Proxies edition>Previous Age:>>92527098『Horus Heresy』>Official Websitehttps://thehorusheresy.com/>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#the-horus-heresyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#the-horus-heresy>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics>Fluff(visions and BL)/folder/FepmWCBL#mVFzgCLouF_RDkRX9LgNeg/folder/OiATGCjK#jW1dY6KRM6zshg0A7bvWkA>HH1 Black Books/folder/s9xQ3CiA#9a594y1utfRGxKLxiIy2aQ/folder/QkpUCIhK>HH2 Rules and Supplements/folder/7jYhnbzT#CHimCvMfmF86Gwoc7nh4ZA『Adeptus Titanicus』>Rules and supplements/folder/s9xQ3CiA#9a594y1utfRGxKLxiIy2aQ/folder/p5YjXaLL>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>homemade missions:https://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2019/09/matched-play-missions-for-adeptus.html>Thread question:How much hobby related stuff do you have to do right now before you go ahead and get even more models?
>>92544846I need to finish painting 10 more tacticals and 10 assault marines, not to mention two rhinos, a predator, kratos, jetbikes, land speeder, fire raptor, HQs, etc. that I haven't even started. Need to base the entire army also. Aaaaand I ordered auxilia anyway
Do you anons know if there's a nice Planetstrike or Planetary Empires system for 30k? Official or houseruled.
>>92545192Planetstrike, I think the 7E one works, no? 2.0 is 7.5th edition, right?
>>92544846Trying to be good. Ordered the AoD box and told myself I’m dedicated to finishing it before more more purchases. It’s hard but the feeling of accomplishing the current project feels good man.
I like this kit. The carapace weapons will drop straight in if you just cut a couple pegs off, the hips are ball joints instead of the warhound's flat slabs so the legs are more posable, there's neat detail under the carapace gun. The volcano cannon looks the best, but is the worst, the neutron laser is probably the best. The conversion beamer is probably the most practical but the weapon card has a bunch of mistakes. First it fails to indicate that draining and maximal fire are supposed to be on the long range profile only, like other conversion beam weapons, and it doesn't have the carapace rule like it should.I'm certain we won't get another titanicus rulebook or some kind of event that would make some maniples that include these, so they'll only ever really replace a dog in a maniple.
I was thinking of turning the model of the month into a nullifactor consul, think it'll work? Obviously I need to swap the arms and shoulder pads out, and scrape off the inappropriate details but once that's done it should look fine, if a bit big.
Anons, what is the most “iron hands” vehicle you can think of that is currently on sale?
>>92545505Land raider
>>92545505cerberus
>>92545505Baneblade
>>92545505whatever has the best combination of high AV all around and high HP>hard to chip>gets better on its own
>>92545531Can marines even take a baneblade?? This one sounds like cheating
>>92545555legacies gives them a bunch of guard superheavies, artillery, and aircraft
>>92545574They can take marauders? Dang that is kind of cool.
>>92545505Three Predators in formation.
>>92545505Legion Malcadors
>>92545590It's great for shattered legions and blackshields to show an army that's basically just grabbing whatever gear they can get or commandeering command of some auxilia or militia.
>>92545655FOUR Predators in formation.
>>92545505VindicatorsMalcadorsLand Raiders (any variety)Kratos
Do librarians need tabards and capes or anything of the like in 30k? Books, maybe scrolls, sure are the clothes really necessary?
might give my warsmith a fancy chainfist so he has a ton of attacks
>>92545756O shit i like the helmet of the thousand sons one.
>>92545798Don't. Warsmiths already have Servo Arms. Look again, anon: Servo arms aren't specialist weapons>4A base>+1 from charging>+1 from two close combat weapons>+1 from "Servo arms do an extra attack with this profile"7 power fist attacks
>>92545664That’s a really good idea actually, might have to pinch it for when I get around to doing my Blackshields.
>>92545298You might be right, yeah. Trying to dig up a PDF on Planetstrike, but I can't seem to find one from a suspicious source, so I may have to get a hardcopy second-hand. Funny enough, I managed to get a Planetstrike PDF at least. Very small, but has all the information you may need, really.
>>92545826>Servo arms aren't specialist weaponsi know, neither are chainfists, 6 chainfist attacks + servo arm on the charge
>>92545827It's pretty cool how you can game the army list to represent a fairly small amount of space marines leading the puny humans into battle while still remaining a legally space marine army.
>>92545364The neutron laser can trigger venatarii maniple special shooting no? Would make it a very strong addition to running a bunch of venatarii with volcano reavers.Also, god do I want a 40k scale direwolf.
>>92545871But chainfists are the same S8 AP2 against people. It's not like you are meleeing a tank.Especially not when your power weapon can be an S4 AP3 haywire mace for no cost
>>92545995if i was taking the mace id just take a TH instead
Finally encountered the Rhino chassis baseplate problem everyone was whingeing about. Can't say it was as bad as other modellers made it out to be, but there you go.What are you pricks working on?
>>92546021Terminator Warsmith. Comes with power weapon and Servo Arm base.
Is the helmet "too much" for HH Night Lords?
>>92546633There's no "too much" for night lords, that's the whole point.
>>92545472You can do a lot of stuff with that model. I converted mine to be a Chaplain in Terminator Armor.It is NOT a push-fit model. The shoulder pads are separate parts. The arms can easily be swapped. The only really important identifying bits that might need to be removed are the three sculpted broken swords and the crux terminatus on left shoulder and right knee.One thing to note is that the model is angled downward a bit, like imagine someone leaning forward. I tilted mine back and had the left foot stepping on some Xeno skulls.
>>92546647Yeah, the Night Lords pre Heresy, post Heresy and ten thousand years later look pretty much identical. Some more eight pointed stars, sure, but that's it.
>>92446261>I still think brutal should be handed out on weirder stuff, like destroyer pistols finally having a reason to be scary and taboo (the fire tiny nukes instead of tiny rockets)Yeah but I don't want to make basic Destroyer bolt pistols better than the volkite serpentas they pay to upgrade to.Besides there's the Mechanicum pistols. Brutal would make them better than Radium pistols, and Fleshbane better than a Lucifex.Maybe Poisoned 3+ or 4+, but definitely Rad Phage.Though I'd make Rad Phage be able to affect the whole squad rather than just 1 model that survives an unsaved wound. Would also have Rad phage only last 1 turn to compensate, and only on a failed Toughness test after suffering a wound. And Heavy units will need to test only if they suffer an unsaved wound instead. Test every time the attacker finishes its attacks for that phase, but it doesn't stack with itself, and the -1T won't count for ID.
>>92545756>Stop invincible son
>>92545472No. that's the wrong mark, nullifcators wear catapractii. You can use the mace tho.
>>92447544>primarchs can't get in a duel unless it is another primarchI'm always loathe to changing core rules, but I keep seeing situations where people Issue a challenge with their kited out character only to have some Sergeant accept the duel. So you can have Sigismund killing a low sergeant five times before he hits the ground while the rest of the unit hurries to kill the Templars, now that Sigs is busy. So a change could be:>Type: Balance/Homebrew>Faction: COREWhen a challenge is issued, roll off using the Challenger's Ld vs the challenged unit's highest Ld. The winner decides who gets to accept (or reject) the challenge. Models with the Chosen Warriors rule can always choose to accept the challenge themselves, regardless of the test result.Additionally, Primarchs can ignore the Heroic Stand if they win the Ld test.>WhyYou can waste the enemy's kited out character's challenge by accepting it with a sacrificial character. With this at least there's some interaction and can even prevent that.
>>92545756Yes, because space wizard.
>>92546954I really enjoy the interactions around challenges, as they are one of the few choices you get to make in combat. Frankly, any beatstick character needs to run with an idiot to push in front of bad challenges.
>>92546954>>92547108Also, if you want to homerule it, I think it might be better to make a rule that punishes issuing a challenge and eating shit. Something like excess wounds counting 2x for combat result.
>>92546633My personal rule of thumb is that "40K version of Thing" bitz can be *sparingly* used for characters and elite units in 30K, so long as they have no recognisably Primarishit/Cawly design elements.Simply because yeah, you could just use loads of 40K bitz on your 30K guys, but then why not just make a 40K army? I *want* my 30K version of 40K things to look different.
>>92546856I think people really have to remember that at the end of the day we're still talking about bolt pistols. Making them too powerful or giving them a bunch of complicated rules seems daft. I'd stick with something simple like giving them Shred - it's enough to say "these aren't your Daddy's bolt pistol" without totally overshadowing volkites or introducing a bunch of extra bookkeeping.
Finished up my AL Praetor
>>92546524Cultists
>>92544846>TQWay too much. But a lot of the stuff I've got in the backlog has since gone OOP, which has retroactively justified a lot of it.
>>92547617>*something* of the legion>destroyers can choose to increase the "pistol x" of their guns by +1 in the shooting phase in exchange for dropping the bonus attack from charging in their subsequent assault phase (NOT making their own charge disordered so they still get other charge bonuses)Destroyers now have a niche gimmick. If they commit to the charge they take less damage because fewer enemy models to hit back after double shooting, or they can just stay away from their target and force them to gamble a 10-12" charge whilst every asshole in the unit gets 4 bolt pistol shots or 6 serpenta shots per turn before overwatch.
>>92546954I'm not a fan of this. It makes high-Ld high-lethality characters just able to blanket murder anyone they want at any time.
>>92547617Half the issue is just that twin bolt pistols really aren't representative of what the unit is meant to be. The idea of a terrible war crimes unit who... are just worse than standard veterans in pretty much every conceivable regard.
>>92546856>>92547617>>92547815forget about the bolt pistols entirely and bake twin serpentas into the base unit cost so they can deflagrate mortals at the units base cost.
>>92548319Still doesn't really address the war crimes bit.I know rad grenades are supposed to do that, but it's not their primary weapon and they don't actually do much. Vets with Power Swords are more likely to kill something than destroyers with rad grenades and chainswords - it's hardly criminal.
>>92548331I guess they'd be war crimes units in legions that only very rarely employed such measures, but then you look at Night Lords or Death Guard or Iron Hands or Mechanicum and honestly destroyers feel almost like a lighter touch to dealing with a population.
>>92548382Yeah, but that's my point.Destroyers in fluff and destroyers in crunch don't line up at all.
>>92547598Didn't Cawl create the Primaris during the Horus Heresy?
I see the trolls are leaking out of /40kg/.
>>92548517No.
>>92548331>>92548397that is because they need actual warcrime weapons Poisoners, that is such a stupid name, have a warcrime flamer. Whenever you fight a majority t3 army your opponents need to be seating bullets about where/when your destroyers will appear.
>>92548517No, Second Founding.
>>92546633Nah, I think it's fine; I think it looks as 'chaosy' as the other NL upgrade helmets.In fact, I'd dare say that almost everything in 40k's NL sprues would fit in 30k.
>>92548622Where did you get this picture from? It's way too high res and clear to be from GW's store page.
>>92545364What did you cut off? I haven't made mine yet.> no carapaceThat's deliberate as a buff to the weapon. No carapace means no fixed arc and no minimum distance to shoot it (due to smaller scale things)
>>92548642I made the image.I downloaded their sprue images, from the Community page, and then I upscaled them with an AI program.
>>92548697Big if true
>>92545940> trigger shield down hunter shot?No. It bypasses the voids it doesn't blow them out. It won't trigger the Reaver's shot.At the same time, you can try to use the bolters to blow the shields, have the reaver then shoot, then finish with a conversion beamer aimed shot. That's a legit tactic.
>>92548697That's the kind of autism I support and encourage, godspeed anon
>>92548622Those plugs on the banner trophy guy look a bit odd, is it supposed to be a dreadnought pilot?
>>92548697Gigachad.
>>92548697Chad.Also why is GW so stupid and not displaying both sides of their sprues? Bizarre fatherless behaviour.
>>92546916Thanks senpai, the scheme is almost entirely based on the Cult of Paint video. Went with the brownish bases, feel like they'd represent Isstvan V or Cthonia pretty well.
>>92548739Looks like standard black carapace plugs to me
where's the thursday article?
>>92548825Ligma Thursday is cancelled so they can try and build hype for AoS
>>92548825It seems, in your autism, you killed it...
>>92548835they're gonna need more than a thursday for that
>>92548838REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW WILL SHITTY HH CONTENT CREATORS MAKE A WEEKLY LOW EFFORT VIDEO NOW???????? THEY NEED CLICKS
Why hasn't GW made shitty Horse Jersey anime episodes for their WH+ streaming service?
>>92548800headhunter gang rise up
>>92548905And WHERE is the Horn Hearse musou game???
>>92544846Newfag here, how do you access those supplements? which site hosts them? obviously putting just /folder/andwhateverfollows doesn't work
>>92548927mega dot nz
>>92548918Looking good senpai. How are you running them? Overseer, allies or straight up? I'm starting out with 30 dorks and then I might need to build myself a whippy boy
>>92548905Even GW is better than having anything to do with Jersey.
>can't decide which of my two favorite legions to make an army of>they can't even ally together properlyis it really possible for a chogoris boy and an olympia boy to be in a relationship...
>>92549039shattered legions if you want to be fluffly Blackshield if you want stronger rules.
>>92549062oh yeah i forgot those just releasedthanks anon
>>92545756They don't need it in 30k and neither in 40k. Old models in PA and TA didn't had it.It usually looks good though. You could use those to distinguish lower and higher ranking Librarians if you want some without clothes.
>>92548927If you're looking for units and their rules in supplements, I just use Battlescribe desu. Less of a hassle.
What do you guys put in your Spartan lads? I'm building the one from my starter box and I'm not sure what to use it for. Not even sure I might need it.I olay IW if that helps so I was thinking Dominators.
>>92548706>>92548736>>92548757>>92548763Aw shucks. Thanks guys.>Also why is GW so stupid and not displaying both sides of their sprues?This. Luckily some reselling stores (like Element Games) do at times take their own pics of the other side of the sprue. Still Geedubs should do it themselves (at a higher res).
>>92549039Tell us about your plans for each force? Are you planning Loyalist White Scars and Traitor Iron Warriors? Or do you have a different idea? What's your main draw to each force?
>>92548710The shock rule applies the shutdown order to the titan which does blow out the shields on top of rendering it inactive.
>>92547598IMO you can push it further with legions like TS and DA because their whole aesthetic is already being encrusted in detail head to toe as-is in 30k
Honestly, female custodes might be the best piece of Horus Heresy lore in years. Think about it, why would Horus rise up because the Emperor and Malcador withdrew to the Imperial Dungeon to play with model trains? But the Emperor leaving to the Imperial Sex Dungeon with five thousand amazonian muscle mommies, while leaving none around for you or your brothers? Sounds to me like the Heresy was justified.
I like it.
>>92549191Dominators are a good shout - mostly it'll be melee, and for IW, that means vets, command squads, or dominators.
>>92548995they're starting out as a 500pt ZM force with:>legate marshall>lifewards>20 rifles>10 axes>3 medics>ogryns
>>92545940You can only replace an optional warhound with a dire wolf so those maniples would be a reaver, 2 dogs, and a wolf, which is getting expensive, you could probably only run two of those in a high points game.
>>92549437At least now women exist that are more primarch sized.
>>92549456I prefer these
>>92549437Custussy is the most precious resource in the galaxy
>>92549665Aren’t these guys the inspiration for the shadowkeepers?
>>92546524Painting up my first DG marine as both a paint scheme test and to dip my toes into painting properly for the first time.This shit takes forever to do, either my brushes are too small or I’m just taking too long. WIP pic, just got done basecoating the pale armour. Still need to basecoat other stuff and highlight and base. Happy with the back at least
>>92549709>shadowkeepersIs that "new" custodes lore?If the "shadowkeepers" are the custodes in black, then I think the source of inspiration is actually custodes wearing black to remind of their failure to protect him, which was then retconned because emperor good and gold good
>>92549763Shadowkeepers are the dudes that guard the super duper dangerous guys and abomination in dark cells on Terra. It's not super recent lore but it's still from their first codex.You're thinking of the Companions that have their armor stripped bare by being close to the Emperor and the fact that, before Guilliman came back and told the Custodes to stop moping, they did wear black cloth in morning and as a reminder of their failure for the War in the Webway and the Emperor's near death.
>>92549740use a bigger brush for basecoating if you think it takes a long timethin your paints
>>92549801>>92549763For me, it's the Dankanatoi
>>92549313Standard allegiances for whichever one I'd pick, it's more just a concern of money and space. Allying them would mean I can still have a few of the dudes I like from the other part, but they're distrusted so it'd be a bit of a hassle.I like them both for their lore and palettes, but also dig their complimentary focuses on fast and heavy vehicles respectively. Anon mentioned shattered legions, so I'll probably do that. Have it be a distant WS crusade vanguard trying to link back up with the main force that united with some IW from a planetary garrison who resent Perturabo more than the Imperium. That seems fun.
>>92549868
>>92548800You nailed the scheme bro. I just started kitbashing my SoH dark emissary.
>>92544846Outstanding to do would be:Finish painting KhanBuild and AtraposBuild and paint Kharon transportPaint 2 x Termite assault drills
>>92549709No, these were the inspiration for Saggitarum guard Custodes
>>92549868who
>>92549665Who the fuck are these guys
>>92549933They're knights-errant all dressed up in nu-mk3.
>>92549191Dominators make perfect sense
>>92544846I don’t relate purchases and progress, but right now I need to work on some stuff before my next game:Build AshurhaddonBuild OverseerBuild TLC ReaversBuild apothecariesBuild Leviathan Dread and actually paint some stuff lmao
>>92549437I can believe female custodes, but the emporer being straight? now you're being ridiculous
>>92549437The golden throne is in reality feeding on zinc, not psykers.
>>92550023Every gay man needs a fag hag army
>>92548838They don't want to show the female Custodes
>>92549456I like it for a potential EC conversion but I think he said those were meant to be fem custodes, the guys 30k line is by far my favorite marines style, plus his main account has great guard and mechanicum stands ins too
>>92550201Whomst?
>TQLong ago I accepted that I’ll never finish anything so I just buy more anyways. I really do need to get started on the stormbird I ordered at Christmas…
>>92550218MMF - DivergingRealms with a bit of digging, you can easily find his other account, I just don't want to make it to easy for the James rep in this thread
>>92544846>TQa lot of shit. a metric shitton of shit.the hobby kept me afloat for 7 years of hell. i won't last another
>>92549804Yeah I might grab a bigger brush next time, I only had “small” scale brushes so maybe a medium one would be better next time. I also started from a wraithbone prime and basecoated the model with Zandri dust without realising there is a Zandri dust rattlecan…Probably would have saved me lots of time and annoyance.Also the paint thinning shit I’m so bad at, I’m using a wet palette and I make sure to mix 1 part water with 1 part of whatever paint I’m using and it still turns out thick.>>92544846>>TQI have a lot to do before I get to have fun in general>Assemble the 40 Solar aux riflemen that will be arriving next week>Assemble the 9 Solar aux command dudes>Assemble a Legate Marshal>Assemble an Aethon Sentinel>Paint 40 tactical marines>Paint 2 Apothecaries>Paint a Leviathan Dreadnought>Paint a Sicaran Venator>Paint a Praetor>Paint all of the Solar Aux stuffOnce I’m done with that I can then justify buying the leftover auxila stuff I need (20 more riflemen, 2 Aethon sentinels and those veletaris sentinels when they come out) and getting 10 terminators and a siege breaker. Then once all those are painted I can finally play my first game.
>>92549956I'd take a knight errant unit upgrade kit.
>>92550525https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI bretty good guide
Anyone know how the resin solar aux lasrifle section size up with the new plastics? Like are they bigger or same size?
Speaking of knights-errant, I’m converting up a couple from several old kits and I’m on the hunt for good legs. Right now I’m looking at chopping up a white scars praetor, Sirae Karragon, one of the honour guard from Marneus Calgar’s old kit, and using one of the bionic legs from the old character conversion kit or the IH mkIII; any other suggestions?
>>92547122Oof that sounds so powerful. How about just an extra +1 to combat res to the winner? I mean you are already conditioning who gets to fight who, is that not useful enough for you?>>92547108Yeah that's the thing. Sacrificial sergeant booo>>92547808Should high LD high lethality characters be stalled because the enemy sacrifices some sergeant to him? Win the LD test and you still can
>>92550925>Should high LD high lethality characters be stalled because the enemy sacrifices some sergeant to him?If you don't want to be stalled, don't challenge, simple as. Mulch through the squad.Otherwise, it just because "Who has the bigger, toughest, commandiest of them all", and that way herohammer lies.
>>92547797>Scourge of the LegionIt sounds like a lesser Chainfire. Which is very interesting. Bridges the gap between bolt pistols and volkites, and doesn't prevent charging. I wish Moritats got that thing you described, as an alternative to True Chain Fire.However, it doesn't do anything towards making bolt pistols into WAR CRIME FORBIDDEN weapons.Also, what would it do with hand flamers?>>92547617Don't have them be mere bolt pistols broo.
Does anyone remember where in the SoC book it mentions Iron Warrior inductii being wired into tanks or standing still for months at a time? Or the WB ones replacing their vocal cords with blasphemous Vox broadcasts.
>>92551128>Iron Warrior inductii being wired into tanks or standing still for months at a time? page 126>Or the WB ones replacing their vocal cords with blasphemous Vox broadcasts.pages 126-127
>>92549913Hell yeah bro, post pics.
>>92548517It is my sincere and genuine wish that you terminate your life forthwith and without delay, for the good of mankind and the sanity of all who have or would have the misfortune to know you. The method should be agonising and longwinded, so you have the proper amount of time to grasp what a worthless waste of flesh you are.
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>>92550053Zinc?
>>92550953>If you don't want to be stalled, don't challenge,The enemy challenges, I stall him. His big guy duelist is busy killing some sacrificial sergeant while the main guy kills the rest of his squad.I cannot be stopped. This can at least give the other guy a chance.
>>92551428>I cannot be stopped.Yes you can. If you throw a strong character with a weak squad into a strong squad with a mid character, you don't challenge, because this is precisely the counter.If you can't refuse a challenge, then the person with the biggest beatstick pretty much always wins. God forbid you have to think before challenging or face some consequences for being outplayed.
>>92551324
>>92549740You don't want a small brush, you want a big brush with a decent tip for basecoating. I normally use something like a #2 / large citadel / army painter monster brush for most basecoats.With regards to thinning paint, make sure your paint is properly shaken. Are you using agitator balls? If not, those are probably worth using. Next, thin your paint until it's about the consistency of milk.If you're looking to do some quick and easy weathering, I'd recommend some sponge chipping. Something like a little Thondia Brown and some Leadbelcher will really help dirty this guy up.
>>92548575>Poisoners, that is such a stupid name, have a warcrime flamer.I mean, so do their Tactical Support squads.I'd give them all Toxiferran flamers base, that rending is very good against Astartes armour. And can swap them for Heavy Alchem.No to rad missiles, yes to having Phosphex bombs as a 1-in-5 special weapon. Double down on the poison stuff
>>92549098>librarians>not looking like rank and file marinesThat is not very nikaea-cash of you, witch-kisser
what happened to heresy thursday?
>>92551656They canceled it for being too based.
>>92549437We keep 40k drivel out of here. The Emperor is a baseline human lover, he won't even dare the thought of a Custodes race that can procreate.
>>92550925It would be a pretty massive penalty, but it’s only really an issue when you use a dipshit sergeant to issue a challenge to Sigismund. In terms of narrative, it represents the sergeant stepping up and getting clowned so hard the rest decides they’re good.
For all the shit MkVI gets for not fitting with certain legions it’s a very nice kit.
Which Primarch do you think genuinely cared the most about humanity as a species?>inb4 meme answers like Sanguinius
>>92551707Is it? Worst kit I've worked with.
>>92551727Angron.
There is nothing hotter than Perdition weapons.
>>92551727Fulgrim pre-heresy
>>92551707Counterpoint: monopose, split shoulder pads, hands moulded onto guns. CAD was a mistake.
>>92551727Magnus, plain and simple. No one was more dedicated to the advancement of humanity, and he paid the price for it.
>>92551445>If you throw a strong character with a weak squad into a strong squad with a mid character, you don't challenge, because this is precisely the counter.Strong characters should challenge middle characters. It's literally their thing. This only proves any points spent on taking duelists would be better spent on taking better units instead.
>at some point after the Heresy Leman Russ wrote several books including De Natura Belli, Meditations on Imperial Command, and A Book of Admonitions for the Legiones Astartesso in other words Leman eventually became the very thing he once swore to destroy, a massive fucking nerd
>>92551795>Strong characters should challenge middle characters.So you just want to always have the advantage? Is spending a turn mulching the squad going to kill you? And if you really must have that 1v1, snipe out the weaker character before you charge.
>>92551707I concur, anon. All the new plastics are very high quality and go together very nicely. If they make the torsos separate pieces like SA got, I think the next kit might set the gold standard.
>>92551696>when you use a dipshit sergeant to issue a challenge to SigismundActually, "Dolorous Fighter" forces Sigismund to issue and accept challenges. Meaning every sergeant will stall him. Even if Siggy is accompanied by Chosen Warriors squads like Templars.>Siggy + Templars vs generic TH IC & TH Command termies>They enter combat, and Siggy calls for a duel. Accept with a sacrificial Chosen Warriors>Siggy murders the guy>The hammernators murder Siggy's squad>Next round, Sig calls for a duel>Waste his i5 attacks on him and kills him>Siggy gets Hammered>Eternal Warrior>But Brutal 2
>>92551831Anon, I am the guy with the weaker character and stronger unit. I am the one with the advantage. I am the one who spends the turn mulching the squad while the guy who studied the blade wastes his time and talent pissing on a no-name sergeant's grave.I think the scales are tipped in my favor, and I'd like to balance it back
>>92551884They're tipped in your favour because your opponent made a mistake.If a HSS decided to charge my power sword veterans, I wouldn't clamour for a balance change, I'd tell my opponent to stop being a damn fool.
>Infernus Abominationi'm gonna do it, as a basis for further work anyhowstay tuned
>spray can runs out halfway through a single modelle sigh
>>92551727Lorgrar>>92551850That's why you attach him to a squad with nemesis bolters
>>92551850Sigismund has 4 wounds, he'll survive.And even if you "waste" those attacks, they count for combat resolution, meaning unless the squads were wildly mismatched, that's a hefty penalty for the morale check. Chances are you end up sweeping the IC who avoided the fight anyway.
>>92551656Basically cancelled to make room for the new edition of AoS. We may get new releases during summer but they will be few and far between.
>>92552048The plastic melee weapons set was promised for this Spring, though
>>92552048b-but there isn't even a resin model for legion overseers yet>>92552069why are they doing us so dirty bros?
Were there Legions that didn't have Solar Auxilia support? Legions like WE or IW who would waste them and weren't given the support?
would you accept a game from Alpha Legion painted like this?
>>92552069They said there'll be releases, just not Heresy Thursday releases. I'd expect the Melee weapons at some point.
>>92552116i don't think it would make a lot of sense for far-gone eaters (read: berserker assault) to be integrating auxilia into their formations even if it's kosher with an overseerthey couldn't be reasonably expected to keep up, if the legionaries involved didn't make chum out of them for fun outrighta crusade force allied detachment is verboten for them anyhow
>>92546633Don't listen to the /40kg/ visitors. Swap out the chainsword and plasma pistol for 30k equivalents, shave off the eye on the left kneepad, change the power pack to its 30k equivalent, swap out the pauldrons for MK II or III, and it should be fine. The original FW 30k helmet kit for NL would also work well.
>>92548688Answer me faggot
>>92551744That's a very High Elf looking swordSpear is the real MVP of the set
>>92551791You faggot, Magnus did everything wrong the arrogant bastard.>>92551324>He doesn't know
>>92552175Two nubs on the hydraulic arms attached to the gun.
>>92552163I like how you couldn't be bothered to actually read the post you're replying to.
>>92552124I would accept a game from anyone at this point.
>>92552069Considering the absolute shitshow the command squad turned out to be, I’m not holding my breath
>>92552317I've discovered that the trick with FW releases is to ignore their description.For example, the command squad sprue is not really for that. It's actually a steath IF Templars / UM praetorians kit.
>friend wants to start painting walls first before buying models because he says "if I can do good with a broad brush I can do good with a fine brush"I don't know how to refute that but there's a part of me that wants to stop him from getting the plastic crack. Guy's having a baby
>>92552338You mean Space Crusaders Headquarters Unit by Kromlech
>>92552317Well the solar aux command is done justice
>>92552354>dollar store 40k BT/DANo. Aesthetics matter in 30k
>>92552377SA are pretty good in my book, even if the axe boys seem a little clunky (reserving final judgement for actual Heresy painters to get a shot at them, not Eavy Metal or Troonhammer). Makes it even weirder the Legion Command is such a shitshow desu
I mean, what were you expecting?
>>92552451A kit, not an upgrade
>>92552451>NNNNNGGGGHHH I'M.... SHITTSING !?
>>92552451
>>92552451not:>The only shield type we currently sell in plastic, but again>The only generic power weapon we currently sell in plastic, but again>Boring as fuck helmetsI was expecting the banners, and they're pretty good.
>>92552474Goddamnit I laughedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E_ntdYfMng
>induct/abduct/seduce little adolescent boys who can barely wipe their own asses>put them in power armoured septic suitswhat did the emperor (beloved by all) mean by this?
One Scorpius at 4k, is it still evil? Pic unrelated, just like autocannons.
>>92552553Shit is required in order to recirculate nutrientstherefore, find people who can't shit properly
>>92552570I intended to eventually bring 3 of them at 3k to be honest.
>>92552570At 4k nothing is evil
>>92552570Autocannon kinoooooooo
>>92552570Are belt-fed autocannons the pinnacle of Heresy kino?
>>92552783nuh-uh that would be backpack-wire-fed low-hoisted lascannonsthough plenty is comparable
>>92552819Those are the worst of all the heavy weapons
>>92552854idk laser cannons are pretty kino concerning science fiction outright, to me at least
>>92552869Lascannons should be over the shoulder, the low hoisted ones are ugly
>>92552591I see. Are you Jewish?>>92552783100%.
>>92547771And a Saboteur
>>92547771Based. What unit will you attach him to, though?>>92553254NoiceShotgun on him feels weird though.
>>92553276It might be retarded but I was gonna give him a shotgun and have him infiltrate in with an Effrit disruption cadre.
Got plenty of work left to do, but I think I've figured out most of the basics of this Overseer. Are we looking kino, lads?
>>92552501Champion of Nurgle
>>92552989Nope. I just learned that the 3 arquitors I was playing were worse in every way and I intend to milk that Ironfire for all its worth.
I have to paint up this Battlezone-Pattern Malcador, finish building the Russ, finish painting the Sentinel, and go pick up a Command Squad. That's the extent of my 40k pile of shame. The cultist sprue doesn't count because it's just conversion fodder and the Kingdom Death stuff doesn't count because... uhh... look, behind you, a Salamanders Special Character!
>>92553462Look good, but don't forget to drill the stubber, anon!
>>92553462That truly is one of the vehicles I've seen in my time.
>>92553462Is this a looted vehicle for the Panoptica orks fandex?
>Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>>92552451Well, not a IF templar brethren upgrade kit thinly disguised as a "command squad upgrade kit"
>>92546559i know. i dont have a terminator th/mace arm kek
>>92544846Im excited anon, for the first time in a long time with HH.I got a gameing group that is big on playing and they are trying to get another buddy of mine to join.But here is the best part, they are trying to talk him into playing orks with some fan made rules for them. Im super here for it becuase i love the older style rule sets of HH, and if i can get legiosn to fight orks, fuck yeah. He even has a god crusher mega stompa, the reaver titan equivalent and i told him bring it, ill bring my reaver and we can have them duel.
>>92545472Change their arms for Cataphractii ones and you have a nice Cataphractii squad
What's the opinion on Jetbikes but for a generic legion?
>>92553966excellent platform for getting multi meltas or culverins or whatnot in nice and close no matter what you're playing
>>92552570>4k Legion units>turn 1 easily wipe 500 points of Secutarii with Scorpius squadron >kill enough of 500 points of Militia to break the rest and send them running, they won't be back>now just that Warlord Titan to deal with>turn 6 still desperately scattering troops as Warlord stamps around the board murdering everything>elite melee can't get in close enough in enough numbers to even hit it>elite shooting was the first to die>can't cap the objectives and win on points because it keeps walking over and Stomping on the units>opponent has fitted a bluetooth speaker inside the body, plays Ride of the Valkyries every movement phase, weirdly good acousticsyou're fine, buddy
>>92554132Damn, I should build a bluetooth speaker into a thunderhawk to blast Ride of the Valkyries.
>>92553443>IW player is a hassid in denialpottery
>>92554279Oy vey, don't tell my secrets like that. The goym might be listening.
>finally read Siege of Cthonia>Garrius just spurges out about Dorn the entire time>Son of Horus dude frothing over muh martial honor constantly>Raven Guard are actually mega based>Legio Osedax throw 5 double melee warlords at 25 other titans including a Warmaster>Rocks fall, nobody with a name diesWhat the fuck was that?
>>92554506it was awesumsauce
>>92554506Futility™
>>92554506>RG are mega basedHow so?
>>92554561I'd assume it's the bit where the Deliverers repaint themselves as Justaerin, go to some knight/titan repair dock, use their knowledge of Justi lingo to get in, and blow the place sky-high, chuckling about their AL-level brain-blast the whole time.
>>92554561You know that sniper duel against the old guy in MGS3? The RG and AL do that.
>>92554610>AL time travels into the future to find RG dead of old ageNothing personnel, kid.
>>92554705>tfw something like this actually happened in one of the HH novels>It was a story centered around perpetuals, so it was only to be expected
>>92552213Appreciated faggot.Have a pic of my growing roses as thanks.NO ONE ELSE may use this image.
>>92551902>>92551884>1. Mirror match: Power fist Centurions in Boarding shield Command squads. This is about the least disparity between Character and Unit: both are WS5 | 2W | i1 | 2+/5++ and have power fists.No matter who the attacker issues a challenge with, a Chosen Warrior ought to accept the challenge so the IC is free to hammer away.If the attacker does not issue a challenge, the defender will issue one with one of his Chosen Warriors, in the hopes of locking someone out of the main combat, as refusing would mean one enemy model doesn't get to attack. Said challenge is to be accepted by a regular Chosen Warrior too.>2. Mirror Match: Hammer Praetor with regular Hammer terminators. Here the IC is noticeably stronger than the rest of the unitIf the Attacker were to issue a challenge, it should be with the sergeant, in an effort to draw the Praetor out and/or lock him out of combat. The Defender cannot refuse, so he has to take it with his own sergeant, lest he'd lose 3A.If the Attacker doesn't issue a challenge, then the Defender would issue it with his own sarge, trying to do just the same.In the end nobody wants to fight the other guy's sergeant...yet that's exactly what they'll end up doing, while the Praetors try to hammer the rest of terminators as fast as possible.So it seems no Independent Character would ever want to challenge sarges. Only sarges are disposable enough to fight other trashy sergeants.The side with the most expensive duelist IC is the side who will lose, as they just pooled points into someone whose full abilities only activate when dueling...but can also be forced to kill trash, while the other side's points went into having a better/larger unit.
>>92553341>Effrit already have shroud bombs>The biggest point of Saboteurs is that they are Centurions the enemy can't target unless they shoot first>Effrits already have Concussive shotguns. What they need is someone with a Sniper rifle insteadIt does sound like you could have him do something else, yeah.
are they just not doing paperbacks for knight of grey and teatd? or did I somehow miss a limited run
>>92547771whats your process for the blue-green? looks really nice desu
>cthonussy tome has an absolutely pungent new-book-smellit's the little things
>>92546524Got another tactical mostly done. Just weathering left.
>>92546524waiting for the weather to not have a forecast of rain all week so I can prime and trying to think of a color scheme for my Blackshields. I should also be cleaning flash and supports off my Immortals and but I want to lose colonies to my own stupidity in Rimworld more right now.
>>92553585Interesting print anon… looks vaguely familiar
>>92555699CheckedHow you kitting out your immortals?
>>92555763Two squads of 10Bolters, with AA and TH on the Sarge and two Grav Shredders per SquadThey are tick squads with mortis Boxnoughts providing fire support, brawler contemptors and a Nullificator deathstar pushing up and some snipers as support.Snipers and the HQs are still kinda up in the air because I am not in love with them and they haven't been built yet.
>>92545472you know if you're just going to use onethere's this thing you should do to him to make him truly stand out
>>92556123Paint him metallic blue with silver trim?
Thinking about building the felblade I’ve had sitting around this weekend. Has anyone built one before and have any tips? Don’t even know how to approach such a large resin piece. The next closest thing I have is the sicaran punisher but I don’t think it’s comparable.
>>92556177Checked.Heat bending, dry fitting, and liberal use of gap filler (i use vallejo putty and milliput). I built a stormhammer and didn’t hame much trouble at all actually. Nice kit. You have track units to worry about so it might be a little more tricky, but there is not much to it. Make sure to fix mould lines, flash, and fill air bubbles as well. Just get stuck in!
>>92556177For resin parts that are warped, just put them boiling hot water. Carefully fish them out (not with your fingers lol) then bend them straight as they cool. If it's not quite right after cooling down, just dunk the piece back into the hot water and try again.Can also use the hairdryer/heatgun method, but personally had more success with using hot water. Maybe because it's easier to evenly heat the entire piece of resin that way, or maybe just because it's more compatible with my particular strain of autism or something.
>>92555622Cool helmet.
Plastic Fellglaive kit (with included variants) when? I'm jonesing for the next road map.
What if you could charge after shooting with a Rapid Fire weapon if it has a bayonet ...>Then Tacticals would be better than Despoilers...but the unit didn't get the +1A from charging. Like, double tap a bolter, then see if you should charge the survivors. Less attacks could mean a combat loss, but if it doesn't look like the odds would be in your favor, you can just choose to not charge.It does sound needlessly complicated, but the purpose of a modern bayonet is that you don't have to switch between your main gun and your blade
>>92556897I dislike it, because it makes units with Relentless much less interesting.
>>92556958Are there Relentless units that get bayonets but not chainswords or power weapons, though?
I'm looking for the caveat i thought was there which states that a unit/model equipped with a jump pack cannot use a transport which is not also a flyerDoes it not exist?
>>92556897In certain cases I think it might benefit units to have a rule that says they may make Snap Shots with Rapid Fire weapons and declare a Charge in the same turn, but that Charge will always be considered Disordered. But even there I think that steps on the toes of eg SW players who can already basically do that if they want, though admittedly not with RF weapons. And I still think that should be on a per-unit basis, or even a Rite of War basis, for more widespread usage. That way you're not encouraging assault gunlines like some kind of filthy Ork player.
>>92557050The caveat is on the transport itself: technically Land Raiders can transport Jump Pack Assault marines, and they can also embark most Buildings.Problem is when they have "Infantry Transport"; like Rhinos do
>>92556976I don’t know, but now tacticals would get to do the same thing, which makes vets less interesting.
>>92557073>makes vets less interesting.WS5 Chosen Warriors with access to power weapons not cutting it for you, anon? Me neither desu
>>92557050AoD rulebook, p211>Certain types of Wargear also limit the ability of models to Embark upon Transport Vehicles. In all cases, this will be noted in the Wargear’s rules. E.g., models equipped with a Jump Pack or Jet Pack may not Embark on Transports that do not have the Flyer type. it's not actually in the various jump/jet pack rules, but it's in the main rulebook, which is less onerous than repeating it five times; it's been in 40k since at least 2008Sanguinius, other than not being able to board anything with the Infantry Transport rule because he has Bulky, can actually get in a Spartan because he doesn't have a jump pack.
>>92557082For me, it’s shooting two missile launchers and banestrike bolters into a squad before charging the survivors.
>>92557065>Snapshots and disorderedOof then using a bolt pistol would be better, anon! No point in all those gimmicks then booo>Steps on the toes of SWIt'd be awful if someone stole a Legion's thing, wouldn't it ¬¬
did any primarchs besides Angron and Kurze actually despise their own men outright?
>>92556177If it’s FW you shouldn’t have that many issues, most of the big pieces are thick enough that they won’t bend much due to tension. If it’s recast, be prepared. I’m actually a huge advocate of recasts, but the original FW ones come with plastic baneblade parts for the hull, and recasts very rarely do well with long thin parts like plastic tank hulls.
>>92553348>Where there's a whip there's a way>Where there's a whip there's a way>Left, right, left, right>Where there's a whip there's a way>The crack on the back says we're gonna fight>We're gonna march all day and night and more>For we are the slaves of the Dark Lord's war
>>92557212Perturabo. Though he eventually becomes able to despise everything, not just his legion. Literally pic related
>>92556792My bet is that the SA baneblade/variant kit will come first since we have a picture of it.
>>92556123Paint him poorly?
>>92554775Do you live in a train yard? That edging and mulch is atrocious
>>92557313I wonder what the chances are of GW making that Solar Auxilia Baneblade kit and using it as a basis for Fellblade and other tanks that use the chassis?
>>92545364I genuinely think Titanicus will outlive legions imperialis at this point. Titans sell, LI doesn't.
Instead of doing Istvaan thing Horus should have just invited all the loyalist primarchs to a meeting on a ship really close to the sun, telling anyone to stay in the ship who he thought would not go against the emperor tell them to stay on the ship while Horus "went to get some details from his secretary" then have that ship be plunged into the sun
>>92557466Titans and knights are the most interesting parts of the HH
Finally got my chance to read thru beta-garmon. And I must confess to how un-wowed I am by the shattered legion rules. I'll probably just ask my opponent if I can run 1st ed style instead.
>>92557556Oh yeah, since the Goonhammer article, everyone knows Shattere Legions are DOA.
Tanks! What are you guys working on this weekend?
>>92557556What didn't you like about the Shattered?
>>92557598My completely off-topic Heroquest set I got gifted last year. At least I'm using one model as a test for colored metal, then I will move to some TS
>>92556165This guardsman seems trustworthy. He should guard the command tent from the inside.
>>92557445I think that if you hold the new Malcador and Russ side by side with the current Baneblade, you should have a pretty good idea of how it’ll turn out. I’m pretty excited about the kit. I got my friend the original kit for his birthday over a decade ago (2010 lmao), and he never finished building it, nor painted it nor played a game with it. I look forward to slamming it out in a week and calling him a faggot.
>>92557598Hoping to work on kitbashing my Overseer. Looking for some bits for a chain tabard, but I may need to order some.
Combi-weapons, but where the base part is a volkite
>>92557598More solar aux, building the last of my lasrifle squads, and then building all 4 of those squads their aurox's
>>925577412
Wokie wokie GW go brokie!
>>92557942>*politely points out which toads in the allied detachment being fielded are grrls*
>>92557741>>92557778That would give marine chargers a good niche and SA companions a more thematic option compared to nicking 40k guard weapons.
>>92557598Hopefully gonna finish painting and basing the rest of my DG test marine before a huge load of solar aux stuff arrives on my doorstep.>>92551634I always make sure to give my paints a 10 second shake before using them. Some are fine, but the metallics are always watery and weak as fuck for some reason.>Are you using agitator balls? If not, those are probably worth usingFor one of the vallejo metallic paints yeah, but I'm struggling to notice much of a difference desu.>If you're looking to do some quick and easy weathering, I'd recommend some sponge chipping. Something like a little Thondia Brown and some Leadbelcher will really help dirty this guy up.I'm considering it, though I do like how clean and pretty he looks...Maybe once I've completed him and based him I'll see how he looks and decide If I wanna weather. Thanks anon.
>>92554506It's a lot of fun. I like the part where the IH show up only to tell Garrius & Co to get the fuck out of the way so they can charge blind into the planetary tunnel network.
>>92558056Look what they did to my beloved Veletaris.
>>92554582What page? Holy shit bro
>>92558234nta but p.82, 'The Incubi-18'they got fucking jacked
>>92558206I think the veletaris look cool still personally
>>92558206SA look so cool. I wish they weren't more awkward to paint than a Space Marine, and didn't die twice as easily as one. I'd love a swarm of dudes and tanks on the board, but it seems like the entire army is shite except Leman Russ Vanquishers which are OP
>>92558206I don't like their new Volkite Chargers.I wish they had kept the stock and horizontal grip.
>a several-millisecond long pulse of light off the pharos as it diedsummoning the tyranid hyperorganism to the milky way amidst its unfathomable dreaming and slumber in deep, deep spaceplay with fire, get burnt
>watch 2nd edition 40k battle report>imagining the whole time how much more fun HH would be if it had a similar vehicle damage result table>Pintle mount gunners having to take over as the driver cause their buddy got sniped out by a lascannon blast>Rhino tracks getting ripped off, forcing it to swerve all over the place uncontrollably and potentially run over some enemies or alliesThe narrative potential would only ensure more kino happenings
>>92558687It'd be fun for 1 turn and then you'd want to rip your brain out because there are a lot more units in play nowadays.Once in a while you find sole greybeards lurking here and the consensus is always that the RT-era rules were "fun" in small doses, otherwise they were a pain in the ass to remember and play with.
>>92558261thanks!
>>92550925Just make the challenge proc a morale check on the initiative of the winner. ezpz solution
I’ve managed to snag 2 mk4 dreads second hand and I’m wondering how I would go about equipping them. 2 mortis, one lascannons and the other auto cannons ? Also is the mk4 ironclad not time period accurate? I remember reading somewhere that ironclads were vulkans design but I can remember if it was pre or post heresy.
>>92558687the pintle gunner is as well the driver concerning deimos rhinos, as best i understand. the transported squad's sgt sits up in the compartment in the course of getting where they're going.maybe i'm wrong
>>92559203mortis lascannons with a searchlight is always solidotherwise lascannons+fist (and searchlight)
>>92558729>2nd edition>RT-eraI know plenty of people who play 2e and are making more 2e armies either by scavenging old 2e and RT models or using more modern minis. 2e rules are fun. Yes, there's a lot of tables and random stuff, but, win or lose, it's the most fun I've had with 40k in a long time. We're also playing a lot of Mordheim and have a bunch of young people hooked to it as well.
>>92559203The ironclad definitely fits in 30k, I feel.
do the old resin doors fit with the new plastic Deimos Rhino?
>>92559203I'm positive I've seen the FW Ironclad in the background of one of the black books. Besides, even if the Ironclad dreadnought as a pattern is post-Heresy, it's just an extra armoured MkIV Castraferrum dread. Slap a pair of arms on it and let it loose.>how I would go about equipping themMortis (double guns) and Furioso (double fists) are probably the most potent combos, depending on the legion, table, etc. 8 lascannons securing the rear while a twin-fisted "ironclad" charged up the field. Hellfire (gun and missiles) and plain gun and fist dreads are classic. Shame there's no AssCan option (unless you play IF or BA).
>>92559549i thought so. otherwise im in for a bad surprise
>>92555417Thank you it's GSW metal interference paints. Gloss black primer -> turqoise interference -> Blue interference with a few drops of green in for the midtones and highlights -> green on the highlights
im trying to remember a unit, all I can remember is>its in cataphractii armour>I think it was an examplary battles unitim alpha legion so its for stealing potential
>>92559691Dominator Cohort?Morlocks?
>>9255759820 Mantis Warrior Tacticals
>>92559890egg
>>92559890Are Pargon Blades or Thunder Hammers better for a SA Marhsal.Obviously he's not going to beat... anything, but what lets him dish out the most hurt in combat?
Added two more Contemptors to my IW today.
>>92560188Most hurt prolly Brutal hammer; marine characters would strike him at i5 anyways. It is weird that he gets the hammer at a discount. Like, why would he ever get a power fist when the hammer costs the same and is "a power fist but better"??That said, if they have hammers of their own, he can hope to Paragon them at i4 and hope to get lucky and get Murderous Strike?>>92560320Spiky Nipples>>92560380Monch
>>92560320that mortis looks like hes cold
>>92560433>>92560465Its a female dreadnought. Its allowed in the lore now. James said so.
>>92557598Finished big chonker recently.
>>92559838How goes the campaign, Badabanon?
>>92560540I love it. That washed out green is perfect.
>>92557995Tinkered with it a bit more
>>92560550cheers m8tanks are truly the most fun things to paint fre me.
>>92560568Volkite-Flamer is the optimal configuration. Conflagrate while you deflagrate.
>>92560606I dont actually care desu, I just like painting bitter dudes.
>>92560581Could tanks that big operate in deserts? Can normal tanks go on dunes irl? I know nothing of tanks desu.I see all those walker vehicles in fiction and ask "what's wrong with regular threads? I thought they were all-terrain"
>>92560540>>92560581Those mars mission orange treads are something
>>92560606>Why are we so against women in the lore?nobody is you disingenious snakeyou lie and poison the well with a first fucking sentenced of your "genuine" question
>>92560637May I introduce you to WW2 and the North African campaign, along with all the other wars in the region or other desert environments post-WW2?
>>92560623
>>92560656Well of course the Lee can, it's the number one tank for fun!
>>92560677And it's even a Salamander volkite-flamer. Perfect.
>>92559549What do you mean by old? If you’re refering to the ones currently sold by GW, they fit perfectly. I’ll post a picture in a bit
>>92560690>LeeThat's a Grant.
>>92560720>We took a turret off, now it's a different tankFuck off Brit.
>>92560745Grant was given a completely different turret for the 37mm gun, the radio was repositioned to the turret, and there's one less crewman. That's a bigger change than having a different gun or welding an extra piece of armour on the glacis and designating it a new tank variant.
>>92560677I want a volkite-flamer. Gimme.
>>92560677Volkites used to be the Astartes weapon for a while. So, relic volkite-combis might exist
>>92560933Would be a cool weapon for some special character.
>>92560933
so i have 2 sets of the old sternguard, the devastator kit, the old first born black templars upgrade box , and the old mk3 imperial fists torsos. what should i do. should i wait for the command squad kit to come out, those banners look cool.
>>92554506>>Garrius just spurges out about Dorn the entire timeIt's funnier if you read his profile beforehand and realize he spends the whole story doped up on painkillers.
>>92561567Won't he ever heal? :(
>>92561518>old sternguard, the devastator kit, the old first born black templars upgrade boxthose aren't kosher in the HH. Keep them for retro 40k games or sell them> old mk3 imperial fists torsosyou can kitbash them with the old mk3 if you find it, or with new mk3 tacticals if you cut them.> should i wait for the command squad kit to come out,It could be a good idea to buy the mk3 version of the kit to kitbash them with the IF torsos to make a unit of Templar Brethren. IF heresy transfer sheet has plenty of templar crosses and raptor icons.
>>92561594He probably doesn't deserve to.
>>92561610i was asking more in terms of what bits i could use from the kits not the whole kit, im well aware that devastators and the sternguard arent wholly usable but some of the torsos and other parts should be fine. i was looking for ideas not "im new and have 0 clue what im doing"
>>92561585>lorelet
>>92561585The New Man isn't Custodes or Astartes, it's Perpetual super-Psykers like the Emperor.That said, I don't like female Custodes because it's part of the continuing trend of straight women colonizing gay spaces for their own enjoyment. My big, gay Emperor surrounds himself for 10k years with muscly, bronzed dudes in leather underwear for a reason, dammit! And no whiny, white women backed up by musclegirl fetishists is going to change that.
>>92560645I am. I hate women.
>>92561741>it's part of the continuing trend of straight women colonizing gay spaces for their own enjoyment.;__;Idk what support SoS could get. Maybe jump pack SoS? "His reach is endless, His judgement swift"
>>92561802read the index for Sisters, they have a bunch of new units. Sister beastmasters! And that's just stuff they expect the players to be able to kitbash. You could also fo jump pack SoS, SoS Bikers, heavy armor SoS with psyker-warded shields
>>92561585>Especially when it loses them moneyIt loses sales, it does not lose investment from groups like Blackrock et al.>>92561610You're a retard. Those kits have mk6, mk5, and in the case of BT, mk4 parts. Of course a jew faggot would say such dumb shit.
How to equip AL saboteur consul? Power dagger or lightning claw?
>>92561970>Those kits have mk6, mk5, and in the case of BT, mk4 partsyeah, but they're full of 40k icons, moron. They also do not match the mk3 torsos. It's better to sell them and buy actual 30k kits with the money.Fucking lazy and cheap cunt. Do your homework before replying to a rivet counting question.
>>92562052I have mine with combi-melta, pair of lightning claws, and a power dagger.
>>92562052Double claws. Apparently the whole gist of Saboteurs is being Centurions the enemy can't shoot before they make the first move.I can vouch that power daggers mega suck. It doesn't matter if all your wounds are AP2 if you aren't wounding shit lmao
>>92561922>money free utopiaIdk I'd like free stuff ngl. There may not be free lunches...but the Sun does have 5 billion years worth of lunches.That's close enough to free energy.
>>92562054u can remove the imperialis with little issue, godwin bolters existed, purity seals can be oaths of moment. the real issue is mk7 helmets and legs and even then legs can be converted to mk5 and mk7 heads can be debatably converted to sarum pattern though that one isnt so solid. youre acting like im asking to use primaris
>>92562054>yeah, but they're full of 40k icons, moron.Heresy-era units didn't have templar crosses? Heresy-era vets didn't have the aquila or imperialis?Re-read the Black Books, faggot.>inb4 THOSE DON'T COUNT IT WAS JUST FW TRYING TO SELL MODELSCope, seethe, dilate, sneed, touch grass
>>92562148I wonder how many of these self-proclaimed experts on what is and is not kosher in 30k ever payed any attention to things like the Lion's belt lol
>>92562125I think that is the setting for one of the Raven Guard's Exemplary Battles, the one where they send 30 Moritats to kill a guy.
>>92562105>>92562102Double claw? Oh that's very insidious, good idea.
>>92562105>Is unable to roll a single 5+ everSkill issue t.b.h.
>>92562186Never let facts get in the way of a good 'tism.
>>92562148>Heresy-era units didn't have templar crosses? Heresy-era vets didn't have the aquila or imperialis?Sure, but usually not in the same distinct style or in the same armour marks>Re-read the Black Books, faggot.You first, retard, and this time pay attention>>92562186The style, placement, time period, and legion of iconography are different even if some can be reused or hand waved.You're a smart ass but visually retarded.
>>92562244Please post what icons cannot be used in 30k and which can, and what's the difference between 30k and 40k iconography.
>>92562198The RG do abandon their allies to prosecute their own objectives.
>>92562285NTA but you have to realize that there are differences between the iconography used in 30k and 40k. No, there’s no single reference chart that defines exactly what is and isn’t used, but you can get a general idea of the aesthetics from what visuals we have. Art (and we are really talking about design choices in art here, as all of this shit is fictionally anyways) very rarely has nice black and white lines and rules from but that doesn’t mean you can’t identify general styles of different artists or periods. If you’re so damn autistic (and I mean actual autistic, not bullshit internet “my personality sucks” autistic) or just plain retarded that you can’t understand that then not might be worth picking up a fundamentals of artistic style textbook (there are even some very good books on sculpting styles) before you shit out your mouth some more.
>>92562497>tl;dr "no, I'm not gonna explain my position"
i finished painting my HH modelsbut now i feel empty inside...
>>92562497you type like a fag and gave no argument other than personal conjecture
>>92544846>>92544846>>92544846Fresh Bread
>>92562591I meant:>>92562588>>92562588>>92562588
>>92562591Bruh
>>92562186Yes, we get it, anon, Jews have always existed in Warhammer 40k.
>>92545756No
