Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E [Open]>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk >PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is >Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw >Final Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>506495354
The 10/10 FFXVI is the best one.
XVI is bad.
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
Neo Fantasian looks like shit tbqh
>>506934552FPBP>>506933530>ohhh so turn-BASED only applies if it doesn't involve actual Final Fantasy and Yoshi-PSadly true... Some people really need to figure out that disliking Final Fantasy isn't a personalityand (you) need to go back.
I need one
OP seething again.
>>506934560This is a game that took 7 years of development, and in the end we got an empty MMO world with MMO quests, one-dimensional protagonist and a combat system that needs to be fixed with PC mods.7 fucking years.
>>506934985Some people really need to figure out that spamming the same shit again and again like ChatGPT isn't a personality either.But here we are.>>506934919>Neo Fantasian looks like shit tbqhDo you dislike the characters or the world?
Do (You) like Yuna?
>>506935878I like (You), Anon.
>>506933530>>506935869>Do you dislike the characters or the world?I've made it my personality to dislike Final Fantasy so I'm obligated to hate it and post about that hate often.
Why did Gucci betray us Aerithsisters...
>rebirth will be goty and barry will kys himself>it didn't >more like ff7 rejected!>doh oh oh oh oh oh oh!
>>506935321Wake me up when they announce a Wuk Lamat figure.
Playing through XVI and people kept telling me >prologue is peak, it doesn't get better than that">shadow ifrit fightokay fine ifrit is peak, it doesn't get better than that>titan lost fightokay titan lost was cool, but it doesn't get better then thatam i getting meme'd here? also checking up discussion on xvi i cannot seriously believe that people would put shadowwalkers and endbringers over xvi. why the fuck do the mmo trannies love that game so much?
>>506937534just give the Mithra a tranny flag
>>506937820>see the dion scene right afternvm this game is gay as fuck. yoship cult tranny gay game.
>>506937820>am i getting meme'd here?Yes. Those people are just shitposters.The reality is that Final Fantasy XVI is unironically quite excellent. The best thing SE has released in 30 years.
Brianna loses again lmao
>>506938084ehhhh final fantasy x might beat it out just because it's more consistent. xvi plot in the first half went at a blazing fast speed when it could've used a lot more fleshing out. jill is kinda lame and cid died kinda awkwardly. come on really? you make him die from a suckerpunch shot? that's it??? at least galuf went balls to the wall 1v1 against exdeath
>>506937820>prologue is peak, it doesn't get better than that"They were correct.
>>506938648wrong
>>506938856Acquire taste, pleb.
>>506934606Pretty based ngl
>>506938950dunno why you're hating on XVI when XIV the REAL FUCKING BUTTMONKEY OF THE ENTIRE SERIES is right fucking there.also ff7r integrade but i don't think people are ready to have that conversation
>>506938648Beautiful bombastic scenes for some can mask superficial story and lack of substance in writing, and I'll give Yoshi-P that.
>>506939174>b-but what about that other gameNot the topic of conversation.
>>506938387Undoubtedly the best FF in 25 years. Galuf's sacrifice was amazing, I agree. Cid's was incredibly moving though and quite impactful.Cid is the catalyst that moves Clive forward from hate and sets him on the path to resolving his inner conflict and bolstering the consciousness/will that Ultima never manages to overcome.
>>506939252Its like a Michael Bay movie. Pretty much everything about it is garbage but some people like it for the big explosions.
>>506939525DUDE HATE ON THE OTHER ONE THEN ITS RIGHT THERE BRO WE ALL KNOW YOURE JUST HATING TO BE A HATER ANYWAYS. >>506939734Cid died like a fucking bitch. I don't think this game feels incomplete like other FF games but that first half is so scuffed. So much wasted potential. I don't know how this game's pacing feels extremely quick and extremely slow at the same time. Maybe it's because they go infodump loredump for 15 mins then all guns crazy in the next 15 mins with 30 mins of filler.
>>506936775
>>506939734>Clive is Cid's living legacyjust like Cloud and Zack...>>506940264He impales Ultima twice dude. Cid inflicted more serious wounds on the blueman group than literally any other character.
>>506940473okay so, ultima got out of that relatively scotfree until joshua came and vore'd his shit. felt like they could've written the scenario to cid's death a little better. like you know how ff7 og, they do the bombing mission and succeed and then the second one goes full oh shit oh shit? like that.
>>506939734And after that we have to watch the remaining 70% of the game on how Clive does not develop in any significant way. Because he is the strongest, noblest, and most strong-willed good boy. And in those rare moments when he even slightly starts to doubt something, all issues resolve themselves in a couple of minutes (just like in the scene by the sea with Jill). Peak dark fantasy writing.
>>506941113im not going to disagree with that but i also don't think that's a problem.
>>506940473>Clive is Cid's living legacy>just like Cloud and Zack...Cloud goes through a long, rather dark and traumatic internal conflict after Zach's death. It's affecting both him and those around him quite negatively. He is a character full of flaws who, after Zack's death, went through a long process of coming to terms with himself.Meanwhile your sweet boy Clive is such a cardboard piece of a character that the writers are afraid to write even a small mental conflict for him after his second encounter with Barnabas.The cult doesn't send their best today it seems.
>>506942242You're just minimizing Clive's struggles while expanding upon Cloud's, willful or ignorant bias on your part.
>>506934457Yuffie is so fucking cute I can't believe people are still fighting over second place.
>>506942669If the physical trials that Clive undergoes are, to you, real events relevant to the development of his characterisation, then my condolences. Barnabas was the only person who got Clive to move his brain even a little bit, to start reflecting on himself after the ‘accept the truth’ scene, but then Jill intervened and all the problems disappeared and the solutions came by themselves. A flat piece of cardboard with wasted potential.
i don't get why xvi gets the cult hate phenomenon when again xiv fanbase is PEAK ITS ONLY GOOD BECAUSE YOSHIPPPPPPPPPISSSSSSSS
>>506943947Anon, go to xiv general and ask. People rarely talk here about Wuk Lamat's slop.
>>506943947XIV used to get the hate cult. It's the same people; they just switched to XVI. Anything with Yoshi-P attached is fair game.
>>506945590Proof?
>>506942669The vast majority of Clive’s struggles happen off-screen in the eighteen years of his life we never get to see.
One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute!
>>506944343>>506945590FUCK XIV XIV IS TRASHXVI is actually kinda good, i can understand why people hate it though but the team is literally just doing what "works"
>>506937825Is this cultural appropriation?
>>506944343Damn, Wuk-chan looks like THAT?!
>>506948017The Final Fantasy XVI logo has to be there otherwise no one would know who he is.
>>506949649Clive is the most popular Final Fantasy protagonist.He's talked about here daily.His game was also the fastest selling PS5 exclusive on release and outsold Rebirth 2x over.
is clive technically stronger than lightning?
I came from the future to warn you that in the next few years this general will be flooded with Kingdom Hearts posters.
>>506950226It already is...
>>506950504No, you don't get it. Kingdom Hearts IS Final Fantasy
>>506950049>fastest selling PS5 exclusiveNothing on nothing. Xvi isn't as bad as some make it out, it's fun even. But this cope is pathetic. Fastest selling exclusive? Out of what, like 5 PS5 exclusives that exist? And talked about daily...he's the protag from the most recent mainline game. No shit lmao. Get it together.
>>506950225See last thread, basically yes.
>>506951563>>506952308Your world is but a fantasy.
>>506952669Tekken player numbers already re-stabilized to about what they were prior to Clive coming out. Once again, xvi is not horrible, but the glazing is ridiculous. You're insane.
>why yes, I have been monitoring any and all data related to XVI for shitposting material>no it is definitely (you) who are obsessed, not I!
for some reason i had a dream of Eiko, Vivi, Zidane, and random NPC's at some tavern on an island celebrating some event.
>>506953570>Answers to no points I play Tekken retard. Although with VF5 coming to steam in January I'll probably switch if there's a healthy playerbase there.
>>506954713I've been asking for Soul Calibur 6 port on Switch for years but no luck. Tekken is truly the worst cancer in the gaming industry.
>>506955109Harada openly advocate for other 3d games as competition. They just don't sell or keep up. VF has just been re releasing 5 for 20 years almost, and sc6 shit the bed all on its own. People just don't like it. DOA... the game might be fun but they mucked things up with titty drama lmao I don't blame Tekken
>>506952308Shit it’s not even exclusive anymoreEvery time I look at the list it’s different
>>506953570is Clive technically stronger than Clive?
>>506955773Bleak list. Consoles are so done. Fighting game players are already running locals on mostly laptops and PCs now if possible.
>>506955965It’s not Smash bros where Left Cloud and Right Cloud are different in strength
>>506955773And yet, the sales are still stuck at 3 million.
>>506956041PS5s are also prone to melt down which also effected that change
>>506955965no Clive is actually weaker, Clive clears easily.
>>506955965>>506956448Clive sweeps. No question about it.
>>506956356Sony is gonna be fine, but they really didn't stick the landing with the new era transition. Nintendo was right, as usual, to stay in their lane and do whatever they want instead of competing against anything.
>>506952308how did sony make a blunder of the ps5?
This words used to mean a lot for FF franchise.
>>506957728No one wanted a PS5 they wanted them to just support the PS4 longer
>>506957728When it launched they didn't actually ship enough, so no one could get oneAnd they were expensive as shit And >>506956356 they overheat And there's no exclusives, in fact most of their big selling points for the first year was just PS4 games with slightly better resolution. And then they kept releasing everything on PS4 for a while. And then everything just started being available for PC.
>>506958390It's weird how they announced the FF7 Remake on PS4 making it sound like a huge promise that PS4 users would get to play the whole trilogy, only to abandon it early. The PS4 version doesn't get the DLC from the PS5, which feels like a betrayal, even if they offer a free upgrade. I refuse to believe hardware limitations are the reason. Rebirth could also run on PS4 with a worse frame rate if they really wanted to.
>>506957895Nintendo >>>>>>
>>506959209Based
>>506959209We're going home soon
>>506937820>>506938648Peaks at Bahamut, MAYBE the boat level up to the sex scene. MAYBE stepping foot onto the last continent for 5 seconds.
>>506959043Is PlayStation just losing their market corner? Microsoft wins either way, consoles or PC supremacy in the end, and as stated Nintendo is it's own competition they don't care. Sony might go SEGA and have to refocus funds into (everything else they own which is everything)
Honestly if March is the launch month they need to avoid putting out anything that month.
>>506959512Soon. our prayers will manifest.
>>506959512I would say there's less than a 30% chance the next mainline isn't being built with Switch 2 in mind assuming the hardware leaks are true. PS4 Pro level performance is more than enough to do even open world games if optimized and structured appropriately.
>>506960220From what we’re hearing it’s closer to Series S
>New EC story's just an origin story for how Sephi got his sword while foreshadowing his downfallThis series are sick.
>>506959793Sony is doing fine for now, but they’re losing Japan and starting to realize they can’t compete with PC, so they’re going the Apple route and turning their brand into a luxury console for hardcore gamers instead of actually competing. Nintendo is going in the opposite direction, making their console cheap and accessible for everyone. Xbox isn’t doing either, but they won’t die because Microsoft has an infinite money bank.
>>506960272Even better desu. With proper art direction you can make anything look really good graphics aside. There's areas in XIV I think looked better than areas in Remake or XVI just because they had a really strong visual aesthetic. Xenoblade is pretty good at this as well imo. Open zones that aren't technically the craziest but still look really nice while running on a system far weaker than Switch 2 is supposed to be.
>>506960572Super weird to think about. The PS2 had us thinking they would run home gaming forever. The writing was on the walls when wii sports happened though, I should've known.
>>506960539so the masamune got influenced by Jenova
>>506960691I also say this because I mean look at Rebirth on PC it's a 120 GB release and it's only part 2 of 3 this whole trilogy is literally going to cost 200 dollars and eat up 250+ GB of space by the end. The lower end PC and console market is a large audience you give up when you make games like that. I feel like FF can still look decent without trying for literally cutting edge visual quality. XIV and XI is proof enough that people don't really give a shit.
>>506957895And their bane.Square should have pursued non-exclusivity since FFXII.
>>506960691Graphical fidelity isn't a feat or a huge selling point for a lot of people anymore. The kids now grew up with Minecraft, they don't mind pixel art or N64 gen polygons as a style choice. This is a good thing.
>>506961451who is this oc?
The way some people are talking we’ll see the first footage of XIs remake soon it’s just being held back by Nintendo not revealing their system yet.The accessory leaks are because they originally made deals implying the system would have been shown off by now so the companies are launching accessories with the original date in mind.I’m guessing they are going to fast track an announcement just to get control of the narrative again.
>>506961867IX Remake doesn't exist.
>>506961104>>506961194But FF can't just simply recourse to lower fidelity graphics. There is a sunk trust in this aspect. And it's not Square's fault entirely. Other video game series FF is competing against aren't going to budge their graphics either. The same with going back to turn-based won't solve anything but make it worse.The more realistic the graphics and action are, the genres are converging, not diverging. Rebirth has more in common with Soulslops than Metaphor imo.
>>506961986He meant VI 3D of course
>>506962073>genres are converging, not diverging.And this is not a good thing. Putting everything in a blender just results in brown sludge over time. We've lost more than we've gained, and I don't even hate the recent games. But I fear what's next.
>>506962295what if they were actually making a VI remake this entire time just for the switch 2
>>506961867SE is probably aware of the Switch 2 for years now, which is why they called out Nintendo’s platform when they announced going full multiplatform. But I wonder how much they’ve planned for the Switch 2. If the leak is legit, it should be able to handle most of the games they release this gen. DQ is obviously going to get 100% support from them.
>>506961194I think it's strange because Square has acknowledged the fact that you limit your playerbase the higher the fidelity is. Yoshida literally mentioned in interviews talking about the graphics update that they ran the risks of cutting a section of people off because they wouldn't be able to run the game anymore. Yet they don't apply that logic to the mainline series. I'm not even saying it needs to be like anime cel shaded or HD2D just like ER quality or something where the models and assets clearly aren't the highest end thing in the world but still look good while making the world something memorable and distinctive. It's not like they don't know how, XVI, ReTrilogy, XIV, even XV had striking set pieces and locations and they were rushing with that. They have like one of the largest art teams in Japan they can cook up something good I bet.
>>506962798It’s been implied some companies have more access to than other even down to a which team have access And example is it’s known Sega’s teams have access outside of Sonic Team shockingly.Footage of Crazy Taxi and JSR running on a Switch 2 dev kit leaked and Atlus’ line up is coming to the system but Sonic games from Sega are likely not getting any updates until later on since they weren’t approved.Nintendo could have approved the DQ devs and not the FF devs which would be funny but who knows.
>>506962659Id be really pleased, and I would play it and have a positive experience. But alas. Asano is banished.
>>506963405Square as a whole would get it, they aren't going to pick one franchise over another. They make money no matter what so long as it launches on the eShop. It just depends on if the FF teams are prototyping a game with the system in mind.
>>506963802The only major SE franchise to Nintendo is DQIf they felt like FF wasn’t worth their trouble they wouldn’t approve that team for early accessHell Horii was the first person to know about the Switch even in the entire company.
>>506962862It's not that strange, the games have always continuously looked flashier and flashier, and nip shareholders don't use critical thinking. They use conservative historical materialism as a basis for all decisions and nothing else. The new game must be bigger and more realistic because it always has been >"But that actually might not be what's profitable because the landscape has changed!"would send them into a schizo frenzy. A mainline title has to COLOSSALLY FLOP almost NO SALES for them to rethink anything, because then there's historical data to support that approach
>>506960908Seems to be the running theory.
>>506964075It's not just DQ, though. All their mid budget games sell best on the Switch. Their FF ports seem to be doing okay, but they've never ported a big AAA modern FF to the Switch before, so there's no real data to compare. Who knows, maybe they'll test the waters with the Switch 2.
>>50696507512 is on switch, but not 13. I imagine a 13 trilogy could be for switch 2 as an easy sell.
>>506965430It’d be strange for them to skip the Switch 1 when it can clearly run PS3 games, unless the remaster gets a huge graphic overhaul but looking at recent remasters, I really doubt that’ll happen. I mean, Isn’t the whole point of a remaster to make the old game available on as many consoles as possible?
>>506965984Square launched all their remasters as exclusives originally
>>506965984>>506966120True. FFIV 3d didn't leave the DS exclusive for years. But >>506965075>they've never ported a big AAA modern FF to the SwitchI just remembered that technically xv pocket edition exists lmao
>>506950225Lightning killed the actual Creator God. Ultima is no creator god.
Where the fuck is vanillefag when you need him
I think exclusivity is anti-competitive. If this was the US they would have criminalize such deals a long time ago.
Someone on /v/ told me XVI is the best oneAre they correct?
Turn based is dea- ACK
Aerisu!
My wife Eiko is very cute!
>>506974069What game is this?
>>506974367Octopath
>>506974731What does octopath mean anyway?
>>506974928>The term combines "octo-" (meaning eight) and "path," symbolizing the eight characters, each with their own unique journey or path in the gameThere you go
The pompom on Cloud's sword matches the one in Tifa's hair; the ribbon on Zack's sword matches the one in Aerith's hair.
>>506975703I want to match my penis with tifa pussy
Is FF3 psp a good place to start?
>>506976083Yes. The FF3 3D Remake for the DS is also excellent. (Also the FF4 3D)The PSP releases for the classic FFs are great choices to start with as well as the Pixel Remastered.
>>506973572Among the best, yes.
>>506961462I don't remember this part in 16Is it a mod?
>>506975703Very cute.
>>506979647100% bullshit
>>506980501Your taste is, yes.
>>506980734FFV is my farvorite game
>>506980906>we want the DQ audience FF
>>506980906That's some pretty good taste. >>506981119Of course. High fantasy is always the best Final Fantasy.
honestly ffxvi could've been better if all the girls fell in love with clive. i mean cloud has aerith, tifa, yuffie. you could've at least let tarja crushing on clive hard but noooo we only get boring ass jill and she's not like enamored with clive too. their relationship feels more like brother sister fucking than actual lovers.
>>506982483I felt some sexual tension there with Tarja and Vivian. Don't even get me started on Mid's bedroom eyes she was giving Clive.And then there's that constant potential for a Benedikta Anabella duo hatefuck that's so palpable. FFXVI women got me so thirsty right now boys what a 10/10 game
>>506983569jill sucks worst main girl by far.
Is the story of FFXVI good?
>>506984045yeah but i mean in comparison to what
>>506985260A coloring book for toddlers.
>>506985635jesus why do you have such a hate boner for this game
>>506985260RPG/Narrative GOTY winner Metaphor.
>>506984045Yeah. Mogs Redditbirth and Metaphor for sure.
>>506984045No
>>506983569Don't forget The Dame.
>>506985726You will never be paid to defend XVI anonymously.
>>506983569there being barely any porn despite the game releasing on pc with in-game nude models is a testament of how unpopular and unmemorable the game wasLGBT Fantasy Shit Stain: sold like shit on console, sold like shit on PC too
>>506922775get a ssdxv on ssd loads faster than xvi on ps5 ssd despite xv not even being optimised for ssd loading or map streamimg
>>506983569>>506987249Dudes always say they want a tradwifeThen tradwife Jill comes alongYet they deny her.
>>506987338>>506987361no seriously out of all games why have a hate boner for this. don't you have better low hanging fruit like dragon age?
>>506934560this>>506950049clive is the least popular ff character ever
>>506950225no he's weaker than 70% of ff protags >>506952308its not even fastest selling ps5 exclusive spiderman 2 is>>506973572fuck no
>>506984045FFXVI Story is a 2/10. The visuals and the music are doing all the heavy lifting but it's an utter DOGSHIT story, this is the writing of a fucking 10 year old. The way there is just these constant coincides and shit like, oh they arrived at the city and it just so happens that's the night Dion stage his rebellion, or like, oh just so happens when they come back to fix the ship that's when the gates bust down and the Akashic come through the gates and also Sleipnir is there again. Fucking Clive loses his whole entire family, his whole entire life, living day by day with no personality, hopes or dreams apart from finding out who killed his brother (turns out it was him but also not really), and then in the space of fucking FIVE minutes finds his long lost "sister", forsakes his whole station, kills his squad mates, meets someone who recognizes him for the first time, and that person just so happens to have his fucking DOG from when he was a kid, this happens literally FIVE fucking minutes after the fucking flash forward.I can't even say it had good characters because it really didn't, at best there was Dion but he has barely any screentime, Cid was ok but was a fucking moron, there was no good villain and any villain that could've been good was killed right when they were about to get interesting. There was no interplay between the pathetic excuse for a party, Jill was just a whole nothing character for the whole game, there was no chemistry between her and Clive, and shit like when Joshua reunites with Clive he doesn't even ask anything like "where the fuck where have you been?, Why didn't you try to find me?".The characters don't make decisions that make any amount of sense, they're not engaged in the story, they're not exploring their options, they're not thinking or talking, they're just nothing, they're just vessels to move the plot forward, it's like a bunch of school kids larping on the playground. This story was absolute dogshit. Fuck its bad.
>>506987651XV-kun/Barry is here now but the others have a long lasting vendetta against Yoshi-P for killing WoW. There is one zoomer here that also likes to trend chase so he has joined in as well to fit in.
>>506988682nobody likes ff16 its the worst selling mainline ff
>>50698765116 is widely regarded as the worst FF ever
Hello. What does this mean, and how big of a deal is it
I heard Tabata's favourite is XVI?
Remember this homosexual pedophile known as XVI-kun aka Dreamboum aka Larry aka Hakkix aka Frenchie?Yep he's the FFVII hater
>>506988682Proof?
>>506989007please help.....
>>506989159LmaoHakkix with the bantz>>506989030>>506989578XVI won bigly, it seems.
>>506989734The bantz is that he is an actual homosexual pedophile
>>506990074Fed falseflag
>>506984045It’s mediocre and full of contrivances and plot induced stupidity.
>>506989007>>506989617It's a big deal depending on who you want to rock the boat with.
>>506992442I checked google, and it said the one with the highest friendship status means they'll be chosen. Is that right? What happens if they're all the same level?
>>506984045Yea. It's at its during the revenge plot. After that, it's not as good but still fine.
>>506984045It has its moments, but I would never say it’s good.
>>506992250but enough about 7R
Final Fantasy 7R was truly a horrible game
>>506997770but enough about 16
>>506998151This
>>506998151Really was just bad all around.
>>506934457Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>506987651>don't you dare think negative thoughts about FF or I'm going to get really MAD
>>507004237That's... Why we're here.
>>506984045It presents itself as more competent than it actually is and tries to fool you. If you start to think about anything, from the gameplay to the plot, it starts sucking.
Weird, it feels like a lot of the points being parroted here against XVI are points I already gave a counter argument against last thread.I mean, I won't point out anything specific (so he keeps doing it) but it's the same writing style that I responded to, with the same descriptors....Yet he never addresses the points I made, only repeats his.Strange.
>>507004321>That's... Why we're here./ffg/ is not your hugbox.try /xivg/ or the xvi sub lebbit.
This is what Clive can never become.
If FFXVI had a job system or different types of weapons for equipping like SoP does, maybe we could've had meaningful weapon swaps and combos.
>>506989030Tabata's favorite is 6 and 7 and 1
>>506989734
even xv mogs xvi in terms of basic action combatwhat the fuck was suzuki and yoshitpiss thinking
>>507006654Looks like ass desu.
>>506936775Kek
12 ribbons and 4 economizers, I feel like I’m finally ready to assault Kefka’s tower.I can’t help but feel like I really fucked up by taking the Ragnarok magicite over the sword though.
>>507005335The XVI hate cult isn't sending their best, it seems
>>507007185Are you playing the SNES version? If you're playing any that lets you continue player after beating the game, you're good because you can steal them from the final bosses.
>>507007361SNES version :( I guess it gives me an excuse to play again sometime in the future.Maybe I’ll try the GBA version.
>>507007201And Yoshida cultnists are all trannies because they can't find straight people to join their little cult.
what a year for gaming
>>507010018you really blew all that money on tendie games?
>the council still haven't returned Wow, the council took the awards night worse than I thought, even though they didn't matter.
>>507006908looks better than any and every ff
>>507010914It was the only console with games this year, besides there’s no legit way to play DQX on PS5 unless you want a degraded experience and no one plays Japanese games on PC
>>507005335I'm seeing this kind of thing too. Many critical arguments towards XVI were not answered in the previous thread, but the local shills keep pretending they don't exist, spamming the same mantras non-stop. They never adress the points, only repeat theirs. The avoidance of discussion in this thread is staggering.
>>506984045better than xv
Questions, why do HDR screenshots look so shit? Why did the retards make the first playthrough so mind-numbingly easy? Have you accepted Rift Slip as your lord and savior? Ultima is purely for mobs, right?
>>507014549Because it reformats it for SDRAlso XVI is just an easy game, factually the easiest in the series since it was designed for newcomers.
>>506974069If you make a turn based game nobody will buy it. It's unfortunate but that's the reality.Also if you remake a game without making big changes to the story, nobody will like it. They'll call it boring and nobody will talk about it or buy it.
>>507014917Kinda like Rebirth
So Clive and Joshua are both 183cm (6'?), how tall is Dion?I can't tell if he's taller or if it's the boots/heels>>507014549Not letting you play on FF/Ultimaniac mode from the start is kinda dumb.Try the Basic Difficulty mod, the increased aggression is pretty fun. Nothing crazy but it's noticable in groups and makes lengthy animations like Mortal Blows riskier
>>506934457>currently playing ff14>everything and everyone is kinda lighthearted>big amount of non human characters and other races>hot girls>cute waifusthen they needed to make a new mainline ff>dark grim>only humans just because>everything is boring
>>507015630>Kinda like Rebirthdidn't play rebirth yet, but remake has in my eyes a perfect mix of action and turnbased combat, which is something FF tries to achieve.Also ff7 remake sells only bad because of three reasons- splitting up the game in three parts- it's a remake- time janniesThese timejannies made everyone shit on the game and therefore removed potential buyers. FF16 was really hyped and people bought into it, but then it was boring and that's why it had no legs.>>507014917>If you make a turn based game nobody will buy it. It's unfortunate but that's the reality.Is that the reason why persona, smt and metaphor sold really well?
>>507016982Persona, pokemon and dragon quest games don't count. The fact is if you make a game turn based, nobody will buy it. That's why FF had to switch it up. For sales.
>>507014917https://store.steampowered.com/app/521200/Epic_Battle_Fantasy_3/
>>506953570Is Tifa in it? If not I probably won't buy it.
>>506974276THE BEST
What are Joshua's attacks when he's a party member?I've seen him do a big fire ball a lot, and he used Hyperbeam ONCE. I can't tell if he can even canonically use Phoenix Shift since feats barely exists in story cutscenes
>>506953570>be regular in tekken general>waiting for new DLC character reveal>a fucking FF characterMe mad. more mad than Negan.
I get why autists hate FFXVI but the genuine confusion I have for normies hating FFXVI then singing high praises for shadowwalkers and endbringers will never not amaze me. How in the fuck did you think these two expansions ESPECIALLY endbringers has a better story? Bruh what the fuck do they see in XIV that apparently is the second coming of christ?
>>507014917I like turn based but I hate when people claim it's high IQ. bruh turn based is just trying to break the battle system ASAP, it's never well balanced and you just mostly unga bunga till the game is done.
>>507034174>I get why autists hate FFXVI but the genuine confusion I have for normies hating FFXVIIf most people hate XVI, then you might be in the minority.
>>506987651Bazzy big melty, as always. And salty VII fags.
>>507010018>playing Vengence on switchlmao
What happened to the OO poster?
>>507034174I'm still confused why there's a guy that shits on 16 and thinks 15 is the best>15 was an action game with some RPG elements, 16 was a full on action game with very little RPG elements>15 gives you limited control over commanding your party, 16 gives you even less to work withbasically 15 strayed far from what Final Fantasy used to be, all 16 did was take a few extra steps in the same direction
>>507038954>>507037893>>507035289we know it's shitposters im talking about reddit normies who go "durr i didn't really like ffxvi because it was just xiv but xiv is better!" like lmao in WHAT way is XIV better? it must be sunken cost at this point
>>507038954At its core, XV feels more like a true FF than some of the past entries because it fully utilizes the tent mechanic that’s been around since FF1 and integrates it into its storytelling. The only game that doesn’t deserve the FF title is XVI which strips away everything about the series' identity except the summons, but even those could be replaced with other names and the plot would still work.
>>507038946Some are still here.
Our girl is streaming the first Dissidia game. You don’t see many VTubers streaming old FF on PSP these days.https://www.youtube.com/live/CWKlViL0dN0?si=jIRPksmvwgXsYsxf
>>507040647The anniversary of Dissidia just happened, so it's not that shocking.Vtubers are dumb at hell though. Streamers generally are dumb as hell.
>>507041114Do NOT insult streamers, that's schizo behavior.
>>507041114The fact that we haven’t gotten another anniversary game like Dissidia just shows that the franchise isn’t worth celebrating anymore. XV did a fatal damage to the franchise and XVI really put the final nail in the coffin. Everything can only go downhill from here.
>>507046908>xiv
>>507040647who is he?
>>507049556>he
>>507006654None of it matters if you can't die. I like 15, it just wasn't the best>>507016586Dion is the same as the brothers I think. That artist seemed to make Dion taller, in game he isn't. It's funny because his face is so different when his expression is neutral rather than when he is tense or angry
>>507010018XVI was fun and mostly good.
>Ancients owe me sex
XVI was trash and deserved to fail, which it did.
>>507046908To be fair'>NT already had issues advancing the gameplay>OO died this year
>>507053064The 10/10 FFXVI was peak, I'm afraid.The best Final Fantasy in 25 years.For Fans and First-Timers...
>>506934552>>507055626very true
He's herehttps://youtu.be/A5NIhTAeuJE?si=0K43Ix7sOb6-nSzI
>>507057940The time has come.
>>507016596Ironic, I actually gave XIV more than a fair shot and had a complete opposite reaction.It felt like the worst parts of XVI (do-nothing boring sidequests) with none of the good parts.I leveled a GLA to 30, played a bit as PAL, leveled an ACN to 30 and tried out SCH and SMN.Fucking hated it all. It felt like playing a phone game except even those are more involved nowadays.XVI OTOH hooked me right away with the Demo. The combat only got better the more I played, I loved the whole "transforming into the Summon" deal they had, setting and story hooked me in right away with the characters.The weakest parts of it was where I felt the XIV influence the most (the sidequests)>grim darkI never got that.It's high fantasy from the very start. There's dudes throwing around magic like nothing. Phoenix/Ifrit was chapter 1 and that was anime as fuck, anything involving Titan, the archetype characters, it's all really anime.
Tifa...
>>507016596Oh I forgot 15 comes after 14.When you mentioned no hot babes Jill being ultra boring came to my mind.I generally don't think of 15 a lot.XV had tons of hot babes though, even if they barely had any screentime.Iris, Lunafreya, Gentiana, Aranea, the mechanic chick..I also disagree with you calling XV grimdark, like come on.
>>507059839Based Final Fantasy enjoyer.A lot of nuXIV players just use the game as a slice of secondlife sim so those are the types ignoring XVI, alongside the tendies.
>>507039542In some aspects sure, but I'd argue that the core of the series is shared with typical campaigns from its tabletop ancestor; it's about a band of heroes coming together to take down an evil threat.FFXV starts strong with its themes of brotherhood, but as it goes on it begins to focus too much on Noctis while side-lining his teammates and this culminates (if I'm not wrong) in being the first mainline game in which the entire final boss is a mandatory 1v1. The rest of the party contributes nothing towards the fight against the big bad. And before anyone points it out, yes I'm aware it's a "chosen one" story, but there had to be a better way than unceremoniously knocking the others out cold- the writers could have made them assist Noctis by holding back waves of daemons at the very least. Not exactly an inspiring way to do things but that way you could still say it was a group effort. If I was playing D&D and the DM was clearly favoring one character over everyone else I'd probably be disappointed if not a little pissed. If at the final encounter we're all forcibly knocked out and we're all told to sit back and watch this one player save the world by themself while our own PCs lie there helpless, then I'm sorry but that's just plain shit.To add onto what was said before, FFXVI takes this aspect from FFXV and goes further in the wrong direction. "Chosen one" RPG stories exist, but they really shouldn't be overpowered to the point where they leave their team in the dust. I simply don't understand why Final Fantasy of all franchises now has two numbered entries where the focus is on one special individual, I can only hope that 17 doesn't go down this road and gives us a group of equals, side by side. Perhaps you could say they're standing in a row.
XIVfags will never not confused me
This is cute but if Tifa wrapped herself around Cloud like that when he was 16 he'd cum immediately and pass out.
>>507054383The positive videos are no better. All they ever do is suck off the combat and production values, then they say it's the fans who refuse to accept change. If 16 was a spin-off no one would've gave a shit, just like Strangers of Paradise.
>>507038125I’m not giving up my bonus for versions that don’t get save transferEspecially when no one else plays the non Nintendo versions
>>507076314>put out SMT V on Switch>sells 1.2 million>put out SMTVV on everything>Atlus claims the entire “SMTV series” sold 1.6 millionWhy doesn’t SE use this kinda wording to help their games?
>>507039291I'm curious about this too. Does anyone know why?
>>507055626>>507073834>the kids in questionThey seemed to enjoy the 10/10 FFXVIalongside the majority of actual Final Fantasy fans
>>507079129see >>507060606og XIV players and series fans appreciate high fantasy kino FFXVI.Secondaries and atlus shills prefer kingdom sharts, modernglams and erpSimple as.
>>507077402>Why doesn’t SE use this kinda wording to help their games?They do. They hilariously did this with XVI by comparing install bases.Then they had to admit later it didn't actually reach the sales goals it was supposed to hit.
>>507080413oh you must be talking about Rebirthpretty sure XVI was the fastest selling PS5 exclusive
>>507073834SoP was the best thing to happen to the franchise this decade. Zoomers might not appreciate it now, but one day they'll look back and realize how good they had it. On the other hand, people will eventually see how horrible XVI really is, especially if XVII goes back to its root and be a proper turn based rpg once again
Rebirth always wins babyNobody care about the paid awards
>>507081830Yeah, nothing suspicious at all about Rebirth cleaning up a small Algerian awards show where Square Enix debuted a trailer for the PC version of Rebirth.Totally on the up and up.
>>507083403Finally, the only award show that really matters has weighed in.
>>507081830Square Enic sweep Algeria best Gran games awards.
>>507081313Not likely. In fact the opposite is happening. More and more are realizing that the loud minorities like (you) are full of shit and XVI really is 10/10.I'm also a big fan of SoP and Rebirth btw.
>>507080721>oh you must be talking about RebirthNope.https://www.ign.com/articles/square-enix-responds-to-final-fantasy-16-sales-concern-points-to-ps5-install-base>In a statement from Square Enix issued exclusively to IGN, the company pointed to the difference in install base between the PS4 when Final Fantasy 7 Remake came out, and the install base of the PS5 when Final Fantasy 16 launched last month.>“With 38 million PS5 consoles shipped globally (as of March 31, 2023), sales of Final Fantasy 16 surpassed three million units worldwide several days after its release on June 22, 2023,” Square Enix said.>“Taking into consideration the sales figures of the acclaimed Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the difference in size of the install base of the PlayStation 4 at the time of this title’s release, we can see that the attach rate of Final Fantasy 16 is considerably high, given the PS5 install base.
>>507084161>released on scheduleit was delayed>2 yearsit was 3 years>no development hellin development for 7 years and needed to bring in platinum and the osaka team just to finish a barebones combat system.
>>507084901The osaka team has shown significant improvement since KH3 but XVI’s combat is still a mess, even with their involvement. This just proves that even talented developers can’t make a difference if the leadership is incompetent.
>>507057940Yojimbo and the euro and the southern state won, VIIkek. You lost.
>>507079671The fastest selling PS5 exclusive FFXVI met expectations. It also outsold every JRPG including Rebirth 2x over.Rebirth however did not even meet its initial sales target. Both great games though so we should be happy with the absolute state of Final Fantasy despite the console exclusivity bringing the numbers down a bit.
>>507076314Pretty sure all up to launch save transferring wasn't mentioned at all, otherwise I'd have gotten the switch version.
>>507080014I like KH, SMT, and XVI.
>>507086935Oh, and Metaphor was great too.t. >>507053064
>>507086935Same. There are some very angry people that only pick one side and hate on the other, however.I personally just dislike the constant XVI hate that gets spammed but really liked both Rebirth and XVI, KH, SoP. If it's a good game... I like it.
>>507087384Metaphor was the best game I played this year. FF never stood a chance.
How does one feel samefagging all day just to make their opinion about something seem valid?
>>507088116The yoshicult needs validation for games they don't play.
>>507088116(you) would know better than most.
>>507088380This screencap will always make me chuckle.
How can a woman be this beautiful? I can't even look her in the eye.
>>507062660Noctis has always been the central character and the story still can proceed with him alone. Others were mere sidekicks but I don't think it diminishes the bro themes during the game. They took bullets too.
>>507053491>I will not be buying any games of the VII remake project
>>507088892We know you're autistic, Cloud
>>507088892Calm down, Nanaki
>>507084161What makes FFXVI a 10/10?
>>507081830Keep collecting these thailand award reborthbros
>>507091736Clive's booba
>>507091736>>507092353True
>>507081830What was the competition?
>>507091736it's more of a 8/10 for me. it has pacing issues. the plot is kinda dull at the beginning of the game. combat is fun.
I hope this general becomes more civilized when FF9 remake and FF13 remaster are announced. There's so much more to discuss about the franchise than just shilling XVI and 7R all day
>>507093348FF9R Chads are on the Yoshi-P side13fags on the 7R sideSo it'll be the same war.
>>507093675>FF9R Chads are on the Yoshi-P sideExplain
>>507093675>tfw 13fag and I like XVI way more than VIIRbut i hate yoship and xiv so what side am i on?
>>507088380You mean Bazzy, 7fags, and BEapes.
>>507081830GOTY status?
>>507094338Deflection is all you can do.
>>507093876Creative Studio 3 (FF14, FF16) is working on FF9R.>>507094164We'll take you on the Yoshi-P side as long as you remain positive about high fantasy kinoXIV is kind of shit since Dawntrail anyway
>>507084161Oh, this is the guy who threw a fit on twitter after months of pushing the narrative that a PC version would change people's minds totally backfired. Instead, more people ended up hating FF16 even more.
>>507094963ehhhh i don't think yoship is that praise worthy like nomura and kitase back in ps1 days. i do think you jerk him off too much to high hell. xiv was hella overrated in shb and ew, they're good fotm anime slop but it's still fotm anime slop
>>507095316I'm an ARR/Heavensward ChadShadowbabs begone
i will say playing through ffxvi i wish jill had a different voice actor. she's not bad but she sounds way too old for jill. like jill sounds a little awkward....compared to the rest of the cast. like her voice resonates girl boss energy but then jill herself is just kinda plain bitch. even in her hurrah cringe girl boss moment, it didn't sound...right or maybe it was just the direction of the writing and dialogue. idk. anyone else find the same? her face also looks a little off too.
>>507095675No, I love Jill. Everything about her is perfect imo.
>Imagine being a cuckti or zackfagIt's funny how they think these two are even real characters, one came from a literal eroge and the other came back (very late) from recycle bin garbage can,That's why 99.99% of zackfags are just cucktis in disguise, as fake as their delusion is.
>>507094963>one is just a port of mobile game, fantasian>one is XIV mobileLOL
>>507095546I've played since 2.4 bitch. I FUCKING HATE SHB and EW babies holyfuck. that whole community made me literally schizopost for like 3 years before i got into a concussion, lost my memories and only recently remembered who i was.
>>507094963FF9R is fucked, thenThat faggot ruined everything he touched
>>507093348FF9 remake isn't real.
Which FF game has the best fanbase?
>>507089779I shed a tear during that last camp scene, so I'd say they did a good job with the bros. Them and the car are what I think of when I think FFXV.I can't say the same for Lunafreya however, even though she's supposed to be important enough to warrant being the game's logo illustration. I'm confident in saying that instead of Stella being reworked into Luna, they should have just cut her entirely and put more attention on the lads. I'm not into shipping or anything like that, nor do I view the characters as homosexual, but brotherhood is probably what the game does best and sometimes you have to know when to go all in on one idea and hone it, rather than trying to do multiple things and coming up short.
>>507095986KEKAROOO
>>507096494SoP
I just support Yoshi-P because he continues the high fantasy style of Final Fantasy. Without him we'd just have the Nomura style.
>>507095283This dude definitely posts here.
>>507096669And that's a good thing
>>507096096Cloud, is that you?
>>507096494FFX
>>507096494FF2
>>507096669>>507096874Fuck no. High Fantasy Sakaguchi style is better, or at least necessary. KH fatigue is real.
its funny how FF9, ff12 and ff16 are some of the worst selling games with the most retarded fanbases.
>>507094772>n-no u...>t. deflected to yoshi as alwaysKekkity!
Why is the XVIhate cultists shitposter trying to start shit? I thought we were having a decent conversation here.
Since when do we have to pick the genre? FF has always been heavy on sci-fi since FF1. It has airship, submarines, and even a fucking flying space fortress.
>>507097453>>507097643The topic was always about the yoshicult. Not yoshida himself.Reading comprehension was never the cult's strength.
>>507097126>>507097646It's not so much genre. More like philosophy and storytelling style.
I prefer modern, contemporary FF the most but too bad we haven't gotten a real solid one since FF7. FF8 and FF13 were flawed as fuck
>>507097327IX and XII are the best ones though.Everyone knows it. X only sold anything because of how masterful IX was.
>>507097821Shonen anime vs Pretentious word salad?
>>507097821Well, the plot of FF1 is about time loop so any FF that the plot doesn't involve time travel or the multiverse isn't a real FF.
>>507097995Same with VI and VII tbհNomura has always been riding the coattails of his betters desu.
>>507098160nomura only did designs for X lmao.
>>507097995This is wrong on so many levels. IX was stuck between two kinos, VIII and X, with all three games released within a year of each other. VIII and X sold like hot potatos while IX flopped and got poor reception. VIII and X were made by Kitase and Nomura, while IX was handled by SE's leftover team.
>>507099108VIII was the B team.IX and X were not.
Tifa is such a whore, am I really supposed to care what happens to her at Corneos mansion?
Is Crystal Project good? Also any recommendations for games for FF5 feel?
>>507099948Also right before this Aerith was talking about her first love. Poor Cloud really can't catch a break with these sluts can he?
>>50710004610-2 is basically V if Bartz wasn't in the party.
>>507081830FINALLY a game award show that MATTERS
>>507100139He can BLOCK it just fine
>>507099948Please explain why you are badmouthing Tifa?That's some bullshit.
So how was Rebirth? I liked Remake for the most part but I wish it didn’t have those long and drawn out parts where you’re just… walking and talking.
>>507101478100/10
>>507097690>b-b-buhOK kid.
>>507100139Aerith-chan being used goods is the whole appeal of her character tho
>>507101478I was told Rebirth is the quintessential Final Fantasy.
>>507097690Please understand, he's not very intelligent.
>>507102604Is XV the fastest selling FF game?
XI is the best one, I'm afraid.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-rebirth-disrespect-is-not-sitting-well-with-me-and-i-need-to-release-some-silent-rage.1066941/
>>507102854Yes and the 3rd best selling FF game of all time
>>507102854Yes.But also the only one that launched day1 multiplat.
>>507102854Yeah, but only because people thought it was still Versus13
okay i get it, the flower is suppose to represent the kingdom and olivier doesn't care for it, anabelle steps over it, the king keeps sniffing it while dion wears it with pridei get the fucking metaphor can you stop putting it in my face every 10 seconds
>>507103317Lmaodo Rebirthkeks really??
>>507103317I don't know anything about Metaphor. Should I play it?
>>507103317Kek is that the same faggot who was begging people to buy multiple copies of Rebirth?
>>507103941No. You should buy an on-topic game like FFXVI. Or any other Final Fantasy game that you haven't played yet. That includes spinoffs like the 10/10 World of Final Fantasy.
why does ffxv keep getting posted and going viral by mens inspo accounts?https://youtu.be/dVcpVCA62YE?si=cBHt61uhcNM2aRje
>>507104261what the fuck is with male inspo accounts
Honestly, Atlus should make a Final Fantasy game.
>>507103941I’m a pretty big Atlusfag and I didn’t like it at all, it was weaker on the social sim and story side compared to Persona and the combat isn’t better then mainline SMT. It’s less then the sum of it’s parts.If you haven’t played a lot of Atlus games and aren’t as autistic as me you’ll probably like it.
How new is this Nomura/Tifa hater? I haven't been coming to the thread regularly but he seems very active and very obsessed, we don't often get new absolutely fucking crazy posters all that often right?
>>507051384you can dienothing in ff16 matters because "dying" isn't a penalty in ff16 because you can reset back mid fight with potions restocked and enemies HP taken down to what you had it, meaning there is no penalty or actual fail state in ff16
>>507104486We've always hated Nomura here. Kingdom Hearts general is down the hall and to the left.
>>507104261XV is the most socially relevant meaningful kino
>>507094963the 2 games were Fantasian port and ff14 mobile
>>507104686*women socially relevant
Tifa a CUTE and Nomura is based.
>>507104605I mean the Tifa poster, man. I know this place hates Nomura and Yoshi-P and basically everyone else, that's not new.
>>507104486The clearithcuck schizo? He appeared with the release of Stillbirth. I think he’s chinese because all his pictures are from a chinese forum.
pulse falcie are enemies of cocoon
>>507104686That's still XVI, sorry Barry.
>>507104816Threadly reminder that Final Fantasy XIII is 10/10 and the most impactful and culturally relevant Final Fantasy yet.
>>507096494XV
>>507103978Yep.https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-realistically-make-rebirth-more-of-a-success.843993/
Maybe, just maybeeee all the waifufags are the same poster?
I haven't played XVI in a week. Stopped when the blonde whore lady lost Garuda and freaks out.Convince me to go back to it.
>>507105147tranny XIII and its consequences have been a disaster for Final FantasyIt's no coincidence that the LGBLT youths have suddenly rediscovered XIII as some masterpiece it never was.
>>507096494FFXIII
>>507096494FF4 fans have no qualms about telling you After Years is trash, which I find both based and sad.
>>507096564everything cs3 has been involving in has flopped >ff16 ps5 flopped >ff16 dlc flopped >ff14 dawntrail flopped >ff16 pc flopped >fantasian (ported by cs3) flopped yoshitpiss is poison
>>507096669yoshitpiss doesn't do shitff14s aesthetic predates yoshitpiss and 16 doesn't look like ff nomura is ffthe 4 highest selling ff are all nomura characters with naora art direction, them two together is the secret sauce of FF
>>507102854YesStill is 8 years later too
>>507105696Fantasian flopping is the only sad news here. Sakaguchi's games shouldn't be tainted by Yoshida's curse.
>>507104686true
>>507105696>fantasian (ported by cs3) floppedRIP
>>507105896see >>507104605
>>507104816global socially relevant still inspiring new gamesyour pic is japan only audience so out of the 1.3m~ xv sold in japan 71% is female audience
>>507106531No source for this claim.
Oh boy I hope XV-kun responds to my post next!
>>507105272lol
>>507096496The logo was originally not Luna. It was Etro, FNC goddess of death.
>>507104816Is this why it's so popular on that gay fanfic site?
>>507106553nice try yoshitpiss fagnomura is ffeven ff14 owes itself to nomuras ff11 designs
>>507106965Dim sum there lives a sheltered life it seems
>>507106970the logo originally had no meaningit was just an illustration amano drew alongside agito xiii, xiii and fnc xiii logosthe agito logos are diva yet those aren't fnc gods from nojimas lore they were created after the factsame with ff13 being fang and vanillethey didn't even exist when ff13 logo was madethe logo is lunafreya she was going to turn into this jn the final battle in base xv, but that was scrapped, it was then gonna be repurposed as a posessed luna in dotf but that got canned
I'm glad SE did that restructuring to take power away from Nomura and Kitase. (and Tabata fired)CEO-kun finally learned where true Final Fantasy and all the money is being made. Yoshi-P full control soon.
>>507106970Yeah... it probably should have been switched to something else when they did the rebrand and changed stuff.Luna taking the position of an image that was drawn before she was even created never sat right with me.
>>507107184Nomura is good (at character design) when he's on a short leash (sometimes)Eardnarche and Lion have designs that kind of stick out compared to the rest of Vana'diel.
>>507106970The funny thing is Etro was supposed to be the most important god in FF13 lore but the game barely elaborates on her outside of its database. She even gets killed off screen just like Luna
>>507107607Tabata wasnt fired, he resigned.
>>507108559Do you know what seppuku is, my boy?
>>507081830
>>507106740See >>507095986>>507096564
weird how baXVy and the VIIRgins always seem to show up at the same time....
>>507109540Same timezone. Australia and SEA.Vaynefag called this long ago
>>507109540youre right, lets talk about the other things going on in Final Fantasy right now. oh thats right its a dead franchise
>>507109540And you’re here too... what a coincidence!
>>507107607>>507108559>he r-resigned!LolLmao
Top 5 FF games? No spinoffs
>>507110013XVIXIIXIIXV
>>507110013>5>9>10>13>16
>>5071100135 > 6 > 7 > 12 > 14I kind of have a preference for FFs with jobs.I stopped 14 before End Walker and didn't do any of the end game stuff. Leveling up the different jobs and open world stuff is fun. Didn't care for instanced content.
just got to bahamut fight in ffxviuhhh did someone forget to tell jill that she can turn into shiva too????
>>507079671>>507086292>>507084161>Still pulling this same cope 1 year laterThe joke's just not funny anymore, man.
>no spin-offsGo fuck yourself, Final Fantasy Tactics is fantastic and deserves to be with the rest of the games.
>>507110013>IX>IV>XII>VI>XVIMedieval/antiquity/renaissance has me by the balls
>>507111430Okay. Top 5 spinoffs?
what do you even call the subgenre of kaiju if it's people transforming into kaijus?
>>507111897Tokusatsu
>>507110783It wasn't her fight. It was a battle of bros.
>the bahamut fightokay so when does the peak of ffxvi happen because every eikon fight gets better and betterhow in the fuck do people say the prologue was the best part? GOTfags?
>>507110148>>507110157>>507111479We have a lot of XVI Chads in the thread tonight. Pretty based desu. >>507110928Where's the lie?>>507113095Those "people" are just shitposters that didn't play it>>507111637Tactics WoTLCrisis CoreWoFFCrystal ChroniclesSoP
>>507111637>Crystal Chronicles>Dissidia/012>Jackie Chan>World of Final Fantasy>Theatrhythm
>>507113395I changed sides temporarily to shit on Redditbirth. Don't get too cocky.
>Where's the lie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNK4VKeoBMman XVI was so entertaining.
>>507113646Lol fair>>507113395Does Bravely Default count? Playing now and really enjoying it.
>>507111637>Final Fantasy Tactics>X-2>Dissidia>World of Final Fantasy>Type-0
>>507114418I honestly disliked Type-0 so much that I want to make it my personality and go out of my way to remind everyone every time it comes up.
>>507114856common Tabata L
Damn Ultima is a threatening villain too. I'm surprised people thought he was boring.
There’s something insane that SE can’t call their games successes anymore because of the PS5>Fastest selling PS5 timed exclusive>Fastest selling single character action based final fantasy >Fastest selling game starting Cloud on PS5
>>507114856I remember not liking the intro, lol.>>507115249Sony really needs to pivot back to Japan.
>>507115371>Sony really needs to pivot back to Japan.
>>506971794playing Final Fantasy XVI, probably with difficulty mods, since he can't shut up about difficulty mods for every game
>>507115472Nintendo does well enough in Japan. Sony can do that again too if they bothered again. Or maybe make PSP3
>>507115745>Nintendo does well enough in Japan.70% of Nintendo's income comes from outside of Japan.
>>507115871Yea, but they still do well/better than PS inside Japan
>>507116049You don't make them sound better when you compare them to dogshit.
>>507116160Still true though.
>>507115701>playing Final Fantasy XVImany such casesmillions even
>>507113395Pretty comfy thread tonight brosNice chatting with you all
>>507115745An investor in Japan told Sony the only way they could win Japan is if they had Mario, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Splatoon on PlayStation.
>>507116975Sony needs to revive ips, make new ips, and probably buy 1 or 2 publishers to compete over their. Probably all 3. New handheld done right would help too.
>>507117217There’s literally no one to buy they can afford and would be worth it.Anyone worth it is too expensive or would lead to Japan cracking down.Nintendo wasn’t allowed to by Namco for example.
>>507117816They'd probably be able to buy SE. Not that I want current PS to touch them
>>507118056Snoy is buying the parent company for Soulslop that's pretty bigNot as big as buying SE of course but it's something
>>507118056They’d be considered too big. As far as I know the only people they could pick up are like NIS or Falcom which are worthless but that’s it.Best option in Japan would be to sell their games on Nintendo truthfullyMH and DQ couldn’t save the PS5
>>507118239Actually they only got 10% of their shares. Enough to make them the largest shareholder but not enough to do anything crazy.Not like Souls games can win Japan
>>507118239Actually they aren't. Sony just wanted the anime stuff, but Kadokawa wanted them to buy everything. In the end, they settled on Sony buying more shares. Now they're the largest shareholder. >>507118580PS5's biggest issue in Japan is the price and not enough 1st party stuff that Nips care about. Solve those and a potential buyout of SE would probably fix things for them.
>>507118779What first party would Japan care about? They have literally nothing unless they get Nintendo to help them
>>507118879>What first party would Japan care aboutClosest was Astro Bot excluding stuff like timed exclusives and even that wasn't a smash hit, but that's my point. They've got nothing rn and the PS5's price and even size make everything worse.
>>507115472Sad. Phone games aren't really games though so I don't think they should even be compared to real video games with actual story and gameplay.It's like saying gaming is doomed just because Pachinko is so big.
>>507119069Astrobot flopped in JapanIt only sold around 15k copies or so
>>507119069Price won’t matter if they don’t have softwareSomeone who bought a PS5 even if it was $200 wouldn’t want Astrobot because that’s just settling for less. Why buy a console for a clone of a game?
>>507119132Probably would have done better if not for the aforementioned issues.
>>507119302Not likely, other Sony Platformers didn’t do well last gen or the gen before.
>>507119276In that case the game is good so it doesn't matter.
>>507119464That’s never helped, people don’t waste time with imitations.It’s why world wide Astrobot floppedSony needs names on their system
>>507119425Astro bot is arguably the one that did the besides Crash though>>507119606>Sony needs names on their systemYou mean like FF and the like?
>>507119714Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Splatoon
>>507120372No one's gonna buy a PS for those, save for Zelda
>>507120518If they got them exclusively, fuck Animal Crossing is currently the best selling game ever in Japan
>>507120578>If they got them exclusivelyWhy would Nintendo ever allow that. PS just needs to go back to being weeb central
>>507105116>FF7のティファが苦手・嫌いな人用スレ>chinese forumThat's why I always say you illiterate vermins deserve DDT rather than informations.
>>507120710Weeb central hasn’t helped them at all.It’s all about having the icons of Japan
>>507120372What do these series have in common?
>>507120909Weeb central gave them an identity. Like how Xbox used to be the dude bro console or how PS used to be the JPRG machine. I bet having DQ12 would help them a lot, but SE probably won't make it timed exclusive now
>>507119132Nintendo wins again, baby!
>>507121167DQ12 wouldn’t be timed exclusive because no one ever really played DQ on SonyShit DQX is on the verge of being shut down on PS4/5Sony never had strong first party in Japan outside of GT
>>507121403I'm saying nips would go out and get consoles if it was timed.
>>507121403DQ11 released on PS
>>507121883Yeah and it got fucking destroyed by the 3DS version
>>507121542Didn’t help with DQ Heroes or 11Sony as a brand is poison in Japan unless they can get some Japanese gaming icons on their systems
>>507122236>Didn’t help with DQ Heroes or 11Those weren't exclusive.
>>507122360Heroes 1-2 was a PlayStation Exclusive in Japan until 2017And DQ11s main version was exclusive until the Switch version
>>507101478Better but still has baggage Remake had.
>>507122089Why is Nintendo so powerful?
>>507107607yoshitpiss lost power and they started using Tabata's flat organizational structure when they restructured SE in May 2024, stripped producers of power aka stripping yoshitpiss of power, and promoted Tabata's guys Aramaki the xv lead engineer and pc edition director who is now currently head of SE's engine development division and in charge of SE's in house engine aka luminous engine, and promoted Nozue the creative director of Agni's Philosophy aka the first luminous engine project, and total visual director/movie director on XV and director of XV kingsglaive to an executive position alongside Hamaguchi and Asano When Tabata amicably resigned on good terms in 2018 he took a bunch of SE staff with him including Versus XIII, KH2, TWEWY devs in addition to XV staff and Agni's Philosophy designer>>507110003Tabata said he resigned SE said he resigned Saito said he resigned and was still on good terms with SEverified SE insiders said he resigned And now currently Tabata's main clients are Nintendo, Sony, Bandai Namco, Epic Games and Mistwalker so he is working with Sakaguchi currently too.meanwhile yoshitpiss was fired from dq10 then had his new ip cancelled and got kicked off the arcade game he was doinghe literally only took on ff14 because nobody else fucking wanted to and because he was literally free as a stray dog within the company alongshore takai he lucked into ff14 which anyone with a brain couldve fixedthen he caused SE to lose 2 billion when xvi flopped and caused SE to restructure
>>507125779>Makes good products>People buyThey make not just good hardware, but also good games. It's no brainer really.
>>507127601Holy shit
>>507128003just barry sperg copypastanothing new
>>507127601bloody hell
>>507127601They can't refute this.
Finally finished VI; Kefka’s tower was definitely the highlight of the game.Greatest final boss battle of all the FF’s I’ve played so far (6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15).The ending didn’t do much for me though.Shadow electing to commit suicide out of nowhere after acknowledging he had something to live for just moments before was fucking stupid and it didn’t surprise me to discover Nomura wrote the character.I also wish there was a bit more to do in the world of ruin.Still an amazing game though and every bit as good as Chrono Trigger in my opinion.
>>507128206He’s not wrong about Yoshida failing as a creator though. Everything he’s touched outside of XIV has made SE lose money.
>>507128617>outside of the massively successful XIV that prints money for SE every yearAlso the fastest selling PS5 exclusive outsold its competition and broke even the first week.XVI restored faith once again in Final Fantasy among fans and first-timers like XIV before it.So.. (you) are very wrong.
SE should try to make a big move for the Switch 2 launchThe line up we know so far isn’t too big for them to get buried outside of one game
>>507130939It didn’t outsell XV in the same time frame, and its sales are still stuck at 3 million even after the PC port and the protag joining the most popular meme fighting game. How do you explain that without sounding like you’re coping?
>>507130939It sure as shit didn’t outsell Diablo 4.
Is Ever Crisis fucking dead? I reinstalled on a whim and haven't been able to get a co-op connection all day.
>>507121298i'm not regretting my choices of downloading them digitally right? what are the chances they will make ports for switch 2? they should really put a collection of the five final fantasy titles together like pixel remaster.
>>507114856I'll never forget how hyped I was seeing those JP gameplay vids all those years ago and being disappointed it never came to the states, then got hyped again when that translation patch suddenly came out a few years later and my brainlet ass spent hours trying to figure out to get it to work on the PPSSPP, only to be disappointed again that Machina and Rem were the only characters with any sort of depth while Ace and co were just...there. They all came off like below average, one-note Saturday morning cartoon characters it was such a letdown.Think I lost interest and dropped it during the RTS mission or whatever it was.Can't recall if that was before or after that teacher summoning Alexander or when Ace and co. turned into Bahamut. Gorgeous looking game otherwise and the combat was decently fun. Liked the war setting too. Tabata's also got a knack for directing human tragedy with how much blood and death was in that game. Eight's also top tier.
>>507135974You had to be there when Type-0 was new to truly appreciate the hype around it. I remember waiting all night for someone to upload the ISO file, just so I could be one of the first to play it. And when I finally did, the game completely blew my mind. It was the first major FF game to go full action outside of the Crystal Chronicles series. Seeing an action-based FF with graphics on par with FF12 running on a PSP was unreal, it felt like a miracle the game could even run on PSP at all. Sure, the gameplay had its flaws, but at the time, they were all forgiven because it was on the PSP. I couldn’t read moonrunes back then, so I didn’t know how bad the story was and honestly, I didn’t care.
>>507130939Funny how you keep repeating yourself when the director himself already admitted the game was a failure on every level
>>507137592You picked a bad time to trigger the Yoshipiss cultists, they’re not awake yet.
>>507094963Probably the rumored FFT remaster and a port of XVI for the switch successor, right?
>>507139483PS5 can barely run XVI
>>507139772works on my machine
yo dawg.This guy litThis is my final fantasyThank you Nomura
>>507105496Don't. I went on for a lot longer than you did. I had to take a month-long break to muster up enough willpower to even finish the game just before Clive went to Ash. The whole thing was not worth the time, effort, or money. Genuinely one of the most boring, anti-fun games I've ever played.
>>507103317Would someone really do that?Just go online to release silent rage?
What to do?
>>507156353First thing you should do is cut your nails "ma'am"
>>507156353Cut your nails, holy damn.
>>507156353Make her do some manly things like this.>As if you butthurt vermin can really afford anything>https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/1h66s9f
>>507156353that's definitely a man
>>507159932*trans
>>507093348Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Remaster will save Final Fantasy.
>New Square Enix merch shop opens in Shibuya>few days later and I STILL can't find a tour of the placeI genuinely can't tell if they sell OSTs there or not because the photos they shared are so ass.I THINK that's the XVI boxset on the right but it looks a bit small.
>>507162819No one cares
>>507162819>>New Square Enix merch shop openswho honestly gives a shit
Noctis is probably the most overpowered FF protagonist but he’s still a baby.
Does anyone know of a site where I can check the exact spawn points of monsters in the early Final Fantasy games?I know such a site exists, I have used it in the past for other games. But no matter what I google I can't find it now.It told me the exact floor an enemy would spawn, and how high the % of that specific enemy counter was compared to the other encounters on that floor.Most sites just say a really vague "Tower of Babil" for example, but I'm looking for "Tower of Babil, F8, 13%".I'm going fucking insane because I cannot remember what it was but I know it exists.
>>507165694nvm I found it, it's https://guides.gamercorner.net/Fucking garbage gamefaqs and fandom wiki shitting up every google search
>>50716281>XVIWho cares
I will love Aerith until I die.
I don't have ADHD so I guess the 7R battle system will just always suck to me. Sad.
>>507173791I don't think having autism instead is a good thing.
>>506937820It's got spectacle but nothing else. The Eikon fights usually have you fight gimped with less moves even if you're bigger and tougher.
>>507173909Atleast you don't need medication to live with autism.
>>507173791Was it too difficult for you?
>>507174104Just a helmet
>>507173791I'm not okay with any 7R criticism, but I'm ESPECIALLY not okay with criticism of 7Rs combat. Prepare to be grilled.
jimboree time.
>>507174129Yes. The constant unavoidable damage, the annoying 5-10 second stuns, party AI being totally useless, bosses not giving a single fuck and just blasting you with a massive damage move with less than a second of warning. I could go on.It's not the worst but the more I played the more I hated it. I hope Rebirth is better somehow, I don't know what they changed.
>>507174896Damn, that was a fast confirmation. Funny how I could tell you were here.
Now to further cement the confirmation with a brand new routine
*twirls mustache*
>>507175212How've you been, anyway? Were you disappointed by the awards show? How do you feel about Clive in Tekken?
Holy shit Ascension and The Riddle are so fucking good.This whole soundtrack is fucking killer
He'll give me all the posts I want, but will, without fail, clam up if I ask him about Final Fantasy. That's his kryptonite.I guess we'll have to wait until someone needs to be grilled for saying something negative about 7R instead of XVI.
>>507175632Soken really cooked.XVI and its soundtrack truly are 10/10.
>>507156353>>507158709
>>507137240Based. I had the same feeling. Although the premise was fucking retarded; a nation sending children to die, the theme song, the doom atmosphere and the playstyle variety you get from the cast truly made it phenomenal. Like you would think a flute playing girl could work in an action game? Also everyone was best girl except for Machina.
>>507182647The premise is always solidTabata just never manages to execute it properly
>>507182647Sending children to war makes sense in the game’s plot because people in Orience lose their ability to use magic after reaching a certain age since their connection with the Crystal weakening over time. l’Cie being the only exception, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnPH_z7VICw
>>507190313she cute
other than AoT what are some other series about people transforming to monsters to battle each other?
Thinking about FF BE girls again. I miss them so much bros it's hurts...
>>507193494DevilmanDigimon
Does EC keep Yuffie's shorts unbuttoned!?Maybe I've misjudged it.
>>507197348seen these two already
>>507130939ff16 still hasn't broke even and spiderman 2 is the fastest selling ps5 exclusive btw xv is still in top 5 fastest selling video games of all time for day 1 salesalso multiple games with ps5 versions outsold ff16 on ps5 too
>recently executed child killer/cannibal fetishist had a pet rat named Freya that he used to lure his victim to her death What the FUCK is wrong with IX fags?!
>>507199952Oof
My retarded and rotten whore Aerith is the shittiest.
>>507199952What will you do if XVI ends up outselling XV?
>>507193494Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
>>507193494>>507204058Not Final Fantasy
>>507204870
>>507204870Better than XVI
Talk about a FF game that isn't Rebirth, XV or XVI.
>>507210236I’d like to know more about 6’s warring triad. Where did they come from? Why were they so angry at each other?
>>507210236Kingdom Hearts 2 is the greatest game ever made.
>>507212036Are you okay with it being criticized?
>>507212613Only if it's a fact.
>>507206572Cringe
>>507212998How do you discern between critical facts and critical opinions?
my old 360 controller for PC is starting to die (the sticks are worn out), are dual senses worth the money or get an xbox controller? i have a $25 gift card for amazon
>>507213724Facts = criticism I agree withOpinions = worthless "criticism"
>>507214954I see
>>507103317VIIsisters...
>>507214954Here's some fact for you. XVI is fucking dogshit.
>>507214607Dualsense are the best8bitdo for a cheaper option
>>507203738it can't even reach 4m sales lol
>>507224082Trust the 18 month plan. We WILL break even (if you don’t factor in inflation).
>>507224082Kek
>>507224082Lmao
What a surprise, more XV cut content.https://youtu.be/Ha97XW-Zu00
stop blaming jenova for everything it's cringe
>>507199952xv is in top 5 fastest selling video games of all time when you limit the data to only games that reported on day 1 sales*
>>507175632>>507180495Beyond the Heavens/Ascension and Away really stuck with me, they sound like themes that if they released 20 years ago on a legacy JRPG people would be sucking them off way more..It kinda pisses me off how little recognition modern OSTs get, felt the same way when REVO had banger after banger for BD yet no one gave a fuck
>>507199952How did it do those numbers? Why hasn't an FF done so since then?
>>507237032[Worldwide] [Multiplatform] launch on [day 1.]Every other game had 1 or more limiting factor.
>>507237312Pretty retarded of them to go back to exclusivity after this
>>507237394SE is always 1 foot forward, 1 foot in mouth
>>507237032Many long running franchises did really well with their first major entry that generation so FFXV being on top isn't a special case by any means, it was just following the trend.Sales numbers dropping for subsequent entries is also common across the board, it's just been a lot harsher for Final Fantasy because SE are stupid and went with exclusivity.
>>507229816Damn. Maybe it should have done what XVI did and sold it as DLC.
>Dissidia NT doesn't let you skip cutscenes>When 012 let you turn them off entirelyFor what purpose?>Playing NTIt was on sale for (relatively) cheap, I played the free version so I had an idea of what I was getting myself into and I want to feel something.
>>507237312It wasn’t on PC on day one, and FF’s audience isn’t on Xbox so those sales are more limited.Granted, SE always reports units shipped and digitally sold, not necessarily sold, so lots of Xbox copies sitting on store shelves could have inflated that number pretty drastically.
Digits determine which FF I play tonight
>>507244398>8Already beat, rerolling
>>507244691>Post Warrior of Light>Get 1It's fate.
>>507236959So trueA sign of the times
>>507246343Time for Mt Gulg
>>507240673>done what XV didFixed that for you.
Jote is an S-tier cutie, shame she's so wasted in XVI.Another anon mentioned an idea of having teammates with assignable commands (like Torgal) and that would've been so good IMO.>>507240673Rising Tide doesn't really feel like cut-content like a lot of XV stuff does.Also I get you're being facetious faggots but no one would buy DLC of an alternative SCENE.
>>507250362If The Rising Tide hadn’t released then Leviathan would have simply remained an unexplained plot point forever, no different than Gladio’s scar, but holding significantly more plot relevance than a simple scar.
If 7R never released the parallel Stamp timelines would have remained an unexplained plot point foreverThat would be a damn shame imo
16 made it's budget back on the first day16 is better than 15ff7 rebirth is one of the best games ever made
>>5072552462 of these statements are true.
>>507255246I don't know if Redditbirth will really stand the test of timeIt basically just threw a bunch of Ubisoft trends together with an FF7 coat of paintWhat innovation did it really bring to the table?
>>507255714What do you consider to be innovation? Give me some examples from recent games that, in your opinion, innovated. I know this comes across as me dodging the question, but bad faith is the norm rather than the exception now.
>>507255246Yeah? 15 and 7R made half of its budget back from a mobile game alone, who's winning now?
>>507256082Why didn't XVI get a pachinko game like XV?Does XIV Mobile count?
>rebirth will be goty he says
>>507241617It's an okay/10 game.
>>507262098It really is once you get used to it, but it definitely has some questionable design choices, especially menuwise.
who is this whore?
>>507265707SAUCE
>>507260675Part 3 will definitely win.Trust the plan.
>>507255714>What innovation did it really bring to the table?Fully playable party, with each member having their own unique combat system. In an action rpg genre that usually sticks with one party member. Not only that, they have multiple synced attacks between each party member. So you have dozens of unique combinations to do in combat.I'm sure you played it though.
My thoughts on the only two games this general seems to care about.Rebirth, like Remake, defaecates on 7’s legacy, turning a genuinely mature story into generic shonen trash.Combat is not particularly engaging and a majority of the minigames feel like a chore rather than a fun bonus. Visuals are gorgeous, the soundtrack is fantastic, and I mostly enjoyed exploring the world.I don’t think I’ll be picking up part 3.XVI was a fairly poor action game with a thin veneer of jrpg-ness.The combat managed to be worse than Rebirth’s, exploration was unrewarding, plus the world and a majority of its inhabitants were just plain unpleasant to look at.The story did manage to hook me even though the characters, Clive especially, were dull as dishwater.The whole thing felt like a cynical gob in the face of longtime FF fans. Final conclusion: the CEO of Squeenix needs to naked dogeza at the Gooch’s feet and beg him to save his shitty company.
>>507276354>turning a genuinely mature story into generic shonen trash.VII was always a shonen story. Its not a bad thing either. Marginalizing videogames doesn't make you an interesting person.
>>507276354See you in part 3 bro
>>507276354FFVII was always bad, so you don't get to criticize the remake series even though they are standalone games. And you're boring if you do criticize them.You'll buy part 3 anyway so all your criticisms are invalid.No notes on your XVI criticism, that's fine.
Threadly reminder that Cecil Harvey did everything wrong.
Why did OO ended, it was so fun...
>>507283083No one said this.
New Noctis figure just announced coming as the 2nd Play Arts Shin figure after Vincent (play arts shin is the new revised and more expensive fig line of play arts, more detailed and better paint than play arts kai)https://x.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/status/1871118560673800694?t=DHBSL0v0V0X4QuNhQ3SlaQ&s=19
>>507284738Bring Arts is the better scale.
>>507284738But /v/ told me that SE didn’t want anyone to remember that XV even exists.Why would they re-releasing XV figures now? Did Nomura commission this?
>>507284738xv keeps on winning
>>507284738>SE merchOh boy, more overpriced garbage that looks like shit!
>>507284997Bring arcs is smaller scale than Play arts kai or shin and cheaper in quality It goes Adorable arts as chibi, Bring Arts as lowest poseable, then Play Arts Kai and now Play Arts Shin as their most deluxe jointed fig lineAdorable Arts, about $70, chibi proportions, currently only FF7R characters and also NoctisBring Arts are around $70-$130, smaller scale than play arts Kai (Vincent bring arts is $120)Play arts kai is arts $155-$200 (FF7R version 2 Cloud is $155)Play Arts Shin is $200 (FF7R Vincent is $200, currently the only fig in the line prior to Noctis)>>507285318dunno but they just released Noctis Adorable arts too, so that's 2 new Noctis figs shown in late 2024, though noctis shin fig will be a late 2025 release since Vincent's says November 2025
>>507286881Looks good to me and has poseable cloth parts now, and revised joints, and moveable eyes now, plus better paint than their play arts kai stones faces had
play arts kai at topplay arts shin at bottombottom has moveable eyes too
Barry hours already?I'ma make rebirth thread to farm hundreds replies
>you can STILL readily buy clive bring arts from the SE store>meanwhile all xv play arts kai sold out on official SE store in 2016talk about unpopular; and xvi so shit it didn't even get their bigger scale figs, instead the smaller bring arts line that they use mainly for stuff thats more stylyzed like twewy figs or nomura art style ff7 figs or ff tactics or xenogears https://na.store.square-enix-games.com/final-fantasy-xvi-bring-arts-action-figure---clive-rosfield
>>507287706>The promotional images look goodsweet summer child.
I really love Aerith and I hope she comes back in part 3.
>>507288675reminder that barry won
>>507288726thats play arts kaii didn't say play arts kai is goodI'm saying play arts shin is a better revised version of their play arts kai line
>>507288883>>507288726also unless you bought your play arts kai from official stores then theres a high likelihood that you bought a chinese bootleg
I just wish they released Ramza with his mercenary clothes instead of the faggy ones he only wears in the flashback chapter.
>>507288883>Play Arts Kai line looks absolute shit to this day with worse quality control than $15 prize figs>Bring Arts comes out, maybe at a smaller scale they won't fuck it up>it looks like shit>Static Arts comes out, surely a non-articulated statue will look better>it looks like shit>Okay, despite Play Arts Kai being overpriced for the quality you get, hear me out. An even more expensive line! This time for sure guys!
>>507284738>XV-kun wins againHe just keeps getting away with it.
>>507289951see >>507287851dont care about your copeshin looks better than kainever bought any statis arts so don't care about thatonly ff16 bring arts look like shit
>>507290665Enjoy being nickel and dimed.I'll go pick up better quality products at half the price.
>xvi-kun frothing because noctis gets to be the 2nd in SEs deluxe new fig line while clive was the worst brings arts SE ever made
>>507291094I didn't buy any shitty tifa pak fig so keep coping
>>507291237Neither did I, I'm not a retard who falls for promotional images.I wait for user uploaded images/Youtube uploads.
>>507283431Actually, three entirely different people said this
>mfw people are gassing up SE's merch line in 2024
>>507288702FF7 merchandise is sold out everywhere on my local sites too. It really shows the difference in popularity. I don’t know how well XV merch sold, but it probably did better than XVI since some people still have nostalgia for the Versus13 hype.
>>507292202SE stock value must be protected at all cost (unless it's XV related)
>>507284738>Red eyes NoctisNobody knows what his red glowing eye was originally supposed to mean in the trailer. In the game he only has a glowing eyes when he uses summon, and it’s not even red. Seems like another Versusxiii nostalgia-bait.
>>507288773She ded
>>507284738If this figure doesn’t come with all 13 Royal Arms included then it’s fucking worthless
>>507288773She's dead, but she'll still have lots of scenes and dialogue and help out during battles
>Going through 1>Get througg Gulg>Realize I have enough Gil to buy a 99 stack of Hi Potions>Go through Ice Cavern>Use half of themWhat the FUCK is this gameHalf tempted to go back to Gulg and farm a bit
You still support Square Enix despite lackluster games, aren't you?You still hope that they will do better for the next release.
>>507297548>despite lackluster gamesthey still put out good games like rebirth, NEO and octopath.They just put out stinkers like Babylon, CRGX, and XVI.
>>507295974The royal arms are Tabata coded through and through
>>507300091they were there since nomura was in charge tho...
>>507300289They were added in like 2015 or 2016? They weren't in the game when Episode Duscae came out, nor when they did that crappy anime short thing
>>507301054>They were added in like 2015 or 2016They only changed designs. Nomura wanted noctis to have to collect 13 since the start and he originally had stuff like a guitar in there.
>>507301505>They only changed designsI'm very much aware of the design destroyer, almost all weapons in the game were altered before release
>>507302958>weapons are engine themed>tie into the car, since that's such a big part of the game>Tabata: what if we...ruin that?thanks tabata...
Timeskip Noctis > Timeskip Clive
Yuffie is the best and cutest.
>We never get to see timeskip milf Cindy because..........S-She’s just busy, okay?!?!?Fuck you Tabata
>>507306287Blame japan for being terrified of showing female characters aging. How long has Sakura been a schoolgirl while the guys in Street Fighter all grow long beards and become elders
Final Fantasy series survey just went uphttps://x.com/FinalFantasy/status/1871194304775061781?t=tDghLAn5BjGEGp_zDJwLJQ&s=19make sure you tell them xvi is shit
>>507291659You're the one going on about shit i never said but keep coping
>>507307330Filling this out to tell them everything they do is faultless and to ignore anyone giving negative feedback
>>507292598let me put it this waywhen SE announced FFXVs ultimate collectors edition it sold out instantly and they had to do a 2nd round of preorders because people missed out on the first, which then sold out instantly again When XVI ultimate collectors edition went live you could readily buy it months laterEven the FFXV DOTF novel sold out on Amazon when it launched in both Japanese and later English, it took a while until they restocked it
>>507307805We need as many people as possible to do this
UMMMM Excuse me, where is OO?Its in the Op right now and I'm led to believe that it is very important. It should be available as an option since you can play it right??!!!
>>507292202>>507293636That's again play arts kai, which I never said was goodI specifically fucking said play arts shin looks better than play arts kaiSee>>507287851>>507293739His eyes turn red when you summon, and yes the eye texture is redNomura said he wasn't sure if he was even going to keep the red eyes and at one point had it so they turned red whenever you teleport, that was partly why the 2011 versus hud had the faces on the hud so you could see when his eyes turn red on the hud whenever he'd teleportbut they never implement thatin 2013 he said he's not sure if he will even keep the red eyes thingin the 2006 versus trailer his eyes are red the whole time then just glow at the endit wasn't until we saw the party scene of noctis in the suit in 2008 that we saw him with blue eyes which is supposed to be his defaultHe has red eyes the entire final CG cutscene when he's king on the throne summoning the lucii too
>>507295974They'll sell them as extra pieces if anything >>507300091And? They already made Sword of the Father>>507301054He doesnt get any royal arms in Ep D or have any during the anime yet, are you dumb? Regis and ardyn can use armiger without royal arms tooin epD he just uses armiger abilities and the weapons he finds are named after knights of the round>>507302958original force stealer is still in the data as a different LOD and was restored as a mod>>507303065the engine weapons absorb elemental energy it has nothing to do with carsRegis in 2011 used engine blade but nomura changed his weapon to some completely different sword in 2013in kingsglaive regis never uses sword of the father with his armiger, he only uses ot when he uses it individually like in the tenebrae flashback against glauca
>>507304000true and repeating numbers of truth
>>507287706>>507287851>Promotional imagesTidus looked good in the promotional images and oh and will you look at that, here is the final product here >>507292202 for $195 on the Square Enix store. This new Vincent can be pre-ordered for $200. Do you really think this figure, one that comes with all these extra bells and whistles, is going to be a quantum leap ahead in quality? That this new figure line is finally the one that gets things right after 15+ years of mediocrity? No, it's still going to look like shit for the price you're paying and you're a fool if you fall for it.Do yourself a favor and don't waste your money on Square Enix slop. Here's a better idea. Get yourself an inexpensive model kit this Christmas and try your hand at putting one together if you've never tried it. As long as you have a hobby knife on hand, for as little as $15 you can pick up a High Grade and spend an afternoon being productive. By the end you will have something that can sit on your shelf and you'll have the satisfaction of thinking to yourself "yeah, I did that" whenever you lay your eyes on it. Any imperfections will come from your own ability to cleanly remove parts from the runner, not due to SE's shoddy quality control. Even better, rope in a friend or two this holiday season, get them around for an evening and build your own kits together while watching videos and eating pizza. Most fun I've had picking up a new hobby in years.But if you would rather be scammed by Square Enix and experience the hollow feeling of owning an ugly, overpriced Vincent/Noctis on your shelf that you probably spent 15 minutes unboxing/posing before jumping back on 4chan to shitpost, go ahead.
>>507307330Done.
>>507309736>the engine weapons absorb elemental energyOf course that's what they ended up doing. Their designs were objectively changed to tone down the car influence. Just like how they changed the car from a FF batmobile to what it is now.
>>507310228Dw I already told them to ignore anyone malding over xv or tabata and that XVI killed FF and yoshitpiss destroyed the brand
>>507307525>this figure looks good (based on promotional images)"you shouldn't fall for promotional images, SE has been historically awful with their all their merch">STOP GOING ON ABOUT THINGS I NEVER SAIDok.
>>507307330>>507310228My genuine comment, that I realize is immediately controversial here, is that while I appreciate what they were doing in XVI the combat of Remake/Rebirth is much more appropriate for the future of the series.XVI would be so much fucking better if you could switch between party members that had differences in playstyle.
>>507308330I told them to bring it back in the last comment. But at the same time I told them I hate microtransactions.
>>507309998Again never said play arts kai looked good you retardEven then this is the new tidus pak which looks completely different from that scuffed one one that pic
>>507310395No they weren't and they added in even more engine weapons for each typein 2013 we only saw engine broadsword and engine greatsword also that isn't what the car wasthe car was originally this which nomura said wasn't final, and in final xv this is just a general car royal council members drove and which ignis had in the anime that pic was the 8 wheel limo noctis was in in the 2011 trailer and regalia typeF takes on that aesthetic minus the 8 wheels and hidden gattling gun (which was also never revealed or talked about durability versus)the regalia went through multiple desivns including more batmobile looks in 2013 concept art before the final design the TypeF has the silhouette of the 2011 limo
>>507310548>but X is shit so why would Y be goodnot my problem you're retarded
>>507310927I never said you claimed Play Arts Kai looked good you mong.I'm informing you Play Arts Kai is shocking for the price point and this Vincent which isn't priced much higher likely won't be much better given SE's history.Don't judge it on how good the promotional images are, wait until its in peoples hands. That's all I'm saying.
>>507311442>also that isn't what the car wasit was.Nomura drew it and you can see concept art in the Re:plai book from late 2008.Don't fill in the blanks with your own headcanon.
>>507311593>hmm the hundreds of products this company has released for the last 15 years have been butt ugly and overpriced, with the latest costing $195>but they've announced a new figure line and this new one costs $200, I'm sure this is the one guys!
>>507311674And my point is that shin looks better than kaistop coping
>>507312125Let him waste his money
>>507311787No it wasn't Nomura didn't draw itthe car was designed by someone elsethe car seen in the 2006 versus trailer is also the car ignis is driving the party in the 2008 cg and was the original car, and nomura said that wasn't final design and would changethe 8wheel version of the car was later DESIGNED by 2008 but never implemented into any cg until 2009/2010the regalia went through redesigns in 2013 and the final design includes typeF which is based on the 8wheel cars silhouette just minus 8 wheels
>>507312897>the 8wheel version of the car was later DESIGNED by 2008 but never implemented into any cg until 2009/2010You just came around to agree with what I said.
>>507312125>this completely different product will be the same as this other thing because???? it just will????cope more that clive bring arts is mogged by noctis play arts shin
>>507312245Enjoy making judgements on promotional images I guess.I think I'll look forward to the release where this $200+ Noctis looks worse than $40 pop-up parade.
I love Yuna.And Lulu.And RikkuAnd Paine.
>>507313021>company releases nothing but shit products for a decade and a half>ah but new product at nearly the same price point, now this will be good...
>Christmas Eve>I'm sitting around trying to figure out how I want to draw Clive's hair in the middle of the nightJoshua was a lot easier than this.
>>507312979Are you blind? The 8wheel car still wasn't the original carThis was
>>507313041xv mogged xvi even just from xvi promotional material>pop up parade which uses anime styled designs, not the semi realistic style ff usesretard
>>507310228Based.
>>507313952xv was ludokino despite xiv and xiii cope
>>507310228>killed all my interest in the seriesThen why are you still here?
>>507314176
>>507314367To make you as miserable as I am.
>>507310892>XVI would be so much fucking better if... it were RedditbirthNo.
>>507313979>The 8wheel car still wasn't the original carI never said that it was.
>>507314332definitely a fair comparison from a sane individual
>>507315061XVI must be worse than XV then.
>>507315290lol noeven Tabata prefers XVI
>>507315498>lol noYou posted a sales comparison pic. So XV's 10m > XVI's 3m, which means XV is better than XVI.just following XVI-chan logic here.
>>507315970holy based
>>507315147I said >also that isn't what the car wasyou said>it wasretardthe 8wheeler isn't the original car it was a redesign replacing the original car noctis was being driven in heeeand this design only came back as seen in the xv anime driven by ignis and royal circle motorcade, in kingsglaive can be seen around the citadel and is also cors car in the game seen in the intro at the citadel as it became the car royal circle member drove
>>507316641>it wasCorrect. Because it was.>>507310395>>507311787>the 8wheeler isn't the original car it wasI never said it was.
>>507315498>image from 2 months before ff16 even released before people had even played the game And no he doesn't Tabata being humble to praise other SE staff is him being humbleyoshitpiss meanwhile is a snake
>>507309736>He doesnt get any royal arms in Ep D or have any during the anime yet, are you dumb?The royal arms were not a thing at that point, which is why armiger didn't use them it's that simple>original force stealer is still in the data as a different LOD and was restored as a modIt's smaller, we've been over this beforeYou can see the slash effect extend to where two handed swords usually extend toBarry, log off 4chan and enjoy your Christmas
>>507316834Takes one to know one, snake.You could aspire to be as humble as your role model.
>>507316737No it wasn't the original car you backpedalling fucktard, it was a redesign, the original car is this you even tried to claim it was the og car by clinging to concept art from 2008 at the earliest when this is what the car actually was in 2006-2008 TRAILERS
>>507316908Except they were and datamines prove it, they just used different names before it was finalised And no its the same size as the og because it is the og retained as a lower LODthe slash effects are tied to the final size which increased length, not to lods which were shorter
>>507317287>No it wasn't the original car you backpedalling fucktard>you even tried to claim it was the og carI never once said it was the original.>it was a redesignYes. That means it was the design before the final one. You melted down to just come to agree with what I said.
I'm glad XVI lives rent-free in barry-kun's mind tbqh desu
>>507317160yoshitpiss is the pr conman here, sorry.
>>507317752
>>507317652Funny how you keep showing tabata is humble while yoshitpiss remains a lying snake. Also nice google translate retard, too bad the actual sentence he said isn't that.XVI-kun you'll never live down the fact that XV beat XVI in sales, fan reception, awards and cultural impact.
My TURN to be BASED.
>>507318135Finally, a good reply!I was getting Battle of Mid flashbacks with all this fight over actionslop.
>>507317897>Tabata's company has Mistwalker as a main client Tabata's working with Sakaguchi Meanwhile yoshitpiss just made Fantasian flop
>>507318135Link to the survey?
>>507318323XV is at the top alongside 7 and 10 and 8XVI is at the bottom with 2 and 3 and spinoffs
>>507318392https://x.com/FinalFantasy/status/1871194304775061781?t=tDghLAn5BjGEGp_zDJwLJQ&s=19
>>507318574on opposite day
>>507318574lmao
>>507318615>>507318653FF7 14.4mFF10 14mFF15 10mFF8 9.6mFF3 3.2mFF16 3mFF2 2.8mLRFF13 1.4mbarry was right again
>>507317652ffxvifag here>level of the sandboxLMAO WHAT?
>>507318942>salesyeah sure and Resident Evil 6 is better than the original Resident Evil 2
>>507313969We have artists on /ffg/?
FF will return to high fantasy kino.Nomura will "resign" like Tabata and his style of KH influenced FF will finally die.tranny XIII will never be remastered because it's a stain on the series.Sakaguchi will resume full control and usher in a 1000 year high fantasy Final Fantasy reich.
>>507319156meant for >>507315498
>>507287851Bottom looks like a bottom.
>5 ff7 threadsoh nonono Barry going to have a sleepless night
>>507314606You'll never succeed. I was depressed as a tween and learned back then that at least to some degree I'm in control of how I view the world and my place in it.I'll never be miserable like you.
>>507322501I lied. I post here for free (You)s. Thanks.
>>507322501Personally I've never been depressed, because I'm a Chad.
>posts flopvi >chadNo
>>507322501Feminine behavior. Why are you fat and ugly?
>>507322856>>507323159I didn't post anything about flopbirth though?
>Yoshitpiss>TabatardCan’t we all agree that neither has damaged the franchise as much as Nomura?
>>507325572I can agree with this.
>>507325572what did he do
>>507325572Everything good about FF is thanks to NomuraEverything bad about FF was the fault of someone else
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>>507267210Don’t. It’s fart porn, anon :(
