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should've been ahriman or something instead of this literally who.

Are there any new leaks?

>>506675241
Can't beat up anyone too important. Forgettable chaos sorcerers and minor ork waaghbosses is the best you can hope for.

Anyone play Astartes mod yet ITT? Not very hopeful that Saber are going to fix this game anytime soon.

>>506677713
Yes, its a good mod. Buffs enemy spawns to make it feel like a horde shooter while also buffing weapons across the board turning them into not pea shooters.

>>506679064
Looks like I'm never joining public lobbies again.

>>506677576
It's certainly a strange choice to make the chainsword and combat knife have the highest damage stats out of the lot. Similarly making the melta and plasma the AoE weapons that deal mediocre single-target damage when they're usually terminator-killers otherwise, and the flamer is right there in the campaign.

>>506679376
It's fucking retarded that neither have any meaningful cleave, they could have just made chainswords good against Minoris and the powersword for Majoris on up, you know...like the board game.

Brothers, what's the up side of using a Balance weapons?

I'm currently using the Thunder Hammer on Assault and have been pretty good with the Blocking version but it becomes tricky when going up against a Lictor because of it's erratic movements. I was thinking of using a Balance version on a run but not sure what's the benefits of it when Fencing can just parry everything better (imo).

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"NIDDERS could be here" he thought. "I've never been in this sub sector before. There could be NIDDERS anywhere." The cool wind felt non existant against his bare ceramite breastplate. "I HATE NIDDERS" he thought. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 1: original soundtrack: track #13 - Force Commander Theme reverberated his entire apocalypse class battleship, making it pulsate even as his monthly ration of amasec circulated through his colossal genetically reinforced veins and washed away his (merited) hatred of xenos after a warp jump. "With an apocalypse class battleship, you can go anywhere you want." he said to himself, booming ear piercingly out his helmet's vox caster.

>>506676002
Nothing new yet Brother.

Is the horde mode going to be like exterminatus mode in SM1, Brothers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFv6dVl4YL4

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>>506674759
I put together what was posted about the leaks from the previous threads.

>Season 3: Raven Guard
Salamanders Sniper Champion skin
Heretic bolter, ABR, HBR and Thunderhammer skins
Beakie with Raven Guard symbol
Raven Guard Las Fusil and Bolt sniper rifle skin
Pristine Mk8
>Season 4: Salamanders
placeholder data for Multimelta, Melta Rifle
placeholder data for Pyreblaster
Battle Barge expansion (?)
Horde mode (?)
>Season 5: Space Wolves
Space Wolves Tactical Champion skin
placeholder data for power axe
placeholder data for lightning claws
two block models of unfinished wolf helmets
Deathwatch skin
Horde mode
>Season 6: Chaos Pack
placeholder names of all traitor legions
Pauldron symbols
placeholder for HH liveries including pre-Primarch legion names
placeholder helmet models
>Season 7: Imperial Fists
names of a ton of successor Chapters listed
names of a ton of Citadel Paints listed
>Season 8: White Scars
nothing
>Season 9: Blood Angels
nothing

Pic related is the actual datamined info and two vids:
Salamander Champion Pack (Sniper) render:
https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1734094630746959.webm
Actual in game footage of said Champion that somebody accidentally bugged onto his dude:
https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1734277240820135.webm

when using block weapons are you just suppose to not attack so you can farm 3 stacks for adrenaline surge?

>>506686516
So we will have everything by September? Fucking jesus christ dude they are taking way too long.

>>506680347
None.

Is there a mod that lets me have more mastery points for my weapons? I'm tired of being forced to pick dogshit like "increased damage for 5 seconds after killing 10 enemies in quick succession."

>>506687375
only good use for block weapons imo:
vanguard with melta
you block when something is about to hit you, you dont force the 3 stack, its just nice when it happens. you generally get it when fighting 5+ majoris wich is also when its actually valuable.
advantage of block weapons on melta vanguard: no gunstrikes, they are terrible, unsafe and interrupt melta-ing majoris packs
less ranged damage taken from block weapon is also very valuable when you are kneedeep in majoris (you get a less ranged damage taken buff as well, this is lesser known)
big melee damage is generally nice, you can just clobber down smaller packs of majoris with your chainsword/dagger. again, its dumb to force 3 blocks against smaller groups or single majoris. just block when you would normally parry and keep attacking them. this uses the 20% damage buff right away but damage with block weapons and some melee perks is already so high that they die in a few lights/heavys depending on weapon.
the 3 stack adrenaline really shines against melee bosses. carnifex and helbrute chainattack you, wich will give you your 3 stacks. if they dont do some aoe charge bullshit after you can dps for beeg number.
also vanguard has increased parry window, makes it a lot easier to perfect block.
also regains a lot of health, wich you are more likely to loose because you are using a block weapon. the melta also is cHP insurance since it reloads every 30s when you drop to lowlife, so you can regain that HP instantly with 1 melta shot.

block is dogshit on assault, don´t let anyone fool you. its obviously also absolute ass on bulwark since he just wants to reliably parry.

the answer for the crayon eater melee variant actually is to pick the crayon eater career with the crayon eater primary.

>>506687375
2 is good enough. 3 if it's like a 1vs1 vs ravener or terminator

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>>506683958
Ideally, it will give us a chance to earn additional cosmetics, and it's going to have an 'infinite' number of waves with scaling difficulty, leaderboards (this one is far fetched but would be a cherry on top).
And give us some prestige progression ffs, it would go a long way much like the horde mode.

>>506683958
Round based mode with additional modifiers to boot. Allow for a three-way faction battle - spawn units from CSM and nidders so that they fight among each other but mainly target the player squad. Maybe let us play as chaos marines eliminating guardsmen and nids alike. Something like that

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>>506686516
I still don't know what devs at Saber were smoking to make a Salamander SNIPER of all classes.
This must be some inside joke I fail to grasp.

>>506691617
they looked at it purely from a /fa/shion prespective.
having the cape be scales just works.

>>506689464
What is Decimus’ favorite crayon to eat.

>>506691617
Salamander's Mantle can be the the Chameleoline Cape. That’s likely the only reason.

fall of atreus is the easiest op to do solo for me because it has like 12 stim spawns, add a guardian relic to the equation and it's doable solo on lethal. just hide behind the train and you're set.

just dled the 4k pack

>>506689464
i really like jetpacks which is why i play assault. and i read it works on ground pound because its considered a melee attack

>>506692338
red but blue is good also

>>506693286
it does work on ground pound, but you have to activate it with ground pound so the duration does not run out while in the air.
getting off 3 perfect blocks and then ground pounding fully charged is doable, but anyone claiming they pull it off in a escalated situation on lethal is dreaming.
imo assault using block weapon is making a shit class even shittier. you WILL fumble at least one block and on assault you can´t reliably gain cHP back, because assault sucks massive dick. makes assault into even more of a stim-eater and i rather eat crayons.
you obviously also dont get nearly as many gunstrikes and the 50% increased gunstrike damage is one of the very few redeeming qualities of assault.

>>506693116
welp guess it broke my game. it used to take 5 tries to start the game, but now i cant even get it to run at all

>>506690109
It's gonna feel and play like shit if they don't remove all their fun limiters like our pathetically low ammo capacities, over-heating on guns that are actually worth using, pathetic melee weapons, and requiring headshots to do any damage without running out of ammo instantly.

>>506694224
they'll just tell you to pick a lower difficulty.

>>506691617
They picked Salamanders because all they need to do is a reskin of the Alpha Legion Sniper who also has a scale cloak.

>>506694537
Lowering the difficulty won't do much to fix those issues, even my Relic HB needs like 7 body shots to kill a gaunt on Average.

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i actually liked Gadriel and Brother Ronnie Coleman, it's sad that this is probably the last we'll see of them.
i feel like the campaign could've used exactly 2 more missions to feel complete, one to flesh out Gadriel and one for Chairon. it could'e been something simple like just a mission that introduces Valerius early on and has him do something cool so we give 2 fucks when he dies

>>506695254
going with a blue eyed asian was a bold choice

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>>506695323
i didn't think of him as asian, he's whatever ethnicity mads mikkelsen is.

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>>506694224
Chances are you'd have an ammo crate that resets after every wave but has a limit as to how much you can pull from it like with the harder difficulties for Operations, since I don't see them actually making massive fuck off damage/ammo economy improvements for the Bolters, considering they see 1 extra magazine for the ABR as an improvement

i'll be honest i don't even know what i want out of this game anymore lol.
i'd like alot more variety but that's not happening so i can cope with Astartes mode i suppose.
being so slow with actual updates (not patches/cosmetics) is killing this game, fast.

>>506696452
It's okay, the devs don't know either, they made a horde shooter that actively tries it best to prevent you from clearing hordes.

>>506695506
His VA is literally an Asian and looks exactly like Gadriel

>>506696723
Damn had to look it up. did not know asians could sound like that lmao.

>>506696894
Chairon's VA also somewhat looks like him.

>>506696452
The game is dead, let the general die

The updates incoming are just piecemeal cosmetics

They shouldn't have revealed that they were developing SM2 and should have added 1 more year of development to fix out all of its kinks

Then drop a couple of massive DLCs during the first two months to retain a 100k playerbase minimum

>>506696592
none of my issues are with the gameplay loop actually, i quite like it. i suppose minoris are annoying and it's stupid how much more of a threat they are than majoris, but i got used to it.
my issue is with the content or lack thereof.
in an ideal world, this game would've had 10 more months in the oven, released with 1 more entire faction (necron or orks), horde mode, and a campaign that's 2-3 missions longer, and the tyranids would've had more varried majoris instead of Tyranid warrior + weapon.

>>506697387
Quit doomfagging and reddit spacing.

>>506697517
Small Russian team, please understand.

is there any use to the green weapon boxes if i have everything leveled up? can i trade them for gold?

>>506699126
Save them for the next weapon that wont release for another 6 months

>>506699126
No. They’re completely useless now. I guess you could save them for any future weapons.

>>506699126
>gray weapon
Play Average once
>green weapon
Play Substantial a few times, for a handful of weapons you can skip right to Ruthless right away
>purple weapon
Grind Ruthless all the way

>>506680347
The timing on the balanced parry is meant to be more prediction based than reaction based, though with how saber decided to make fencing parry the best of both worlds this isnt a particular strength on balanced. Balances currently has a better stagger AoE that has a 3.5? 4.5? Meter radius as opposed to fencings 2 meter radius. In that sense, balanced can give you a better control over a horde if youre able to pull off parries. The stats on balanced weapons are also usually superior to fencing weapons in terms of damage and speed, but this isnt true for all weapons mind you. Current patch also gave balanced weapons higher base damage so theres that too. If parry is all you do than fencing is still the best option.

>>506687375
No, you just attack whenever you have a chance to. 3 stacks is only when you know you have a high chance of getting it (warrior whip combo or ravener combo for example), but many of its benefits are not directly tied to it being 3 stacks. The damage buff is based on stacks yes but each stack is a 30% damage buff that lasts 2.4s after youve began an attack, and is therefore very easy to maintain. Similarly, the ranged attack defence buff is immediate gaining 1 stack, and its a massive 60% defence against ranged attack.

>>506688187
Not yet, but saber did tease that a weapon and class perk system rework. Im also tired of being shoehorned into using dog shit perks.

>>506695506
Gadriel is some sort of fingolian but yeah arthur lee has a great voice

i'm not up to date on seasons and roadmaps and whatever other scheduel autism.
when can we expect a big update like another mission or horde mode?
January?

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>>506705574
At some point in 2025. I'm expecting early quarter 2 or very late quarter 1, but I have no idea how quickly they intend to actually push out updates

>>506706103
Those Ultrasmurfs should have showed up in the campaign instead of the Smurfs just soloing all the problems in the sector

Instead the initial SP batch should have been Imperial Fists

Also S2 and 3 should have come 1 month after release with S4 debuting the Blood Angels and Space Wolves along with all of their successors

>>506706103
>Horde mode as the last fucking thing on the chart
they killed this fucking game.

how do faggot vanguards stay alive when my assault bussy i getting bred be heretics and xenos?

>>506709063
because you like it

>>506709063
Vanguard has actual mobility and has a ton of perks that aids in survival such as ranged damage reduction and healing on execution. Assault only has gunstrike armour and its often not even the best in slot depending on map/faction/weapon.

>>506709063
Vanguard's final perk lets them heal 10% for every Majoris kill.

Assault has no heal. Even Heavies and Snipers can regenerate armour and health by just shooting.

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SMG sniper is extremely fun.
go invisible, charge a melee that has like 20 damage modifiers, you're still invisible for 2 seconds, enough to empty an entire SMG clip into their skull, whatever you hit with it is now exectuable, execute it, by the time the execution is finished your camo has recharged and you go invisible again, rinse and repeat.

why do people join queue then go afk

>>506716925
unless i did my math wrong you should be able to outright kill a nid warrios with the öower damage knives
12dmg x10(full charge, 5secs) x1.15(3x 5% from weapon perks) x2.25(mele damage from cloak perk)
= 310

>>506717538
Too many loading screens, by the time the game actually loaded my ADHD kicked in and I'm already doing something else

>>506717538
Because people are retarded and walk away without backing out of the queue

>>506717936
idk about the maths i just know what works for me.
also i don't always full charge it because fuckers move around alot, it's usually 2 second charge + half a clip in their head, more or less. then their executable.

>trying to revive someone
>press E
>it doesn't register
>press it again
>it doesn't register
>mash it
>it registers but only loads slightly because i'm supposed to hold it
>press it again but hold it this time
>it doesn't register
>die
amazing game

>>506730435
also the worst part about this for me is that i look like a shitter fidgeting with the controls to the other 2 chucklefucks waiting on me to res them

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>>506714738
kek, I spent 72% time playing vidya this year in two months grinding sm2

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>>506714738
>>506733517
Brothers.

i don't understand fencing.
like i get that it makes parrying easier, but if i'm already good at parrying and learned all the parry windows, which are not that hard to begin with just follow the animations, doesn't that mean i should just use balanced since it's functionally the same thing + better damage?

>>506736680
Fencing used to give you extra frames and converted them all to parry frames, then it converted all frames into parry frames, then it converted all block frames into parry frames and frontloaded the parry duration, now it just frontloads the parry frames and can only parry enemies on screen rather than any attack that occurs. This was originally very valuable because you could parry any attack on reaction and chain parry with no delay assuming you succeeded the parry (or just infinite parry before the first set of nerfs added back in the vulnerability frames for missing your parry window) but now there's no real point to fencing weapons and you should just use balanced (or block if you really want) for pretty much anything other than the knife (Almost all knife combos can be interrupted mid-attack so reactive parry is still solid).

TL;DR Fencing had a purpose, it no longer does, so don't bother with it.

>>506737176
i see. it's interesting seeing it go from the mist broken weapon to the most useless one

>>506702897
The only time you should bother with balance is with a Vanguard wielding the combat knife and the perk that buffs your perfect parry window by 50%. Its not quite as good as a fencing weapon but its not that far off, and the balanced relic knife attacks way faster than the fencing one (which not only increases your dps but lets you slip more attacks between parries).

>>506739782
I like balanced more than fencing on sniper. I like going invisible and charging the hit all the way, it does x2 out of camo so the higher the base damage the better for it. Also like the other anon said, parrying in this game ain't so hard that you need large windows for it. The animations are good and telegraphed

>>506693116
Hmm, I guess I'll have to give it a shot. See if it's worth the disk space.

>>506706103
>only one new mission in season 3

>>506706103
Wonder what the prestige is going to look like. Leveling through some tiers for sure, but in most games you get some rewards that incentivize people to to do it.

>>506706103
>early quarter 2 or very late quarter 1
I'm guessing the latter, since we're 4 months into the game's life and we're nearing towards the end of S2. Personally, I'd like them to switch the release of horde mode with PvP stuff from S3, since it would be a bigger draw then an afterthought PvP (even with extra maps). Or just swap the free updates from S3 with S2 altogether. There's need for a more random PvE mode.

>>506703491
They'll cut everyone's ammo pools in half and remove the penetration perks from bolters, calling it now.

>>506717936
Nobody actually knows how melee damage works yet, we all just know it's shit.

>>506752518
Didn't the CEO suck himself off about not following trends?

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>Join game
>Lethal
>only one teammate
>he's on a fucking snoystation
>With moonrune name

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>>506752518
quick search shows the ranks were datamined last month. Everyone but Assault gets something particularly nice.

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>>506762270
>restore jump pack charge for reviving teammate

>>506762270
Based Saber, continuing to make the Assault class the containment zone for shitters.

>>506762270
honestly just give the jetpack to a better class at this point.

>>506762270
Thanks, stupid of not to look for it on the net. Anyways, not bad rewards overall. At least getting those prestiges on each will keep me occupied. I don't much care about the assaul. Ever since I hit max level on him he's been completely sidelined.

>>506762270
i like how assault and vanguard are side by side just to rub it in.
literally virgin vs chad of melee class.

>>506762270
Why do they hate assault I wonder. Surely this is on purpose.

>>506764346
>>506764910
What is really the point of Assault in the eyes of the devs? Other then being a containment class.

>>506765202
All assault needs is health back on jump pack slams. Instant fix.

>>506762270
Tactical too OP as usual
Assault is kek
some of Sniper and Heavy's perks are useless, also no extra ammo for Sniper or more headshot damage
Also Heavy does not have more Iron Halo duration and durability

>>506765603
This will just force Assaults to just speedrun to find mobs and get killed faster that way since sticking around with their team will get these mobs shot to bits by the time they ground pound.

What they need is a perk similar to the Vanguard where instead of healing per execute, every gunstrike heals them, at least with that they're forced to cooperate and stick together.

>>506766116
Nah. My idea is better.

>>506764910
Assault and Bulwark are the designated melee classes. But unlike Bulwark, Assault doesn't have any option for health restoration. Nor does it have a big ass shield. Armour regen on gunstrike is handy but situational. Seeing as melee is the worst designed part of the game, assault suffers the most.
The best perk for Assault on that prestige list is no knockback on gunstrike, because then at least it should cacel out health damage taken during a good amount of the time.

>>506767731
I don't think that's how it works.
You'll still take damage just not get stunned.

The disc twirling takes too much HP

You get hit once then some shitter shoots at you and now you're dead

>>506767935
right but gunstriking when you've contested health restores some or all of that health. So if you get hit during gunstrike but before you actually shoot, you'll get the health back, as well as your armour pip. There's still about a half second where you're fucked if your hit, but its at least something.

>>506767731
Assault is supposed to simply not get hit. That's its design, using its mobility to avoid the damage to rather than mitigating it, and that's why it has dodge perks that increase the dodge window and give ability charge on perfect dodges.
It's a neat idea, but they failed to give assault the ability to zip around by making it rely on external circumstances to get back charges on its long ass ability cooldown.
Give it a third charge, halve the cooldown, make the dodge perks baseline and replace them with either parry perks or damage perks, then reduce the size and/or damage of the ground slam but give it a nice modifier if it only hits one target so it still wrecks extremis and the like.

>>506769785
Its impossible to fully mitigate damage. That's not the type of game. And definitely not with dodge only style.
Also it's just not aesthetic. Vanguard's the zippy mobile looking type.

>>506762270
man these read like sombody just gave up half way through and went "what have we not done yet" and gave out almost exclusively shit bonuses

tact get loads of ways to revover auspex, ammo better stims

assault gets better parries, more health, and generaly useful, though not very impactful stuff

vanguard gets loads of stuff the synergizes with his kit and what he does

bulwark gets useful stuff

sniper gets camo invul? ok....pistol damage? neat....

and heavy gets FUCKING MELEE BULLSHIT HE WOULD BASICLY NEVER USE

All classes should get heal

>Tactical
Every kill grants a small heal
Killing a bunch of enemies grants a ton of HP back
Charged shots and GL shots give back moderate HP per hit
>Assault
Gunstrike heal
Execute heal
Groundpound heal
Every light attack grants a small heal
>Vanguard
Gunstrike heal
Grappling Hook into an enemy grants healing
>Bulwark
Gunstrike heal
Execute heal
can place two banners, cooldown remains the same
>Sniper
Every headshot heals some HP back
Cloaking heals HP per second and restores all armour
Cloaked shot/melee grants some HP back
>Heavy
Every kill grants a small heal and armour back
Iron Halo restores some HP per second and restores all armour

>>506679064
Is there any MP component? Can other people with mod play with me or is this just a offline circle jerk?

>>506774798
You can only enable mods in private lobbies presently but outside of that you and your friends can all play modded yes.

>>506774798
>>506775194
I just installed Astartes mod and I will not be coming back to the base game.

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>>506772083
shitter detected opinion rejected. game is easy enough already. l2p scrub

>>506782605
Why is this brother so caked up

>>506762270
Can assault not be cursed? I just want to jetpack around and smash things with the thunder hammer. They will do anything but give him more jump pack charges.

>>506782605
Ruthless is trivial, Lethal is obnoxious
What would being able to heal from gunstrikes do that isn't already done by bringing a competent bulwark?

>>506789091
There are only a handful of competent Bulwarks

Gunstrike heals are absolute

>>506789091
Are you that dense on purpose? Or you're that bad at the game?
You get a gunstrike every 5s and everyone gets them not just bulwark.
Lethal is obnoxious only if you didn't fully grasp basic game mechanics, don't know enemy attack patterns and have shit awareness. Go play darktide Aurics or 20+ Havocs for a bit and then try to say Lethal isn't piss easy in comparison

Is the Heavy Bolt Rifle supposed to be pure garbage?

>>506795367
Like with all bolters (minus the infinite ammo GL build that tries as hard as possible to act like the bolter it's attached to doesn't exist) it only becomes "tolerable" when you get it to the last tier. Of course, it's only ""tolerable"" when you get the accuracy version and build the class to get as many pierce bonuses as possible and exclusively use it to mag dump into Gaunts/Tzaangors and let everyone else deal with Warriors/Thousand Sons

>>506772083
This is retarded. Add an apothecary class.

Why are there no techmarines in-game or even mentioned? All the stuff seems to be run by admech which is weird for astartes. Is this some kind of GW ops for removing techmarines from 40k?

>>506686516
>Season 8
>White Scars
Why not Iron Hands? Imagine being Ferrus Manus seeing biker boys released before IHs.

>>506797308
in the campaign your valkyrie pilot is a tech marine, titus has a back and forth with him about whether he'll have it running after field repairs, and he fucks it up and needs mechanicus assistance so he arrives late

>>506797308
There's a reference in one of the Operations that you don't have one and that they have to guide you through the process. Realistically they were told to get fucked and had to follow the squad boxes or something retarded considering GW exists

>>506797940
I think he’d probably have better things to be upset about than a video game for manchildren releasing cosmetics for the Kahn’s sons before his own.

>>506797940
Iron Hands have like 3 or 4 succesors with known heraldries. they don't have enough for a full on cosmetic pack. nobody likes or plays them

>>506800764
They have 6 fully confirmed successors, 1 suspected successor, and then the Steel Confessors who are absolutely Iron Hands but the AdMech won't admit it.
They have enough for a DLC but you're right that people don't care enough about them to warrant it. It's pretty sad that the Sons of Medusa are more well known.

>>506800764
White Scars have been shafted as much as IH going from HH to 41st millenium. Might be a matter of recognition to some degree, true, but it's apples over oranges in this case
>>506801639
Yeah, they have enough, maybe even to put them side by side with another Chapter.

>>506802291
Looking at it realistically WS were never really relevant in the first place. They were a fringe legion doing their own thing. It's rather a case of Khan mattering way more than his boys.

White Scars are useless, Games Workshop wants nothing to do with them and would love to retcon them as Chinks or Japs so they can market them properly. No one wants or likes Space Mongols. They're the most useless Chapter in the Heresy and after, only the Iron Hands have it worse.

>>506803672
I find it funny that Jaghatai was Vulkan before Vulkan was cool; a guy wholly concerned with the plight of the common man, to the extent that he largely abandoned the thickest fighting at the palace during the Heresy to focus on protecting the rest of the world from the traitors despite being explicitly told that he would more likely than not die.

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>>506674759
>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System,CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES
>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE.
>All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.
>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.
>All Astartes are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.

Good day/evening, Brothers! I am happy to announce that over the course of the last couple of days I have been working to bring you this update of the Dude Wall. Both image and website versions are now fully updated.

- Numerous new Dudes coming from latest submissions have been added to both Image and Website versions of the Wall;
- (Website version): Frames have been added to various Chapters, Successors, Unknown Foundings and Chaos Khorner;
- Missing name banners for some submissions will be added within 1-2 days.

The process of adding frames is slightly more taxing than I initially assumed. This is the reason that they appear to be added at random rather than in an organized fashion. But rest assured I will complete it.

There is also the matter of Phantom Links’ separate Wall. While it is an interesting concept I’d rather keep all Dudes together on the Wall. I believe it is the best place to display all our Dudes. Perhaps we can find an alternative solution to this conundrum – making a separate section just for Phantom Links, much like for example the Loyalists or Unknown Foundings.
I hope this will be a good way of handling the matter and that it won’t disappoint Brothers who came forward with the initiative.

Thank you for all submissions and as always, keep them coming, Brothers!

=IMPORTANT=
>**High quality version of the Dude Wall is already available on the website**
>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://rentry.org/dudewallsm2g **

Glory to the Imperium!

//// END TRANSMISSION ////

accidentally picked the hardest class to level and play (assault)
not sure how i will get yellow gear now

>>506808483
Assault scales well in Ruthless (except in Reliquary), just not in Lethal.

>>506808483
keep faking it until you get to level 18. Then relax. Then start having fun at level 23. Then stop having fun at level 25 when you start doing lethal.

>>506808483
i´d honestly recommend switching. assault fucking sucks. brings nothing to the table that other classes can´t do. even bulwark has more reliable melee damage, and he has a partyheal and refuses to die.

some times when i click block my marine doesnt block, like he just gets stuck or something. and gun strike are a trap because he pulls out his gun in slow motion and all the little nids eat your health

>>506812758
gun strikes are not really a trap, just need spacing. they only suck balls with melta, since you actually just want to shoot the melta in melee

>>506806460
Thank you Brother! Those frames are a nice addition. Your work's appreciated!

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>>506806460
Submitting my Marines Errant veteran sergeant.

>>506820726
Received.

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I wonder, why we didn't see any of the Grey Knights in the campaign? We got Deathwatch because xenos (and Titus being in its ranks ofc). But shit got real pretty fast once T'sons showed up on the block. I know GKs are supposed to be ultra secretive but an incursion like that would at least justify sending a squad down to Demerium to deal with the threat.

>>506825160
The Imperium moves at the speed of bureaucracy for one, everything was done by the time any kind of news even reached the Sol system if it ever even did.
Further, the Grey Knights only care about daemons. This was an assault by the Thousand Sons with a single digit number of daemons, so the Grey Knights likely wouldn't give a shit until or unless it spiraled out of control and Magnus showed up.

>>506825160
It took like 3 days from the TS showing up to the incursion's end. Calgar managed to receive a message and get there to help quickly, which I assume he only managed because he was nearby. For grey knights to get there they'd have to be in the general vicinity AND for someone in position to send them some info, considering the nid presence.
And even then, one greater daemon and some side dishes isn't THAT major of a daemon incursion. It's more ordo hereticus than malleus.

i played average by myself and the game tried to kill me. it spawned at least 20 warriors and then immediately spawned a pair of zorthropes right after

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>>506825160
>why we didn't see any of the Grey Knights in the campaign
Scratch that. Anons >>506826491 >>506826578 laid it out pretty well, but how the hell were ultrasmurfs designate to deal with the daemon in Secret Level Episode? They had to have known or have suspicion bordering on certainty that it was chaos shenanigans of high magnitude (see pic related). I'm probably drawing at straws but the events shown in EP5 would warrant involving GKs. Or maybe it would more of a ordo hereticus thing just as well, as Anon mentioned >>506826578. Thanks for reading my blog, but I just like taking things like that apart and analyzing them.

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>>506806460
>Perhaps we can find an alternative solution to this conundrum – making a separate section just for Phantom Links
One of the anons that talked about it last time. I think it'll be for the best. Plus it could take away from maintaining the Dude Wall so splitting the project like that... I wouldn't want to have it on my conscience Brother. I speak for myself, but thanks for even considering the idea. Emperor's blessing and guidance be upon you!

>>506686516
>No shock grenade nerf?
>No more than one chaos legion per class?
Damn I guess no one cares about pvp...

Sad, I'm getting really bored of Operations
You feel like a fragile parry-spamming bitch at higher difficulties

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Leandros in spacemarine 5
He's still suspicious

>>506834295
is he ok?

>>506833398
Again, Grey Knights don't get out of bed for anything less than a full on daemonic incursion. Secret Level was just a clusterfuck of cultists and a possessed sorcerer in the middle of a literal shitstorm.
The last few campaigns the Grey knights embarked on involved them going after a specific daemon prince, and whatever else they happened to fight and kill along the way was of no consequence to them. Hell, the last time the Grey Knights fought tyranids, they "took heavy losses" from a handful of warriors that were ultimately more concerned by the daemons than the space marines and the Grey Knights were ultimately inadvertently bailed out by a daemon prince who took out the nids because they were in the way. They're hyper specialized and have little experience fighting anything else, nor do they have much desire to gain said experience.

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>>506834709

>>506837073
my favorite part of this one was the scene where titus crushed the power source

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>>506835003
Nothing the apothecary can't fix

i got to level 25 on assault, but the jetpack dodge thing doesnt seem very good. its not consistent for me and dodging doesnt kill enemies and you dodge so far away it puts you of of position to retaliate so i dont get the point. skill issue? i'd rather just save my jetpack for ground pound

>>506842336
I have assault at 24 and can count on one hand the amount of times I've used jet dodge (half of those times were accidental). It's just not worth the activation when cooldown is that long.

>>506843854
the 25 skill refunds the cost of jetpack dodge, so the idea is you are suppose to be able to use it when ever you want to get a free 25% damage boost

>>506847530
Despite assaults passive giving him a better window it doesn't feel like it so half the time you'll waste your dodge and lose a charge

got my first relic bros. power fist

assault is fun bad
bulwark is boring bad

>>506860314
i dont play vanguard or bulwark because they seem very nuhammer. world look out of place in dawn of war

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>>506834709
>>506837073
I believe Leandros requires an armor stretcher.

Leandros sent Titus in an absolute suicide mission

He's being petty at this point

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Anon who in the last thread asked about model painting, here. I decided to get myself a GK Terminator Squad. I figured I want to start with something I can wrap my head around.
I gotta say, I'm really excited since this will a first for me. I want to put them together and systematically get to painting each one without rushing. A question, should I go with citadel paints or are some viable paint alternatives? I don't want to cheap out on that, but I'm curious if feasible to achieve similar end result not going for GW mandated ones.

>>506872407
Last I checked citadel had some of the best metallic paints on the market, so since you're painting GK that would be a good option. For any regular flat colour I'd go with a different brand (my choice is vallejo, but I've not really tested around much). Shades and specialist paints I'd also generally get from GW.

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>>506806460
Here's a Bulwark Phantom Link to join his chapter brethren.

>>506842336
its dogshit. its generally funky, but what kills it for me is: if your teammates do their job it gets worse.
about to be hit by a majoris, press Q for perfect dodge, teammate kills/staggers the majoris,
Q wasted and on 45s cooldown.

we keep telling you that assault is irredeemable garbage

>>506860804
its odd to me that dawn of war is held in such high regard. its a good game, but it has alpha legion using world eaters that summon tzeentch horrors and shit. its so god damn off canon

>>506881898
>Alpha Legion
>the main Chaos Lord is literally an idiot who doesn't see and realize that his Sorcerer was scheming behind his back
>heavy handed on using a daemon artifact when 95% of AL agents don't have Chaos taint hence why they can go undercover and even pose as Loyalist Spess Mehreens up to a point
At least they course corrected in the expansions about the Word Bearers and Black Legion.

>>506872407
Vallejo duraluminium is a personal favourite for grey metallics. But I've used citadel and army painter metallics too and so long as you're careful, you should be able to get a nice finish.

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>>506872681
>>506886156
Thanks a lot! I'll keep that in mind.

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>>506872407
I on the other hand like to paint in blood of xenos. Nothing like fresh blood on the canvas that is my armor.
But seriously, good for you Anon. You'll see that it's a great hobby. Welcome to the painiting fold.

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I am fortifying this thread.

they should release dlc VAs for various chapters. i want to larp as a space wolf but tact is so calm

>>506902390
Valius is too goody goody and competent to ever be one of Leman’s retarded sons.

>>506686516
So S6 is essentially (excluding helmets) a glorified livery pack that you'd get from playing PvP under normal circumstances?

>>506697387
This probably would have made GOTY if they had just said this is early access until 2025, or whenever they can actually make this game feature complete.

>>506706965
Would you even want a horde mode given the state of combat in this game?

>>506691617
Champion skins are named characters thoughever.
>smurfs
cato sicarius
>dangels
lazarus

IDK who the salmander sniper is but its probably some nigga from the fluff

>>506771526
I hate how much they emphasize melee combat in this game, it's easily the worst part about this game and they go out of their way to force you to engage in it.

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>>506806460
Here is my Dark Angels Ravenwing vanguard.

>>506907446
>Anon thinks Cato is a fire support specialist from the 4th company's honor guard

>>506911403
Alright its not cato but the point still stands. The skins are named characters from the lore.

>>506907446
It isn't. Presently there's only one Salamander confirmed to have had the rubicon surgery, and it's not a phobos guy.

>>506907446
Champion Straban is probably based on Ventris, no Sicarius.

>>506913506
>only one salamander confirmed to have undergone the rubicon
Why does this matter? The skins are just cosmetics that have no bearing on the story or do you somehow think the master of the fourth company is in the game? Would it make more sense for heavy to get it absolutely but heavy already has a champ skin and salamanders are up next. Plus its not like the salamanders don't have scouts.

finally got his shit to run. had to lock my computer to 8 cores

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>>506806460
Here's update of my Grey Knight #2, Brother.

>>506877413
>>506907537
>>506919014
Received.

>>506686516
They better be doing some reshuffling in terms of horde mode, i.e. releasing it sooner as some mid-season update.

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>>506898336
Excellent, Brother!

they seriously need to do something about the ammo on lethal.
turning all your weapons into pea shooters is one thing, turning them into pea shooters and then not giving you enough peas is fucking bullshit. either increase damage or ammo spawn rates by like 30%

>>506691617
Its so they can peddle them as blacks.

>have to play as sniper because if I don't then some useless shitter will play the class

>>506916672
Because all stuff is approved by GW and they wanna sell primaris.
Why do you think the cosmetics are in the dumb situation they are in?

>>506936286
Clearly it's for class readability and the fact that we're all loyalists helping the loyalist cause. It totally has nothing to do with GW telling them to get fucked and Saber being pants on head retarded in terms of what you can actually customize, you're just schizophrenic :^)

>>506935639
*picks sniper before you*
*picks bolt carbine instead of a las fusil*
don't be a slowpoke next time ;)

>>506882367
metal baawkses not hydra dominatus
simple as

>>506860314
i like bulwark.
going through a fuck huge horde of like 8 majoris and an 2 zoanthropes and somehow not dying once is fun.
it's the easiest class to actually do solo mission as.

>>506929448
Buffs to damage and increased ammo is the best course they could take atm. It's not fun when I run around as if chasing tail looking for a lost ammo cache.
I don't get that mentality the devs have, which is "us vs players". I'm not competing against you numb nuts, I'm trying to enjoy your game.

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>>506936657
>It totally has nothing to do with GW telling them to get fucked
Riight, it sure doesn't, kek.
But really, at this point I'm willing to believe both parties are to blame equally with GW micromanaging as they do. And they're known for making retarded decisions while the devs seem to have a very stringent approach to adding features, cosmetics and at times it appears they don't play their own game (see blocking/fencing debacle).

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Was this version of battle pass always up on the BP store page?

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you hate to see it

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>>506941000
It's clearly us who are wrong and the most high (GW) sends it's angels (Saber) to enlighten the masses (us) as to their faults. In reality it's just modern GW is dogshit and the fact that they give the license out to AA development teams leads to bad games more often than not

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its getting worse

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>>506941000
obligatory

>>506943289
>2 melee classes on lethul
it's over
if it's Reliquary then it never even begun

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>>506943713
Perfect

>>506942173
>calendar subject to change
change it by releasing horde mode earlier you retarded fucking slavs. it should've been in base game.

How much content is there for a solo player, you know, the high-seas kind?

>>506947626
a single playthrough of the campaign

>>506947721
How long is the campaign?

>>506947626
Besides the campaign, you have 6-8 "Operations", that are built for 3 player coop that you'd only interact with more than once to grind weapon/class levels

>>506948052
why it's as long as my peenus weenus, of course :)

>>506948163
So a huge amount of content. Thanks Anon!

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>>506947626
campaign is short but decent.
the multiplayer operations are a decent challenge if you want to solo them but they are built with multiplayer in mind. you're not expected to realistically solo any of them on the harder/hardest difficulties.
also the game is missing a bunch of content that's locked behind a gay battlepass forcing all of us to wait, it's basically early access.
get it anyway, it's not like it'll a big investment for you.

>>506942173
Well, they might as well pour all their resources (all of 2 people + the janitor) and focus on horde mode to release it with S3 or right after it in some kind of in-between update. It's not space magic to see that a mode with waves and additional modfiers will attract more people and bring more retention to the game. Not that it's so abysmally low, but larger group of players would be there to stay.

>two terminators and a hellbrute
Finally some good fucking gameplay.

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>>506942173
>new enemy
Is Leandros finally making an appearance as in-game npc whose head we get to put a bullet in? Neat!

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>>506947626
Get Boltgun instead.
Complete product and properly single player.

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>>506949374
>New enemy
They're gonna put a Termigaunt on a flying disc

>>506949374
>>finally
>he didn't unload the magazine at leandros in the last campaign mission

>>506942173
Horde mode in July. Trust the plan.

>>506950270
>July
i'm gonna fucking kill myself

>>506950270
>>506951538
Season 3 is confirmed for Winter 2025
Season 4 is confirmed for Spring 2025

>>506952854
So March and June.

>>506697387
I'd rather a dozen glacial Space Marine threads to the constant gacha porn posting, fuck off.

Hope those slavs get drafted

>>506929448
They never intended for us to mow down hordes in this game, the fact even the weakest mobs have dodge, parry, and execute mechanics on them, and the laughable ammo capacities make this clear.

I have no idea who this game is for, why give us huge cool guns if they don't want us shooting them too much, and give us melee weapons that have next to 0 cleave.

Did Saber actually think that whittling down giant hordes of enemies one at a time was engaging?

>>506762270
Why are all the perks so shit? Who the fuck says "Ah yes, .3 more damage per shot after hitting 5 melee attacks, for THREE WHOLE SECONDS!?!?!"

>>506955278
They don't play their own game, they're balancing and treating this game like it's a fucking MMO or something.

Why do weapons even have talent trees? This implies there's some kind of build diversity in this game, but there isn't, you pick up as many + damage and ammo capacity perks as you can and that's it.

>>506954479
Yeah. We’ll get Raven Guard, Prestige, and all that in January to March, then Salamanders, Horde Mode, and so on over the course of March to June.

Whos getting the champion skin for rg? Assault?

>>506954980
Try again anon, make it believable this time. Here's a hint, stop using reddit-spacing like a fag.

>>506954775
but my dearest president said he'll end it before he even takes office :D he wouldn't have lied about that! two more weeks until total peace!

>>506956063
Probably

>>506956063
>>506956393
Salamanders get a sniper skin, Smurfs got heavy, and Space Wolves are getting tactical instead of vanguard. All bets are off on their tone deaf bullshit.

>>506956670
what's next, a blood angel sniper?

>>506956670
>Smurf heavy
More retarded to me than sniper salamander.
Ultramarines are supposed to be the most "Standard" looking units as the face of the franchise, giving them such a specialized looking skin is retarded.
They should've gotten tactical.

>>506956067
How about you

Fucking

Kill yourself

You stupid gorilla nigger

>>506956063
Better question is what are they planning after all classes get their respective champion skin? A new set of them? Blood Angels Heavy, perhaps?

I wonder if SM2 can pull out Steam awards win or if the chinks will just win.

>>506959358
It would've had a chance of it released as a full feature product or if they waited.
For most people the magic is already gone and they moved on.
I'd sooner vote for helldivers

>>506960170
At the very least, Helldivers won shit at the game awards despite Arrowhead employees spamming explicit furry porn in their official discord and banning anyone who complained, had another PR guy have to issue a public apology because he spent an entire day going out of his way to be an abrasive dickhead to people, had multiple rugpulls when it came to rewards, continually nerfed everything while telling players their diminishing fun was a skill issue, had the CEP step down to a lesser position due to how angry the playerbase was, and revealed that the developers are absolute shitters who can only just barely manage to clear a level 5 mission with good spawn RNG.
Space Marine 2 might be an unfinished mess, but at least it's not that bad.

am i reading this right for tact perk, one mag for killing a majoris. so tact gets infinite ammo?

>>506961893
Played correctly, yes, tactical gets infinite ammo.

>>506961893
It refills the current magazine on kill (or 20% for everything that doesn't use magazines besides the GL which completely replenishes) every 30 seconds

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>>506956670
>the dudes with flamers who are notorious for sacrificing themselves on the frontlines get the long-range stealth class
>the angry space vikings who are notorious for their melee power as berserkers get the surgical killer ranged class who prefers to stay out of melee
>the tactical, flexible and logistical guys get the ranged firepower specialist
They only got the dark angels right, wtf are they doing, did nobody read the lore?

>>506961893
Congratulations, now you know why GL tactical is broken

>>506961643
Never say never, we don't even fully comprehend the shit state this game is in because it's borderline impossible trying to figure out what are bugs and what is intended design.

>increase ammo drops
>nerf chip damage from minoris hordes
>delete Assault and give everyone else a jetpack instead because he doesn't deserve it
fixed your shit game

>>506960170
>For most people the magic is already gone and they moved on.
Half the people left within first week (going by steam numbers). The famed peak of 225k lasted whopping 2 days. And it's nothing that hasn't happened before SM2. For now it's doing fine in terms of players unless we take something like Helldivers as a metric for a game being dead or alive. In this case majority of titles fail the test.
The key thing is for the devs to get their shit together and actually play the game once or twice when they change something. Plus listen to players who play it (more then people making it apparently). Also, releasing the horde mode earlier, which is a tall order I know, would go long way.

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Remember Istvan III, Brothers...

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>>506968475
I'm making a Rylanor heavy cosplay.
Just gotta grind out the cosmetics like a good goy.

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>>506968475
It was a sacrifice one should be glad to have participated in, for it was a betrayal so sweet that one can't help but feel joy for having witnessed

>>506958391
Yeah, they'll probably circle all the way back to releasing new champion skins for everyone again. Get ready for Alpha Legion Bulwark.

>>506968475
It shall forever be in my memory, Brother. Their names may be forgotten, bones crumble to dust, but their deaths will echo through the millennia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCxtX_czIfI

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>>506949624
>Complete product
>There's dlc included

>>506968475
The embers of Isstvan resulted in Fulgrim being permanently depowered. The next time he runs into Guilliman, he's the one getting his throat slit, and knowing how mind shatteringly angry and violent Guilliman can be when he's proper mad, he'll do it with his teeth or something.

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maintenance until 1969

>>506971820
>They never set the date on their servers
This explains so many things.

>>506972016
>>506971820
nevermind just had to chant the proper incantation, rub blessed oil on my computer tower, and restart my computer

>>506971158
Imagine getting rejected so hard it permanently wounds your pride and makes you weaker.

>>506968089
They thought giving the ABR 1 extra magazine was a meaningful buff, this game is fucked lol. I'd bet money that the server connection issues we had at launch weren't actually fixed and just a consequence of most of the players dropping this game.

>>506971158
>>506975128
Every time someone mentions a traitor primarch I am reminded that they are all hilariously pathetic.

matching making
>afk at armory
>auto kicked
>class taken
>class taken
>afk at barge

>>506975687
Reminder that when Angron fought Sanguinius, the fight ended with him full on ugly crying and begging Sanguinius to stop hurting him.

>>506976068
>matchmaking
>class not taken
>no one is afk
>Both teammates are Chinese

Did they give an ETA on when we’d be getting head customization? I remember them saying it’s coming but haven’t heard anything since

>>506976392
You can customize lenses now

>>506976790
I mean the actual class heads, race/scars/hair all that shit.

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It is happening again.

>>506976927
I doubt it'll happen any time soon if it does happen

>>506976259
Angron is really the only traitor that I have any kind of sympathy for. He didn't have any control over his life after the nails.

>>506977114
Damn. Should have been in the game from day 1

>>506977114
>>506978814
it's never happening.
the devs are extremely adamant about the operations classes being actual characters.
they even want you to know who each of them are like straban and valeius and decimus etc.
it's like asking them to let you customize gadriel or chairon.

>>506977053
I'm trying but those FUCKING FLYING TZANGORS ARE BEING FUCKERS!

anyone up for a game?
i wanna level up so shitty weapons for mastery points because may as well.

matchmaking has too many fucking loading screens

>>506978449
I would argue that Angron is the only truly tragic figure in the entire franchise. Every single other character had some hand in their ultimate fate, but that poor bastard never had a choice.
>Explicitly created to be pacifistic and empathetic
>Lands on a shithole world where the elite force the lower caste into slavery and make them fight to the death for fun
>Refuses to hurt the people he's come to care for
>Gets the nails jammed into his brain
>Still tries to channel his newfound rage into something productive by trying to liberate the planet from the slavers
>Emperor shows up, calls him gay, and teleports him off world the INSTANT the final battle began
>No one with any say in the Imperium, least of all his own father, makes any actual attempt to deal with the nails
>His condition deteriorates, he basically has a combination of episodic dyscontrol syndrome and dementia
>His sons openly hate him because of what he's become
>Thinks he's finally going to be able to die with his real family
>Lorgar turns him into a daemon prince
>The nails are supercharged forever now

It's actually impressive how much more cancerous chaos has become with the flying shitters
I hate how the devs thought it was a good idea to add an even more cancerous enemy on top of already cancerous missions and the fact it basically makes it so you're out 4 out of the 8 available missions because they're cancerous to play.

>>506981714
Post codes brother.

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Grenade spamming retard quit the game because the bulwark wouldnt heal him.

>>506983153
6Q6UW

>>506981525
The fact that you can completely change their factions disproves this, there’s no reason they can’t be changeable lore wise

>>506983360
You will never be Japanese

>>506984312
Coming brother.

>>506984850
He's right in the sense that the Operations classes are hard coded to be the one of the guys that show up during the campaign as the secondary squad you meet before each mission. It should be even more obvious with how absolutely fucking dogshit customization was at launch and the fact that you STILL can't get genuine customization of the CSM in Eternal War that customization was something that was thrown together last second

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Assault exists to feed me kills.

>just found out because of the leaks i have to wait like 9 months for my Blood Angel stuff
sad. hopefully they add a huge ass axe to Assault sometime soon.

when a bulwark plants their flag, it turns half my hp into contested hp. is this a bug? it just drains away, i was full health before

>>506992180
is this bait.
you probably made so many bulwarks rage so hard they killed themselves

>>506992180
That's a bug yes. You should bug report and Saber might get on it in5 months.

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>>506985787
GGs brother, thanks for the help.
i never have to use this piece of shit again

>>506993396
You're welcome brother but by the Lion next time lets not use Fall of Atreus for grinding.

>>506963512
We might still get vanguard raven guard...maybe.

>>506993614
i don't know what's recommended, to me, fall of atreus seems like the easiest because of the abundance of stim spawns and because a 3rd of it is taken care off by the dreadnought

>>506993864
True but the train bit makes things go by really slowly.
I always prefer decapitation for grinding.
Then again I think with enemy waves and extremis spawns being what they are, it's prolly all more or less the same it the exception of Reliquary.

People saying that one melee type is useless while i think they both have their uses (by both i mean block and balanced, fencing is pointless just git gud at parrying with balanced lol)
Nids have alot of parryable moves -> balanced
Chaos are mostly ranged with rarer parries -> block

>>506994538
Wouldn't that mean you should go for block on nis?
More blocks = more adrenaline charges to keep the damage going.
I haven't tried it yet so it's genuinely just theory though.

>>506994765
no, no matter how many charges or damage buff you get parry will always be better, because you get I frames and slowmo to react to any situation, and you get some damage in, and most importantly, you interrupt whatever gay combo they're on. never think of the systems in a 1vs1 situation because it's always 1 vs a horde.

Battle sisters.... you told me Assault was le bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfJpafqKRY

>>506995758
also 25 min mark for the cool section imo

>>506995758
is it not worth it to charge your jump pack? i thought it did more damage. also no i will not watch 40 minutes of execution animations

>>506995758
buy an ad

>>506995758
>watch the hive tyrant fight
>beats with parry -> gun strike and handgun pellets exclusively, hammer barely comes up
just play vanguard for parry autism lol

why did the program the AI bulwark to use his flag when you're executing an enemy?
is this perhaps... linked to an ability that they forgot to implement for him? mayhaps something related to contested health ???

>>506993614
No problem.

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>>506997813
applies to hive tyrants aswell

this pressing Q and not having it immediately activate shit is gonna make me blow my fucking brains out it pisses me off so much

>>507008331
the frustrating part is it wasn't even a thing before patch 5.0

>>506997813
>just play vanguard
haha, no. not playing a nigger. I know, I know. I'm sorry.

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trying to solo lethal fall of atreus.
i mean i did it once with GL tactical but that felt like cheating, i wanna do it with a proper class this time.
so close my last attempt, i made it to the final stretch but choked when the game decided to spam 20 cultists sniping me from every angle

>>507011521
it wasn't cheating in the sense that it's unintended bullshit, but lethal difficulty is filled with unintended bullshit, so really you just evened the playing field.

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Saw this in a comment section and it gave me a hearty kek

>>507011521
Good luck Brother!
The dialed up to 11 difficulty should be offset by higher damage output with more ammo dropping or more mags by default. Not to mention the player should be more resistant to chaff damage.
There's a reason why GL is so effective, because it basically makes you an astartes (outside of 2-3 shotting a majoris, that's a different story).

>>506993396
why are you using marksman version to begin with. the carbine fucks.

>>507011726
GL player copium. the nerf is coming

>>507013203
to get the mastery point. i know the carbine fucks i use it. i was just grinding to get the most ouf of it so i had to use the shitty version

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>>507013275
and Tacitcal gawds will still somehow manage to be the best class. Bitch.

>>507013398
y-... you can just burn an armory data, don't you know?
youre probably grinding ruthless+ anyway
you *should* have millions of those

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>>507013606
I..
I did not know you could do that.
I spent hours grinding shitty weapons...

>>507013726
Brother...

>>507013726
There's a reason why people farm Inferno

Every gene sneed and armoury data are only in a handful of easy locations

You then use these armoury data and easy gene sneed leveling to quickboost trash guns like carbines and bolters

>>507013726
oof

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>>507011521
i did it.

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>>507017302
Well done!

>>507017302
you make your chapter proud!
now do it for every op

>>507017302
based

The thousand Jobbers
The Emperors Jobbers
The Sons of Jobber
Word Jobbers
Death Jobbers
World Jobbers
Jobbing Lords
Iron Jobbers
Beta Legion

>>507021517
T.just lost in PvP to CSM Chads.

>>507023125
Leandros will become the Ultramarines' Master of Sanctity

Leandros deserves to be thrown into the Sea of Souls.

Leandros will get a promotion to Master of Sanctity and then send Titus on a suicide mission to get raped by slanneshites

>>507023838
Literally the plot of Secret level