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camping the airspawn is one of the single most effective things you can do>deny enemy cas>greatly enable your cas>infuriate the enemy and watch a quarter of them just quit and nearly half of them sit in spawn as a spaaggot doing nothing productive>pad your stats (which increases your likelihood of getting in to heaven)
i just peepee poopoo my pants...
Very cool black-screen crash after a game, Gaijin.
I just think it's neat.
catch my vikhr
>>483393174The direct Pershing derivatives are some of the best looking tanks imo
>>483393458They are.
Did they smooth out some of the hills on Campania?
If the Soviets had anti-gravity technology's in their Yaks, why were the earlier models getting BTFO so hard during WW2? Surely, Gaijin wouldn't incorrectly model the flight path of a russoid prop, right?
SaleWhen
Because you're an esl casgroid seething over being hard countered.
>>483395991here>>483395115
>>483395115>why were the earlier models getting BTFO so hard during WW2unironically because the soviet air force had garbage pilots, just read up on how the finns fucking slaughtered them just by knowing basic fighter maneuvres and tactics, soviet pilots were like headless chickens
>>483395991>>483396067I was playing the J26 though? Fucking yakgroids never make a fucking sound until they're already shooting you. Kill yourselves.>>483396281That makes more sense I guess. I still think they perform way better in WT than they did IRL, but that's true with a lot of planes probably.
How come the Zero has a significantly higher rip speed and locks up far less at those speeds than the Yaks?
>>483396608Cause it's an aluminum frame not a wooden frame
>barely used by the USAAF, removed from service at the earliest moment>made of fucking wood>can't survive a landing on anything other than a smooth tarmac runway>mostly used to terror bomb civilians of allied nations>hailed by bongs as a war winning superweapon
>>483396710The Yak-9P is fully metal and it handles exactly like the partially wooden Yak-9U.
>>483390096You don't need A-10C, glutton.
>>483397067>bongs are ludicrously delusional about their own equipmentNot even Indians are this bad.
>>483397081Make a bug report
I am here, once again, to seethe at the XP-50.FUCK THAT FAGGOT PAY TO WIN WHALE PLANE.
>>483397118So what's the next closes Su-25SM3 counterpart?
>>483398807F-16
I got the new f15 but it doesn't feel very fun to play top tier right now.. I was enjoying 10-11.7 more.
>>483398935Which F-16?
>>483399084One in game
>>483399132I disagree, the AV-8B would be closer. and even so it's not like they have a counterpart to the Kh-38.
BOL chaff is extremely strong
>>483397067Sweden is owed a Mosquito
>spend vast amount of time grinding out top tier vehicle>looks sick, plays pretty awesome, well modelled, happy with it>realise the only game modes I can play this thing in are tired and uninspired with boring old maps I've played countless times already which weren't designed for vehicles of this tierYeah I'm thinking I'm done, at least for now. Fox-3's were the tipping point.
>>483399902And two Spitfires
how are people still falling for the top tier meme
I think that people that complain about the notching window being small don't really know how to notch and chaff
>>483397067>t. Herman Goering
When next cv90?I love cv90I demand more cv90
>>483397067>close to twelve years since launch>still no Mosquito B
>>483400602This but Ajax
the japanese interceptor line is pretty fun
Ajax bad cv90 good
>>483401015
Is the BV 238 still a good premium SL grinder?Been years since I last actually needed to SL grind and I have no interest in playing the Moffett because naval gameplay sucks ass.
So you're telling me my J-8 has 6 datalink targets and my J-11 only has 1
>>483402387rememeber pearl harbor cocksucker
>>483402387Yes. J-8 has an Israeli radar where J-11 has a Russian one
>>483402587If they gave the J-8F PL-8Bs it would probably be better than any Su-27 variant in the game so I guess China really is numba wahn
>>483402587what's the israeli name for the Type 1492
>direct hit with missile>critical hit)))>on fire>x player suffered x damage messages for 1 minute>kill assist))))I thought they fixed this nigger ass bullshit with severe damage
>>483403359>critical hityou didn't get a severe damage hit so no kill credit for you
>>483403359I hit a guy with '''severe damage''' only for him to literally never fall out of the sky, make it back to his airfield. and then come back to bomb/ground pound some more. It was of course, an IL-2 )))))))))))))
>>483403327EL/M-2035
>>483403359racism is only allowed on /b/
>>483403359>>483403525when are they tuning severe damage? surely they've noticed by now that almost every plane can enter a death spiral with people only getting hits and crits creditedsame shit with fire completely disabling someone but you only get an assist out of it because a chink chased it into the earth from 5km up there absolutely are times when someone catches a fire that WILL not go out before the plane is dead, so how aren't they coding that to consider it as a kill? this game is atrocious a lot of the times and it takes way too long to get fixed, if ever
KI-109 my beloved...
Why does Gaijin hate every country except Russia?
Best German 3.7 GRB lineup? >Wirbelwind>bf 110 g2?>PumaNow, Pz. 4 H or J? is there any reason to take the H over the J?
>>483407714>is there any reason to take the H over the J?you have it flipped, theres no reason to take the J over the HJ is a late war economy model of the pz 4 that lacks a powered turret, otherwise they are identical
>spain>spain>spain>spainturn the other maps back on please anton
>>483408584>J is a late war economy model of the pz 4 that lacks a powered turret, otherwise they are identicalahhh okay, makes sense. It's just "after" it in the tech tree, for historical reasons i'd assume now, but I thought it would be an upgrade. I see the much slower turret traverse speed on the stat card now.Is the premium t34 any good/worth getting at 4.3? sorry to ask to be spoonfed, I've tried googling but a lot of the info in reddit/forum posts seem pretty old out and outdated.
So, why Namer blow up if shoot its ammo, but bmp2m doesn't
>>483409110you know why ))))))))))))))))
>>483409110cool it with the anti-semitic+russophobic remarks
>>483409110racist(((((((((((
>>483409006>Is the premium t34 any good/worth getting at 4.3?I'd say yes, one of the better armored T-34sget it on sale or when it shows up in the warband shop
hitting some bombergroid with the KI-109 75mm and it's 490g of tnt is fun
new chink combat car dropped
I don't really like youtuber shit but you should spend under a minute and watch this.The absolute state of this fucking game, completly fucked up and just to artificially buff FOX3's that will be nerfed into oblivion when ""fixed""I mean how the fuck can you greenlight a radar looking through terrain and call it a genuine error and bug? Fucking kroks man
>>483409984that was revealed few months ago already, it's just another CM32 prototype
When is the next sale?
>>483410195it did seem familiar
>>483410181just notch and chaff bro, fox-3s and the removal of multipathing are the best things to have happened to ARB in years :)t. sub-0.8 K/D F-14A peenix spammer
>>483409984impressive
>>483410181>>483410547))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>483410760isn't the world at some stupid scale to make things like buildings or foliage way too big? I remember that from the beta days
just killed 2 phoenix spammers with PL-12sfeels good man
>suicide bombing because I'm bored>target dies 27 nanoseconds before I hit him
>>483395115they weren't tho, they performed pretty well esp on low alt, germs never engaged them on low alts>inb hyperinflated german gigaace numberssure
>>483409110that's insanely racist buddy
>>483400183Or they have a shit rwr
>>483410965The buildings are fine, you can join any custom battle on an Air map in a tank and see for yourself. Some trees are fine too, as seen on the left of this screenshot, but a lot are severely oversized for whatever reason. If they're too lazy to alter the tree assets, an easy way out would be to just count trees as ground for multipathing purposes so it works over trees just as it does over flat terrain or water. The pinnacle of laziness though would be to just disable collision with trees but I don't think they're THAT lazy.
>>483411392I'll laugh if they disable collision for SOME trees
>bro just hug the terrain
>>483411950skill issue should've notched and chaffed should've built better planes etc, multipathing is perfectly fine as it is and needs no adjustments whatsoever
>>483411950lol
>>483411950If it was "bro it's easy" -CCTV-CHINGCHANG wouldn't be able to do this. Fucking animals
>>483412171at last i trvly seeme not paypigging for mods is a skill issue
>>483412237that's not even the worst one i saw, really only a matter of time before i see someone go 6 for 6 with them the way they perform nowyou can't even really use multipath to avoid them since the splash damage will kill you anyways
>>483412237burgers truly suffer
>>483412502>you can't even really use multipath to avoid them since the splash damage will kill you anywaysYou can't use multipathing 90% of the time anyway because lol >>483410760
>>483396608Japanese wood folded over 9000 times
someone post the chink forum prophecy
>>483412775
>>483412824how did he predict EVERYTHING so perfectly?
>>483413003ancient chinese wisdom
>>483413003It was the obvious consequence of removing multipathing in an environment with ARHs. With multipathing, stuff would've played out mostly the same as in the last update.
>>483413003Millennia of Feng Shuei cultivation
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1do1nl5/unpopular_opinion_the_challenger_2_is_actually/is he right bros? is muh charly too the best mbt in the game? leopard and strv bros how do we respond?
>>483414041Absolutely on point, only coping huns would disagree.
>>483411179Nah, read up the reports of the early Yak 1s vs late Yak 3 and 9s. Only when Yakovlev cleaned up the airframe and the planes got stronger engines etc they became the feared low alt fighters, before that they were mid
>>483414041>leopard and strv bros how do we respondLeopard 2A7 should be 11.0Strv 122 should be 10.0
>>483415018Why would the Strv go lower than the Leo?
>>483414041He’s right. Don’t forget how the Challenger 2 survived being hit by 70 Kornet ATGMs, meanwhile leopards blow up getting hit by 1950s RPG 7s like in turkey lmao.
>>483415254Short 120mmShit ammoShit gunner thermalsRag folded in front of the commander sight for whatever reason
>>483410760is normal Chernobyl tree ))))
>>483414041best tank in the worldbest tank in the gameall is as it should be
>>483415379>Shit ammoMy dude the Strv's good dart weights 5.6 kilograms and deals APHE tier damage
What the hell is this then?Don't think I ever seen this.
>>483415727>deals APHE tier damageFalse since the introduction of spall liners, all that matters is raw penetration numbers.
commence the jigglin
If challenger so good why can't bongs break 50% global winrate
>>483415778It's a new mechanic, crew healing when not in fight
>>483415778https://warthunder.com/en/news/8953-meet-major-update-seek-destroy-en>Healing wounded crew members!>Crew members will now automatically heal to a degree that doesn’t induce debuffs after a certain amount of time passes after being hurt. There’s a healing icon next to the crew in the damage panel, and a crew member being healed will change color.
>why is a Russian game biased towards Russia Great Britain is an actual threat to Russia, see their threats of nuclear annihilation. Meanwhile the UK sent 50 Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine and non have been lost while Ukrainians also praise it as the most rugged, armored and precise tank in their inventory.
>mig21 dead>mig23 raped>mig29 butchered>su27 mangled>t80s soon to get their acceleration cut to a thirdThere's no Russian bias
>>483411950True BVR experience
>>483416969decommunization of war thunder
>>483416969more like the devs stopped playing russia and are now playing sweden
>>483416969>overperforming ruscancer brought back into line I see no issue here
>>483417672>overperforming ruscancernever happened
>everything *I* have is perfectly accurate and fine>everything *YOU* have is overperforming cancer
my ARH>1 chaffed even though the target is 3km in the airtheir ARH>tracks through a mountain and bypasses multipathingwas i not a good enough customer?
>german p-47d gets no secondary armament at all germany suffers
>>483390259this is why I bring r60m's on my mi24so I can camp the air space and counter strike anyone camping me
ruzzia broz... itz zo over......
>>483399946Yea I've mostly checked out of this update, it's fuckin bad, I've been logging in to get BP progress and occasionally do daily challenges, but that's about it, there's more fun games to play.
do I need to buy premium sub?
>>483419087Nah, you can play without it for fun and research half of the tree. It will just take wee bit longer.Later premium is borderline mandatory.
>Golan heights>Golan heights>Golan heights>Golan heightsThis map can fuck right off
>>483410760The houses are just chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7nY-Rl8b5sTook the words out of my mouth. TL;DW:>matches should be 8v8>everything should get chaff and a couple of their top SARHs/ARHs stock>60 m multipathing should stay BUT trees should count for multipathing or their height should be brought in line to a more reasonable 10-15 m>splash damage should be removed from missiles hitting the ground>other nations should be given proper SPAMRAAM counterparts>ARH carriers should never see non-ARH carriersAnd the sucker punch to all the mutts gloating about their superiority:>would you have liked 60 m multipathing in the R-27ER meta?
>>483419259It is complete shit, they can keep sinai in as it looks kino but all other flat maps can fuck off.
>>483419593>60 m multipathing should stay BUT trees should count for multipathing or their height should be brought in line to a more reasonable 10-15 mI think you vastly underestimate how much work gayjin are willing to do.
>>483419593>And the sucker punch to all the mutts gloating about their superiority:>>would you have liked 60 m multipathing in the R-27ER meta?yes I would have because I also have Russia grinded so I would have just played that instead
>>483419882It can't be that hard to scale down trees.
>>483420104Making them count as the ground is probably a lot easier since you don't need to alter the actual assets in any way.
>>483420185Sounds like it would be quite taxing on CPU to add all those variables for ground level data to the average thirdie chimps laptop. Unless you just had a bunch of trees all neatly at the same height then you could just increase the ground level to that.
>>483420523>Unless you just had a bunch of trees all neatly at the same height then you could just increase the ground level to that.That's what I was thinking of, if you align it to the height of the tallest tree in a given forest. Not the ACTUAL ground level but the ground level that the radars see.Besides, it's just boxes, can't be THAT taxing since only the immediate surroundings are taken into any given calculations.
>>483419593I agree with these bullet points
suicide bombing just isn't satisfying if the bomb isn't mounted on the centerline
>>483419593>would you have liked 60 m multipathing in the R-27ER meta?Americans worship niggers and can only think in the moment. We didn't have 60m multipathing during the AIM-9M meta, so they'd be confused by the question from the start.
>RNLAF skin for Belgian F-16they're just taking the piss now
https://x.com/niporwifi/status/1803721445337334270Vehicles for this feel?
>>483418038You should’ve been playing in ~2018 when Hitlerbolts still had airspawn. It caused the biggest mutt meltdown in war Thunder yet, even bigger than the Abrams screeching.
>>483423404Is Germany playing against the UK?
Join [LowIQ]
>>483423897Nah not yet at least.
>>483416589>80 ton garbage truck with 80mm armor>but iz praized by hohols in that interview to the sun so it must be greatwhy are bongistanis so brainwashed?
>>483420523How does it work in DCS?
>crit a plane>someone else gets the kill>somehow end up with two assists
>>483425189I have no idea but I do know that DCS is a lot more demanding on PC spec than Warthunder.
>>483426993you can blast a grey nametag if it wasn't your kill for an assist, so you probably got the initial assist and the fire you caused killed the pilot while the nametag was greyed out
>>483423964I did but you guys kicked me
i hope there will be some cool cheap skins from the new box because i cant open any of them in my country
for in what for in for?
>>483428667penis car on wheels
>m60 with thermal can see t80u and leo2a4
>>483429138m60 is poopy but at least it's not a t-72
>>483419235are the end game worth money and time?
why is everyone playing Tu-2s
>>483430918top tier is the biggest shitshow of the entire game, and even with premium vehicles/account you're still looking at god knows how many hours before you get your first TT top tier
>>483430918Because it's the most busted CAS vehicle in game>>483430918Depends if you like high tier, but getting an entire lineup (tank(s), light tank, SPAA, fighter, attacker, helicopter) is a lot of grinding.
Am I based for only playing Britain, and not even touching a single other nation?
>>483425143>>80 ton garbage truck with 80mm armorSource? Inb4 war Thunder cyka))))>>but iz praized by hohols in that interview to the sun so it must be greatIt’s the only tank to destroy 11 rusmutt tanks in a peer battle and Ukrainians don’t praise it for no reason while taking rubbish about the mohammedpards
>It’s the only tank to destroy 11 rusmutt tanks in a peer battle
post m
>>483432737
>catastrophically blew up after a single hit right after making it to the front for the first time>seen nowhere near the frontline ever since, most likely ordered to pull back for PR purposes>Leopard 2s, M1s, Bradleys and fucking Marders have to spearhead all offensive/defensive operations>best tank
>>483432218Yes that's based but you need to stop watching tranime.
>>483432218You must grind and spade the syrian Su-22M3 if you want to post Megumin.
>update, players now have two choices for 10.7+ air rb :>play high tier air (normal) >play high tier air (fox-3's disabled)I fixed the game for you gayjin.
>>483433296>Notification of when a reported player was bannedThe only thing I needed was a useless notification.
Piggy piggy piggy Can't you seeYour lack of skill amuses meAnd I just love your shitter waysGet killed once and leave the game
>>483432218its the same as those who use low tier character in fighting game on purpose so they can make an excuse when they lose then humble brag when they win
who knew
>flank enemy team>suddenly all my teammates are on the same flank>going faster in slower airframes>my aim-7m/f decides to go opposite direction in space when there is no radar interference>my missiles all get flared>teammates aim-7c and r3r just ignore all chaff>teammates aim-9Bs pulling 40G maneauvers while also going mach 9why does this happen every match?epecially after a match that went well?did all my luck run out for the semester?
have they add AI bomer/truck for escort yet?
>flankingNot in the spirit of the game pidor, play properly.
>last patch>phoenix shows red diamond when about 3km away even when engine is out>this patch>phoenixes are stealth coated
Remember to not get ass-raped because of "muh realism" reasons and vote against this shit when it comes
>>483432737283 hours in battle
>correct APHE behaviorThey did that once many years ago and lil timmy threw a tantrum.
>>483428027just re-apply and do the thing where you post first and last letter
>>483437173well I dont really play this game anymore I just come here to shitpost
>>483437291rent free
>>483435357the retards will probably make this pass, just like they voted for lower rewards
>bridge module of Albatros/Bussard includes four bedrooms and two toilets
How do crew skills apply, if you have less crew than normally.i.e. radio operator is a thing only during ww2
>>483441760It always takes average
I've spaded and aced the F-15C, I really like it. But I was surpised on how much I loved the AV-8B+ this patch. Honestly, ACM locking targets and slinging AMRAAM's at people, then dropping GBU's on people is amazing fun. I can't wait for the Hornets to arrive, if the AV-8B+ is anything to go by.
it's tied to the radio station module, not a specific crew member
>>483441760Average for Agility and Field Repair. Everything else only applies for the individual crew members the tank has, so skilling vitality for the radio operator is pointless if your tank doesn't have one. Skills of crewmembers that are not present in the vehicle (for example loading without a loader) are taken over by other crewmembers and are still important to level up.
Do elliptical wing surfaces ingame actually make a difference like generating more lift or give better turn rates?
>>483443951Yeah, the shitfires are literal UFOs.
>>483443951Yes, but not because there's an intricate physical simulation behind it.
expectations for next patch?>more fox-3 fuckery>frog copestals>?>??>???
>>483446531scimitar
>>483446531new Abraps, probably the SEPv3 (without any increase in protection lmao)|most likely another Flanker for Russia, probably one with better engines. China might get another top tier shitbox.
>>483446531He 280Me 263
>>483446531More copy+paste
>>483446531lewd decals
>>483446828>probably one with better engines.The only one left that doesn't have thrust vectoring (like the Su-30M2, Su-30SM, Su-30SM2 and Su-35) but does have better engines (and isn't the Su-34) is the SM3 with the AL-31F-M1, but it's literally just the SM with the better engines and 2 more pylons. They wouldn't add such a marginal upgrade as a separate vehicle, what's more likely is that they'll convert the SM into the SM3 like they converted the 9-17 into the 9-19, especially seeing its lackluster performance this update.
join [LowIQ] or else he will appear in your house at 2 am
Don't respond to it.
>483449296Take out the trash jannies.
Behold! Ze mighty Panzer II
>>483448329big if true
>"""""updated""""" sand of sinai again>big hill by the north spawn flattened out for no reason>it's now yet another unga bunga open flat map
>>483448747>They wouldn't add such a marginal upgrade as a separate vehiclehahahaha
>>483451893Literally every top tier addition in the last year and a half has been a massive upgrade, save for the first ARH carriers.>the very first F-16 to the very last (bar the AESA one)>the very first MiG-29 to the very last Fulcrum with a "29" in its name>the very first playable (read: with flares) F-15 to nearly the very last (bar the AESA one)>the very first Su-27 to the very last Flanker with a "27" in its name (soon)
>>483398807A-6E SWIP with AGM-84
>>483452303>either same shit pasta'ed with fox3>or old vehicles getting fox3such different planes, such new airframes, many wowsfucker couldn't bother to model an f18 to add the new missiles
Wann?
We need more rat vehicles
>>483453195Just because they look the same doesn't mean they aren't massive upgrades, specifically F-16A ADF to F-16C and MiG-29 (9-13) to MiG-29SMT (9-19). And it's exactly why the SM3 won't be added as a separate vehicle - it ISN'T a massive upgrade, it's just a pair of pylons and slightly stronger engines, a 15-minute tweak in the files.
>>483449296I'm in and he's still there every night.
you say that then be like>/trop
In for what?
>>483453529Just play a pz3 it has better armor. The one with added on armor. People dont realize theres a super hellcat and a super pershing and an AMX-30 super but the PZ3 super was just never called super.
>>483446531USS Tennessee I cope. I’d even settle for USS California
>>483454857It was called StuG
>MiG-23ML/MF/MLD now loses dogfights to MiG-21MF/MLDthis can't possibly be right
>>483415448Russia and communist China have the best tanks in the game of course, although not in real life obviously.
>>483455389Mig23 managed to be worse than the f104 irl idk what's the problem
>>483455668>source: mutt pilots in the MiG-23S (read: my ass)
>>483455603>adecuate
Don't say the word dick because a bong will come and bite yours!
Ajax.
>>483454857I want wacky testbeds. I want fun low tier premiums. I want the soul to return.
how many petards in the lobby?whare's yours?
>>483456608Su-47, MiG-1.44, Su-37, MiG-29OVT, F-15 ACTIVE, F-16 VISTA, F/A-18 HARV, X-29, YF-23 and BAE EAP in tech trees soon, trust the planTM.
Ajax
>bongs get their hands on a perfectly functional platform and make it so shit the hulls shake themselves apartHow?
>>483395115>>483396379The real matchup was Bf-109E vs I-15 and I-16.
>>483456608W H E N?
>>483456912>bongsNeed I say more?
>>483456608W H E N
>>483456912Every day I thank God that they chose ASCOD over CV90Swedish CV90 FRES when?
>>483457000I'll match you another funny)))))))) KV.
>>483457138Why was Curtis so shit at making aerodynamic planes?
protoshits?????????????
>>483372446it actually way overestimates the F-15's performance, the F-15 absolutely cannot sustain a 12g+ turn at 22 degrees a second at 1,000km/h, that's beyond fantastical. I don't believe for even a second that the Su-27 can either because the claim is just so outrageously absurd.
>>483458028it's actually just that good chudcel zigger, something something 108-0
>>483419593>matches should be 8v8ok>everything should get chaff and a couple of their top SARHs/ARHs stockok>60 m multipathing should stay BUT trees should count for multipathing or their height should be brought in line to a more reasonable 10-15 mok>splash damage should be removed from missiles hitting the groundNo, why the fuck should a hundred or so KG of HE going off directly below you not kill you?>other nations should be given proper SPAMRAAM counterpartsonly if they're real>ARH carriers should never see non-ARH carrierswhy?>would you have liked 60 m multipathing in the R-27ER meta?false equivalence, the R-27ER was and is overperforming compared to AAM-4 and AIM-120 which are both underperforming (the former moreso than the latter)
>483458195You can just feel the cope seeping from this post.
>>483457613they werent. the P40 had excellent high speed handling and could outdive almost everything else except more modern american fighters.It's just a late 30s design is the issue, but for what it was it did really good.W H E N
>>483458275I would like to expand on this by stating that countries that aren't Japan don't matter. Japan shouldn't be balanced, Japan should be overpowered.
When?
>>483423635I have that version, no airspawn though. feels bad.
FUCKING WHEN?
>>483458275>No, why the fuck should a hundred or so KG of HE going off directly below you not kill you?Because it's designed to blow up mid-air, slamming into the ground at Mach 3 won't produce the same results as a controlled proxy fuse explosion specifically engineered to target planes.
>propslop*yawn*
>plane has radar>check cockpit >can't find it
>>483459103which one
>>483458872Maybe for continuous rod warheads, but HE-F is going to spread fragments everywhere either way.
>>483457138Or how about this fucking creature?
where fuck,aton?
>>483459289cold war soviet planes
>>483459697yes, but what radarif it is a rangefinding radar, there is no display for it and it just adjusts the gunsight
>>483456608have this f15c-msip v3.2 with the completely new aim120a-1a-1/a1, it turns 0.27 deg/sec faster and is 0.2 km/h slower than the normal a version. that will be 450k rep, 1.2kk silver, and another 6 months of your life waiting for the patch itself
>>483458028Every single planes performance is overestimated, in real life planes (and pilots) can't go over 10gs even for instantaneous turns, in WT everything from Zeros to Gripens can hold 15gs all day.
oh Anton...
>>483459289its either a rangefinding radar, or in the case of some of the later aircraft (MiG-23 family especially) the soviets opted to stop using cockpit radar screens and instead have this very advanced (for its time) integrated radar display that shows you all your radar modes, selected missiles, ranging, and firing solutions right in the HUD. This was in the mid 60s, back when the Phantom still had nothing but a gun pipper on its HUD.
>>483460976>Soviets did it all on fucking vacuum tubes>mutts couldn't do it period before the crutch that is microelectronicsgrim
>>483461903the vacuum tubes were for a reason.Even after microelectronics, certain high powered soviet radars (such as the Smerch) continued to use vacuum tubes due to their sheer power volume (microelectronics of the time wouldve been fried) and as a safety measure against EMP from a nuclear blastone unintended side effect was how much more powerful than intended these radars ended up being. Export Smerch systems in Syrian and Iraqi MiG-25s were reportedly able to burn through the ECM on Israeli and US F-15Cs with bruteforce raw power alone. The US had to upgrade the ALQ-131 specifically to counter the MiG-25's raw power.
sale when
>top spawn gets anice wide flanking lane>bottom doesnt
thinking about grabbing the f4s on sale, f20 surely not getting a discount since it's too new, and I kinda don't feel like waiting for a f-14/15/16/18 premium
>>483463450sale cancelled, price reductions are put on hold until winrates have sufficiently tanked
>>483463732why f20 when you have f5
>>483461037US pilot attempted the same thing against the bridge of a Japanese aircraft carrier at I believe Midway, though he didn’t quite stick the landing
>>483459510Mutts are the antagonists of the world, nothing new.
>>483464053higher rank on the f20. I think f5s look kinda boring as well.
>>483460976>mig-23>mid 60s
>>483464504but anon the f20 is just an f5 but 2 brs higher
>>4834645241967 first flight for MiG-23, but the RP-23 radar and the HUD display for it was in developement since the early 60s as it was planned for the Ye-8 interceptor (prototype first flown in 1962) that got cancelled in favor of the MiG-23.
>>483464964My understanding has been that it’s generally service date used for these sort of comparisons, which would peg the MiG-23 to early 70s
>>483464709sure, but it's also higher rank and looks less bad because the fuselage doesn't have that weird shrinking after the inlets.looks matter to me, and the f5 series lacks it.
>>483465041>he doesn't know that tanks can drifthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWaG-7xis18
>>483465546ppl devote their whole careers to understand the fall of the soviet state, and we still don't have a precise answer on that. you think you're going to get that answer in this taiwanese cartoon board?
Great, so gayjew has no idea how actual real life physics work.
>>483448329IS THAT A NIPPLE????!@!!?!?!?!?!
>>483464179he flew down the length of the carrier deliberately to avoid anti-aircraft fire and lived to tell the tale; the Japanese mistakenly believed that he had intended to crash his plane
>>483465546Chernobyl
>>483468291>cant boil water>nation dissolves
>>483468291>angry slavic noises about different spelling
>>483467835Might be thinking of a different one. From what I’m reading there was a shot down plane that very narrowly missed the bridge on Akagi but instead hit the ocean with no survivors
If someone is saying that China ground is better than USSR ground, they are probably a coping retard and it's best to ignore them, correct?
>>483468579USSR ground is effectively dead and Gaijin will add a billion prototypes with fantasy performance and irrelevant sidegrades like ERA on the mud flaps to copeChina will grow to be the largest ground and air tech tree in the game
>>483458353>it was so good the US barely put them into service and dropped them as soon as the P-47 and P-51 were available
>>483468579They say so because they're already familiar with most vehicles and their concepts, naturally performing better as they climb up the chinese tree.
>>483468579having played chinese top tier, I don't understand why people think it is so good. their tanks feel very fragile. getting one shot from the front is very common, I don't understand why to ever play them over japan, at least with japan you have a crazy autoloader while getting 1shot by everything you see
>>483469246you and me both nigga i love the Type 90 to bits but Chinese top tier tanks are super disappointing, surely spall liners soon
>>483465041the left can't meme
>>483469135>literally the main USAAF fighter of the 1940-1943 period>used from before the conflict by the AVG to the closing days of it>was still absolutely able to duke it out with other fighters at low altthe only reason the P51 and P47 were favored was high alt performance. The P40 was a great fighter and everyone who had them kept them in service until the very end of the war, retard.
not playing your sloppy pastas chang
noodles too spicy?
ARCHER artillery system when?
further case in point
>>483469909> >literally the main USAAF fighter of the 1940-1943 periodAlso when the airforce was losing bombers and planes like flies hmm > >used from before the conflict by the AVG to the closing days of itBy a handful of people. Even the Soviets dropped it when their own Yaks and Las became good enough for them > >was still absolutely able to duke it out with other fighters at low altLol no, see the African campaign. Again if it was a good plane, why is it dogshit in war Thunder? Hell even the P-39 was better than it > The P40 was a great fighter and everyone who had them kept them in service until the very end of the war, retard.No shit they were giving them out like candy since the US didn’t want them.
>>483469853how are these terrible memes left wing?
>>483470490Why does he have a Portugal stuck to the side of his mouth?
>>483470957they are AI generated
keep running into omniscient, omnipotent teams, consisting almost exclusively of players with less than 1k battles totalfucks going on
>>483471650You’re washed
>>483470426Anton's brother was blown up by one so never
I think gaijin have secretly developed a soft spot for america
>>483455603>chart made by spanish-troonvenger is totally accuarate to the game and not biased.
>>483455603>trannishspergvenger chartkill yourself
What the actual fuck is this zoomer ritalin mess? This is an actual skin from a trophy you can buy on the marketplace and others in battle will see.... I didn't know we were playing valorant now.
>>483468549I remember something like that but it was a torp bomber or some kind of twin engine not fighter like the buffalo
>>483473437One of the Strvs have a cool eagle skin from some eSports team
>>483473437:3
>>483473437it's typical blingbling jigaboo shit made to extract povertyshekels from brown 3rd worlders
>people lawnmow in the F-4C, a plane with better speed, missiles and radar than pretty much everything at its BRwhy
>>483473437>>483473662Twitch drop? Dis shit fire Fr
>>483473437That's cap, this skin is lowkey fire
Cold war ARB is completely unplayable unless you're playing mutts
>>483474067late cold war*early cold war is still fun with toys like the Sea Vixen, MiG-15s, radar Vautour with SARHs, and various other fun early jets.
>top tier ARB is unplayable to anyone but mutts>top tier GRB is unplayable to anyone but slavmuttsQuite the conundrum we find ourselves in.
>>483473579I was just saying another pilot did the same kind of “fuck it I’m taking them with me” sort of thing, don’t think I ever said anything about the plane used
lol
>>483474909>mutts spend the most in ARB>slavmutts spend the most in GRBalmost like capitalism at work
>>483474949but be honest, we all kinda are tank experts in that we know way more than the average person.
>>483474909>>top tier GRB is unplayable to anyone but slavmuttsgermany and swinden saffers they only have the best tank in the game
>>483475552Average person knows nothing, most of us has surface level knowledge.
huhh?
I'm starting to think they're wrecking flight models to maximize profit
>>483476127>$1000 premium tanksThat's Star Citizen, not WT
>>483476252>forgets the market
>>483476412It's a free market, people are selling them.
>>483476469(((people)))
mig23s got fucking nuked why the fuck?they broke the mig23ml by cutting its performance characteristics, taking it from some operating book, only this book was for the mig23ub, because it had the r27f2m-300 engine, but 23ml had r35-300.Speed drops to 500 on turn, literally unplayable
>>483477039>only this book was for the mig23ubHow did the report make it through, the mods are really good at sniffing out bullshit reports
>>483477039>>483477296Devs know better than aircraft manufacturers, cope and seethe
the swines were less gay
>>483448747>but it's literally just the SM with the better engines and 2 more pylons. They wouldn't add such a marginal upgrade as a separate vehicleI don't have faith in your conclusion. Unless maybe they make the SM3 a premium while giving the tech tree one of the thrust vectoring ones.
>>483477693mail order bride industry thriving says a lot more about the west than it does about Russia
This will be the worst thing to happen to this general since avatarfags
uh oh looks like the russpiggy is back for another chimpout
How could russia shoot down its own AWACS? Do they not have Friendly/Foe identification
>slavs chimping out again
Jesus these ai memes are fucking terrible. It’s ok to not have talent or creativity but stop subjecting the rest of us to this slop
>>483477039They just keep butchering the oswald efficiency number on all of the soviet planes.
>483479073>483478925>483478863>483478608>483478439>483478237>483477693>483477424>483476127>483474949This is the most cancer and disgusting shit I've seen in this fucking thread
>>483479249Are you implying hohols have the capability of shooting down airplanes 250kms away from the frontline?
I want reddit and their squadron (WARTG) to leave.
>>483477693>"Putin is playing 5D chess">can't even play checkersDamn
CV90's tracking when?
>>483480816When they install it
>>483481273Well sir every CV90 has UTAAS so every CV90 should have tracking.
>>483481384For only helicopters*
>>483481443Works on aeroplanes too
>>483481561nope
Damnhttps://youtu.be/pGx-N_ansYw
>>483481610Yes
>>483481758Nope, cope swigger
>>483480816I don't really get why you want every CV90 to go up 0.7-1.0 in BR just so you can sometimes hit better if you're a shitter (primarily helicopters at that BR).
>>483481850Yes
>>483482128Not reading your photoshop, give a link
>>483482128>picturesLooks like everything is fine in the game but it could come to 9030FIN for a nice bump to 9.7.
>>483482518https://web.archive.org/web/20140513010912/http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Land/Weapon%20Systems/RWS_UTAAS/UTAAS%20product%20sheet.pdf
>leave the thread for a few minutes>category 5 chimpout ensuesWhy are you all so gay?
>>483483392Now now two retards going at it for a while isn’t quite a cat 5
>""""""""""""""""severely"""""""""""""""" damage enemy>he stays on my teammate, kills him, and simply flies back to base
>>483482719Nice propaganda
>>483485102that's a man
>>483485102Join [LowIQ] to see doge whining on why the thread is talking shit about him again
Sorry, I wouldn't dream of joining a squadron that houses furfags and trannies.
I am a bisexual furfag and I've been in WARTG for years. You will never find me.
Terrible bait, LowIQ faggot.
>>483485602Both squadrons have trannies and furfags in them, Join [W4RTG] instead
>bait
>>483465546System was flawed at the core and collapsed under it's own errors accumulated over time to the surprise of the western countries.
>>483476110Only took you this long to realize that? They've been doing that since 2013
>>483486506Crazy how they tried to rename the mig29 to get rid of its terrible service history
Genuinely didn't expect the MEPHISTO to be this fun.I wasn't a big fan of the AMX-13 HOT but this one is a lot better.Insane mobility, good recovery time before firing, can shotgun all four missiles for close quarters, never had that much fun with an ATGM carrier so far.
>>483478493they could also grindwall some new feature behind the SM3 like Kh-31 or the SAPSAN pod + laser bombs in addition to the engine upgrades and new hardpoints. maybe also new missiles when the time comes (R-74M1, R-77-1, R-27EA/EP)
>>483486985
>>483489024
>>483486506>wall of F-15s protecting samurra>attacked by 40 year old MiG-25 shitbricks>F-15 hit by ancient R-40 missile>US claims it survived and made it back to base, but had to be written off, therefore its not a combat loss>saudi bedouins find F-15 wreckage in desert>US DoD suddenly changes story to say it crashed due to unrelated electrical/mechanical failure, therefore still doesnt count as a loss>1982 IAF F-15A Baz hit by Syrian R-60M from a MiG-21MF>has to disengage and run away due to damage>entire sqaudron of IAF eagles is requesitioned up to cover its retreat>makes it back to base, spends 3 months being repaired; back into service"never defeated in air combat"
>>483485102i need to rape him or her
>>483489394join lowiq
>>483489284>attacked by 40 year old MiG-25shitbricksDon’t be disrespectful now, those ancient MiG 25 shitbricks make up the majority of high speed Russian planes, although they renamed it MiG 31
>>483489596i would but im quiting the game for a while in a few days
Premium mig 25 preorder with "Eagle Slayer" title when?
Not happening.
neat
>>483485602glad they scare off redditors like you, working as intended, wish there were more cunnyseurs around though
god this patch is so fucking awesome
>1st top scoring match in tanksyeah maybe ground mode is alright
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SALE?! I NEED MY FUCKING SALE!!!
>>483492986calm your tits faggothttps://warthunder.com/en/news/8336-shop-summer-sale-in-the-gaijin-store-en> Note! The offer is available to PC users only.lmao
>WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SALE?! I NEED MY FUCKING SALE!!!
>>483493724Will they offer the auTis Ma?
>>483493915Literally me.
>>483412824anyone got the png of this?
>>483494008why would they offer an event vehicle as a pack
>>483432218Sticking with only 1 nation, for however long you've played, and posting Plapumin makes you based.
How good is the premium AMX?
>>483489284it is worth noting that both of the F-15 pilots in the battle of samurra were identified and they are both still alive...>US DoD suddenly changes story to say it crashed due to unrelated electrical/mechanical failure, therefore still doesnt count as a lossalso this never happened, the official record is that no F-15s were lost due to accidents or mechanical failures in desert storm; the US claims that two strike eagles were lost due to enemy action resulting in two fatalities
Am I based for playing these nations?
>>483494562It’s on the top left
>non pen the side turret of a panther>get one shot frontallyah yes just flank :) american 5.0-6.x isnt massively underpowered
kill yourself burgergroid
>>483497515post webm so we can laugh at your failureotherwise it didn't happen
>>483497854Should have won the war.
>>483498284concession accepted
>483498438>no responseSee? See how easy this is?
>>483495807>both of the F-15 pilots in the battle of samurra were identified and they are both still alive...This has nothing to do with whether one of them crashed or not as it would have been trivial to eject if they were already flying away so why even bring it up?
>>483497515post webm so we can laugh, because if you can't pen the side of a panther turret with the US 75mm, yet alone the 76mm, you deserve to be laughed at
remember to kill all spookstonian hueBR muttoid players
any of you guys has the link to the spreadsheet linking all the free decorations and decals from referral links?did they release more anime pillows now?
>>483499209I will 1 tap you with my 76mm and you will seethe.
>>483499538>"I-I-I'LL 1TAP YOU WITH THE 76MM!!!!">bounces off of lolpen tier side armor through infinite incompetenceI don't know how the fuck you can act up after directly pre-BTFOing yourself, what's the matter with you?
>>483498573>trivial>over iraq >during the warThey either would’ve captured him or there’d have been a documented rescue operation, both of which happened with the strike eagle losses
>>483499538no, no you won'tnot according to >>483497515
>>483499857>>483500107That's not me. I'm not so retarded that I fucking can't pen the side of a Panther turret.
>>483500252at least you admit your fellow fanboy is beyond useless
>>483500252COPECOOOOOOOOOOPEMASSIVE FACE SAVING ULTRA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
>>483496178kys faggot
>>483500252you can nonpen the side of a panther turret if you get bullshitted by the volumetric of the track addon armor actually
>>483500252ohohooo no no no broswe didn't think this through!
>>483500638>mfw stained my account by buying the m-51 and never even playing it
>enemy gets the drop on me>shoots my wing off right away>flies full pelt straight into my freefall spiral and kills himselfWhat did he mean by this?
>>483498573So how could the wreckage have been brought to the attention by bedouins if the pilot who ejected had survived?
>>483500996unironically thisI used to call you 'bro'what happened?we used to be good friends.
>>483496647that's the Tu-1
>>483499873The wreckage is in Saudi Arabia>>483501872what?
And now a PSA from our sponsor, RAID: Shadow Legends.
>>483501773He was rping as Hartmann
>>483502781He was RPing as the Me-262 pilot that rammed a B-17 and survived.
>>483502571Then surely there’s a picture of this yes?
>>483502685slightly more accurate
>>483503046Commander shot means the turret is gone and it's pretty much dead.Honestly I don't get why the Panther gets 5 crew members when the hull MG isn't even there.If it'd have 4 then it'd be a OHK.
>>483502571What do you mean what? If the plane was brought down and the pilot ejected and survived, how could the US have learned about the wreckage from random bedouin smugglers and not the pilot that they rescued? The wreck that the bedouins found must be the strike eagle that was brought down with two fatalities.
>just realized I have to play 35 rounds as a sw*groid to finish the battlepass
how the fuck is this fair i was angled and everything
>>483503410not that anon but>send X planes to conflict zone>X-1 returnyou wouldn't know for sure it was a wreckage, but for sure something went wrong with that aircraft. It was either destroyed, captured or deserted.
why do only half of ww2 german tanks get gray camo? every other nation gets pretty much the same unicolor coat of paint up until modern-ish tanks
JU-288 bros...
>>483503732>he doesn't have the 3.7 clubber lineupoof yikes
>>483504193because halfway through the war they swapped to the familiar khaki which was better on the Russian steppe and in the North African desert, as well as being better able to be modified into effective multitone camouflages. The gray is also supposed to be a blueish black but Gaijin refuses to fix it for one retard excuse or another, the most prominent one in my memory being "it would lower their profile too much" to use the historical color.
>>483503883you see youre fighting a russian tank
>Finding a spot where your camo blends in almost perfect>Sit in the open>Nobody shoots you and you never get strafedIt's like magic, I don't get it.
>>483505050alright well then why do SOME tanks that don't have it as default, have the option to buy it for GEand then the rest of them dont?
>>483505206for a handful of vehicles like the preproduction Tigers getting painted in panzer/dunkelgrau and Gaijin being pure )))))))
>>483505538I fucking hate Gaijin's nonsense.
>>483503732I used the new tank, the fucking david plane, and the SAV at 3.7 that I got all from doing something special
>>483505823>the new tankthat battle pass 6.7 swedish Panther II
>>483505964tiger 2*
when the fuck are they going to end the uncontested 3 years of US handholding at top tier air?>but that's how it is irlI do not give a fuck it's a game it's supposed to be balanced
cunny will never die
>>483506014>when are they gonna fix the nation with the loudest vocal majority of paypigs and autismosis this nigger 4real?
>>483506003yeah, that thing lol
>>483506014Euro 4.5gens will be added at a time that allows them to dominate followed by the US and probably China dominating forever since anything that increases the amount of )))) that can happen is always wildly powerful and stealth will be one of those things
Does anyone know if friendly planes get RWR warnings in the event that a friendly ARH accidentally pitbulls onto them?
Since when is the Puma 3.7?
>>483505624what? you don't like having camouflages withheld for GE sale only at the same time as the camouflages are explicitly and completely wrong for every vehicle they're applied to except one or two community market skins that apply the correct colors?
>>483506014Should I grind USA (need to grind all of their humungous ranks VI, VII, and VIII), Germany (only need a few more rank VII to unlock VIII), or Italy (am partly through rank VI)
>>483507285It was deeply racist towards new payers... I mean players.Please ignore the M4A3 105.
>>483507531>seal clubber sherman is only 3.0holy kekkers
>try out enfisted>gacha mechanics>gacha mechanics>gacha mechanics>KMMO levels of menu bloatIncredible how Gaijin managed to make War Thunder look good in comparison.
>>483507604.50 cal?
>>483507604Wasn't it 2.3-2.7 until pretty recently?
>>483508031it got moved to 3.0 alongside the puma not too long ago
>>483507604>sdkfz 234/1 and sdkfz 234/3 are BR 2.0Who else is an old guard seal clubber?
>>483508213flakpuma is something i regret missing out onchode puma is just trash though
>>483503883>>483505127>be russoid tank>get shot in track>almost always eat the full shellmeanwhile>be any other nation>get shot through tracks>only 2, maybe 3/10 times does the track fully eat the shell)))))))))))))))))
>>483508328>short 75 is trashBro? How the fuck can you come to that conclusion? Especially at 2.0 on a gokart?
>>483508887the french car with the chode is way more fun because it's not stuck facing forward
>>483508213>>483508328>tfw missed these but made sure to get the pakpumaeven after being hyper uptiered to 4.7 it still rapes, worth it
>>483507442you should go back
>>483509094>hyper uptiered to 4.7>fucking PZIV gun on a Puma chasis at 4.7 is 'hyper uptier'Huh?
>>483509094I took a hiatus specifically around the times of the two events you could get the PakPuma.But I got the PakHanomag
>>483509203it started at 2.3 or something similarly criminal, it was just WRONG and felt so right
>>483509094it belongs at 6.3 since it's a better M18
>>483509372>open top with a gun fixed facing forwardsdon't you have the same thing at 4.3
>>483509349>it started at 2.3The fucking pakpuma was that low before?
>>483509513I don't think so but it was 3 point something. It was always a higher BR than the regular puma.
>>483509513it wasnt that low but it was criminally low, yeah
>>483509608>>483509647It's crazy to me that the normal Puma was 2.7 for so long. That's the same BR as the fucking Italian AB 43, and was lower BR than the 6pdr SARC.
>>483503883how bad can you be
>>483509816now just hold on, the AB 43 is an absolute beast if you know how to play itit's even moreso now that the puma got bumped up
>>483509886The AB 43 is good, but it's not and never was Puma tier good.
>>483510021it's extremely good AND fun, it's just the puma was excellent
>>483509816When it came out, gaijin's code for wheeled vehicles was kind of ass and it was squirrely as hell to drive. That held it back a bit at first.
>>483510431Gaijin still doesn't have wheeled vehicles down today, can't imagine how bad it use to be.
>>483510567>touch steering>spin out of controlPuma was especially bad because of the all-wheel steering.
>>483510567i'm fully convinced they didn't even touch anything regarding the R3s besides giving them a top speed
>>483510567>Grinded all of Italy last year from start to finish>Freccia came out>Got Freccia>Spaded it from stock playing nothing but it because spike meme was new and I got a LOT of spike kills because people didn't know what the fuck they were>Around that time Gaijin fucked with wheeled vehicle traction>To this day, the freccia feels like absolute garbage because I had already played hundreds of battles in it before they fucked up wheeled vehicles>Now I hate playing it even though it's undeniably fine, just feels like trashWheeled vehicles will be outsped by russian MBT unless you're going downhill in a straight line it's crazy. They over value top speed and undervalue acceleration and steering when they consider things because people miss one shot and go WAHHHH IT WAS GOING 20% FASTER THAN MY OWN TOP SPEED THAT IS SO OVERPOWERED
>>483511105>EBR slows down to a crawl if either rubber wheel or steel wheel gets disabled>even though it's LITERALLY designed to circumvent thisstill mad
>>483510675>>483510729>>483511105>>483511250The fucking Ratels feel awful to drive too.
>>483511105>I got a LOT of spike killsfalse and homosexual
>>483511414goodget fucked bong trash
>>483511451Talking a lot of shit for a ww2 heavy in ATGM range bucko.
>>483511612swing and a miss
>tip of the barrel gets blown off>gun breech is completely unscathed>repair barrel>HAVE TO RELOAD THE ENTIRE SHELL AGAINyeahlike, why the fucki thought they fixed that bug alreadylike 3 times already
bore obstruction is a thing, retardyou're not checking shit with a shell loaded
>very tippy tip of the barrel gets bent>NOOOO NOOO YOU CANNOT SHOOT YOU HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE AND REASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE TANK AND RELOAD FIRSTyou shouldn't try to sound smart, it's not your forte
fortnite
if you prefer a 10 work day crewlock and manhour adjusted sl bleed due to the vehicle being sent back to the shop, that's on you
Battle Pass Fjord Defender starts soon - 30 pts
>>483513575no sl bleed because repair is taxpayer funded
I FUCKING HATE SWINGFIRES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Which is better, AIM-120A or AAM-4?120A can pull a few more Gs (35 vs 32)But AAM-4 has 20 seconds more guidance time and more explosive.
>>483516078AIM-120 continues the trend of american bias and blows all of the other Fox-3's out of the water and it isn't even close.
>seconds away from losing the match>get hit by bluenigger spaaggot>j out 19 milliseconds before the round ends
>>483516183and it's underperforming (no smokeless motor)
i4w?
>>483518095uptier is going to be roughonly 60 countermeasures and 2 AIM-7FI had to resort to base rocketing after the recent patch to grind towards the F-15J(M)
>>483518095Fantasyshit
>>483518292I heard that 12.0 usually gets downtiers now tho. I already have the F-15J and that thing is rough right now.
>>483519789I've been playing the F-16AJ for the past few days, you'll get uptiered to see 13.0 AMRAAM flingers over half the games you play. At least that's my experience with it.Before the patch the AJ was the king, now it's either you're still a god in downtiers or you might as well roll over and die in uptiers.
>>483518095air past something like 6.3 is basically unplayable so probably nothing great.
Things should be only realistic when it suits me.
>>483520042Kinda funny how they add one fucking weapon system to already existing aircraft and it completely ruins top tier.Crazy that the F-16A variants don't even get AIM-9Ls stock, just 2 AIM-9Ps. I cant get a single kill, how am I supposed to get RP stock?
>>483521045You can still play assault air (for now)
>>483522128Yeah but that is full of non-stock players with full missile loadouts making it impossible to get a single kill with my two rear-aspect only missiles and 500 cannon rounds.Also its AT LEAST 10 minutes of queue time. May as well shoot at AI in real RB games.We need another chimpout to make Gaijin make the stock grind at top tier easier. This shit is impossible. AT LEAST all aspects by default at 11.0+, preferably at least two radar-homing too.
>su-100 still rips shitThis little nigga has carried me so far, one of the oldest and best talismans I've got
>>483522690I don't think it's that bad, I played a few games yesterday and the day before with the F104A. Had no problem getting kills, came in first 3/4 games. 30+ air kills with just the cannon. Lots of assists. It's arcade, don't think so hard. Charge head on, you're fast.
>>4835230523.7 to 6.0 is such a fun range compared to topslop
>>483523272And btw, head on 100% for air assault. That's the one direction the AI won't fire. You'll be on top of the whole group if you get there first. Cannons rip everything to shreds.
>ruin mig-23s flight model>make MTI half broken>fucking flares don't even make a sound anymore when deploying What was Gaijin thinking
this patch is just another Red Skies, isn't it? bless you Anton, what a wonderful patch.
>>483524602the MTI was actually just made to work as it’s supposed to, instead of massively overperforming
>>483525081So you agree the mig-23 should go to 11.0 then?
>>483524602>What was Gaijin thinkingpush update out as soon as possible must stick to update cycle or hype diewe can fix it later
>>483525164mig-23 is already 11.0?
>>483525518the good one
>>483525606why would you want to uptier the mig-23bn from 9.7 to 11.0??
>>483494363And the post in question for good measure.https://forum.warthunder.com/t/the-multipath-problem/116271/9
>>483412824>>483526207literally nobody is playing like this except for THOSE tomcats
Why haven't they added cluster bombs yet? Literally the main tool for killing tanks for every strike aircraft 1950-2000
>>483527630think of the poor servers racist pidaras ((((
>>483527630>Literally the main tool for killing tanks for every strike aircraftThere comes a point where Tanks would cease to exist.
>>483527580Plenty of spamram players are playing like that too. There's always at least 3-4 that fly high, blow their load, and then rtb
>>483527630does rassia have cluster bomb? no? then not needed/not work/useless in game
>>483528097they do actually, they were the first to use them. Something like 10,000,000 PTABs were dropped in WW2
>>483528097Retard, not only do they have them but they get them WAY before everyone else with PTABs.
>>483528298>>483528310this of course means the simultaneous implementation of contemporary Abwurfbehälter for which there was a 91mm 4kg charged HEAT submunition, droppable in clamshelled clusters of 40 from a 250kg bomb shackle, right?
>>483488331It might get HOT-3s and go up in br so it can be used in top tier
>>483529617No, neither will ever be added because they're the only two of their kind in WWII and gayjin don't like adding brand-new weapon system to only a few nations, let alone permanently leaving everyone else empty-handed.
>>483529617yeah I'd love that, this isn't a "gotcha" I want them for all nations
>>483530030>I want them for all nationsThat's the problem and the official stated reason they still haven't added PTABs: no one other than the Soviets and germutts made them before the war was over.
>>483530172the burgers did copy and deploy the butterfly mine
>>483530594That still only makes 3 nations out of 10.
>>483530726but the other seven are irrelevant semen slurpers or outright subhumans so fuck em
jewdintsev
>>483530172>That's the problem and the official stated reason they still haven't added PTABs: no one other than the Soviets and germutts made them before the war was over.the Fritz-X and the Japanese AShM are the only two of their type around WW2 BRs so clearly Gaijin dgaf
>>483531275Those are extremely limited in capability/quantity and virtually inconsequential overall. PTABs would instantly become by far the deadliest ground attack weaponry before standoff munitions while being absolutely ubiquitous.
>get constant uptier at 7.7 br>be forced to play air to get some CAS>get stuck on rank IV Air RB>Quit the game
>>483530726Italians had the AR-4 thermos bomb, a 3.68 kilogram 2.75 inch bomb with .67kgs of explosives, basically equivalent to the existing SD10C and its .75kg of TNT, plus smaller bomblets apparently. Useful for flak suppression if nothing else.
>>483531447>Those are extremely limited in capability/quantity and virtually inconsequential overall.VB-13 when?
>>483531275Think they could add a fair number to US/UK but they don’t >>483531447In naval the Fritz at least is pretty damn scary
>>483530726add japs to the list of potential PTAB havers, they dropped kraut HEAT rifle grenade clones converted into bombletshttps://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-japanese-wwii-type-2-1-3-kg-heat-cluster-bomb-sub-munition-inert?variant=29443291447365https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_World_War_II_army_bombs#Cluster_bomb>Type 2⅓ kg cluster bomb>Type 3½ kg cluster bomb>Type 2½ kg cluster bomb>Container for Type 2⅓ kg cluster bombs>Container for 76 Type 2⅓ kg cluster bombs>Container for 63 Type 3½ kg cluster bombs
TTU (Total Tomcat Up-BR) when
>>483535493They; add AIM-9L to the -14A, Fix TCS, add JDAM, Fix AIM-54C
Where are the rest of the Strv m/42s? There's one with electromagnetic gearbox and another one with a weird hydropneumatic suspension I'd like to have
>>483535578Yeah sure give it lasers for all I care just get it out of here
>>483536169>electromagnetic gearbox and another one with a weird hydropneumatic suspensionwhat would these do in WT if anything
>>483536318accelerate marginally faster (or not) and be a pointless gimmick
>>483536318One would have a quick reverse speed and the other can flatten itselfWould be fun even if they turned to be useless
>4 ammo boxes modeled as singular one>still have to reload>stuck forever with big ass ammorack until you run out of ammo
>>483537120proofs that boxes are not interlinked?
>>483536169>indigenous swedish vehiclesNot anytime soon, not even the weird Finnish modifications like that Zsu57 that had HEVT and a shitty radar
hello when
ayyy habibi check out my muhhamad 2
>>483537120>XM800T — location and appearance of the ammo has been fixed. All racks except the one connected to the gun have been removed, and the shape of the main ammo rack has been changed.
Ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunu 90Nuke Helsinki
>>483518095>12.0Just play the EJ Kai until you get the second F-15J
>>483538924ngl this looks great from a technical standpoint, I didn't know you could even retexture meshes meant for foliage to look so convincingly like carpets and tarps and stuff
>>483540567Natogrood most advanced spaa
>>483540743Love that thing but I want to play something new. Will probably use the F-15J to get the J(M) because of the bonus modifier and leave the AJ for when the F-2 comes out. F-15J has got a lot of downtiers and doesn't struggle nearly as much in uptiers as the AJ and I have it almost spaded anyway.
I stayed up untill 5am playing this faggot ass gameAt least i got 2 game were i made 14k+ rp
>>483538012>Finnish modifications like that Zsu57 that had HEVT and a shitty radaras far as I can tell that never got past planning stage due to cost estimations
one week since the patch flopped>winners?>losers?>disappointments?>pleasant surprises?
when is the summer sale what the fuck
>>483542249Last time it began on the 27th.
>>483542236>winners?HATO>losers?pidaroyshian niggers in this thread who were insisting the R-77 would be way better than the AMRAAM because topwar.ru said so
>who were insisting the R-77 would be way better than the AMRAAMLiterally no one ever said this pablo shartinez.
>>483542869I literally had an argument with you about it, but once again we’re onto the ox cart of shit
>>483542713Yeah but was it really necessary to gimp BOTH flight model and missiles to give natomutts an unfair ahistorical advantage?
i really wish the mutt ground tree didnt suck
Are Mirage players still undergoing divine punishment for having micas on their pre update plane and not getting all of their flares?
>>483542236>WinnersAnything with a good FM and AIM-120sFrench top tier (Best F-16 and Mirage 2000 FM buff)>Kept upAnyone with a Gripen>LosersUSSR and China>MegalosersGermany
>>483542942The FM is a leftover from the "R-27ER meta", aka mutts not knowing what multipathing is and pissing and shidding their pants about it despite holding every other advantage conceivable until Soviet FMs were gimped to appease them.
>>483542869you said it yourself, misha pidarasberg
>>483542959It's not bad it's just boring. I'd rather play something like Britain which is considered bad but has a lot of unique vehicles.
>>483543086It's truly sad they still whine about ussr bias after all these gimps
>>483542236>winnersGayjin>losersThe playerbase
>>483543162It's not even sad, it's just fucking pathetic. Now that their crying got them to the point where they're the best at everything and Soviet jets are an endangered species at top tier with literally no strong suites, they're not even bothering to hide what their true intentions were all along: to be better than everyone and gloat about it.
NOBODY SAID THE R-77 WOULD BE BETTER BLYAAAAAAT
>>483542959Kinda the downside of the no.1 priority always being “is easily shipped places” unfortunately
>>483543315you were gloating that the Su-27 would easily dominate the game till the F-22 and now you’re sooking like a baby bitch ahahahahaha>>483543124
>it's the "everyone I don't like is the same person" episode again
>>483542942ahistorical?
why did rusgluts insist the R-77 would be so amazing?>>483543520misha, we know your posting style, you can’t stop yourself from using the word fag 3x a sentence
>>483543124That's what happens when you trust gaijews to implement realistic flight models and missiles instead of giganerfed bullshit cause mutt whales whined
>>483543124who knew the fag- poster was a colossal retardcouldn't have seen that one coming
>Literally no one ever said this pablo shartinez.why would you post something so easily and verifiably false?
>>483543785This was quite literally the case on the dev server, then by the live server >>483543608 happened, just as it did out of nowhere to the FMs several months prior, except you'd think that they'd at least keep the missiles usable if they were to keep the FMs gimped.
I love posting rusgluts being wrong, especially now that they’re the one’s absolutely shitting their pants when they were smug as fuck before
>>483542998yesI'm only getting 50 flares in my 5F
based receiptposter desu
>>483543785>>483543998Why are they always lying?
>>483543958I warned you the R-77 would suck and you just wouldn’t listen, I consistently have to educate you misha, like when I had to educate you on the MiG-29SMT fuel loading
>>483544086lying becomes as natural as breathing when you live in the land of lies
>i warned you!>*Spends days whining on forum for soviet nerfs*
>>483544086Russians are literally incapable of admitting they were wrong, if they do they melt like in raiders of the lost ark
>not anticipating the R-77 nerf on already dogshit airframes and the removal of multipathing and going off the information available at the time makes you a liar
>suffering through sw*denya to rank 3>get b18a>bombs drop like half a second after I press the keyis this some bullshit with a completely untrained crew that I haven't had to experience in years, or is the b18a just niggerlicious?
>>483544969i think it's a b18a thingsome bombers require you to be level to release bombs but b18a just has those retarded bomb hooks that are delayed like on stuka
the misha pidaras patch cycle:>new russian wunderwaffe gets confirmed>brag for weeks about how it's going to be hecking unstoppable, talk about how "the mutts" are going to be "seething so hard">patch releases>turns out the russian shit isn't an unstoppable wunderwaffe like misha was promising>cry, shit your pants, seethe about how it's been "artificially nerfed", seethe that those dastardly mutts on the forum are oppressing you>repeat for next wunderwaffe it's literally every single time
french rat when?
>>483544297no one said that just like no one said the R-77 would dominate the patchno one has said anything everyone understands everything
>>483540892Still waiting https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yUohrEMuQLnahttps://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/LbD7XSmoaAJc
https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1630>https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1630https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1630>https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1630>On the following locations, the height of some unnaturally high trees has been fixed: Guiana Highlands, Vietnam Hills, Mysterious Valley and Rice Terraces.No it fucking wasn't.
>>483544297you said nobody said the R-77 would be better than the AIM-120, we now know that was a lie because you yourself said it
Gaijin should nerf the F8 crusaders because it assrapes everything else so hard its now boring
>>483545240>development discontinued almost ten years agocrab is kill
>>483545337There are trees that tall.
where the FUCK is the sale anton
>>483546789Doesn't mean they should be in the game, their inclusion isn't strictly necessary for realism but makes gameplay worse.
does high tier italy ground ever get fun or is it all a shit after the silly low tier vehicles
>>483548201It gets fun when you close the game.
>>483548517damn...
>>483548517That applies to all nations
>>483545502Ok, bad wording on my part, should've worded it differently from the start: "literally no one said the R-77 would be better than the AIM-120 in the current multipathless meta". That much IS true as all of your examples (only two of which are mine and all of which are now void because the context that led to them being made was flipped on its head) are dated to when multipathing WOULD, in fact, have made even the current-state nerfed R-77 better as range and energy retention mattered a lot less than raw maneuverability and instantaneous pull in an environment that featured nothing but furballs and sub-10 km range engagements.>inb4 "cope" and no arguments
>have a really good game>next few games radar fails to pick up clear targets, missiles do random turns and don't kill enemies on a hit, if they ever hitthis is so fucking rigged
>>483550440you literally tried claiming the R-77 was going to have more range, copeit’s pathetic how you browbeat “mutts” and gloat about how they’re going to cry when you get to stomp them but then immediately turn around and shit your pants when you don’t get your way
Where BAMSE?
this slave chimpout is going to last forever isn't it
>>483551332>BrosephStallingnow that's a faggot i haven't seen for a while
>>483550719>you literally tried claiming the R-77 was going to have more rangeWhere? >>483543124, >>483543325 and >>483543597 only state they would be "better overall" (explained above), >>483543785 states they would "have the same range" (they did during the ARH test) and >>483543998 only mentions the "better pull", which still holds true.
>>483551762don't make me pull up the archives again misha pidaras
>>483460976>>483460030>rangefinding radar do they do anything other than tell you how far the enemy is?
I hurt the feelings of the Chinese People :((
>>483552470They don't even do that.All they do is adjust the piper to account for the time of fight of the Shells to the range of the target.So now all you need to do is both hold the piper over the locked up target, and maintain constant G loading. if both a "true" the shells will hit.This is an improvement over the earlier system since you don't need to input a known reference wingspan, and set a fixed on the gunsight to get accurate predictions.
anon... you didn't join [lowiq] and now this happened....
>>483552851
>>483555982None of this has ever worked in WT btw, at first the rangefinders weren't implemented period, then when they got implemented the sights were never properly calibrated so the rangefinders were essentially worthless and now the sights are back to not reacting to the rangefinders again.
>>483556209It definitely worked for some period of time with the F-86A-5, I haven't flown it in years. But it was only implemented in first person.
>>483475684when did germany and sweden get the T-80BVM?
Bmp2m should give a laser warning when it's locking a plane why does this not happen?
>>483551762>only mentions the "better pull", which still holds true.>trusting statcards>everThat's not enough handholding for the gluttons. In game the AIM-120 pulls harder because the mutts absolutely positively need every single advantage handed to them on a silver platter.
>>483557679
Is the AAM-4 underperforming? They just seem worse than AIM-120s, and I don't see many people using them.
I still remember when the slavtranny said the tranny-90m would give rasha 100% winrate and then it turned out it had 43% lmao
>>483558191See >>483543520
tank tranny infighting uh oh
behead all sweden players
>>483558171Everything is just worse than the AIM-120. By a lot. The competition isn't even close. It's like R-27ER vs Sparrow disparity except this time it actually matters in the meta because we don't have strong multipathing to cuck all radar guided weapons.
>>483558191he wouldn’t listen when I kept telling him it would be worse than the BVM
Eternal reminder.>MiG-19PT vs F-100D - relatively balanced - 1:1>MiG-21F-13 vs F-4C - mutt domination - 1:2>MiG-21SMT vs F-4C - Soviet domination - 2:2>MiG-21SMT vs F-4E - relatively balanced - 3:3>MiG-21bis vs F-4E - skewed towards Soviets - 3.5:3>MiG-23M vs F-5E - mutt domination - 3.5:4>MiG-23MLD vs F-5E - Soviet domination - 4.5:4>MiG-23MLD vs F-4J - skewed towards Soviets - 5:4>MiG-23MLD vs F-14A Early - skewed towards mutts - 5:4.5>MiG-29 vs F-16A ADF before R-27ERs - mutt domination - 5:5.5>MiG-29 vs F-16A ADF with R-27ERs - relatively balanced (and the best state top tier ever was) - 6:6.5>MiG-29SMT vs F-16C - mutt domination - 6:7.5>Su-27 vs F-15A - mutt domination - 6:8.5>Su-27SM vs F-15C MSIP II - mutt domination - 6:9.5Mutts are, historically, 58% more handheld than the Soviets AND the Soviets didn't have the advantage ONCE in the past 2 years.
>>483559310>Thinking the F-16A was better than the MiG-29 even post R-27ERThat's some high strength shitter logic.
dead game dead general
>>483558171It should be objectively better. Especially over the AIM-120s we have in game but this is GayJew and they can never implement anything correctly.
How's your SKR-7 gamin going? Almost done
>>483559701I prefer PG-02.Though I am tempted to try out the Flagstaff+Tucumcari. The cool names should compensate for the shit armament.
>>483559701haven't started yet.
SALE UP>SALE UPSALE UPSALE UPhttps://store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?search=wt_summer_sale_24
Give J30Give S31
ip grabber
>>483559815How much time to do the challenge with not niggerkrok handheld sealclubbers? I have the pg02 but the skr7 is just TOO easy>>483559824do that because the shitters (like me) are waking up
>>483559995>Only worthwhile thing is the Type 16>Already spaded every jap tank
>>483559995Meh only thing I might be interested in are black shark and apache but I don't know how to chopper.
>>483559701I'm waiting for late hour AI lobbies, unless i roll some comfy dailies when they reset in an hour or so.
>>483560138I would consider the PG02 nigger crok. It takes me like 1-2 hours depending on if I want to try or not.But I remember doing one much earlier with US boats like the Tucumcari and the tier 3 PTs and it takes about 3 hours.Boats is fast and all it takes to do good is get one of those 8 bots two player matches.
>>483560105you can grab my pp
>No GE vehicle saleIt's over.
>>483559995mehA-6 TRAM worth it or should I just wait for a tech tree one?
>>483559995packs only?
>>483559995Surprised the tornado is on sale so quickly, though there's nothing to look forward to in the germutt air tree right? Exception of the eurofighter of course.
>wanted to get J35XS but it's been nerfed into oblivion>wanted to get Mirage F1C-200 but the subtree paved the way to far better optionsIs Anton playing 4D chess?
>>483560648retard
>>483559995>50%that's nice>100% copy pasta slop tiersill wait for the birthday sale
>>483560708You get the A6E for its GBUs at 10.3 , if you just want the A6 because it's a A6 than just wait. I fucking despise gaijin for making it a pack prem
Has anyone ever gotten one of these that's not complete garbage? There's even a sale going on right now.
>>483560867Planning to get both of em too, the J35XS even nerfed is still pretty good from what i heard and the mirage works somewhat? And that's all i need really. Also it carries magic2s which is nice
>>483561234Isn't it 10.7 in GRB now? Either way, the AGM-123 Skipper lets you outrange most SPAA you see at your own or lower BR now.
>>483561234No not really, I've caved in though sometimes when it's some shitty low level meme vehicle and I've got loads of GE
Shit, this >>483561427was intended for >>483561027
>>483561284>the mirage works somewhatNot really.>dogshit flight performance>SARHs that are more hungry for chaff than non-IRCCM IR missiles are for flares>can't even replace them with another pair of Magic 2s
What is my strat in the 9.0-9.3 G.91 for Italy? Just grind until I get aim-9's? I feel like these jets are way too high in BR.
>>483559995>ka-50 saletime to bring my ITO up
>>483561694Don't play them. They're complete garbage and get an unfavorable matchmaker. You have the MiG-17PF in the same techtree which comfortably sits at 8.7 and shits on everything it sees in terms of flight performance.
>>483561623just base bomb then collect 2 free magic 2 kills
>>483561027>>483561427yeah I was more wondering how well does it handle the current br and such and if it was worth the moneyI tried the 123s on the dev and they didn't seem that impressive (they were probably just broken at the time)is it any good in air battles? worth using as a grinder?
>>483562138>just base bombNo, never outside SB.
>>483559995Getting the Challenger 1 DS. What else should I buy?I have 132GJN
>>483559995Worth it? I need to grind the Soviet tree and the only planes I like are Su-25 and 27. and IL-2
>>483562219>is it any good in air battles? worth using as a grinder?It's workable because a lot of your opponents are lobotomized, but it obviously does significantly worse than a dedicated fighter.
>>483561427>10.7fuck i forgot about the new ratings, but yeah it's still good.>>483562219>air battlesWouldn't recommend it but you can make it work somewhat, you'll prob be food to fighters though. You'll also be competing against A10s / SU25s for bases. Really i don't see this plane used much in ARB, people get it mainly for CAS.
Which flavor of purgatory do you guys recommend for rank 6 Japan ARB? I just got the sabres I don't know where to go next.
>>483562227Depends on what else you want to grind. My other fave premiums on sale include, Mig 23ML, T-55AM1, T-72 Turms, F-5C, A-5C. Click bait is on sale too and is good but you'll get retarded team mates. If you want to grind out Britain air to go with your challenger I found the F-4J(UK) to be very good as a base bomber and you earn shitloads of RP and SL doing it, but the gameplay isn't great.
>>483562906F-5E FCU and fucking FORGET these and the F-4EJ exist at all.
>>483562906Spade your ladyboy.
I think I'll just get the first two, I still haven't committed to France or the UK but I have to both Sweden (long ago) and Japan (recently with the F-5E FCU talisman, which I got over the Sea Harrier one). Besides, there aren't any more options for a Swedish premium jet but there certainly are for a Belgian/Dutch one.
>>483562221that's on you for leaving RP on the table then
>>483562906The T-2 is pretty good but the F-104J and F-1 suck ass. If you want to suffer (or don't want to purchase the F-5 or wait 3 months for squadron research) you can use the F-1 to research the F-16AJ since there's no research penalty. You can also use the T-2 to grind the F-4EJ but Phantoms are notoriously shit so you'll probably spend your time bombing to the F-4EJ Kai, which is better, but still a Phantom.Basically, get the Thai Fighter.
>>483563051>>483563307>>483563661I thought squadron vehicles were all bad? But I guess compared to these anything is great? I think I will shill out to avoid no flares I seem to need them even with baby mode retard missiles.
>>483563463>Belgian/DutchI just got the mirage, with how gaijin treats france i think it's going to be awhile before they drop another prem jet for em. And then theres the matter of waiting even longer afterwards for prices to be halved.
>>483563753The F-5 is amazing.
>>483563753>I thought squadron vehicles were all bad?Some are but some are great, the F-5E FCU specifically is an absolute godsend for a tree that desperately needed it by far the most (TWO unplayable ranks, ZERO playable premiums).
Japan is going to be the next sweden aren't they? Once SEA subtrees and maybe even korea are added of course...don't think the gooks will be too happy though.
>>483563661You can make both the F-104 and the F-1 work.The real ass pain begins with the F4EJ and becomes unboreable with the Kai
>>483562275It's extremly good in air superiority role, grinded almost all the tree with it and it was easy. But now they are changing the BR of strike aircraft so it might change. I would pick it up
>>483564101We still don't have Jap rat cars, O-I or the TKX APS prototype.We will probably see Thailand next year. Which besides generating chink screeching when the Jap VT-4 get's added won't change much for the Japs. Maybe it will fill some gaps at 4-6 BR.
>>483564293It seems much better than the A-10 in ARB, plus funny nuke rockets in 10.3 GRB
>>483564205The EJ Kai is actually really good now that it doesn't see top tier, and 12.7 is eternally stuck with 13.0. Worst it sees is F-14s. It has a good kit and most engagements don't end up in a 1v1 anyway. It is way better as a grinder for Japan than the F-16AJ.
>>483564541The Sparrows are really bad though and the radar set is not that good. And other nations have Aim-9L busses at lower BRs.I found the F-16AJ functional enough to grind 100k this BR to finish spading it. But every match was a downtier against premium tard.
>>483564101as of now it doesn't look like they're interested in adding anything but the bare minimum to make a comically bad high tier at least bearable, so i don't think so
>>483564973Don't jap top tanks have a 4s reload? No armor but still
>>483565140oh yeah nip tanks are good but i was talking about the air tree
>>483565140Japan has the best high BR line up, 11.0 (+0.3 if you hate Kamovs)And an okay top tier.They also can make lin ups from 7.0 to 9.3 with ease.The only shit spots are the 6.0s because the STA is dogshit and 10.0 cause it doesn't exist.
>>483564101Maybe if Japan gets the F-2 while no one else has AESA? I don't really see how otherwise.>>483564205I think for most new players those two will be completely unbearable, which was my experience.>>483564541>>483564825F-16AJ gets quite a few uptiers right now but I think when people get bored of the patch it might go back to downtier heaven.
>>483559701First game of the day.What a joke, should be 300k.
>no 10.0 mutt lineup (ground) >still want to buy the a10fuck
>>483564541>>483564825Haven't actually played em since the update, but I already before it 11.7 was the best br by far, 80% of games were 11.3 premium spam and now that multipath is lowereed, the EJkai probably performs even better against the absolutely cucked Mig23 and F-4s hordes
>>483565487That doesn't stop all the other A-10 owners.
what's a good air prem on sale for mindless grinding and good money?
>>48356548710.3 US is pretty good, but the tech tree A-10 is better
>>483565816None of them. GE low Tier Jets are much better for grinding silver and those still aren't as good as premium ships.These are mostly noob traps and are only good for high tier RP research.
>>483565816a5c
Why does no one buy the Abrams despite being superior to the Mohammed 2?
Premium Mirage F1... already have all of France ground done.. should I bite?
what's good on the salei already grinded out most nations air TT in terms of props I'm not huge on tanks yet
>>483567174No, France is very likely to get a far better premium plane in the near future through the BeNeLux subtree.
>click wrong CC decal/discount referral (I already have their decal)>have to wait an hour for the ongoing referral to time out before I can select anotherfucking why
>>483567798You have two weeks
>>483567445Yeah but even if that isn't vapor I'd still need to wait like a year before it ever goes on saleis the F1C a good grinder?
>>483568114>is the F1C a good grinder?see >>483561623
>Sale happens just as I try to sell my Chink Shit cannonI guess I will try next week
>>483568440you're playing it wrong
>>483568830Playing it as a bombtruck is playing it wrong.
>>483565816MiG 23
>>483543072China in kept upJ-11A may be dogshit but the reworked J-8F has been kinoIt absolutely claps at 12.3
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>>483568938i guess you hate RP
>>483567286Nothing really
>>483569138I hate being useless to my team and completely screwing up my positioning for the part that actually matters - A2A combat.
How bad is the J-7D?
>>483569245>completely screwing up my positioning for the part that actually matters - A2A combat.But base bombing literally puts you in the perfect position, take a wide route and you'll come at the furball from the back, where no one on the enemy team is watching.
I assume this is against bluewater ships, not coastals, right? What a pain in the ass.
>>483569682Any naval target.
>>483569682No
>>483569682Nope, just play coastal in general.
>>483569862>>483569871Oh, thanks, neat. Not bad then.
>>483569245>>483569485So what's the consensus is it a good grinder or not? I'm at rank IV france right now and want to reach top tier.
>>483570000it's alrightthe flight model is not as bad as the bombing retard makes it out to be, the radar missiles are mid and the matra muzhiks are warcrime tierit's alright
>>483569457could be worse, you'll win some dogfights against retards with it but it is a pretty subpar airframe for 11.0 PL-5Bs are still decent they accelerate fast and you can sling them from almost 4km away as long as you aren't super slow or firing at super fast enemies, it only being rear-aspect hasn't been too big of a detriment in my experience, they're somewhat flare-resistant too but not enough to count on but you're pretty much fucked in an uptier, still worth 35 yuroyuan if you want to muck around in it once in a while but probably not a good grinder
>>483569146yeaaawas the sw*dish dorito any good in terms of its BR?there's also the US jet and tankbut I guess us teams are ass
My first Ace, no GEs. It's like KV-1 but better.
forgot to addI did grind up to the 109 >>483570165
>>483570140ah thanks. It would be for grindan the tree, I want russian planes but I don't wanna get a mig-23 and I don't care about german planes much with the lazur
>>483557147Leopard 2a7 is betterT-80bvm is like the 4th or 5th best, what makes top tier Russia stronk is the supporting elements like the Pantsir and Ka-52
>>483420026I'm sure that sounds like a gotcha to you but really you just explained how much you like the taste of penis and what color you prefer.
New.
>>483572161epic fail
>>483565359lmao arcade naval, you fuckin suck dude
>>483570293>like KV-1 but betterit's got far better firepower, but the KV-1 has retardedly trolly armor half the time
did they ever give a reason for sweden getting the strv 121 (leo 2a4) and a strv 121b (leo 2a4) and a leo 2a4 (leo 2a4 but finnish flag)
Did they implement the forward bases for attackers? or did they abandon that idea
>>483572821That's to be implemented some time after the update, it hasn't even been a week.
>>483572083fpbp
>>483562275I already have the TURMS. I might just wait for a GE sale to get anything else Russian ~10.0Not interested in the F-4J(UnK) on principle, as it has no AIM-9Ls in spite of never using older winders in service.I’ve finished bong air apart from the stuff added in Seek and Destroy anywayMight buy the American stuff since I don’t play them yet
>>483572821i missed this, are they gonna give attackers even easier targets?
>>483573314Yeah but they'll be moved 0.3 BR up in return.
>>483573062Ah ok I just double checked the newer roadmap and thought they were trying to hide it quietly or something. Good to know, maybe my Su-7BMK will be good again>>483573314They are gonna spawn at the foward base in ARB, so still no airspawn but at least you can get to ground targets before catching a missile (except it's actually just gonna be a pre-match where all the attackers CQC with all aspect missiles and tons of flares)
>>483573395>>483573745oh, it's a top tier thing?i thought they were shafting the already dead, buried, exhumed and cremated bombers at prop BRs
Didn't ask.
Hold up. What are "ships"? Damage to other coastal vessels doesn't count?
New bread when?
let this be the last one
>>483574914see>>483569682>>483569862>>483569871>>483569942
>>483512281
Now come on Belgium, prove you're less of a non-country than some borderlands, i want a reason to spade the Shitfire tonight.
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