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My vote is the Catskills in NY. Hybrid cars parked all up and down every road. Thousands of fat guys in khaki shorts photographing trees. Loud black women chasing their screaming kids everywhere. Trail closure and no trespassing signs every 50 yards. Literal fucking security cameras at trailhead parking areas. I hope a fucking forest fire claims the whole region.
>>2723374Another thing to consider is doing them in the winter. With a full moon, due to the lack of foliage from blocking the moonlight/starlight/light pollution and the fact that snow reflects 90 percent of oncoming light, you can navigate without a headlamp at night. I didn't see cloud inversion but the range is stunning in the winter and even less crowded with the only people there being really quiet (for some reason asian?) hikers and snowshoers. It is also much quieter thanks to the snow absorbing the sound. I did second ascent of Blackhead (25MAR2023) in a blizzard and while no views, I was totally alone, the glissading down was a blast, and it was super cool to listen to the winds rip at the mountains. you have to do Panther, Balsam, Slide, and Blackhead in the winter, might as well knock out a couple more. The snow is also east coast wet stuff so it gets nice and dense late in the season, nothing like powder out west in Colorado or Utah
>>2722142I’m looking at tourists over I-35! How the hell did they get through?!
>>2723508I've done winter hiking in the Catskills before and agree it's a nice experience. Looking to see some more greenery on this next trip however. Only time I went in the summer was to see Kaaterskill Falls decades ago. As you can guess it was crowded even back then.
>>2712080Sedona Arizona. Absolutely gorgeous environment, but totally bogged down by hyper rich retired boomers. Insane traffic because the only way in is a single one lane road. Shops have a 200% markup on basic clothes and shoes. Fuck tons of foreigners stomping off trails and ruining natural formation. Overall just too crowded but still hailed as a “tiny nook” to checkout. You basically have to plan an extra 3 hours into all your plans. I’ve had a few enjoyable trips, but that was with considerable planning and patience.
>>2722558>it's so pathetic that other people enjoy /out/ in a different way than I do>don't they realize it's a competition and you have to have the biggest numbers in order for it to be fun
Is this a good water filter?
>>2724116That's a Casio clasp isn't it son
>>2724163Naturally.
>>2723263I mean if it gets rid of Protozoa and ecoli id say it works great! Chemicals and other stuff won’t kill your (quickly at least) however giardia could in a couple of days depending how dehydrated you are. I personally use a grayl, little bit more bulky and it only holds 700ml water internal, but it filters quick and I’ve used it on literal muddy creek water with deer shit nearby and had no issues (if anything it tasted better than tap water) however it’s bulky and people often complain about that.
>>2724093Lifestraws are great when you have water nearby, but how the fuck you going to transfer it to a container? They work great if you’re sleeping next to a cleanish body of water but if you’ve ever used a life straw you’ll know that you will be spending a fair amount of time sucking. Sawyer squeeze is infinitely better because you can transfer it rather quickly to a secondary container or bladder
>>2724859>you will be spending a fair amount of time suckingI don't see how's that a bad thing
I've been browing these boards for a while and I've never seen mention of blackout tents. You know where you can put a torch inside but he completely hidden from the outside at night? Seems like a cosy idea for stealth camping, what do you guys think?
>>2724835Personally I don’t see the allure in it. If you’re stealth camping anyone walking by is going to be able to see a tent, especially since manufacturers are hell bent on using absolutely electric colors for them. If stealth camping is the goal I’d recommend getting a surplus bivysack with a good camo on it and rawdog it in the woods. It’s way lower profile and if someone spots you then you probably weren’t sleeping in a spot that was lowkey to begin with.
>>2724835>muh stealth campingFuck off
>>2724864>muh "fuck off" postingStealth camp.
i plan to go spend a week in the paris catacombs, 30 meters deep underground with no electricity, light or cell phone network. now, i suppose i need:>food for a week>water for a week (or a water purifier, theres plenty of flooded tunnels)>something to charge my phone and flashlight>some kind of potty>some sleeping bag or matressand a way to prevent passerbys from stealing all of the above. what do you recommend, /out/?
>>2724736guy in article cracked his head after falling in a hole trying to get in the catacombs. just says injured, not deadonly news article I could find from 2024
>>2724735hope the guy recovers ok in the end but man slipping off a ladder at the entry has gotta be one of the lamest ways to injure yourself in the spooky forbidden catacombs
>>2690369Hide your most precious or illegal stuff near your campiste. Squat a remote room but you will meet people. Don't film a basic youtube vlog. Do you have some experience with caving or with the catacombs ?>>2691544I visited most of the GRS and XIIIe but there are still parts I want to see. I do some tract hiding/hunting during days but was a tourist not log ago.>>2703192Probably fake or not in Paris catacombs, the corps wouldn't have the time to rot before being found.
>>2724735I can't believe OP fucking died
>>2724779Odessa
To keep it brief, I'm in my late 20s and my circle of friends have typically been indoor types that prefer to do things indoors, like watch movies, go out to eat, or play video games. Perhaps it's just my friend group, but I have this impression that people around my age can't be bothered to go /out/ beyond a mile or two long hike--and even then it's a struggle or just an excuse to smoke weed in a different setting. I can't imagine getting any of my friends to seriously gear up and go out on a camping trip where they have to carry their back to the campsite. Girls seem more into the idea, but in reality they'll just slow down my pace (well, a lot of guys would too). Why do you guys think this is? We're in the best shape of our lives, somewhat, and it feels wasteful to spend it all indoors.
>>2722106video games has destroyed an entire era of men. I say era because it spans multiple generations. I know guys who were born in the late 60s/early 70s who are shut-in gamers with no wife or kids. it's the ultimate psyop. why go out and completely real achievements when you can get that same feeling(or so you think) by doing it without even leaving the house? it only gets worse once VR gets good and becomes a normal household item for the middle class.
>>2722106my gf always wants to 'go on a hike' but walks slow as shit and just complains the whole time, really really really infuriating then gets pissy if i go for too many alone like "wah why don't we go hiking together more" at least they're honest that they're shit at being outdoors... nothing worse than outdoor posers>ew the weather!I can only grit my teeth so much...
>>2724724>ew the weather!Few things make me this mad. Might as well say "I can't stand being outside my little climate-controlled cave because I'm mentally and physically feeble". How is complaining about the weather even real? Put on/take off more clothes, fucking idiot.
>>2722169> Also America sucks we ruined our nature.Compared to where?
>>2724696I genuinely want to know more about the achievements. Hiking up hills or mountains never felt like an achievement to me. Is that how hikers feel? they conquered the mountain / trail?Hunting is more my type of "achievement", but most of my friends find it easier to hunt and fight in a videogame than go hunt an animal outdoors.I agree it has "limited" an era of men. It's easy dopamine. I think if it wasn't videogames, the same shut-ins would have been doing drugs or some other addiction.
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>>2724543>every remotely intelligent person is a JewSo that's why they're able to control the whole world.
>>2724715>has never read a single bible verse
>>2724721The bible is an idol of wood and ink. Bible believers are idol worshippers. They say that "the bible says this" as if a book can talk, like all idol worshippers.The entire point of Christ is the possibility of divine revelation received directly by men, not through scriptures or scrolls or rabbis like the previous (jewish) covenant.
it's nessie
>>2724761>>>/x/
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i'm currently relegating myself at my garage learning all the knots and assemblingi will learn and then i'll post my trophies
Why does it feel like people look down on panfishing? I know most people probably don't, but I've definitely seen some hate. I've been fishing for almost a year, and I love it. I've caught a good range of species, but chasing panfish just feels like such a thrill to me. I don't feel like it's a patience thing, I've spent hours getting skunked and still loved doing it. Plus, slapping a freshly fried bluegill on a tortilla is one of the best meals I can get. I just don't get the hate.
>>2724808$200 is typically my max to test a new hobby out. If I like it, I'm down to spend a whole lot more, especially if I can make or save money doing it. I don't target a single species and everywhere I fish has about half a dozen things I could be catching. Trout or bass are the most common stuff where I go though. You really don't have to take the time if you know of another quick resource to reference. I don't mind watching videos or reading how tos either. Like I said in my previous post, I've already done some tutorials, just nothings really clicked so far.
My first Morena (Muraenidae). I kept it, already cleaned, filleted and froze, wondering how to cook it still. Here it is a very unwanted fish, basically that's is the reason why there still are plenty and good sized, this one is small though. I catched it "robada" (stolen), it means it hooked from a body part and not from the mouth. How do you call this in your area?
>>2724847Moray eel. They're pretty interesting animals, smarter than you'd think and do cooperative hunting. Kind of like underwater cats. Kind of crazy how some are incredibly docile and will allow divers to handle them while others are very aggressive.
I am thinking of ditching my tent and matress and sleeping bag for a tarp and a hammock.Any experiences on this?
>>2724833>he thinks we need trees
>>2724833>>2724841lol lmao even
>>2724841>hammock>sleeping bag>underquilt>tarp>poles>guylines>stakesI'll just bring my tent at that point; it'll be easier>captcha: KTHX
>>2724841That thing did not stay up during even moderate winds but it does make a nice photo, as intended.
Where do you guys pack your suspension? Can't pack it with the hammock if it's wet, and if I carry it in a separate small pouch I'm paranoid I will misplace it somewhere and render my whole sleeping system unusable.
how hardcore are you?
>>2724291I kneel
>we negotiated 200ft buffer around the treethen the logging company clear cuts the entire forest leaving some dog shit ass little patch and leaves the remaining forest to wither due to completely destroying the surrounding environment leaving them prone to disease, wind or whatever happens when you completely isolate 15 trees on a barren wasteland
>>2724295>What the fuck is wrong with these people?Everything
im trying to fight the system from the inside. it's been 33 years and it hasn't been going well
>>2721300>if the tree goes a-rockin, don’t come a choppin
salut, romanon herethe fuck is this?can any other romanon explain what is happening? is the media exaggerating this? is this real?? https://www.capital.ro/codul-silvic-interzicere-acces-turisti-paduri.html
>>2724373they illegally log it. Its a big thing in the ukrainian-romanian border forests. I hate ukrainians so much
>>2724798You could say you're getting logged by the zog.
>>2724373He told you once, and then had to tell you the exact same thing again dumbass.
>>2724839You're the dumbass if you think I read the entirety of this boring ass thread to figure out why the mafia cares about the trees. I got my answer so fuck off.
>>2724843Noi you failed to accept fault (not reading the reply you actually quoted) and because of it you'll be just as much of a dumb cunt in future. Your father never ironed that quirk out.
I don't know how to use a compass. I cannot read a paper map. I only use my phone.
>>2724719yeah but i am east coast usa and i cannot figure out am i suppose to rotate it left or right to account for magnetism or whatever
I've never used a physical map and compass before but I assume if you're completely lost you're supposed to orient the map so that north on the map aligns with north on your compass and use landmarks to figure out where you are
>>2724755>landmarks this does not work in a dense forest lol
>>2724759That's why you go towards a trail or body of water, assuming you know what side of it you're on
what do you mean you dont know how to read itthe arrow points fuckin northits not that hard
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>>2724649>a buttmad italian
>>2724749You are the only one incapable of contributing anything to any discussion, even the muh boots terrone made itself useful. Don't trying to argue and follow your own advice (or your boyfriend's, can't distinguish the imbeciles of this board).
I have fucked up feet and cowboy boots are the only ones that don't give me horrible blisters within a few miles. Anybody have any suggestions for cowboy/western-style boots with appropriate soles for hiking?
>>2724827Ropers
>>2724829Most still have pretty slick soles though, really looking for something with more traction and was hoping somebody might have experience with specific models or whatever. I was thinking some of the western work boots out there look like they could be good, and I could use a pair for actual work anyway, but they might also be too heavy.
For me:>Tent: MSR Hubba Hubba 2>Bag: Gregory Baltoro 65>Sleeping bag: Marmot Sawtooth 15>Sleeping pad: Zlite
>>2721786Boil water in pot for one minute
>>2719229there's definitely a theme to my shit >backpacking tentlitefighter 1>car camping tent with dog, gf, normie friends, etcspicer peak 6>bag carinthia defense 1, supplemented with a heavy blanket if car camping >padneoair xtherm
>>2719241can someone ID this backpack? i wanna larp as snufkin too.
>Pack: Veshmeshok+Belt mounted haversack>Shelter: OR Helium Bivy+Plash Palatka/Tarp>Warmth: Hammock Gear 30F quilt+Swagman>Pad: EVA Foam+a Klymit insulatedThis is for 3 or more days in colder weather. In summer I drop the quilt and only use the swagman. The thin pad makes a nice place to sit and adds cushioning to the back of my potato sack backpack
>>2722871>litefighterNoice, thinking about getting a winter kit for mine this year
Welcome to beekeeping general. Discuss apiary and bees.Old thread: >>2577491
>>2724718Thanks bro. Epipen sounds like a great idea. Can you do a monthly sting instead?
>>2724816What about a warre style of hive, it appeals to me to mess with the bees as little as possible and to let them live their own lives until harvest time.
>>2724828Tbh I'm not exactly sure in the optimal amount, you don't really "need" to do it at all, but I work without gloves anyway so it usually happens by itself, at least during the season. Personally, I think it's a great idea, it also helped me to stay calm and never drop a frame when I get stung all of a sudden.
>>2724832Yes, warre is absolutely recommendable. Probably one of the closest designs to them living in a hollow tree, while still being able to work on the bees. They can naturally build down and you remove the oldest comb with a harvest. They will produce less than with a commercial langstroht setup, but that is greatly offset by reduced materials and work. In doubt just add hives until you are happy with workload/harvest.
