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Seluvis Did Nothing Wrong edition

>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-112
>skibidi update
https://www.eldenring.jp/newsdetail/news_detail_240626_1.html

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg
>Previous
>>483537475
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*REMINDER*

The people crying that anyone who beats the DLC now won't have beaten the game because of the scudatree buff are doing so because they have used the scudatree blessings so this change directly changes their game experience so they believe they are now superior.

*HOWEVER*

They have unwittingly revealed by proxy that they used scudatree blessings when the real gamers who never used them see that this change does not mean anything to them and they are still able to actually beat the game as they didn't directly change the bosses. Anyone saying that you are now no longer able to beat the game did not beat the game themselves as they imbibed the scudatree.

YDBTG
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>>483550756
mega based
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In this moment, I am euporic
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I just noticed the Haligtree has a face.
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Marry carian women and make big happy families with them!
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SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE VILE BAYLE
BREAK YOUR BACKS, CRACK YOUR HARPOONS MEN
IF YOU WISH TO PREVAIL
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>>483550978
CURSE YOU BAYLE!
I HEREBY VOW, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!
BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR! AND I, IGON!
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Age of Stars >= Age of Fracture = Age of Order >> Age of Duskborn > Age of Compassion > Age of Compassion > Flame of Frenzy > Age of Dung
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The most aggraviating thing about the whole story is that we only get to interact with Miquella during the final fight.
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the game is not replayable because it takes 20 hours to find the skibidis even with a guide because you get blocked by bosses because it's not actually open world.
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tfw didn't someone for any boss so I missed stuff like Igor
why miyazaki
why
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I am really trying to like Great Katanas, but the moveset is kind of ass.
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The new throwing weapons are insanely strong and work great using multiple at once. They also scale hard with talismans. Highly recommend the axe and spear combo.

That is it.
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Shoutout to my boy Dung Eater. He tanks bosses like a champ.
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>>483550929
Post you RL1 no upgrade, no consumables, no scuda run beating Radahn.
You did beat him right? You aren't just making shit up to try and collect (you)'s right?
Or are you just a greatshield shitter who's in deep regret over the fact that you in fact, did not beat Radahn?
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>>483550929
Kill yourself.
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>Finished all quests
>killed all bosses
>Got every piece of equipment, sorcery and miracle I wanted
>Just killed Radahn
>Not interested in online play in the slightest
What now?
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>ETERNAL SLEEP POT
>Throw it at the hornsent dancer thing
>He just shrugs it off
...
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>>483551058
because my life is hollow and empty
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I really wish there was more interaction with the Band of Miquella. I really like all of them but we get so little from characters like Moore and Freyja and Dane
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>>483551052
I had 14 blessings before Messmer, only having killed Divine beast and Renalla
You can skip both of them
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Bayle is by far the most fun boss I've come across in the DLC so far and is actually incredible fair with well telegraphed attacks and nothing too crazy.
Second only to midir as best dragon boss in the series since they finally remembered that what made midir fantastic was the fact that you were encouraged to stay in-front of him to hit the head. Something that they seemed to have forgotten in elden ring again until now.
Also people crying about him being unfair etc are all just really fucking bad and should shut the fuck up and learn a bosses moves before they start whinging like a milk sop.
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>>483551134
Play Bison in SF6
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>>483551134
Do it all over again but on a different build.
Or move on.
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>>483551052
>talks like a redditor
>exaggerates like a redditor
Anyone using the word "skibidi" after this post shall be branded a redditor
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>>483551134
NG+ to use your new toys on the old bosses.
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>>483551226
Not touching that ugly ass game with a 10 foot pole, it looks worse than SF4 somehow
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I just want my kicking moveset...
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>>483551134
now u get topped on grindr
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>>483551093
the range is shit on axe
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>leda with all her possible allies and you with yours
holy fucking kino
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>>483551093
how about the smithscript hammer? is it good?
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>>483551004
I like it when he calls me Drake Warrior. It's nice to have an appreciative NPC instead of miserable douchebags.
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boss weapons kind of ass this time around innit
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>>483551115
>>483551125
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I TOTALLY BEAT THE GAME USING MY SKIBIDI FRAGMENTS MY RUN IS VALID BECAUSE IT WAS BEFORE THEY PATCHED IT EVEN THOUGH IM USING THE LITERAL DIFFICULTY DOWN ITEM
YDBTG
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What's the most fun invasion level and area nowadays?
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igon is my favorite npc in the game
>>483551201
i did him after radahn and i was just so spent, so i used mimic tear and a bleed weapon
was feeling abused from several previous bosses
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>>483551353
Messmer's Spear is alright.
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i'm doing a no skibidi run and it's really not that bad
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>>483550734
Nah I'm a marikasimp she's my wife. I just actually understand my beloved and accept her for what she is. She's a mentally ill dictatorial goddess as fickle as the gods of our mythology and as chaotic as them as well. She's the ideal woman who falls to all of woman's faults and doesn't make excuses. She knows what she is. She doesn't deny it. She embraces what she is, she's true to herself, and that's something few people are ingame and irl. This is why I love marika and this is what makes her good and inspirational. Ever since I fell in love with marika 2 years ago I've embraced what I am too, and guess what? I'm more mentally stable now and I stopped being a NEET and got a job like I know she would've wanted me to. I love marika.
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Ah-ha, your intuition serves you well. My doubts had been piling up, you seeā€¦ The words of the Two Fingers cannot be trusted. Truly, naught but rambling, senile delusions. I believe, that when the Elden Ring was shattered, the Two Fingers were corrupted, their guidance; skewed. Even worse, the Fingers harbor no love for our kind. That's the part that irks the most.

APOLOGIZE
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>play casters exclusively in ER
>pure faith through DLC
>acquire a lot of cool weapons, not a lot of cool spells
is it worth playing through again as a melee build? i literally never tried before and i dont want to feel like kms trying to learn it in the dlc
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>>483551134
I'm at Radahn and also having done about everything in the DLC
I'm going to take a break for a day then try a second run with a new build
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>>483551376
Iron Keep bridge.
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>>483551387
CURSE YOU BAYLE
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>>483551387
You've robbed yourself of one extremely fun and well designed fight.
You've only done yourself a disservice here.
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>bluh bluh this game is soooo easy
play ng+7
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>>483551416
ARC build so I excitedly upped the cleaver to +10 and then equipped it only to see how awful the aesthetic / moveset were
idk what I was thinking
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>>483551183
I want more interactions with Leda. I want her and the Tarnished to get super close to each other. I want her to start trusting him as much as she trusts Miquella. I want her to be on the verge of tears when she realizes what he is and what he plans to do. I want her to be in complete despair as he slaughters the rest of her comrades when she tries to stop him. I think that would be pretty funny.
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>Shattered stone increases kick damage
>there is a martial art that only uses kicks
time to cosplay as hwoarang.
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>>483551457
I also love marika, anon
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>>483551353
metyr head is okey
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>>483551085
I told you fucks they were gonna suck but noooooooo
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>>483551550
This but unironically
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why the fuck does the smithscript axe do absolutely unholy amounts of fucking damage
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>>483551335
Its quite literally the longest heavy attack in the game you're a goose.

>>483551339
Yeah, probably the best of the lot if you're not spear greatshield poking. The charge attack does a lot of poise damage hits in a 360 and then throws the hammer a decent way. It gives you a reliable way to stagger without putting yourself in melee range as well.

Also fun to chase pvpers down. They dont expect you to sprint into a spin and hammer throw.
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>>483551585
the nu-bloodhound fang is good
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>>483551376
everyone but the sweaties are like 170+ midway through the DLC.
i was invading from the bonfire after the gold bird knight. it's an easy area to navigate and no boss everyone is zoning in to kick you out
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>Jump shots
>Double tapping with a quick shot after landing
>Roll shots
>Huge burst damage fan shot skill
This shit is fun.
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>>483551201
i had a ton of fun in that fight, even though i raped him with ancient dragon lightning. it was a short but intense battle, and lots of death along the way
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>>483551192
HOW DID YOU GET TO SKIBIDI 14 BEFORE MESSMER?
IVE BEEN USING A GUIDE AND IM STILL ONLY AT 11
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>>483551586
I wasn't being ironic.
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I won, but at what cost?
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>Two Fingers and Fingercreepers are related
>A bunch of fingers in the first section of Caria Manor
RANNI THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU
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>>483551464
>caster
has in INT? That shit gotta nerfed a long time ago. Faith is borderline broken, just stick to that.
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where's the shotgun crossbow
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>>483551302
I wish we could forfeit levels at Rennala. Going into NG+ fucking sucks because you're going to 1 tap 90% of the game until like NG+5.
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>>483551550
The concept of a boss screaming and crying while fighting you, lamenting how this wasnt how it was supposed to be is pure kino
Especially if you can beat them but choose to spare them anyway
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>>483551614
Do not question the damage. Simply embrace it. Become viking.
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My only real complaints about the DLC so far are:
1. Copy paste bosses, lazy padding that isn't necessary
2. Jesus christ there is so much empty dead space in the DLC. I'm checking every nook and cranny because you know the one time you don't there will be the PussyDestroyer5000 that you will regret missing but 99% of the time there is absolutely nothing or a mushroom. This just feels like bloat, the entire DLC could do with being condensed and it would improve significantly.
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>>483551669
you can go everywhere in the map except to the final dungeon before messmer anon, it's nonlinear with very few exceptions
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This may be an extreme statement, but I don't really care for the shadow keep.
It would have been better if there were some variety in enemy types.
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>>483551361
the dlc is literally scaled to the amount of skibidi fragments you have, it's a very literal mechanic you are supposed to be using. you can cope all you want, but they are literally shoving them in your face for a reason.
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>>483551713
This is why ACVI is kino
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>>483551683
>that shit gotta nerfed a long time ago
?
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>>483551496
i still fought him a few times and it was cool, but before respec'ing for radahn, i beat every boss with one of the comet shards and under-seaded. at that point i was dead inside
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>>483550978
O Bayle, tyrant drake, do your wounds yet ache? Is your fury still yet to crest its zenith? Hurry, hurry, and lay it all to waste! Lay waste to the proud, the conceited, each, every last one of that arrogant lot.
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>>483551457
I know people laugh at us waifufags but i had a similar story. If it weren't for how goaldriven ranni is I wouldn't have been driven enough to "impress" her by trying my best to get a home of my own. Earlier this year I finally became a home owner. Something even my parents aren't. Waifus are powerful, they can give you that drive to succeed that an actual woman can with none of the drawbacks
>>483551464
Go ahead and try it. Make two characters a str one then a dex one to see what you like more.
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>>483551743
Map design is by far the only thing worthy of being shit on with this DLC. God damn what a fractured mess.
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>>483551361
Post proof that you beat radahn with 0 scuda and I'll take you serious faggot.
You only get bragging rights if you can actually back it up.
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>>483551770
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SKIBIDI FRAGMENTS ARE MEANT TO BE USED SAME AS MY THREE SUMMONS AND MY ASH OF WAR/MAGIC SPAM WHILE I SIT IN THE BACK AND DO NOTHING I STILL BEAT THE GAME STOP GATEKEEPING ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY WIN IS WORTH THE SAME AS YOURS
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blessings also makes it harder to trade damage with bosses while being summoned bc the damage u are acostumed to is no longer the same and each host will have a diff blessing level

COOL!!!
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>>483551683
yeah, i was doing shit damage and dying instantly for like half of the game, then it flipped and i started doing fuckhuge damage while dying instantly. 10/10 would faith again.
>int got nerfed
interesting, i must have missed that. havent touched my int build in a while. kinda want to try a rot dex build or something
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>>483551785
not quite the same, I want said boss to drop to their knees over my dying body whenever they kill me while repeating why like a mantra
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>>483551757
I kinda hate how pretty much every subzone is tied to a secret entrance in shadow keep, I'd rather find them while exploring instead of "actually you had to take an hidden elevator in the castle".
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What are the known cheese methods for radahn?

>zerg rush with perfumer glass cannon
>tank and poke with greatshield

anything else, like some ai glitch or throwing over the fog gate?
even the chicken wing players have to play fairly, all they do is a lot of damage per hit
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I parried the final boss to death. Did I beat the DLC?
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I feel kind of gay for some reason... Must've been the wind.
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>>483551905
>trading damage
What are you some kind of shitter?
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>>483551748
did you go everywhere before messmer?
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>>483551669
You can hit 18 before Mesmer, literally only one tiny section of the map is inaccessible.
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>>483551980
Only if you used a parry dagger
Shields are disqualified
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>>483551852
I want to take that ranni doll and snuggle her silly every night
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>>483551950
he's easier to parry than gwynn was, lol
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>>483552038
Fuck. Even if I was underleveled at RL100 and only 12 Skibidis?
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>>483548684
>Why is his head the only lock on when half the fucking time it's behind you because the cunt has no concept of personal space
>I got the shits with trying to guard counter it
Because the camera kept spinning your character around, right? A shitload of these fucking bosses have that issue. It's like they put the deflecting tear right at the start to bait you into using shields so you'd get fucked in the ass.
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>>483552005
>Now have to deal with people wearing this ugly boring uninspired trash alongside the base game Radahn set
Sigh
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What should I do keen or blood for my uchigatana?
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>>483551669
i did messmer at 7 as a pure caster and it took like 100 tries
would not recommend
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>The YDBTG retards are being BTFO by an even bigger YDBTG retard over Scadutree Blessings

This is the endgame of YDBTG posting, endless autism
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Regarding last thread: Why Godwyn the Golden? Why not the Midget, MAIDSlenia, Morgoy or Moghlester or any other demigod


What spurned Ranni into action?
Her life- as she knew that Marika would suffer no pretenders as she had done with the Gloam Eyed Queen.
Her freedom- as long as she was an Empyrean, she couldn't stand against Marika's patron of her own will and choose her destiny.
Her family- seeing what happened to her mother after Radagon left was enough to start hating Marika for what she had done.

The last straw was the fact that she realized that Radagon had probably never loved her mother at all and instead had used the marriage to subjugate the once proud Caria that now teethered on the brink of destruction with mages and soldiers wying for control,

She knew that her body had to die, so using all her magic acumen and cunning, she pretended to be Marika, stealing Destined Death from Maliketh and using Nox ambitions to craft blades and cloaks for their assassins- the Black Knives. Then she picked the target, someone whose loss Marika couldn't accept, someone, who was the symbol for all she had built, the only demigod who could bear the title- Godwyn.

She chose wisely and the rest is history.
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>>483551192
I killed the Lion, Ren and the Bug bitch before Messmer and he was still impossible.
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>>483551980
Parrying takes as much skill as rolling, it just means you take less time to kill the boss and save yourself a lot of time, but also there's more risk because if you miss the parry you're likely taking more than one hit. I'd say that you're still basically playing on hardmode if you parry a boss to death.
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>>483550929
Thank god I beat the DLC in its originally pre-nerf form
I have truly beat Elden Ring and all the lowbobs who didn't do it in 5 days can't say the same

All it took was my rolling sparks lightning perfume bottle +25, seppuku sword, golden vow, white mask, 3x rakhasha, alexander, perfumer, scorpion and blood talismans, bloodsapping lightning flask and exalted flesh
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>>483551905
I always love getting summoned for hippo and seeing my magic glintblade go from doing 2k damage to barely moving its healthbar.
Remember to check your status after getting summoned in and pointing down at the host if it's below tolerable levels, then proceed to hurl yourself off a cliff to send a message.
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>>483552190
you'll screw up the quests if you don't summon for some of the bosses right?
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>>483552163
keen,that way you can add buffs to it
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>>483552080
how does that work in phase 2 when half his attacks are just leaps or aoe
phase 1 looks trivial to parry but phase 1 is easy with any build
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Why are hosts that summon at Bayle always the least retarded?
Sunflower/Messmer/Gauis summoners always die in 10 seconds
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Why the flying fuck do you people even care what other people play the game with? Jesus Christ see a therapist. Beating a video game via self-imposed challenge is not an achievement, beating a video game in GENERAL is not an achievement. Nobody is impressed that you beat the entire game with a vanilla claymore and no armor. People play this shit to have fun and what's fun is going to vary between individuals. You might find your """""honest""""" run fun but someone else is gonna use spirit ashes and skibidi fragments and status effects and magic and have just as much fun as you did. Grow up.
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Has the update stealth-fixed the performance issues or no?
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>>483552402
>optional boss
There is your answer
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>>483551675
At the cost of not losing hours of your life, probably.
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Where is the knight that protected Ymir? I fought Ymir after Metyr and got invaded by her but I was never given the option of offering her an eye?
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>>483552202
The only thing that's ?? is Marika's decision to create the Tarnished long before there was even a whiff of the Shattering. Did she know all along Radagon would coup her and she engineered the Tarnished as a way to free herself knowing that her demigods were unreliable?
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I downloaded a trainer and killed 3x Furnace Golems/Wickermen
No regrets
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>>483552448
>seeing a therapist
You didn't beat real life

Git over it and toughen up maggot
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>>483552402
I guess it's because you have to go out of your way to get to Bayle, areas along the intended path are easy to find so more retards get walled there and summon for help.
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CURSE YOU BAYLE YOU BASTARD
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What are some good talismans for INT caster?
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>>483552469
NTA but Skibidi Avatar and Gaius are optional too, Gaius is only in your way if you want +20 Skibidi and the sunflower is so fucking buried that nobody is going to find that fucker without a guide. Bayle is WAY easier to stumble onto than that stupid plant.
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>>483552503
She's dying at the same spot she was before
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So many cool FTH weapons, what FTH / FTH adjacent build should I do?
Pure FTH, relying on spells mostly but also obviously infused weapons.
mostly STR and some FTH probably with the clawmark seal but mostly using melee.
INT/FTH for death shenanigans
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>>483552448
you didnt beat the game
shrimple as that
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I love my wife
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>>483552531
Why are people so hung up on them? They're literally just environmental puzzles like its a zelda game and they gave you the OPTION to fight them in combat even though its arduous
you're just supposed to lure them to a cliff and toss in pots
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>elden ring's pvp is a spam fest
>now have have to deal with hosts with 0 skbidi levels
>messages are unfunny zoomer memes (edge)
>no covenants
souls multi-player doesn't work anymore.
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>its a 4chan tells me to kill myself again episode
get aids
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>>483552592
renallas cameo to buff moonveils transient moonlight
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>>483552654
It never worked in the first place.
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Anyone has the igon moby dick posted yesterday? I forgot to save it and the threads are too quick...
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>>483551341
Honestly all the NPCs treat you with respect in this DLC, even Miquella calls you champion. Only the hornsent is a cunt.
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>miquellas helm is supposed to add +10% damage to his spells
>adds +10 damage instead

from...
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she will forever be a meme character with empty threats and a retarded marvel post credit scene that amounts to nothing.
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>>483552594
I stumbled upon the Sunflower by chance. Tbh I probably wouldn't known how to actually get back at it
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>>483552645
I thought there'd be only one of them and that it'd be a cool boss instead of a boring ass gimmick. Most of them also dropped useless shit aside from the one that drops the Sekiro Tear
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Mohg is fucking me up
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>>483552594
I found the tree without a guide
lol
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>>483551457
>>483551852
>been making for of marika and ranni simps for years
>theyre more successful than i am irl thanks to them
How do I cope bros?
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>>483552640
I want to suck his cock
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All right I wanna do as many NPC questlines as I can, and I've heard I need to summon Dark Souls 2 style in order to progress some of them:

Which bosses do I need to do with summons?
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>>483552771
so they just moved the last rites bug onto a helmet? neat. (flat damage causes healing spells to do damage)
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>>483552594
I stumbled on the sunflower by accident. I had to use a guide to find Gaius however.
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>>483552725
I gotchu dawg
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DLC doesn't seem that bad so far, killed 5 remembrance bosses. Presuming at this point all the crying is from people who refuse to learn a bosses moves.
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>>483552592
Radagon icon, Gravenmass, twin-headed turtle and Godfrey icon is my go to setup.
If you aren't using charged spells then blue dew talisman or erdtree are also good options.
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>>483551416
Ash is too long
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>>483552645
There's too many of them, and 6 of them just involves hacking at their legs till they fall down.
Tossing pots at a golem spamming it's homing fireballs ain't fun either.
They take too long to kill and have easily dodgeable attacks, there's no challenge in fighting them.
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what did bayle do to be so hated?
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>Struggled on golden hippo

It's over for me.
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>>483551894
so i take it you are rl1, only use r1 a singular time per attack (r1 spamming is for NOOBS) with nothing but a broken sword because any other weapon is too powerful
right??
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>>483552737
>Moore defers to your guidance
>Leda trusts you despite being a paranoid wreck
>Ansbach roots for you to become Elden Lord
>Freyja is proud of dying at your hand because
>Thiollier defects to your side
>Igon calls you Drake Warrior after killing Bayle with him
>Messmer treats you becoming Lord and plapping his mother as a foregone conclusion
>Miquella calls you the champion of the festival and wants you to join him
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Man, that was hard, even with parrying this fucker was relentless, had to switch off my trusty lucerne because it was literally too slow to capitalize on some openings without getting hit
By the way, which pair of Radahn's swords has a better ash, Light or Lord?
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>>483552910
Thanks
>>483552950
For the Dragon Communion gang? Hit and run on Placidusax
For Igon? Almost killed him
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>>483552952
Use your best friend in the game, pest threads.
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>>483552921
That's the case with most Ashes of War, a majority of them are useless and have 0 poise.
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I didn't beat radahn in time bros...
Spent too long exploring and only reached him yesterday
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>>483552910
higher res
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>>483552910
>saving a thumbnail so you can't read the text.
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>>483552926
Every single furnace golem is purposefully put near cliffs / architecture you can use to throw pots in it
that's the whole point
heck they gave them the leg armor just to force you to do it
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>>483552950
Ancient Dragon propaganda

Remember that most of what your hear from Bayle is from Florissax which is a delusional Placidusax simp (she says she offers her sleep to Placidusax even though I killed him lmao)

Bayle is a good boy who dindu nuffin
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>>483552021
yes, i only had to look up 2 areas with 1 boss because i was fairly thorough exploring
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>>483551201
I keep trying to help hosts with him and honestly I get why people crying. It's god awful there, with mimic it's probably less shit, but in co-op? Just awful
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>>483553072
based, this is some good ass OC
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>>483552950
He took two of Placidusax's heads. That got the entire dragon cult to put a hit on his ass. Also he's exceptionally violent compared to other dragons, so non-cultists hate his ass too.
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>>483552015
trading is optimal if you can do it because you have lots of flasks
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>>483552982
I really like how Igon calls you a TRUE DRAGON WARRIOR once he arrives on the scene. Feels like that one drunk veteran you meet at a bar and talk to a few times.
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I don't know how to build around rellana's
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>>483552950
Btfo'ing Placidusax made niggas very mad.
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>>483552982
Igon calls you a True Drake Warrior after killing the jagged peak drake
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>>483553064
since none of you retards can math, use one less skibidi congrats its the same as pre-nerf now you can fellate yourselves for beating the game in journalist mode instead of giting gud

>error captcha
oh fuck off *leaves*
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>>483552448
Jesus, you sound retarded. Stop playing games and get a life, you dumb loser.
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>>483553150
Did Placidusax think about ya know, try letting go of him before his heads ripped off?
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Whatever happened to Gravelord Nito, the strong silent type?
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>>483552982
We've come a long way from being maidenless runts trying to start something.
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>>483553150
the cult hates bayle so much that genociding drakes is legal, the disgust reaches as far as his entire brood
which also means that it was him plapping greyoll
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>>483553134
Bosses are always more janky with summons due to aggro swapping mid combo and dodging attacks in different active hitzones than normal. I hate when I go in as a summon and the host keeps stealing aggro back from bosses.
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The funniest thing about Igon is that he's paraplegic and somehow dragged his way up Jagged Peak from the spot you find him.
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do i summon this crazy schizo?
will it ruin the kino fight
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>>483553293
Radahn has never fucking spoken.
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>>483552584
Best dragon boss Fromsoft has ever done.
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>>483553371
It makes the fight kino
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>>483553371
You HAVE to summon him. He is what makes it kino.
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>rusty
>go on with pure dex
>mostly use estoc and zweihander
>no ash of war on either because I dislike them
>only level 4 scadu
>beat every single boss easily just killed radahn
Why are you guys having problems? Ever use bestoc?
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what did bayle do to igon??
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>>483553375
But Gravelord Nito is a dead guy made up of the bodies of a hundred dead guys.
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>>483552448
The only people who are dumber are those who get bent out of shape because some dork on the internet told them that they didn't beat the game for using XYZ.
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>>483553150
Three Heads, Placidusax has 5 head slots. Bayle took 3 heads off and probably gave him the ripped scales abd wings too

I would argue that Placidusax came out worse all things considered because Bayle apparently knows Crucible Magic and can just magic new wings and doesn't seem to be much hampered by the missing leg
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>>483553219
Which is kinda funny cause I ran from the ancient lightning dragon like a bitch
thing had too much health and no foot lock on fuck that
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>DLC
>Nothing for Torrent
:(
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>>483553371
I didn't summon him because I never summon. I just looked up on youtube after to see his voice lines in the fight.
I feel like I kina missed out but at the same time fighting him one on one was just too good. Might grab him next time.
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>>483553446
he fucked him up
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>clawmark seal
>scales with STR and FTH
>fire knight seal
>scales with STR and FTH
fucking WHY?! why make two seals that do the same shit? DEX doesn't get SHIT
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>>483553290
Bayle's a big guy, he probably just tore himself free from the grapple with such force that it ripped Placi's heads right off.
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>>483552819
summon me
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>>483553258
I'm at level 17
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where is the Two Fingers gesture? friend said it was in the finger ruins of dheo but i aint found shit
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>>483553446
Took his fucking limbs and left him for dead. He's cruel as fuck.
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>>483553527
Damn I never even noticed placid-ducks heads were still attached to him.
I thought his design was sick already but this is just great.
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Please post exceptionally cute and flustered rannis
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Can you guys take care of my wife real quick I have to do the dlc
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>>483552527
It's a precaution, given that I doubt she willingly sent Godfrey away for Radagon and she had a plan for Hewg to create an insurance in case Godfrey won't be enouhg.
It's honestly kind of sad that he is trying to save his wife and their kingdom and there's this random midget that will kill him for god knows what cause.
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>>483553514
>DEX doesn't get SHIT
Because Dex boosts casting speed which is really powerful, it's why most casters use radagons icon and some offhand Azur's glinstone staff (Since it also affects the cast speed of incantations, but only increases the FP cost for sorceries)
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>>483553514
>give seal that scales with the stat that boosts casting speed
lol
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>>483553514
DEX boosts cast speed you mongoloid. If they made a seal or staff that ALSO had DEX scaling it'd have to have garbage scaling or it'd be busted as fuck. Frenzied Flame Seal exists if you want a DEX scaling seal and guess what? It sucks when not using Frenzy incants as it fucking should. A DEX catalyst by fucking nature double dips.
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>>483553509
The fact that the summon sign is in the Arena doesn't really help desu, I am too busy dodging shit to look for it, and when you find it you also have to confirm that you want to summon him.
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>>483550863
Whatā€™s your ideal Melina ending?
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>>483553502
would've been better that if you got recognised by Igon it would be not hostile and you could exchange some words with it to build up how terrible Bayle is but its a fromsoft game
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>>483553660
into the jar she goes
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>>483553637
https://files.catbox.moe/r0hbmr.png
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>>483550929
You didn't beat the game
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>>483553716
>also affects the cast speed of incantations
the heck
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>>483553410
i sure enjoy my camera having a seizure and getting stuck in the ground
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so i need to finish the dlc to get thiolier's armor set? why do they keep doing this...
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>nips treat Souls games like co-op games
>westerns think you should purposely make the game harder for yourself because "that's the way it's meant to be played"
Way are they like this?
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>>483553716
>>483553686
>>483553718
alright alright I get it
but making two STR FTH seals seems dumb even if they're meant to be buffing seperafe stuff
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>bleed
>golden vow
I didn't beat the game...
Glad to finally be done with this without summoning or changing my build though. Way more satisfying than the mimic tear or chicken leg kill.
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>>483553737
Considering that literally no one cares about her, not even fromsoft, her becoming kindling.
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>>483553737
Plapping her repeatedlyand starting a new world after I finish burned everything else to the ground, she'll be my eve.
Marika's brood is going to look tiny by comparison once I'm done.
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>>483553832
next game will have full co-op with pvp only being done in the arena
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>>483553805
i didn't even know such a man existed and now i have 1 remembrance of putrescent knight and 0 thiollier stuff
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>>483553835
It's not really. Clawmark is for STR weapons with FTH tax. Fire Knight is for FTH weapons with high STR tax.
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>>483553718
PUNCH Leaf
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>>483553832
>Souls are meant to be co-op games
>Cant consistently summon fucking anyone
>Unable to Summon, Unable to Summon, Unable to Summon
Can the multi billion dollar company maybe invest in some fucking servers
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>>483551469
always has been
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so hold up
if I'm fucking understand the lore right
the greater will/fingers fucked right off after fingering the world right?

so have the finger readers and two fingers been making shit up this whole time?
like just straight up bullshit?
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whats the best Anti-Gank set up for invasions, and what level should I realistically be?
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>>483547273
>Forcing dipshits to actually play the content
nta, but the "forcing" part is actually the problem if we're talking about exploration, this is the same mistake ubishit makes when they tell you to "explore" for "optional" content.
Exploration is something you do because you see something cool that's not the main path and you're like "bruh wtf is that" and check it out. The fact that it's not required or even particularly encouraged is why it's exploration. Base ER did a great job of this.

I autistically explored everything and don't speedrun anything btw so it's not like I oppose the basic message, I just think the scadu fragments were horribly implemented. If every time you killed a boss with a boss bar you got a scadu fragment that would still encourage exploration but not leave us looking for shadow niggers holding pots to kill. Hell even some of the exploration ones are fine the scadu crucible ones make perfect sense, but some of them are in the middle of nowhere and that's less rewarding exploration and more rewarding autistically combing through everything
Doesn't make it any better that half the time the purple item aura that indicates a potential scadu is just 10k runes like ok bro nobody cares about that at this point
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>Other balance adjustments and bug fixes will be added soon
We're on the clock bros
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>>483553660
Sure I'll put her somewhere safe!
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>>483553832
All the clips I see nips post of them fighting bosses on twitter don't have any summons or even spirit ashes.
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>>483553793
70 DEX or using glintstone staff + radagon icon gives you insanely fast combustion / carian slicers.
If they gave us a staff / seal that scaled with dex + int or faith it would be the best seal in the game unless it was absolutely atrocious.
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>>483553832
cause seemless coop is a mod not vanilla, and I like superbosses
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>>483553832
You see that perform matchmaking button? It actually works for them
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>>483552913
Shazamtrannies are rampant right now. In all fucking honesty to me this dlc is like the real sequel to Dark Souls 1 we never got.
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>>483553982
That's kind it, but you also have to assume Ymir, the tranny schizo is telling the truth
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>>483553832
Because these particular westerners have been brainrotted by sigma male propaganda and willingly atomise themselves from society and can't fathom having fun together
If they heard of mario party or playing smash with your cousins they'd explode with disbelief
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>1.10
>PvP was nice
>1.12 pre dlc
>PvP was now perfected, apex achieved
>DLC out
>PvP balance has never been MORE FUCKED UP THAN IT IS NOW
sugoi from
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>>483553730
>prompt is hovering over "No" when it pops up
Between this and the prompt to bring Torrent back when he dies it has to be on purpsoe.
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If you get your heart stolen you canonically join Miquella and it counts as beating the game.
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>>483550978
Someone needs to edit his lines into the damn song already. I'm half tempted to learn how to edit just to do it myself
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>>483554117
why doesnt the dlc add more achievements
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>>483552614
80/80 caster is fun and your spells hit like a nuke
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>>483554083
>never been MORE FUCKED UP THAN IT IS NOW
even with deathblights/bloodflames deadly sin? I don't think so.
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>>483554036
Messmer and his crusade genocided the people that put others in jars anon
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Have you apologized yet, /erg/?
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What lvl should I be to fight mogh?
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>>483553935
he's kind of easy to miss since he just sits in a random corner next to a miquella cross.
see the hill you climb to find igon screaming? just before that point you take the path left and you find him.
i wanted his armor set but apprently i need to beat the final boss for it, so it's a new game+ item which i don't like
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>>483552602
nobody there in my game
the whole church is empty
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>>483553832
I just don't like health bloating bosses.
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>>483554218
150-180, hes tough.
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>>483552775
melina has maybe 5 minutes of screentime tops in the entirety of elden ring, and im being generous with 5
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>>483554223
teleport away/teleport back/quit game and reload
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>>483554295
She's the character with the most dialogue in the entire game, unless maybe Gideon has more.
Why do you pretend that's not enough?
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>>483554218
maybe 100
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>>483554197
>Fire Knight sword
>Flame Skewer
>Flame Spear
>Swift Slash
Yes, there is no counterplay about any of these new DLC stuff.
Especially Swift Slash it's virtually impossible to dodge or counter
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>>483554216
Ansbach convinced me, Miquella robbed us of the Mohgwyn dynasty and defiled the poor guys corpse.
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>>483554216
sorry nigga. my bad!
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So what bosses are actually obligatory
I know you can get around the Golden Hippopotamus and Rellana so

>Divine Beast
>Messmer
>Radahn

Anyone else?
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>>483554117
Best ending
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if an anon has a thiolier set they don't need can you give it to me?
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>>483553763
>both faces emoting
why do they never fucking get it right?
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>>483553984
Damnation GS is pretty good for one shotting VIGlets and the WA animation makes you immune to damage so bretty cool. Parfumes are also probably good for one shotting, haven't tried them.
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>>483552950
traitor against the Elden Lord of the time
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>>483553982
yes
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The timeline is so fucking confusing.
Radahn and Gaius studied together at Sellia, so the "sealing" off the Shadow Realm was before that? So Rennala and Radagon were already a thing? You had two Liurnia wars and the Golden Order was already established? I don't fucking get it.
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>>483552005
>>483552162
kevin has evolved
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How do I get to this ledge?
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>>483554396
what does varre actually do. whats his job. is he just scouting potential recruits or is he just a freeloader mooching off mohg and living in his house while acting smug
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>>483552775
She's Marika's humanity incarnate and canon wife that's enough.
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>>483550863
I'm starting to regret going dex/fth
literally everything cool is str/fth or quality
I'm still using base game weapons
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>>483553984
Switft Slash and enough FP to spam it
Just spam it, you can't lose any fight as long you have FP to use it
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>>483554218
his name is mohg
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>>483554083
>1.12 pre dlc
>PvP was now perfected, apex achieved

Yep sure loved every other fight being an int casterfag spamming pebble and then the other was max poisefaggotry with dual spears so perfect
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>>483554423
Najka 2.0
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>>483554117
this reminds me, if you get your -HEART STOLEN- you should start invading nearby
when people are doing ng+ runs and having fun again
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>>483553832
do you have
literally
ANY
proof
that japs view the game in this way?
i am willing to bet that you do not
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>>483554453
>mindless drone
>best ending
based retard
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>>483554423
Romina
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>>483554390
cant you just block swift slash
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>>483554423
Romina.
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I can leave messmer alive and go to the ancient sonic ruins of rauh from shadow keep.
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>>483553341
I kinda wish we got more Zorayas in SotE. The letter she leaves behind kinda left an open ending for her.
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>>483554594
>1.12
>dual spears
nigga dual spears got nerfed in this last patch, they can't track for shit
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>>483554423
you don't need to beat divine beast, burning the tree teleports you past that path. it's romina, messmer, radahn.
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>>483554686
how u gonna get through the sealing tree
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Ghostflame dragons suck big doodoo and are also very gay and cringe
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>>483554557
He finishes off wounded combatants, that's his job as a doctor.
Also he brings Mohg flowers and as you said, scouts for new recruits.
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>>483554423
is divine beast actually obligatory? i dont think it is, you can just avoid it and go to shadow keep, get messmers flame, burn the tree after killing romina, then the game immediately teleports you to the final zone without needing to fight lion
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>>483553973
Maybe you should try having country only servers like the glorious Japanese wwwww filthy gaijin wwwwww
Actually don't know if ER has Jap only servers but that's literally the reason they suck at Netcode. They have servers for themselves and then servers for everyone else. Their own servers have little issues since their shit netcode isn't as glarring when it's confined to a single country with good internet in general.
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Ranni is a dork NEET
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>>483554423
cussy (centipede pussy)
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>>483554390
there is no counterplay to instakills either thats why they patched it out. at least you can reduce fire damage, and parry
>>483554705
no dead body is a win in the end, Rya frens we won.
I too wish we could have found her on a camping adventure thoughever.
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We could have had an entire village of goddesses like Marika in the Shadow Realm, but instead the big horned tribe of "chosen people" took them and tortured them into hideous monstrosities.

Never forget what the Horns*nt took from us.
I say use frenzy flame to cleanse everything that survived Mesmers first pass
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>>483554524
Can someone explain it to me...I'm dumb...
>>483554749
Spam sacred blade
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Anybody saying demi-humans are innocent is crazy. They killed Irina so they deserve to get genocided.
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>>483554732
isn't that the final area?
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>nerfing dlc this fast
such a shitter normie open world fest live service slurp game
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>>483554635
>>483554668
>Romina

Oh I beat her already (haven't fought Messmer yet), and I did indeed see a Shadow Tree behind her church. I tought I would just burn it after Divine Beast and that the elevator was just a random secret area
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>>483553973
>Unable to Summon
that usually means someone grabbed them before you
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>Romina is more powerful than the actual Goddess of Rot herself
Maleniabros? Rotbros?
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>>483554752
well, i doubt varre is still working as a surgeon, considering there arent really many standing armies that arent insane
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>>483554659
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBi1ZJve8zI&t=0s
It will just hit from behind
>>483554789
these were glitches though, swift slash skwere spear and Fire Knight are working as intended and they are wayyy too bullshit
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>>483554757
the matchmaking settings in souls game are and always have been "japan" and "everywhere else"
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>>483554858
Is she? She was pretty easy to beat.
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>>483554791
>Can someone explain it to me
Honestly, you are putting more thought into it than the whole of Fromsoft combined. Just assume Messmer is the canon firstborn and move forwards with that.
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>>483554843
doesn't matter just don't use / use less skibidi upgrades.
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>>483554858
Where does it say that?
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From the complaining I've seen I expected to never get an opening against this guy, boy was I surprised when I noticed I could just run up to the fucker after his spin and nuke him with a full cast of Dragonfire
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damn so i ng+ and didint do anything before i quit playing this game and i forgot so i had to start a whole new game for the dlc and now they changed the difficulty? i only just finished limgrave and weeping peninsula
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>>483554858
she isn't.
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>>483553832
Have you seen the average host? Dying in the dumbest ways possible? Every single casual converted into a competent player is a service rendered to the community.
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>>483554858
much like a centaur is part man, part horse, romina is part woman, part scorpion, part centipede, part woman, part butterfly
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>>483554626
No thoughts only Miquella
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>>483554749
Use holy damage or Ancient Dragons Lightning Strike. Both fuck em up.
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>>483554843
they nerfed nothing.

people who use skibidis are looking for an easy mode anyway
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>>483554806
There's demi-humans and there's misbegottens.
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>tfw killing radahn with scarlet rot for a second time

lol
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>>483554216
>didn't care about becoming elden lord or whatever
>probably got his great rune from his kind brother, or got it by helping him
>just wants to build a nice kingdom for himself and his friends, everyone is welcome (albinaurics included)
>all of this completely ruined by Miquella, brainwashing Mohg and giving him AIDS
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>>483554978
the first ng+ barely changes anything except buffing early areas of the base game and giving enemies more flat defense
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>>483554864
>that arent insane
All the more reason to scour the battlefield and mercy kill any survivors.
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>>483554958
I miss Chronoz's wacky Miquella. Oh what could have been.
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spirits ashes
perfume bottles
fingerprint shield and poke
bleed
anything in the game
if you used anything in the game to beat miq and radahn then you beat the game fair and square and i am proud of you
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>>483554806
That wasn't demihumans you retard. That was misbegotten.
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>>483554390
>Fire Knight sword
Perfectly fair. It's just a zweihander with a moveset from the gsgs which also true combos its r1. People are just whining now because the better moveset has actual reach to punish you with and isn't locked to a shitass WA
>Flame Skewer
Obvious telegraph if used in neutral and anyone with half a brain should know by not to expect the follow up rather than get greedy
>Flame Spear
Piss easy to dodge.
>Swift Slash
This is a fair complaint. Hard as fuck to punish and easy to spam makes it a favorite of the l2 monkeys. Not impossible to beat though, just retardedly difficult. Claws of night seem to be my most consistent counter since I can pepper spammers with it when they whiff.
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>>483554453
>>483554626
>>483554992
ngl hypnosis asmr is nice sometimes, but remember you have to want it it doesn't work if the speaker is being a malicious cunt or putting you down (unless you're into that, i'm not personally)
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>>483555202
>hypnosis asmr
wat
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>>483555202
hypnosis isnt real, its fake
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>>483555090
how do i get to the dlc on ng+ then i dont got any graces unlocked? i have to play through the game again?
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>Host gets hit by Messmer's first attack
You don't deserve my help
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>>483554858
is there actually a reason the bug lady uses rot and not poison besides the developers being lazy fucks and wanting her to be venemous but realizing poison isnt hardcore enough for le epic dlc?
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>>483555275
not him but autohypnosis is just trancing
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What are people using on Milady? I've had a bit of fun with Cold Carian Sovereignty but it's definitely not optimal.
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>no Godskin Trio
>no Shadow of Godefroy
shit DLC
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>>483555290
I would just leave if I saw that happen.
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>>483555065
I was really mad when I found out landing a perfect Scarlet aeonia on him during phase 2 didn't trigger scarlet rot.
And no it wasn't due to increased resistances from me applying it first round, I deliberately held off on that to test it out.
Considering how much of a pain actually landing that during phase two is, it felt rather dickish on the developers side.
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>>483555290
messmer's flame...
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>>483555319
Wing Stance with Magic Infusion. Great for regular mob clearing.
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>>483554749
Took me a bit to beat the first one, but then I defeated the other two on my first tries.
They really aren't that bad, and I imagine if you're a FTH build or got some holy damage, they're piss easy.
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I'm having fun.
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>>483555329
godskin barbershop quartet
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>>483555241
"google" actually flaru it.
>>483555275
yeah I said that. you have to believe it works for it to work. power of suggestion, or self hypnosis.
I bet you don't even know how to force yourself to release endorphins on command lol. aka make yourself feel an emotion on command.
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>>483554749
>fight first ghostflame dragon
>NPC soldiers trying to kill it
>they see me trying to help them and naturally decide to ignore the dragon and chase me around the entire time
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>>483555418
imagine if they did that with them actually singing their own theme acapella with voices being removed from the track as you kill them. kino.
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>>483555397
NTA, but drakes are just ass to fight in general.
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>>483555350
Just land it twice, it's piss easy due to the HA. Scarlet Aeonia is how I beat him.
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>>483554896
Ha, as expected
Japs really need to be dragged kicking and screaming into making good fucking netcode
Personally I recommend threatening to firebomb Tokyo again until they fix their shit. It's not as if Fromsoft's the only one responsible for this heinous shit. Every Jap company is guilty of not coding proper fucking online because of their isolationist bullcrap. It's frankly a criminal on the level of Pearl Harbor.
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>we never travel around with miqqy and talk with him at bonfires

3/5 was generous
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>>483555367

that voice actor is so bad its insane
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this 'boss' is fucking obnoxious
>can't see what the fuck i'm doing
>can't even lock on to the feet
>has retarded high hp and damage
>arena is nearly all water
>water conducts 100% of the splash damage
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>>483554958
I'm still disappointed that Trina wasn't a cyclops.
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>>483555410
I leveled up to whatever co-op range you get at 170 and I am seeing some real fucking creatures for hosts.
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>>483551675
>the most brain-dead build for NPCs imaginable
>still managed to run out of healing while finishing below 10% HP
>and get grabbed once
Holy shit, so bad lol
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lmao what
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>>483555452
if you cant cry on command you aint white
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>>483555635
noooooo hes better than the trailer one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fought Sword master Onze and quite enjoyed the fight.

Partially because it was fun, partially because I was able to use bloodflame against the little demi human abomination and watch the little monkey rat bleed
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>>483555715
Congrats you're gay now.
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>>483555643
It's terrible yeah. Every ancient dragon is fucking aids to fight. I had enough of that one and just used rot and frost breaths to kill it.
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>>483555665
I'm cooping at 230 lol. Maybe 1/4 hosts survives.
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>>483555715
You're gay now
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>>483555643
This faggot made me dust off my Knight Kristoff ash and just shoot him. I fucking hate dragons and this one is the worst of them all.
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>>483555715
You are fucking gay, as in HOMOSEXUAL
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Is Rellana weak to pierce damage?
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>>483553504
>torrent returned to his world
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>>483550863
Opinions?

>>483552772
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>>483555604
maybe the world should work on upgrading the infastructure and stop relying on decades old tech and hoping position data is enough for multiplayer (data sent is simplified to such a degree when multiplayering compared to what you're seeing and doing in a single player environment, no I wont elaborate with technical details learning this shit was hard as balls)
>>483555718
I meant more of a force yourself happy like molly without the molly but yeah same concept
I figured out you could do this a while ago
>>483555715
your gay now anon
>now
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How early are you supposed to fight the Scooby-Doo avatar? People were saying it's a fun boss fight but with 10 fragments it was extremely boring and felt like fighting a joke mini-boss.
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>go into abyssal woods
>the sheep are mad

I can't this place seriously
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>>483555643
Beat him on first try with the pozzhammer and fingerprint while fatrolling, same as Bayle, but it was a close call both times.
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What is a good shield to pair with my Sword of Darkness
I literally have never used shields before
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>>483555715
Shot through the heart and you're to blame!
You gave souls... a gay name!
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>>483555785
>>483555802
>>483555832
It's not gay.
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>>483553832
i'm solitary in life as i'm solitary in games
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is this what all you pissbabies are crying over being filtered? didnā€™t really break a sweat and cruised through this and had a good time. Why donā€™t people actually learn to play the game properly and gain skill instead of blaming devs?
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>>483555902
>its full of rats
>and sheep
>and winter lanterns from the hit PS4 exclusive Bloodborne
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This dlc was the worst possible outcome for miquella. I hate it so much.
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>>483555715
You are gay, fag
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>>483555919
Legitimately any medium shield with 100 physical negation does the job, just pick the one you think looks nicest
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>>483555964
Extra gay + gay rape (which is common in gay cummunities)
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>>483555893
The development of the infrascture is irrelevant when distance is taken into account.
Northern euros and Europe in general has better internet infrastructure than the nips and we still issues with their shitty games.
Fuck the nips and their netcode.
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>>483555964
It's extremely gay.
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>>483555964
at least we know why Varre was singing CPR now hahahaha
-MINDRAPED-
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>>483556000
You already posted this yesterday. Checking thos trips tho.
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>>483555715
miquella... so evil... and gay...
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This dlc was the best possible outcome for miquella. I love it so much.
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I beat Bayle without using Scadutree Blessings, so I beat the game. Fuck you all telling me I did not because I still got Miquella to kill.
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Spoonfeed me easy to farm and useful DLC greases, please
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>>483556000
unironically? beat him after 3 tries with greatshield and bleede spear after a good hour of dying to him. fucking embarassing that the strat is to just tank his hits with the shield while bleeding him out
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>>483550863
AAAAAA FUCKING CHINESE GOT THE GAME NERFED
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This dlc was the possible outcome for miquella. I acknowledge it exists
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>Bloodfiend's Arm
>Blood infused
>60 ARC
>Royal Knight's Resolve
>Axe Talisman
>Spiked Cracked Hardtear
It's clobberin' time.
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>>483556059
so invent quantum entangling internet, or put fiber EVERYWHERE so it runs at light speed instead of speed of sound in material* (*all the copper is old too and some servers were made in the 80s/60s depending on protocol(banks for the later rather than games but still))
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>>483556136
Did you summon Igon?
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>>483553371
It makes it better
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>>483556016
I'm going to die mad about it.
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>>483555313
Her remembrance implies she created the scarlet rot, so yeah.
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>>483556000
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>>483555785
>>483555802
>>483555832
>>483555893
>>483555929
>>483556017
>>483556103
but im a woman
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>>483556136
if you didnt beat bayle with Igon you DIDNT beat the game
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>>483556229
Don't forget your new 2hand talisman for 15% more damage on your infinity damage
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UHHHH Quick question, I recall some post a week or so ago about the Dryleaf fist weapon where it had debuffs while it had an attack animation going, any truth to that or any specific info like this?
I love the moveset and it fits perfectly with quickstep ash, so I'd like to use it but if it has a massive developer made "fuck you" then I'll just settle to playing DS2 with bone fists.
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>>483556285
(male)
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Has anyone tried a full Dryleaf build yet? Dane's set, Footwork and Arts?
Is it any good?
All of it is so light it's probably a to-go light roll melee build. You can easily fit them on a caster too.
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>>483556285
Maybe donā€™t get grabbed by Miquella
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How am I finding so little new gear. I've combed the fucking grass from top to bottom in the areas before entering Scadu Altus, and I have a couple new weapons, couple new ashes of war, and almost no spells regardless of what build they are for.
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>>483556285
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>>483556285
Congrats on being made turbo straight then.
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Did Miquella really just say "Radahn my consort, plap my fat ass with your burly cock"
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>>483556285
YWNBAW
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Now we need one of these with Messmer.
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Just testing what kind of damage this gets up to
I haven't reached 80/80 stats yet, this is 57/80

I think furnace golems take extra damage while grounded, its not just passing through for extra hitchecks since you can see its the same when its aimed down
so a full hit from the spork is over 18k damage here, 28k with it downed
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>>483556331
Do you think FromSoft is aware of the "Zanzibart forgive me" meme?
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>>483556285
Tits or gtfo
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>>483556279
>malenia is turned into a fujo weirdo who gets completely abandoned by the guy she lives and fights for and also she's second fiddle to some stronger rot character called romina who has 0 lines.
malenia really got fucked over hard by this dlc.
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>>483556229
This invalidates so much of the games difficulty. You'll beat pretty much any boss in 10 minutes or less.
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>>483556285
Oh, you are cuckquean then. If you were a man, Miq would've probably let you join, but now you just have to watch him get piped by Rada
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>>483556406
armor is almost exclusively in dungeons and from bosses. get the armor of solitude yet? go straight west from the middle of gravesite plain to a mausoleum to get it
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>>483555410
2 NPCs in this image lol
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>>483556285
Congrats you're a fujo now, go join the fan club.
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>>483556452
>Miquella on Malenia's lap
No longer accurate. Need s to be lusting after Radahn.
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>>483556285
even if that were true, he's a twink so it's still gay
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>>483556020
Ty sis
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How bad is the Scadutree nerf?
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>>483556000
You still need to add a spirit ash to the hotbar
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it's funny that bayle will be the most memorable boss of the dlc instead of radahn and miquella
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Anyone ITT remember Elden-Kun? I wonder what he's up to.
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Are you meant to fight Gaius on horseback?
How do you dodge the fucking Spear and boar combo on foot?
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I'm glad the endgame level is going up because it means people can finally use all four talisman slots for build specialisation instead of filling the gap for necessary stats like VIG and END.
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>>483550978
>just a barren mountain with basically nothing there but elements
>is responsible for some of the best experience i ever had in a souls game
These setpiece areas are the best once again. Exactly how it was with Ash Lake.
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>>483555919
Get the wolf shield from ensis, gets 66 stability at 24
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>>483556597
FUCK YOU BAYLE
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>>483556485
lorefags assemble
is centiscorpion the sealed Uhl god of rot as indicated by the rot dagger? rather than you know assuming its astel cause he down below there. even though there are two of them so he's not an outer god. ?
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>>483556448
He really did just choose the biggest cock he could find
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>>483556597
bayle was a fucking joke. the dragon right before him was more challenging. this game's balancing is genuinely retarded.
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>>483556347
>>483556394
>>483556407
>>483556421
>>483556450
>>483556468
>>483556494
>>483556523
>>483556547
just kidding, i'm a 30 year old slightly obese italian man, i just wanted (you)s
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>>483556487
I already beat the DLC with an honest build, this is my second playthrough and I don't give a fuck anymore.

>>483556337
good call
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>>483556597
Only Messmer, Bayle and Midra are memorable. I guess Metyr as well, but the Ymir quest is genuinely boring.
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can the patch come already, i dont want to spend days making a build around something and then it gets nerfed into the ground 3 days later
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>>483556581
almost zero difference at 19/20 scoobydoos
very small extra rate at 20/20
huge difference at early 1-10 skibidibis but that just affects your early exploration in dlc
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>>483550654
>>483550658
I beat gay radahn for the 2nd time by parrying him instead and I still feel nothing
I know him well enough now to probably beat him without shields or parrying but it would double the length of the fight. I don't understand what the devs intended when they made this
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>>483556597
CURSE YOU BAYLE
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>>483554083
Good, fuck PvPfags. They'll never be satisfied anyways
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>>483556683
Congrats on being made turbo gay then.
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So uhhh

What the fuck is Enir-Ilim? What the fuck is the Gate of Divinity?
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>>483556683
too late you're a fujo now
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MY BLADE I WEEL
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>>483556452
>Miquella on Radahn's lap
Wtf, now it should be Miquella holding up Radahn bridal style
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>>483555313
According to her lore it's implied she either MADE or she modified the Scarlet Rot in such a way it's potency is stronger than Malenia's. Either she become the new goddess of rot, or she's the host of scarlet rot
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>>483556043
>>483556079
It's not gay. It's also not rape.
>>483556016
>>483556248
>Caelid gets nuked, Redmanes and Cleanrot Knights suffer massive losses
>Radahn is left rotting, eating corpses and howling like an animal
>Malenia's rot gets worse, she loses her needle, Miquella fucking leaves (couldn't make a new one, eh? dipshit? what are those 3-5 arms for?), ignoring her state and the Haligtree
>Finlay had to walk her back, with both almost dying on the way, meanwhile Miquella is sucking wounds off a Redmane woman
>Redmanes and Cleanrot Knights STILL fight even after death
>The reason for this fight is just a childhood promise, LOL. Get fucked, bitch ass gaijin.
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>>483556738
they intended it to be malenia 2 and for streamers to soiface over how heckin hard it is.
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I hope it was nothing special... Why would they punish you so for using ranged options?
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>>483556668
Seeksex is one of the most fucked things in the game next to bussydahn and gayus
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>>483556597
Bayle?
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these games have become silly
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>>483556608
run backwards and roll, you can tell by the boar's movement that they're starting the combo.
Gaius took me like an hour, once you figure out his attacks it's genuinely a really fair boss sans the slightly fucked hitbox on the boar charge
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>>483553832
According to who?
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>>483556597
I want to know who's the voice actor for Igon that dude should be in everything
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>>483556610
I'm not even sure what an endgame level is going to be at this point. DLC SHITS runes. Ensis alone is like 500k runes if you kill everything. Shadow Keep is probably several millions before Messmer. There's a ton of field minibosses too.
Like, if you enter it at 140-150, you will surely be above 200 by the end.
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What spirit summon fills that "me and bro" niche, that isn't Mimic Tear. Mimic Tear still feels a bit too cheesey for me but pretty much anything else is fine
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>>483556850
He's a big dragon
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>>483556771
The Gate of Divinity is Yawgmoth's corporeal body as he has shapeshifted himself into an entire arena for Urza and Gerard to fight to the death
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>>483555329
I was disappointed by the lack of there being a fight where it's just three hundred flame-breathing stormhawks in a tiny room
Fire Giant 2 was also a huge absence, as was Fire Giant 3: Blue Fire Giant
From had two years to make a Soldier of Godrick Rematch as well
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>>483556878
so is that what that fucker did with mohg's body?
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What's the verdict on the quality of DLC legacy dungeons?
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i used the erg password and im surprised by how many of you actually leave helpful messages
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>>483556654
No, she was a random chick that somehow created/found the scarlet rot while getting BTFO by Messmer.
>After the church was burned to the ground, Romina discovered a twisted divine element, which she weaved into the baleful scarlet rot.

But also she's not a goddess of rot like Malenia
>The scarlet butterflies are as the Goddess of Rot's wings. Bereft of a master, they were soothed by Romina, who reached out to them.

So idk seems like just a random chick that managed to contact with the rot somehow and gain powers.
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>godskins hunted gods for their skin
>where did they find these gods
>all hornsent are called empreyian in game files
>hornsent have the divine gate
>hornsent ascetics train to become ā€œtutelary deitiesā€

ā€¦did the geq join the war on marikas side but then betrayed her or was betrayed
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>>483556878
should've ended this shit in the ringed city. it was the perfect ending to rollslop
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>>483556945
dung
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>>483554872
>that fucking video
Yeah I'm not going anywhere near PvP for a while.
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>>483556712
So if I had 12 skibidi yesterday than I'm 25% or something more powerful with the patch?
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>>483551757
cute tarnished

>>483552271
>>483551905
this is why the core design of the dlc is flawed
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>>483556831
It's just a +10 glovewort, nothing special.
If you really want it you can kill yourself and spawn at the stake just nearby, just gotta kill the big imp again.
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>>483556878
your damage is so pitiful with that weapon though
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Jagged Peak and Abyssal Woods are a clear indication Fromsoft should never abandon the DeS/DS1 styled setpiece/puzzle locations. They are just the best.
I guess blue/red fields count too, they are pretty much designated spectacle areas, Xenoblade 1 style.
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>>483556738
soulfags always complain about fights being too easy. they rarely ever really complain about fights being horribly designed and shit to fight. the result is fromsoft just making shit fights that are unnecessarily "hard" because they can get away with it
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>>483556878
I want a pilebunker so bad, why could only bloodborne have one?
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>>483557002
>GEQ
It's time to let go anon. She's with Velka now.
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>>483556945
the demihuman swordsman
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Skeanureeves fragments
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We need an Elden Ring version of this now.
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>>483556683
Miquella is into that
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>>483557078
>glovewort
Thought so.
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>>483556945
Deenh
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>>483556890
The fucking charge is retarded.
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>>483557090
Everything to do with the fingers and Metyr was the peak of the DLC for me.
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>>483556945
>>483557164
i second this, yosh is perfect bro material
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>resorted to reveal all graces cheats because I am a retard at navigation and coulnd't find my way to cerulean coast, the scadutree foot and Gaius, as well as the rest of locations outside of straight paths to Radahn
>also overleveled as shit, cheesed Radahn with fingerprint and foreskin stitcher
>cheated 20 scadutree seeds
>basically bum rushed everything
>lose interest in a game
>the very next day want to replay it but fair this time, slowly and properly
Why am I like this? I want to leave gaming so I tried to kill my interest in the game, but it just doesn't die.
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>>483556945
paige, Therolina, bloodhound knight
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>Twitter is going crazy because of Marika and Jars
>This means, of course, that Marika did nothing wrong and all of her genocides are justified.
:)
>>483557190
Who would the characters be?
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>>483556945
Bloodhound Knight Floh
Bro died having never found a lord but decides that you are worthy and answers your call. Kino.
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>Two headed turtle talisman found next to a one headed turtle
:|
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>>483554545
Via the ruins, from the South. You can see the path in grey, dummy. Don't think there was anything there tbhwy.
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>>483556503
No I mean I have fucking gone everywhere in the pre-scadu altus areas. All I have left is a bit of the southern end with the red flower clifftop, the middle of the finger desert (I pray there is something there what the fuck is the waste of this area) and what I think is the Bayle bossfight? Oh and the cerulean coast hole but it's technically scadu altus because it doesn't unlock before then. I even already did the fort that's in the alternate route up to scadu altus. Are there any night bosses? If there are I haven't been lucky enough to encounter them. I have a lot of talismans and perfume bottle weapons but it feels like the majority of the new shit must be up in Scadu Altus and beyond.
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>>483556997
>So idk seems like just a random chick that managed to contact with the rot somehow and gain powers.
oh shit just like my mushroom character then. the RP there is they were a samurai from the land of wano- I mean Reeds and they started taking on the powers of rot (and probably died, once) when reaching Caelid
its neat when things line up like that
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>>483557317
Malenia and Miquella, with Radahn on the phone.
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>>483557180
Scadrienbrody fragments
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I will never forgive Miyacucki for making me hyped for the new weapons classes only for most of them to be shit
>Light GS
Cool movement, shit scaling and pose
>Perfumes
Meh, they are only cool because the Lighting one murders everything
>Martial Arts
Cool movesets and that's pretty much all
>Great Katanas
Below average
>The new dual curved swords
Only good ones
>Thrown weapons/other shit
Basically same moveset as base game but you can throw them now
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Alright. I won, and now I can do it again with the Igon summon without feeling bad.
Honestly, the fight isn't that bad, I got fucked when trying to hit his head, but if you just go after legs and tail it's managable.
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is RL150 only a flavor of the month thing and will the standard end-game RL be 125-138 again in a couple of weeks when all the normies finished their playthrough
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>>483557349
yeah its up in scadu
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milady is the best feeling weapon ive tried so far. i just wish the backhand blade AOW was useable on a less ugly weapon
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>>483556945
I love the Crystallian, the chunky fuck will live through anything and has 300 fucking poise, until he gets broken he can't even be damaged.
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I can get past Radahn phase 1 pretty easily, but phase 2 is just horseshit. His punishment windows from phase 1 get covered by the new light beams he shits out. When am I supposed to hit him??
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Okay, so, I got the Sword of Darkness, but... how were you SUPPOSED to get up there?
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>>483557292
same
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>>483557404
I am surprised how many of you guys actually use consumables. They feel like too much of a hassle for me.
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>The Spectral Steed is frightened and cannot be summoned
what was your reaction to that particular message?
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>>483557374
frankly you're retarded and wrong on every single count
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>>483557418
150 is what you'll be at from finishing the fucking base game dude, if anything it will go up
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>>483557404
>i won
>dragon great katana
you didn't won though
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>>483556950
For Igon (Aegon)
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>>483557317
I'm going crazy because 'crucible' actually means jar.
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>>483557292
This fight was probably my least favorite so far. I just didn't feel it.
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>>483551085
its "running stab" the weapon like katanas but even more so
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can you parry Radahn: Revengeance's swipe up?
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>>483557515
I found it funny. They made it so you can summon him for Elden Beast but he gets scared here.
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>>483551757
>It would have been better if there were some variety in enemy types.
I said this about the main game when Leyndell was filled with palette swaps of Limgrave enemies and a bunch of other shit that's already roaming around in the woods outside the capital. If your dungeon is not going to be interactive the enemies better be interesting and original, but nope.
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are there any current ways to cheese mohg? i can't beat him at level 60...
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>>483557515
Torrent is a pussy
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>>483557460
how dare you insult my weaponfu like that
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>>483557606
yeah have someone beat him for you
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>>483557120
Bloodborne was filled with AC references so I jist don't understand why there's basically nothing in souls games
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>>483557474
wear crucible armor for holy defence and marika's public hair around your cock for max talisman holy defence. other than that? the go-to strat for killing him is to use a greatshield (specifically finger but it doesnt really matter) and a spear with bleed on it so you just bleed him to death while hiding behind the shield
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>>483557418
my holy build is already pushed to 200 for new spells and equipment and I optimized the fuck out of it for weeks in advance to no avail, what I want to do with it cannot be done at 150
and I added end because im tired of wearing cloth pretending thats going to be enough with no skibidi upgrades. (still not using them)
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>>483557541
>he didn't beat the game using a banana as a controller
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>>483552271
Based
Some hostcels need to be put in their place
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>>483557515
I love it when games do shit like that.
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>>483557504
just cheat them in
they can be quite fun
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>>483557606
rot/poison then just run around the arena till he dies
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>>483557305
Not going to lie, you sound like a MASSIVE drone with no self-control whatsoever
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>>483557572
>I just didn't feel it.
It was the only boss that actually inspired awe in me the first it pulled this move out.
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>>483557504
I use them sometimes, but admittably rarely.
I've got throwing knives set for luring enemies (mostly grave birds sitting on top of gravestones) and the hefty jar specifically for the furnance golems or whatever those wickermen are called.
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>>483556625
It is a barren mountain with a cool buildup. You rise up the mountain with the air getting thicker, everything getting darker and covered in blood red hue, as well as lightning starts to crackle, while the place is also littered with dragon corpses as you approach closer and closer.
Look how well it is all set up.
What I will suck off this DLC is that there are 4-5 instances of straignt atmospheric setpieces strung together to experience, almost in a way Demon Souls way.
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>>483557418
i'm gonna finish this dlc at level 200, i don't what level 150 you are talking about
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>>483557606
even at 60 you should have ~40vig which is enough. Use ritual shield and defense buffs. Stack statuses, don't panic roll, you can do it
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>>483557292
contrary opinion

entire finger questline sucked dick
it was a single good bossfight
two ring-the-bell quests in COMPLETELY FEATURELESS ruins, with only a single enemy type in the whole area, no architecture, no exploration, no tunnel systems or dungeons
just run into a great big empty area and toot a whistle
and there's not even an animation like I expected the terrain to wake up or something, hell the bell doesn't even move
a player poses and makes a sound effect, that's it

and the count ymir fight was just some npc shit, okay he summons a few creepers but that's basic
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>>483557674
Stert
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>2024
>complaining about Malenia, of all things
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>>483557584
he played bloodborne he knows whats up
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>>483557606
I did it at 70 with the power of star fist proc cheese, just don't charge the R2 it's too slow.
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>>483557670
>my ''build''
>RL200
kek
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>>483557541
that's the intended way to fight him though
and it's only +9
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>>483556890
Ok nevermind this barely took 20 minutes.
You were right his attacks have very clear tells once you step back and watch carefully.
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My mule save is DLC ready
Time to Invade
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>>483557504
>perfumes
>knives
>crab
>flesh
>turtle neck
>sleep pots
>frost pots
That's what I'm using all the time and is just on my bars lol
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>>483557785
>2197
>still saving thumbnails
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How do I get past the storm spin2win nigger on the way to leda? He always 2 shots me
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>>483557374
Lightning perfume isn't special, rolling sparks is, and it can apply to any of them but the poison one
The only reason lightning is used is most of the dlc enemies resist both fire and magic damage but not lightning
you'd be better off with a cold perfume bottle build against the lightning dragon for example

Also the thrown weapons have god tier scaling with infusions
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>>483557606
they removed the ways to cheese him.
it's disgusting.
you used to be able to jump off the map to beat him
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>>483557504
Me too. Everyone's bars look so messy, I only want my healing and physick on there.
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>>483556945
The one that fits the character's theme the most, I use the Warhawk on this guy whenever I feel lonely because those fucking hacks didn't think to make a companion system with Melina DESPITE MAKING HER YOUR FUCKING TRAVEL BUDDY AND GIVING HER ACTUAL MOVES TO USE IN COMBAT, HACKYAZAKI
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>>483557894
parry him
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>>483557785
Sekiro parrying has brainrotted fromsoft players just as much as i-frame dodge rolling has brainrotted the entire action RPG genre.
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>>483557785
they have a point but i don't like that artist therefore they're wrong
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guys...is it still beating the game if you use faith?
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>>483557785
nevermind, he's retarded
>remade character to fight grafted scion
>100 attempts for first dungeon ulcerated tree spirit
100% he's the type of person who spent hours fighting tree sentinel and margit instead of exploring
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Next game they should make the open world almost completely empty like SotC and just have it serve as ambiance between dungeons.
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I didn't summon Freyja at the dancing lion did I fuck up?
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>>483557780
The lore and atmosphere was peak cosmic horror though? Even if the ruins didn't hold any epic crafting books that I'd never use anyway I'll cherish those moments of slowly creeping between fingers on the lookout for hidden enemies.
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>>483557830
yeah so funny doing the same meme over and over and not even reading the posts, fuck off.
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>>483556945
For me it's the vulgar militia lads. Hopelessly outclassed by everything but they will get one bleed proc before dying, godspeed you midget assholes.
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>Hostcel summons for Radahn
>Does nothing phase 2 just stands back hoping I'll solo
fucking hostcels
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>>483557830
what's up with the RL autism? by playing the base game and killing everything you end up at around level 150, with the dlc level 200 is easily reachable
i can't see how you can stay at level 125 besides throwing your runes away just for your meta sperging
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>apparently you get a weapon and ash of war from an invader at the church of crusade
>weird i didn't kill him
>go to the church
>no invader
I either killed him and he didn't drop it or he doesn't invade anymore i guess
Feeldbadman
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>>483557951
I still don't really see how the Sekiro parrying is functionally all that different from just rolling and using a shield
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>>483556448
Yes
>>483556485
No, he didn't abandoned her. He went to the Land of Shadows to mutilate himself and become a god, to have enough power to cure Malenia once and for all.
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Some areas in this new map are so big yet so full of nothing. I realized this after I entered the fingers area
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I found Anna Puppet at Rabbath Rise. What to do with it?
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>>483558110
The other way around for me: I had this guy attack in the church but not in Belarut, I would like to get his sword tho
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>>483556229
a friend summoned me to help him kill messmer with this build and he was unironically upset by how fast I killed him and said I ruined the experience and made it too easy...
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>>483556945
Latenna
She's the only ash where you're the one desperately trying to attract aggro away from her
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>reached Radahn
Holy shit what is his goddamn phase two. I can't deal with this much pressure
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>>483558168
It is specifically that finger area. What was From thinking?
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>>483558029
remove the open world. just make it all dungeons. fuck your empty shit you zoomer
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>>483558150
Miquella isn't going to survive this...
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>>483558168
full of a million cookbooks and low level upgrade materials but no skibidi
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>>483558130
It's not really, at the end of the day you just click the invincibility button at the right time. The difference is that rolling looks dumb while deflecting looks neat
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>>483557951
I still sword and board any from game that lets me, it's the most aesthetic experience.
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>>483557515
Confusion because a giant femboy demon-looking mohg-ass dragon is somehow scarier than the Elden Beast, the eldritch horror being's watchdog-guardian-rules lawyer-etc
Which. makes sense? But I want to impregnate the former and /pet the latter. So my standards might be a bit messy.
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>>483557705
I'm sorry, anon, I will do it right this time.
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>>483558150
>>483556448
>>483558236
Miquella is the top.
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>>483550863

I don't give a shit about the skibidi buffs. The DLC wasn't hard to begin with since I was using Fingerprint Stone Shield+Antspur Rapier to demolish every boss and enemy. This shit makes no difference to my experience.
Did they finally make it so that skibidi blessings persist on subsequent NG+ cycles so that I don't always start at zero every single time I access the DLC on a new cycle?
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>>483557785
Not entirely wrong, bosses have too many roll catches and are kinda bullshit. Ashes exist solely to mitigate this for the single player experience. Malenia in particular has an attack which is undodgeable. It's just two swings but the delay means that it's impossible to roll through both. Even if you're fast rolling and roll through the first swing, the second swing comes before the roll animation is done but while you're not invincible. Shit like that is idiotic design.
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>>483558197
Bring Josel ashes to combine them
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How does the group password erg work? I want to read some tips from people here.
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>>483557710
Man, why did we get some stupid finger bonk as a remembrance reward instead of a cool quasar hyper sorcery
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>>483558021
>he
Once you realize she's a woman it makes sense.
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Damn
I'm not sure if Igon even did much, but his yells filled my heart with determination, and we BTFO Bayle incredibly quickly.
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>>483550863
Ymir also was into making sex puppets, you find Jolan's sister's body hidden in the Rise but can only reach the secret room after dropping down from the Shaman Village
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>>483558130
it's literally the same as rolling without the character displacement. people just wet themselves over those *PLING* sound effects
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>>483558021
Counterpoint: centurii-chan makes based porn so I don't care you're wrong
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>>483558295
Miquella's cock isn't big enough
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does the buffs for the skadutree levels make the final DLC boss easier or not?
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>>483558130
I don't know either. It's just more fun. Honestly I fucking loved fighting Rellana and Putrescent Knight with it
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So now that Elden Ring is over, what are you hoping for in the next game?
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>>483557948
You fr? How
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>>483558536
echo night beyond 2
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>>483557292
>>483557780
I agree with you about the quest being unfinished trash that feels glued on, but the way I see it the content (and all of the marika content IMO) is a leftover scrap from the cancelled DLC and they just wanted to keep that specific boss in because its fucking cool.
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>>483558130
I think what improves it is that you also have a dodge and a jump in Sekiro. It's nice when you have to correctly respond with one of mulitple options instead of just the same one. Lies of P did this really well with having dodges and parries both equally useful.
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>>483558536
I'm hoping whatever it is, it's smaller and more focused.
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>>483556878
Yea now do it to Super Saiyan Radahn
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>>483558527
I really just want to know what the exact values are. I'm a little worried that the fucking Chinese ruined the game.
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Today I learned women are very horny for Messmer the impaler.
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>>483558536
I hope if they decide to make things just as fast/faster I won't have to play as DS1 guy
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>>483558236
He got himself childbearing hips to fit it all nice and snuggly.
>>483558295
Yeah anon... keep yourself on your own delusions
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>>483558217
That's the fun part, you dont.
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>>483557606
Ping pong him from the entrance to the coccoon with someone else. Use rot, poison and bleed on a bow, crossbow or seal.
Pretty doable. If you are on PC i could help.
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>>483558536
I am hoping for going back to the roots and making something DeS or DS1 style with diverse dungeons and no open world collectathon shit. condensed gameplay instead of widely spread nothingness and copy paste dungeons with godskins.
but i know that won't happen so i am just waiting for the Lies of P DLC
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>>483558536
BB2
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IT DOESN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT TO BEAT THIS GAME WHEN YOU CAN JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF, IGNORE BOSSES COMPLETELY, AND BLOCK EVERYTHING WITH THE FINGERPRINT SHIELD.

THEY WILL STILL CLAIM JUST AS MUCH CREDIT FOR BEATING THE GAME AS YOU, WHO BEAT IT WITHOUT CHEESING, THOUGH.
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>>483558671
>women turned on by evil men whom they think they can fix
this is news?
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>>483557731
i do no damage to him i can't dodge his shit for 30 minutes straight
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wtf dual uchi is THAT trash now?? bleed doesn't proc for me anymore
is a single uchi better lol
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>>483558281
...what the fuck???
was that even a coherent thought??
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>>483558536
I am hoping they go back to the Sekiro formula desu
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Holy shit, Midra's grab is brutal, it actually made me squirm to see the character's spine getting compressed like that
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>>483558671
He's pretty hot honestly.
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how do you avoid radahn's gravity pull?
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>>483558614
Nta but that's unironically how I've beaten him, his phase 2 moveset is more varied but he still sometimes gets caught in parry loops like in phase 1
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>>483558217
the attacks from radahn himself are mostly the same at least so if you can dodge the swings in phase one you can dodge them in phase two
the issue is just Miquella's lasers so you need to dodge into him, and even then you might just bump into an AoE because that entire phase is aids
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>>483558536
less open world and legacy dungeons, more levels like the DLC catacombs and caves.
Less aoe spam and other bullshit. Main gauche but for heavy thrusting swords and other great weapons. More ashes with extra movement, less op stuff like Mohg's / waves of gold. Better world/lore without Zaki's fetishes and cliches
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>>483558536
Elden Ring DLC 2, Elden Ring 2, Bloodborne 2 if Sony isn't involved
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>>483558536
I'm done after this. The dungeon crawling, questing and build-making have been de-emphasized too much for my taste. These games are not made for me anymore, they aren't even in the same genre they started out in.
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>>483557710
How the fuck do you dodge this? I just facetanked it
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>>483558536
They really should just add dating already
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>>483558794
roll
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>get to bayle
>put down sign
>immediately summoned
>host didn't summon the igor guy that people say is kino
>host at skippy5
>his friend dies pretty much immediately
i did learn that you need good fire resistance for the fight so it's not wasted but rip that guy
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>>483558591
You can jump, dodge, block and parry in Elden Ring, too, though.
I get that those systems are more robust in Sekiro, but again, it's functionally the same.
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What happens if I didn't summon NPCs to kill the bosses? Fuck that, summoning is cringe.
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>>483558763
Messmer isn't even evil desu. The only reason you even fight him is because he's in your way and he's kindling, that's all.
>BUT DEMIGOD-
Nigga doesn't even have a great rune
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>>483558591
True. Sekiro wouldn't be nearly as fun if you didn't also have the jump and step dodge
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>>483558762
>CLAIM JUST AS MUCH CREDIT
If your only source of validation is video games you have bigger issues.
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>>483558794
you roll through it so you don't get pulled in
if you do, you run away and then jump when he is about to slam to avoid the ground AoE
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thoughts?
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>>483558849
ok, see you next game thread. we all know you're gonna cave again
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>>483557515
Pretty cool. I absolutely loved the Abyssal Woods. Very memorable first experience

>Get into the super foggy part of the DLC
>Run face first into one of the Aged Ones
>Don't have a parry shield on me and I never parries in ER
>Running blind through the swamp while hearing the sounds of the Aged One chasing me

That, and all the messages in the ground telling me to give up fighting the Aged Ones made for a very memorable area
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>>483558971
>strongest arc weapon
>is a fucking kfc wing
what were they thinking
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ashina is the land of reeds btw. just saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>483557480
Throw a furnace pot into the golem to revive it so it gets out of the way, then kill it
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>>483558971
Fair.
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>>483558853
You roll. This boss never hurt me at all and I killed it first try. She's basically an extremely retarded Rom
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>>483558765
>stack statuses
literally, all of them
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>>483558971
GOAT
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>>483559023
What the fuck kind of KFC are you going to anon
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>>483558971
I just stunlocked Rellana to death with this >>483556229 build, so I'd say pretty good.
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>>483558671
>>483558763
First time?
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>>483556771
>What the fuck is Enir-Ilim?
Hornsent getting ahead of themselves and making a Tower of Babylon using the Crucible Spiral to ascend and become Outer Beings. They were making good progress, until Bayle attacked Placidusax, weakened the (then) reigning Elden Lord's grip on things, which tipped the balance of the Outer Beings influence, which let the Greater Will begin to make moves. It appealed to the last remaining Shaman Empyrean, Marika (a race which despised the Hornsent, because the Hornsent hunted them down to turn them into Living Jars due to their compatibility), sent down the Elden Beast (after Metyr failed), at which point she proceeded to escape to the Lands Between snatched Godhood for herself (as a vassal for an Outer Being, not an Outer Being), took over the Erdtree (which the Greater Will is a parasite of, feeding off of the divinity that the Hornsent Crucible was generating), then sent Messmer back later on to ultragenocide the Hornsent forever, burn all their shit to the ground and cloak the Tower of Bablyon in eternal shadow. She was too late to save the rest of the Pagan Shamans, and while she didn't tell Messmer why he was crusading against the Hornsent, she just told him to redirect any regret he had about it to her (she thought he'd hate her, but he loved his mommy 'til the end).
>What the fuck is the Gate of Divinity?
The half-finished product of that Hornsent research.
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can you double the heart like a remembrance, or you need to choose one per NG?
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>>483556945
Dung Eater
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>>483559010
All setpiece areas to the South are excellent.
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>>483558536
Elden Ring 2nd DLC
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>>483558896
Yes, but what's off is the balance between them. You only really roll OR block, there's very few players who are rolling two attacks, blocking the next three, rolling another, and then parrying. Elden Ring should have gone way harder on attacks you have to jump that can't be rolled.
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>>483559087
it turns out so long as you're at least somewhat attractive women dont care what your crimes are
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>>483559037
Oh, really? I saw a message implying that, and I tried the giant fire pot, but nothing happened.
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>>483558825
I am doing ok with radahn's attack. He does have one attack chain where the second swing catches me before I can roll again, and also there's just the fact his health just seems so fucking bloated that it just means more chances to fuck up, like holy shit
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>>483559153
only one, it's an actual physical heart.
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just finished the dlc and realized my brother kinda looks like miquella. picrel
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So why does malenia heal on every hit?
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>>483558441
He doesn't do much damage no, but his job is to be your hype man, which he does very well
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>>483558769
bleed is definitely still strong, but you typically need to infuse occult or bleed for it to actually be a significant factor

dual wielding falls off later in the game when you can just spam ashes of war for damage
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The real loser of the DLC is Leonard
>Radahn loved him with all his heart
>Denied being an Elden Lord to be with Leonard
>Broke the laws of physics to be with Leonard
>Held destiny in place while a living-dead zombie to forever be with Leonard
>Miquella refuses to take no for an answer through all this, and forces Radahn and Leonard apart ("so called" God of Love)
Honestly tragic.
Small horse accidentally caused a continental genocide.
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>>483558971
The new meteor shard greatsword looks cooler, has a cooler skill, and is still a really good weapon for STR/ARC.
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>>483558762
isn't it a (You) problem if you don't feel the satisfaction they do?
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Myazaki is such a massive liar about the DLC's size.
It's like several limgraves + Weeping Peninsula + a chunk of Caelid stacked on top of each other. I won't be surprised if it's almost as big as the main game if you stretch it all horizontally. This is literally a sequel within the game, with significantly higher quality of content all around.
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>>483559153
One per NG
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>>483559271
fuck off malenia, dirty fujoshi
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why is everyone a faggot
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is there an updated character planner yet?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dylyeeZQ4Hw

Messmer's theme is pretty kino
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>>483559075
The best kind
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>>483558926
>your only source of validation

where was this said anywhere? im just tired of the really difficult challenging game having a way to basically just ignore all of the difficulty. skill should be rewarded, cheese should be mocked incessantly. we now live in a dying world where the opposite is true.
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>>483558536
slow, methodical combat
magic-only
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>>483558769
All the dlc bosses have insane status resistance growth lije fucking monster hunter. After two bleed triggers they all become virtually immune.
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>>483558849
>didn't like Elden Ring
>Kept buying Elden Ring content
>Complains it was never for him
Why did you even play this? The only good thing about this DLC is that it forced you to dungeon crawl to get to more areas>>483558853
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>>483558130
The only difference is that the Sekiro parrying doesn't have much down time so you can parry attacks in rapid succession. Dodge rolling however has end lag basically, where after you roll, you have to wait a second for your roll to finish until you can roll again, and you're vulnerable at the end of your roll. So a lot of attacks can hit you out of the end of your roll, like that one quick double slash that Radahn does. Instead if you use that Sekiro physique, you can just perfect block it.
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Iā€™m currently level 200 on NG+ and I think Iā€™m gonna stop leveling for now. Currently 80 INT but I only use sword sorceries (slicer, piercer, hammer, etc) because I prefer to still fight in melee range. Should I respec and take some points away from INT and put it into DEX? Maybe Knock INT to 60 and bring dex up to like 35-40?
Looking at using the Great Katana or one of the new weapons but I donā€™t know if itā€™s worth it over just using a cold-infused weapon.
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>>483559339
would you rather he lie and the dlc be just as big as the main game or would you rather he lie and it turns out its just as big as leyndell
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>>483558536
Sekiro but set in a different country than Japan
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>dual spear gankers trying to fight dueling shields
RETRIBUTION, BITCHES
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>>483559339
You can overlay it on the terrain and it occupies all the empty ocean space in the middle of the map plus cuts into the terrain on each side
its about 70% of the size of the base game, and about the same ratio of unfinished filler areas
sure this game has empty ruins and empty long hauls through forests but guess what, original game had mountaintop of the giants
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>>483558775
Yes. I'm a disciple of Godwyn the Dragonplapper's and Vyke the Dragonromancer's teachings.
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>>483559315
>Miquella the rapist was jealous of a horse
checks out, he seems like the kind of psycho who would remove everything else you love and socially isolate you, just so you can only love him.
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>>483559316
That greatsword is probably my favorite in the game. Holy fuck it's so good.
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>>483559360
Why aren't you?
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>>483559339
it's fucking massive but some areas are a bit too empty and could've used a weapon drop or a boss I think
quality has some extreme highs but dips a lot at the very end
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>>483559492
>Sekiro but you're a rowdy Englishman with a basket hilted sword and alehouse dagger
I'm in
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>>483559471
There is realistically no reason to ever push that much above 200 if you hit your VIG and main Damage stats final soft caps
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>>483559203
Messmer literally did nothing wrong.
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>>483559501
>and about the same ratio of unfinished filler areas
All the less densely packed areas are either scenic vistas or gimmick areas which is fine, and they still have a good deal of content. It's not like a fucking Snowfield which was just boring and empty.
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>>483559408
>skill should be rewarded
It's only rewarded if you make an impressive no hit run and post it on youtube for views.
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>>483559587
he tried to kill me when i was perfectly willing to hear him out, i got a right to defend myself
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>>483559316
where do you get it?
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>>483559492
Byzantine: Rome Falls Twice
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>mausoleum npcs are unable to deal with me just spamming double slash
lmao
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>>483556345
FELLAS PLS
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Why is From so insistent on always making endgame spells fucking disappointing
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>Beat Radahn twice, one time hitless, pre nerf
Feels good to have actually beaten the game
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So I think I've explored all, or most of what I could explore so far.
Which big dungeon should I tackle first?
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cream API/koalagedon/smoke api chads is it safe to open steam and update?
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>>483558130
People equating Sekiro's parrying to ER's defensive maneuvers forget that the former's is both an alternative way to deal damage, and a superior method.

You can't just up straight parry a super flurry and delete 25%, 33%, or 50% of a boss health with a single riposte here unless you're on some cracked high level build on NG0.
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>>483559542
Even Charo's Secret Grave has several cool weapons, ashes of war and a dungeon on top of just being an eye candy.
I wish it was easier to craft the skeletal summon grenades, shit is good for pvp.
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Why das3 troons still pretend that niggerflame of backstep spam through entire room and spamming anime shit from there if she ever gets hit, retarded berserk oc and hp bloat niggerdragon were good bosses?
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>>483559495
I haven't tried a dueling shield, what's the gimmick?
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>>483559703
All of them at once
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>>483559271
buy him a white dress
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>>483559628
No hit runs are really easy in SotE tbqh
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>>483559682
you WILL use glintstone pebble and you WILL be happy
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>>483559339
It has some sparse parts that are pretty disappointing and don't feel rewarding, but overall I think it's what the base game should've been to begin with. It actually feels like Dark Souls map design applied to an open world
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>>483557606
I killed him at level 1 no weapon upgrades, in essence simply poison and rot him with shortbow arrow spam and summon a +10 ash you like (ash upgrades do not affect your multiplayer summoning level)
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>>483559765
Guard frames out of asshole on almost entire moveset. Anyone trying to spam into you gets punished.
Also has fantastic moveset for pvp, it's all pokes and several moves combo into each other similar to Milady.
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>>483559765
You attack and block at the same time
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I bet the final boss of the DLC isn't half as bad as people are pretending it is
It's going to be the same shit as every other final boss where people cry their eyes out
>WAAAAAAAAH MALENIA IS IMPOSSIBLE EVEN WITH SUMMONS AND CRUTCH KATANAS TWO BLEED AND FROST I CANT KILL HER THE HEAL IS BULLSHIT I REFUSE TO LEARN HOW TO DODGE WATERFOWL EVEN MY IFRAME ASH CANT SAVE ME NERF IT FROM NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT
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>>483557785
Got a point you know.
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>>483559628
then what are we even doing here? why not just use CE at that point and make it so you're invincible and one R1 kills anything instantly? did you still "beat the game" then? it's just the lamest most pathetic shit ever, and i hate to see it celebrated by the community when streamers find the loophole to make one of the few challenging games still being made into a baby game.

idk... i think i just need to get off social media entirely. im just gonna play the game and stop talking to people on the internet, it just makes me mad how much the human race sucks. just a constant disappointment.
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>>483559507
>also abandons another horse onto you
i thought troons were supposed to love horses
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>>483558765
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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You beat the game pre-patch or post-patch
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>>483559838
>It actually feels like Dark Souls map design applied to an open world
Oh yeah, it's like an open world version of Dark Souls 1 if you think about it.
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>>483559887
I kinda hope FromSoft won't adjust the difficulty because the player is meant to use literally everything at their disposal if they can't just dodge through it normally
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whats the best build/weapon for comfy guard countering? I've tried shortswords, zweihander for range, hammers for stance damage, and that new greathammer for the bonus damage effect on guard counters, but nothing feels right
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>>483559703
kill Messmer before Rellana
turn her into a sex slave for misbegotten
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>>483559935
Why not take that anger out on the people who made such exploitable builds possible?
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>>483559408
Please go outside, you are tying your worth to a videogame again
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>>483560000
Hopefully, they didn't listen to all the whining about malenia so there is hope.
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I want to go home and then edge
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>>483559507
That's hot...I wouldn't mind...
Going to sleep next to Miquella and waking up locked in his house...doing bad things and he threatens you with bewitching branches...kissing him and looking in his golden eyes realizing he's (slowly) stealing your heart even more, but never totally because he doesn't want to fully mind control you as that would bore him...
You also need to relieve him constantly, you can't let the rapist loose, you know. It's your duty as a human being...
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>>483559585
Yeah Iā€™m at 60 vig and 80 int for that reason. Just trying to figure out if itā€™d be better if I scaled that back and dipped more into Dex/Str since Iā€™m still fighting in melee with sword sorceries + main hand weapons.
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>skibid +5 with Rellana fight
>"Hey, it's not that bad. you can still get hit multiple times without instantly dying"
>her phase 2 killed me in 2 hits
Jesus christ
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Messmer the implier becomes Messmer the based snake.
He is literally 4chan.
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>>483559929
the sekiro connection was already disproven
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Iā€™m gonna respec. What ARC weapon should I try out?
Iā€™m at Consort Radahn and am probably gonna resort to bleeding him
Was using the Dragon Killer Great Katana
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>>483560001
heavy thrusting swords, obviously
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>>483559929
Literally two different attacks you lying dumbfuck
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just saw bayle's second phase for the first time
holy fuck he is cool
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>>483560180
BIG
MEATY
LEG
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>>483559929
I see the shitters are still trying to push the "Malenia was a Sekiro boss" meme
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>>483560180
i don't think that nigga bleeds
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>>483559929
I think the funniest thing about this webm is that it tries to make you think that 3-5 years of development were spent solely on this attack.
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Which OST is this one?
https://youtu.be/qLZenOn7WUo?si=SvDtwnwSkyywZYtk&t=60
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ARE YOU BEAR MAXING ANON?
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Listen here you fucker, I got this stupid mask on, the arcane heirloom, marika's soreseal and the fucking silver scarab as well.
So you best fucking drop those gloves and chest piece before I spend three fucking hours here killing you over and over again, making you wish Destined Death was genuinely released in a gameplay perspective and deaths were permanent.
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>>483560223
I've only killed six of the remembrance bosses so far in the DLC, Bayle being the latest and frankly I don't think anything is going to top him. Insanely fun fight and everything about the lead-up, the arena the music and design it's all so kino.
He's just behind midir for best dragon fight.
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>>483560281
Old version of Renalla's theme, it's not in the game and you can only hear it in the trailer.
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>>483558971
Mmm, spicy chicken wings.
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>>483560001
I like the greatsword counter
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>>483560281
That's just Rellana's theme but EPIC
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>>483558110
gotta fight him in Belarut first, then at the church and then he can be found in the Shadow Keep church district
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What site/ program did the anon who posted this a few threads ago use?
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>the new anti status talisman doubles your resistance from 30 seconds up to 2 minutes depending on the type of ailment you've been inflicted with
>makes it nearly impossible to bleed you out for 45 seconds after being inflicted with bleed
>all in one talisman so you don't have to switch around
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>>483560180
Chicken wing
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i should convince my brother picrel to play elden ring too
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>golden chicken legs and bird shirt increase kicking damage for hand-to-hand build
>however, they look retarded
game is hard
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>>483560318
Bears are for gays. Sorry, but I'm doing dragon communion with my wife.
>>483560429
Fuck off Malenia, Radahn isn't here.
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>>483559703
Belurat first. After that itā€™s open-ended.
Ensis (#2) is easy but I got rofl stomped by the boss for a while so Iā€™d say to do all of it except the boss after Belurat.

If you havenā€™t yet, do the Finger quest to get the crimson seed +1 talisman, boosts your effective health by a ton
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>>483560370
*Rellana
Fuck these names
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>>483559642
i believe from one of the lava forge dungeons
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>fight redahn AGAIN
>but he's got some little faggot hanging on his back
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>>483560429
God, what type of bad karma did you have to have this body as a male?
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>invade church
>host is nowhere to be seen
>another bloody finger invades
>starts attacking me for some reason
>avoid him while trying to make it plain I dont want to fight
>find host
>as soon as I see him connection error occurs
what just happened
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>>483559935
ER is only challenging if you intentionally don't use things the game provides you. If that's the case, any game becomes hard. Zelda stick only, AC6 with just the base mech, any Monster Hunter game challenge runs, pistol only runs in most games...
The issue is that fromsoft games aren't nearly as hard as people like to think they are and insane schizos in need of validation keep adding conditions where what they used was the only "correct" way to win and anything easier is cheating.

It's fucked up how much you faggots have wrecked discourse on these games. On DS1's release it was accepted that parrying Gywn is normal but now you'd have a bunch of mediocre players with way too much enotional investment in the game scream YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME
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>invading with GS of Damnation
>host + phantom + bluenigger
>impale the blue nigger KO
>impale the host KO
>impale the phantom KO
it feels really good, shiting on retards.
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>>483560370
>>483560386
The Japs are hacks, I knew it bore semblance to her current theme.
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>>483559757
>Get so mad just remembering that GOD Souls 3 exists that you become an unintelligible sputtering mess.
Many such cases!
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>>483560474
>what should we call renallas sister
>uh idk rellana
bravo george rr martini
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>lamenter's gaol
everything looks the same in here please stop screaming at me i'm lost
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Example of an unfair attack that is difficult to dodge:
>Gaius' Charge
>can see it coming from a mile away
>has a lingering hitbox that requires perfect timing in order to roll through
>no easy tell on when the hitbox is actually going to hit you so you just have to time it on distance
>he can even do the attack twice in a row so when you're recovering from getting hit the first time he can do it again and hit you as you're standing up
An example of a fair, difficult to dodge attack
>Malenia's waterfowl dance
>obvious tell when it's going to happen which prepares you to dodge
>gaps in different portions of the attack which give you a chance to change how you're dodging it
>only does it at set portions of time when you've removed specific amounts of her hp
>clean hitboxes that allow you to roll through the attack perfectly if you do it correctly
>with practice you can dodge it every single time it happens
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>>483560512
>The issue is that fromsoft games aren't nearly as hard as people like to think they are and insane schizos in need of validation keep adding conditions where what they used was the only "correct" way to win and anything easier is cheating.
This is why when I tried to do a RL1 run I gave up. I realized If I went this way I would just say "yeah but the weapons are upgraded? great runes/stats boosts are a thing so isn't rl1? status effect abuse? overpowered weapons? buff stacking???" so now I just use whatever I want having fun
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>>483560429
I'm concerned that I can't tell the age of this individual. JANNIES, FACT CHECK THIS NIGGER!
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>>483560512
I play solo and without ashes of war/summons because I appreciate the bosses and want to learn them.
I won't insult people for summoning or using cheese unless they also cry about how "unfair" "bullshit" etc etc a boss is whilst refusing to improve with trial and error.
At that point you're just a coping shitter.
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>>483560094
what you don't like 1 (one) horizontal slash to deal like 70% of your health?
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How do people die to phase transition attacks? They're literally the exact same move that comes out consistently at the free time.
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>>483560429
Ain't no way. I wouldn't last a day with a brother like that.
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>>483559703
>So I think I've explored all, or most of what I could explore so far.
Abyssal Forest is + has a dungeon
Flooded Church District has a boss in an underground area
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>>483560268
Indeed, more people talking out their fucking ass, and the DLC proves Malenia wasn't even an important character in the story or to From
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Some Lore Schizo pls give me a QRD on Midras
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>>483560664
>I abandoned my run because I'm retarded
Lmao
One of the most fun runs I've still ever done was SL1 DS3. Why are you actively cucking yourself out of a good time?
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>>483558889
>noting down skibidi levels for bael
5
2
12
12 W
20
6

it feels like it takes several times as many hits to frost at 6 as it does at 12. and 20 doesn't feel much different from 12.
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>>483560784
forgive me, Nanaya...
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>>483560784
he played bloodborne and made it his whole personality
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>>483560339
I thought so too, but honestly I think he might be better than even Midir for me. Just so over the top. Definitely my favorite dragon fight.
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>>483560180
bleed backhand blade
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>>483553514
>fire knight seal
>scales with STR and FTH
The STR scaling does not apply to incant scaling like the clawmark seal
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>>483560429
That's a woman. (Female).
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>>483560169
>>483560217
>>483560230
>>483560268
>no proof
>no arguments

>>483560404
looks like google docs
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>>483560770
The biggest takeaway is that Radahn not only beat Malenia, but cucked her, too.
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>>483560676
No, I don't rike it
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Is erg still the group password?
Want to throw my sign down for BAYLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE because I feel empty now that he is dead.
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>>483560820
>misses the point
good job.
>one of the most fun runs i've still ever done was sl1 ds3
good for you.
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>>483560915
Your tranny lord Zullie disproved it
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How do i dodge point blank waterfowl? I always think she is going to do the thrust attack and when i realize its waterfowl its already too late to run
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>>483560318
>Can't see shit
Sorry your screenshot is unbearable
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>>483560915
>Pulls random cope out of his ass
>P-please prove me wrong

Not my burden of proof. You are a shitter, you got hard filtered by Malenia and you need to stop coping
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>>483559315
>no 3rd phase where miquella falls off his back and dies
>radahn falls to his knees again
>but a light begins to shine on him
>"Ah, you were at my side all along"
>view pans to a glorius steed with a flowing mane
>"my faithful leonard"
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>>483560962
It should be but for some reason I'm no longer seeing highlighted messages or bloodstains from anons
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Is it just me or are the dryleaf arts just kinda weak? I like the moveset, but the damage seems rather bad, vastly outclassed by stuff like the backhand blades, while also having worse range, worse art and worse r2
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>>483561017
You can find videos on how to do it. You kinda have to circle around her before you start dodge rolling.
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Can Igon survive the Bayle fight? Is there anything cool if he does?
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>>483561074
You beat the game if you use them
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>>483561017
Sprint into her and run around the bottom of her, dodge in the opposite direction when she launches the attack.
Dodge roll sideways to i-frame the next flurry.
Last one is a little hard to describe you basically do a little wiggle and she just shoots over your head and misses you.
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>>483561074
you aren't meant to play the game however you want. please use S tier weapons, gaijin.
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>D INT scaling
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>>483555280
obviously
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im just rolling sparking everything. the damage on this thing is nutso but only offset by the fact that the perfume moveset is pretty shitty
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>>483559642
lava forge southeast from after rellana castle grace
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>>483561074
the damage is decent, not crazy but usable
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>>483560643
You know, the fact that this post isn't wrong is worrisome and an omen of things to come in future fromslop rollslop games.
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>>483561097
for me he said something like "I HAVE MY REVENGE" then spammed the dragon roar spell until he despawned
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>>483561180
LMAO
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Huh this is pretty damn significant
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>>483560784
Zanzibart
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>>483560514
This thing is absurdly fun.
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>>483560512
i feel like the problem isn't "you didn't beat the game", it's really "you didn't play the game". if you just ignored every enemy and boss's moveset, did you even play the game? you don't even know what they do. hell i saw a webm of some anon use the rolling sparks shit to just delete radahn in 5 seconds without seeing almost any of his attack animations. like, i get that you can do it, it's in the game. i guess i just don't see how that's fun. you aren't really getting the experience the game intends, you're just cheating yourself out of the experience imho. know what i mean? i know i could just ez mode the game too and beat every boss the first try on NG at RL333 while still fatrolling but it just seems lame and boring and i don't get why there are people out there who don't think it's lame and boring. like i truly can't empathize with people like that, it's like they're aliens.

i like the "i win" button analogy because that's what it feels like. did you really even play the game if you could just push a single button and win every encounter instantly at no cost? did you really "beat every boss" if you just pushed 1 button and you won instantly? i mean i guess technically, but you're cheating yourself out of the intended experience of "the more you lose, the better it feels when you finally win". if i could just push 1 button and win every round, i'd feel nothing. maybe shame and boredom.

i just don't get it if i'm being absolutely honest with you. i know you'll probably respond with some description of "anon you should know how terrible humanity is" and i already do, but that doesn't really solve the problem fundamentally.
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>kill bayle
>dragon waifu dies
no........
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>>483561319
>.05 is significant
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>>483561074
you have to double down on jumping R2s or spamming dryleaf whirlwind. game quite hard with them, but fun. i ran cold infusion for a while but i'm trying out some dex/fth shit with lightning infusion and buffing with golden vow and stuff, i'm not sure if it is better.
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>>483561264
Gaius is just an anomaly honestly. Messmer in particular is maybe the most fair boss in all of Elden Ring.
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>>483561198
What is it called?
Ruined Forge Lava Intake?
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>>483561180
It's a fucking katana, of course it's a dex weapon.
That said, I went through my inventory and noticed there isn't a single weapon that has S scaling with Int. What the fuck? Even DMGS, THE staple magic weapon has B. Not even A.
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>>483561319
x7 is what x10 was
amazing for early game, to be honest
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>>483560923
Radahn will let her watch
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>>483560784
shabriri paid him a visit and tried to get him to become lord of frenzied flame

He's enduring as best as he can. When you fight him he gives up on containing it and goes "Fuck it" and embraces the frenzy inside of him
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>>483561094
>>483561131
ER retards will convince themselves having to look up videos and/or reading paragraphs on how to dodge an attack is good game design. they will cope to the utmost to explain why people need to die before being able to find out how to dodge it themselves.
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>>483561351
that's why you need to date rape her first so she gives you her soul instead
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>>483561351
if you drugged her she would still be alive and she would thirst for you
you lost the game
restart
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>>483561342
>spear the ground 5 miles from th target
>they teleport underneath it
its like we never left ds2
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>>483561385
>It's a fucking katana, of course it's a dex weapon.
sneedveil gets a fucking B in both though
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>>483561319
You didn't beat the game if best it post patch, unless you are an INT player because I bet you they still didn't fix the damage
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>>483561342
>WA jumps over the waves of piss and dunks on 'em

beautiful.
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>>483560514
>>483561342
PvPfags, tell me, how's the Rakshasa set? Is it better at poisetanking than just equipping full bullgoat (with the benefit of extra DR)?
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>>483561494
barricade shield

also clowns on radahn btw
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Romina is a cool boss, it's just a shame that by the time the player gets there they're too strong
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>>483561351
Bro, your concoction? You could have taken her with you as a spirit summon
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>>483561494
Looking up videos is just the easiest way to figure it out. You could easily learn how to do it through trial and error, by just fighting the boss over and over and trying different ways to dodge it.
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>>483561385
I think S is mostly for physical damage, not split. Magic always comes with split damage and this doesn't really get high letter scaling
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>>483560542
>more das3tranny cope
go back to pontiff and your containment general filth
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>>483561342
sick
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>>483561494
>i am bad and wish to remain bad and do not wish to improve myself by learning
pitiful sort ahead
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>Lamenter's Mask
Nani the fuck is this
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HOW DO YOU DODGE RADAHN'S TRIPLE SLASH THAT ENDS IN A "X" I CANT FUCKING FIGURE IT OUT ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>483561572
>inb4 "you did not beat the game" autistic screeching
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>>483561573
would you kiss her?
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>>483561504
>>483561509
Huh? Wait, you can do that?
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>>483560784
His waifu was either an agent of Shabriri or just a dumb retard who brought an artifact of the Frenzied Flame from across the seas. He was infected and the hornsent inquisition caught a whiff of it. They sealed him up in a very painful way and he endures it for eternity. You try to put him out of his misery and he finally loses his temper because everyone around abuse him, removes the sealing greatsword and embraces his nature.
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>>483561350
Then how much damage is too much damage? If you stack damage buffs to deal a quarter of the bosses health with each attack, is that not playing the game because it's too much damage? Then what about a fifth? A sixth? A seventh? At what point does gimping your damage become "playing the game"?
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>>483561074
Their heavy attacks deal greatsword/greataxe level poise damage while coming out faster. Funnily enough, they work really well with a greatshield to guard counter enemies and staggering them for a crit.
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>>483561572
>chain heals all the damage you dealt to her


what a great strat
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>>483561669
Nta but I would.
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Huh.
Honestly, I don't particularily like either of them. What do I get for that though? I wouldn't mind getting Leda's armour
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>>483561669
yes
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>>483561370
>Messmer in particular is maybe the most fair boss in all of Elden Ring.
E N T E R
https://youtu.be/b72Vz2sPAuc?si=FmKLT4jyaH9SLz0t
https://youtu.be/BS4ZfIx2JpI?si=pmNNLIW3zUP_ef9-
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>you NEED to look up a video to find out how to dodge this move!
so uh
how did the first guys who figured out how to dodge it and made those videos find out how to dodge it?
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>>483561601
Well, why DON'T we have a non-physical magic only weapon? Like Cipher Pata, but for Int. It could be immaterial and go through shields as well.
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>>483561740
>>483561745
and on the centipede part?
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how is square off in pvp?
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>>483561734
>blocking a flurry heals for the same damage as ONE L1
oh no!
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>>483561662
Roll forward into him and take the free hits dummy
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>>483560672
I don't really understand how people can act like skipping entire phases of a boss is enjoyable. It's a boss you'll probably only fight once in the playthrough, and they just fucking press skip?
I don't see how you can even discuss the game at all with those types of people.
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>>483561760
too easy
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10 hours of co-op in DLC. I still haven't managed to beat a single boss as a yellow.
These fucking hosts man... Useless. I'm going insane.

Every 5 fails I do a few invasions. Every invasion is instant and every invasion I win because these hosts are fucking awful
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HAS THE PATCH FIXED THE PERFORMANCE ISSUES???
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>>483561760
>no grapple hand-to-hand weapon
Miyazaki is a COWARD
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>>483561742
leda dash attack talisman
hornsent of backhand blade dash attack ash of war
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>>483561569
I have no idea, i'm just using it because it's gorgeous
Doesn't look like i'm taking that much more damage.
His odachi does have a hidden hyperarmor value though, i've tanked through shit with it.
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>>483561572
What talisman did you use for this fight?
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>>483561726
this, basically dryleaf sucks for normal attacking, but charged r2s are really good at posture breaking, the fact that you're fast lets you use even tiny openings, and the dryleaf attacks take like no stamina
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>>483561825
My good fellow I am trying to do him hitless
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>>483555643
Just fight him on horseback. I have no respect for ancient dragon fights, some of the worst in the series.
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>>483561742
Help Leda to advance her quest line, or help Hornsent to get a broken ash of war.
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>>483561832
If they're having fun, who cares? It doesn't erase the fun that I'm having by playing the game with restrictions.
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>>483561843
Do invasions adjust your scadu tier?
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>>483561832
Yeah I don't get it either. Must just be a warped mindset.
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>>483561843
>increase the difficulty a little
>assume hosts can use spirit ashes and summons
>hostlets shit themselves and die
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>>483561319
>I just got a +25% boost from the patch

What the FUCK From
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>>483561823
so you would rather heal her then around and roll just sounds stupid to me you dodged the other parts too
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parry chads do you the buckler?
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Missed the only reaper in the dlc T_T
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Is any medium shield in DLC better than base game ones?
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>>483561843
Yeah, you want runes and rune arcs, you invade. If you're not hopeless or invade a boss fog, you WILL win because these enemies don't fuck around.
Shadow Keep is one of the best invasion areas in the series. Those fire knights tear people to shreds and zone shitters with extreme effectiveness.
>>483561947
Scadu tier does nothing for invaders. You just deal the base damage and take the same amount of damage as outside the shadowland.
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>>483561882
>hidden
It's literally written on it.
Both weapon and armor are intended to be used with your brain off.
>invade
>mash L2
But how well does it work, really?
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>>483562018
no because im not a parrychad because i cant parry
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dryleaf arts sprinting r2 makes it all worthwhile
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>>483561662
The Left-right-X? You can't unless you wanna trade a hit.
IIRC the guys who do insane no hit challenge runs say that even with light roll it's nearly frame perfect to avoid getting hit and spacing dependent.
Which is why most no-hits just block
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>>483561929
>nu-volibear.jpg
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>>483561936
They don't have fun though. They just go on to say how much they fucking hated the game, how bullshit it is and they're glad it's over with
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>>483562018
I use the red thorn shield because I think it looks cool.
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>>483561589
>You could easily learn how to do it through trial and error, by just fighting the boss over and over and trying different ways to dodge it.

honestly this is how you're meant to play the game. also the most satisfying, because when it finally "clicks" you know it was all you. you figured it out, no one else did it for you. you overcame that challenge. it's like no one in the modern world wants a challenge anymore, and that's sad.
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>>483561282
for me he kept infinitely swapping between two-handing and one-handing the bow
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>>483561813
probably too
I'll probably get scarlet rot if I do that though
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>>483561907
Nigga, rolling forward dodges the X because it hits behind you but not in front of him. You basically double roll the first two hits like the second hit in his normal combo that's the double slash and you then roll forward, hit him with a charged R2, then roll away his next cross swing or normal combo or jump his stomp attack
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>>483561350
You are a legit assburger, please seek help
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>>483562028
you mean scythe? specifically the one you get from ansbach's quest?
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>>483562132
>shield
>buffs
>greases
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
YOU DIDNT BEAT THE GAME
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>483562137
so it doesnā€™t matter?
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>>483562007
it's either do a very difficult dodge and possibly throw the fight or heal her for 1100 hp with zero risk
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>>483562050
>But how well does it work, really?
Against retards? Extremely well. On 80DEX Weed Cutter is like 1.2k damage in pvp.
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>>483562141
I don't like dying 100+ times because my brain has bad short-term memory.
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>>483562224
It doesn't matter as long as you put either carian retaliation or golden parry on the shield.
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>>483562132
>posting edited winscreens
didnt beat it
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>>483562201
Yep i killed him with leda and after beating the game i looked up stuff and i shouldn't have killed him
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>>483562132
>shield
>buffs
>greases
based, you beat the game
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>>483562132
CURSE YOU BAYLE
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what is the ghostflame faggot weak to?
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>>483562271
Why though?
If the fight is fun and you are making progress.
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>>483562247
>1.2k damage
I meant the poise/superarmor effect.
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>>483562316
miyazaki here, sorry bro! guess you'll have to do another ng+ run! haha!
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>>483561843
I've had a few victories getting summoned but most Hostcels are clinically retarded
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>>483562226
>possibly throw the fight

but that's what makes it all the sweeter
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>>483561891
phys def, flame scorpion, green turtle, arsenal; golden vow, FGMS; stamina regen, fire damage
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>>483561880
>>483561925
well shit, the ash sounds way better, but I don't want to ruin the questline too early I guess
I hope I don't regret it
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>>483562228
DUDE
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When ready

>>483562318 >>483562318 >>483562318

>>483562318

>>483562318
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>>483560318
> Fight red bear in the mausoleum
>His roar takes up half the srena and oneshots me in a huge damage burst
>Kill rugalea and try it myself
>No range and it just does a few low damage multihits that don't even stagger basic enemies
Holy fuck I got baited
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>>483562316
That's what you get for not fucking paying attention to the content
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>>483562390
not for me but it's valid if you get a rush from doing that
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>>483562029
lol no you're stuck with the brass one.
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>>483561371
no lava intake is to the south of it
i can't remember the name but it's fancy and it's in the ruins on the field with misbegotten niggers close to dryleaf dane and ghostflame dragon fighting the nearby messmer camp
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>>483562050
Haven't tried it yet, but in PvE it seems to trade into a lot of shit that would stagger me otherwise. I'll probably throw a bullgoat talisman for good measure.
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>>483562370
At the very least with full Rakshasa i can hyperarmor through smaller to mid sized armaments. Didn't try against greatswords.
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>>483562385
Thank you miyazaki but i'm good for now
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>>483561516
thats a base game weapon so its supposed to be better
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>>483553410
extremely low bar but still true
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>>483562496
I'm using scorpion but I thought so, I didn't have find anything better
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>>483561342
>Attacker-sided grab attack
It's fucking over holy shit
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>>483562029
there are some really nice looking medium shields
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>>483562094
Not him but I must be doing frame perfects then because that shit never hits me anymore
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>>483561882
>hidden
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>>483562362
It's fun when you mastered the first phase, but then the second phase hit you with some damaging attacks which lead to you redoing the first phase and dying in one-two hits in the second phase. I end up stuck repeating the first phase and can't remember shit in the second phase. Luckily, I can beat the bosses solo in the main game, but the DLC is unironically too tough for me like Isshin many phases.
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>>483562141
>You could easily learn how to do it through trial and error
>honestly this is how you're meant to play the game.
but it really isn't. the game has so many instant kill attacks that send you back to the loading screen and waste your time. how hard can it be to just leave someone with 60 fucking vigor at 20% health after a big attack/combo and just let them die off running out of pots? then you could actually learn the fight more easily because "that one attack" wouldn't invalidate the 10 attacks you dodged previously. it's just bad game design to cater to retarded fromsoft fans that will defend fromsoft for anything they do as long as it means having to beat the boss takes longer.
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>>483559935
>i think i just need to get off social media entirely
That's a good idea regardless.
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>>483561504
Do you still get her heart if you do that?
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>>483562414
"Killing her" doesn't ruin the questline because she respawns later and is pissed at you
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>>483561882
>His
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>>483562461
>he long presses
Short press for knock down, long press for wake up
Scales better with the Clawmark Seal and don't forget the Roar Medallion and the Highland Axe
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>>483562724
the thing that really changes isshin are knowing that his followup slashes to his combo are entirely dependent on your proximity. and how to deflect the running spear attack
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>>483562762
No, you get her dragonbolt incant and ashes instead
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>Wake up and see the nerfs
Holy shit I literally ended last night after I beat Radahn, fucking lucky.
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>>483562853
Yeah, but I can't remember shit past his first phase. I had to record video of the boss fights and watch the boss fight again and again. I am that bad.
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>>483562475
I was under the impression i had to choose one to progress quests and i liked leda more
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>>483562762
No, if you get her summon you can't get the heart and her weapon
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>>483554083
pvp will never be good until this game has rollback
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>>483561725
do you have to learn the boss's moveset or not? that's really the only question. maybe i'm just DS3-brained though, maybe ER just "isn't that kind of game" and i really should be blockmaxxing. it just feels bad if i use OP shit and summon and beat a boss on the first or second try and didn't have to really engage with whatever he was doing. "forgettable" fights. obviously i could do that, even in offline mode i could still summon spirit summons and NPCs. it would be insanely easy if i had help to simply draw aggro while i beat the shit out of the boss.

i play these games for the thrill, and winning a trivial fight is hardly thrilling. idk why it's so hard to explain, i thought all of us were on the same page with these games but i guess not. i thought everyone already knew the "the more you lose the better it feels when you win", the true dark souls experience. but i guess if you think it's worth $40 to shieldpoke radahn to death then you do you, but it's just so boring to me and ruins the fun.

So to answer your question: "too much damage" is relative to your skill level. Thinking about that now, maybe I really should just accept certain streamers are honest to god really *just THAT bad* and really need those crutches. You want the goldilocks zone of getting into "flow". However much damage you deal that makes the experience put you into that state, that's the right amount. Does that make sense? Pic related. It's like in any competitive sport or fighting game: you want someone who is around your same skill level, maybe a bit worse or a bit better. Beginners should fight beginners, experts should fight experts, masters should fight masters. Using all of the cheese in the game feels like a grandmaster fighting a noob. I just don't see the fun in that but again, to each his own i guess, I just don't get it personally.
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>>483561370
Messmer is rollspamslop with infinite tracking and a retarded 2nd phase.
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>>483561180
>"shit we had 2 years to work on this DLC and we only have 1 katana made"
>"uhhhh just use that old straight sword model we have lying around and make a katana out of it"
>"but sir the katana moveset won't make sense for a straight sword and it's a sorcery themed blade and we already have 2 INT katanas in the base game"
>"lmao who cares just ship it. also the other katana we made? it should also deal magic damage like these 3 other katanas"
bravo from
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>>483554579
I think this is your best option
Other than that, enjoy the fast lighting bolt casts I guess
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>>483558536
unironically sex scenes, if its ok for baldurs gate 3 Fia shouldn't be giving "hugs" i'm not 5.
and more dialogue and plots or you know having those in the first place rather than npc give you fetch quest, moves here, dies, the end.
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>>483562745
but you can, though? i hate to keep posting this video, but it seems like you need it:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsKV4scavc4

>>483562746
4chan is social media tho...
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>>483563337
that's a child
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>>483563478
that Zorayas you fucking meme shes a grown ass snek woman.
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>>483563478
out of 10!
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>>483563232
Even if you're planning a cheese no-hit run, it tends to have dozens or even hundreds of attempts where you need to figure out exactly which attacks have enough of a window to do your kill strat. The final result looks easy but most fights on the omega cheese strategies probably took a while to figure out how to do them without getting oneshot
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>>483557785
bottom is funner than top and I'm tired of pretending it's not
middle is like an awkward inbetween that manages to be worse than both
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>>483563478
>>483563549
you guys sometimes wonder how many people we interact with here are actual pedophiles?
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>>483563414
more like antisocial media
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>>483563812
bottom is for zoomers that NEED visual and sound effects every 0.35 seconds or they'll grow bored
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>>483563872
I'm usually on the splatoon general so I probably average higher than most
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>>483557785
they buffed her unless I just suck now, I can't roll triple slashes or the catch out follow up anymore even if I hit roll.
and waterfowl got me yesterday when I started running BEFORE she floated.
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my friend said elden ring sucked and wouldnt discuss it further when it came out
it took me 2 years to realize she was right
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>>483563414
God, I hate buffing, but it's better than getting 2 hit by bosses
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>>483557785
>>483563812
>>483563975
i played sekiro and hated it. i have no idea how it's as popular as it is. that said ive come from playing games like ninja gaiden where the gameplay isn't flowchart simon says shit and you are actually supposed to hit enemies from neutral.

my worst nightmare is fromsoft wasting more time on making more of these shitty quick time event games that get eaten up anyway because fromdrones have no taste
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>>483564349
you clearly didn't play it that much because mashing r1 and then reacting to the enemy's reaction is by far the easiest and most effective way to play sekiro
hesitation is defeat and all that
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>>483563607
idk, "hold the block button and poke, with maxed out defenses" doesn't seem particularly difficult to figure out, anon.
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>>483563414
it's unbelievably bullshit that the crab vendor is a permanently missable thing with how powerful boiled crab is
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>>483562349
sacred blade taking a couple thousand HP off it before you even account hitting with a weapon after
undead are an absolute fucking joke
and no WA scale off the weapon damage so no "b-but i need a fth build to use it" no you fucking don't sacred blade is busted and makes any undead a joke
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>>483563232
I think your problem is that you're assuming everyone finds enjoyment in the same things you do. Some people (like myself) enjoy making unique builds to absolutely destroy each boss, others like having a reliable build that they can use to smash through the game, others like making things as challenging as possible for themselves, and still others just want to get through the bosses so they can go back to the parts of the game that they personally enjoy more. Everyone has different tastes.
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>>483552775
>has absolutely no dialogue about you killing her brother or the lands of shadow in general
>not even additional seethe about Midra and frenzied flame
t-thanks miyazaki
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>>483563879
maybe that's why i like it so much here, lol.

>>483563872
i feel like the main issue is that pedos are real, they actually exist. this place gives you a rare chance to see some of what they're really like. you think they let anyone ever know about that shit irl? no, they probably have a strong persona, a mask they wear in public, acting like they're normal. you'd probably never know, if you were friends with them irl.

but on 4chan people can say almost whatever the fuck they want. they can truly be themselves without fear of repercussions due to anonymity, for most things. same with all of the bigotry here of every variety. *PEOPLE ARE REALLY LIKE THIS*. they just lie and don't tell you irl. but here you get to see the honesty, in all it's horrifying beauty. this is the human race. this is the side you don't get to see in public, one of the few places where people can truly be themselves, even if they're monsters.

and many are monsters.
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So wtf does euphoria actually do
it lights up when you get a chain of hits, which does ??? passively
then the weapon art goes from a vortex to a vortex with ??? when you release the charge
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>>483564236
the only buff you really need is the boiled crab tbhwy. heavy armor and talismans you don't need to worry about because they're always on, and the physick is a one-and-done-for-3-minutes thing. i also like popping at least one Bestial Vitality before a fight, too.
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>>483564481
i recall that being viable but not always. imo as soon as a game punishes you for attacking from neutral, even with only specific enemies, the game just becomes instant dogshit in my eyes. its also why souls games have become progressively worse because its becoming less effective to do so as they try to make bosses "harder" (read: more turn based)

>reacting to the enemy's reaction is by far the easiest and most effective way to play sekiro
yes that's my main problem with it, it's just a depressingly simple game to play where you just press a button based on what the enemy does, usually memorizing the fight beforehand. it's really nothing like an action game at all. i'm not too mad that fromsoft made it, but i am mad that there are people who actually laud it good in any way aside from the presentation
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>>483564738
there's always NG+, anon...
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>>483565245
>>483564738
and yet its fucking missable

there is so much missable build defining items and the doubled down on it in the dlc
didn't do the moore questline right? lmao you can't even kill him to get anything, he teleports the fuck away
impossible to get your verdigris set and shield now, its dick shitting nipples and a tombstone for you
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>>483564876
yeah, like i said, to each his own but i just don't "get it". honestly i think the problem is struggling with a boss and then seeing a streamer cheese it easily. it feels unfair that an easy cheese win counts the same as a hard fought win.
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>>483563259
oh my god i just realized this piece of shit was supposed to be a light greatsword until they realized they didn't have enough katanas
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>>483565517
these games are basically sandbox games in a lot of ways, anon. a jumbled mess of a toybox. this is why guides and patches' emporium exist. for example my brother is a completionist-type so i typically don't bother doing the quests and shit for items, i just have him drop me his after we've all completed the game so I can use my mule character for invasions.
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>>483565667
>watching streamer and feel his own victory is invalidated because of some streamers cheesing the game.
Anon, you have other problems to worry about.
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the only reason you think anything is missable is because you have OCD
don't worry though I haven't even ng+'d myself yet, for two moonlight swords or whatever.

thats my grievance, ng+ to pair most weapons cause you only get one copy and then the game basically tells you to go fuck yourself
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>>483565909
i like to see streamers suffer, and it makes me sad when they're gleefully breezing through the game like >>483558762 like they're playing Kirby's Epic Yarn.
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>>483565245
>killed him
Yeah, it's fucking over for me. I need to farm more skibidi shit then
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oh and copies of spells for only lore reasons and you can't even equip more than one of a spell, cause FP bar ruined everything for casters
although I don't miss endless wrath of the gods spam, it was simply FUN in ds1 and 2 to be able to stack a bunch of whichever spells and cast them as your weapon instead of chugging blue sunny D every five seconds
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>>483566094
Jesus christ, I know your self-esteem might be low ,but not that low. If you want validation, go play Ninja Gaiden and mock other actionfags in the thread..
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Is there any particularly effective way of killing mohg at a low SL or is it just a matter of getting good? I'm thinking about the next character I wanna try and how hard it would be to speedrun to the DLC for picking up stuff.
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>>483551201
I wish I could have fought him with Igon just to hear his dialogue, but I fucked up his questline.

Still Bayle is hella fun even solo.
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>>483558536
something like AC6
mission-based game means you can use whatever weapon during any part of the game, and there's nothing truly missable
also the game is so fun and short that replaying it for new missions and endings is a delight and much better than picking one of multiple options after defeating the final boss
From know how to deliver quality but they really can't handle a game that's longer than 20-30 hours and that's fine
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>>483566339
that's not low self esteem anon, that's schadenfreude. i don't see how your armchair psychology gets "low self esteem, validation, etc" when the argument is literally just "they're making the hard game trivially easy and that's fucking lame as fuck".

yeah im mad but it's the same kind of mad you get about people who say they "beat every souls game" and then you find out they summoned for every boss in every game. not like im suicidal over it, it's just lame and gay and i wish people weren't so lame and gay, but i guess i just have to accept that most people are lame and gay. i still think i'm personally awesome, that has nothing to do with this.
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>>483561043
congratulations you wrote something that doesn't make the final boss sound like shit
it really was that simple huh
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>>483567001
T. insecure bitch who got mad that streamers invalidate his only victory in life.
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>>483566853
bleed
the answer is always just bleed, cold and rot
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>>483567456
just like dancer back in the day, checks out
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>>483566853
probably bleed arrows with a crossbow

make sure you have the physick for resisting his curse if you cant into rolling through it

i dont recommend summoning friends because they get scaled down to your level, which takes a massive shit on their vigor
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>>483567314
you're so weird, anon. i hope you're okay.
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>>483559315
>defeat radahn and boss fight ends
>he's dying on the ground
>begs you to take care of his horse
>gives you a whistle that lets you summon leonard as your horse
>uses the last of his strength to whomp miquella and dies
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>>483567787
Whatever help you cope, anon.
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I beat the game
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>>483571623
literally none of those is going to compare to something taking aggro off of you
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>>483572473
actually they will do tons of damage so that you don't even NEED to summon.
Plenty of bad players have beaten the game with that OP equipment



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