HE FUCKING WON SO HARD >News>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Xh4vbs6go >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uT8wGtB3yQ >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo >>Latest patches>https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-112>>Main information document>https://rentry.org/erpasta>>Character planners>https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>>Interactive map>https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>>Group password>erg Former: >>483420024
>>483430406IS USING SPIRIT SUMMONS CHEATING?
>>483430540yeah
>>483430406R8 the dlc?
>>483430540You didn't beat the game
I don't give a shit if ongbal did it. That Radahn fight looks fucking terrible and I am not going to touch it.
>>483430636>>483430625why do streamers like jerma get to use spirit summons to easily beat bosses like rellana, but not me?
>>483430750Just rot him, trivializes the fight
>>483430406He kidnaps and corrupts people into his blood cult making people into insane serial killers unable to resist their bloodlust. He abandons Varre and leaves him to die at the hands of the Tarnished even after he cries out for help only an elevator and a couple meters away from the cocoon.To top it all off he made Malenia sad, drove the Haligtree into a dismal, rotted state without Miquella’s mimic to balance it out in the cocoon, and his dialogue implies he knows that Miquella was the Tarnished’s promised Lord and revels in the cuckoldry of corrupting their shota. He is also part of the reason why the cut Miquella and Malenia quest line doesn’t exist in the base-game, and why the present retcon lore mess with the DLC was even possible in the first place.Just because he has some twisted retcon bullshit happen to him doesn’t change the fact he knowingly engaged in evil, and would’ve still attempted to kidnap Miquella even without his charms as he needed an Empyrean for the Formless Mother’s goals.Mohgfags, just admit that you wanted him to blood pool into your asshole and done with it.
I find cookbooks over these at a ratio of 100:1
>>483430631Someome needs to make a version of the "anatomy of a gamer" meme with radahn and miquella
tanner is rightimposing handicaps on yourself is stupidif you killed the boss, you beat the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwWQcyJoXE
>>483430989>tranny ring
do not engage with youtube faggots posting their own videos
>>483430827Using spirit ashes is gayStreamers are all gay by defaultYou can still choose to not be gay
>>483430540>half the treasure is spirit summons>is using it cheating?you know what, sure. it's cheating. so are bows, magic, and thrusting weapons.
>>483430827I hate Jerma so your rhetoric won't work on me >He kidnaps and corrupts people into his blood cult making people into insane serial killers unable to resist their bloodlust. Those albinaurics are happy and you literally have to soak a hankie in finger maiden period blood to get in the blood boy's club>He abandons Varre and leaves him to die at the hands of the Tarnished evenHe's trying to birth his new dynasty >he made Malenia sadawww :(>drove the Haligtree into a dismal, rotted state without Miquella’s mimic to balance it out in the cocoonMalenia rotted it>the fact he knowingly engaged in evil,He's a victim of Omen discrimination but managed to find a loving mother, pull himself up by his bootstraps, and even lets tarnished join him
>>483430827>JermaHe uses the fucking man-serpent, I don't think it's doing any of the heavy lifting
This is what miquella's adult god feet look like. Thoughts?
>>483430989>I only knew where every blessing before that fight was and went gathering them and have a broken op overleveled build
If you:>used spirit summons>used a defense up ring>have never strafed a boss attack>have never jumped a boss attack>have never blocked a boss attack>used a ranged weapon>beat a boss on torrent>used a teleporting ash (e.g. bloodhound step)>wore armor for any reason but fashionthen you didn't beat the game
>>483431392Is he ticklish?
>spooked
>>483430406>mohg never got to meet the bloodfiendssad, they would be bffs
>>483431504>he dodgedyou didn't beat the game
>>483431520where's your parry shield bro
My character is making my horny, anons!
>>483431176>>483431184this is what i mean: what is considered cheating vs. "beating it legitimately"? serious question im not even joking.how are you guys beating shit like renalla and radahn by yourself without "cheese"? is even shit like scarlet rot considered cheesey and therefore not legitimate? what if i use a strike weapon against a boss weak to strike damage, is that cheating? i know people are gonna joke about this but im really curious what the consensus is. my guess is "as long as you do it by yourself with no summons you can use whatever the fuck you want", is that fair?
is the DLC meant to be post game?
>>483430540It is cheating, cheating YOURSELF. I mean this without a hint of irony. If you would rob yourself of the victory's high, no one will stop you.
>>483431392A closer shot, with the skirt hidden (his legs only go up to a little past the knees)
*ahem*CURSE YOU BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLE!
>>483431664don't have one
>>483431928Why the fuck are his feet so high detailed yet smooth. It's like her perfectly designed his god feet to be soft and appealing. Why? Who'd he do it for
>>483431184You know, now that you mention it. I'd much prefer if I could use spirit summons freely in the fucking overworld, instead of extremely limited loctions. Running around with my own clone or my wolf bros to kill mobs would be a lot more rewarding than using them to fucking gang up on some defenseless boss.
>>483431343he won with the Yoda summon fully upgraded. Yoda did like 75% of the damage. after like 3 or 4 hours of trying and failing, an actually good summon was used and he beat it first try with it.
>>483432126You know exactly why
>>483432167I didn't see that, yeah he's cringe and gay then
>>483431705Bleed and colossal weapons that insta-stagger bosses trivialize their mechanics more than spirits do
>>483431705I beat relanna by facetanking her with a colossal and sprinting behind her on some attacks, it was pretty easy but I had like +12 skud which I think is higher than most when they first find herIts hard to define whats too OP so that it becomes a "cheat"Cheesed Radahn though, I consider how I beat Radahn cheating for sure even though I didnt summon, because I used a greatshield and just held L1 for 90% of phase 2 then just hit him when he did an easy opening like the grab, died like 15 times before that, but putting a shield on made it so much of a joke I beat it the very first attempt with it
What is that spell called where you throw a black flame and it deals hp% dmg?
>>483432428have you actually tried using colossals in the DLC? you barely get to stagger anything and bosses are so hyper aggressive that you barely get time to do your slow swings
>>483432276here you go.
>>483432126FOR RADAHN TO WRAP HIS DIVINE FEET AROUND RADAHN'S DIVINE COCK TO MAKE SURE RADAHN, HIS KING, HIS ELDEN LORD, HIS CONSORT, IS PLEASURED BY EVERY INCH OF HIS BODY HE HAS BEEN WAITING THOUSANDS OF YEARS FOR THIS AND YOU SHAME HIM? HE CAN FINALLY TAKE MORE OF HIS GRAVICOCK AND YOU MOCK HIM? YOU DONT KNOW TRUE LOVE OR AMBITION OR OBSESSION YOU DONT KNOW WHAT TRUE LONGING FEELS LIKE HE NEEDS TO MAKE HIS FEET CUTE FOR RADAHN OR HIS PLAN FALLS APART
>ulcerated tree spirit but it takes a million hits on your maxed out char because you didn't find enough tree turds yet
>>483432536It's called Black Flame.
>>483431705>what is considered cheating vs. "beating it legitimately"? serious question im not even joking.Serious answer: You beat it when you kill it.
>>483432584I haven't used a single skibidi, the only ulcerated fuck I fought was the poison one in the castle, wasn't much trouble.
>>483431705okay, that makes sense then.>how are you guys beating shit like renalla and radahn by yourself without "cheese"?1. i put down a summon sign and co-op until i get a feel for his moveset and weaknesses2. i prepare weapons etc. that are strong against it>im really curious what the consensus isa lot of people have a favorite summon, usually a cute girl. some guys go purely solo. others have even more restrictions like no bleed no frost etc.if it's me, i'll summon if i feel that it's strong for the fight. but some bosses are strong against summons so i won't summon then. i like to fight bosses with my friends, we have different roles (one will heal, another will stat proc etc) and it's fun to coordinate on voice. but most bosses aren't that hard.
>>483431705>483432652>"you beat it when you kill it"**without looking up a cheese guide. if you come up with a cheese strat yourself, it's cool.
>>483432652it's just weird how hard it is solo vs. how easy it is with a good summon, hell even with shitty summons. after you get pummeled for hours it becomes incredibly tempting, but then you do it and win easily and it feels cheap and empty. idk man, idk.still is a serious question though, curious what anons thoughts are on how the game should be played and if anything is illegitimate even if it's in the game in offline mode.
>>483431705For Renalla I just parried her and stabbed her with a dagger, I died a bunch but it was fun to learn, honestly wasn't too difficult.
The boss is beaten when I feel satisfied with it dying. If it dies and I'm not satisfied with how I beat it, then I didn't beat the boss
>>483430874>kidnaps people and makes them into insane serial killers unable to resist their bloodlustAnsbach's existence immediately disproves this, and he's the leader of Mohg's forces.
>>483432904>it's just weird how hard it is solo vs. how easy it is with a good summon, hell even with shitty summons.I learned my lesson when I summoned some fucker to help me with Ornstein and Smough. Fight was so easy I never, ever summoned for bosses again.
>>483432869i struggled with the dancing lion boss using the solitude GS and dragon halberd and such. then i finally switched to a strike weapon (stone club) and it just "clicked", and i beat the shit out of it, it was hilarious. im never underestimating the power of strike damage weapons against heavily armored bosses ever again.
>>483432904The only illegitimacy that can ever be gotten in this game comes through cheat engine. Any arbitrary limits people put on themselves to make their peepee feel bigger on the internet is just that and nobody should really take those 15 year olds seriously.
Is it true you can summon other NPCs against Messmer, or is it only Hornsent?
>>483433048quiet down
Um marika bros? My gf has gone full rannifag and ordered one of these fucking things. These things are $300+ usd. Should I be supportive or is she too far gone?
>>483432652you did not beat it if you helped a spirit summon beat it
>>483432780it wasn't trouble but it was stupid and took 30 ripostes arbitrarily
the item chest should be account wide. i'm gonna get a friend to trade over 2 characters with me to use cool weapons on a fresh save anyway, just take that work off my hands and let me access the same chest on all characters.
So it's just a coincidence two demi-gods have snake associations?
>>483433132what's more legitimate: fighting a boss solo but with excessively high scadu blessing level and RL, or fighting a boss with a spirit or NPC summon but with fuck-all for scadu blessings and/or being underleveled?
>grace before hippo>fight hippo>grave in hippo roomThis might be the worst one since the dragonslayer armor incident in Lothric Castle.>>483430540Nein. Ashes are friends
>>483433317>$300That doesn't look like it's worth more than $30
>>483433369You anus beats my dick daily.
>niggas all excited by the new thorns spell and carian big sword ash>when perfume stuff is the actual new fast 1 hit KO wonder everyone wanteddo the devs not test this shit or is it all going to get nerfed to oblivion?
>>483433430The latter imo.
>Hornsent gone>Leda staying in the same place and NOT FUCKING MOVING Why are these quests always FUCKING BUGGED
>>483433430Honestly depends, I don't think level matters for the DLC, the scadu blessings seem to help a ton. If you aren't using blessings your summon will probably get fucked by boss damage so who knows how helpful they'll be. Either way I'm going to do it on my own for my own satisfaction.
>>483433317it's just a fucking doll dude. girls buy shit like dolls and plushies everyone knows thatthe bigger question is why haven't you fucked her in marika cosplay yet
>>483433048Varre is also pretty damn calm most of the time. Although he is also a creep, he's not insane. Eleanora is also described as a proud knight too. I think they are just Cainhurst. Showy dudes that like blood.All we know is Mohg loves blood and wants his own DYNASTY.
Found this on /v/ and nearly died laughing yesterday. Which one of you bastards made this kek?
>>483433048>be Mohg>don't send the charismatic, well-spoken, polite leader of your knights out to recruit new inductees>send the slimy, condescending, blatantly sinister stockholm victim out insteadWas being retarded part of Miquella's brainwashing too?
endless dead endsstill no tree turds
>>483433768is it some eceleb? if it's on /v/ then maybe it's a gamedev
>>483433613Maybe it isn't bugged. Maybe you haven't fulfilled the requirements, or you haven't found the next stage. Humu humu.
why did they change Messmer's voice? He sounds so much better in the trailer at 1:35https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo&t=106s
>>483433317As a marikafag you should know that her grace can lead you along ranni's questline. So marika supports herself x tarnished and ranni x tarnished. So you should support your gf's rannifaggotry. It's what marika would do.
>>483433907https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=liev+schreiberfamous hollywood actor. His son is a tranny.
>>483433951This reminds me of the Vyke invasion/Frenzy questline being bugged for months after release and dumb reddit niggers saying over and over that this VERY specific X/Y/Z reason is the reason he doesn't invade you at a certain point and maybe you should do this or that and-Then a patch hits.Surprise, it was bugged.God I hate these niggers
>>483433768Fucking kek>>483433907That's Liev Schreiber the wolverine actor, he has a son who dresses up as a girl and has really sexually weird behavior with him
>>483431504>rangedRanged is actually harder though now that every enemy spinning like sonic
>>483433802>what a retard, he doesn't sent the leader of his knights off to recruit psychopaths>he sends a psychopath instead, seriously what a retard
>>483433951Honestly, they should eventual post what the alleged requirements are for these quests so that it is very clear when they are bugged or not.
Outside of the Shadow Keep, legacy dungeons are very disappointing compared to base game, they don't even come close to Raya Lucaria or volcano manor, let alone Stormveil and Leyndell.
>>483434002Fuck no he doesn't the fuck are you on about?
>>483434087so a boomerbox eceleb. pretty fucking cringe dude.
>>483433802You need to go into the Mohgwyn Dynasty with low expectations. It's a repurposed tomb on top of a blood swamp.
Ive been invading with Backhand Blades and Swift Slash on my twink build and I feel actual guilt while invading for the first time. However, The Goblin has never been more powerful.
>>483434312he sounds like a pompous spoiled son of Marika.
>>483434746is the rot grease any good? it never procs for me
"You did not beat it" is a social construct.I would've used summons if I was playing a blind playthrough of Elden Ring without access to the internet/no previous information about the community. I would've assumed rolling did not give iframes so I would not bother.
MORE MIQRAD(offical name in files btw) FANART I KEEP FUCKING WINNING I LOVE THEM
>>483434892all those words when you could have just said "i cheated"
>>483434746very nice. i'd recommend blue dancer charm if you're going naked with a light weapon. it's damage buff isn't anything to special in the base game but it makes a far more noticeable difference with the scadutree blessings
>>483435028Anon mentioned nothing about cheat engine.
>>483433613Its going in the back entrance/flooded church zone first that bugs it.
>Rellana moves so fast that she hits your unshielded sidewew
>>483435028I beat Sekiro though. I use ALL tools available in the game.
>>483434969Why are you so obsessed with this ship?
staring a new character i what can i do that isn't claymore build? faith? i've never done that, does that work?
>>483435505crafting only build
>>483435505I would like to do something that isn't claymore build** is the sentence that was supposed to appear there. I think I had a stroke.I always go for my safe claymore in every souls game, and I think I should change it up.
>>483435505i'm doing Backhand Blade with buff incantations for my second run.
>>483435505sure, pyro is pretty good. you're hampered early on by how the best pyro gear is in the mountaintop but luckily catch flame is the strongest pyromancy in the game. the dlc added a lot of really cool pyro weapons like the infusable fire zwei
>>483434851It procs constantly. Two swift slashes rots every single person ive ever invaded, its hilariously broken.To make it more entertaining, my main objective is to inflict poison, rot, and frostbite on the host and all his phantoms and I can do it reliably almost every invasion.
>>483435451I like YaoiHypnoMindbrealObsessionYandereRapeSize difference Small dom big subBig dom small subRedheads BlondesIncestDubious consentSnuffTheir story is essentially all of that.
>>483435874i'm going to change my twink's name to GOBLIN SLAYER and try to get summoned as a blueyou're 1/+0?
>>483435983Either woman or trans.
any skibidis here or am I wasting my time?
>>483435983NOOOO I MEANT MINDBREAK IM STUPID
>>483435983>dubious consentit's a nc story
>>483430874Miquella forced him to do all of this
>>483435983Cringing in real life
>>483435505Pure faith40 vig35 mind20 end80 faith>>483436112It could be either. Coming from /xivg/ I've learned there's a lot of bioholes on this board and I've gooned on cam with 2
>40 vig
does the dlc change anything in the base game?
>>48343605235 +3Im probably going to go up a bit because im accumulating too much bad karma by killing all these new hosts
>>483436332>I've gooned on cam with 2>"women" from 4chan
>>483436482I like playing with 40 vig. When I pick caster I want them to be squishy and I avoid 150
>>483436529i don't have a twink in that level rangewhat other weapons do you like? i've been enjoying milady but it's nothing op.
>>483436121I think one of the omen killers in that fort drops an occult eye or something that you'll want for a quest thing
Leda... my beloved...
If I pirate and creamapi the DLC can I play online if I own the base game on steam?
Apparently you can parry but I can't
>>483436678why? was radahn squishy?
>>483430631For me it's a 6 at most
>>483436734Nice company Miquella kept around, truly sound minded people.
>>483436726does the quest give skibidis? Otherwise I don't care
>>483436869Huh
Where is my mod that automatically applies all my buffs when I enter a fog gate?
>>483436332>Coming from /xivg/ I've learned there's a lot of bioholes on this board and I've gooned on cam with 2
>>483436690Fire Knights Greatsword is ridiculous. It staggers like an ultra greatsword but is faster so you get a guaranteed combo on L1. The boltstrike dual axes are pretty good too but not as broken
>>483431705Only legit way you beat the game is no equipments, no hit r1 punch only runs
When am I supposed to hit the boss? When is it my fucking turn? lion boss, rellana, midra... they just keep attacking and attacking and attacking when the fuck am i supposed to swing back??
suck it
>>483431392Dayum, those legs, those hips. Miquella be mine and mine alone!
is it gay to want to fuck miquellagayfags please answer
>>483436869Oh i think i understand I'm not the yaoi poster i was just explaining there are some egirls here and there but i suspect a troon>>483437186yeah theyre pretty slutty over there if you can hold a conversation just play a male viera or something
>>483437186>>483436332>>483436112>>483435983>>483434969keep this shit in /dsg/ please
>>483437341you mean those lack of hips? men don't have wide hips. those are meant for delivering babies.
>mimimimimi cheatingIt's not my problem if a demigod or a gay god can't get through my metal shield forged by mere mortals, literal skill issue
Where are they?
>it's another host who didn't bother to do the forced exploration >now we have to deal with 3x health bosses with no damage to deal
Bruh... I started a new save for the DLCand I'm at lv. 120 getting stomped by these guys in yellow armor with curved great swords and 1,000,000 poise.
>>483437651Miquella has a woman's q angle
>>483437680Does that mean the quest endings? Maybe?
>>483435983>I'm gay>and it gets worse
>>483437651>lack of hipsHe gave himself hips wider than his mom's for some reason.
>>483436937I mean, her sister is the goddess of literal planetary cancer...
>>483437675i tried blocking the lion faggot but he just launches me or blows me away or shoots some gay lightning shit that still chunks me even when blocked.
Wait, so the ending is just that cinematic of Miquella in the rape basement? Nothing else after watching that?
>>483438345Yeah it's his rape dungeon. Offscreen he has a custom made radahn statue he uses for thing.
I don't know why exactly but Memezaki did a good job with the Frenzied Flame and it really does unnerve me. I don't really know the deal with Three Fingers, Shabriri etc. though.
>>483430406I'm a few hours into the DLC and I'm enjoying the gameplay but I'm so fucking pissed that it still hasn't addressed even just 1% of all the questions that were raised by the base game, so give it to me straight: is this going to disappoint me?
>>483431698Making your horny what?
The dlc really appealed to the Hindu audience with all that poison and rot that they added to the game
Thoughts on reforged? Thinking of trying it out then uninstalling at the DLC
>The circlet of light which adorned Miquella's head as he returned in divine aspect. It has begun to fade into nothingness. Slightly boosts intelligence, faith, and arcane, while also boosting the power of Miquella's light. This circle was to be the very foundation upon which Miquella's age of compassion would be built, should it have ever come to pass.Imagine being against his plan.I can't help but think about how some state this bullshit "but we still have free will" while the dudes sister or mother gets raped and killed by some retard in another land. The craziest thing is, Miquella ALLOWED free will, personality, and differences. He just didn't allow people to kill each other. If you were basically the only point you have against him is "Im Mad that some people cant rape and kill anymore". How did the western world and eastern world get brainwashed so badly to think THIS would be bad? Are they just puking out the lines some movies fed them?
POST WEBMS I WANT TO SEE WEBMS
>>483438493midra has gotta be one of my favorite bosses in the whole game. just looks so fucking cool, and was so fucking difficult. 10/10 bravo miyazaki you did good with this DLC for sure.
>>483437047It gives you an edgelord katana if you give it to the woman in the Sauron armor
How the fuck do you beat Bayle? 10 skib and my shit is still getting kicked in.
>>483438898Btw radahn wholly consented, was never manipulated, during his boss fight he has all of the mannerisms as normal radahn, freyja is certain he isn't being brainwashed, and radahn loves him very much and would willingy do what miquella asked. Most people ITT would change their tune of they met miquella.
>>483439063you didn't use the summon
>>483438905that's pretty cool but palm blast is better than shithound step And I think beast claws outclass all the other short range weapons because beast claws ash of war makes you go faster and cannot be avoided
>>483439063perfume bottle spam and watch it die instantly
>>483439063I beat him at 13 scaduThe dragon katana blasts him hardThe unique ashes skill to the weapon deals a lot of damage and it's easy to land
>>483438898>Imagine being against his planHe discarded everything that made him compassionate, if you think his Age of Compassion will be peaceful and full of love, you haven't been paying attention.
>go to area>no skibidis >get back outsorry Michael Zachary I'm not doing your FORCED EXPLORATION unless I have to
>>483439653but he became a perfect god so it's fine
>>483439103i want to see someone make a version of that meme "i consent, i consent, i don't. isn't there someone who you forgot to ask?" but with miquella/radahn/malenia in that order.
>>483439758Fuck that, the Elden Throne is mine, I'm not letting some soulless femboy take claim to what belongs to me.
Getting to know Blind Spot. Loving Blind Spot. Sex with Blind Spot. Creating a wonderful family with Blind Spot. Growing old with Blind Spot. Dying of age happily with Blind Spot. On my grave: "Father, Husband, Blind Spot Lover".
Anyone else play elden ring while working from home?
>>483430540If you press any button on your keyboard or controller you didn't beat the game
>>483439869uwu *Embraces you*
>>483439460I’m using a STR/FAI build, spark bottle didn’t seem to do much even at +25. Something I’m doing wrong?
any fun arcane weapons?
Why are there sites of grace in the shadow realm if the whole point of the shadow realm is the lack of it?
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD>bu-but Miquella wanted to make a better placeNO FUCK HIM AND FUCK EVERY OTHER SHITT GODMAKE EVERYTHING BURN FOR ALL ETERNITY
>>483440372marika puts them there for you just as you arriveshe's really into you, maybe you should give her a chance?
>>483440343use the rolling sparks ash, lightning perfume bottle, perfume talisman and anything else to boos your lightning damageaim AT THE GROUND when using the ash, at the feet of the boss, the sparks will all trigger in that spot like a fucking nuke and proc a hilariously huge damage on anything
>>483430540honestly just get the fucking scadu blessings. boss giving you trouble? go find some more. get all of them.i won't summon, i'll beat every boss myself, sure. but beyond that i'm making myself as OP as i fucking can and you can all suck my dick if you don't like it. i solo'd the whole DLC. i beat the game.
>>483440637>speedrunner uses half of what's in the game, does zero (0) co-op, uses one (1) weapon and dies to bosses over and over again until he gets lucky enough on RNG to barely squeeze out a win>isn't even ashamedspeedrunners are a special breed
The only thing that really bothers me out of anything is that they didn't give gideon ofnir any new dialogue. Of all characters, it makes the least sense that he wouldn't have anything to say.
alright so what's getting nerfed first? My bet is Wing Stance.
>forma de omen>teleport back to base game>rest at bonfire>talk to melina>!>"bearer of the curse..."
>>483441043what? you reply to the wrong post there, bud?
>>483439063>Baylecurse him
>>483441252wing stance can't even beat those fire k***hts
>>483440372They're sites of LOST grace, not sites of currently existing grace.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's time to co-op Radahn
>>483441252perfume bottles, especifically the rolling sparks ashimpenetrable thornsthe carian sovereingty ashthe blood fiend colossal armthe rest is all fair game
>>483441561carian sovereignity? really? i didn't think it was that strong. care to show me a clip, please?
>>483438898Did you miss the part where freyja only supports the plan so radahn can wage endless war?
>>483441252>Wing StanceThere is much more broken shit than that
>>483441681if you put it in a greatsword, you get hyper armor when casting it so you can't be interruptedaside the supid huge damage if you go full INT, it also does like 100 poise damage if the 2 hits land, so you can stagger any bossagainst human enemies either you instantly delete their HP or send them right out of the park with just a sliver of health
>midra is literally just zanzibart forgive me>it's actually kino as fuck
>Everyone is complaining about dlc boss difficulty.>People even say its too hard with ashes and summons.>I literally one shot every boss so far with just mimic tear and no summons>Only gaius and the plant took 3 attemptsWhat a pathetic community. I'm literally using some shitty build I cobbled together (bloodfiend arm memes) and am only scadu level 12.
>>483442203>5 lines of text>3 items>1 minute long cutscene>kino boss and lorehow do they do it?
>heavy armor gets one decent looking yet fairly generic set of armor for the entire dlc
>>483430540yes
>>483430631conflicted/10
>>483442364nice bait10/10
>>483431705>what is considered cheatingAnything not in the game.>beating it legitimatelyAnything in the game.It's that simple.
DOES SCADUTREE AFFECT MATCHMAKING/DAMAGE WHEN INVADING YES OR NO
>>483432570>have you actually tried using colossals in the DLC? you barely get to stagger anythingDumbest nigger imaginable 2hing a colossal gs had plenty of staggers for me
>>483434969This is a RADAMIQ house okay!?Even rolls out of the month easier
scadutree avatar felt like a parody
What is a fun faith weapon I'm at 30 50 50 str dex fthI'm using Flame Art Milady rn
>>483430969this picture makes me feel things
>DLC comes out>it's NOT the most kino part of the gameIs this the first time this has happened?CHADagon remains the highlight
How do I replenish the Marika potion?
How do I make the smithscript hammer not shit? Throwing it is cool, but not having a normal charged heavy sucks for my playstyle and it seems to have cucked poise damage on the throw so I can't just use it as a heavy in meleeI AM using the talisman to enhance the throw. I apparently can't put weapon enchant ashes on this either or I would. I'm drawing blanks on how to make it good. Such a cool weapon conceptually thoughspecifically i'm on a str faith build btw. Throwing hammer paladin is my favorite fantasy
>>483430540Is that the guy that got his mom killed?
>>483442203Maybe his cutscene but the way he was built up when you entered the mansion is pretty unique for these games
>>483440619Thanks anon, that did it!
>>483442589Everything Frenzy Flame related usually ends up being fucking awesome due to it being so unsettling. The drop in the sewers is still one of the most chilling places in the game.
>host is all alone, panic mode>blue faggot comes along!>suddenly brave>gets stabbed in the fucking head and diesMitsubishi-san made this weapon for us, red sisters.
>>483442947>CHADagon remains the highlightToo bad he's followed up by Elden Sneed.
Godefroy is the key to all this. We just haven't unlockes the secret cutscene where he drops the (literal) People's Elbow on Radahn and Miquella.
Total Hornsent Death?
>>483433741"Of the surgeons that were abducted by the Lord of Blood none were able to tame the accursed blood.None but Varré, that is; though he was an exception."Eleonora also kills her "hunting" partner, even after having the finger sliced off and shit.
>>483442947Gwyn > ArtoriasTHOUGH
>>483442947Shaman village is the best area in the game and Bayle best boss though
>>483442956Bro your cheat engine
Where do the Abyssal Woods rank on the Soulsborne spooky tier list
come clean with me. did you upgrade your weapon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9f-7nV1iSA>no matter how much you help him, there's no way to not kill the hornsent>he just randomly invades you with no dialogueWhy is he like this?
>>483430540is easy mode
Is Hornsent's quest bugged? I did everything and the summoning signs aren't popping up.
>waiting 5 hours to be summoned>just to die like a bitchdo bluecels really?
>>483443269>Dies>Can still invadeHow though
>>483443239If only the forest had something to do besides collecting 3 scat fragments and killing rats
>>483443191Stormveil is still the peak gameplay wise, game peaks extremely early, then Radagon is the highlight moment of the game with the main title theme kicking in reaching ludicrous levels of kino and the transcendental Elden Beast transition into the EB music and EB otherworldly arena
>>4834306317/10if they adjust the final boss and maybe the hitbox of another one it'd be a 8/10 to me
>>483443239Underwhelming, they big up the DON'T LET THEM SEE YOU IF THEY SEE YOU IT'S OVER only for there only to be a few of them
Does Romina have high cut resistance or something? I barely do any damage once Lightning Armament runs out.
>A sword made to commemorate the death of General Radahn.>Infused with the humble prayer of a young boy; "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death. So I may fuck your soul inside Mohg's body in the 4Kids Realm."
>>483442364>People even say its too hard with ashes and summons.see: >>483432572it's impressive because that was after 3-4 hours of losing over and over, but that victory was the first time he summoned yoda. that's the difference.
A goddamn shame they're not going to make another DLC....>A smaller one centered around GEQ, Godwyn, and nature of the rune would be nice
>>483443269>>483443393Hornsent are innocent. The Shaman did that to themselves.
>>483430540I honestly love spirit summons for themed builds. Even if Nomad is trash, i'll summon him every time on my frenzy character
>>483440056In an alternate timeline, there was no battle with Malenia while this was Radahn's POV
>>483443307please respond
>>483443269He's a filthy savage
>>483435983Mega based.
I guess this is what makes Malenia a "valkyrie": she's responsible for transporting a warrior's soul to the martial afterlife after ensuring his glorious death in battle.
>>483443269good. hornshitters got what they deserved
>>483443532hi
>>483443513There's also the whip mentioning they'd use it on them so nah
>>483432652>You beat it when you kill it.Correct. When YOU kill it. Not an NPC doing that for you.
>getting drops on a 4080 super with 40% gpu usage in some areas in the dlcfix your game miyazaki
>>483443023feel good to 1 shot everything right?
Should I be fighting gaius before messmer?
Gloam-Eyed Cuckquean
>mohg did nothing wrong>zanzibart memes>Radahn was the good guy>confirmed dragon priestess waifu like VykeMiyazaki lurks here, these were all shitposts in these threads>>483438898>age of compassion>built by mind control and throwing away his capacity to lovestop denying that he's Griffith turning himself into Femto, with Radahn as his gay obsession Guts equivalent
>>483440396This is exactly what the From corpo shareholders wanted when they coerced Miyahacki and the rest of Fromcrap to retcon and rewrite the entire last half of the DLC. Make the players who've played it leans more toward bitter rotting nihilists who give up on life, or emasculated cinder Age of Fire cucks.Imagine if they let a global phenomenon like Elden Ring have a shota god marriage ending with a hopeful message of unity, peace and abundance everlasting. They'd be finished.The best thing we can do is realize that Fromcrap was being disingenuous with it's writing this time around, and do our best to nurture the everlasting, primordial light in our hearts that will combat the despair this compromised game studio From left behind with this "DLC" behind.
>Melee builds are just shit in certian situations and lack reliable ranged damage>arcane builds have to fight against some enemies that are immune to bleed>int builds without faith invesment do 100% magic damage only with 1 or 2 physical damage spells >faith has access to 4 different damage types and all the buffs and percent damage attacks+ can inflict poison/rotCan someone give me one good reason why faith isnt the objectively best stat?
>>483443187Quite, however dare I say Manus > Gwyn>Pendant does somethingYep, I'm thinking kino>is obviously the Furtive Pygmy>Retcon it laterKino points depleting fast.
>>483443621Everything you see in the Gaols is what the Shaman did to themselves.
>>483443650Yeah. Gaius never gets easier and he guards like 5 Skibidi shards
>>483433802Varre was a flunky, Ansbach was already enslaved to Miquella by then
How do I make m'lady good? The moveset is pure kino
>>483430631Strong 9/10Areas are beautiful, new weapons are fantastic, exploration is fun and so are the bosses.I haven't fought any of the bosses people deem "bullshit" yet though, so opinon might change. They would have to be complete fucking irredeemable garbage for it to end any lower than 7/10 though.
why did they draw miquella as a girl but call him a guy?
I, uh, I don't think I can go back to a time where I don't have a smithscript weapon or Messmer's spear.
>>483432584Died to one shot of Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike lol
>>483434282You posted this on the other thread. Is a discord raid happening again?
>>483442947>it's NOT the most kino part of the gameExcept it is. Everything feels really eerily and surreal like I was playing a different game entirely.I know it's cliche but it really felt like a dream (and I'm a lucid dream addict).The main overworld OST is masterfully crafted and the atmosphere wouldn't be the same without it.
>>483443728>and he guards like 5 Skibidi shardsFucking prick. I was worried about this.
>>483443687>Melee builds are just shit in certian situations and lack reliable ranged damageWhat about auto crossbow?
>sunflower boss>frames drop to like 15 FPS due to everything happening in the screenI don't even know how I beat that shit, pic related was my face the entire fight
Breed....
>>483433802Varre was probably the only "sane" one left. Every brave knight would've charged in to save him from Miquella and gotten bewitched themselves.
>>483436734>literally murdered every other one of miquella's elite knights because she's a paranoid bitchwhat's her fucking problem?
Bros I dont think I'm good enough to beat Radahn. I'm 34, I've gotten old...this is a boss for the young and fit.
>try deflecting with weapon>get knocked back so far the boss is out of reach for a guard counterAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>483443676It was too good to be true that a global hit like this game would allow you to actually marry a boy god. It would have been the first and only game to do that.
>>483438898I don't trust Radahn. He's a warmonger.I don't trust a Miquella without love or compassion. How can he teach others about that if he himself is devoid of it?He should've spent his time fucking the bitches in the Haligtree instead.
>>483443925She's an even bigger simp than Mohg was after his brainwashing.
>>483443950Just use all the cheese you have available brother
>>4834306319 out 10the whole scadutree system fucking sucks and some enemies like the wicker man fucking sucks
>>483443950I'm 32 and did it gramps
>>483443950Why does his armour show off his legs so much?
>>483443781Well... good thing that would be impossible I guess?
>>483443676Honestly, I know you're shitposting, but I agree you. The only endings post DLC-retcon I can even consider are Flame of Frenzy or Ranni, and even then Ranni is stupid for not simply killing Metyr. They fucked the story that hard.
>>483443269>didn't give him the scorpion soupIT CHANGES EVERYTHING (actually i don't know if it makes a difference)
>>483443323No one waits for blue summons anon. They just stick the blue thing on and play the game. I do the same while invading and leveling characters.I only help if the host looks legit though, if not I'll commit suicide to give the red a hand.
>>483443767you go quality and use greaseyou put the AOW Wing StanceAlexander Shard + Rellanas Stance talismanat 60+60 you'll be hitting for 2k and doing poise damage enough to stagger almost everything in 3/2 strong AOW hits
>>483442947
>>483443690I don't know, the furtive pygmy being just some fuckhuge le evil monster was kinda gay, I much prefer the version from the Ringed City, with them actually sharing the soul amongst themselves.
>>483443878>Except it isThe completely out of left field Radahn kinda destroys it in that regard and prevents it from reaching true kino
skadooo altus or this area first?
>>483435983Keep your kink list on f-list shitter.
>>483443950Same age and it took me almost four fucking hours.
>kill Ymir>He pulls a ZanzibartWhat is their problem?
>>483444176That area is awesome and has some great death magic stuff if you're into that.
>invade with the intention of killing host>zero fun>invade with the intention of being an annoying pest>can invade for 10 hours straightI see the light
>>483431705Try not to take /erg/ seriously, people here bitch about summons but then literally cheat.
>>483444154Thanks
need an analogy for what's it like to play through elding using a weapon without bleed
>>483443950I'm 42 and beat him without summons
>>483394661>>483394729>>483394829Wow...that's lame as shit holy fuck.
>>483444110 Did she know about Metyr? And even then, Metryr is just one of many Outer God (servant)s.
i noticed i have a much better success rate in bosses being the only phantom rather than one of 2cant tell if its because of boss scaling or do people just suck that much in general at doing damage
>>483443767>How do I make m'lady good?equip it
>>483437680You can choose to side with crazy psycho yandere or against her.There's your multiple choice ending lmao.
>>483443323>>483444132>Game fucking shits out blues when I'm invading>When I have the ring on it takes like 3 hours and a lot of time I'm just AFKWhat a dogshit system just make blues invaders again
>moore is the only one who can survive, and comments that no one comes to visit except for you>feels bad
>>483442896The Lightning Perfume works pretty well with that spread.Also I'm pretty sure that every single Smithscript weapon has great damage with INT or FTH infusions.
>>483444176There's fuckall to find in that area so I'd say altusThere's another faggot death rite bird and golem in the red area and that's about itAnd a gaol I guess
>>483443950Dude, literal quadriplegics are doing it.
give me another week and I'll finally beat relanna
>>483444375Which foreshadows the next DLC?
I'm scared
Messmer's lance would be great if it had a normal R2 instead of the throwing attack bullshit.The problem with the throwing attack is that it seems to deal no stagger damage and therefore really sucks for close ranged combat.
>>483444336Her whole problem is with the Greater Will, which it turns out never actually did anything. She could've just killed Metyr instead of executing her massive scheme where she backstabs everyone and gives the world cancer.Even if she didn't know Metyr existed, that's still stupidity on her end.
>>483430540Who among you can say they beat the game?
>>483443878I like the DLC overworld music, but I don't think any area has surpassed this for mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ4h4wZp6o
Is fire associated with the hornsent? Why did Marika dislike fire?
>>483444308also he's melina's brother
>>483438898I love Miquella!
>check what Milady is in Japanese>レディソード, literally "Lady Sword"Kek
seems like some of you guys here need this, so here you go:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsKV4scavc4
>>483438041He must have inherited marika's breeding fetish and given himself a womb to finally cope with the reality of having been born a man.I'm certain FROM managed to get some very favorable bank loans for including that shit.
>>483443676>Imagine if they let a global phenomenon like Elden Ring have a shota god marriage ending with a hopeful message of unity, peace and abundance everlasting. They'd be finished.that's literally the most globohomo ending possible, Miquella is a leftist cuck which is why reddit loved him and Malenia. Miyazaki BTFO'd them
>>483444559I wrote this post
>>483444375I liked these bunch of psychos
>>483444176how the FUCK do you get there?
>>483444631Yeah h-haha Miyazaki really owned the leftists by turning all the fan favorite demigods into homosexuals.
Dragons (including Bayle) are only weak to thrust in ER right?Lightning was only in DS.
>>483444521>Her whole problem is with the Greater WilOnly the Greater Will? Not the several other deities that are proven to have a hand in the world?>Even if she didn't know Metyr existed, that's still stupidity on her end.How do you expect her to kill something she doesn't know about? If you mean "her massive scheme where she backstabs everyone and gives the world cancer.", she either presumably didn't know that would happen, or she did, but plans to eventually deal with that.
>>483444663awright bruv
>>483444663Same. I think the Miquella seven were a pretty good group
There is only one real choice for Elden Ring 2 that makes sense if you want the best and most interesting game possible>Elden Ring 2 takes place an undetermined large amount of time after 1, hundreds of years at least>following the Chaos ending>The fallout of the Chaos ending is starting to affect the outside world>Godwyn's deathblight has spread across the seafloor and is reaching the coasts of other lands since our Chaos Lord hasn't done anything about it>Kingdoms start sending their greatest assets to The Lands Between to Investigate, this is your character in 2>Land is completely changed, although the main point of interest is still the Erdtree in its Chaosified Frenzy flame form>Major plot-points includes /ourguy/, Melina, GEQ, Godwyn>final boss is /ourtarnished/ from 1 inside the Chaos Erdtree
>>483430540Mimick ash (clone magic build) was the only way I beat Messmer. Tich wasn't pulling fuck all for slack so I don't know. They force spirit ashes so fucking hard in the game I'd say it is legit, although some bosses get raped by them.
>>483438898>Allows free will>He just didn't allow people to kill each other.These are mutually exclusive, there is no scenario where inA: Dung eater has free will.B: He doesn't defile everything he can get his hands on.Behead all hornsent Marika did nothing wrong.
>/erg/ calls summoning cheating>the OP has links to cheat engine and grand merchant, and most of the regulars here use themFriendly reminder to ignore this place about summons, its a den of hypocrisy.
I use summons on any repeated boss
>>483444830This is a 10/10 in bongland.
>>483444830still would t b h
power within?
>>483444521>Her whole problem is with the Greater Will, which it turns out never actually did anything.her beef is with the GO and the fingers, whether the GW is directly commanding them is irrelevant. The fact the fingers were LARPing makes Ranni even more justified
>>483444375How do you get him to survive? It is the dialogue choice before he disappears?
>>483442028Greatsword or Colossal? I get staggered when using it with Milady
I use summons because I like hearing my dragon wife refer to me as her lord
>>483444375the dryleaf nigga was also part of the group?I mean I guess it makes sense, since he's there, but he kinda just does nothing and dies
>>483444864This is the face of people who want to hurt Miquella btw. One can never listen to uglies.
>part of me want to stay 150 because casual PVP>part of me want to just level up and say fuck it because I get to use more options and the PVP is shit and won't ever be as good as DS2 anywaywhat should I do
>>483444897
>>483444849It might as well take place in other places seeded or back in time then unexpectedly in the future.
>>483444992I'm using the guts sword and have yet to be staggered when using that ash
>>483445006he fights you and is besties with leda, that's all he does really. he doesn't talk.
If you haven't beaten the DLC by now, you're dragging your feet and hoping that Fromsoft patches it. Just like with post-patch Radahn, if you beat it after the patch it doesn't count. So hurry up before it's too late
>>483443860I posted it earlier but realized this was not the active thread, nothing to do with your imaginary boogeyman.
>>483444810The Greater Will is what she thought bound her fate as an Empyrean, yes. That's what her whole deal is. The other gods are basically unimportant to her, but she's still counteracting them.>How do you expect her to kill something she doesn't know about?The new retcons in the DLC make her ending rooted in a retarded, incorrect premise.
>>483444864Couterpoint. If Dungeater tries to defile/harm something, and he is physically prevented from doing so, he still has free will. He just isn't able to execute the action his free will seeks to perform.
>>483444740
>>483445000You can summon the priestess?
>150I thought 120 was the level. Been staying at 120 since forever.
Can I fight fagdahn at 16 scooby doos or am I not allowed to play the game yet
Name characters from other games or media that you can properly role play as in Elden Ring with an appropriate build/playstyle
Why is she black?
>Walk out a random gate>run into a random demi god>easily one of the harder bossesWho the fuck? I haven't come across any other mention of this dude and he apparently Messmer's best friend and Radahn's rival. It's like someone slipped into marysue OC for fun. What the hell even is his curse?
>>483445009So much for free will lmao.>Don't worry it's not mind control! Except for anyone who does something I disagree with.Put these foolish ambitions to rest.
>>483444740Different anon but it starts from a dropdown all the way over here.Unless I'm misremembering.
>>483445215He's cursed to charge for eternity
Smithing Stone [4]
>>483444759>radahn literally had to be murdered and turned into a puppet because he refused>entire DLC hammers into your head that Miquella is a scumbag and by proxy so is his gay globohomo plan for everybody getting along via MSM mind controlMiyazaki pretty much endorsed genocide with the DLC, Marika and the GOfags like Radahn were proven right
>>483445134That's only the reddit PvP meta. Unironically. Most normie streamers ended the game at 140.
What really triggers me is this ingame cutscene that never made It in. Together with the other promotional illustration with Torrent makes me think that the Miquella we got isn't the Miquella that was planned.
>>483444663>Embroidered with a golden crossed-tree motif, the chalk white cloak and surcoat symbolize the honor of the Needle Knights. "Kindly Miquella fashioned us as his needles to quell all, to ward away all.">Long ago, the Needle Knights were in service of Miquella, but now they are no more. Save for one.>Though polished to a mirror sheen, this blade still reeks with the stench of crusted blood that lingers from the cull of her knightly comrades.What the fuck was Leda's problem? Why did she decide to murder every single of Miquella's handpicked knights?
>equal FTH scaling>higher DEX scaling>on normal, sacred and flame art infusionsSo this thing is just the erdsteel dagger 2. Dunno if the slightly higher damage compensates for the DLC's difficulty but I remember dual erdsteels having an absolutely INSANE DPS back when I played it.Is it maybe time to do another 80FTH build with minimal investment? mesmer's flame build?
>>483445325I don't recognize that, what's it from?
>>483445215Also leads messmer's armies
>get summoned>check status>scadutree blessing 1>finger severer
>>483445234no, the area above is accessed much lateryou go to the cave from the entrance to relannas castle
>>483445267Anon, Radahn isn't mind-controlled. Speak to Freyja. You failed to comprehend anything in the DLC.
>>483445116>He just isn't able to execute the action his free will seeks to perform.Then he doesn't have free will, you cannot have light without shadow.If your every choice is forced to always be one way, you never had a choice to begin with.
Does greatsword of damnations WA scale off faith or total AR?
>>483445325Huh, you're right.
>>483444830>>483445165Who are these?
>>483445129Yeah. She also uses her Dragonbolt at the start of combat and it applies to you too.
>>483445529Freyja and Jolan
>>483445432The first trailer from February
>>483445379she just needed a good plapping and some kids, women turn into ideological zealots if they don't have children to distract them
MtF
>>483444987If you tell him the third option of you don't know, he just sticks around. You don't get his armor and shield though. The first option causes him to invade you, and the second option causes him to die
Jesus christ what the fuck were they thinking with the hippo?I spent 90% of the fight with the camera showing neither my character nor him.Pretty easy since he melts even to a fire build in spite of standing on water, but fucking annoying.
>Divine beast warriors are easily the hardest hitting of the beast warriors>last of the beast warriors to be encountered and only at the end game area>chest armor has worse stats in the three most important areas than horned warrior>flat out worse across the board than divine bird Oh eat my ass Miyazaki. It took me thirty minutes of dodging fucking light beams and shanking the cunt over and over to get the chest to drop only for it to be mediocre. Worse still black knight armor that you can get from the very beginning of the dlc mogs the shit out of it. At least now I have a normal sized lion head to wear after farming it I guess.
>>483445026embrace the Level 200 meta
>>48344323910/10, it starts out extremely spooky but ends up the most peaceful and cozy zone in the game
>>483445540I killed Bayle before finding the altar and never even encountered her
>>483445325I was thinking Leda was Miquella's womanly guise just like what St. Trina was initially perceived as (just a disguise), and he would be guiding us to help him achieve apotheosis without revealing his identity until the very end.
>>483445379I'm wondering how the fuck she managed to leave her notes in spots after various of the bosses
>cuts absolutely ANYTHING fucking interesting at all from the DLCWhat was his problem? He wanted to cut Maria and Ludwig from the Bloodborne DLC too, if it wasn't for Sony stopping him.
A legendary incantation requiring 70 faith
Just unlocked the secret ending and True Miquella fight.That has got to be the most convoluted unlock FROMSOFT has ever done, whew.
>>483445164Kratos>New smithscript axe + any Viking shield (Messmer soldier Works well)>Dual wield magma blades for his edgy blades>Beast Claws for Berserker Mode
>>483445679>do anything before looking up every little detail about the game>miss out on cool shitDid you rike it?
>>483445735what it do?
>>483445740All that fucking backtracking is a fucking nightmare isn't it.
>people hate gaiuswutfirst boss i had fun fighting mounted. Every other mounted boss is just>run away while he attacks>then dash in and hit a fully charged attack>easy win But gaius actually needs you to do kino dogfights, jump over the clumsy boar with your nimble goat, avoid attacks with timed dashes... He's actually an amazingly designed mounted boss and the first time I didn't feel like I was cheesing while mounted
>>483445093I’m still exploring the base game. I’m beating the dlc regardless of any patch.
>>483444375Wait really?Almost immediately after the notification that Miquella's Rune was discarded/broken, I had Moore invade me out of nowhere.I thought it was meant to signify that the charm was the only thing pacifying him and that he was actually a recusant or something.
>>483445634How should I make my arc/faith build (dragon nigga) into level 200 but still have a fun weapon?also what weapon should I use
Is the divine gate where Marika became a god or is it just where she sealed the realm of shadow?I'm starting to think it's the latter, otherwise the timeline we're given in the DLC doesn't really add up. The implication from the trailer and game itself is that she shows up at the gate right after Messmer's massacre.
>>483445710that mongoloid retard face should be stomped and ran over by a bulldozer
>>483445379Hardcore shotaconThe mere thought of someone even disrespecting her precious god-boy-notwife sends her into an uncontrollable rage.
THIS BOSS IS SO FUCKING COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>483445740Secret ending?
>>483445505>Then he doesn't have free willIf I tranquilize you every time you try to punch a guy in a green hat (which you have an desire to do for whatever reason), that doesn't suddenly make you lack free will. You still have it, you just can't act on it in that specific context.
>>483445505Under this logic, you lack free will right now because you're incapable of choosing to be omnipotent or fly.
>>483445825Restore 24 health per second for 30 seconds in a tiny radius
Mixed
>>483445710>cuts absolutely ANYTHING fucking interestingThe Miyazaki Special
>butchered Radahn and turned his soul into a shitty bow>Mohg is dead and I turned his soul into a shitty spear>DLC essentially brings them both back with a dogshit asspull>uh Godwyn is dead FOR GOOD goy there's no way of bringing him back ok stop asking questions that's just the loreWhat am I missing here?
>>483445379Before, Miquella placed a charm on her and her comrades to have them get along. She took the charm being broken as a sign from Miquella to no longer trust them and weed out traitors. Or she was addicted and is experiencing shota withdrawals.
>>483445820It was mostly because I was flailing about aimlessly in Jagged Peak looking for a map that turned out to be a completely different area
>>483445215he's an albinauric and doesn't have working legs, check his pants
>DLC is called Shadow of the Erdtree>There's next to no lore about the Scadutree itselfThe genius does it again
>>483445460>Freyja>moron who got mind controlled by MiquellaI'll put my trust in Jerren over this dumb whore
>>483445901He was cool the first 93 times I fought him
>>483440396>Miquella wanted to make a better placeWhat of Freyja's talk about eternal war regarding Radahn's revivial? lol
>>483444803Use the dragon rot greases, they do a lot of damage and its easy
>>483445820I do, yes. Not every secret has to be uncovered on the first casual playthrough, that's what makes them secret. Internet shouldn't exist, it just ruins vidya.
>>483445946>>483445710>Cut St. Trinas quest from the gameI can only assume he did this because "NOOOO ITS A LE HECKIN' GRIMDARK! WE CANT HAVE ACTUALLY GOOD CHARACTERS!!!"
How much did Miyazaki plan and how much was from reading fan theories and taking ideas?
>>483445415All Mesmer Knights weapons are great
>>483445710>He wanted to cut Maria and Ludwig from the Bloodborne DLC tooSource?
>>483445980He even has an albinauric wife in a shack...good for him.
>>483445710We should petition for the Japanese government to execute him.
>>483446007note that she never says Jerren would disagree with her assessment, just that he wouldn't like to acknowledge it. No one contradicts her. She's put in the narrative to give that piece of exposition.
Is it true there's an alternate Placidusax cutscene if you kill the Dragon Priestess or whatever on the DLC?
>>483445856Did you kill any of the nice Rot bugs who give you cookbooks? Those are his buddies
Do you guys actually manage to trick yourself into thinking the lore matters?
>>483445980wait so he is of those alien frog headed fucks you see in Liurna?
>>483445901The depths of your FOOLISHNESS!yeah, he's awesome
>>483445878Who knows, they cut it from the game.The land of shadow is hidden by the veil.The land of shadow is in the middle of the lands between, that sea part with the cloud on the map.You only see sea from the main game because of the veil.The veil is connected to all the divine towers, probably
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo&t=59Which theme is that violin/cello from?Around 1:00-1:08 when he says the erdtree faithfulI can't seem to pin it
>>483445710>He wanted to cut Maria and Ludwig from the Bloodborne DLC too, if it wasn't for Sony stopping him.>miquella schizos making shit up to support their headcanonjust admit you are low IQ and bad at interpreting the actual base game lore. Plenty of us predicted that Mohg was a victim and that Malenia invading Caelid implied they were the bad guys
>>483446225Reminder you can get locked out of this if you don't find all ze bugs.
How do you dodge Gaius's charge? I tried rolling to the right, to the left, straight forward and I even tried jumping and I tried delaying my roll as much as possible but nothing works.
>>483446149I found the dagger and know they have a sword and intent to farm it, are there any others? Apart from bossweapons?
>>483446280Don't be an SMTfag, come on now.
>>483445878The Sealing Tower is where she sealed the Shadow Lands. She just placed a giant Mimic Veil over it.
>>483445960>"Leda, I'm making you one of my Needle Knights, an elite order of knights dedicated to fighting outer gods. Work with them">"WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MURDER YOUR OWN COMRADES, IM GOING TO HAVE TO BRAINWASH YOU TO COOPERATE NOW"fucking leda
>>483430406>no Erdtree's Favor +3So disappointing. Why include +3 versions of other talismans but not this one?
my favorite part of the DLC was second-to-last fightit was very cool
kek the joke truly writes itself
Holy shit Gaius is even more annoying than forewarned.
>open chest>beast hornBecoming more and more convinced that a lot of items are placeholders and this dlc needed another few months to bake.
>>483446149huh? I tried the spear and the axe and they were both very mediocre with nothing particularily interesting about them
>fighting the wicker golems takes so long and drops frames so much that after a while controller inputs get literally a second of input laganother 90+ metacritic fromshitware masterpiece
>Dane's Footworkkinda feel like im playing max payne with the kung fu mod on at the moment
>>483445820>complains about replay valuecompletions get the ropefirst playthrough blind for the ludokino exploration, 2nd playthrough to get all the items and NPC quests
>>483446331Wait, is this the same Indian schizo that spergs out at anyone mentioning Godwyn? Let me test. "Godwyn."
>>483446439Why didnt he just let us kill him? Thats what we ended up doing anyway.
>>483446285No, he's probably like Albus. There are two generations of Albinaurics; the first gen look human but don't have working legs. the second gen are the frogs
>>483444539>thrusting swordhe certainly can't say he has
>>483446356you can just make dozens of those, that's not a big deal
>>483445710>Godwynfags seething so hard they are just making shit up nowLmao
>>483445980Wait I thought only female Albinaurics were legless? How the fuck did Marika even give birth to an Albinauric I thought those fuckers were created by the Nox or some shit
1) Are adherents to the Frenzy Flame just nihilists who think the pain of existence is intolerable?2) Why do the ant people, or anyone for that matter, support the rot goddess?
>>483446387Simping too hard without getting to hit it makes you crazy. At least she didn't spiral into substance abuse like Thiollier.
Which option should I pick for this Demon Souls looking dude
>>483446565>>483446668Yep, called it.
>>483446613He was told by Nanaya to endure
>>483446697Piss on him.
>>483445925>you just can't act on it in that specific context.>>483445928>you're incapable of choosing to be omnipotent or fly.Midwit zoomer take.When a baboon chooses to eat a monkey legs first, while the monkey screams and flails in absolute agony is it evil?No the baboon is acting out of instinct, it's a fucking animal and cannot be held to a higher standard than such.When a human chooses to torture an animal however, it is universally accepted as being needlessly cruel and the person most definitely has psychological issues and/or a lack of empathy.The capacity for evil is what allows you to choose good.That is what it means to have eaten from the tree of knowledge, that you as a human have the capacity to tell good from evil.If you are being mind controlled by a literal god (Miquella) so that you have to act in a certain way, you are not free. You are a zombified version of yourself, much like the NPCs are in the start of the DLC.Alberich pointed out how fucked up this shit is, he wanted to kill Miquella because he was defiling his lord, but then got his heart stolen and just simply... Couldn't.
>>483446697Grace lets you summon him, the other one gives you his weapon.
>>483446697Occult
i haven’t punched my controller as much for any game. myazaki should be raped with a chainsaw
>>483446697Grace for Spirit AshesOccultation for Weapon
>>483446697Grace for spirit summon, occultation for weapon.
>>483446356These Bugged out and were spawning under ground half the time for me.
>>483446671Because he is not a child of Marika you retard, he's a random Albinauric that studied gravity magic and went with Messmer to the shadowlands
>>483445540>banished knight>dragon communion buildDangerously basedPost build please
>>483430989>some tranny that uses mimic tear to fight Rellanauh huh...
>>483446747Yeah, but he yoinks the thing out.He just pulls it out and does the one thing he was asked not to do.I dont get it.
What build makes your Tarnished the most powerful lorewise
>>483445710>cuts absolutely ANYTHING fucking interesting at all from the DLCWhat, the only things missing are Melina and the Godskins
>>483446971Jump attack spam
>>483446479>throw 3 bombs at the wicker golem>dies in 10 secondsUhhh your crafting anon???
So how do we feel about the reviews, Eldenschizos?
>>483446613Because it's MADNESS
>>483430540If using spirit summons is cheating then using strength is cheating. I honestly had a harder time on my mage that summoned than on the strength character everyone convinced me would give more satisfaction.
>>483442880lewd
>>483446735You will never get your edgelord Prince of Death fight and you will never be a woman
Okay Bayle is wrecking my shit and I'm loving it.Finally a worthwhile Dragon Boss in this game.In his second phase it seems like you cant punish his bone arm charged attack any more because of the AOE ? In the first phase you want him to do that attack because its an easy punish and you sometimes get two or three attacks off safely.I think he is my last boss before I have to go end a gay incest wedding redpill style.
>>483446371Fire Knight Greatsword and Queeling Knight Greatsword
>>483446548>open world game>replay valueThe only thing worth experiencing over again are the bosses. "Exploring" a world you've already seen is fucking boring.
>>483446971Frenzy
>>483446462do you perhaps mean the mesmer SOLDIER weapons? the knights are the ones with the red hoods
>>483446971RL1 naked man with wooden club because it forces you to hone your skills to perfection.
CURSE YOU, BAYLE!
>>483446971Godslayer, Blackblade, Destined Death etc probably.
>>483447027I'm actually surprised by how much backstory the DLC clarified>origins of Marika>origins of 2 fingers>formless mother lore>complete dragonlord backstory>some insight on scarlet rot>crucible stuffonly people seething are Melinafags and miquella trannies
>>483447080Why would you care about the reviews and not just your own opinion? Review schizo.
>>483446967He cant endure anymore, he tells you this bwo
>>483447146>saaaar you will not be of woman saaaar!Keep seething over Godwyn for no discernable reason. Whatever lets you cope with the DLC's entire story being cut.
>>483447157>In his second phase it seems like you cant punish his bone arm charged attackI THINK you can roll into it but I forget
>Messmer come and join the Tarnished
What was the design choice to practically remove all narrative in the DLC?Why did they decide to remove like all of the story and narrative drive that the base game had?
>mohg is hereby cleared of all charges of basedness>won
Anyone here used the ER save editor to de-level a character? I have a ton of runes and I was thinking of going up to 164-200, but I don't want to lock myself out of 138-150.Is it better to do a copy of the character beforehand instead?
I'm not having fun with the dlc bros, what do I change my build to have fun again? The magic is gone
>>483446775>If you are being mind controlled by a literal god (Miquella) so that you have to act in a certain way, you are not free.We aren't talking about mind control. We are talking about the scenario where he allows for free will, but prevents killing. He still has his will. He still wants to do X. He is still thinking he wants to do X. But he is prevented from accomplishing X.
>>483447181I want Igon posting to continue for at least a year
>>483447285Copying your character is infinitely simpler. Set a distinct name before saving a backup of your savefiles so that if you want to merge later you know which is which
>>483447230What crucible stuff did we get anyway? Haven't found much. The black knights of Messmer use it don't they?
>>483446971Frenzyflame or black blade incantations
>>483446971>FTH>can cast magic of the gods, throw lightning of ancient dragons, manipulate death itself>INT>can summon celestial bodies and call the powers of outer gods>Frenzy>direct help of an outer god capable of destroying quite literally everything, including spirits>STR>can swing stick with metal, stick with rock, BIG stick and go boom boom heavy bang over head smash puny uga bugayeah, it's STR
>>483447292bleed works best. these animals deserve nothing less
>black flames are actually possible IRLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o8ktldjcog
>>483447252So? Just let us kill him. Why pull the thing out?
Someone please remind me where the two hippos are i fucking forgot where
>>483430989If I watched someone else beat the game on youtube, I beat the game.
>>483447285didn't readpost full picture or source
I might be trying to pick this game back up soon. Is there a spell sword like the Blue Flame in DS2 hidden somewhere in Elden Ring? That's always been my holy grail weapon in Souls games.
>>483447230Yeah, I'm happy to keep GEQ and Melina theories in the Velka bucket and leave it at that. I think they're the same or Melina is directly her daughter but the game will never confirm it and I can live with that.What I wanted the most was more Marika stuff and the DLC knocked that out of the park so I'm good
>>483447269>Aieeee where is my prince of death fight, clearly this was cut and rewrites!Cope and seethe nigger, Godwyn will never be more than a undead mermaid
>>483447035wow that totally fixes all the horrible performance issues, why didn't i think of that
>>483447162that's the point, first playthrough you get the full exploration experience. second time you can just speedrun it using a guide if you want to get everything. Using a guide on 1st run is the worst possible way to do it
>>483446323An old version of Rellana's theme, it's not in the game as it is in the trailer.
>>483447181WITH A HAIL OF HARPOOOOOOOOONS
>>483447546you're welcomealso get a better pc.
>>483447512this
>>483446775Reminder than in the alternate universe where everyone always acts "good", no one them would ever complain that they had the inability to do bad, because all that affords you is vain pride in that you chose the right thing over choosing the wrong thing. And in exchange for that pride, you make the world a partial-hell from what was once much better.
Radahn? Yeah, I'm gonna co-op that guy
>>483447397Thanks, good idea.
Why are the DLC NPCs so much more interesting than 90% of the ones in the vanilla game? The only thing they have against them is that their questlines are so short and convoluted.
>>483431705>how are you guys beating shit like renalla and radahn by yourself without "cheese"? I'm not amazing or anything but here is me beating her.
I wanted a Cleanrot Knight NPC. Cut Moore.
>>483444631Reddit did not love Miquella or Malenia at all. If you liked Miquella too much you'd be chain comment raped with Mohglester memes, and if you Malenia too much then you're called a simp in comparison to the chadahn fan (cause it's cooler to prefer a male character over a tragic female character)But that's beside the point. The ending that benefits the corpos the most is the one we got where the Tarnished extinguishes that last vestiges of hope from the Land's Between, letting the Erdtree slowly die off to Godwyn's deathblight and Outer Gods continue to tamper with the Land's Between. It's a message endorsing maintaining the status-quo at the expense of a brighter, more godly future where our bond with the Greater Will is fully mended and everything returns to innocence and purity everlasting.Look beyond the homosexuality for a moment and see that's just one of many devices utilized by the corpos, and it isn't always used in the same way, and in some situations, it can even be the opposite of what the corpos want. The particular homosexuality an Elden Ring ending with Miquella would endorse runs contrary to the transsexual nuclear family destruction you're likely envisioning that's touted and propagandized in mainstream media.Miquella represents a return to the innocence and purity of childhood, where all was limitless and no one was guilty. To marry him means to reject the traditions that bind us to the state, and embrace the godly essence within all of creation. Loving it all completely, while using the wisdom of our forebears to make it all dance as one harmoniously.This goes against the corpo agenda of perpetuating war, FOMO, men competing with other men for women (every man for himself think) and survival consciousness. That's why Miquella had to be male.
>>483447672>171
>frenzy fist>perfect for my frenzy build!>check it out>scales on 4 different statsmotherfucker, is this some kind of suck joke? whats the new dex faith build in the DLC that is not perfume then?
>>483447269>Whatever lets you cope with the DLC's entire story being cut.We got marika, saint trina, crucible, dragons, miquella, and a bunch of extra tidbits here and there. Literally what are you talking about
Anyone doing ice spear build? How is it holding up in the dlc?
>>483446323Such kino trailer...... How did they fucked up so bad?
>>483447613i have a 5600x and a 4070 super, there's no excuse
>>483447538How about every Boss past Messmer lacking any meaningful dialogue or narrative context, and the DLC ending on a fart of a cutscene? You have to figure out Radahn isn't mind-controlled from Freyja because they didn't bother finding him a voice actor. Igon's quest is more finished than this shit.You disingenious Indian faggot. Absolutely obsessed with Godwyn despite no one even caring about him.
>>483447550I agree that using a guide on the first run ruins it, I just don't like how easily you can lock yourself out of certain things.
>>483447729why yes, that's correct. I leveled with the souls given to me by the DLC content
>>483447669NTA but take your meds
This is so fucked
>>483443965damn miquella is beautiful
>they don't stack>can only carry 1 at a timeand here I was ready to spawn in 999 of them
>we got yet another faith greathammer>and two more int katanasman
is there another way to midra without that gay ass catacomb?
>>483447304>We are talking about the scenario where he allows for free will, but prevents killing.And the prevention comes in the form that you cannot WILL yourself to do it faggot.If a train is barreling towards you but you aren't allowed to act in a way that would prevent your death, do you have free will? No your choice was made for you.By someone else.Free will means that (you) get to decide what you do and the moral responsibility and consequences of your actions are your own.In Miquella's world there is no moral responsibility, because (you) don't get to choose.
>>483446323>Those shots of Miquella showing us the tree>Not in the gameImagine cutting shit literally 4 months before launch
>>483447561Can I find it somewhere?
>>483446306>Who knows, they cut it from the game.I think it's more that From just looks to put vital shit and cutscenes only in their trailers for some stupid reason.
>>483446852see>>483445440>Elder brothers to the lionRadahn is the lion anon and the entire point of the line showing commonality between him and Messsmer.
>>483447902you WILL get shot by the cannon imp
>>483447834Anon, your schizophrenia is acting up. You mistook me for yourself.
>>483447181>>483447571I wish I knew how to edit so I could put Igon’s screaming over blood and thunder.
>>483447271You can but then you cant hit his head because of the AOE after it.I mean you can hit his body but the damage is shite, I think hitting his leg seems to act as a weakspot too.I might try focusing more on the leg during the 2nd phase.
>>483447696>parrythat's gayer than mimic tear my dude
>>483447804>Why isn't there an epic Marvel cutscene at the end of the DLCYou never played a FromSoft DLC you absolute tourist
>>483447878>you have to keep fucking the dragon lady to get the blessing
Found a great farming spot so you can unlock the meta loadout posted from your favorite YouTube or Twitch stream!
>>483447804>How about every Boss past Messmer lacking any meaningful dialogue or narrative contextFinal boss, Metyr>and the DLC ending on a fart of a cutsceneNot a big fan of The Old Hunters I take it?Not even the guy you're talking to but you sound a bit retarded
>>483447854Yes
Thoughts on this assassin drip?
>>483444539>no rolling/skillsheh did you use skill? didnt beat the game chud
>unable to summon cooperator>unable to summon cooperator>unable to summon cooperator>unable to summon cooperator>unable to summon cooperatorJUST LET ME COOP YOU FUCK
>>483445735how fat and slappable was Maria's faith stat bros...
>>483447997Body hits can still be worth it to build up poise damage, I don't know how much it was reduced but I was getting stance breaks mainly hitting the body
>>483447769I have a 2-4 year old PC and am running the game on high with 60 FPS the majority of the time. Have you got something turned on that you shouldn't?
Can you get into pic tower at Ruins of rauth? There seems to be a throne or something when looking at it from the side
>>483445901>literally quits after getting his shit pushed in for over an hour straight because he can't brute force it with halberd jumping L1's while ignoring their moveset like every other boss he foughtkino af
>>483448032Nah it's really fun.
>>483447669Marika couldn't stop the outergods, what the fuck makes you think Miquella would do any better? Most of them don't even spread through violence but rather emotion.Can you feel fear while not being allowed to be violent?Most definitely, that's why prey animals are way more easily spooked than predators.If you can feel fear, you can feel dread and despair.And once that door is opened, even eternal spirits will be burned away.He didn't promise a land without tragedy, because that's literally impossible, accidents happen especially when there are literal cosmic forces turning your world into a battlefield.
any ideas on how to further improve this? it's working really well, but i think it can go higher
>>483448062You're ACTUALLY, FUNCTIONALLY retarded if you think Radahn had proper narrative context. He doesn't even have dialogue. And the comparison to The Old Hunters cements your sub-70 IQ.Suck start a shotgun for the good of humanity.
I did it lads. I got that fucker with rolling sparks. easiest game of my life.
>>483447921>do you have free willIf I have the will and thought of "I want to avoid this danger", then yes, you do. I take you, a person presumably with free will, and blowdart you with paralyzing venom on the train tracks so you can't move, does that mean you are a being who now lacks free will? No. You still have your free will, but you can't act on it.
>>483448185the FPS is fine, it's the frame pacing that gets fucked and makes the game drop inputs and stutter
elding 2 wish list>can pick between different weapons for each starting class>class with a low tier colossal sword>spirit ash summon can now be turned on and off, will follow you anywhere>boss replay feature for fewer runes>arrows are retired, bows now come with magic regenerating arrows >actual easy mode that limits damage taken
oh shit le ds2 referencerino!
I thought this fight was BS until I started parrying, now I'm having a ton of fun. I'm right there bros, one last push
>>483448228>Marika couldn't stop the outergods, what the fuck makes you think Miquella would do any better?His needle does that, though.
>>483448375Why did they saw off the horns from his face but not his arms or feet? That seems inconvenient.
>>483448138Reset your game if this happens. I co-oped with my brother through the DLC and when this happened to either of us we'd be completely unable to summon eachother until a reset.
>>483448350what are you trying to make these games good? gtfoh
>>483447921You are demeaning the notion of free will. Literally lacking free will vs having free will but no power to follow upon it are different things. Acting like they are the same is asinine.
>>483446356I've probably missed a fucktonHow many are there?
>>483448032>my dude
>>483447692>mandatory to summon some of them in boss fights to complete their quests>dialogue during said fights instead of them just silently attacking, making them feel more like real characters instead of glorified spirit ashes>intentionally defined to subvert your expectations (Leda turns out to be a psychopath, Ansbach is your ride or die bro, Thollier returns to save you and redeems himself after invading you, you can "save" Queelign and Jolan and turn them into ashes, etc.) All of these are improvements over the base game NPCs. Imagine if you could save Alexander by turning him into a spirit ash, or Malenia.
>>483446637what's wrong with thrusting swords?
>>483448039this, FROM returned to form by removing all the cringe dialogue and infinite cutscenes that plagued the base game. Miyazaki has good taste, like removing the dialogue for Artorias that they had in DS1
>>483448350>Boss replay featureWhy did they only add this to Sekiro and absolutely nothing else
>Some of the jar people executed by the Hornsent has symbol carved on their forehead >Those symbols look exactly like Radagon's sore seal
my love
>>483448248If you did the questlines you knew he was coming, and exactly how everything happened, and it also recontextualizes several events from the base game in a way that makes sense. Your brain still seems underdeveloped, maybe you should read some YA fiction to develop your reading comprehension to the level of a 13 year old.
If he does the fast swing followup, the parry is nearly auto timed.>>483448452Just supposed to be a visual indicator of him bodysnatching mogh to make it clear to the player I think
>>483448287Except we see how it works in game you idiot and that's not how it works.It works as literal mind control, compelling you to not act in a certain way.But to go with your retard analogy: Did the person getting tranquilized have a choice when it comes to not getting run over by a train? No because someone else (Miquella) just forced them not to.
>>483447713>Schizo babble
>>483446367It's straight forward through his boar's head but it's at the last possible minuteIt's retarded. Dumbest most counter intuitive shit.
what are some kino great hammies?
The Remembrance is a lot more sinister than in English and makes Radahn look like a pedo.幼き日、ミケラはラダーンに王を見たWhen very young, Miquella saw in Radahn a king:脆弱な自分たちにはない、強さをsaw strength - so unlike their frail selves -そして優しさをand, too, saw kindness.First, it's specified that Miquella is VERY young. Second that's not a complete or grammatical sentence, and the linebreaks create the cadence of someone struggling to find words. It feels like the thought got constructed backwards, potentially because Miquella was small he could remember the word "king," but had trouble with "strength" and "kindness". Which makes sense in terms of how hard those words are to say: kindness = "yasashisa", strength = "tsuyosa", king = "oh".だからミケラは純真に願ったAnd so, Miquella's innocent request:私の王に、なってください"Be my king, please"The "innocently" is "junshin ni" (純真に), which carries a strong implication of naivety that "heartfelt" does not. The comma in the middle of the quote isn't grammatical, but rather an indicator of hesitation. Miquella said this aloud to Radahn while too young to understand what it meant. Maybe even what "king" meant, aside from "dad".
>>483448062The Old Hunters had an entire game worth of lore intricately tied to it and wrapped up by it.The DLC story is a shit fanfiction offshoot that didn't show us anything narratively interesting whatsoever
>>483448667Yes, Miquella? You called?
wait so do we become god at the end of dlc?
>>483447902Most areas in the DLC can only be accessed a single way, so no.
>>483448739the new smithscript one is as kino as it getsvisually I don't think you can beat the cleanliness of the great mace
>>483448374?That was in base Elden Ring alreadyand it doesn't change your gender
>>483448739giant crusher, anvil hammer, devonia's hammer
midra is unironically the most honest boss in the dlc. if you take more than 10+ tries on him you are actually retarded. just stack focus talismans and armor and you just win, dont even need a summon
>>483448669Ah, nevermind, you're just a disingenous fucking slave that's too cowardly to criticize Fromsoft for anything. Even YOU don't believe your retarded arguments. Carry on.
>>483446367Straight forward. The timing is finnicky. Even when I finally got good at the rest of his moveset I only every dodged his charge correctly like half of the time.
How the fuck do you get faith caster build to do anything in early game? I'm getting walled by fucking Margit because Catch Flame and Flame Sling are both absolute dogshit that do no damage at all, compared to how much they cost to cast.
>>483448587I presumable because via multiplayer, you can always "refight" bosses with your character (even though it isn't alone anymore and is tied to online functionality). But since Sekiro has no multiplayer, the only way to do that would be for a boss replay mode to be added.I agree they should add it.Also make larval tears farmable, like other Dark Souls games did for the equivalents
So what is the vigor requirement for the DLC? I'm at 40
Once again inquiring about these:Good as a solo weapon? Good for a block-counter build?Good as a shield? worth taking over just a buckler with shield bash on it?The attack seems not much faster than most weapons you wield 1H
I played about 10 hours of the DLC but I can't do it anymore man I'm so fucking boredI shouldn't have played the base game for 800 hours
>>483448784>Radahn was the real Mohg all alonguh oh.
So going out of my way to get the last 5 scadu levels is worth it for fighting radahn? Also how do you deal with the dive in phase 2, should I just grab a holy damage shield or something? Or is the roll timing super fucking tight
>>483438898>>483444864>>483445116>>483445505>>483445925>>483446775>>483445928>free willhere just watch this: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke8oFS8-fBk
>>483448784zesty.
>>483448784>radahn is the pedo for getting hit on by his young brotheranon..........the redmanes are going to fuck your tight asshole
>>483448919>40 vigorPump that up to 60. Also collect more scat trees
>>483448784Does any of this imply Radahn did anything though? Still just sounds like Miquella doing shit
>>483448919It doesn't matter, it just wants you to farm scat fragments
>>483448974If he was, he wouldn't need to be executed by Malenia. Messmer thinks he is a cool guy. I trust Messmer
>>483448859He's honestly more tame compared to most other bosses in the dlc
>>483448998>here's sσy reddit man talking about how everything is actually sσy and redditNo thanks.
>>483448859>beat the dancing lion and rellana in 1 (one) attempt>lose to midra a million times because i wasn't stacking buffs properly at that pointbros...
>10 scadoodle before facing Rennalaam I going to be fine?
>get summoned for putty knight>host dies before i my feet even touch the floori LOVE this game!!!!!!!https://youtu.be/pKnDy_azYm4?t=279
>>483448919I've been running on 55 the whole time, works fine
>>483448861I accept your concession.>>483448797You've said literally nothing, you've argued with nothing and for nothing. Use your words to actually describe things instead of parroting half a dozen buzzwords, you can do it.
>>483448784>radahn is an all around badass and cool guy>just by existing becomes Miquella's obsession>somehow this is Radahn's faultit's like people said, Radahn probably jokingly agreed assuming it was just a childish request. Didn't expect Miquella to turn into a complete schizo who built his life around that promise
>>483449112i really enjoyed him, not so easy to be boring but not overwhelming enough to warrant whipping out mimic. just wanna kiss him on the cheeks he's so good
>>483448784Have you considered his word don't necessarily mean too young but too inexperienced? Do you not think this guy was sheltered as fuck?
>>483449154I had 6 and beat her fine
Quality or Keen?
>>483448425Outer gods are just one example of all the shit that can go wrong.I don't think his needle is going to help much when literal cosmic horrors fall from the sky as they routinely do in the lands between.Miquella's Utopia is a lie, because the only way for it to be so is for no one to feel anything at all.Which is a existence more pitiable than death.
>>483448693>It works as literal mind control, compelling you to not act in a certain way.If it makes me unable to even think of or ever wish to perform the action, then I would agree. But if it lets me still have the will to want to do it, then I still have free will, even if my body isn't able to perform what my will wants.> Did the person getting tranquilized have a choice when it comes to not getting run over by a train?No, but that isn't want determines if they have free will. What determines if they have free will is if their will is free i.e. if they are free to think what they want. If they are able to think "I don't want to be hit by the train. I want to run away", then they have free will. Them being unable to act on that will due to any reason, be it magic or biological paralysis, does not change that they still have free will.
>>483448998>replies to everyone>links some fucking hour long video with no explanationnah, fuck off retard
>>483449178>I accept your concession.NTA but how come indians always say this mid argument? Is it supposed it be hindu idiom that doesn't make sense in English, or something?
>>483448919I'm at 60.But that much damage from that means you're probably not very high on scadu fragments. I was at 11 I think.Also if you're using an int build, nab carian sovereignty. It legitimately fucks it up.
>>483448739Blacksteel
str/faith or dex/faith? i'm doing a Witcher type thing with Milady. not making Geralt, i'm making my own original character named Bleralt. plan on using incants for utility/flavor and lots of grease and bombs and shit but no inherit bleed or anything on my weapon. i'm just not sure what the big difference would be between going STR vs DEX. i feel like with DEX i'd cast spells and use items faster, right?
>>483449145how the fuck did you even get to his house without realizing it might be prudent to invest in some madness defence or buffs
>>483448998bro you posted cringe
All I want to know is if Radahn is consenting to all of this bullshit and that it's really him we're fighting at the end, not Miquella's roofied meat puppet bodypillow.
>>483448562suck my cock my dude
>>483448784>First, it's specified that Miquella is VERY young.Nothing about it does that, it just says that it was in his childhood, just like the English version>Second that's not a complete or grammatical sentence, and the linebreaks create the cadence of someone struggling to find wordsAll Elden Ring item descriptions are written in the same way, it's not unique to this oneI think the entire Miquella/Radahn thing is bullshit but you're just overanalyzing it
>ride torrent for 10 minutes across a gorgeous new biome>see enemy>will it be a shadow hollow trash mob, or a poisetank wombocombo miniboss shitmob>and what were they guarding? a single arrow!This DLC actually kind of sucks dick, and I take no joy in saying that.
best rl for blue multiplayer?
>>483449083We know Radahn agreed. His boss title is Promised Consort. Other Japanese dialogue also makes this clearer.
>>483449161>summoned for radahn>host dead before I can even enter boss fight>summoned for gaius>entered boss fight host dies to charge in 1 hit>summoned for mesmer>host gets 1 shot by the initial jump attack>summoned for tree sentinel duo>host rolls off a cliff running to themSeriously I keep seeing invaders talk about how hard they have it, but when the average host seems to be more of a danger to himself than anyone else...Also these guys don't explore at all and will almost always have 0 scat fragments and always get 1 shot
>Two-handed Claymore>Two-Handed Sword Talisman: +15% damage>Cragblade: +15% damage>Knight armor>STR: Yes>INT, FTH: NoIt's gaming time.
>>483448784>rather an indicator of hesitationNot necessarily. Can be just a pause/pacing indicator.
>>483448998>watch me appeal to authority in this hour long video with some jew because I don't actually know how to articulate someone else's opinionHow about no, nigger. If you don't know what you're arguing I'm not going to do your research for you.
>>483448998
So, this shares a moveset with the crescent moon axe, possibly the greatest heavy moveset in the game.Is it worth using otherwise? how does its scaling compare? its weapon skill?
>Radahn promises to Miquella as kids that they'd rule together>Radahn gets an actual career >Miquella seethes and send Malenia over to kill Radahn>Malenia just does this loyally as a grown ass woman and even talks shit before bloooooming>Doesn't even kill him and has to wait for you to do itImagine losing harder than this
>have no problem beating all the bosses people are shitting their pants on>first one to give me actual trouble is a fucking sunflowerhuh
>>483449346If making up brown people in your mind to talk to keeps you going man, go for it.
I've never used Ashes of War in my 55 hours of playtime, as I'm afraid of losing them forever by putting them on the wrong weapon.
>>483443565
>DLC update>game keeps fucking crashingi just want to beat the Dancing Lion....
bros I want to rape Leda...
bros thats kinda fucking gay you can really tell its a michael zack game
Ok, just got to Rellana. Have died twice to her (got her down to 35% first attempt and below 50% second attempt) and she seems fair and actually fun? I'm doing a FTH/STR build with a Greatsword and heavy armor and can consistently buff myself during the first phase and shoot magic at her and still dodge her retaliations in the first phase. Have only died to the Moon attack and to her 5 magic blasts, since the 4th magic blast seems to be impossible to dodge with rolling and I'm still trying to figure it out. I guess what I'm trying to say is, are all the people crying all shitters? She's nowhere near as bad as people made it seem. If I were to switch to a meme bleed build, I'm pretty sure I could beat her effortlessly right now.
>>483449616I notice you have yet to explain your bizarre, nonsensical idiom.
i've died to this infinite poise nigger at the temple ruins probably seven times
>>483449651If this isn't bait, you can take them out of that weapon at any time you muppet.
>>483449265oh nice
Gaius' hitboxes are COMPLETELY fucking retarded. How the fuck did this piece of shit make it past QA?
>>483449651I've never drank a flask of tears. Only three of those bad boys, no way im ever using them.
>>483449651you can reuse them if you put them on a weapon. if you want you just take it off that weapon then put it on a new one, you dont lose the ashes. duplicating them is mainly for if you want to use two weapons at once with the same ash
Got Midra but which one I should get?
I want to beat Elden Ring, what are the /erg/ approved rules I need to stick to
>>483449685You can untag me in your conversation with the brown people in your brain, they're not real
>>483449668It's her voice, isn't it?
>>483430540Depends which spirit you're using. Personally I'll use a spirit if they match my build like pic related when I was doing a plant/nature themed character. Though they were kind of useless and were just trying to poison an already poisoned or poison immune boss a majority of the time. Honestly late game I found it a lot of fun to play "keep the flowers alive at all costs"
>>483449669ur gay pwnd.
>gave ansbach the scroll before even meeting freyja>he leaves>freyja stuck with the stone tablets is this salvageable by meeting ansbach again or are both questlines fucked?
>>483448693Anon, do you think a person strapped down to a chain against their will loses their free will? That's not how that works.
>>483448202why is this guy a millionaire but his house looks like a trash heap ?clean it yourself or just hire someone you fucking slob
>>483445710>He wanted to cut Maria and Ludwig from the Bloodborne DLC too, if it wasn't for Sony stopping him.citation needed
>>483449721>>483449770Wait, you can? I never knew that.
>>483449615The sunflower sucks so much. I was really enjoying the most of the DLC for not having multiple health bars but then that shithead shows up
>>483449205>ok I'll marry you>it's just a prank bro, calm downThere is a new cope for this shit every day isn't there.
>>483437680>>483444369I swear if there's some convoluted ending where we actually manage to save them it would redeem the dlc
How in the fucking hell do you beat Mesmer?The fight itself is super easy, but when he is about to die he always fucking explodes doing insane aoe damage.I have 60 vigor and lv16 blessing, and it seems impossible to survive the exlplosion. Im using both the great shield talisman and the fire +2 protection talismanBut I can't just run from there because the moment you hit him and he reaches the boiling point he basically explodes before you can finish the swing and start running.As I said, the rest of the fight, is issue, I just don't know how the fuck do I avoid certain death explossion
>>483449669Giant but hole aheadhaha
>>483447525The Marika backstory is shit. "Um she was le shaman and le hornsent genocided her it was le revenge" and then zero explanation of anything actually interesting about how she actually became a God
>>483449579weapon skill is very good if you get the second hit
>>483449772The spell kinda sucks it seems, sword is cool but also kinda sucks it seems
>>483449772i got the sword cause its a greatsword and it looks cool
>>483449762It's because he's a reskinned Tree Sentinel with AoEs slapped on, as that was faster than changing the hitboxes.|>>483449812No, go on. Explain to us what the idiom "I accept your concession" is supposed to mean, and why people like you randomly say it, for seemingly no reason.
>Marika abandoned Messmer>Malenia abandoned Moore and the pests>the Greater Will abandoned Metyr>Miquella abandoned everything>Nanaya abandoned MidraAnything else I'm missing? The only people who seem to be having a fun time are the dragons
Lorewise I couldn't give shit about any of the Michelangelo lore. Knowing more about Marika was cool though.
>>483449864Okay? And?
>Saw some anon saying Radahn doesn't have a left eye because Mohg didn't have one>Oh that's a neat detail>Get to Radahn>He has both eyesWhy do I believe anything online any more man
>>483431705bleed isn't cheese, bosses owe me their blood
>>483448517>Literally lacking free will vs having free will but no power to follow upon it are different things.I agree and if Miquella's plan was to put everyone on a short leash with shock collars, that would definitely mean everyone still had free will.But if you cannot even act in defiance then it is no longer free will, the slave wearing a shock collar can keep fighting against his restraints in protest until his body dies.A mind controlled Miquella slave would have no compulsion to do so, it would not even occur to them that resistance was an option.How can I be the master of my own destiny if I'm not actually allowed to choose how I react to a bad situation? Because life is going to give you bad situations, over and over again. Being hypno mindbroken into just coping and being "ok" with it is not an existence I would wish on my worst enemy.
insane game
>>483449929>then zero explanation of anything actually interesting about how she actually became a GodNot him, but does the whole Gate thing not count? We learn how she become one as well as how the mechanism (the gate) came to be.
>>483449907you stop seething and essaying at 4chan and just beat the fucking boss
>>483449929>"Um she was le shaman and le hornsent genocided her it was le revenge"If you're going to reply to me the least you can do is type like a human
>>483445093You didn't beat it either with your spirit ashes, summons, status effects, Physick, magic build.
I think I glitched Thiollier’s quest. Every time I reload the area or rest at this grace, it says duelist vanquished even though I’ve already beaten him.
>>483449969His god abandoned Placidusax
>>483449907you can dodge the explosion if you dodge towards him at the right moment
>>483444369But it always ends the same way, she will try to kill you. The only thing that changes is if you have bros.
>>483431343You summon that dumbfuck and tell me seeing him uselessly waving his ribbon baton around cheering you on from the sidelines didn't push you to victory.
>>483450081Oh shit I love grab attacks I wish there were more.
>>483449902>marika the eternal>little brother asks you to be his king when he replaces heranybody would assume it's a retarded premise by a sickly child who doesn't know better, especially a GO lover like Radahn
if consort radahn is the new standard for bosses (it definitely is because from soft is dead set on making every game harder than their previous dlc or game i'm done with this "franchise" completely.
>>483449969>Nanaya abandoned MidraI mean if you call dying "abandoning", sure
>>483449969Igon abandoned his legs
>>483449907Nigga your Vow of the Indomitable?
>>483449947ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
>>483449969>are the dragonsThey got abandoned by the greater will too and their age came to pass afterwards.They're probably the only species that actually got to see the glory days of the greater wills designs.
>>483450037People just make shit up and treat it as fact, specially here. The reason so many people are mindbroken over the DLC lore is because they actually believed the fanfiction they were spewing for two years.
>>483450040>But if you cannot even act in defiance then it is no longer free willSo if I numb a person's body irl, they lose their free will?
>>483431705if the boss dies and you didnt use CE or an exploit like glitching through the map, you beat the game. reminder that only autistic trannies insist you validate their unorthodox choices by playing pretend the same way they do. theyre the vast minority here, but the most vocal just like in every other sphere they infect. have fun beating the game anon!
I noticed something about the two dragon formsThe rock heart dragon form has more defense than the priestess dragon form.
>>483449907Sip your invuln flask.
>>483449815she's just so fucking dumb... you could probably tell her Miquella is guiding you to fuck and impregnate her and she'll believe it...
WEEBS NEVER WINFUCK YOU OP
So what are (you)r thoughts on the DLC and how does it compare to base game Elden Ring?
>>483450249>fromsoft too pussy to actually let players have the frenzied flame fire head because......idk it might be a spoiler?
>>483442589All the buildup from getting out of that fucking random catacomb to the forest to the destroyed manor paid off
>>483450152Bayle is not Placi's god, he always hated those 4 limbed rejects and hates Bayle so fucking much he passed down dragon communion out of pure spite.
>Miquella is evil Frenzychads won
How hard do you think would it be for a base level prophet invader twink to beat the Inquisitor?That madness torch is luring me, gives me unholy thoughts...
>>483449343Free will doesn't exist. The video explains the complex reasoning behind this fact. But here you go, I'll at least have ChatGPT do the heavy lifting here using the transcript and having it explain why in only 2 concise and perfectly articulated paragraphs:>Robert Sapolsky argues that free will does not exist primarily due to the deterministic nature of human behavior shaped by biology and environment. He posits that every decision a person makes can be traced back to preceding factors beyond their control, such as genetics, upbringing, and societal influences. From a biological standpoint, Sapolsky highlights how the brain's structure and function dictate our thoughts, emotions, and actions. The frontal cortex, responsible for complex decision-making, undergoes prolonged maturation influenced by experiences and environmental stimuli. This delayed development suggests that even seemingly independent choices are shaped by neural processes established long before the decision point.>Moreover, Sapolsky critiques the concept of emergent properties in complex systems, arguing against the notion that free will could arise spontaneously from interactions between simpler components like neurons. He draws parallels between emergent behaviors in biological systems (e.g., ant colonies) and the human brain's ability to generate consciousness and societal norms. However, he contends that these emergent phenomena do not imply true autonomy or free will but rather complex outcomes derived from deterministic rules governing each component. Therefore, Sapolsky's perspective challenges the traditional philosophical and ethical foundations of free will, asserting that while individuals may feel a sense of agency, their decisions ultimately reflect the culmination of biological processes and environmental influences beyond conscious control.
>>483450085>We learn how she become one as well as how the mechanism (the gate) came to be.Source: I made it up
>>483450081That's so much better than the incantation, I am mildly jelly.
What is the closest thing to "you didn't beat the game" but still counts as "you did beat the game"?
>>483449762His shittiest move is that stupid like 6+ hit thrashing he does the Boar and ends with his lancing you.All of his gravity moves are very punishable, you just want to pretty much run away when he decides to thrash because dodging it is iffy.The Charge is also aids depending on how close you are too him when he does it.I thought he was the best of the mounted fights in the game but that is not a very high bar.
Oven
>>483450345I'm going to wait until it is on sale and I've beaten the base game at least once before buying it.
>>483450360It shows up in Frenzy Village so you could even just call it like "Maddening Void" or some shit and just hint at the connection in the description
>>483450475mimic tear
What used to be said against someone literally cheating is now being said about people using the tools the game gives to you. Usually with irony, but still.
>>483449963@ing me about your obsession with brownoids won't make the reply you want appear>usThere's other voices in your head aside from the brown people? What characters are in there?
>ChatGPT faggots openly spamming the thread with paragraphs of reddit garbage
>>483431705there's no way that pic is a real conversation
>>483450475nothing because weebs don't get to gate keep anything
>>483443629The NPC is as much of a tool as the weapon you're using. If you really want to stick with your convictions, naked rl1 punch-only malenia.
>>483450475killing EB and dying at the same time
>>483450491That thing killed both me and the centaur crucible.
>>483450387>read the messages telling you to turn back or get your shit pushed in>read the messages about how theres something there that will kill you that you cant kill>look around for 20 minutes, even though i dont find them im still shitting myself looking aroundwhen will miyazaki just make a straight up horror game, bloodborne was as close as we got
>>483450543>nothing was riskedwhat are you fucking risking by playing a game? what a stupid faggot
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>>483449969Aren’t the dragons in their feelings over Godwyn being dead?
>>483450457You are saying that Marika didn't get her power from the Gate of Divinity or that the Gate was made from the sacrifices of the Hornsent's victims?
>>483450475Putting a single point into Arcane.
>>483448963Carian thrusting shield is unironically the strongest DLC weapon. Absolutely trivializes pve, apparently also broken in pvp too but I haven't tried it.Greatshield-tier block that does stupid damage and stagger while being completely safe.
>>483450475Summoning two other players + Mimic Tear at max skibidis level where everyone is using powerstance bleed GUTS and jump attacking.
>>483450576You realize that not everyone who replies to your is the same person, correct? This is an anonymous website where people can hop into conversations as they please.Are you schizophrenic? You've been really stuck on this "brownoid" thing and I don't know why.
Man it's so fucking easy ot get infinite healing, I have 3 messages with 400+ downvotes. Redditors cannot fucking help themselves. They see hidden path ahead they downvote
>>483450543Thw thing is I actually hate this game, and I only wish scadoodles let me turn on different cheat codes like infinite poise or byrn them at the bonfire to skip the next boss.
>>483450680We're on page 4 you retard, why are you in such a fucking rush all the time?
First time in my life I resorted to light rolling. Whoever designed that charge can eat a dick.
>>483450345abysmal dogshit
>>483450452>I'll at least have ChatGPT do the heavy lifting hereI understand you're trolling and I won't deny its effectiveness seeing the replies you're getting, but I miss when trolling took effort.
Considering try to use the great katana with frost against radahn to see if that helps instead of my frost GS, I'm fucking struggling I don't even know what ash of war to use, giant hunt seems like the only thing that does good enough damage for the short opening I have
When the leaks first dropped people where discussing "god" splitting into Greater Will and something else, what was that based on? Is there some cut dialogue related to GW?
Has the overall community discovered how disgustingly busted rolling sparks is yet? If you want to plow through the DLC I suggest you use it before it gets nerfed
>>483450289i think the only problem, specifically because it breaks the boss AI which is literally unable to handle more than 1 opponent, is summoning anything. you have to be the only target every time.beyond that? go nuts. i think that's fair. also by summon i mean in offline mode, not your level 713 frens, but i guess it doesn't matter. beat the game yourself with no other targets besides yourself. everything else is fair game. you want to use bleed, rot, magic, shit like moonveil or RoB? you do you, my dude. have a blast.
>>483450278Stephen Hawking is a pretty good example of why your argument falls flat.Again you're pretending that what Miquella does is physical, when it is entirely mental.Give me one example that involves a mental compulsion without it being super fucking creepy, I'll wait.
>golem fist is the coolest Smithscript weapon>it's also the shittiest by far
>>483450040>A mind controlled Miquella slave would have no compulsion to do so, it would not even occur to them that resistance was an option.What if they mentally can oppose, but can't actually take actions in accordance with that opposition? That is still free will. Will is mind, not action.
>>483443925She has a little bit of mistrust on others...
>>483450843What even is it and where do i get it?
>>483450837People thought the FF was on the same level as the GW but apparently not. It's honestly not a big deal in the grand scheme of things since the GW could always fart out another Elden Ring if it wanted to, only our planet is fucked
>>483450345I like the map more: smaller and more compact and more visually interestingBosses are overtuned and I can see the Scadutree Blessings being an absolute chore on replay
>Beat Radahn after hours>End screen is literally just picrelThanks Fromsoft
>have to get 5 more scadu levelsThe fucking hunt for these is going to be fucking awful even with a guide, I haven't a fucking Scooby Doo which ones I got or didn't
>>483450434I think it would be perfectly doable. It would probably suck but Mohg would probably be more difficult. Off the top of my head.>get a low tier greatshield to block the projectiles you aren't comfortable with blocking>get Scadutree fragments>get ash fragments>summon black knife waifu>always kill the fat summon because he ruins every fight but ignore the rest>get an ash of war that closes the gap because he is a teleporting motherfucker>or just password summon
Anyone try the Curseblade Cirque? It's pretty fun
>rushed the dlc in fresh save, starting to struggle after my first few bossesAlright, time to go grab giant hunt & the greatsword.
>>483450837Other way around. The Greater Will split the One Great into a distinct universe. They weren't the same thing. Flame of Frenzy wants to melt it back into the One Great.
>>483450345I enjoyed it more than most of the base game until I got to the final boss
>I have done it allwhat do I do now? I guess I just wait with the bloodborne on PC crowd. I weep, for there are no more worlds to conquer.
>>483450843>If you want to plow through the DLCI don't get why anyone feels the desire to do this. Abusing overpowered mechanics earns you nothing but a hollow victory and you are only robbing yourself.
>>483443676Someone fucking gets it. This game goes beyond just being a game, into solid metaphor for life and the human experience. Miquella was the fucking avatar of sustainable abundance and learning from the past to forge a better future. Paired with Godwyn, he would have been a god of all living and unliving things, graceful and malign. A god able even to resurrect the destined dead. A jesus expy if ever there was one.Paired with the Tarnished, the avatar of unrelenting determination, his order would have integrated that human spirit, and made it more human and present.He represents the light of Hope. Real, capital-h Hope. The faith in a brighter kinder future wrought by our own hands.It isn't a far off dream. It is possible. You are one of the only ones I've seen also take this lesson to heart. That's the will of the Tarnished I suppose. "You were too weak hearted to do it right, so I will do it instead." We're Sam to Frodo. We can't carry the ring, but we can carry the dream, and press onwards.'Force your way down a path you choose to take and do it all yourself' to quote a different medium with the same basic idea
>>483451190I will try. The area beyond him is just too good for a madness twink.Midra is probably out of question though.
>>483451207I like both the cirque quite a bit desu.
>>483450832AI is just too fucking useful. just got the first boil of my life on the inside of my buttcheek and was able to learn everything i needed to know about it and how to treat it from GPT. honestly just biding my time until universal basic income becomes a thing or they genocide the common people because they don't need them any more with wuflu 2.0. either way i don't have to go to work the next day. who needs most doctors/lawyers/accountants/financial advisors when you have AI? they're already putting robots with AI in fast food restaurants, call centers are being replaced by AI, the list goes on literally wtf is anyone gonna do for work a decade from now? you don't even need to take 100% of the jobs, remember the great depression had an unemployment rate of less than 25%.
>>483443676>>483451347
>>483449579I dunno man at 50/50 the damage really isn't impressive. The skill is cool but that's it.
How do I get the secret ending?
>>483448859>stack focusHonestly madness was surprisingly not an issue. In all my attempts I think I only got it once or twice.Great fight though.
>>483450345>DLCIt sucks>Compared to ERWorse experience
>>483451080>What if they mentally can oppose, but can't actually take actions in accordance with that opposition?Except we LITERALLY see how it works with all the NPCs, them being mindbroken by Miquella and then being freed is the main fucking plot.You can't headcanon away the actual story you self-deluding pedo.
>>483450950>Stephen Hawking is a pretty good example of why your argument falls flat.The opposite. According to you, he lacks free will since he can't move.>Again you're pretending that what Miquella does is physical, when it is entirely mental.You are conflating the argument, The method of control is mental in that he is stopping the mind from commanding the body. But he isn't changing the person's thinking. They are free to think as they want. They therefore have free will. However, they cannot act on everything their free will would compel their body to perform,>Give me one example that involves a mental compulsion without it being super fucking creepy, I'll wait.Goalpost shifting. Creepyness isn't the argument.
>>483450452>Schizo babble
>>483451493be japanese
>>483447713>Literally and unironically true and Based beyond beliefIt was never about the shota, it was about what he represented. Even the candle tree prophecy. A candle to light the way in the darkness
>>483450289No one except reddit and twitter trannies actually care about what you useThere are tools in the game, use them People that actually fucking seethe about not beating the game "their" way is the most cringe shitJust use what's fun or what works, if your happy you beat the boss then that's all that matters
>>483448859I just beat him and yeah, he's a very honest boss fight. I couldn't get the timing down for dodging the big explosion on phase 2 but other than that he's very fair. Great fight. Didn't even need extra focus, madness only proced a couple times and those were when I died anyway.
Quick general consensus on the ending? I just finished
>>483451580>But he isn't changing the person's thinking.It gets penned out specifically through the NPCs quest dialogue, that is exactly what he does when he steals someones heart.The lord of fucking frenzy does not bend the knee even if he suddenly agrees with Miquella.
>>483449520What other dialogue clears up the consort bit?
>>483448859You don't even need much frenzy res unless your armor has it really low, I just had basic shit and as long as you dodge his projectiles properly (which are really easy to dodge) you won't get frenziedI thought there would be some additional frenzy buildup, either from every hit of his sword or just being close to him
I think Miquella deserved to die, but so does everyone else
>>483451526>my ideal pastime is posting in generals for games I hate
>Everyone vanishes for no reason>Hours later they all apparently hate me even Needle womanGREAT STORYTELLINGVERY IMMSERSIVE
>>483451896it's shitall the intriguing premises hinted at (eclipse, godwyn, crucible of life, the nature of the alien womb marika took the golden arc from) were cut and replaced with gay mind control incest and a simple revenge story
>>483437472>gay
>>483451503he's got that big move where he shoots a duplicate of his head at you, if you're already at like half health and half madness it will 100% kill you if it connects
>>483449382i unga bunga'd my way therealso the game encourages you to stealth past those unkillable freaks with the instant madness spell
>>483451964It's something he can do. He doesn't have to go full "free will" gone if he chooses. In the events of the game, he isn't doing his end goal of allowing free will. He is taking an ends justifies the means approach and his fully controlling people not just to avoid actions he doesn't like, but to perform actions they otherwise wouldn't.
>>483452326you can kill those guys by parrying them which takes away their shield then riposting them and hitting them. also im pretty sure you can just run away from them since they despawn back to their original spots after a while of chasing you
>>483452283Miquella should've just picked Mohg as his consort, it would've saved everyone so much trouble
>>483449547how do you have fun playing with only 1 attack through the whole game? r2 everything and thats its you people don't even get curious about trying something else its always the same playstyle the only thing that changes is the weapon
as much as I enjoyed Elden Ring I hope it won't get a sequel and instead FromSoft just does new IPs
If you're in an overworld area that has the ability to ash summon, and you pop a furlong. Will the ash summon also attack the invader?I just had the funny notion of sending Tiche at invaders for fun.
>>483451556>You can't headcanon away the actual story>you self-deluding pedo.I can't beat you in a headcanoning competition. You have me thoroughly beat on that front.
>>483450452>The frontal cortex, responsible for complex decision-making, undergoes prolonged maturation influenced by experiences and environmental stimuli.Not even most free will proponents argue against this. Read into the subject more and think critically about the concept. Most modern philosophers and scientists like Sapolsky can't even reach a consensus about what free will entails, much less test it empirically.
>>483431928Actually incredibly detailed. And they're used JUST for a cutscene. How cute.
Why do some people not like Bayle? Fight is pure kino except for the weird wing hurtboxes.Do they not bring Igon? Do they rob themselves of the company of this absolute legend?
>>483451612I accept your concession.
>fire knight in the rafters with a ranged wrath of godMIYAZAKI YOU CUNT
>>483451347>>483443676Most blatant samefag I've seen in yearsAlso Ranni is still a hopeful and kind end.Also the new stuff about Marika makes any ending where you become her consort a gentler affair as well, unless you headcanon you're gonna start putting omen statues around her bedchambers or something.
>>483452516>He doesn't have to go full "free will" gone if he choosesPure headcanon, I'm done wasting my time on you.
>>483453184Not everyone under Miquella's influence was full brainwashed. How is that headcanon?
>>483453174Get bent nerd. Real knows real
>>483451717Yep. I think the most telling thing is that they have the audacity think you or I care what the fuck they think. it would be hilarious if it wasnt so cringey
>>483451347Brilliantly put. What people don't realize is just as there are physical battles with guns, knives, fists and economies there are also spiritual battles being waged as we speak. By controlling the media we consume, they control the story we are collectively writing as a humanity. Sow seeds of dissension to ensure no absolute peace is recognized, where the controllers (corpos) are allowed to cling to power because they make the avatars of virtue, love, light and messianic renewal the antagonists in our stories; allowing the spirit of destruction on behalf of the rotting state to continue hijacking the unconscious of the populus to make it unknowingly wish for a purgatory and thus a continuance of an Age of Fire, while turning them against one another forcibly dragging one another back into the kiln.
>>483452924>no uI accept your concession.
>>483452321yeah, but it's slow and has a surprisingly small aoe, I'm not sure if he's ever hit me with that
>>483451345completionists are weird, man. same with speedrunners. fun should always be the highest value in video games, collecting everything or finishing it as fast as possible shouldn't be done at the cost of fun.i wouldn't keep fighting the dancing lion faggot for 3 hours if it wasn't fun for me. killing bosses like they're nothing is boring to me, i will nerf myself until im forced to actually learn the moveset, which especially in this DLC is actually legitimately difficult.
>>483453362I can't concede when you didn't bother bring up an argument aside from the objectively false "they are all mindbroken" claim. You aren't even trying to argue seriously.
>>483453347>miquellapedos think being able to fuck little boys would bring would bring world peaceYou can't make this shit up.
>>483452690>picking an Omenhe never would have
>>483453581This DLC has revealed an uncomfortable amount of pedos in the ER community.
Zanzibart...
>>483453362>it is possible for a mind controlled person to have free will, but not be able to act on it>Only a pedo would believe this???
Man it's insane that Oleg is the best spirit ash in the game, shame they couldn't make anything cooler or stronger than him.
>>483453347Perhaps then we are in the equivalent of Ranni's age. allegorically speaking. The light is still there, but you have to look for it. Not the worst of outcomes, but certainly not the best. Little by little though. Andor got it right, "Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Oppression is the mask of fear. And there will come a day when it will be one too many. Remember this, try."
Does Freyja's quest bug out? She says this and I'm supposed to be able to go down and ask Ansbach for a letter, but there's no option to
>>483453063the first time I didn't bring Igon but the fight was still really fun, just play unlocked if the camera is an issue
Anri from DS3 mogs Leda so hard as a waifu NPC it's not even funny.
>>483448784where are you getting japanese dlc text? want to look some stuff up
>>483453916DS3 mogs ER
>>483453878You gotta give a thing to Ansbach first.
Is this the only way to progress? I tried using stuff like the concoction or the lulling branch, would have thrown eternal sleep pots at him it you could do it in that place, but alas.He makes it pretty clear that he doesn't want to hear that.
>>483453362Aren't you the guy who earlier was arguing that being immobilized but still having your mental facilities in order mean you don't have free will (>>483447921), and then changed his mind later (>>483450040)?
>>483453878You have to go and find the scroll elsewhere then give it to Ansbach. Keep going down.
>>483454102that's how you progress him correctly, yes.his quest line REQUIRES him to be a cuck.
>>483454102Don't worry. He'll be mad for a little while but he'll realize you're right in the end. He's not stupid.
>>483453009the issue as usual is semantics and a priori assumptions. things like materialism and determinism are a priori assumptions that you can't actually prove. the main issue is that there's simply a ton of shit we don't know, and science is mostly for practical purposes.we're never really gonna know what happened at/before the big bang, or what goes on inside a black hole past the event horizon. sapolsky still hasn't solved the hard problem of consciousness. there are huge wikipedia lists on "unsolved problems of [scientific discipline]" of all the shit no one fucking understands and may never be able to fully prove.you don't even know if the outside world exists, or anyone else is conscious besides you. you assume it's true a priori because it works and you couldn't really function otherwise, but you don't *know*. the simple answer is that there are big limitations to human logic and reason, and there's so much stuff we don't know and likely never will be able to know.
>>483452805I like when they make them have some semblance of a story like sekiro but they should move away from Georgie and just use cheaper, harder working writers again.
>>483454102This guy cucked himself to death solely because he didn't go up to St. Trina and drink her poison straight from the tap. What an idiot.
>>483454115>but still having your mental facilitiesBut you quite clearly don't under Miquella's influence.If I am the living embodiment of hate, rage and bile and only seek to defile all that I see. This can only result in two things:Option A: You don't even realize you're being mind controlled, so you stop doing bad things like you never wanted to.Option B: Resentment and rage will build into a boiling point until you erupt into a chaos lord, I don't think Miquella has enough needles for everyone.Becoming a god doesn't give you infinite resources or make you all powerful, Marika still needed a standing army to curb stomp all her adversaries.
>>483453878Look for a key item, it's behind some bookshelf, path is from the 4th floor of the storehouse.BTW, CUTE meli meli! CUTEEE
>>483438905>Ah, i see its the same type of stand as Star Platinum
>>483453581>>483453717Okay I'll bite. We see him physically twice. The first dlc trailer with the cutscene that isn't in the game, where he looks lanky af. And the final boss, where he doesn't look young at all aside. His model has hips wider than his shoulders. Homophobes need to get the f over it at this point
>>483453772Miquella's charms aren't mind control. That's another post-compromised Fromcrap retcon. His presence, similar to Buddha or Christ, inspires love and devotion quelling all feelings of hatred or bitterness. It's like if a seraphim were to descend onto this Earth during a war, the combatants would drop their weapons, ask for forgiveness and follow a path of virtue and love after witnessing something so radiant.Even when we're discussing the Bewitching Branch, think of it as a way of Miquella to avoid hurting others without having to use the Golden Order incantations he's doubtless capable of wreaking havoc with during the Shattering.The salvation he offers is legitimate, as he not only manages to quell the Rot of an Outer God successfully, but provides sanctuary to those lost and without a home to return to.
>>483454539>But you quite clearly don't under Miquella's influence.In the comment I linked, you weren't just talking about Miquella. You were speaking in general. You literally were saying that if you (not a Miquella slave, an actual irl person) were unable to act to prevent your death (even if you thinking that you wanted to), it means you don't have free will. Then later, you changed your mind and said that actually, in that scenario, it would mean you have free will.
>>483454765>christcuck logicCringe.
>>483438541Yes
>>483454102I told him the truth of itHe then attacked me. I gave him a bit of a spanking and he's alive but he ultimately accepted St Trina's words though he's horrified by what she asked us to do. Now he's just moaning on the floor. Unsure if he's gonna die once I progress the game enough or if he's just still very high and he'll snap out of it.Regardless of all that, I hate that storyline. I don't wanna cuck the poor guy. Feels like absolute fucking shit.
>>483454765>Miquella's charms aren't mind control.I know that, but he can do both. I am just saying that simply stating the fact that Miquella, or any mind controller, can mind control in a non-total manner doesn't make someone a pedo.
>>483454765The fucking word Numen even means 'divine presence', it's like people see the 'incest lmao' and miss the mythological and even esoteric parallels in this game. This was a masterpiece, but that finale..."Uses love as a weapon" as in diplomacy. He can convince you to not do what you wanted to do. Which in a world of warlords is terrifying. Or at least that's what it would have been
>>483454995Is it cucking if he never had a chance to begin with?
>>483453540>same with speedrunnersNobody just speedruns a game out of the box.
>>483430631gameplay: 8/10story and characters: 3/10. would be 1/10 without BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLE
>>483455170>The fucking word Numen even means 'divine presence'Not in the Japanese, so not canonical.
>never explained
>>483455194He did have a chance. He was just cowardly/physically weak to drink her poison directly.
GET SMOTE GET SMOTE GET SMOTE
>>483453581>>483453717I unironically think that having a Miquella ending in Elden Ring with the good writing present in the base game would've brought the world far closer to deliverance, yes.Instead post-compromised Fromcrap has the Tarnished go about killing the cherubim of salvation so that spiritually they remain as the Agent Smiths fighting to keep the kiln burning.
>>483430631BAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYLLLLLLE: 10/10Frenzy Forest: 8/10Everything else: 6/10Radahn: 1/100
>>483455467Frenzy forest would've been a 10 if it wasn't so incomplete and the stealth sections were designed better
>>483454883I don't go to /erg/ to discuss free will in general retard, I come here to discuss Elden Ring lore.The discussion was about Miquella and some fags saying that he could totally compel everyone to not be violent with no side effects, like for example losing your free will. Taking an argument out of context just makes you look like an idiot who forced themselves into a conversation without understanding what is being talked about.
>every ending retconned into being shit except frenzyThanks.
>>483455467based
who's making the new thread?
>>483455770It's already up and at 290
>>483455289grrm wrote the lore and history, from just made the game. Numen is the canonical term
>>483455886these faggots need to learn to wait until page 10 ffs
Either of these any good?
>>483455619>Taking an argument out of contextI didn't take it out of context. You were the one who gave the train example as context for the point.>If a train is barreling towards you but you aren't allowed to act in a way that would prevent your death, do you have free will? No your choice was made for you.Was your scenario. You are trying to argue that if you have your thinking intact, but you can't act on it, that means you don't have free will. That is what you were arguing for in that post. And you were trying to apply it to the case of Miquella.
>>483456024the spell is completely worthless but i've heard good things about the weapon
>>483456024the spell is funny but the weapon is great
>>483456217i guess if you're a pvpfag you might get some use out of it, but if you wanted a AOE spell for clearing mobs there are better options, particularly if you're already INT/FTH
>>483453874Yes, that's the most important thing. No matter how much From fucks up their metaphysics, the avatar of renewal and peace will appear again, and they will have a complete victory one day.Salvation is inevitable for one pressing forward no matter the outer circumstance, and extending his hand toward the sky in hope.
Does the crucible wings ash of war damage scale with faith?
>>483455924>grrm wrote the lore and historyMisconception. He provided ideas that the actual writers and lorists used. I.e. he was a source of inspiration, not actually the writer of anything.
>>483454539>But you quite clearly don't under Miquella's influence.How can you say this when not every NPC under his influence is a minddead slave to him? He clearly has levels to the control. It's not all or nothing.
>>483455315Nice. What's your build? Dex/fth or full faith? If so, how is Messmer's spear with little dex?
>>483456129And the counter argument was always a physical example which is completely retarded.There's a big difference between having a mental compulsion that stops you from doing something that might save your life, and having someone else tranquilize you with drugs.It's retarded to bring up any physical element when the discussion is about free WILL.
>>483456678My free will shall not be impeached by faggots who want to label certain parts as dangerous.Is that simple enough for you?
>>483457206>There's a big difference between having a mental compulsion that stops you from doing something that might save your life, and having someone else tranquilize you with drugs.(I'm the other guy you're arguing with) But it's not different from the perspective of free will. The person still has free will in both cases. As long as they can still THINK something that isn't in accordance to Miquella, they still have free will, even if they can't act on it. Like I said earlier, doesn't matter if it is magic or biological paralysis (here read "physical restraint").
>>483445980>boar he called the other halfYou just know
>>483457757>As long as they can still THINK something that isn't in accordance to Miquella, they still have free willAnd you don't see any possible scenario, where being able to think but being perpetually unable to act on it, might create a great deal of resentment in a greater part of the population who I remind you include the FUCKING HORNSENT and shining beacons of morality like the dung eater.Because I don't think he's got enough needles for everyone.
>>483457397>who want to label certain parts as dangerous.What are you talking about?>Is that simple enough for you?No, because it doesn't address that there are being who are affected by Miquella, yet are not braindead slaves like Radahn.
>>483447964Were AS elder brothersNot LITERALLY elder brothers (well Messmer kind of is but besides the point)READ NIGGA! READ!
>>483458286I was never arguing resentment or if is morally good or justified. I was just arguing that if they can think freely (even if they can't act on it), that's still free will. Free will with constraints on action is liable to cause resentment, but just because it might be a bad thing doesn't change the fact that it still those affected persons still have free will.
>>483458376>What are you talking about?Violence and the will to act on it, you know the thing you spend the entire game doing?
>>483458845Oh, by "parts" you meant "aspects of will". Got it.Your free will isn't being impeached upon. It's your freedom to take action on that will. Or at least, Miquella can decide to do that. He also can decide to actually take your free will. Different NPCs had different results.
>>483458665>I was just arguing that if they can think freely (even if they can't act on it), that's still free will.You're going to have to block a whole lot more than just anger to get a peaceful world. No matter how pacified you make the population if they actually have free will, they'll either find ways around it, or they'll go to great lengths of desperation even to the detriment of their own health or life just to say "fuck you" when someone mindblocks them from acting how they want.
>>483459256>Good little boys who do what Miquella wants wont get brainwashed into zombies, because he can control them just fine with less direct control.And now we get to the crutch of the issue.
>>483459276>You're going to have to block a whole lot more than just anger to get a peaceful world.On the contrary, you don't even need to block the anger. If they are anger, but you mentally block them for acting on it, there is still not conflict since it can't be acted out.>No matter how pacified you make the population if they actually have free will, they'll either find ways around it, or they'll go to great lengths of desperation even to the detriment of their own health or life just to say "fuck you" when someone mindblocks them from acting how they want.If he allows for loopholes, then sure, but theoretically, it wouldn't be difficult to do that. He in addition to preventing you from acting on anger could also prevent your from taking any action you are cognizant would constitute some sedition against him (again, this is a prohibition against actions being taken, not the thoughts).
>>483459736>Just bottle up your emotions, what could possibly be wrong? Surely this will work when it's forcefully done to you.>It's not mind control, you just can't do anything Miquella disagrees with and he'll block you from even feeling it.So yeah brainwashed zombies.I don't trust the squirt to make the right choices considering the things he's done in the past, especially considering how well things turned out for his mom.
>>483460104>and he'll block you from even feeling it.I am contesting this part of your claim (I think he'd let them feel it, but not act on it, at least for some thoughts like the desire to kill), but I get that you doubt he would have the restraint.
>people mad about MiqueDahn>calls us lord of the old order>Miquella wants to take another path (progressivism)>we kill the faggots FUCKING BASED!
>>483460623Here's the problem, if you can feel it, then the outer gods can get their slippery fingers in just like it happened in the last age.If you can't feel it, then how is the thought any different from random thoughts that pop into your head? Wondering what balsa wood tastes like while you're in the shower doesn't mean you have free will.Being a fucking madlad and actually chewing on some and then writing a scathing review on the internet is how you can tell the person has the free will to make bad choices.Because otherwise you're just delegating all difficult choices to Miquella like some sort of hive mind.And I will remind you if people can still act on it, but in less obvious ways then loopholes will be found by crafty assholes. Gods aren't omniscient and all knowing in Elden ring. If the only way around his mindbreaking is to ram fucking pain rods into your brain and scream BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE as you lobotomize yourself, you can betcha some hornset asshole will do it.
Free will doesn't exist because I hate that my ACKshin have consequences.
