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Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E [Open]

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailer
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>506934457
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XVI still isn't a good game nor did it save anything.
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January
>it will be goty
February
>it will be goty
March
>it is goty
April
>goty ez
May
>goty in the bag
June
>goty no competition
July
>they should play this song during goty speech
August
>goty barry will kill himself
September
>livestream your suicide when it wins goty
October
>persona reskin can't win rebirth goty
November
>metacritic score doesn't matter rebirth sweep
December
>lose goty
>lose best rpg
>lose best narrative
>lose game direction
>lose audio design
>lose best performance
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>>507326034
rent-free
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Not a single real person replied to this thread
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>>507325928
Merry Christmas from Jill and Torgal
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do you guys really just spend all day arguing over rebirth and xvi
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>>507326034
BASED
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>>507326862
I have to admit it's pretty funny that 7r fans set all these parameters of success in order to dunk on XVI and then rebirth failed to reach those parameters. So before their shitposting was smug and obnoxious. But now it's bitter and obnoxious.
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>>507325928
I’m not gonna ask why BE is still in the OP, but I am gonna ask why the link is still a pastebin and not a link to the YouTube channel like OO.
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>>507326714
Is he that big in the game?
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>>507327567
he's a big boy
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>>507326862
No one really cares about XVI. It's a made up fight
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>>507327567
He’s big enough to satisfy Jill’s needs.
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>>507327958
3 Million+++ people care about the fastest selling PS5 exclusive XVI, actually!
Even more since the Tekken collab and PC release.
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Damn hamaguchi retweeted me
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>>507330753
bros how do we spin this to make it look bad?
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>>507330753
>>507331242
>hamaguchi is an avid twitter tranny
not surprised desu
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there it is!
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Why does everyone keep refunding Rebirth?
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>>507332790
>bought and refunded the same day for a game that doesn't come out for another month
I'm sure this wasn't for att-
>that name
lol
lmao even.
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>>507332790
Kek idec if that's fake or not I'm going to pretend it is to make the resident archive schizo lose his mind.
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Horrible thread
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>>507332790
>file.png
Hmm!
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>XIII's Blinded by Light is just a rip off of XI's Fighters of the Crystal
Is Masashi Hamauzu a hack?
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>>507334695
always has been imo
his Rebirth stuff is pretty muddy too
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>>507332790
>You're too chicken shit to even confront me on Twitter so it doesn't matter if you know it's me.
Kek based
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jimboree time
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how do they always figure out that it's me?
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>>507325928
Is this real?
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One true love and kissu chu! Canon and cute!
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>>507341075
No. XVI sucks. Many call it 'mid'
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>>507341760
I believe you.
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but why are final fantasy youtubers so bad? why don't we have someone like marsh (smt related games)? i swear most fftubers sound so fucking fruity
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>>507341075
>mfw it's real
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Post FF16 wins. I'm doing a school project and need some pics.
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>>507341075
FFXVI swept at the TGA (Tabata Game Awards) 2023
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>>507344678
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>>507344678
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>>507344678
>school project
You sure you're not just farming pics to shitpost with, Jimbo? >>>/v/698167051
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>>507344678
>>507345092
The 39/40 FFXVI just can't stop winning, it seems.
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>>507345092
Meds.
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>>507344678
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You couldn't even wait 20 minutes >>>/v/507345319
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>>>/v/698167795
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>>507345820
That's not me.
>>507346029
Nice false flag retard.
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>>507344678
I'll just leave this here.
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>>507344678
>>507345092
>>507346140
This is my favorite kind of schizophrenia.
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Aerisu!
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>>507346241
Is FFXVI the best medieval action RPG?
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I wonder if FFXVI was a purely cinematic sony game on the vein of asura's wrath, would people have liked it more?
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>>507351357
yeah
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>>507351454
yes
it being a mainline FF is the only controversial thing about it
if it was a spinoff FF or other Sony title there'd be 100x less whining
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>>507351764
i think the open world fucking sucks. rpg elements fucking suck (except for AP, i mean that's still kinda neat and I get a sense of progression)
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>>507351917
but just saying if they just made FFXVI more in the vein of a traditional action game. aka level select and scoring with a hub world. it would've been a much better package imo.
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Why did she do it?
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im at the part where you have to help the 3 towns again after beating bahamut.
how long do i have left till i finish the game (doing all side quests and hunts)

jfc this is reminding me of the mines section in shb. i actually didn't mind the mines. the bunny area though was so fucking bad.
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My beautiful wife Aerith
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Should I play XV or XVI?
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>>507357275
Both, really. Play all FF.
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>>507357275
FF15, the best FF.
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also how do i build clive so im not just saving abilities for after I stagger? I'm using
Garuda - Lightning Rod/Will o Wykes
Bahamut - Raging Strike/Gigaflare
Ifrit - Rising Flame/Pile Drive

If I do my combo outside of stagger, it completely eradicates the stagger but leaves me no CD to do damage after stagger, if i hold it - it takes such a long time to finish the stagger meter
combo being Will o Wykes -> LB -> Lightning Rod -> Target Lightning with Raging Strike -> Gigaflare -> Rising Flame -> Pile Drive
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Is FF2 Pixel Remaster worth picking up? I know it’s generally regarded as the worst FF but honestly that’s part of the reason I’m interested in it.
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>>507357439
Based FF enjoyer
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>>507358049
did you play ff1? if so, it really isn't that bad. it's a generic rpg yeah but it's also kinda cool you can build your characters your own way based on what they use. hitting yourself is a meme btw. make sure to play the psp version because the epilogue dungeon is mondo cool
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>>507358269
Thanks! Suggestions for character builds? I get the impression you have to plan your dudes out early for them to truly be effective come endgame.
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>>507359109
shrug does it matter? unga bunga don't look up guides and don't break the game with frog.
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>>507357574
Better than XVI that's for sure
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Aerith but with Tifa's tits.
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>>507359649
>>507359109
and also not really, there's some optimal stuff but like ff2 is a game that you can easily break and don't break it that's no fun. just focus your mans on one thing instead of branching out too much that's the only tip you need
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>>507359737
Kek, not true in the slightest and I don’t particularly like XVI
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>fill out the recent FF survey
>write a 6000 character comment at the end of the survey with my heart felt feelings
>get an error because, I assume, the comment was too long
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>>507326172
FPBP
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>507340467
>507340731
...Final Fantasy?
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>>507360194
>6000 character comment
...it was a positive comment, right?
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>>507359759
What about it
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>>507360643
God damn, this game is ugly.
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>>507358260
How many GOTY wins?
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>>507360643
Yea, you're right. Why would they want to hear negative feedback?
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>>507361428
Wait for can_opening_pepe return and you will see
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Final Fantasy is a mediocre franchise.
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>>507362348
It's bigger than zelda franchise
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SEX with Penelo, yes or no?
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>>507363778
She's underage, you sick fuck.
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I can't find FFXVI in the steam top sellers for 2024. Did they forget it released or something?

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/bestof2024
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>>507364571
Laws don’t apply to sky pirates
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>>507365156
Here bro
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My Angel.
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>>507365156
Because XVI is a flop lol
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>>507365156
Anon...
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>>507365156
It's right there wdym
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>>507365156
>>507365541
People got confused by Tekken's cover and accidentally bought the wrong game.
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Are there any FF’s without a sequel you’d like to see get one?
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>>507367458
SoP
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>>507367458
A sequel to the 10/10 FFXVI would be nice.
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>>507366106
>outsold by a 4 year old port of a collection of decades old games
that is the grimmest sign CBU3 could have.
People aren't tired of nomura games, they just aren't interested in cbu3 games.
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>>507368689
Do KH fans like Nomura?
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>>507368992
Mostly. besides the terminally online who thinks he hates women.
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>>507367458
5.

NO THE OVA DOESNT COUNT. FUCK YOU HAD 3 CHOICES AND THE OVA MAKES A COMPLETELY ASS CHOICE THAT WASNT PART OF THE CHOICES. TRASH
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>>507368470
Already exist.
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>>507368689
KH games are true FF games and always will be
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FF1 is a KH game.
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>>507367458
SoP and WoFF. Sadly neither sold good enough for it...
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>>507361428
GOTY status?
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>>507369880
SoP 2 is in the works
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>>507370631
Yeah, in Nomura's timeline
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>>507370631
i want to believe in emperor david bowie's wild ride.
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>>507369356
Isn’t that down to poor localization?
I’ve seen people say in Japanese it’s heavily implied all the characters are distant cousins, thus all descendants of Butz.
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>>507371176
you best not be lying to me
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>>507370396
Robbed.
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xiv should've been a modern FF instead
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>>507370631
>SoP 2 is in the works
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>>507372356
jack is popular
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>>507372545
well, there you have it. SoP 2 soon, Jackbros!
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>>507372356
>>507372545
>barely 1M copies of SoP sold
>popular
Afraid not.
SoP is never getting a sequel, and that's a good thing.
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>>507369429
Based.
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Jack is literally me
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>>507373046
Never say never. I want to believe.
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>>507373735
Jack wouldn't post on here
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>>507372356
Don't trust Nomura's lies
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>>507352382
>your bitch ass bastard son comes back
>the other son you actually liked who everyone thought had died cones back
>both, that is, after leveling the capital of the empire you married into alongside your stepson
>the stepson who killed your current husband
>who also kills your son
>the son you spent the past 10 years grooming and trying to install into the throne
The only heir to Sanbreque left at that point was Dion who hated her guts.
Unlike with the Rosfields, she had no backup plans at that point.
She lost literally everything in a single night.
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>>507374584
>>507374675
He's retiring so no chance of that.
Final Fantasy is squarely in Yoshi-P's hands.
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>>507352116
I kinda disagree there.
It's not like the open setting DOESN'T allow that, that's basically just doing the MSQ
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>>507372356
SoP is what XVI should’ve been. It IS XVI as far as I’m concerned.
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>>507368689
>rebirthkek still salty
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>>507376398
Thankfully you are a minority.
Several millions more prefer the fastest selling PS5 exclusive FFXVI.
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So XIV is pretty much a lock for Switch 2
Wonder if gonna be one of the launch era games since it sounds like it might be crowded
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>>507376998
it couldn't even outsell kh ports.
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>>507375256
Final Fantasy is saved!
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Don't forget to take your med, /ffg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANs-8aXwOHs
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>>507379708
this is what i mean when i say dont ditch the combat and iterate from there
but nooooo, the faggots want their turn based back
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>>507379708
Like XV before, it looks cool when you watch.
But if you actually played XVI, you'd realize right away he's doing the same inputs the entire fight.
Attack with the same combo, use ability, use second ability, switch and wait for cooldown, repeat.
It gets really boring to play after a couple hours and why most people say the prologue is the peak of the game. Because that's before you realize the combat isn't deep.
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>>507381072
XV's combat system is actually pretty deep but because the enemies are so poorly designed, nobody really bothers to learn to git gud at it. Most of the time, you’re overwhelmed by swarms of enemies, so it’s hard to focus on just one. It’s usually easier to rely on counters or spam magic grenades instead.

https://youtu.be/JWanPC52rwg?si=JDhXPbuGkyqjbsT4
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>>507365726
Cute tummy
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What FFXVI needed was far better enemy design, more interactivity with the enemies. FFVII remake/rebirth compeltely shat on FFXVI in that department.
You dont break parts of the enemy to stagger them faster. You dont evade attacks to make them fall or something. You dont multiple times parry enemies until they drop their weapon and take 50% more damage or something. You dont turn on some enemies on fire to make them take extra stagger damage.
You cant just add a stagger mechanic without interactivity with the enemy. Thats why rebirth/remake stagger works and FFXVI doesnt.
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>>507379075
>Not the Day One Edition
Zoomer detected
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Genki has been going crazy because Shadow is voiced by Sephiroths actor in the Sonic movie in Japan
His weird pivot from FF into Sonic hasn’t been smooth
He thought Sonic on PS5 would finally help Sony beat Nintendo which didn’t happen
Sonic Movie 3 isn’t getting nation wide screenings meaning numbers will be low
And the few Sonic fans in Japan are pissed they hired Sephiroths actor instead of the game actors
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>>507382382
XVI mogs these two by the way
Much better game in every possible way
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>>507382818
???
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>>507382873
On day one, yes but XV on PC mogs the shit out of XVI in terms of content, map size, playable party members, and graphics. Even XVI's ending feels like a bootleg version of XV's
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>>507381802
There's this "lag" when switching weapons and even using directional inputs (which only work after the first hit for some reason) making XV feel clunky and slow.
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>>507382818
I do not care about Sonic, Genki or voice actor drama that isn't from /jp/.
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>>507383315
Lmao no.
Not at all.
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>XV-kun and his convenient allies try desperately to convince /ffg/ that XV's combat isn't dogshit again
Why?
What is there to gain in persisting in such folly?
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>>507382217
i just find it funny that ffxvi takes so much from ffxiv it's actually hilarious.

ffxvi needs more scenery locations too. you've got forest land and then desert land and that's pretty much it. wish we got some sort of snow land
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Is it a blessing or a curse when Prime 1 makes stuff for FF?
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>>507385828
oh wow i literally just realized the 3 locations in ffxvi are literally the starting areas in ffxiv
like lmao why the fuck did they copy so much from xiv its not funny at this rate
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>wowzers I can't believe Yoshi-P... checks notes... put biomes in his game what a hack!1
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Any Seifer fans around here?
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>>507326034
fipibipi
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>>507344678
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>>507388003
i hate xiv fans
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My wife Eiko is very cute!
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>>507386647
>Cloud and Seph separately add up to $4900
>the combo package is $5000
Do you get something extra with the latter or something?
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>>507389630
My paternal grandfather looked exactly like Seifer when he was in his early 20’s.
I’m tempted to post a picture of him to prove it.
My father looked exactly like Kurt Cobain when he was in his early 20’s.
I’ve had people tell me I look like Kate Micucci (yes, my father married outside of his race) :(
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>>507391105
Yes.
Base Cloud is Buster only.
DX Cloud adds the Crystal Sword and extra arm parts.
Cloud vs. Sephiroth adds the Force Stealer.
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>>507391474
Ah gotcha, thanks anon.
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Monopon wishes you a Merry Christmas
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>visiting big sister for the holidays
>checking out her recent Switch purchases
>all languishing on a shelf, unopened
>ask if I can play a couple
>redeem all her rewards points on my account and use them to purchase FF2
Heh, thanks for the early Christmas present, sis.
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>>507385828
XVI might actually have the most generic, forgettable locations in the entire series. The war-torn land of Ash is probably the only memorable area.
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>>507391201
>my father married outside of his race
We know, Barry.
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XVI doesn't need a sequel, it needs a prequel dedicated to Ultima and the last days of the civilisation he lived in. In the final battle between Clive and Ultima, the game makes it clear that Ultima is quite human in essence, capable of feeling emotions even. So they can write what events and conflicts shaped Ultima's worldview, shaped his quest to achieve his final fantasy (Raise is the final spell, Ultima is a fan of final solutions, so to speak). Maybe Ultima's beliefs were once similar to Clive's, but something shook his faith in the power of human connection and will? Ultima is a character without a properly written premise, and a well-written premise might give more meaning to his motivations and worldview in XVI.

I want to know, what Logos doesn't know.
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>>507397079
no fuck off with prequels already
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>>507398368
Unless it's FF7
we need a lot more of those
anything that expands the lore of 7 is objectively good and goty
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>make a whole video on how nostalgia is le hecking valid and overrated is not an argument because a small part of their audience disagreed with them on 7 being the number 1 best intro in the series.
wewlad
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>>507399775
Actually literally who
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>>507400464
NTA but it's Resonant Arc. They make book club style videos on vidya focusing on the story, symbolism and philosophy.
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I’m really enjoying FF2 so far.
The growth system is amazing and I can’t believe people shat on it for so many years.
Yet more evidence that the vast majority of boomers are in fact whiny, stupid faggots.
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>>507400883
I think it's more people parroting "game bad" than people actually trying it and hating it.
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Most issues I've seen brought up about XVI all legitimately seem fixable without a foundational overhaul of every system or something. I would love to see a game take the feedback it got and just improve on those flaws and not just scrap everything. Exploration, moveset diversity, gearing all literally were solved by other games some even using similar combat design and philosophy to XVI. The hardest fix would be working party members actively into the moveset but it's not impossible either.
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>>507397079
XVI was honestly the best game I've ever played.
I do hope they make an XVI-2 in the same vein as XIII-2 to address a few of those things that people wanted expanded upon however.
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>FF8 hated on for years
>"plot sucks, it's messy and makes zero sense"
>"characters are boring, romance is unbelievable"
>"junctioning sucks too and drawing is tedious af"
>played it 15 years ago, agreed with everyone
>years later
>bunch of video essays pop out the woodworks and the game is critically re-assessed
>everyone blames Spoony + unrealistic expectations after VII for why everyone thought it sucked
>now a bunch of veterans whose opinions I genuinely trust say VIII is their favorite
>played it again with a few mods for a fresh take
>game still sucks and all complaints still hold up
>replay VII
>still an objectively better game
I don't fucking get it, what do people see in this game?
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VII should get it's own general
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>>507401545
I dropped XVI after about 5 hours in, but I’d be willing to give it a second chance if we got a Zodiac Job System like update. I don’t really see that happening though.
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>>507402490
Kek, I played it for the first time 2 years ago and all I remember is how great the card game was.
I don’t recall thinking the game was awful however, just a bog standard jrpg.
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>>507399775
Nostalgia is an aberration of perception, but argumentum ad nostalgia in art discussion is just a "no u", a variation of ad hominem.
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>>507399775
>says calling the remakes/spinoffs of 7 cashgrabs is somehow invaliding people's attachment to 7 as a whole
>refuse to review or even talk about the remake trilogy because they hate it and disagree with it's direction
Huh?
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i don't even know what i want to buy when something is on sale. hell i don't think i even updated my eshop points in a month since i haven't spent it.
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>>507404818
The pixel remasters are 25% off right now.
Just keep in mind they have absolutely no bonus gameplay content.
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>>507325928
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
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>>507405853
They did, it was called Final Fantasy XII
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Where's my game about Lightning?
Where is it?
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>>507406178
XIII,XIII-2,XIII-3, Dissidia Duodecim, MGR
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>>507327348
7r is for low iq people and women

all snes and ps1 ff games are superior to any and all slop squarenix has ever shat out, maybe tactics and 10

i hate what ff has turned into
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>>507406442
I want more. Where's my Lightning?
MORE LIGHTNING OR RIOT!
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>>507402490
having potential card combinations to break the game at the start rewarding olayers who engage with a seperate systwm that exists outside of combat but effects it postively, if you are shit at the card game you are going to have to alog it out like any other jrpg but for players who enjoy the magic system, i think squaresoft at this time was trying to experiment to find what works to supplement turnbased combat, i think they nailed it with vagrant story but you never see anything like that anymore.

i wish turnbased combat had supplemental systems that made engaging with the world like the cards more rewarding, and in turn it did do that, unless you fucking hate the cards then you have to eat shit and grind like a retard
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>>507401545
How about doing a more faithful emulation of Devil May Cry? Directional inputs, different combos for all weapons, etc.
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>>507402564
yes we should quarantine your sickness
then we can get done to talking about real FF
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Can we talk about how we hate Metafuck instead?
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Staggerslop garbage is killing the once beloved franchise

RETURN TO ATB KINO TO SAVE IT
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>>507409768
Yeah I agree I wasn't really a fan of staggerslop XIII and 7R/Redditbirth
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XV chads we keep getting new merch in 2024... what's going on...
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>Thank you for taking the time to answer the full survey!
>If you have any comments etc about the FINAL FANTASY series please share below.

I sent them my message.
It was only three words. Three simple words.
But if they understand the deeper meaning of these words, the Final Fantasy series will be saved.
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>>507399775
these guys have the most pseud dogshit takes so it's no surprise they're matsuno dickriders
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Are we still going on about XV's combat being worse than XVI's?
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>>507409768
I told them that there were other games in the series than 7
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>>507410253
Funny how you forgot to mention the one game that did by far the least with its Stagger system.
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>>507408552
>then we can get done to
GMS!
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The fact that SqE doesn't have a proper plushie line yet Touhou merch circles do fucking baffles me.
Get the fuck on it or pay another company to make them.

>>507401967
It's up there for me, especially for recent releases but it's not my favorite.
It's a 9/10 in terms of story and action, but my favs tend to be 10s in one or the other.
Story: DoD1/3, NierR
Action: SMT4A, MH FZZ/3U/GU, NG2/3RE
>>507407929
Modders solved that.
Weapons need quite a bit more work tho
>>507401545
I'd like a XVI-2 focused on Joshua or something.
I actually really enjoyed the contrast between the groups Clive and Joshua cultivated, a lot of it is kept as subtext for the reader to deduce but it'd be nice to see it brought forward or something.
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>>507412742
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>>507412218
Oh right I forgot about SoP
Most people did, it seems
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Merry Chritsmas! /ffg/
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>>507410763
Vergil? My Hero!
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>>507413812
what did cloud get them?
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>>507409768
I told them that XVI is the best one.
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>>507410763
XV combat reminds me of Dissidia, tbqh.
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>>507407929
I think those elements are cool but I think games like Dragon's Dogma (which XVI's combat director was a member of the combat team there so he's not unfamiliar with making the system I'm referencing) would be better. DD is an honest to God RPG in every sense of the word, elemental weaknesses, status afflictions, various buffs and debuffs, even certain weapons have unique effects associated with them like rusted weapons having the ability to inflict paralysis. DD uses a job system, it has the ability to customize a pawn which is in all essence a party member and it has loads of those systems from a gameplay end too not close to as Cuhrayzee as DMC I would say but you can get more intense with it (which they did occasionally DDON and DD2 at times). I would say most of the RPG complaints about XVI combat wise have solutions there and in other action RPGs that have done similar. The other major one for me is exploration, despite having team members from XII they made no attempt to steal the wealth of optional side combat content XII implemented. Things like Kairos and the Sagespire should be in this theoretical sequel from the getgo and in the case of Sagespire it should be one of say 3-4 optional mega dungeons tied to a quest chain or something. Maybe go for more individual superboss esque encounters. Some hunts clearly tried to emulate that feel but they missed the mark a bit imo. Exploration doesn't need to be overly gimmicky but just having cool shit to find is enough I mean look at Elden Ring it's not like the best traversal in video games but the world has cool vistas and stuff to find throughout mandatory and optional. Boom two of the arguably biggest complaints somewhat addressed. Party interaction being another one the devs had said they saw a lot of people take issue with but I consider that a structure issue not a gameplay one necessarily. More party focused side quests ala Rebirth would be my solution to that.
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>THIS GUY is younger than Joshua
Is this a fucking joke? I thought he was as old as Cid and Otto??
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>>507413885
A threesome, Yuffie is there to watch till she gets older
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>>507413934
Look at this shit.
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>>507414509
It's just hold square to win dude
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sometimes i wonder if i should have bought the FF games physically despite them being remasters and lilely to be ported throughout time.
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>>507414637
Try that against Omega and see if you can win.
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FFXVI carrying on the true legacy of Final Fantasy.
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>>507415334
Omega is broken thanks to lazy devs and you can easily just shoot at it once it gets stuck .
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>>507416125
What about XV?
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>>507410343
Would be nice if SE's merch line wasn't crap.
Why can't they outsource to competent companies more often? FF characters have it suffering.
If FFXV had anything special in the immediate pipeline it would be a bit silly to announce this now, unless SE have a history of spoiling things with merch coming out ahead of announcements. Anyone remember if that has happened before?
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>>507425073
>unless SE have a history of spoiling things with merch coming out ahead of announcements.
not really honestly.
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Why does /ffg/ dislike FFXV? The game's alright
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>>507430316
A lot of people are only hard on it in order to drive a schizo crazy/crazier. You don't have to hate a game in order to enjoy winding up an overdefensive fanboy with mental problems.
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>>507430316
FFXV is fine. I'd give it a 7/10.
I think people like to dunk on it in here because it gets a rise out of the 1 fanboy who comes along and spergs out whenever someone dares to diss it.
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>>507430316
objectively broken mechanics that were never addressed. With a story that requires to go through a checklist of side material to understand why things are happening.
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>>507390495
The bestest
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>>507409768
>Staggerslop garbage is killing the once beloved franchise
Stagger is the reason why FFVII rebirth/remake combat is so good.
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>Cid canonically banged underage Benedicta's pussy
>Called it his worst mistake
Don't stick your dick in crazy

>>507430316
I think the aesthetic is pure ass. That's it.
Only good looking thing in it are the irrelevant girls. Not a single cute guy, despite their being a gang of 4
Summons are anything but cool, in fact they look like shit.
XVI pulled most the above shit flawlessly (except the girls, XV girls are hotter) so it's easy to compare
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>>507439458
tifa...
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>>507435840
I could have fixed her...
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>Clive Bested
wtf lmao
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>>507443107
Top 10/10 peak moments of FFXVI
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Just like FFIII
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Here's Joshua, for now at least. Not 100% satisfied with this look...
Sis told me he looks a bit like Lightning. I think it's the eyes.
He's at least way closer than Clive sketch.
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>>507445103
well done
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>>507432968
>With a story that requires to go through a checklist of side material to understand why things are happening.
But is it ok when DRAKENIER does it is the real question.
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>>507404317
He's essentially saying "I may disagree with Remake's direction on a fundamental level for sucking of The 'guch, but don't kink shame. Everyones shit tastes are heckin' valid".
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>>507404317
>>507447981
they don't want to be cancelled by the cult of 7
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>>507446802
You can fully understand DoD1, 3, and Replicant (idk about Automata, I didn't get into it) without a lick of side material because that's all it is, extra shit;
All it tells me is that Kaine's cock is long and veiny, but I still got her whole story from start to finish in the base game.
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>>507447981
>Remake's direction on a fundamental level for sucking of The 'guch
what the fuck does this even mean
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>>507448398
I don't know, but one thing is for sure: these guys aren't being sufficiently positive about the remake trilogy. And we're not OK with that.
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Is there any significance to him using "Margrace" as his pseudonym?
I get it's supposed to be a FF12 reference (Clive gets "Cid"), but I mean to the story/Joshua himself.
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>>507450241
shut the fuck up retard.
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>>507450241
True but I don't like the way you've expressed it.
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>>507450241
You struck a nerve.
>>507450281
Why do you stifle discussion about Final Fantasy?
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>>507450528
>doesn't answer question
>starts strawman trolling
>then samefags
>this is FF discussion
fuck off retard
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Merry Christmas /ffg/!
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>>507448398
He's a Sakaguchifag. The reason he doesn't like Remake is because it's a sequel, which apparently goes against Sakaguchi's philosophy when making FFs.
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>>507450742
>strawman
Explain exactly how you are being misrepresented
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>>507451197
gooch allowed the FFV anime sequel tho
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>>507451230
>ask question what someone is trying to say
>some retard starts chiming in that they have nothing to add but I'm appalled at the idea of someone ever criticizing FF7 in any way
>then samefags to back himself up
I got my answer anyway, because not all anons are retards.
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Is there a greater hypocrisy than people saying they love FFVII but don't like the Remake trilogy? The remakes are standalone games that should be judged on their own merits and not compared but it's just not acceptable to claim one is good but the other is not. Though I can understand and accept someone loving Remake and hating the original.
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>>507451261
Greenlighting an anime spin-off =/= Being a dev on video games
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>>507451551
You accept those retards liking FFVII but not liking remake? Well good for you, but it doesn't sit right with me.
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>>507451557
What set you off this time, jimbo?
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>>507451645
>Greenlighting an anime spin-off =/= Being a dev on video games
So its ok for some spinoffs but not others?
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>>507451645
But that's the best gotcha I've got
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>>507451732
>You accept those retards liking FFVII but not liking remake?
I never once implied this at all. Stop strawmanning faggot.
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>E-celeb has an opinion about FF7
>Grrrrrr that damn e-celeb!
I wonder which shitposter holds this specific view. Could it be...? No, surely not.
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>>507451920
Okay good, you don't accept it. Neither do I.
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>>507451762
see >>507451645
I don't make the rules.
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>namefag theatre on Christmas Eve
Grim
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>>507452223
You just made it up right now though.
You went from
>Sakaguchi doesn't want any FF sequels
to
>Well some sequels are ok
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>>507452047
Why would he be angry about ecelebs being negative about remake? Isn't this a win for him?
Unless his schtick isn't actually about hating remake... but that would mean...
No, surely not.
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>>507451170
Happy Starlight Celebration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io8PHIfU-q8
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>>507452379
You have problems reading.
>which apparently goes against Sakaguchi's philosophy /when making/ FFs.

Sakaguchi's a game dev who works on making vidya, and like you said with the anime example >>507451261 he "allowed" an anime to be created by someone else getting his permission first.
Again: See >>507451645
I don't make the rule.
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>>507453178
>are "allowed" an anime to be created by someone else getting his permission first.
So spinoffs are in fact, ok.
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>>507452715
Idk, why ARE you mad about that? It's X-mas Eve!
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>>507453402
>Idk
Oh, well there we have it. Merry Christmas!
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The only thing that the original flashback did better than the rebirth version is that it didnt have that scene where the villagers werent shooting sephiroth
if sephiroth just parried the shots or tanked them, it would have been 100% better than the original.
as it is, it is just 99%
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>>507453327
For a singular anime he greenlit, yes, but not for games he's specifically worked on. Comprende? Please stop with the semantics autism.
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>>507453602
That was the weakest part of Rebirth what are you talking about?
Press R2 L2 to crawl at Sephiroth while Unrealslop NPCs jank around
lmao
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Just checking to see if VIIRgin anon delivered on his promise yet. He said that he'd gift 15 anons here a copy of either Metaphor or Tranny Age if Rebirth did not with GotY.

Well, Rebirth didn't win GotY, and I am still waiting for my Steam gift copy of either Metaphor or Rebirth.
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>>507453760
>For a singular anime
If he was actually steadfast in his opinion, he wouldn't have greenlit it at all.
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>>507453760
Listen, I'll spell it out for you. They are using "Sakaguchis philosophy" as an excuse to criticize spinoffs - and the remake trilogy. I'm not okay with that. It's imperative that I prove Sakaguchi himself IS okay with sequels and spinoffs. You're not going to win here, because this matters a lot more to me than it does to you. Now take your pathetic attempt to undermine remake and fuck off.
Or keep going. I'll do this for as long as it takes.
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>>507451746
Anything FF7 related activates his autism.
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>>507452252
Sadly artists don't have better things to do.
>>507452715
Jimbo here is still angry at 7re and will get angry at anyone who doesn't agree with him
>>507453914
XVI-chan here is a lifelong member of the yoshicult who defended XVI for a year despite never playing the game himself.
We attract the most pathetic individuals, sadly.
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>>507454551
Okay so he's angry at 7re but even when others are saying bad things about it? Gotcha.
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>>507454473
Your biases don't trump reality. I'm done having this debate with you.
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>>507455005
>Anon fell for a Jimbo strawman
Cmon now.
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>>507454551
>t. salty VIIRgin that can't stand any criticism of Remakeslop
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>>507455495
***XVI-chan admitted he has not played 7rebirth***
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>>507455726
this was already debunked, sweaty
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>>507454551
The anon you're replying to asking why Jimbo would be angry is Jimbo talking about himself in the 3rd person. He's being insecure (again).
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>>507455392
>strawman
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>>507455815
>Debunked
lol
lmao even.
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>>507451557
I agree with this post, especially the last sentence.
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>>507454551
>XVI-chan here is a lifelong member of the yoshicult who defended XVI for a year despite never playing the game himself.
What in the schizo is this shit?
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>>507456479
salty VIIRgin falseflagged and samefagged a post 50 times
pretends it's reality
instead of a fantasy based on one
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>>507456739
many such cases on /ffg/, unfortunately..
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>>507456739
>salty VIIRgin falseflagged and samefagged a post 50 times
I see. Well, I'm still waiting for my free copy of Metaphor. Or I'll take Rebirth, if that's an option. Anon always delivers, right? It's Christmas after all.
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>>507456739
What's his problem anyway? Can he not go a single day without creating weird strawmen like "XVI-chan" and "Jimbo" and trying to convince everyone that the made up scenarios he's imagined are real by endlessly samefagging?
Imagine he just talked about the games instead of fighting through strawmen
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>>507456479
>>507456739
>>507457370
>What in the schizo is this shit?
>endlessly samefagging
Mental illness, I'm afraid...
A common tale of late.
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>>507454551
>"Sadly artists don't have better things to do."
>proceeds to namefag theatre about Jimbo, XVI-chan, and the yoshicult
The irony.
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>>507458324
>it was projection the whole time
Sad, but hardly surprising.
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>>507457370
The good news is that he is spending his Christmas Eve on one of the most niche threads of an already niche board of an already niche anime image forum, stirring up fake drama about named anonymous people who don't actually exist.
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I seem to have made the aforementioned autists upset with this >>507454551 post.
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>>507458714
>autists
But you referred to the ideas that you are seething about as "artists".
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>>507458682
Not even Barry is here to defend XV, but this guy is working the holiday overtime shift just to make sure nobody is saying the wrong opinions about VIIR or XVI.
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>>507458845
oh lol I thought he was singling out our resident artist anon >>507445103 for some reason
autists makes more sense haha
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>>507458845
Don't give yourself that much credit over a spelling error.
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>>507459087
good morning saar
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>>507454551
>will get angry at anyone who doesn't agree with him
When you type something like this, can you feel the hypocrisy and is it tough to push through it? Or do you just not realise it at all and just continue namefagging furiously because you saw a post you don't agree with
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>>507459271
I can see that statement somehow felt like a personal attack towards you.
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>>507459271
Actually, he's angry about a post he DOES agree with >>507454473
He'll call it a strawman but won't say how it differs from his real opinion.
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>>507361194
Looks like she's got something else too...
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>>507459368
What made you start namefagging in the first place?
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>>507459518
An earlier post felt like it was a personal attack towards me.
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who types like this >>507454473

is this how jimbo think his enemies think?
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Damn, the council are back! And as predicted they're all here at the same time
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>>507459568
He's going to be so angry when the posters he's mocking with that post explain how their position isn't like that post describes at all
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>>507459006
>just to make sure nobody is saying the wrong opinions about VIIR or XVI.
I didn't even say anything bad about VIIR though. I actually asked for a copy of Rebirth instead of the previously promised Metaphor, showing that my preference when given the choice would be the next entry in the Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy.
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>>507459767
That's not going to happen. Watch.
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>>507459568
Jimbo, XVI-chan and the whole yoshicult gang are up in arms today. Crying about others on Christmas-eve. While also posting here on Christmas-eve...
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>>507455392
It's not so much a strawman as he, much like Resonance Arc, is also a Sakaguchifag too, and took that initial post explaining it personally.

He's projecting his FF7 purist behavior onto RA, since they both are disappointed with 7R's direction.
The difference is RA seems to have sworn off the 7R trilogy entirely after Remake, while Jimbo keeps hate consooming it, despite saying he hopes the trilogy "ruins" Sqeenix.

If one were steadfast in their beliefs, they wouldn't go against it even the slightest bit.

For example: Staunchly wishing and even decreeing someone were to go homeless, yet donating money to them to pay their bills is hypocritical.
He's no Socrates, but a angry autistic OG purist.
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>>507459790
>I didn't even say anything bad about VIIR though.
Neither did I, but suddenly a bunch of "different" posters have arrived to back each other up over the XVI-kun and Jimbo menace. Not sure what set them off exactly.
I'd also like a PC copy of Rebirth if that anon hasn't handed out all 15 copies yet.
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>>507459947
Wow, you are working very hard to make sense of this narrative.
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Normal post
>im against *argument* because *argument 2*

Jimbo post
>im really not ok with *argument*. Im terrifies me. Watch me defend it. Im not explaining what am i gonna do. Watch me. I win, you lose. It matters a lot to me.
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>>507459947
>RA seems to have sworn off the 7R trilogy entirely after Remake
That doesn't sit right with us. I'm glad we're not letting them away with it.
>Jimbo keeps hate consooming it
What negative things has he said about Rebirth?
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>>507460440
>What negative things has he said about Rebirth?
I cannot provide a single example, sorry.
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>>507460334
As a christmas present I'll answer any question you have for me with 100% honesty. And then you can ignore what I say and replace my answer with your strawman headcanon. But I promise to be honest, so go ahead.
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get him boys, you can ask him a question now
dont worry, if you dont he will ask himself
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>>507461045
Is Santa real?
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>>507461045
What circumstances in your life led you down this dark path?
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>>507461397
I hope you have a nice christmas even if you're choosing to spend it angry and upset about nothing
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>>507461440
No, sadly.
>>507461540
I discovered there are people in the FF fanbase with insecurities the likes of which I'd never seen before and have been getting free and easy laughs ever since. It also helps that I have a knowledge of the series, because I'm also a fan.
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>>507460498
I thought you were joking but even though there are lots of jimbo experts here right now nobody provided any
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>>507461893
>It also helps that I have a knowledge of the series, because I'm also a fan.
Based FF enjoyer.
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>I discovered there are people in the FF fanbase with insecurities the likes of which I'd never seen before
You not withstanding of course. :^)
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>>507462289
Thanks :)
I say it often, but you don't have to hate XV to enjoy making fun of Barry.
I hope you are having a cosy holiday time anon. X was a great game too.
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>>507462409
I can tell you what I think you're insecure about. You can't tell me what you think I'm insecure about. You can only repeat it as often as you can and hope nobody notices its projection that you can't back up. You're not even going to try prove me wrong, in fact you're going to prove me right.
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>>507462558
>I hope you are having a cosy holiday time anon.
Thanks, I am, and I will be more cozy later. I hope you're having a nice and cozy holiday as well!

>X was a great game too.
I agree. I liked X a lot, but I actually liked X-2 even more. I had avoided it when it came out because eww girls, but I was very pleasantly surprised by how much I liked X-2 after writing it off completely as a kid.
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>>507462896
X-2 is a great game, definitely one of the most fun FFs to actually play. It's a shame how many people won't give it a fair chance because they're too precious about the original X story. These games are primarily about fun after all, I don't think anyone should look at FF too seriously. It's true that X-2s story is unlikely to stay with you or move you like Xs does, but does it have to? It's enough to be a fun game.
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>>507463287
>It's true that X-2s story is unlikely to stay with you or move you like Xs does, but does it have to? It's enough to be a fun game.
True.
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>>507462767
>You can only repeat it as often as you can and hope nobody notices its projection that you can't back up.
Doesn't really matter what you're insecure 'about', just that it's pretty evident by your behavior in here and elsewhere that you're just insecure in general. Sucks to suck.
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you niggas are really pathetic huh?
doing falseflag on xmas?
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>>507463765
Hey look at that, you proved me right!
>and elsewhere
lmao
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How tight is Garnet's asshole?
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I’m not convinced Barry exists :I
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My Bravely Default playthrough is going pretty well.
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>lists of the top games this year by Japan
>Rebirth barely made the list
>people mad Metaphor topped higher
>they can’t fathom the fact Japan likes RPGs and that Rebirth and XVI are barely considered RPGs by genre fans
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>>507474312
The fuck is that
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Sakaguchi & Tabata = Ludo Kino
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Another Christmas without Tifa...
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>>507474312
What am I looking at here.
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>>507474312
you just know he died a little when there wasn't Tifa for Tekken
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>>507476849
Merry Christmas, anon.
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>>507476958
A man hope and dream fading away right in front of his eyes.
a thousand "fuck you" were his last words
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>>507476958
Ourguy. And you will show him respect.
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>>507477876
Merry Christmas, bro
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>>507474312
To think this didn't boost XVI sales at all.
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>>507467080
Bravely Default is the quintessential Final Fantasy.
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Maria (FF2) is cute and she deserves more porn.
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>>507479204
FFII is underrated.
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>>507478392
All they needed to do to boost XVI's sales was make it a good game but that's impossible because it's already trash.
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So is it just impossible for FF to be big in Japan
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>>507481454
Didn't stop them from trying with XV
Sadly they failed
Thankfully the fastest selling 10/10 FFXVI was an excellent game from day one.
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>>507484196
>b-but what about that other game
lol
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In the end, Barry won.
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not really
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>>507484196
>Sadly they failed
>Thankfully the fastest selling 10/10 FFXVI
Sold 3/10 of what XVI sold lmao
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>>507430316
we all love xv here
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not really
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>>507425073
ff9 merch happened recently which limed up with ff9 remake but that is being delayed heavily now so their timing was fucked
ff7r gets merch because its promo for 7r
twewy got merch to promote neo twewy
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Final Fantasy XV is a good game.
Final Fantasy VIII is a good game.
Final Fantasy XIII is a good game.
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>>507485949
>>507487390
Based and real. Someone's crying right now.
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>>507487342
>Sold 3/10 of what XVI sold lmao
Indeed, I did hear that about Rebirth
Very sad.
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>>507416125
>l-look a nameless npc did the pose from an actual ff that means 16 is ff!?

even kh2 is more of a final Fantasy than ff16

>>507474312
nobody likes clive
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>>507487710
the cope trifecta
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>>507487342
bro she can't stop deflecting
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>>507430316
I loved Final Fantasy XV
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>>507488009
very few such cases, I'm afraid..
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>>507487996
I know. XVI just can't stand on its own.
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>>507487973
You mean the three most unique and overhated FF's
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>>507487710
>>507488170
not hated enough imo
hard to even call them FF tbqh
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>>507484196
XV sold 3x as much as XVI and noctis was the most downloaded t7 dlc

meanwhile ff16 flopped and according to steam ff16 has only gained 700 new players since he was added to tekken 8

xv had already sold 2x what 16 did back when noctis was added to tekken

also xv had sold about 7.2m when he was added while t7 was at around 3m sold
noctis literally boosted tekken 7 sales which went on to hit 10m sold in 2022 like xv did

meanwhile tekken 8 has sold more than ff16 when clive was put in t8
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>>507488287
>Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality.
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>>507486895
the 18th month plan is over
it ended 2 days ago

ff16 still hasn't even actually sold through 3 million to consumers
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>>507484196
you triggered the cultist Army of One
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>Noctis moves a million copies of Tekken 7
>Clive moves 700 copies of Tekken 8
Very interesting
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>>507488123
>>507488529
lole
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It's Christmas
the /ffg/ family needs to stop fighting and come together
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>>507487710
I want more XIII writeups.
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>>507489135
I don't.
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>>507489230
>I don't wanna discuss Final Fantasy
We know.
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>>507489135
I know right? It could be fun to make a new one for Christmas. Stay tuned.
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>>507485234
Give 16fags a little credit, anon. They've achieved a milestone recently with the PC port.
The player count for beating the game rose by 7%!

To recap:
>1 month after release
>27.5k Steam player peak
>16% Beat the game (4.4k vs 23.1k)

>2 months later
>24% Beat the game (6.6k vs 20.9k)
That's a 2.2k player increase for beating the game!

Suspiciously, the percentage for the achievement for beating the intro DECREASED from 88% to 87% within those 2 months.

I'm no mathematician, but that would mean 16's port made an estimate of around 275 additional players/sales in 3 months time, so technically the player count's now at 27.8k! "Big" win for FF16!
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>>507489427
Well I definitely do. Claire and her game are always worthy of discussion
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>>507489601
>no source
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>>507487710
VIII has all the components of a good game and could be made good with a few minor tweaks
XIII has a fantastic battle system and the game becomes good once you leave Cocoon
XV is beyond saving
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Weird how XIII posting always seem to coincide with all the XVI shitposting
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>>507491075
Indeed, as if the forces of light(ning) rise up every time to fight back against the forces of evil.
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>>507488529
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>>507489601
Oof... even 5ch is shitting on ff16 on steam
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Best girl in every mainline Final Fantasy

1. Matoya (I’m sorry, but White Mage is a dude)
2. Leila
3. Refia (she’s canon, chud)
4. Rydia
5. Faris
6. Celes
7. Elena
8. Selphie
9. Freya
10. Lulu
11. (You)
12. Fran
13. Lightning
14. Meteion
15. Cindy
16. Jill
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>>507490092
achievement data is public on the steam page

>>507490574
xiii never gets good
xv is the best ff
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>>507491341
Based and true. I only enjoyed XIII as much as I did because I knew how disappointing XVI is.
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Personally, I can only enjoy things while shitting on other things
Like, what's the point in consooming at all if you can't bully others?
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>>507491875
>Best girl
>11. (You)
Anon-kun, I...*blushes*
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>>507491875
Semi-based
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>>507487596
>ff7r gets merch because its promo for 7r
FF7 merch never experienced a prolonged dry spell where a sudden wave of merch comes out and arouses suspicion of something brand new (like a new Remake) being announced right round the corner
>twewy got merch to promote neo twewy
TWEWY merch didn't spoil an imminent announcement for the new game
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>>507492252
It's almost like enjoying something is influenced by your experiences with other things. Not enjoying something as much as you wanted to is not shitting on it either. FFXVI is a good game. It's just extremely disappointing as a FF game. We have all been over this 100 times now. The way you overly sensitive fags react to XVI criticism is so predictable
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Ardyn "Izunia" Lucis Caelum is the best villain and the gold standard for antagonists in JRPG.
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>>507478392
>XVI flopped on PS5
>XVI flopped on PC
>XVI flopped in Tekken
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>>507490078
>>507489519
>>507491341
>>507487710
Claireposter, did you ask SE to make Final Fantasy XIII Remake? You have the opportunity right now, see >>507409768
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>>507494968
FF16 is Final Fantasy's roots and carries on the true legacy of the series.
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>>507496213
You don't have to lie on 4chan, Sakaguchi. It's okay to admit that it's not a good Final Fantasy game.
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>>507490092
Retard.
https://steamdb.info/app/2515020/charts/
https://steamcommunity.com/stats/2515020/achievements
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Prove you have good taste my naming your top 5 favorite Final Fantasy music pieces.
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>>507497779
tifa's theme
dancing mad
to zanarkand
chocobo theme
Somnus
I know, I have a pretty obscure taste in FF classics.
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>>507497779
1. Birth of a God
2. Blinded by Light
3. Don't Be Afraid
4. Sixteen Bells
5. Stand Your Ground
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>>507497779
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>>507500813
Nice
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Opening Bombing Mission
Crossing Those Hills
Terra's Theme
Prelude
Main Theme of Final Fantasy 7
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>>507497779
1. J-E-N-O-V-A
2. Battle on Big Bridge
3. Aerith theme
4.FIEND battle (boss battle 2)
5. A fight with Seymour
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>>507410343
Why has there been so much new FFXV stuff lately?
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>>507504487
I don't think there really has.
I remember the aussie hyping up a music stream and absolutely nothing came from that. Just wishful thinking lol.
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SE isn’t gonna have a game out at launch for Switch 2 just to avoid releasing anything too close to Mario Kart
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Best Final Fantasy waifu?
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>>507505121
Priscilla
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>>507505121
lunie
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>>507505121
Rydia
Claire
Vanille
Eiko
Yuffie
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Best Final Fantasy game?
XV Windows Edition
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>>507505485
Iggy best boy.
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I should replay 15 one of these days
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>>507489601
What happens if rebirth is higher/lower than XVI?
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>>507446802
If there was some very crucial info in there, no its not ok.
If it just described what emil liked on his pancakes, how much a dragon weighs or how long kaine's feminine penis was, than I really don't care.
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>>507504487
Someone at Square was really embarrassed when they noticed Noctis was losing to Bulborb and had to even the odds a bit.
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Happy Christmas Eve /ffg/
Do board games count as turn-based?
Wife got me this one and we're about to crack it open.
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>>507505121
honestly? Tifa
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>>507508332
what the fuck is a bulborb
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Rate.
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>>507492252
>I can only enjoy things while shitting
Why aren’t you spending Christmas with your family, Vince?
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>>507513513
>vanille
>F
Opinion discarded
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>>507513513
Incredibly Based
>>507514182
no hate but Vanille may objectively be the ugliest FF girl
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>>507514182
>aussie
>acts like a retard
>CIAO XDD
>stupid ass staff that shoots wires that connect to monsters or some shit???
>acts like Sazh is going to sexually assault or something for some reason (because he's black???)
She's awful anon.
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>Vanille slander
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>>507514470
>aussie
Good.
>acts like a retard
Yes, acts. She literally acts, pretends to be.
>CIAO XDD
Cute and energetic.
>staff that shoots wires that connect to monsters or some shit???
Yes, very cool, unique and inventive weapon.
>acts like Sazh is going to sexually assault
Nice projection.

Vanille is the best. Vanillefag said so and I believe him. I also have eyes to notice that she is very pretty.
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Merry Christmas!
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>>507513513
>>507514306
>>507514470
>Vanille truths
/ffg/ based af tonight boys
it's a Christmas miracle
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>>507515148
They're gonna regret this, Vanille anon. I'm calling Square Enix and telling Toriyama everything of their transgressions. They won't escape the consequences.
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>>507513513
cringe
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>>507515312
/ourguys/
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This guy are sick.
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>>507516063
Go on, shoot me!
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>>507515149
>Vanille is the best.
It's true. Statistically one of the strongest characters in FF history, and the strongest character in XIII.
>she is very pretty
Objectively, as a 3D model, she's one of the prettiest characters ever created. She looks better than pretty much any girl that has come after her, that's for sure.
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>>507497779
1. Away
2. That Person's Name Is...
3. Beyond the Heavens/Ascension
4. Snake Eats The Horizon
5. Into Zanarkand

I'm still in the process of listening to Soken's XIV work, but a lot of it gives me the feel of:
>This is like [Song from XVI] but not as good
He's improved quite a lot.
I wanted to experience them in game but the gameplay in XIV sucked so bad I couldn't stand it at all...
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>>507519161
Now say that again without crying
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>>507520565
Based
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>>507519161
They want to crucify you for telling the truth, Vanille chad.
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>>507412218
What if he simply never played it, you defensive cuck?
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>>507413224
>>507524309
True, there's a good chance since not many played SoP lol
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>>507412218
And they still fail to mention the game, anon. Simply amusing.
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>>507497779
Nascent Requiem
Ascension
Overture (VI opera intro)
Dance with the Balamb fish
Valse di Fantastica
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>507525379
>>507524309
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>>507524309
Damn, that post must have made you mad in order for you to respond to it nearly a full day later.
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>>507497779
1. Dancing Mad
2. Battle to the Death
3. Sight of Spira
4. Antipyretic
5. Theme of Final Fantasy
All pretty obscure, I know
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what is the demonym for people who come from Niflheim? I don't think it's ever mentioned in FF15.
Is it Niflir like how Vanir and Aesir relates to Vanaheim + Asgardirl?
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>>507497779
1. Battle on the Bridge
2. Battle at the Big Bridge
3. Battle near a Big Bridge
4. Build the Bridge
5. The Bridge Reaching to the Tower
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>>507326172
unironically FF doesn't deserve thoses, don't misunderstand me, it really doesn't deserve any type of throphie or praise
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Why is Cloud so cool bros
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>>507534797
Tifa makes him cool(er)
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Final Fantasy, but it's a first-person shooter (FPS).
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>>507497779
I love Final Fantasy!

1- Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII
2- Tifa's Theme (FF7)
3- Rose of May (FF9)
4- Melodies of Life (FF9)
5- Searching For Friends (FF6)
Dear Friends (FF5) if I could cheat
>>
I believe in Nintendo.
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>>507537654
Now give us XIII Trilogy
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i finished ff7 and i went to bed and when i woke up i started remake
wtf was with that sephiroth scene? and why is cloud seeing events that havent happened yet? is sephiroth just controlling cloud?
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>>507541818
finish the game nigga
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Clive? The strongest.
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>>507542184
clive jobs to me
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>>507542454
Literally who
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>>507542629
the new paldean champion
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>>507537654
What did Nintendo do?
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>>507520646
Cid ain't prettier than Vanille, gaylord
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Truth
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>>507546320
Make and release good games.
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>>507537654
>XIII Trilogy and XV Royal on Switch 2
Final Fantasy is coming back home
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>>507535707
Could actually be unironically good if it's someone with a vision for a first person RPG. We already know that genre can work. Multiple characters? First person dialogue? If they use a Command menu for real time with pause gameplay and a FEAR style bullet time mechanic it could be seriously fun.
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The One True King.
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>>507551546
Anything Final Fantasy related?
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>>507552414
Not that king
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>>507553017
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Merry Christmas /ffg/
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>>507553438
GBA ports? Hail Nintendo I guess
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>>507553032
Who?
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>>507537654
>Switch cannot run Lightning kino.
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Switch 2 will be more powerful than the PS5 Pro
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>>507520646
>>507548128
Honestly? He is.
Cid's prettier than most FF girls.
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Cid made me gay.
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The only gays in Final Fantasy I can tolerate
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no you are always gay
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post your Final Fantasy gifts /ffg/
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>>507560514
sweet jammies
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>>507560514
opened last night >>507510461
Really fun game
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>>507557586
What race is Fang canonically?
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"When Sephiroth is not on screen, other characters should ask: Where is Sephiroth?"
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>>507561667
Karpeth'muncha. It's in the codex
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>>507561667
bogan
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>>507497779
Versus somnus
Besaid island
Terra theme
Aerith theme
FF VI battle theme
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>>507560514
fuck that's so cool
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>>507527428
Or it was there when I last checked the thread. But it's plain to see your nerves were certainly touched.
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>>507542454
>>507542629
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>>507497779
Not gonna do top 5, but I have Price of Freedom as my current ringtone.
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>>507562073
You mean Cloud
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>>507564370
>no u
Not beating the mad allegations.
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>>507565854
>doesn't address the first sentence
Concession accepted. Not really beating the anger allegations after projecting twice.
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>>507564547
This Clive was much more memorable than Rosfield Clive.
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>>507568683
I like both.
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>>507505121
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Why did Hamaguchi drop his spaghetti at The Game Awards? Man that was embarrassing.
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was Rumiko big fan of Aoyama Misao too?
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At what point should I do Echoes of the Fallen and Rising Tide? As soon as it's available, or after the main story? Does it scale?
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>>507576047
When it's available, though keep in mind it expects more out of you than the base game.
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>>507510461
>>507560514
Merry Christmas!
Pretty good Final Fantasy haul this year.
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My brother and father failed to coordinate gifts, which is pretty funny.
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>>507578997
Those are just to represent the two parallel timelines
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>>507542454
The strongest...
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>>507578997
That's hilarious.
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>>507576047
Tide is only available at endgame IIRC
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>>507578997
>getting Hackjima slop

>>507577147
good haul
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth won eight awards at the Grand Game Awards 2024
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*crickets*
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>>507586421
Rebirth is the best... in Algeria
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>>507586421
You made some very sad people angry with some news. Oh well.
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I don't understand how XVI is so hated and Remake1 is praised to high hell. Remake1 has all of the cons of XVI but significantly worse. At least XVI is fresh and not just fucking up your memories
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>>507593291
>XVI is fresh
Its just babies first DMC. Remake's combat is actually something new.
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>>507593402
i meant more in story and characters. I agree XVI combat did need more depth but desu VII R doesn't have that much depth either.
I again don't hate Remake1 but this feels unnecessarily FOMO when it came out especially from secondaries (my biggest confusing is the secondaries being the loudest praise whores)
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>>507593291
>A DMC clone is fresh! (gameplay worse than action games from 20 years ago)
>VIIR is stale! (gameplay is actually forward thinking and new but blends the past and present)
Stop posting any time.
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We're going nowhere. I hate how there's no discussion anymore now a days. It's just politics all over again. Plenty of this shit is just shit flinging against each other. I'm tired of it.
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>>507593291
the VIIRgin cult astroturfs any discussion about 7R1&2.
The remakes copy a myriad of modern trends but it's promptly excused and handwaved, yet this same courtesy is never afforded to any game Yoshi-P touches.
The 10/10 FFXVI brought much needed life back to the series and restored faith in Final Fantasy.
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>>507594358
Rebirth has already won more GOTY awards than XVI did, and the year isn't even over yet. >>507587707
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>>507594358
No. XVI is far from perfect and it's not just the autists here. I'm genuinely why normies praise FF7R1 so much. It's so over the top, it unironically feels like a trigger anime with how wacky it gets at times but with realistic graphics and still trying to be "relatively grounded" and FF7R1 (who knows maybe 2 is way more fun) is just mostly build up.
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Oh hey, it appears that XVI picked up two more GOTY awards at some point. Congratulations. Lets see the updated tallyboard now.
>Remake: 37
>Rebirth: 24 (so far)
>XV: 12
>XVI: 3
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Ok anons. I don‘t have that much time. I do remember most of remake. Should I still replay remake and integrade, before playing rebirth?
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>>507595267
You should at least play Intergrade once before you play Rebirth.
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>>507595346
*or rather, the Intermission Yuffie episode, not necessarily the whole base game again.
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What do you guys see in FF7R? Is Rebirth actually way better than Remake?
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>>507595346
I already played it and got every trophy except beating weiss.
But should I replay it?
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>>507593291
>XVI is so hated and Remake1 is praised to high hell. Remake1 has all of the cons of XVI but significantly worse.
7Rem has better character interactions and more personality with the voice acting. Both in JP and En. XVI is dry and puts you to sleep.
Even with the story additions, 7rem still has a better story than XVI.
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>>507595578
No.
>>507595541
It's better if you like Ubisoft towers and minigames
>>507595658
7R is only better if you prefer campy anime/marvelslop. I wish it took itself more seriously like the original.
FFXVI is much better written and acted.
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>>507595541
I liked the combat. I liked the enemy designs that actually force you to play differently and strategize differently from encounter to encounter. Rebirth's combat is even further improved over Remake's.
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>>507595981
>wish it took itself more seriously like the original.
This guy are sick
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>>507595981
>I wish it took itself more seriously like the original.
We all know you've never played XVI, but now I'm starting to wonder if you even played OG VII.
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>>507595981
Last playthrough of integrade was in may this year remake years ago.
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>>507595981
I liked Redditbirth but I enjoyed the 10/10 FFXVI even more.
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>>507596241
Yes, you're right.. I forgot that FF7 has always been Kingdom Hearts.
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>>507595658
I disagree personally. Nostalgia aside, the cast doesn't really gravitate around Cloud naturally like Clive's crew does. Dialogue is also terrible in FF7R. The only character I was whatever and didn't like too much was Jill. But Clive carries the whole fucking game god damn. Probably one of my most favorite FF protagonist right next to Butz.
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>>507597682
Based and true
XVI and V have the quintessential FF protagonists
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>>507596973
Remember when Cloud has a gay sex moment in Honeybee Inn? I remember.
Remember when you could flirt with Don Corneo dressed as a woman? I remember.
Remember when Red XIII walked around on two feet? I remember.
Remember when Final Fantasy VII was super duper serious, grimdark, no fun allowed? Actually, no I don't.
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>>507595519
You know what I will do. Yuffie is fun as hell and playing it on normal with max level will be fun
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Clive is an empty husk.
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>>507598164
XVIfags mistake their lust for Clive for an actual personality.
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>XVI-faggot is shilling the mediocre game nobody remembers or venerates; even on Christmas day
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>>507598626
he hasn't been shilling for SoP though
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>>507598789
God, I wish he would.
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Remember when that XVI shill openly admitted that he didn't own the PS5 or the game? Remember when he pretended like that didn't matter? Those were good times. Wonder what he is up to.
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>>507598626
And you are making fun of it on Christmas day
>>507599235
I'm glad you are keeping track of every post over the last few years and have an innate detective ability to know exactly who every poster is
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>>507599235
Getting mad again.
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>>507599767
Seems so
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What am I in for bros?
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I am glad that XVI didn't fuck with any of my FF memories of when I was 10 years old..but I'm not glad that it fucked a 35 year old JRPG franchise beyond recognition!
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>>507600139
A pretty good game, that is ultimately just a visual novel with a combat system strapped on top. Y'know, like Persona. There isn't really anything to do though, but read the dialogue and fight battles.

I pirated it, but I enjoyed it a lot. Worth buying
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I will not purchase anything made by CS3.
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>>507595981
>>507596662
based and triggered the cult
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>>507599703
I'm making fun of you
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>>507600527
They aren't gonna like this one chuddha
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>>507598626
My issue actually is that the combat here is a much more watered down version of DMC. Its a character action game that doesn't really give you the tools to express yourself in the action. Games like DMC or Bayonetta are constantly giving you tools to your arsenal in their 10-12 hour adventure.

But here, this is a 40+ hour adventure. The rate at which you are getting skills is much, much slower. So it leads to a much more tedious combat system for me. Even when you do get more skills, they are cool downs. Not whole other weapons. You're still only tied to the one and only ground and air square combo with his sword.

By the 40 hour mark, I've already gone through DMC and Bayonetta multiple times, maximizing the combat, experimenting with all the tools available, and crafting the playstyle I like.
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>>507600753
Christmas well spent
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>>507601386
It really was. I had roast beef, got some Final Fantasy vinyl records and played with my niece, who showered me with affection and candy and sat in my lap. I think the best part though was my uncles face when he opened up his Secret Santa gifts, I've never seen him so happy. It was a wonderful Christmas indeed! How about you?
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>>507602061
Sounds boring. I'm glad you realized it's important to go on ffg and shitpost
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>>507595181
>VII Remake series has over 50 GOTY awards
Not bad
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>>507602271
if the ratio continues Rebirth is going to grab 100+ goty awards
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>>507600916
>this is a 40+ hour adventure
Whoa now there buddy. It's an over 80 hour adventure. It took nearly 30 hours on my PC playthrough before I even unlocked the 3rd Eikon (Ramuh) and got to Hunt and freely explore the "world".
So not only is it an extremely, overly long game for how much depth of content it has, it basically asks you to use the most rudimentary of the games kits for the length of THREE typical action games before you gain access to more kits, can actually make a build, and can freely "explore". It actually takes longer for XVI to open up than it takes XIII to open up. With three time skips where nothing develops off screen in the story, by the way.
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>>507603607
>overly long
No such thing. Games get better the longer they are. Only on 4chan do retards cry about getting more game in your game.
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>>507602802
Stillbirth was indeed ratio'd
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>>507603607
>over 80 hour adventure
lmao no it's not. A full playthrough is only 30 hours. The rest of the content was fetch quests and hunts.
You're being disingenuous trying to claim 50 hours of boring, cookie cutter side content is part of the full adventure hahaha.
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>>507604035
You're still parroting this lie?
>>507603607
80 hours is correct.
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>>507603607
My 100% normal mode playthrough was only 63 hours, but several hours of that was also just idling and AFKing.
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>>507604158
>parroting this lie
What lie kek.
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>>507604158
>still lying about the 30hr nonsense
It's no wonder that XIII-kun has zero understanding of XVI's story or gameplay
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>XVI is this 60-80 hour adve-
no
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>>507604604
Imagine thinking a streamlined yt video is proof
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>>507604158
>60-80 hours
for an easy mode run
It's another 60+ hours if you play it on the harder FF Mode and actually tackle the hardest Ultimaniac and Kairos Gate, not to mention the DLCs
You might be able to get it done on 30 if you skip most curscenes
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Even Takai himself said the game only takes 35-40 hours to beat, not taking side content into consideration.
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>>507604773
>Imagine posting proof I didn't seem fair
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>507604836
So 30hr-kun watched it on YouTube and came straight here to shitpost.
Not surprised desu
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50 hours of boring, cookie cutter side content is part of the full adventure.
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>>507605227
>"If you're a gamer that strives to see all aspects of the game, you are likely to spend around 81 Hours to obtain 100% completion"
I posted the proof like 6 months ago that I reached 100% completion of the story mode and that it took me 79 hours according to the PS5 clock. That includes the time I spent taking screenshots. I also played Rising Tide and Echoes of the Fallen but I didn't complete the sidequests in Rising Tide, because they were becoming genuinely awful. That brown woman NPC party member they added might be the most bland and forgettable character in Final Fantasy history.
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>60 hour YouTube video
>still cuts out over 30 hours of footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90mFcptkvOE
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>>507606030
So you agree that it takes 80 hours to complete.
Just say that next time instead of lying, little bro.
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>>507607316
I'm the anon who said it was 80 hours >>507603607
I was just replying to you because we agreed.
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>>507607469
It took me about the same.
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>>507606030
I liked Shula but didn't bother with too many side quests except the most important ones.
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>>507605026
The yoshicult will ignore the game's director because it wasn't decreed by Yoshida himself.
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>>507603762
I think if the 50 hours of side content actually had, you know, worthwhile content in it, I wouldn't have had such a problem with it. Martha's Rest sucks. Rosaria sucks. Purple haze sky over the map sucks. Dhalmekia (mostly) sucks. I actually really wanted to love XVI for the first 20 hours or so. It was exceptional. Loved the opening setup, the characters, the look and feel of it all. So good. Dreamy even, in some places. But there's not one form of interactivity outside of the combat, the combat becomes extremely dull once you've seen it 100 times because there's no mechanics to play with and you're just waiting for cooldowns (terrible design for an action game). There are QTE's in every cutscene. Mostly on rails scripted sequences are the highlights of the entire game. Non-existent exploration, non-existent rewards. It asks you for at least 2x the main stories runtime if you want to see all the stories play out, meet all the people, and finish all their quests. But there's almost nothing there for you to chew on. No upgrades, no good equipment. No special sauce. It's just too damn much "game" for way way too little "fun" in exchange.
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>>507603607
According to >>507607305 video the Akashic Dragon fight, getting Ramuh, and the second timeskip are only 15 hours in, certainly not 30.
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>>507609514
>over 30 hours of footage was cut out
Yeah there's no way any of that footage was cut from the first half of the game....nope.....I must defend XVI's extremely bloated runtime at all costs despite everyone knowing exactly how long it takes to beat the game
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>>507608676
But enough about XIII
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>>507609514
So you're still pretending to be an expert on this by watching an edited YouTube video
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>>507610103
>The cult tries to deflect away from a post that specifically lists issues with XVI
Sad.
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>>507610254
Well anon he doesn't own the PS5 he said so. He may not even have it on PC either. So he doesn't know any of this. It's all been inferred
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>the games own director says the game takes 35-40 hours to beat
>howlongtobeat says the game takes 37.5 hours to beat
>one random anon says the second timeskip alone takes 30 hours to get to
I wonder who I should trust.
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>>507610739
Maybe you should play the game and find out?
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>>507608676
Man, you destroyed XVIkek with the power of Claire.
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>>507610739
>he doesn't know how long the game takes to play for himself, because he didn't play it
It was 28 hours clocked on Steam before the cutscene after the 2nd timeskip was finished playing. Second playthrough on the PC. Clive was sitting on Ambrosia, riding around Rosaria looking for a Hunt with the third Eikon equipped. That's the moment the game 'opens up' from the linear hallways and QTE cutscenes, and you are given Hunts and the ability to "explore the map" and start taking sidequests en masse. I remember closing the game, looking at my Steam playtime and thinking "did it really take almost 30 hours to get to this point? Longer than it takes XIII to open up?"
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>>507611992
>>507612378
>THE DIRECTOR IS LYING REEEEEE
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>>507612984
>becomes affiliated with yoshitpiss
>begins to lie through his teeth
MANY SUCH CASES!
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>>507612378
>"explore the map"

It's true. There's nothing to explore. There are practically no chests with interesting equipment, and even if rarely there are, the items there are just some trash belts or wristbands, weaker than what you already have. The whole map is just an empty field with MMO quests, trash mobs whose aggression and damage can only be fixed with mods, and a couple of trials.
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>>507598164
Clive is really a vessel, a bucket into which Elvin and Cid have poured certain beliefs. The problem is that he himself, with few exceptions, is not particularly active in developing his beliefs or making sense of things. What a waste of potential.
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>>507612984
If the game is 'less than 40 hours', then I hope you know that half of that time is being spent watching cutscenes. And almost half of the gameplay time that is remaining is running through hallways. Half of that remaining gameplay time is heavily scripted Eikon fights. There's about 6 hours worth of actual "game" to play in the main story combat encounters, and it's stretched out extraordinarily thinly.
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>>507613449
I'm still waiting for Yoshi-P to tell me about the RPG mechanics in Final Fantasy XVI. I beat the game, but I never found any RPG mechanics.
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>>507614467
>I thought the movie was over
>but then...the movie started again...
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>>507615068
lol
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>>507614467
>watch cutscenes
>run through hallways whose only difference between the levels is purely aesthetic
>"explore" a world with nothing in it
>"customize" your character with accessories that boost damage by 5%
>fight copypaste and recolored enemies with very few unique or novel mechanics
>"party" is an illusion since they can't be interacted with and contribute little to nothing
>the "skill tree" is more like a skill board where your choices do not interact with or build off of other choices, nor do your choices do anything to most skills aside from boost their numbers
XVI just makes me sad. I still love the idea of it, but the game was so botched it ended up being one of my least favorite games ever; one of the few I completed and actually walked away actively hating. I'd love a total do-over of the game, but actually put some effort into the game and not entirely into the cutscenes and special effects.
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>>507621086
That's really the biggest issue with 16. Not only is the gameplay paper thin, but its stretched out over far too long a period of time.
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XVI was the best game I've played, personally.
Not sure what all the shitposting is about tbqh
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>>507622350
just a few salty VIIRgins, pay them no mind
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Awful quiet in here. Maybe it's time for some XIII talk! That's sure to spice things up

What is the best and most soulful modern single player Final Fantasy game that is actually true to the series' other best games in scope and vision, and why is it actually XIII?

Three niggas in a row (or three hot gals if you want). ATB system that is arguably the best iteration of the system ever in a mainline title, effortlessly streamlined old FF combat essence into 21st century packaging for the first and only time. Still uses the pre-rendered backgrounds and instanced battles just like all the classics did. Incredible art style and graphical fidelity, looks better than 99% of all modern games 15 years later. No Uematsu tracks at all, not even prelude, still one of the best OST's in a video game that is wholly unique and wholly Final Fantasy. 6 Jobs with Commands that only they can execute. The only game that correctly uses the Stagger mechanic with juggling enemies (a reward for actually playing the game properly). Best spell effects that actually looks like magic, not just elements. Insane end-game power spike with perhaps the most ridiculously OP builds and damage numbers in the series

Vanille is in the game
Lightning is in the game
Fang is in the game

The most thematically unique and emotionally engaging use of the crystal motif in the entire series. Most underrated and overhated English VAs. The best prerendered cutscenes, the literal peak of Visual Works style and fidelity.

It was literally so god damned artistically inspired and out of control creatively, that 50% of the games contents were cut out so they could make it into an Xbox 360 game using Crystal Tools. Fabula Nova Crystalis ultimately fails for being way, way too ambitious in scope artistically for this bunch of Japanese dudes to figure out. It was also out of reach for their technological capabilities and the consumers hardware (remember Versus XIII trailers running at 13 fps on PS3)
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>>507622350
Why?
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>>507622350
>everything I disagree with is a shitpost
cute and fragile
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>>507622350
>>507622493
>90 seconds
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>>507622690
There was a thread about XIII on /v/ a month or so ago, and people were discussing themes, plot, and lore of the game. Judging by the posts of some posters, half of the story really went over my head back in 2010. I liked how someone drew a paralel between Lightning and that main goddess, forgot her name. It was really unusual and I hadn't even thought about that. Soon I'm going to play the trilogy, but first I need to read the prequel novel to understand everything as clearly as possible.
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>>507623619
For me the funniest part about the VIIR vs XVI beef thing is when the XVI shills themselves try to put Clive next to Cloud in their 'memes'
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>>507624817
I was more than likely posting in there! I haven't read the novel or any of that stuff. I just played XIII. Liked XIII-2 but the story was meh for me. LR is an interesting game and super underrated overall but it's just not up to snuff of the mainline quality standard.

XIII is not as much of a psychedelic trip as VII or VIII are and it's not as spiritual or emotional as X. But XIII has the unmistakable connection to the old games' vision for a wholly unique and memorable Final Fantasy-specific aesthetic to it's world. The storytelling feels more like a dramatic science fiction series meets a stage-play than it does some plodding fantasy novel. Science fantasy is the obvious terminology to describe the most popular of Final Fantasy aesthetics. For me, these games are usually more engaging to sink your teeth into and discuss than plain high fantasy usually is, just because of how many weird/unique creations can come about from the creative process whenever you blend up genres/worlds/influences. All of the best Final Fantasy games (for me) have very clear science fiction influences to go alongside the fantasy. Knights and mages with magic swords and crystals, but you also have guns and robots, laser beams, and one dude/girl who just straight up punches stuff.
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>>507622690
I thought the japanese dub was the best for XIII tbqh. Dub really oozes that 10s anime dub in a bad way. Either way I love how bitchy Lightning is in both versions lmfao. I thought it would be a 2b scenario where the english VA direction is just wrong but nope Lightning is such a cunt lmao
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Is XVI worth 25 bucks if I got spoiled about some big stuff anons?
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>>507630779
It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.

ITS DO OR DIE
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>>507630456
Bro what the FUCK was her problem?
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>>507630779
Eh, for twenty five bucks its okay for the shallow romp that it is. Go for it.
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>>507631708
>>507632419
Thanks! Should I even bother getting the DLCs as well or should I just skip it?
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>>507632253
overworked and overstressed. dealing with dumbshit Snow.

The biggest mistake XIII had was the pairings. It really should've been
Lightning x Snow
Serah x Noel
Caius can have whatever her fucking name is
Vanille x Hope

But noooooooooo, they don't even fully sail the Hope x Lightning ship if it even ever left...
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>>507632543
yeah why not
>>507632419
bitch
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>>507629520
After XVI's dull sleep-inducing dialogues, I started to treat the character dynamics in XIII better. They all act like over-emotional little kids, especially at the beginning. It's cringe and hilariousy funny, but feels sincere at the same time.
Kinda like that they are so unlikable, if that makes sense.
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>>507632615
>dealing with dumbshit Snow.
But he was right about basically everything.
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>>507632543
Only get them if once you get to endgame and feel like you actually want more. They can't even be accessed until that point.
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>>507632253
Play the game and find out my friend. It's been 15 years.

>>507633471
One of my absolute favorite scenes in the game right here. Something 90% of people who "discuss" the game have never seen.

https://youtu.be/_M6OxUpGx_I?t=152

>I'm sorry...forgive me.
>For what?
>Everything.
>....if you tell me your real name, I suppose I could?
>Heh....have Serah tell you. When she comes back.
>Deal.

There's a lot to unpack here if you actually play it and paid attention to the story. Lightning shows vulnerability towards Snow for the very first time. The way he reacts, sits up, questions what she's talking about. When she says everything, he understands clearly. So he prods her a little bit, offering up a joke that simultaneously opens her up to him even further. Snow doesn't even know her name, she's so walled up. They both agree on their common goal to rescue Serah, no longer fight, and become 'family' for the first time right here.
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>what are you guys doing in here
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>absolutely hated XIII and only beat it so I can tell people how ass it was
>wanted to do XIII-2 so I could also bitch about it but don't have the power to go through another nomura shitfest
>decide to watch a lets play on youtube
>only watched 10 mins
>some faggot emo monologuing and voiced by that dude from Critical Role
>auto-battle auto battle auto battle
>action click scenes
>some new OC donuet steel appears out of nowhere
>Lightning summoning some moogle what the fuck
>"ya gotta change the future and save my sister"
>"k"
How do you people enjoy this trash? I'm getting pissed just watching it.
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>>507634002
not really. but he's just enough of an autist to keep punching his problems down. not until xiii-2 were he fucks up so bad it takes lightning after 1000 years or whatever to snap him out of it
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>>507635294
>watch let's play
cringe
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>off topic image
>"decide to watch a lets play"
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>>507635294
>so I can tell people how ass it was
>so I could also bitch about it
You don't need to announce that you're a shitposter, anon. We know.
>nomura shitfest
My condolences.
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>>507635327
He was right Serah wasn't gone forever and might come back. He's the only one who's been saying that since the beginning of the game.
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>>507635951
>I'll fulfill this Focus, and save Serah
>We'll stop this, take down the Sanctum, and save Cocoon
>Our Focus is to save Cocoon, Serah said so
He was never wrong during XIII.

Snow and the reaction to his character is proof that 'people' without strong moral convictions should not attempt to consume sincere media about romance, the power of love, virtue, sacrifice, family and the greater good. They aren't capable of processing it objectively
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>>507636309
>Our Focus is to save Cocoon
>Source: Serah said so
Fucking based.
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Tifa is a futanari?!
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My friends gave me final fantasy video games for Christmas
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>We'll be fine. I can handle anything they throw at us. No one will die.
>I'll protect Serah. And Cocoon!
>*gets punched in the face for telling the truth to an irate woman*
>Does she look protected to you!?
>I can save her!
>*gets punched again*
>What can you possibly do!?
>Whatever it takes!
>*Lightning's fist unclenches as she realizes that she is the one who is giving up on Serah, no one else*
>You two are hopeless. You just can't admit it.
>You want to stay as much as he does.
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>>507637669
Based as fuck, enjoy XIII and Crisis Core they are both genuinely good 'Final Fantasy' in completely different ways
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>>507636813
Snow is the only person that believed every word she ever said, the only one who had her full and unconditional trust. Lightning had to learn from Snow how to love and protect Serah
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All of lightnings problems could have been solved if she became a creampie slut
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>>507560514
Is that the XVI OST?
Was gonna nab that for New Year
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>>507644314
It's the Final Fantasy 35th Anniversary Orchestral Compilation Vinyl
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>>507644987
Yep! It all sounds amazing by the way /ffg/. Pretty sure they are all new recordings, sounded pretty different than Distant Worlds. Prelude, main theme, One Winged Angel are absolutely perfect, maybe the best versions I've ever heard. Don't be Afraid, Zanarkand, Blinded by Light, Apocalypsis Noctis.....pure fucking kino. The XIV track was really great too.
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FF13 discussion > FF16 discussion
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>>507646368
XIII discussion is so much fun
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XIII Remaster VERY SOON! WE BELIEVE!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UT-dvnzPSpU?feature=share
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>>507646480
Why doesn't her game have a fertility stay?
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>>507646706
Shhh just listen to her making sex noises
https://youtu.be/OmJXQazhTac?t=1691
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>>507646654
>the 15th anniversary of FF13 and 25th anniversary of FF9 in the next year

2025 is looking great
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13 is the worst one though
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The world wasn’t ready for FF13 at the time. It took 3 bad mainline games for people to start appreciating FF13.
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Is 13 better than 12?
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>>507649256
>woman "jornalist"
>praises woman protag game
wow
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Why did they cover her vagina bones
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>>507649621
For a lot of people, no it's not. Because they care far more about stats/jobs/roleplaying system depth and the illusion of freedom, than they do about compelling, memorable and emotional storytelling.

For me, yeah it is better. Because I care more about Final Fantasy being a dramatic, extravagant and unforgettable experience than I care about tinkering with stats/levels/jobs. XII has the blandest and most forgettable cast that are impossible to identify with, it has the blandest setting in the entire franchise, copied from a spin off game, and it's perhaps the blandest and most inane story setup for a game I've ever played. I'm not sure what the inciting incident for the plot was even supposed to be. The murder of Rasler? That guy who literally doesn't matter and was never given a reason for us to care about? Or maybe it's some other incident that happens during the course of the game which is supposed to make you care? I honestly could not tell you about anything that even happens in XII except running around in brown/gray sewers, brown towns, and brown deserts, talking to fat pig people.

Setting/buying/unlocking Gambits was not fun. I was like "oh okay, so it plays the game for you?....very fun". Wow, I did all this work in the games menu setting things up; just so that I don't have to actually play the shitty game.

The 'real time with pause' gameplay they went for is objectively uninteresting and inferior to 3 niggas in a row. It plays like Dragon Age Origins, not Final Fantasy. It's messy, chaotic, and requires targeting lines and circles and other bullshit on top in order for you to understand what the fuck is even going on. The elegance of three niggas in a row is butchered for a fake MMO that you play alone. I think it's really obvious why that system was never iterated on. It's fucking ass cheeks.
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>brown skin
>white hair
>bunny girl
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>>507651969
You forgot "built like Manute Bol"
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>>507651495
The original FF12 didn’t even have a job system. Every character could equip anything, learn any spell, and their stats were almost identical. The only difference was their attack animations. Trust me, the original FF12’s combat is even more braindead than FF13’s.
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>XIII combat
>requires you to play properly, timing strategies and proactive aggression or else it will punish you instantly/take 10 minutes to win
>braindead
IDK about that! "Auto Battle" without constant switching will not get you through the games tough fights. But I do agree that XII gameplay is worse overall. No amount of "if-thens" or "open maps" will ever make it more fun to play than XIII or XIII-2 combat is on hard mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNEK_yn709Q
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XVI should have borrowed XIII's stats and equipment system
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>almost 850,000 damage with one Limit Break
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>>507651495
I don't disagree with many points but
>It plays like Dragon Age Origins, not Final Fantasy.

The creators of Dragon Age were literally inspired by XII's combat system, so their combat system is very similar to XII's.
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I haven't played Rebirth yet, which probably answers this, but which version of Sephiroth do you fight at the end of Remake? His body should still be frozen, so is the final boss just another clone, or is there actually time-travel shit going on?
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>>507657301
Jenova can manifest from any of the black robes.
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XIII is trash and you're trash for liking it.
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>>507646368
Based.
>>507646480
He's mad at you, XIII chad.
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>>507658454
*XVI

Sorry for mistyping.
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>>507646654
>people in the comments are begging for remaster
>one of the most liked SE's shorts in a while
She's the storm that is approaching.
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Does Noel cuck Snow in XIII-2?
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>>507657301
Don't leave home without this chart
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>>507660320
Noel is too obsessed with wanting to fuck his loli girlfriend to bother with Serah.
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>>507657301
It was all a dream bro. Always was
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>>507658545
I just think it's very interesting that it's been 15 years and there's more to say about XIII than there is to say about XVI after 18 months
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>>507656994
yeah and it notoriously sucks dick
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Aeris prettiest girl in Final Fantasy.
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>>507632543
Yes. Enjoy Jill's DLC
It's her story.
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XIV mogs anything post X
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>get told for years that ff7 was good for its time, but the story is ultimately very juvenile, with the "let's go save the world!!!" mindset, and the main romance is the childhood friends who fall in love
>finally play it, look inside:
>it's a personal revenge story
>the childhood friends are literally not childhood friends and it's the biggest twist of the game

huh?
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>>507670517
FF7 was in fact so good that it warranted modern day level contrainism because it got too popular. It swept every best game of all time award of its time so people kept trying to meme ways to say it wasn't as good as everyone thought. But it was.
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>>507670196
It did until Dawntrail.
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Dawntrail filtered millions.
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>>507670517
Most people meme'ed ff haven't played the game.
They are advent children fans
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PC MAKES THE WAIFU EVEN BETTER

TAKE THE PC PILL AND LAUGH AT CUC_KSOLES
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>>507677076
>play on ps5
>everything looks uncanny valley
Look I just wanted a game that looked as good as ff7 remake
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>>507654228
dos not using auto battle make so much difference? I remember beating that fucker in 20 minutes with lightning, fang and hope (the most basic team).
Sure you need to swap your roles very fast otherwise you get wiped. But makes auto battle a difference? I mean did get the platinum without it, just cheated for 5 million gil after the battle. I only ever used autobattle, or let's say just pressed the auto button.

Also I do not agree with ff12 combat system beeing bad. It is actually fun having autobattle with if thens.
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>>507677076
Will it make the death scene that much clearer?
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>>507680973
Guess what will the scar look like?
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>>507683151
In the shape of a J for Jenova
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>>507670517
duuuuude look at me!!! i dislike the popular thing!!! I'm so coooool!!!
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>>507683151
goddess
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>"Kurivu! Get your fat tits out of my face and let someone else have some screentime!" - Joshua, at some point probably
Anyway here's a sketch of the hunk.

He kinda gives the impression of being a beast but he's like 6' and 80kg somehow.
I think him and Joshua are the tallest humans in the setting (besides Goetz and Kupka), so everyone else must be like 5' nothing
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https://youtu.be/I7ME68XsXC0?si=-iPpXxbD9WpB8Xe2

German dragoon aerith
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I've just beaten Bahamut on my FF run in XVI, doing all the side missions but skipping all the side mission cutscenes, the game flows a lot better.
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>>507686792
there is like only 1 side mission that was worthwile. And that is the mission with the grave. Everything else was so fucking boring.
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>>507687248
You're autistic, aren't you? You really don't think any of the side quests other than that one had compelling character arcs/growth/stories or world building?
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>>507687248
The more game there is in a game the better the game is. The only way XVI or Rebirth could have been better is if they took twice as long to complete.
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>>507687506
>You're autistic, aren't you?
probably. But I don't see them. I remember the last sidequest about the slaves in the town, which was like just existing and I already forgot about it. I don't remember any of them giving anything valid, where I was like wow. I had more fun with the Remake Sidequests.

The only one that is worthwhile is like I said getting the chocobo ( if that even was a sidequest) and the one with the helmet and the grave. Everything else were boring, didn't add anything meaningful etc.
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>>507658454
Based and true
>>507649621
XII >>> XIII on every possible level.
XII is a masterpiece.
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>>507687506
>had compelling character arcs/growth/stories or world building
Describe 3.
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>>507688025
Technically every extra minute we spend in the world and around characters is world building, so it's impossible for any sidequest to not be world building. And if your brain is wired a certain way you find all of that compelling.
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>>507688025
Quintin's arc going from living purely for revenge, to survior's guilt, to living with hope for the future. Lubor's arc with his sarcastic snide front being revealed as a way to hide his status as a bearer, the town finding out and turning on him, him not faltering and still loving the Dhalamil Inn, ending with people uniting to defend their home. The Waloed Bhemoth/monster/bearer prison and the Waloed bearer training/torture "orphanage". Both really horrible places but survivors from both places don't let their past define them.

The girl who asks you to find her pet, which turns out to be a bearer, or the noble whose idea of bonding with his son is watching their dog kill people who they've tricked into "rescuing" his son.
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>>507686280
I just remembered that it's 1000x worse in FF7R considering Cloud is like 175ish cm yet he towers over most NPCs like they're actual gnomes
Why are the Japanese so bad with heights and weights?
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I know Invictus is Elwin's sword, but it should have been Ragnarök/Götterdämmerung.
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We need a gOOd FF general that bans the objectively bad ones. Autists with shit taste infested this place and the sickness must be purged.
It would only ban:
XIII, XV
Thoughts?
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>>507687962
>XII is a masterpiece
could you elaborate
>>507651495
thanks for the detailed answer
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>>507689415
Sounds good to me
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>>507587298
>>507587707
Why are you melting down on Christmas? There wasn't even any anger anywhere above your post either...
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>>507691453
lil bro crying about posts that bothered him a day ago
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>507691609
>sissy is projecting again
First thing I see when coming back to the tab is those posts. I actually spent my christmas having fun, not seething over other people. Sorry.
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>>507686280
Vaynefag is that you?

>>507633471
Have you tried taking meds for your ADD?
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>>507593402
>>507593587
>>507594648
Not quite as fun. Only Tifa is remotely fun to play. But that's WHEN you get to play as her. Hallways and bloated dungeons and talk talk talk.
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I want FFXVII to be a musical.
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>>507637558
Canon

>>507692880
mite b cool
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>>507692880
does JAPAN know how to make good musicals?
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>>507623502
>>507623619
Jimbo won. Rebirth didn't win GOTY at The Game Awards.
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>>507687506
Youre just mad that you got more game in your game. Wow good point!
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>>507696025
But he wanted Metaphor to win and it didn't. He didn't win, it's more like a draw. Or he lost but so did we. But he didn't win.
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