either way uploading and repeatedly getting stuck at 250 views is extremely discouraging.I haven't been paying attention lately so idk what the meta for the algorithm right now is honestly.
>buy cubase crossgrade download code from andertons>3 days later they still haven't sent me anythingthe fuck are they doing?
>>121527935
>>121527935bro you goofed dumping that much time into it honestly
how old were you guys when you started music prod?i started at 31 and am having fun at 33
>>121537323Started fucking around at 13, then started taking it seriously at 19, and now I'm definitely not having fun at 30.
https://vocaroo.com/1e16X3JDKRQ5any potential here?
>>12153732326 and I'll be 28 this year. It only been a year since I turned 27 last year so it probably makes more sense to say 27.
>>121536833Thank you for the insight.What about simple visualizers?Something silly likehttps://youtu.be/hRBOnA0ak4whttps://youtu.be/LDDWf1uoNckOr the typical visualizers that official uploads have on YouTube.>uploading and repeatedly getting stuck at 250 views is extremely discouraging.Don't know if it also applies to TT, but many successful YouTubers upload to basically no viewers for years until one video gets traction and they ride the wave to a full career.I think that phase is all practice for getting better at making the videos and to get a better sense of what works and what doesn't.Being consistent with it undoubtedly multiplies your chances at having at least one video get traction. It's the same philosophy I apply to scratch-off tickets, where I don't let a loss bring me down because I know that it's just one rep after the other, which is how I'm going to get the jackpot. If I let it discourage me I stop playing then I can't possibly win, you feel me?
>>121527816Thank you, friend. I will dedicate my trance album to Anonymous poster No. 121527816.
>>121537894>Something silly likeIf they didn't loop so quickly something like those would definitely work. Videos that reach a minute are favored now. There is some kind of repetitive content flagging/shadow-marking though, I don't know if it applies to looped visualizers like that.>basically no viewers for yearsRepeated 250~ is basically them telling you your content is shit, your content isn't *against the rules* but you're being throttled because it's distasteful, or you broke a rule/got flagged too many times and you're being punished.If it's those last two, it's essentially either considered a temporary light shadowban to warn you, or you're completely fucked and your account is basically blacklisted.No way to tell but typically you'll realize it's the latter.There are caveats like having to wait an occasional 24 hours at zero views or delays where a video gets picked up later, but generally if you've been around you'll know if you've been blacklisted.You definitely have to prove yourself by posting consistently until you gain favor, and it's longer than it used to be but it's definitely not years. -There is some crossover but it's very different from the youtube game.>scratch-off ticketsI lol'd
>>121538161Oh damn. Might be worth pirating one of those TikTok marketing/influencer courses to get a better grasp on how the algorithm works.Thank you very much.
>>121538221Maybe not a bad idea if you don't plan to just lurk yourself; they actually offer courses on the app but I'm not sure if they give them to everybody.I haven't tried any but I noticed after I did some lives while drunk my views plummeted after the first couple times (I am not interesting to watch so I thought that was all it was)- I *slightly* suspect doing them curries favor lol
new to this: how bad of an idea is recreating or remixing tracks you love to find out what really makes it work or why you love it so much
>>121538279And what about meme content?I've seen meme compilations (I assume they're all coming from TT) where this dude named Master Oogway did the ugly vs chad filter joke a million times but he had his own song in the background. He appears to be a youtuber/Internet personality so I'm not sure if those memes were enough, but I've seen other people make similar videos with his song so *shrugs*.https://youtu.be/ZTRsZdg1XGY
>>121538431such a bad idea, like totally dont do that bro you won't learn anything!
Guess I'll post this in /prod/ tooA new version of my MIDI app is out. If you haven't seen my earlier posts (or my posts on /dmp/), I'm building an app for live production. It records and loops MIDI note messages in real time. I'm open to any thoughts or feedback or feature requests.I put the download link and the "getting started instructions" at this pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LCANzbX7Demo video with audio: >>>/wsg/5524020 (it's a low effort bad one, and I'm not a real musician)https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1713911721711100.webm
>>121538434I don't follow any accounts like that and actively avoid those reddit/4chan text to speech videos so Idk anything about that side of it honestly.I'd figure that the 'view to fan' conversion rate is abysmal for that type of content though.Obviously views matter, but your content should be inviting some kind of investment from people.Hands down the biggest "problem" with using tiktok for musicians is how dispensable you are on the platform (and as an aside it's obviously why no big youtubers embraced shorts), so personally I'd avoid doing meme compilations.Obviously it depends on what your goals are though; never say never regarding any of that.-part of my problem and why I haven't bothered posting is because there's no existing niche for the type of music I actually want to post.I'm sure there's a word for it if you study marketing (I regret everything about college fuck) but the technique for that situation would be to have an entry through something tangentially related and stretching a cluster of content to include you, or vice versa.-if there's a way that meme compilations can do that for you then what I said above is moot.... I'm pretty sure the head of our communications department was completely out of it though so maybe that would have been pointless. For some reason he kept bringing up porn theaters? Like once I can understand as a slipup, but TWICE? That and all the shit he brought up was like decades out of date... eh
>>121538431It is an excellent idea and one that most people don't follow through on despite it being top tier excercising.Your ability to recreate it as a noob probably will leave you frustrated, but even just dragging a song into your DAW and taking notes on it will teach you a lot.
>>121538640>your content should be inviting some kind of investment from people.Yeah you're right.But with how hard it is to get any substantial amount of views would it work to get whatever views you can get first, and only worry about "follower quality" later? I'm worried that in trying to build things correctly from the beginning you make the first step of getting visibility much more difficult.>the technique for that situation would be to have an entry through something tangentially related and stretching a cluster of content to include you, or vice versa.Yeah I came to the same conclusion, but HOW you do that is its own separate puzzle.You want to appeal to that niche but you need to quantize yourself correctly, otherwise they might not like it enough and/or you won't be able to bring those fans over to your actual music once you transition to your "true" music (or you can just sell out indefinitely lol).I think the most effective way is to identify the core elements of that niche that its fans like and its subgenres (or other "sibling" subgenres that the niche in question is a subgenre of) tend to have in common, and build around those (perhaps staying conservatively within the genre's boundaries in the beginning), so your unique music is seen as a new style of what they already like, and once you have the foot in the door you can experiment with pushing one element or another to see how your fans respond, and ultimately wriggle yourself into your own niche, hopefully with others who have joined you and whatnot.Would you agree with this plan?I would also try to integrate popular trendy stuff like remixing charting songs or tv shows and whatnot, but like above you need to be careful with only doing it with stuff that your target audience is going to like.>the last paragraphLol wut?
Why don't you guys make tracks in Suno and put AI backgrounds and just dump it on Youtube in the thousands?
>>121539030And then what?
>>121539301And now what? What are you doing now lol?
>>121539030I like when my friends tell me nice things about things I worked hard on
>>121539030What would be the point of that?
>>121539359What's the point of this?
>>121539311What a stupid argument.>why don't you waste a significant amount of time doing x?>to what end?>lmao why not?If there's nothing to gain from doing work then I would rather do nothing instead.Why would I work for nothing when I could be working towards my goals?
>>121539400Hanging out.
>>121539528What are your current goals anon
My brother told me about this deep dive video he watched on the psychology of why "AI bros" legitimately see no problem with slopping out a song and dumping it out there-Like the *having* (literal possession) a song or the things they can do with a song is the end itself.It's not having fun, not self expression, not love of art or what have you.It's a furthering of the line of reasoning behind the likes of >why not just (literally) steal a song>why not just hire somebody to ghost write a song>why not just put together loops from a song kit>why learn to do anythingRegardless of how you feel about them, those people exist.I'm not one to invalidate other artists based on how they create, and there will obviously be legitimate uses of AI, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.Regardless of what they want to call themselves, there is nothing to be gained from trying to "convince" people of the value in the creative process who see art as a commodity or a means to an end rather than the end itself.-The line is not "blurred" by technology, you're just not talking to an artist; this is a quintessential "maybe gatekeeping is good?" point of contention.
>>121539599Yeah you're dumb. The point is having money, not the process of shoveling shit to get money lmfao loser. Go shovel shit.
>>121539641>The point is having moneyHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.Ahh.Good one anon. Should have just paid attention in school and become a lawyer if you cared about that.
>>121538939>get whatever views you can get first"Diverse" content isn't favored- the classic advice is to find one niche and stick to it.Afaik people don't generally pull switchups but I could be wrong. At best i'd imagine it just resets you.>Would you agree with this plan?Definitely lol. If you watch long enough you can see genres morph in real time like that and it's pretty interesting.It's like tracing the "people who liked this also liked..." effect.Honestly most of what comes to mind regarding like, hyperpop and internet hip-hop seems pretty organic though.Like it's straight up odd being in tune with this stuff and then seeing artists pop off who are clearly paying attention to or thinking the exact same thing beyond what can be attributed to algorithms just feeding more of what you want...idk man my mind is ringing now
>>121539641is trolling a music making general japanese cartoon forum really that amusing to you idgi
>>121539721I'ts an analogy. And even if it wasn't, are you eating the blip blops from fruity loops? Or are you a nepo baby?
>>121539556Not achieving youtube success on a channel that I can't get anything out of other than an amount of money that's nowhere near worth the time and effort.Even if my goal was to speedrun Windows XP Pinball it would be better than this.
>>121539722>"Diverse" content isn't favored- the classic advice is to find one niche and stick to it.>Afaik people don't generally pull switchups but I could be wrong. At best i'd imagine it just resets you.I mean building a following of just meme/funny content that happens to have your music in the background as a way to advertise the music, even if the followers aren't there for the music.Basically dedicating the whole account to shitposts.Obviously very far from ideal but I'm scared of trying to build a "musician presence" and blend into the massive crowd of musicians doing the same.Perhaps a middle ground could be to make two accounts. One for the music and one for the bullshit.Would that work with the TikTok algo?>the rest of the postYeah I have no idea about any of that lol, I'm so out of touch I'm almost an outsider artist lmao.I imperatively have to get back to paying attention lol.
>>121539970Yet people are talking about how to game Youtube algotrims in the very thread of which we hear.
>>121540089I mean yeah, I get you.There's nothing stopping you from having multiple accounts and doing both though.> "musician presence"Oh it's cringe as fuck dude.There's "producertok" where nerds twiddle with their gear just geeking out with other producers (avoid this space at all cost unless you're just trying to meet other producers), staged cringe content "hey look what just happened with our band hahaha xD" and "hi we're X and ...(please listen and click like" - which only work if you're hot and have that indie alt look.*It works* but it only works for people in a certain style.The proverbial golden goose is finding something that isn't just shoveled out slop like that that *feels* like an ad honestly. I see visual artists just showcasing their art or doing sped up "a day in the life" videos of them just painting and shit where it's actually just chill but... obviously music...I have ideas for cultivating something more akin to performance art but it's uh.... well obviously can't share it but like I think there's more room for just using TT as one facet of a larger presence rather than it just being an outlet for a certain type of content like musicians are currently using it as.>>121540094loloooookay I need to deworm my brain and play guitar for the first time in like... a month jfc
AI this AI thatokay but can I get something that spits out tabs of my recordings so I don't have to relearn songs I wrote months ago by ear because god damn
>>121540295Oh I didn't mean that type of musician content about being a musician, although that does sounds very cringy lol.I just meant posting your music and whatnot, like an account that people follow for the music, as opposed to following it for the memes/whatever and hearing your songs in the background.>I think there's more room for just using TT as one facet of a larger presence rather than it just being an outlet for a certain type of content like musicians are currently using it as.100%How many musicians get a real career out of being a full-on YouTube/TikTok music content creator? Not that many to my knowledge.It seems that successful artists use these sites to get their music out there but don't really do "content", so what you're saying is key to actually using them productively.Unless you want to make money doing producer content, which is also an option, but that's besides the point.>>121540094We're talking about using video platforms to get our music heard, not just about getting any YouTube following no matter how, just for the sake of getting a YouTube following.Unless you think you can turn an AI music channel into visibility for our non-AI music, in which case I disagree.
https://vocaroo.com/1kEDAU1U5PL8lil breaks remix 2day
>>121537372or here? this one i feel has something but is too muddy and busyhttps://voca.ro/1meqycmlypiK
>>121539753>are you eating the blip blops from fruity loops? Or are you a nepo baby?It's called a job. Bach had one, so did Monteverdi. You should give it a try some time. The vast majority of people who have made music didn't live well off making their own music and just hoping other people would throw money at them. They got a job.
>>121541981LMFAO yeah I'm going to make shit for free for retards who want me to slave my life away for Shekelberg. Go fuck yourself.
I don't normally do rock stuff, but this one would be fire if I wasnt recording off a headset mic in my dorm room \:)still working out the kinks but its getting therehttps://voca.ro/15OfgOeRhqaq
https://vocaroo.com/1wFAb3ixOiQ1This sampling shit is fun, but I feel like a retarded child could arrange better. It's fucking weird to go from composing to trying to flip samples.
what techniques are used in JPEGMAFIA's and Flying Lotus' music? I don't get it
>>121542425A lot bro
>>121542413ditch that fucking sample rate reduction and itll be fire
>>121542425be black
>>121542466please name them
>>121542425Jesus Christ dude, just study their music and stop looking for shortcuts
>>121542608Idk how to study, please explain. Idk what's in their music
>>121542540Bro why do you clown like this just go fucking google it and follow the advice people have already given you.I went through a flylo obsession years ago and already went through the googling and beat copying. Jpeg has a rabid fan base as well and you know there are people talking about it.The information is already right there for you stop being lazy and fuck off.
>>121542665Open up your DAW and recreate the songs you like. Figuring out how it works is how you learn how to produce
>>121542674>>121542684>>121542608first jpeg beat, thoughts? I've been making beats for 7 yearshttps://vocaroo.com/14NFCJstAFOH
>>121543110>https://vocaroo.com/14NFCJstAFOHplease help, any pointers? I'm currently making my second beat based on Grimy Waifu and it's much better.
>Gayfag Marfan's
>>121543110its definitely experimentalwhere are your drums
something killed my kickdrum while recording, or it didn't recordhttps://vocaroo.com/1aDjAB5xNZfa
>>121543667thanks, I will keep that in mind. I guess my drums aren't defined enough. I'm looking for other experimental sounds in the mean time. I've found some sick packs from Ableton but I wonder where else I can find some weird sounds and samples. Thanks!
>>121543396>>121543110I think working on your fundamentals would help your beats go much further “feel” wise.It’s not bad but this exact same sound palette and idea could be much better executed.
>>121544001Idk, I've been working on fundamentals for awhile in my 7 years. I don't expect for my first ever attempt at experimental beats to be any good yet.
I always thought Soundgoodizer is a meme for novice trap producer retards but it actually makes everything sound better lol
Why is the ableton index using so much cpu power
Every time I "master" my music, I ruin the dynamics. The calmer, quieter part before the grand finale isn't that much quieter now.
>>121542282Just run the vocals through one of those voice replacement AI tools.
>>121509046Imagine your Ableton 12 Beta expiring along with all your user library, what a small penised fag
Message to >>121479292Thanks for listening!I like your idea about tempo - it's already crazy, why not go all the way while trying to reintroduce the earlier harmonic elements Glad you liked the pedal steel oneHere's another one my friend and I recorded:https://voca.ro/1d8ScoB7JObcI'm planning to:- get rid of the piano solo because nobody cares about a piano solo and the ending is the best part of the song anyway - improve the vocals and add some more so it looks like more of a regular songAny other critique is welcome
bump
What are you working on today? I'm planning on doing more 404 work tonight.
>>121552021going to work on watching youtube videos on how to be experimental so i can make experimental hip hop beats like jpeg mafia
>>121544469>7 yearsSomehow I don't believe this. Post your favorite few pieces of music.
>>121552392>Post your favorite few pieces of music.How is that relevant and why would you careStop giving that fag attention
wowweee
>>121552021trying to make this song I heard in the street fighter show workhttps://vocaroo.com/1o88PMEazYbWspeaking of the 404 and JPEG, apparently he did all of scaring the hoes on that.
hote....
probz not but this is what I made today (so far)(slept too long so head is foggyyy)https://vocaroo.com/14U4ImDiKU1Q
ooookay goodnight (punpun) fuck it my brain is busted todayhttps://vocaroo.com/1jpjUDBBghRI
https://m.soundcloud.com/foolgazer/online-chronicles
>>121555922NO SHILLING IN PRODFUCK YOU
>>121556086But what if you like it
>>121556191Extremely unlikely.Actually since we're not going to click on it, it's 100% not going to happen.
>>121542413>>121542467I reworked the beat some. How is this? I dropped the sample rate reduction and changed some of the arrangement. I like it better, but I'm not sure if that's just bias or it actually works better.https://vocaroo.com/1lqveXVKE4ac
>>121556191itt's bad you loser get good before you bother shilling yourself or there's nothing to be gained from acting like a faggot in the first place
trying stuff https://vocaroo.com/1h9JYnihsrjm
unrelated but holy shit is this song goodhttps://youtu.be/OraLsuRRfaw?t=138
>>121560121how do i make my bass sound like that (clipping the whole mix but not actually clipping and making it sound crunchy and cancer)
https://voca.ro/1c84O6AugjH8thoughts?
Are you getting a Digitakt 2? it has more spacehttps://youtu.be/sCdGqEM0GRQ?si=WqlIDXZbnoMrnsGI
Thing I started tonight. Reminds me of a space shuttle that just launched. https://voca.ro/1gnBMh9xL8Qm
Anyone interested in creating dungeon and synth wave with me
https://vocaroo.com/18FQKvVtwywwextremely simple beat I made
>>121562377....
Is it considered lazy/in bad taste to use the same melody used for an instrumental intro as the melody for the chorus?I don't know how to describe this in musical terms so I made a shitty MIDI example. Imagine the first part as the intro and the second as the chorus with the sine as vocals.https://vocaroo.com/1lUoJxp4CHuC
>>121564704If it's repeated 1:1 it's cringe.If it's used as a sort of occasionally recurring motif or as a tease for what's to come, then it's great.I would add effects to the intro one and make it sit in the background so it's not the main element the listener is likely to focus on. Could even change the instrument/sound and the octave. The more different it is from the chorus version, the more you increase the "teasing what's coming" quality.What you did here is kind of the opposite, with the intro melody being more in front than the chorus version, which can also work but IMO it's not as good unless you make the chorus version more subtle and in the background to make it feel less like a recycled part, or you change the notes themselves into something more complex (an arpeggio is fine).
I wrote a piece for an amateur brass band, we performed it last sunday, but they played it pretty shit. So i'm working on an edit and I would love some feedback on how to fix this mess. I'm actually thinking of melodyning each voice https://voca.ro/1diztLgKntel>>121564704You can definitely use the same melody as the chorus as for the intro, but I would layer or harmonise the melody when the chorus hits
>>121565661The two people on the left should've switched places to make the picture symmetrical.
>ableton DISK warning
FREEZE
>>121565661Why didn't you just Suno it?
>its another ableton DISK error and CPU errorI FREEZE MY TRACKSMY TRASHBIN GETS POLLUTED WITH TEMPORARY FILESGOD FUCKINGGGGG
>logic user>opens up ableton>tries to bounce track in place>can't
restructuring my tech house projecti'm not too sure if the vocal is in the key of G#minor?https://voca.ro/12Xod0C6zxWy
>stop using certified gay software like logic, ableton, fl studio>music making becomes way more enjoyable
>>121567968What do you use now?
>>121567968anybody who's still calling things "gay" in current year invariably gives some retard take and boring ass music so at least you're enjoying yourself
>>121567968I just use Suno now and it's been a blast so far, I've never had this much fun making music, and it sounds so much better than anything I've made before.
>>121568106>t. someone who's gay and butthurt
>>121568436>butthurtLiterally or figuratively?
>>121567968my guy is using max msp to mix his music
>>121565542>>121565661Thanks.
>>121568436it would be like somebody insulting me for being white like that's not an insult bro.Your saying that at all speaks more poorly about you than me.
>>121568942A retard with shit smeared all over his face doesn't think there's anything wrong with that, but me calling him a shitface retard is still an insult even if he's too fucked to understand what's wrong with having shit on his face.
>>121568942Are you saying that you're proud to be white?
>just moved to a new apartment>have the day off>decide to get gear all set up for the first time in years and record some basic bedroom electronics (haven't even recorded a song since before lockdown)>no desk or tables so just set up on the ground in front of my TV>can't find main mixer so using shitty little 8 channel chinese mixer>new laptop, audio drivers are apparently fucked, mostly unable to record audio>Tascam Portastudio just plain won't turn on anymore>figuring out new DAW (Studio One)>somehow synths all power on but only getting audio out of half the gear half the time>pots are crunchy as fuck on the ms20>had to throw out a ton of cables and power adapters that are corroded >have been setting stuff up and troubleshooting problems for 8 hours straight>still nothing recordedAHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKAs it stands I'm basically just fucking around with a $3000 Lego set. I'm not even a good musician.
>>121569378>hardware fags will defend thisDamn that sucks. Looks like it would be a fun setup if it worked :/NIN spotted, based
ever since i've limited myself to stock plugins and generators it's become easier to make tracksand also has helped me to understand the basics more
>>121569858>helped me to understand the basics morelearn to walk before you can run, yeah
help :[https://vocaroo.com/1aF0rIEE30UK
https://files.catbox.moe/gk8bv4.mp4FL studio as a freeform instrument
>>121571150My toilet pipes make the same sound after I flush
Boys...Imma get silly...Just for this one time...
>>121569378That ES-1 needs some love.>>121570784I peep it.I check it.I hear it.I bop it.uh>>121561034No more GAS. Only dreams.
>>121556791I will award seventeen of my finest internets to anyone that will rap over this. I don't even care.
How would you recommend approaching making music like this orchestral jazzy third wave (?) music?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOWc6muojm4Musescore?A DAW with soundfonts?Fancy VSTs libraries?I don't even know where to start.
>>121574506Suno
>>121574616AI? Fuck nah.I've got the musical background, I just don't know any software.
>>121569378Software chads stay winning>>121574506You can try to make orchestral music with midi, any DAW works with the free spitfire orchestra pack that's available on their website and you can pirate the pro stuff if you feel inclined. (https://www.spitfireaudio.com/bbc-symphony-orchestra-discover). >>121574616I think you're lost, anon. This is a thread for music production.
>>121574673Well now you know Suno. Pointless to use anything else in 2024.
>>121574907>free spitfire orchestra packThanks, bro. Might give this a spin with Reaper since that has a score view and I'm too cheap for something like Cubase.I can't believe that I've slept on Zappa for so long; god damn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0SPz63I6IE
>>121510080>https://vocaroo.com/13hqgQOMTKx5I like this, especially the bass sound. If this mix was cleaner this would be really nice. Not sure why the whole thing is so fucking loud though.
https://vocaroo.com/13JuVfkcApj4 made this little beat, i am starting to arrive at the obscure genre i want to create. guitar is lackluster, made in xpand, i need shreddage or some shit.
writing simple things that actually progress is so hard wtf
>>121556791some bell or celeste, like something higher pitched would be dope in there. the version without sample rate reduction sounds 10 times better
https://vocaroo.com/1g7W8F9PSF6d we vibin with this ?
GIVE ANONS WITHOUT A REPLY A REPLY
>>121579942Okay, here you go :)
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>>121556791Best beat I've heard in one of these threads in a while anon. Absolutely love the sample chopping. Vocal chop gives me a stank face every time. Think you could find someone to rap on this easily.Did all these samples come from one record or multiple sources? Just curious.Agree with >>121577834 about the sample rate reduction. Keep it the way it is in the second link you posted. If I were you, I'd try adding some saturation to the kick and the clap to brighten them up. In my head, this feels like it could hit harder being a bit brighter.I'm trapped in the infinite cycle of constantly tweaking a mix this morning. Wish me luck in getting this shipped today anons.
>>121580319Thanks, homie. It's actually several things--some jazz, some blues, some classical concertos. That vocal sample is from "Smokestack Lightning" by Howlin Wolf. I will give it a try on the saturation on the kick and clap. Thanks for the tip!
>>121577898Very much so. Couldn't help myself making a quick beat over it. Only spent like 20 minutes on it but you get the idea. Hopefully you can pull some inspiration from it like I was able to from your melodies :)https://voca.ro/1eX0VD1p7TGy>>121580970Great use of samples anon. Might sift through some classical concertos myself now that I know that's a thing.Post again if you have a chance to tweak the beat btw. Hopefully it turns out good!
>>121561395Not sure what you call this genre but I dig it. Drums had my head boppin. Favorite part is that switchup. I would break it down into a totally new track personally.What are you using to make this?>>121555014Video game music 100%. Someone make a level for this man.>>121554501Gnarly sound design. Wish I knew someone who I could mix something like this for.When it drops at 40 seconds, I think you could change the clap sample to something more snappy. Maybe use a transient shaper? Clap just feels too long imo.>>121548055Loudness and dynamics should come from the mix in my experience. If you're waiting until the very end to crank up the loudness, you're doing it too late. That final limiter is going to be working too hard and it's going to squash everything (hence the lack of dynamics).What are you doing during the mastering stage? What tools are you using? Might be able to help you out.
strange mixture of rock genres i know lol. dont know how to feel about it because of the kinda jokey nature. so let me know what you think:https://vocaroo.com/1eMu5N3AmFuS
>>121581318>Loudness and dynamics should come from the mix in my experience.How exactly? I tried playing everything "quieter" and reducing the velocity of virtual elements or just automating the track's volume.>What are you doing during the mastering stage? What tools are you using? Might be able to help you out.Copying and condensing, without much thought to be honest, what I gathered from the videos and texts I read. I don't exactly understand or hear the differences at each stage, but in the end it sounds "louder". Basically:>mid/side EQ to make everything below 80Hz mono>a compressor, ableton's glue compressor, with a 1ms attack and auto release, enabling the EQ option even though i'm not really sure of what it does and then adjusting the threshold until i get a few dBs of reduction>adding a limiter and adjusting the gain until i can barely see some limiting
>>121581098Another cool source for weird samples are the Library of Congress field recordings. You can get some dusty old fiddles, some cool interviews for spoken samples, and things like that. They're public domain too, so I don't think you have to clear the sample.
i am incapable of making groovey tech-house...
>>121581755Before I dump all this shit below, I want to say the best advice I can give as someone that used to struggle with mixing is to check out Baphometrix's Clip-to-Zero Strategy. That technique and learning HOW the tools being used actually work have changed my mixes drastically.The way I do it is by making sure my "anchor" sounds (usually kick/clap or kick/snare) peak at 0dB. If they aren't loud enough, hard clip them. Goal is to gain the quietest parts of the sound so they are closer to the loudest parts of your sound. Less gain that will need to be added later on down the chain.From there, I gain stage each track so it fits where I like loudness wise, then run them through a hard clipper. I do lots of saturation with the tracks to get the quieter details to be loud enough that you can hear them. A lot of the time just increasing the gain on these tracks is enough to bring the detail out(keeping the peak at or below 0dB).Then bus them into groups (drums, kick/clap/snare, instruments, bass, whatever else) and hard clip again. I have a couple different clippers I use on these busses. Just depends on what sounds the best. This is going to help spread the workload that your final limiter is doing across multiple clippers. You can read how clippers/limiters work, but they objectively work best when you aren't slamming them with a ton of noise. Usually find that >5 dB of gain reduction/clipping over the course of a few busses works for me.Most of the time I don't bother with a final limiter. If I do I just run a preset I made that shaves any weird peaks past 0dB off.Track is already loud enough by now and that just leaves what I consider "mastering checks" such as mono compatibility and scalability for different sound systems.TL;DR you're going to want to increase loudness/gain at the track level, bus sounds together and clip the peaks. The idea is to keep summing sounds together and control the dynamics throughout the chain. Hope that helps :)
>>121582202just use more splice loops bro
>>121582353i am
>>121581755Hit the character limit on >>121582203. Wanted to add this though.>>mid/side EQ to make everything below 80Hz monoNot going to completely disagree with this. I guess I'm wondering what you are hoping to get from this. Usually, anything that low is going to be mono anyway, so it may be completely redundant. Worst case, you have a little bit of width that sounds good in stereo and goes away in mono. If the difference in energy jumps too much when toggling back and forth, I'd reach for a shelf on the mid-side EQ and blend it in. Personally, I avoid hard cuts as much as possible. I'd argue that if you have some instruments down there, you can get away with leaving it. You're going to want to EQ anything non bass related against the bass anyway to mix it in properly.Curious what you think there.>>a compressor, ableton's glue compressor, with a 1ms attack and auto release, enabling the EQ option even though i'm not really sure of what it does and then adjusting the threshold until i get a few dBs of reductionSee last post about spreading this workload out. One compressor is only going to be able to work so hard before it falls apart. You're never going to get the loudness you want out of one compressor without squashing the waveform and killing your dynamics, which sounds like exactly what you're doing.Also going to suggest learning how to "hear" compression so you can adjust those attack/release times based on what the song needs, not just some preset. Monitoring at lower volumes ironically helps you hear ime. I'd find a YT video that explains it and give it a try on your own stuff.Again, hope all this is helpful. If you want a deeper dive, highly recommend that Clip-to-Zero series I mentioned earlier.>>121582092This is huge. Thank you anon. Know what I'm doing this weekend :)
HI
>>121582994hello
ok i tinkered a bit with the intro/break section of the tech house track:https://voca.ro/19Y8WxFAtlsS
>>121581318> Not sure what you call this genre but I dig it. Drums had my head boppin. Favorite part is that switchup. I would break it down into a totally new track personally.What are you using to make this?Thanks anon I appreciate the feed back. Just using my MPC one in standalone. My computer is so old I can’t get any music software other than GarageBand. What would you break down into a new track?
>>121495722I like the Roland 808 board, it has a great deal of versatility and has been used by some of the greatest minds of our timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM0Nu_WkfRQ
>>121583566Nice, I've been getting into the MPC recently too. Have had a Live 2 for like 2-3 years and just now developing a workflow for it. Which one are you on?>breakdown1:40 is a crazy transition. At around 1:50, I could see the drums coming back in and a new, slower, bigger set of melodies coming in if that makes sense. Feels like a great opportunity to make a whole new beat in half time from the original.
Anyone have advice for choosing samples for a sampler? I've been having fun making stuff on my 404 but the packs roland provides on the cloud Manager aren't really that great. I've tried putting samples from my folder on and at times I have to grab drums from different kits than where the melodies came from, usually because the 404 app will give me a media error. I believe this part with the drums may not matter and it's just inexperience with sampling that's holding me up from getting it right. I have a lot of one shot melodies that I thought would make for good loops but the shots are either one beat too slow or too fast. I used bpm sync but it's not working on every sample
>>121499099Pirate it before buying it. Use it for a few years and pay for it after you start making money from music.
>>121585006Syncing a sample up to a specific bpm can be tough I've found. Find that when you go to grab a sample, counting out how many beats/bars in tempo helps. Then you can chop in whatever bpm your sample is.Lately, I've been grabbing entire sections of songs and letting my MPC chop on a threshold. None of them are on time and not all of the chops will line up but part of the fun is finding what works and what doesn't imo.
>>121577898nice
>>121495722some of my unfinished ideashttps://vocaroo.com/1fXquGRorcoBhttps://vocaroo.com/1e6GcIcziLc0https://vocaroo.com/1oWdh3Ps0n5Ihttps://vocaroo.com/1eIv9sSFChm2https://vocaroo.com/11ZuBVbEYngd>>121496382this is also minehow do i learn to sing, i'd like to lower my lowest note F2 to E2 if it's possible also, how do you unfuck your musician friends to play in time?>>121583015it's actually pretty good,reminds me of mia mendi stuff, but that's subjective. mixed well, just use stereo better, clean the low end, kick isn't punchy enough>>121581486damn pretty nice, reminds me of early 00s stuff, butthole surfers, ween, beck etc. also from newer stuff moon duo. i love that 00s style of sampling. do you have anymore songs?>>121577898yeah just use saturation and compression more, EQ stuff too
>>121582203>>121582403I stumbled once upon that CTZ method, but only skimmed the first video. I guess I can sit down and watch the whole thing. I mostly swerved from it and watched a bunch of other "mixing and mastering from start to finish" videos.>I'm wondering what you are hoping to get from this. The videos mentioned "freeing up headroom". No idea if it actually does that.>how to "hear" compressionSomeone posted a video like that recently by Gregory Scott who walked through such a listening session. It did help. I sat down and played around, exactly as you mentioned, with the attack and release to see what it does. I applied it only to drums though and I could also mentally/visually apply it to the sound. I am having trouble hearing or picturing how it would affect a full mix though.Thanks for the tip. I will sit down and give that CTZ a proper try this time.
>>121585125>pay for it after you start making money from musicI think that's a bad way to go about it. For example, I bought Ableton Live for like 200€ a year ago. That's less than 1€ per day for multiple hours of fun per day. I'd say that's a great investment, even if I don't make money from my music and only do it for fun.One can argue that I'd get the same by just downloading an unauthorized copy, but that's where the convenience argument comes into play.
based or cringe ?https://vocaroo.com/1fkTUPw4lrYn
CTZThe tl;dw for people who aren’t trying to LOUD loud is slightly limit/saturate every track.Even if you’re just shaving off 1-2 dB max af it’s loudest moment, or in busses/groups if you want to go further, that will significantly reduce random peaks while retaining overall dynamics and allow you to master louder with minimal gain reduction at the final stage.Going louder is just going harder with the method of cascading limiting/saturation.
>>121585510damn didnt see the (you) thanks! glad you like it. yeah i posted the demo and someone said it sounded like incubus or something so i tried to lean into it
>>121584631Hell yeah dude how do you like the live 2? I’ve only had mine for about a month now. It’s been a huge learning curve but I’m starting to get a feel for it. Things a beast. I really like that idea. If I get some time tonight once the family is in bed I’ll put it in a new project and mess with it. I like the idea of adding more melodies to it. What have you been working on anon?
>>121585610personally, I'd rather buy the DAW but sail the high seas for plugins. Means that I receive customer support for my DAW in case of issues or if I can't figure out something niche and super technical, but if a cracked plugin doesn't work there's plenty more fish in the sea so I grab a different one.
>>121585561I used to do the same thing. My mixing became significantly better as I understood the concepts in the CTZ series. It's less the actual method that Baph uses and more why they are doing what they are doing. Then you can take the concepts and know what tool to reach for when you want to do a specific thing. I spend almost no time figuring out what to do and more time doing what I have in my head now if that makes sense.>>The videos mentioned "freeing up headroom". No idea if it actually does that.Mid-side is not going to free up headroom. It's going to help with mono compatibility.>compressionHave not heard of Gregory Scott. Will see if I can find that video and give it a watch. Also I can recommend The House of Kush video on how to hear compression. My experience is that you just have to "practice" a lot. I still have trouble hearing it sometimes, but you get better at picking up on it as you do it more.>>I will sit down and give that CTZ a proper try this time.Best of luck anon. That series was the answer to my like 2 year journey of trying to get my mixes loud and clean. Did have to spend quite a bit of time with it to fully understand, but these days I'm proud of the mixes I've done for me and other producers.>>121585699Pretty much this. Goal is to get rid of random peaks that are going to trigger a master limiter and cause unwanted results. I've applied these principles to mixes everywhere from -14LUFS to a recent one I did that was -5LUFS. All of them retain their dynamics and sound good on all my monitoring equipment (which is more than any reasonable person should have).
>>121581486>https://vocaroo.com/1eMu5N3AmFuSPretty neat, sounds like some of the recent Hovvdy stuff. I'd maybe make your vocals more full, and make it a bit more lush. The bass is in a good spot, but the mid range guitar stuff only feels lush during the instrumental chorus(?). I hear more of the strum sound than the actual chord.
Hey everyone, quick question. I’m currently mixing some stuff that has a lot of instrumentation and it’s getting very loud and jumbled sounding. What is a good way to keep everything clear and audible?
>>121585762Love the Live 2 my friend. Coming from FL Studio was an adjustment but I think I'm finally figuring out what kind of music I like to make on the thing. MPC workflow is not at all close to a DAW. So I got frustrated with it when I first got it. In retrospect I think I was trying to fit a square peg through a round hole. Just need to play to it's strengths and leave the super complicated tracks to FL.>If I get some time tonight once the family is in bed I’ll put it in a new project and mess with Hell yeah definitely post if you do! Think there's a lot of potential to turn a good track into a great track with that.>What have you been working on anon?Actually working on an album of MPC beats with the goal to release a cassette tape. Got all the equipment, just need to get the songs together. Also thinking of recording the whole process, but not sure for what yet.Here's a snippet of one I finished. Curious to know what you and other anons think! Ask me questions if you have them btw I love helping people with production.https://vocaroo.com/1nkMPBHnn4ej
>>121588403>>very loud and jumbledLike you want to spread the instruments out or they are muddy playing on top of each other.Have you tried panning the instruments? What about EQ?
>>121585686Missed this before just now. Sick asf anon. Would add this to a playlist.
How are we doing today boys?Personally I haven't haven't made anything cause I keep getting stuck at making a song skeleton to build on and realizing that it's not really worth trying to finish
>>121589477i keep making patterns on my 404 with attempts to use the pattern to follow along with tutorials but im too hung up on having a good loop to start the videos. so i keep going back and changing the samples i have instead of doing the videos. i am getting pretty fast at making patterns though.
>>121589477I had to leave my house for two hours today and it drained me so much i can't make music idk.Gonna try to get out of bed again in 10 minutes and try again >//<
>>121589477Good tonight wbu? Been working on beats just about all day. Finished a mix for a dubstep producer so feeling good.>>121589664This is what happens every time I sit down to practice piano.>do something cool by accident>record it to save for later>fuck it I'll get an idea down rq>turns into a whole track>dont practice or finish tutorial video (usually theory)Guess the best practice is actually doing, right anon?
>>121588996They get muddy when they are all playing. I’ve tried panning but I don’t want it to be too distracting. I am not experienced in using eq beyond just basic overall treble and bass
>>121589971NTA but mud is bound to happen when too many sounds overlap the same frequencies. The only way to fix this is to learn how to use an EQ or to use less instruments in your songs.
>>121587513>Have not heard of Gregory Scott. Will see if I can find that video and give it a watch. Also I can recommend The House of Kush video on how to hear compression. Heh, that's his video. Gregory Scott is the dude in the House of Kush videos.
>>121589971Agreeing with >>121590128.Recommending taking an EQ, increasing the Q and then increasing the gain a few dB, then sweep across and see what frequencies are summing up to mud. Then you can put an EQ on each instrument and start blending them together.If you know nothing about EQ, YouTube might not be a bad place to start. Keep in mind YouTube videos are not a replacement for experimenting yourself though. Don't get trapped in tutorial hell.>>121590177>Heh, that's his video.lol testament for how good the video and channel is then I guess :)
>>121589664Ah that's a classicI really like feeling unprepared to watch a video so I'm stuck in an endless cycle of trying feel like I'm ready and then eventually I move on in some way and it's like "oops">>121589748Ganbatte!!!>>121589897Good shit my manDespite all my complaints I'm doing fairly decent. Finally getting more comfortable in trackers so that's sweet. Hoping I can find a good cheat sheet for regular commands because switching to mouse to click some of the smaller buttons isn't the best lol
>>121590395>trackersAlways thought those were super cool. Almost want to learn them so I have an excuse to buy a Polyend Tracker :pAnything you want to post? I'll check it out.Also this track is mine >>121588890. Curious what you think anon :)
https://vocaroo.com/1bKc4oHUBoQ9
>>121590128>>121590379Thanks prodfriends I appreciate it
okay i got out of bedhttps://vocaroo.com/1bXXC8O3ijJ8one day.... one day...
>>121495722Everything I fucking do sounds like muddy overcompressed shit and it's pissing me off>https://voca.ro/1ogTNVdrrMT9
>>121533955Wow that's actually impressive sound design. I feel like I make pads and that's it kek
>>121585510>mixed well, just use stereo better, clean the low end, kick isn't punchy enoughthank you for listening anon!i'll look into that then
I don't really /prod/ anymore, but I've been having a nostalgia kick and went back to listen to this for the first time in years. I used to have so-so feelings about it but now it makes me happy.https://youtu.be/7zkb12y9FcM?si=t3MWfocylGKcwoqb
Are there any drum plugins that have a chance parameter? i can't find any and it seems like such a useful thing.
>>121495849>dither when going down to a lower sample ratenot correct, dither when going down to a lower bit depth
Anyone here producing drum and bass?
why are synth guys such massive faggots
>>121595012Only one I can think of is Drum Sequencer in Reason (you can set probability % for each step trigger, also has random modes that can be triggered by external devices/MIDI), but to use that you'd have to pirate Reason 11 + Drum Seq as its sold separately, then load that up as the rack plugin in your DAW...so kinda cumbersome.I'm sure there must be something else that does the same thing?
>>121591694>https://voca.ro/1ogTNVdrrMT9scatter brained notes im taking while listening: I would say that the voices on that bass are slightly /too/ out of tune, consider manipulating for a better bass tone. nice guitar solo. add more drum fills to better signify changes, instrumentation changes to signify changes, strong melody over chorus, the arp is nice and a melody would fit nicely over it, but the bass may have to take a backseat in the mix for it to work. youre making good use of hard pan left and right, but remember there are less extreme degrees for panning say 25, 35. make use of that space. MAybe could use some fx heavy vocals over the entire thing. again nice guitar solo
>>121591472needs harmony check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfDknG3N8M
>>121591087drums need to cut through better, little dark sounding. little sparse arrangement, so you can add a lot more. no bass?
>>121577722not bad, keep working. listen to joeyy and strive for that hi fi ASMR sound as heard on just tired 2
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