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>>92611385Is this ironically bad woke art?
>>92611429Are you ironically a cocksucking newfag?
>>92611461No, I'm quite serious about my dome game you homophobic wienerkid
Reposting my latest paintint Project from last thread: An urbie lance! (Used the primary colors Red/Blue/Green/Yellow to make it easy to spot the variants at a distance)
>>92611474I'm quite happy with how they turned out! Learned a lot about working with brighter colors.
>>92611474Lookin' sharp! Now, all you have to do is avail yourself of an Imp and paint it black.
>>92611563Oh my goodness.The Power Rangers color scheme was unintentional......but I may take that advice given how close this is Lmao.
>>92611600>AHHH! After ten thousand years I'm free!>Time to conquer Urb!
>>92611600>power rangersThat's a nuking.
>>92611506There were literally dozens of decisions that he droned on about in the middle of shooting rockets at 'mech legs
>>92611467>homophobicFaggot, you need to be 18 to post on this site. Everyone on this site's a faggot. It's synonymous with "person" on here. Lurk moar.
>>92611742I was talking about the blowjob remark you faggot
Just painted up another Atlas, my Lyrans are continuing to expand!
I took an excalibur, titan II, grand titan and grand crusader (GRN-D-02) up against a mad cat mark ii with hags, timberwolf A I think with 2 erppc, JM7D and Marauder II (4L).I took out the mac cat mark II pretty early (side torso exploded) but I lost the grand crusader and the titan II took a ton of fire while the grand titan was mostly untouched. The excalibur managed to finish off the very wounded timberwolf but the fresh jagermech and maruder 2 took it out pretty quickly
>>92611755>Gets btfo by a few er large laser bois
latest off the painting desk a merc on the left and a new falcon on the right
>>92611820I misread that as "large eraser boys" and now I cannot unsee that those steiner mechs do kinda look like those two-purpose erasers we all had in school.
>>92611941Hey, very smooth man, nicely done!
>>92612019thanks im very pleased with how they turned out the hellound II on the right i also have a merc paint scheme for it coming along since in our games i beat them in a batchall we played out last week so we got our pet falcon now
>>92611941SMB Hellhound II?
anyone have good scenario books?
>>92612096>eyup another player at my lgs asked if i could trade him a cgl mercury for a few prints since he didn't like any of the mercury stls he had and i have a nearly a battalion of comguards so i have some spares
Post clan invasion era--is there any reason to run a black knight over a mad cat in my mercenary company, other than lower battle score/money? I really don't get why they make such shitty mechs.
What was the "decision" anyway? that he chose to bang the rich girl over the blonde one?
Sometimes I like to compare my painting progress. Here I have my first painted model, an Atlas, with a model I finished painting today, also an Atlas.Any of you have your first painted model? What does it look like compared to your latest painted model?
>>92612202I believe the decision was for everyone to just ignore the time travelling Marauder 2.
>>92612185>Post clan invasion era--is there any reason to run a black knight over a mad cat in my mercenary companyWhy use a madcat when you can use a vulture?
>>92612279But anon the MAD II would have been out for 12 years when that book takes place.
>>92612126Search the archives for the "instant action" pdf
>>92612185big fucking sword
>>92612335It was out, but wasn't available to anyone but the dragoons till after the fourth succession war ended, 6 years after the book takes place.
>>92612138Honestly, the only Mercury STL i know, while similar to the IWM one, its a bit cartoonish, but i dislike the Shimmyseen one. I should learn to make my own, or convince/commision a new one....
>>92612202>Naming an entire merc company after himself
>>92612185>A Madcat costs 24 million Cbills>Your techs don't even know how Clantech works, so they'll struggle to maintain it.>Where would you even get a Madcat?>Where would you even get spare parts for a Madcat?As a merc your best option when acquiring clan mechs is to sell them. You can buy an entire lance for the salvage price of a Madcat.
So in frontline Wolf Galaxies, you got Battle, Strike and Assault Clusters. Cool.But in the second line galaxies, there's a lot of stuff I don't quite get. What are these "cavalry clusters?" Each second line galaxy seems to have one of them, or a "Grenadiers" cluster.
>>92612249first mini ive ever painted vs the one im pretty much done with on the right
>>92612626Trillian will marry alaric
>>92612279What?
>>92612561I don't know if the wolves' specific cluster types are defined anywhere; for what it's worth, a scorpion grenadier cluster is an assault trinary and three guard trinaries. Maybe one of the campaign books involving the wolves would have that level of detail.
>>92612626Arrange a marriage between a Steiner and a Davion again. Reignite the Federated Commonwealth!
Is the PC game any good?
>>92612774It's allegedly not any better than any of the previous games.
>>92612774Which one?
>>92612774There are half a dozen PC games, which one are you talking about?
>>92612346say if I was looking in the cranston snord mega, what folder would it be under?
>>92612774i like it
>>92612774Mechcommander got like three games, so they probably didn't fuck up too hard.
>>92612774They say that the levels are pretty badly designed and they just spam tanks and choppers at you.
>>92612830I'm fine with the tank and chopper spam, its endless turrets popping up randomly that gets annoying and silly. I get having maybe a turret bank to protect an important installation, but they're just scattered randomly.
So whats the FWLM's identity in Battletech? The Dracs is obvious with its samurai inspiration, the LCAF drowns its enemies in heavy armor, Feds have relativley conventional combined arms with a competent officer corps, and the Cappies usually have high-tech solutions. What makes the Purple Bird stand out in this regard?
>>92612860Fire support
>>92612889Yeah, its decent. Plenty of mods make it closer to the CBT experience.Ai is still dumb as fuck, but what bt game doesnt have that?
>>92612900Direct options, or missile boats for days?
>>92612901which mod gets it closest too the purest form of the succwars?
>>92612889What does that mean?
>>92612860FWLM has always been the "combined arms" faction, because their light mechs tend to suck or be underrepresented, and they had less assault mechs. Feds have never been particularly combined arms outside of a few notable formations. Their schtick was more autocannons, and flexibility, prefering midweight cavalry tactics.Beyond that, the FWLM eventually grew into a role of "long range" faction, due to a love of LRMs and LGRs. Even when they discovered that LGRs on mechs kinda suck, they just started slapping them on tanks instead.
>>92612909Dunno about succ wars specifically, but BT Advanced, Roguetech and the 3062 mods are widely considered the best.
>>926128608 damage main guns and LRMs.
>>92612908Both.
>>92612924which one of the three is most tabletop/lore accurate without adding non canonical units
The Urbie train, performing a lighting raid on Carver V.
>>92612983Roguetech
>>92613008and why
>>92611385Is there a good/succinct tutorial on how to play megamek? Not like install or strategy, but like a tutorial on which buttons to click to get which action? I feel like I 60% of my game time is fighting the UI and not Princess.
>>92612644No way. Alaric wouldn't tie himself down to someone that incompetent. IMHO just wait until she is overthrown and make overtures to the new Archon. Or you know just use violence like a good clanner.
>>92613033Fuck youre a lazy cunt.From the mod description:RogueTech makes HBS’s Battletech as true to TableTop as can reasonably be. Mechs and weapons from the Star League to the Jihad and everything in between are here. Missions are long and the difficulty is intense, and the rewards are there to match. This mod is for-and-by Battletech Purists.
>>92612889It's pretty ok. Play through the campaign once then mod it up. The 3062 one is nice.
>>92612924I like 3062 and disliked roguetech. What is a BT advanced?
>>92613049Have you read the readme? It has a short rundown on playing the game. It, and more detailed documentation, is in the docs folder
>>92612774Which one? Battletech? Never played it.MechWarrior 5? Loads of fun, plenty of mech fighting action and customization in the mechlab (though less customization that MW4). MechWarrior Online? It's a fun game if you play with friends. A lot more newbie friendly, though you can still collect and customize Mechs.MW4:M? AMAZING. Get it.
>>92613095That was a mistake on my part, im thinking of Extended, which opens up the entire IS map. Advanced is 3062
>>92613105>MW4:M? AMAZING. Get it.Also get Vanilla MW:4 and Black Knight. They have their own campaigns.
>>92612889>Turn based one Sounds like BATTLETECH for the PC. It's just a first party tabletop sim.>with the pronounsWhat do you mean by that?
>>92613095The whole mod is called Battletech Advanced 3062, there's that and roguetech that change the game a lot, any other mod is small and/or cosmetic
>>92613127>with the pronouns>What do you mean by that?Probably a culture war tourist who watched a razorfist video and wants to see what the hypes about
So I am playing Btech 3062 and everything's be is going smooth. The do you want to play the campaign option poos up and I say yes. All the contracts I play after that first campaign mission are significantly harder even for the same skull rating. Is this normal?
>>92613134I don't know whether I'm too old or too young, but I understood abour half of the words you just said, and used context for the rest.If I read this right, you suspect Anon is a /pol/ leak? Or a newfag?
>>92613146/pol/
>>92613155Ah, I see then.
Yeah definitely a /pol/ leak
>>92613210As someone who's been into MechWarrior since I was in elementary school...What on Earth do you mean?Like, Sure I'm not intimately glued to Catalyst's/TOPPs' Twitter so maybe I'm missing something, but between MW5, MW Online, and the most recent box sets of Battletech minis that have come out that I purchased... I haven't seen anything remotely political shoved in, or even really alluded to. Heck, the most controversial thing I saw was people getting buttmad at the Box set with 16 Urbanmechs, saying Catalyst needs to stop catering to memes and release "more mechs people actually want".Again, I'm not glued to their news feed so if they recently started saying political stuff I may have missed it, but as far as the games, both table and vidya go? I've seen nothing.Also, if someone DID say something "woke" on Twitter, frankly I wouldn't care, If they keep giving me good novels ans game material I'll keep playing.
>>92613210Spastic autists keep insisting that battletech has gone "woke" but beyond the fact that "woke" is now a meaningless buzzword, they've never been able to point to anything in anything directly in the tabletop game, instead mumbling about fanfiction or the vidja.The actual game and game lore is still as autistic as ever.
>>92611385It has been 12 (twelve) threads since MadCat Clan Fag has refused to answer my BatChall
>>92613049Read the documentation. It's a Java program that's likely from before you were born, you will not be spoon fed.
>>92613210Whoever sais Battletech is going woke sounds like a kid who sounds way too much time on the internet looking for something to be mad about. The boxes still show giant mechs fighting each other, the games still center around giant mechs fighting each other, and the lore is still there. Also, take it from someone who used to kneejerk to "WOKE" stuff in my college days. It's pretty much aways overblown, even if it is real, and fades fast with little to know lasting effects.The game is still about stompy warmachines, so if you still like stompy warmachines, it's fun.
>>92613336*little to noBut it's a fitting typo.
>>92613127for some reason(total mystery) they included gender pronouns as a character creation option. aside from that and a special transexual recruit, I don't think it has anything else like that.
>>92612810Fasa-era scenario books. There are two books, one Succession Wars, one Clan Invasion.>>92612774>>92612889The new BT-branded MechCommander game?It's horribly, horribly optimized and routinely forces you into lance-on-battalion scenarios. With mods it can be taken up to the Jihad.>>92612983The engine is mechanically incompatible with tabletop accurracy, specifically the mechanics of close combat, evasion, and ammunition. Procedural generaion on missions means lore is at best a secondary concern. Roguetech is fairly cruel, some of the other mods less so. I prefer Extended, the devs are actually trying to make something playable. If you really want tabletop and lore accuracy, play MegaMek Against the Bot instead. Be careful about what Princess' balance settings are tweaked to, though. >>92613114seconding this, MW4 is damned solid.
>>92613336*says*spends way too much timeI should stop typing at work, good gracious.
>>92613351Behemoth is just an exiled Clan Elemental, nothing wrong with that
>>92613351Okay...?And?
So what you're saying >>92613351 is I can canonically make a futa mechwarriorNice!
>>92613379>anon asks what he means by that>explain it to himcalm your autism
whats the contentious on Mr Razorfist? our guy or tryhard faggot?
>>92613389You always could. MoC is the magical realm faction.
>>92613401Who?
>>92613401Tryhard grifter and always was.
>>92613401He's the most outspoken about keeping IRL, irrelevant, modern politics out of BT, so opinion on him is going to be very divided.
>>92613401bit of both TBQH. Has he ever posted mechs?
>>92613351>African phenotype portraits can't even pick the pronoun-option "boy"
What mechs would the A-Team pilot? Please limit yourselves to 3025 options.
>>92613401Razorfist figured he had a money train when he tried to protect giant robots against the pronouns, but he's basically early youtube cringe, which doesn't draw a crowd these days.
>>92613401i'd say our guy, since he did essentially uploaded him reading out two books and so you have two BT books as audiobooks on YT.
>>92613467He is a political studies guy so he dos reeee at anything that he thinks is IRL political impacting BT
>>92613468That sounds horrible and cringey. Unless you're mocking us, in which case, carry on.
>>92613379>are you a man or a woman?>are you a man or a woman?>are you a man or a womaaaaan?>continuing football chant on repeat
>>92613468As much as I hate razorfist you're right he has actually contributed too easily accessable media normals can consoom on jewtube
>>92613516>That sounds horrible and cringey.Sounds like a usual BT novel then. I would actually checked that if he keeps his whole badass metalhead act through it.
>>92613504Don't tell him that it's a game that's being sold through a free market system.
>>92613516fans effectively uploading audiobooks for free for the community is horrible and cringe?
>>92613527>A single line highlighting that her lineage is completely different from the clanIs this meant to be the WOKE? Kinda grasping, isn't it?
>>92613516you are cringe.the fuck is wrong with reading a book for folks to listen too online for free about stompy mechs?
>>92613551>it's totally just highlighting her lineage>it's not trying to claim the clans are racist and sexistyou're coping anonat least I hope you are
>>92613551She isn't. The scientists probably have a literal fixed diversity quota for every decanting and her sibko's probably only slightly less diverse than a 90s kid's cartoon - and that only because they pushed the wheelchair kid down some stairs early on.
>>92613551its the focusing on it like some american tard.especially when honestly the majority of BT are imho more mixed than your average american mystery meat, and if they are not, the whole white/black thing is really american retardation. go in africa and you will see that the lines are tribal not racial, go in east europe or asia and again the lines are ethnic not racial. I bet you a hundred usd that a Tadjik will much rather genocide the pastuns and viceversa than discriminate between a white american or a black american. Both americans will get the bullet unless they come with cash, because both are american devils.
Oh BROTHER what is going ON today? Did /pol/ spring a leak?I came here to post 'Mechs, talk about giant stompy robots and petty wars between warring factions, not hear about real world politics or racism.Go back to /pol/ANYWAY, so guys, do you think having a Mixed weapon set on board a 'mech is better, or dedicating the platform to a single weapon type like pic related is better?
>>92613551Its midwits like you that allow this bullshit to fester in the first place
>>92613551Nope, plenty of blacks in the clans. Its more the former-StarWars-reject author not knowing shit about the setting, and that the clans will discriminate you for your caste, not your sex or color skin.Same author have his kids in HRT.
>>92613547She'd get shat on for originally failing to make the cut and having wastes years and years of her potential active duty time on not being a warrior, yes.Like she failed so hard she wasn't even assigned to military police duty, they straight up told her to go be a merchant.
>>92613527Fortunate thing with tabletop games focused on combat is that shit like this could be entirely avoided and you wouldn't even miss anything. BT is not RPG centric like WoD, so woke shit is not shoved down your throat if you yourself don't go looking for it in some shitty novel or on reddit/twitter.It always make me sneer when CGL and their pink hair troon jannies think they have an ounce of power and influence over a niche wargame which is played amongst good friends or trusted acquaintances and oftentimes with 3D printed minis and off brand terrain.
>>92611385AND IT'S YOUTHE SHAPE OF YOUR MECH IS BLUE
>>92613568>>92613597>>92613612Alright, lets say I concede, and even admit that rhis writer blatantly put in a very modern descriptor/line in their book......Is this the thing everyone is freaking out about? Ready a abandon a 40 year game for? Little, tiny things like that?
>>92613336gatekeeping only after the undesirables have stolen the keys to the castle means you've lost before you even started.some of the most important writers are backing the cult, and almost every public place of discussion has been subverted or shut down by those working with CGL.
>>92613612cont.Her isue should not be that Hanzen is lilly white (another absolute americanism) but that she is a warrior and that warrior leadership is retarded for anything not combat related, and crowing on that merchants should bein charge like DS/SF
>>92613623Dedicated platform, because the Longbow is BASED
>>92613623A degree of mixing is good, especially with equipment with major weaknesses, like LRMs. Anything gets within 6 hexes, and the yeoman is having a rough time. You could easily drop one of the ten packs for some medium lasers; you maintain most of your long range fire, and now you aren't entirely dependent on other units for defense. IS pulse laser boats have similar problems, just in the other direction.
>>92613639No one wants to abandon the hobby you dumb ass. We want political hacks to gtfo so that our robot game doesn't become a retarded culture war battle ground for politispergs.
>>92613639>where's the woke?>*point at it*>UHHH WHY EVERYONE IS FREAKING OUT?No one is freaking out, buddy boy. The woke shit is there, that's all there is to it.
>>92613623This is just what these threads are like now
>>92613639I personally wont, but i do not have to buy CGL, and can tell people to not buy CGL anything. Noting has managed to beat FASA anyway, and 4th SW, Clan Invasion eras are still best and most popular eras.I do not need anythig from CGL to keep enjoying BT
>>92613623>ANYWAY, so guys, do you think having a Mixed weapon set on board a 'mech is better, or dedicating the platform to a single weapon type like pic related is betterYes
>>92613623The Yeoman has no reddening values unless you replace the LRMs with giant speakers for psyops reasons.
>>92613551It's not so much "she's black", it's woke because "she's oppressed BECAUSE of her blackness." That shit is out of place in the far future where that shit got solved 1000 years before, and even if it somehow was, we haven't had that be the focus of these stories before.>>92613639You don't quit, Battletech has been around before CGL and hopefully it will after it. It's a hobby powered by the players. You just limit the shit you give to these people and watch who you play with, and tell people that we NEED these things to fuck off.
>>92613639The insertion of insane out of place politics into battletech is not little. Do you understand the people that do this sort of thing do not like battletech?They want to twist battletech to conform to their IRL politics. There is no world in which this benefits the setting.No, the course of action is not to abandon battletech, it is "support battletech, not CGL".But this schism wouldn't have been a thing in the first place if the rights holders just maintained a genuine dedication to battletech, not corrupting it with their politics.You don't see me clamoring for a libertarian crusade to sweep across the inner sphere and destroy the great houses.
>>92613623Mechwarior 5 taught me that a mixed platform is a very good thing. The Centurion they start you with ended up being a Mech I used through the entire game, because it's a solid medium, but also because I had options for engaging at all ranges. LRMs for Long range, AC10 for medium, and M Lasers for up close. It's good to have all three.
>>92613637It must be exhausting always rooting for the anti-hero
>>92613716Redeeming values. God I hate phone posting.
As a palette cleanser,where would you make your own bandit kingdom?How would you do it?What would you do to make it last more than two generations?Bonus round can you do it while being a bad dude for IS/Claners noobs to be heroically fighting against you like you are the recurring Saturday morning cartoon villain?
>>92613654>>92613660>>92613670>>92613687>>92613700>>92613721>>92613726ok
>>92613623Having some specialist mechs can be good. Awesomes and Longbows are generally liked, because they commit to their role totally, and can do huge amounts of damage because of it. But having more generalist mechs with good synergy between weapons are also important to support those specialists.
>>92613731It's too bad your AI lance mates are so horrible at utilizing mixed weapon loadouts.>put a bunch of LRMs on a mech>hm, maybe I should give them a medium laser for defense>they decide that they need to use every weapon in their loadout at once and close range with the enemy assault lance as quickly as possible
>>92613747I wish I had the time to do this question justice.
>>92613639>Its not happening and is a harmful right-wing conspiracy.>Its happening and its good, and it does not affect you bigot ---- You are here>We are making mandatory and part of the setting, we dont need you in the hobby bigot"
>>92613762Fair. I always assumed some AIs are better than others, hence the little stat blocks they get for what weapons they use best.
>>92613721It also shows the absolute hackiness of their writers. Clans already have opression based on their caste system but writers still think they have to jam racial opression there too because it's treandy and easily digestible by brainlets eben thogh it goes against the established egalitarianism (including gender one) within the caste.
>>92613623Personally i like dispersing weapon types among my force, but if i occasionally feel like fielding a dedicated platform it's never more than one per lance.
>>92613639>Little, tiny things like that?Except its not just that numbnuts
>>92613623Well the Urbie variants are (Generally) mixed, so I say mixed!
>>92613747You need a place close enough to places to raid, but far enough not to be easy to make a punitive raid against your bases. Also, the more nations around the better, because you can play one side against the other, and you have more targets to plunder.The zone were the Aurigans and Fron are is perfect, you have 5 factions close enough to raid, populated independant planets, and you can play all side against each other.
>>92613747>whereProbably the southern deep periphery.>howThe easiest way, just stomp their primitive militia with my mercenary lance.>make it lastGoing to have to ape the great houses and create my own little ruling dynasty. Have to convince the nobles, or the closest things to nobles, that siding with the new regime is more beneficial than taking it for themselves. Make sure the peasants are too afraid or too content to revolt.
>>92613747Wow, look at you trying to steer the discussion, Rem!
>>92613747Oh man... I have considered some Deep Periphery shenanigans. Basically, I'd want to run scouting missions for habitable, but far-off worlds, find a good atar system, then Bring as MANY dropships full of industrial equipment as possible. I want enough to help me set up mining/infrastructure, and eventually a factory to domestically produce a handful of very easy to maintain and make Mech chassis, so that, if anyone ever bothers to come after us, they'll find a surprisingly decent Mech force. Not enough to conquer anyone, but enough to where my little dot in space becomes too expensive to take.
>>92613828not that thing. Just honestly thought we could do some tg OC for once.
>>92613639The character is, for the frame of reference of her society, like somebody who adhers to the societal logic of ancient Ur, getting buttmad that the bank won't exchange her home brewed beer for barley.
>>92613639>It's not happening, you're crazy.>It is happening, but who even cares? (You are here)>It's a good thing it's happening and it's going to happen more. No, you can't stop it.
>>92613639>https://uregina.ca/~gingrich/319j2706.htm
>>92613853Yes, you can't prevent CGL from hiring the cheapest writes and the cheapest staff and and under-investing in basic bitch quality control of their novels.
>>92613899Or writters that doesnt know metric....or just editors...
>>92613747Technically not pure bt since i am flirting with the idea of maybe writing a horrible crossover fanfic based on some cyoa i once played and opting for the crossover option to be battletech.Since the first world i would be dropped on would be ASOAIF it would be a bit ass on the technical prospects, but nice and populous and due to the cyoa options i would be technically imortal, in the i can bodyjack my own clones if i get killed, and come back. This way i coup out on how to make it last since unless i would get bored, immortal head of state makes it last for quite a while.On the how, i think i will need to do a trip to new dalas before the jihad to get the data from there so i can probably use the SDS programing from the blueprints to stick in other platforms. Mechs would be industrial mechs mostly because fucking educating feudals be they nobles or peasants to do anything beyond infantry combat is going to be way to much time investment. The combat force would be cheap disposable vtols with said sds systems that can react fast to any intrusion with ludicrous numbers, coupled with sds run artillery and maybe a mech company.As for where, dunno, maybe just beyond the Outworlds Wastes.And for how to be a villain, unifying the planet means that i will need some kind of hybrid system that allows for slavery but also does not depending on area and legal status, and being near the traders domain to make it not a pirate world but a bandit kingdom i would need to expand, mostly via ruthless trade and offering security.growing a bit and being a semi slaver state like the marians would make me by default a bad guy that some would want to fight on principle.
>>92613623I'm fond of the concept of uniform units of versatile vehicles.So a bunch of 5/8/5 omnimechs each with long and short range weapons are probably my ideal core force.
>>92613982now that i think about it maybe flirt with comstar a bit since most of the worlds outside of some would be technically backwards and my robot giants and robot vehicles magic shit de facto, so it is their dream of the inner sphere in miniature, so maybe I could leech some technical expertise from them to design my own shit if i can learn and talk blakism good.
>>92613896I already addressed CGL stupidity and stated that we need not buy anything CGL, and tell others not to buy anything CGL. Drive them to bankruptcy if at all possible and see who else will buy the license after that.
>>92613982aping the Marians seems a good idea, but unfortunately not having germanium to pull off their nigh infinite money bullshit is the issue. all bandit kingdoms want to be the Marian Hegemony. but unfortunately, or fortunately or everyone else they can not.
>>92614146Piracy and 3d printers or buying from a guy that does 3D printing
>>92614035The issue isn't identity politics, it's the character being completely outta whack with the universe and especially with the mental frame of reference of a trueborn clanner. Even a mouthbreathing editor could've noticed that and told the writer to fix that dumb shit he wrote, but CGL don't give a fuck.
>>92614287Is that a question or are you giving me a piece of advise? I don't care if you buy 3D printed stuff or print yourself, good for you, it's an absolutely viable way to interact with the game/hobby. For me the only things worth buying that CGL offers are minis and those neoprene battlemats. And if they continue to provide them for a reasonable price I will continue buying them regardles of them pushing the faggot agenda in some discord or on twitter. Rules and era digests I can allways yoink from the internet for free. But that doesn't mean that I don't want them to keep their polshitter boners in their panties and it doesn't mean I won't scold them everyime they don't either. Thats what most players want, keep that culture war shit out of this game, simple as.
>>92614308You care. The editor dgaf, as long as the paychecks clear. They probably just run with through a spell checker and are fine with it. Maybe they had a good draconic gramarnatzi teacher and they are above automated spellcheccers but beyond that, I do not think editors do anything else. That would imply extra effort.
On a different note, there seem to be a number of concept cars that could be used for proper 80s cockpit designs.
>>92614415This. I like the Catalyst minis but want them to cut the crap and answer for how they treated Blaine Pardoe.
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>>92614532I don't even care about Pardoe or any other author on their team for that matter. BT books are always doodoo. For me the broad stokes presented in era digests are enough.
>>92612918>FWLM has always been the "combined arms" factionAre they? I was under the impression that SuccWars era Cappies did that, seeing as their domestic production at one point literally just vindicators since their factories for thuds, koscheis, and cataphracts had all be captured, and this was before they were retconned to retain some Highlander production. FWLM at least has native production of the Hermes II right?
>>92613033Roguetech is full of bad scripting that'll fuck with the integrity of your save files. Don't get trolled like this my man.
>>92613809Near the Lothian League is also fairly decent, although there's a lot of competition. Between the Taurians and Tortuga is also good, and we know it is because that whole region ends up with a serious pirate problem that's constantly butting up against Filtvelt, Fedsun outback, both Taurians, Cappies, and even Randis.
>>92614682I recall that the Succ War cappies added tanks to mech lances while the FWL used vees where other states would've used mechs - as in they'll send out the Galleons and keep the Hermes in reserve.
>>92614764It's more like spreading the mechs out more. Where other states would have a mech company and a vee lance, the FWL would have four mixed lances. iirc, it wasn't really to save on mechs, but instead to create more flexibility. It's also not universal and might not have lasted much longer than the late succession wars, the FWLM is far from homogenous, and the FWL itself is an industrial powerhouse that's more than capable of making as many mechs as they need in all eras, and then some. The Inner Sphere's response to the clan invasion was backstopped by a bottomless reserve of FWL mechs ready to jump into the meatgrinder.
>>92613224>anon actually believes the Taurian propaganda.
>>92615080Valk you're super transparent with your reddit spacing habits, at leaste change your formatting style if you want to samefag.
>>92615179I'm not even Valk anon.
>>92615249Lmao have some shame posting that picture in the same breath you complain about nazis dominating 50 previous threads you absolute faggot.
>>92614559You and i both know that contractors always get shafted in wrongful termination cases. Almost impossible to prove if they just say "we decided to not renew his contract"
Is it out of the question for Ghost Bear to have an Annihilator? If they'd have one, what era would they have it in?Also should I paint my 2nd Archer as Wolf's Dragoons, some Great House, or Mercs?
>>92615598It shows up on their MUL entry so yeah, perfectly fine. Fluff-wise it'd probably be relegated to garrison or second-line units
>>92615639Stop derailing the thread.
>>92615654All eras, btw, shows up through ilClan Dominion lists too
>>92615654Tangent, but I see more second lime Ghost Bear forces than first line. Probably because people want to field the Kodiak.
>>92615639Deal with your mental illness asap.
>>92615639>Nazi problemDo we really though? Its just one shitter posting dumb shit
>>92615661>tries to gaslight us about there not being a nazi problem.>buried under a mountain of proof.>has no response to the proof so tries to pretend that I went off topic rather than responding to exactly your claim.
>>92615673As they should, Kodiak is a cool looking Mech
>>92615682Anything more than Zero is a problem, do you tolerate a certain number of cockroaches in your kitchen?
>>92615598Every clan has Annihilators.
Valk the... discord person?
>>92615598Everyone has Archers anon. It, along with most of the rest of hte Macross designs are ubiquitous. You can paint it in whatever colors you want.
>>92613726>You don't see me clamoring for a libertarian crusade to sweep across the inner sphere and destroy the great houses.I do.
>>92615755the taurian concordat is almost the exact opposite of a libertarian government
>>92615763Are there any examples of ancapistan in btech?
>>92615823Most minor pirate groups are this. TC fags like to pretend theyre one
>>92615639Look, I'm not fond of the imagery on mechs either, I just hope you treat bottom with an equal amount of revilement and scrutiny.
>>92615697This is 4chin. Edgy bois are part and parcel of the experience. The fact that your overreact to it so wildly means he got what he wanted and will continue. Where as if you had just ignored it, he would have stopped.
>>92615840Why? ba actually plays the game and is surprisingly competent, if his adepticon wins are anything to go by.
>>92615835Any taurianfag is a blatant secondary if they are under the impression that the TC is some libertarian paradise.
>>92615856He was also nice enough to offer to share his bed during Adepticon when MCA had a hotel cancelation.
>>92615856He has also painted irrelevant IRL politcal imagery onto his mechs and he has attempted to derail threads by posting pictures of his body numerous times. He's no different.
>>92615918I'm not trying to make you believe anything. You're free to see a nazi behiund every tree you mentally ill faggot.
>>92615737Wait is Valk also Faith Mcclosky?
>>92615881Yes and we deride him appropriately when he does, as requested
>>92615789Did anyone actually do that though? Got any evidence? Because so far all ive seen is Twitter drama.
>>92615946Yes, in the end, everyone is Valk.
>>92615961Valk has openly bragged about it on his twitter. Its deleted now, but it was out there
>>92614532We never will. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Cope.
>>92615870I still think Carrie Fisher blew up that hotel.
>>92615934Ah yes, so quick to make excuses for someone trying to derail the thread and paint political imagery, as long as they have the right politics. That's what I thought.
A while back anon requested that I post once I received prints from an ebay 3d printer. Here is an LRM carrier comparison (both SMB sculpts). On the left Wholesale 3d on ebay, 4 pack. On the right is Genesis Design Studio from etsy. Scale for both is identical. both required sanding to fit parts together. However, wholesale 3ds part scaling was not as good, and required a lot more work, but did come with the plates to make an SRM,LRM, or MRM turret. Genesis parts scaling is much better, plus he includes magnets and antenna wire for the turrets. Price comparison, 4 from the ebay seller comes to $15.60 including shipping. The Etsy seller is $20.57.
>>92616048These are neat, whos SMB?
>>92616060Yes, it is politics, specifically irrelevant IRL politics.irrelevant IRL politics don't belong here, they don't belong in the official media and they don't belong public battletech spaces. Keep it to yourself and your friends.It's all ok or none of it's ok. I'm of the opinion that none of it's ok.
>>92616091Based.
>>92615714>Valk the... discord person?Who knows anymore; disagree with some anon on the mongolian messaging service and you might have a five-alarm tire fire that starts following you around the internet starting a weird parasocial relationship with you. Shits weird man, but >>92613726 is basically right about the /pol tourists. They're here to spread their politic, not for the game, so we should mock them and move on.MAN I wish I could invent a trolling method as good as HBS Battletech's fuckin gender question, that's made chuds mad for 6 years!>>92613747SHIT That's a good questionI guess the big ask is, what era am I working with and how far can I push the tech? Because if you tell me that the sky is the limit, I'd almost wanna Say going into the Outworlds Wastes to fuck with the birds and look for old star league shit, like the RecGuide writeup for the Charger had; Pirate drones! >>92611600How good would the urbies look megazord style? The Imp hasn't been released yet, so I'm not sure what would be a good megazord "body".
>>92616065Sir Mortimer Bombito, a prolific 3d sculptor who is overrepresented in the Etsy/Ebay 3d print market for vehicles. This is probably because his STLS are entirely original, well laid out for printing, and come with rights to sell prints when you buy the file. Attached are two of his Mech sculpts, on the left, a Spector, in the middle A viking from a different modeler and printer, and on the right a Scarabus. Both the spector and scarabus were printed by wholesale 3d. Note the horrific disparity in scaling. Despite the scarabus being a 30 ton mech, it is wholly out of scale with the viking (90tons), and the spector (35 tons). This carries for more than a couple of wholesales prints, I received some that are perfect, and others that are not usable. They were however very cheap, and after poking the seller with a stick after a month of waiting on shipping he threw in 8 gauss demolishers, 2 mrm demos, and fucking 5 more scimitar hovers.
>>92616130>I wish I could invent a trolling method as good as HBS Battletech's fuckin gender question, that's made chuds mad for 6 years!Try slapping some nazi imagery onto your cheaply printed mechs, guaranteed to permanently mindbreak the local homos.
>>92616161Eh, mechs are not that good. LRM carriers are great though.
>>92615823Fedsuns outback has a couple. I'm pretty sure Butte Hold is basically that when it's not being squatted on by a strongman (although it is often being squatted on by a strongman). The problem with ancapistan is that it's really easy to conquer and there are a lot of petty warlords out there.
>>92616238>I support genocide: the post
>>92616193I agree, he has a talent for vehicles. Heres a Merkava IX and Schreck
>>92616247Ok, those are super good.
>>92616223Ancapistan could either be Novo St. Andrews, the Niops Association, or the New Hedons of Herotitus.>>92616175Nah thats retarded. Slap faci imagrey on anything and you're basically screaming "I'm an unfuckable weirdo who can't talk to women"; good trolling needs to have more than enough public sheen to pass some tests, or is something so innocuous that only a looser would loose their shit over it.
>>92616289Niops is an oligarchy. Not in any way shape or form an libtardian form of govt.
>>92616318>Niops is an oligarchy. Not in any way shape or form an libtardian form of govt.Shit really? I coulda swore Niops allowed you to buy your way to the top because they were so short on resources.That would at least leave the Novo (Whom were Gaelic clans if I recall right) and Herotitus, which is FULL ancap and now apart of the only democracy in battletech, the Fronc Reaches.>>92616344tourists leave
>>92615881>has attempted to derail threads by posting pictures of his body numerous times. He's no different.This actually makes him exponentially worse than the nazi who hasn't done anything even remotely comparable.
>>92616247>>92616048I want those prints. I want them bad.
>>92616140>Your approval is neither wanted nor necessary.>As long as they aren't painting them in a way toLmfao! complete hypocrisy from one sentence to the next.What a faggot.
>>92616384Chancellor, take your medicine.-Captain General
>>92616367I guess I need to read up on these Fronc Reach. Seems kind of based.
>>92616367Herotitus was never ancap, the Hedons have actually been voted out of power by neopuritans in a lot of places on the world.
>>92616409Hey now, the 4th succession war wasn't even really fought over the throne of the first lord, why can janos go off claiming it like that?
>>92616247Nice.
>>92616499"Nazis could be here" he thought, "I've never been on 4chan before. There could be nazis anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE NAZIS" he thought. Small Town Boy reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as alkyl nitrites circulated through his loose sphicter and washed away his (merited) fear of nazis on 4chan. "With a gun, you can go to any convention you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>92616499Based
>>92616588This. It wouldn't have been deleted if it wasn't based. Sounds like we need more based conservative politics posting around here
>>92613547It's extra funny because canonically Clan Jade Falcon has either the first or second strongest merchant caste among the clans and essentially controls the clan financial system (Diamond Sharks, eat your hearts out).So the whole "my clan hates merchants" thing just falls flat.
Another flukey game last night with the guy that cockpit critted my Hunchback on the second turn with a 11+ AC/10 shot a few weeks ago, this time at the FLGS.>first couple of turns awesome and stalker are parked up high in cover getting work done>pixie and spider are jumping around being annoying>ac/10 headshot on the pixie >pull back spider to cover>headshot on the spider>opponent's mechs roll up on awesome swanging and banging>kick his banshee three fucking times from elevation, right arm left arm and right torso>armless awesome finally loses a leg and topplesThe bartender happened to be a serious BT player and kept swinging by to check on the status of the game. He was as astonished as we were at the frequency of head shots. I reminded him that this was part of BT, and also why I drink.
>>92616672>So the whole "my clan hates merchants" thing just falls flat.Idiotic take.Even among the Sharks/Foxes, being a Merchant gets you discriminated against (partially offset if you're a retired Warrior).Since up until now we've seen a lot of Clan Warriors shitting on civilians, and we've seen no Clanners caring about race at all...
>>92616686There wasn't much left of the Awesome to salvage, but a headless Phoenix Hawk and Spider that were otherwise pristine isn't too bad I suppose.>not pictured: stalker withdraws to map edge to keep jumpers off its back>take a few hits, make 20+ damage psr check, fail on a roll of 3>and fail seatbelt check on a roll of 3>and fail consciousness check on a roll of 2>concede the game at that pointI might need to look into switching dice.
>>92616797Good thing he had that shield to block the enemy's PPC fire!RIP Gray Graham
>>92616130>HBS Battletech's fuckin gender question, that's made chuds mad for 6 years!...Okay I have to knowWhat's the question?
>>92616845It lets you pick your character's pronoun at start, with he, she, and they as options.Unsurprisingly this lead to six years of crying
>>92616845Do you want your pilots pronoun to be:>Him>Her>TheyThat's it. That's the whole question.
>>92616862>>92616866Ah, I see.Yeah, wild how something as simple as that can set some people off....Ashamedly, that kinda studd used to set me off pretty bad back in my late teens/early 20s, but I grew out of it eventually.
>>92616928*stuffMan I need to type slower.
>>92616862>devote a small amount of effort to include your out of universe politics in battletechbad>people don't like itgood
>>92616845>>92616862>>92616866There was also a little bit of drama with one of the starting pilots, who was originally named after a trans friend of one of the devs. Note that in the end, the character was not named after this friend, and there's literally nothing in the game about her being trans or anything. Anyone who isn't terminally online would never know about it.
>>92616928Was like what happened with starfield too which was crazy to see, guy just saw the option to choose what others call you and went on a whole rant.
>>92616433>Herotitus was never ancap, the Hedons have actually been voted out of power by neopuritans in a lot of places on the world.That fuckin bullshit, herotitus in every writeup was always meant to be planet of the degens and it should stay that way. There's no fuckin way a Catholic priest doesn't go to that world and doesnt start his own South Park style harem.>>92616928>I grew out of it eventually.Yep, good on you!>>92617018can you stop being relevant somewhere else fagtron? We're trying to discuss battletech
>Catalyst fears giving him stats
We're getting set up for the new Map Campaign. It'll be set on the lostech-rich planet Omen, in the Aurigan reach in 3028. So far we have>House Steiner, Lyran Guards>Comstar Explorer Corps>Wolf's Dragoons>House Marik, 1st Free Worlds Guards(Me)>House Arano, Rampart CompanyExpecting one or two more participants.
>>92617191any good stls?
>>92617198Players will have no access to lostech in their starting forces, but will be able to excavate for it by fighting in the cities. Lorewise, the reason this lostech hasn't been stripped before is that it was for a long time considered irreparable, but the discovery of the Helm Memory Core earlier this year rendered it suddenly possible to fix a lot of what was thought completely broken.Notable: There are no Double Heat Sinks or Gauss Rifles in the stuff you can roll, since those are the things that most warp the introtech environment we're playing in.
>>92617191Honestly, I look at that and think it's a cybrid from Earthsiege.
What is the best way to spend your downtime in the draconis combine?
>>92617246>There are no Double Heat Sinks or Gauss Rifles in the stuff you can roll, since those are the things that most warp the introtech environment we're playing in.Both of those should be retconned out of the setting outright, and the people who use them should be banned. Those are #2 and #3 on the list of top 3 things that permanently ruined Battletech.
>>92617274The arts, mostly. It's considered appropriate for the upper classes, Samurai and above, to pursue artistic endeavors, and even those who don't make art of their own often collect art. Other recreational stuff is around as normal, but the arts are where Kuritans stand out from the other successor states.>>92617287Yeah, here's the full table, 3d6>3: Random mech: Roll on the SLDF Royal RAT, Light, Medium, or Heavy colimn>4: Random mech: Roll on the SLDF Regular Army RAT, any column>5: 2x CASE>6: Large Pulse Laser OR Anti-Missile System>7: 5x Small Pulse Laser OR 2x Medium Pulse Laser>8: 6x Streak SRM 2 OR 2x Artemis IV module with supply of Artemis ammunition>9: Ultra AC5 OR 2x NARC Launcher + Supply of NARC missile ammunition OR Medium Pulse Laser>10: 2x Small Pulse Laser OR OR 2x Streak SRM2>11: Guardian ECM Suite OR Beagle Active Probe OR TAG>12: 3x Medium Pulse Laser>13: ER Large Laser>14: LBX-AC10>15: ER PPC OR Anti-Missile system>16: Null Signature System>17: Choice of mech: Firebee 2E, Icarus II 1S, or Gladiator 4R>18: Choice of Mech: BattleAxe 7K, Ymir BPX-1, Mackie MSK-6S, or Bull Shark BSK-M3Picrel is the force I plan on using, though sadly the Ares mechs won't be present...
>>92617321>Bull Shark BSK-M3Isn't the Bullshark impossible to make in the TT construction rules?What'd you do for its record sheet?
>>92617347The M3 is the legal introtech one that shows up in enemy RATs in HBStech once you've gotten the fancy artillery one.
>>92615598Gauzilla is a modified Ghost Bear Annihilator.
>>92617308>Both of those should be retconned out of the setting outright, and the people who use them should be banned.If it wouldn't break every mech in the game published after like 1990 I might agree with you, but it would. We're well past sunk cost fallacy here and into "the entire ship is made of DHS" territory.
>>92617386>We're well past sunk cost fallacy here and into "the entire ship is made of DHS" territory.Fuck excuses. Burn it all down.
>>92617366gotcha. Thanks.That thing looks weirdly decent. It's nothing amazing, but very decent.
>>92617404It's like one and a half introtech riflemen, plus some LRM5s for some reason. But yeah in the space of introtech 95 tonners, there's not much competition and it does decently.
>>92617401Just everything past 3067.
>>92617401I mean, if you want to stick to 3025 forever, that's fine, but if you want to allow the entire rest of the 34 years of game history to exist, the real problem isn't the existence of double heatsinks, it's how atrociously bad the autocannons are. Give the 7 on the 2s table a 2 instead of a 1 so that ultras aren't garbage, let them unjam like RACs can, drop all autocannon weights down to LAC values but keep the ranges, or alternatively increase their damage like the video games do.Honestly, I was hoping that we'd get a huge rebalancing with the ilClam era and everything just being upgraded to a new standard that allowed to correct the mistakes of the past so that autocannons aren't trash and there's a reason to bring things that aren't LRMs, clan pulse lasers, PPCs and Gauss rifles.
>>92611563“…and I’ll get some head! FORM! Form the…ah, fuck it.”
>>92617411It makes me think of the Stardate Alliance battlemech, where it was supposed to be this updated battlemaster thing that had paired 5s and a 10 or two. I think the LRM 5 are for cooling off slightly as you close in; its definitely a mid-range unit and with a total of 10 SHS saving 2 points can mean a lot.
>>92617366>head ammo>center torso ammo
>>92613670>robot game doesn't become a retarded culture war battle ground for politispergs.Has been since…oh, last June, at least.
>>92617521That, plus I think they wanted it to have SOME indirect fire capability to mimic the feel of the advanced Bull Shark with the Thumper.>>92617544Personally if I got this, I'd yank the LRMs and their ammo for more heat sinks, ammo, and armor.>>92617563In introtech, CT and head are the best spots for ammo because they're fully crit padded and least likely to be critted.
>>92617565Good news is that rainbowmechs are pretty much online-only and the people who are for it never actually play in-person.>rainbow mechs get hard targeted
>>92617571>fully crit paddedFair, but still raises my bpm by a tick
>>92617583Not to worry, I'm a cardiac telemetry tech. Long as you stay below 140 bpm I don't even have to call any nurses about it.>am literally shitposting from my job right now.Have some mechs to keep this on topic.
>>92617603Network tech myself, i get to stare at dashboards all day and call the engineers if something turns red. Great opportunity to listbuild
>>92617624Taking name off as this is no longer relevant to the campaignYeah, pretty similar. I'm also on the easiest station in the department. I already built my list for the Leviathans game I'm playing on Saturday.
>>92617649Nice, does it seem to be picking up steam in your area?
>>92617274>6:00am: early morning tea and breakfast(rice with a raw egg)>7:00am: honor coordinator and ancestors at personal shrine>8:00am: inspection of family mech(important even when not going to war)>9:00am: Travel with lance for meeting.>11:00am: Make way home.>11:30am: Modest lunch prepared by servants/spouse.>1:30pm: Craft of choice(calligraphy, pottery, painting, etc)>5:00pm: Meet up with lance mates and commander, go out to tea hall or karaoke bar. >6:00pm: Dinner with lance mates and commander. >8:00pm: Return home, enjoy time with family.>10:00pm: Pray at shrine one more time before bed.
I think mounting ballistics in the head or center torso is really neat.
>>92617666Little bit, the three people I've demo'd the game for are interested and two more wanted demos in the future. Our store backed the kickstarter as a retailer, so we'll have stuff when it finally delivers.This weekend it'll be a standard size game with the guy I did the first demo with. French vs British. Excited to try out this battleship.
>>92617677Ngl, that actually sounds like a good life
>>92617708The (perhaps poorly thought out)statistics that have been provided indicate that almost everyone in the inner sphere had a pretty good life pre-clan invasion.
>>92617700Thats good, hope it goes well for ya then.
>>92617347Isn't it okay with Clantech?
>>92617729>clanners ruin good things in the ISColor me surprised /s
>>92617736You can make it work if you use the tech the clans worked up for the recapture of Strana Mechty, advanced AC10s or whatever they're called.
>>92615004It's not propaganda if they're right.
>>92617708Necessary to have a simple quiet day when not experiencing the horrors of war. Though time on the drop ship would be similar though without the comfort that family brings, thus why it is important to foster a strong bond with your lance and the crew servicing your mech.
>>92613726>You don't see me clamoring for a libertarian crusade to sweep across the inner sphere and destroy the great houses.Maybe you should.
>>92617757>no cummiesnightmare world
>>92616289>Novo St. AndrewsThey're just really old school Scottish clans. I love and adore them, I play them when I want to go full periphery, even moreso than TC. Still, not exactly Libertarian in the modern sense.
>>92617753Do y'all think there's a version of BattleTech within the BattleTech universe. Like, a historic miniature wargame but with battlemechs that military officers or nerds use to recreate battles of previous wars?
>>92617757I actually want to see the wobbies return, exterminate every clanner and turn half the planets in the inner sphere into balls of irradiated ash.
>>92617775In HBS Tech there's actually an event where you can play tabletop battletech with your pilots if you don't have the simulator pods yet. Plus, the screen for changing your company color scheme shows you painting miniatures. So yes.Also, the Steiners have a tactical planning software called "Megamek"
>>92617198If you're doing Reach how did you have Lyrans before fucking either of the major periphery factions?
>>92617775We have historic wargames about WW2 and the cold war, the peoples of BT must have various wargames about the succession wars, age of war, unification war, amaris civil war, etc.
>>92617789I'm letting the players pick their factions. Nobody seems to want to be Taurians or Canopians/
>>92617775I'd imagine the Lyrans have some form of it. Their version of Kriegsspiel or possibly little wars. I'd imagine there are many societies dedicated to the craft in the same vain as this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGag8Qllgnw
>>92617767If they count, then Astrokaszy would too. It's kind of "what if Dune, but no worms and the Fremen kinda suck", but at certain points on the timeline, it's every durka for himself.
>>92617792>>92617795Even funnier would be the idea that BattleTech is our future, which means everything that's happened now is apart of the BattleTech timeline...including BattleTech. All the minis, all the fiction, all the video games. The ideas were put in people's heads as a result of HPG signals traveling faster than light and causing time paradoxes. There's a vault on Terra guarded by only the highest ranking members of Comstar that's full of minis, books, and video games that seem to accurately predict the future up until 3152.
>>92617795>a game for boys...and for that more intelligent sort of girl that likes boy's games and books
>>92617775It's in the novels. Try reading them.
>>92617825The divergence point between real life and Battletech is The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
>>92617828The tomboy is an archetype as old as time.
>>92617463The HBS game did an okay job making ACs viable by changing the damage:AC/2 now does 5 points of damageAC/5 => 9AC/10 => 12AC/20 remains 20AC/5s now become one of the better weapons in the game, and AC/2s are highly viable for sniping.
>>92617765Relax BA, it's commies, not cummies. >>92617783Same tbqh. My biggest consistent complaint about BT is that there aren't ever any long term consequences for the major factions. IlClan might actually change that, so that's nice, but we'll see. >>92617794Is this in person? If it's online, I would suck your cock to be able to play TC in a campaign.
>>92617833Ok. Which one(s)?
>>92617842It's in person. Also having your dick sucked is overhyped in my experience.
>>92617850Don't insult BA like that!
>>92617849The ones written for Battletech obviously. Pay attention.
>>92617917Ok midwit
>>92617575>Rainbow MechsHey, leave me out of this
mad-3d vs. bl-7-knt; which one is better?
>>92617933I believe anon is, unfortunately, correct. IIRC - and do recall I'm at work and cannot actually check my books - the holographic tabletop game played by Jamie Wolf and Grayson Carlyle in the "Tactics of Duty" novel is actually referred to directly as "BattleTech" at one point. They replace brigade formations with lances of Mechs and effectively re-fight Gettysburg; it's a top-down gameboard with Mechs about 1" tall, so it's fairly clearly intended to be a BattleTech expy.>>92617666>does it seem to be picking up steam in your areaHeyoo!
>>92618070They do different jobs. Look at your range brackets again
is it stupid if i want to field 4 same mechs?
>>92618149No
>>92618127Let's be real, it was inevitable from the moment you hooked me into setting up for the grinder at Adepticon.>>92618149If you use 4 Dragons, Jenners, or Panthers, that brings great glory to the Coordinator
Speaking of bringing honor to the Coordinator, I have a Vulcan and a Firestarter that need a home. Do you think they'd make a good lance with an equally homeless Charger and Hatamoto-Chi?
>>92618127>the holographic tabletop game played by Jamie Wolf and Grayson Carlyle in the "Tactics of Duty" novel is actually referred to directly as "BattleTech"Well I think that's retarded and it doesn't count.
>>92618154>not 4 no-dachis or hatamoto-chis with katanashame on you. seppuku yourself
>>92618197He will never become a true Samurai if we simply hold his hand and give him glory. He has to discover it for himself.>>92618169I would put something faster in than the hatamoto-chi, as it'll slow the unit down. Maybe a Dragon, so it can keep pace with the Charger. Then you've got two speedy boys and two slightly slower but chonky boys.
>>92618169Gross. Vulcan, Firestarter, Javelin, and Stinger. Enjoy your warcrimes.
>>92618212>using mechs for your warcrimes instead of getting out and committing them by hand with a swordDragon: Not Honored
>>92618219May I have the use of your garden to absolve my shame?
>>92618232If you shit in my rose bushes again I'm gonna send you to the Smoke Jaguar front.
Am I crazy or is there any real reason to use a Panther over a Toro? I realize it's totally different factions, but that aside, the fact the panther is fucking 4/6 and 35 tons just makes it really mid IMO.
>>92618249>Am I crazy or is there any real reason to use a Panther over a Toro?The panther is going to be a widely available mech for most era's while the Toro was near extinct until the Jihad.
>>92611941paint those missile tips!
>>92618258I know that, I should clarify, I mean only on the table, in game lore aside. The SRMs are nice, but two LRM5 racks and the Toro being 5/8 seems very good IMO.
>>92618249>>92618282Panther's SRM can be useful in close quarters and load infernos for dealing with Davion civilians, whereas the Toro is fucked if anyone gets right in its face and LRM5s are really only useful for laying smoke anyway. Panther has jump jets, which allows it to play whack-a-mech with its PPC, and on most tables 4/6/4 will come out to roughly the same maneuverability as a 5/8/0. If quirks are in use, Panther has distinctly better quirks. Panther's 13 heat sinks allow it to stay somewhat cooler, whereas the Toro accumulates heat if it fires its PPC and does anything else at all.
is there any way to make a lance centerd around inferno missiles? what mechs would be the best for team bbq?
>>92618310>what mechs would be the best for team bbq?Well not helpful for missile but I feel pic related and a hothammer are needed. Could potentially put infernos on the hothammer.
>>92618310Anything with lots of SRMs. Just keep in mind there's a hard cap, each mech can suffer 15 external heat in one turn, so hitting them with more than 8 infernos does nothing.
>>92618249No, Toros are godtier and you shouldn't use them only because the Davion players will get mad. Use them in pairs and you'll be very happy. I should post my Alternate Toro/Talos History. Eh, maybe tomorrow.
>>92618310The MML Dervish, the MML Crud, Javelin, Avatar A, srm spam catapult, Stalkers, srm viking, srm carriers, plainsmen, pegasus. I mean there's a whole lot of answers for this.
>>92618407Missile variant Pegasus is a special mention since it has 18 SRM tubes (And literally zero other weapons). That's a spicy air hockey puck.
>>92617794>Periphery trash factions are ignored.As it should be.
>>92618407This just gave me an idea, hold on, I need to open MegaMekLab.
>>92618407crusaders throwing inferno/hellfire and burning witches... i mean infidels... i mean the enemies alive sounds ironic and awesome. what should the lance be called i wonder
god, canon sues using phantom mech left and right in a duel like some anime shit is so awful. glad it's gone now
>>92618513Filtered
>>92618407>MML CrudMan, that thing was such a disappointment because the stupid WYSIWIG obsession that they've picked up of late. Instead of doing the sensible thing and putting 2 7s in each arm in place of the 15 racks, they either stick MMLs in the legs, a single 7 in each arm paired with a light PPC (why?), or they swap the arms for 9s and put 5s in the torsos.The Crusader is SUCH AN EASY MECH to upgrade with MMLs, and none of the canon designs do the blindingly obvious way of doing it. >>92618419Since a mech can only suffer a max of 15 heat from external sources(page 159 Total Warfare), the 3rd SRM6 is wasted, as two hitting will average 4 SRMs each, for 8 heat per launcher, enough to hit the max. I suppose you could use the 3rd 6rack to make sure you actually hit your target, but if all 3 actually hit, the 3rd will be wasted.
>>92618149Four Blackjacks! (hookers optional)
I have created my new god. Behold, the Walking SRM Rack, equipped with the best ejection system known to mankind, 4 tons of SRM ammo without CASE!
>>92618565>SRM carrier in mech form.I mean, if you do it as a tank, at least you can ignore the heat.
>>92613982Start writing. Don't just flirt and flake. Might as well have another crap fanfic with OP SI/OC, but this time they are the bad guy and not some one who tries to help davion or steiner or whomever to the Helm memory core
>>92618573You don't understand the point fren. This isn't meant to be practical, or good, it's meant to cause pain and torment to my enemies. It's very existence on the battlefield shall cause them psychic damage. Insanity itself shall be our ally.
>>92618149Not at all. Good thing for a line unit actually as it eases logistics. It is more a limitation of mechs than anything else that those are not common, or 3 mechs of the same type and 1 commander mech as the SL liked to do.At any rate unless you have some ludicrously rich patron you should perhaps look for the cost effective or cheap ones in cbills. This way you can have maybe one more lance as well if you keep to the uniformity theme and further emphasise it.
>>92617775>Do y'all think there's a version of BattleTech within the BattleTech universe.My main game case is stenciled as followsNow there's Black Widows sticker and some assorted military academy flair painted on the back.
why the hell in every single vidya it's the leopard they're using
>>92618752>every single vidyaIt's literally just HBS BT and MW5, and that because they shared the model. Also, only common one-lance dropship available in the succwars
>>92618752It's the most common single lance Mech carrier DropShip. It might be the most common military DropShip in general, I don't remember.
>>92618775also MWO, that's where it started if I recall correctlyand isn't the leopard actually not common at all?
>>92618787Yep. All production facilities lost by the 3rd succession war. Once again, no one knows their history.
>>92618790Got a source on that? Sarna doesn't say anything about it and I'd like to edit the page to be accurate
>>92617463Making the 7 result on the 2 cluster table into a 2 is my most wanted change in all of battletech. The current 2 table is just pure suffering.
>"Now, I don't get what this is all about, but my wife, she loves this stuff, every weekend she's down at the game store with her friends, blowing off arms and rolling those through armor crits, whatever that means. I just like her paint jobs, but how about these ones, what are you working on here?">"Well, it's quite simple, Columbo. Each of these models it's what's called a Mech, a futuristic war machine. This one here is my latest project, I'm quite proud of it, it's called a Grand Dragon.">"A Grand Dragon, huh? Interesting, do you have a pencil?">"Sure, what are you writing down?">"Oh, nothing, I just think it's interesting that you're painting a Grand Dragon, when you told the murder victim you're a Davion player. Davions using a Grand Dragon. Ain't that somethin?">"Y-yes, well, you see I'm painting up some Kuritans, so that I can have an opposing force for my Davions to fight, of course.">"Oh, of course, that makes sense. Well, I'll see you around, sir. Just watch out for those Clanners."
>>92618787It's listed as available in the MUL to the IS general for every era from 2537 onward, even inclan, and no extinction date. Other anon may be thinking of a variant of some sort.
>>92618812>"yeah in last game my guy killed the enemy grand dragon with a headshot, so I fluffed that he looted that dragon and using it against the kuritans as an insult, like davion used cataphract against the liao duing the 4th succ war"
>>92618833>A headshot, you say? But sir, just yesterday morning you told the victim that it had been weeks since you rolled an important headshot. You posted about it, too, right here in your local group's discussion channel. How is that, if you played a game back on Thursday and got a headshot kill then?
What's everyone's favorite hatchet delivery mech? I've only used the hatchetman so far and I'm not tremendously impressed. I really want to like it because it looks fuckin rad, but it just seems too slow for its size.
>>92618911You're correct. The Hatchetman is an AC10 mech that has a hatchet to defend itself from bugs, rather than a real melee mech. If you want a medium hatchet mech, look at the Nightsky, which is half again as fast, hits harder, and has an armament that fits close range work.The Axman is basically a Hunchback that adds a 13 damage hatchet and Jump. If this appeals to you, try it out.The Berserker is the ultimate "big fucking hatchet who gives a shit what else" mech. It's a hundred tons of hatchet, with TSM on some variants, so it will ruin someone's day.
>>92618911Nightsky and Scarabus. The Berserker and Neanderthol also exist but YMMV
Succession Wars seems common, Clan Invasion seems popular, but what about the in-between 3039 sort of tech level?
>>92618942Renaissance tends to be unpopular because it's just "about one third of the toys of the Clan Invasion but not the others"Also because it got time-skipped over instead of being developed in real time. Same reason no one cares about the Republic era.
>>92618752>why the hell in every single vidya it's the leopard they're usingAre you unfamiliar with Mechwarrior 2, 3, 4, the expansion packs for same, motherfucking Crescent Hawk's Inception, and MechCommander? I mean I know you are because most of the thread considers 25-year-olds underageb& but that's as may be.
>>92616161you guys should buy the soarece.......totally not because i commissioned it
>>92618911Hatchie is a prototype testbed and not very good.The Nightsky would be perfect if they could get any decent TSM models. The Berzerker is incredibly funny in the way only something that can deliver a 40-point single hit can ever be. No-one will ever shit their pants harder at a 'Mech than a Lyran Salaryman trying to shove his briefcase down their throat. I love the Scarabus to absolute death, though, it's a fantastic low-risk buttfucking tool and light-hunter. The variants only make its penis harder a better disruption tool and scout. If you're putting swords on the pile too then the Gurkha and Assassin both have some nasty melee variants.
>>92618911Neanderthal. I also like the Buccaneer, but it's more of an ensemble brawler that also happens to have a hatchet because what else is it going to do with those four tons after already straining its heat sinks with lasers and SRMs?
>>92618924>>92618984Thanks guys. Also the Scarabus 9T has TSM but no real way to generate heat, are you just supposed to turn off all the heatsinks on the first turn?
>>92619023yeah, pretty much. There are several other TSM 'Mechs that require the same. Heat-tuning issues are also the reason that I'm not all that pleased with the Nightsky TSM variants, a frigging Ost should not be outperforming a dedicated melee 'Mech out of the box... >>92619014I keep forgetting that ol' Bucky has a hatchet. Despite modding one of my pirate band's CattleMasters with the hatchet from one.
>>92618911Mortis
>>92619050>ol' Bucky has a hatchetI better take that away from him before he cuts the pantry open to get at the treats
>>92618984sounds like you're just not good at melee if you cantpull off TSM with a berserker or fuck shit up with a hatchie
>>92618911TSM Scarabus. Sure, it's pretty fragile, but it's a 12-point hatchet moving at 11/17. It's excellent for suicide backstabbing.It's also just a good scout Mech, hatchet or no, the hatchet giving it the ability to beat up most other scouts. I can't think of any non-Clan Mech with the same speed that can stand up to one.
>>92619090..what? I said none of those things. What I said was the Nightsky's TSM wasn't optimized compared to the Ost, that the Berzerker was fucking terrifying, and that I have an irrational love for the Scarabus. Meanwhile, the Hatchetman is objectively kind of a bad melee 'Mech compared to everything that came after. It can indeed fuck shit up, in theory. It's also slow as fuck -- especially for its weight -- has less armor than a Phoenix hawk, the hatchet can't penetrate a fully-armored head, it loses one of its close-range weapons to even be able to swing the hatchet in the first place. Other than one unique character variant, it doesn't get a halfway-decent upgrade until the 3060s.
>>92619188Pay no attention to Bussylover until he answers NEA's batchall
>>92618790DropShips and JumpShips lists 3 manufacturers in 3025 (Irian Technologies, Bowie Industries, and Federated-Boeing). The only DropShip with more manufacturers in the Union (though several others also have 3 manufacturers).
>>92619188The problem with the Hatchetman is that it's an introtech AC carrier.A 45 tonner with an AC/10 at 4/6 is mediocre but not bad in 3025, but by the time people are actually playing with hatchets it's just horrible.
>>92618752It's very convenient for vidya format. Inherently small so you don't ask why you can't deploy the rest of your mechs, very recognizable silhouette, but also doesn't stand out in the setting so anyone else could also have one and nobody's going to question it.A Union or Trojan would be a better choice overall, Leopards actually suck in a lot of ways once you start looking at the details and have barely any cargo capacity or crew space (and also can't vtol), but vidyas don't look that deep.
>>92619200I never have and never will...all he had to do was come play at my house and i would have been happy to beet him in battletech and your a fag for bringing up anceint drama anyway
>>92619213>45 tonner with an AC/10This is the actual problem with the hatcheman. 45 ton Mechs are shit at the best of times, and saddling it with an AC is aggressively a poor design choice. A Griffin what replaces the PPC with a hatchet and the LRM with 2 SRM4s and some MLs would be the ideal medium introtech hatchet carrier.
>>92619254If you swap the AC10 for a PPC, you free up enough tonnage to upgrade the hatchetman from 4/6/4 to 5/8/5
>>92619261We can call it the Subhatchetman.
>>92619213>>92619261The sad thing is you can make it a much better 'Mech even more minimally by downgrading to an AC/5, throwing a couple MGs into the side torsos, swapping the RA laser into the LA, and spending the other 3.5t on armor. Then it's got secondary anti-VTOL and anti-infantry roles (making it a better cityfighter), is more likely to make it into whackin' range, and does better damage when it gets there. Kind of like a tankier Hermes 2.
>>92612644I doubt it
>>92619188maybe use the hatchie in an urban map. you wouldn't use a WYVERN in the field would you?Nigga i can't read well, i been painting for 16 days.
>92619641>Nigga i can't read well, i been painting for 16 days.These two facts are unrelated, you can't read at the best of times.You're also a coward who dared to refuse NEA's batchall
new thread? new thread>>92619693>>92619693>>92619693
>>92618984or use the hatchie in a jungle or forrest
>>92618911I've got a custom mech I'd envision as a Rasalhague Dominion replacement for the Hatchetman.Note that the XL is a Clan XL.