BALDUR'S GATE GENERALRUNNING HOT EditionPC trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCfkgaaa08PS5 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW4Fdh6zFM>News:Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of very low or very high rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>506994741
>>507222984Ugly Edition
Missionary with Astarion
>>507223272cute frog
>>507222984>>507223229>>507223272cute frog
>>507222984Hideous frog>>507223292Hideous Lach
>>507221737Now, continuing your reasoning: "the fact that you do not witness an action does not mean that it did not happen, or: the absence of evidence is not proof of absence." In addition to having to point out how absurd this type of statement is, especially if contextualized, I repeat, in a role-playing game in which only the things that the player experiences fall within the "canon" of his personal experience.Attributing to authors, writers, etc. various branching paths and alternative roleplaying solutions does not mean having to make them all simultaneously true, it is not a Skyrim Dragonbreak where every alternative is possible, even when they contradict each other. Forcing a player to "suffer" the choices of others (more specifically, those that you yourself suffered when romanced Shart for the first time) is intellectually disarming.I'll give you other examples, both inside Baldur's Gate 3 and in other video games:Karlach can be killed by the player, if they think she is a devil: I didn't choose to kill her, but in Anon#2's game, he chose to cut off her head. Evidently the authors wrote the character of Tav making him think that Karlach is a devil: does this mean that my Tav who has romanced and had hot sex still thinks she is a devil to be killed?Shepard in Mass Effect 2: has two classic paths in front of him, Paragon or Renegade, which leads them to choose various actions. Obviously the writers and authors have created dialogues for both scenarios, but you are saying that, for example, the choice between Samanta and Morinth is a "schroedinger's cat" situation because, following your personal vision taking Shart's example, both solutions are written in fire in Shepard's mind, and whether you see them or not does not matter. If you're starting to think this is ridiculous, you're right, because it always was until you decided that a certain character had to be the exception to the norm in role playing games.
>>507222984>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.Lies.
>word salad guy struggles with the concept of past tense she already dreamt of sex multiple times before telling you
>>507223787No.
need him to ruin my life
Reminder: Kill all halflings, blast all halflings with civil war cannons, roundhouse kick all halflings into concrete
>>507223635Meme addled retard will bitch, but you're 100% correct and obviously so
>>507223635put your name back
>>507223949I would have babies with Roah Moonglow
>>507223949Why?
>https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/14361bg3's fixed
>>507224401
>>507224401https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/5285you used the wrong mod
I'm weak willed and easily to manipulate, how do I get a minthara gf irl?
>>507221737You've said absolutely nothing new. I've already addressed the argument of the people who say they never went to the brothel and thus never heard the line. We've literally already been over exactly that several times. To explain it again, putting your head in the sand and saying you didn't hear it doesn't affect what is happening. The way John chose to word her line means that it's something she's already done many times over time before you ask about it, which means it's something she's doing if you don't ask about it. As I have already said, this means that it's not something that is up to the player to decide, it's something that happens separate from your choices. Which is the issue for most people. When you ask Shart if she wants to bang Halsin, she responds "Yes, in fact I've already daydreamed about it many times". Now examine this response logically. She's telling you that she's already considered what you proposed. Which means, what his the case if you never asked? Consider this question. If your friend thinks about eating pizza every day for a week, and you ask him if he wants pizza, and he says "Yeah I've been dreaming of pizza all week", that means your friend desires pizza, and he desired it before you brought it up. Now, consider the hypothetical in which you never asked him about pizza. You never bring it up. You don't even enter the pizza parlor. Ask yourself if you never asking or you never going to pizza parlor affects whether or not your friend has been dreaming of pizza all week. If when you ask he informs you that he's been dreaming of it all week, then that means he's already been doing that. If you never ask, then he's still doing it, you just never asked to find out. This is why John's choice of words is problematic for most players. He doesn't leave it up to your choice, he writes a line that specifically means she's already been doing it before you ask, and thus would be doing it if you never asked.
remember last time these two went at it.
>>507224321I would happily yeet your newborns into chasms.>>507224323Ugliest, most putrid race ever created. They're like scrunched up Englishmen.
>>507224961minthara stop he's already cucked
>>507224961If he's too stupid to understand object permanence, then explaining it one more time isn't going to help him. he's too stupid to participate in the discussion
>>507225061literally no one thought that giths were sexy until larian designed laezel
>>507225061If that's enough reason to justify genocide, then I'm justified killing you just because of how ugly your soul looks.
>>507224961And he's only DREAMING about eating the pizza correct. The pizza hasn't been eaten?Are you worried the hypothetical pizza you're gonna make for him isn't good enough to sway him from other pizzas?Sounds like a skill issue in pizza making if im being perfectly honest.Do you feel inadequate about your pizzas?
>>507225408I'd fuck with some pizza right now
>>507225469Eh I already had a good lunch. I can make you dream of my pizzas though if you want.
will larian's next game have someone as beautiful as him?
>>507223635I've literally already addressed this. In all of your examples, the author presents two or more branching paths and has the game react to the choice you made, and presents the choice for the player to decide. The reason the Shart scene is different is because just avoiding a scene so you never see it and then saying it doesn't exist because I didn't see it is not making a choice that the game reacts to and gives you choices to select. You're just avoiding the scene. The better analogy to the Shart situation would be a player simply avoiding ever contacting Shepherd's mother so that they can headcanon Shep was grown in a lab. It's not an actual choice in the game, you're just avoiding the scene. It's the same with Shart. Avoiding the scene so you never hear her say she's been dreaming of Haslsin is not an actual roleplaying choice, and the game doesn't supply you with two or more equivalent choices to select from that it then reacts to, like in al of the other examples you gave. If you ask Shart what she thinks of Halsin, she says she wants to have sex with him. If you simply avoid the scene and never ask her, then you will never hear this line, but what I and others have been trying to get you to understand is that this doesn't retroactively make the line not exist. You just didn't go hear it. In other words, Shart doesn't have an alternate state in which she doesn't want to fuck Halsin, she just has states where he's already dead, or you haven't advanced the romance enough and she says she wants her first time to be only with you. You dont' get to decide this, it's not a choice, it's a progress check of whether you've advanced the romance to a certain point.You're just repeating things, and you're repeating things that I've already addressed. You're repeatedly trying to be snide and talk down to me which is immature on its own, but doing that while you're failing to understand simple object permanence makes it even more funny.
>>507225946I'm bi and I can't for the life of me find any of the male companions attractive, Astarion looks like a crackhead
>>507224961>mintharafag when someone brings up italian foodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZzU8ptVWw&ab_channel=DamianeK%E2%80%99rafordi
>>507226221holy autism
>>507226221Make her not want to have sex with him with the power of your cock?
>>507223859No, and I want to reiterate this point.Mintharafag states, and I quote:"When you ask her if she would Halsin to fuck her, her response is "I've already daydreamed about that many times". That means that if you never went to brothel to see that line, she's still doing it. Because she did it before you asked. [...]It has nothing to do with a majority decision or overwriting other people's roleplaying. It's not up to me or a majority to decide what Shart does or thinks, it's up to the author. If your roleplaying choice is that you avoid the brothel so you never see this line, it's not affecting what she WOULD say if you did ask her. What you're proposing is sticking your head in the sand and saying that if you don't hear it, it doesn't exist. Just because you don't ask her opinion on having sex with Halsin, doesn't mean she doesn't daydream about having sex with Halsin due to the way the line is written."According to Mintharafag, there will ALWAYS be a moment in the game, regardless of whether the player sees it, hears it, or does something, when Shart thinks "wow, I really want to bang Halsin". No exceptions. That's what Mintharafag thinks, and we can all agree on that, right? It's been said many, many...oh, way too many times.
>>507226474namefag self inserts as an ugly lesbian thoughever
>>507226489Now, consider this scenario: infiltration of the Goblin Camp to free Halsin. Party members: Tav, Lae'zel, Gale, Karlach. We encounter a bear in a cage, in the scuffle it is killed.Halsin is dead, Shadowheart will never meet him either.Now, I take up the namefag's words again, according to which by the time they got to Act 3, Shart should have already had a erotic dream with Halsin: but of course that's ridiculous to think about now, isn't it? And it's ridiculous because they never met, because of a choice of the player. However, always following our beloved, Shart should start talking like a schizo about a character who died 40 hours before that he never met, because "John wrote it like that".>"But obviously this is not the case, because the player killed Halsin and therefore this thing is not possible."So, some actions of the player are taken into account and are valid, while in other, extremely specific contexts that affect the plot of virtually all players, they are transversally canonical.So, following his train of logic, what Mintharafag is actually saying is that the player's choices in Baldur's Gate 3, GOTY RPG 2023 do not matter. But it gets worse than that.
>>507226580Maybe he wouldn't have performance problems in bed if he quit self inserting as the wrong gender.
>>507226489yeah and he's right. that's why normal people don't like the douchebag who wrote shart and halsin. he wrote them to dream of sex with each other and be enthusiastic about it. it's fucking cringe
>>507226819We've been over this before. (You) are not normal.
>>507225162They were cool ugly. Halflings are just gross little fat freaks.>>507225308You stumpy little abominations couldn't genocide rodents.
>>507226657Because the knowledge that Shart "regularly daydreams about Halsin" in some cases can only be justified with purely metagaming aspects, knowing either what already happened in a friend's game, or having previous experience. Now it's a topic discussed...sigh, daily, but I'm sure there's a very strong emotional aspect to the revelation the first time, enough to force people on this same platform to come to terms with their existence.This entire speech is the equivalent of collecting every barrel of Smokepowder Bibberbang and then, 50 hours later, stuffing House of Hope to make Raphael explode; cheesing the cambion on the Nautiloid to have a powerful weapon right from the start.What I mean is that in addition to being logically absurd, so much so that it would have to justify real headcanons to impose them on other players, it also goes against the same principles of roleplaying that should push people to get passionate about the game.You disappoint me a lot, Mintharafag. Now I will read those posts you have publicly in the middle of my speech, even though I had previously explicitly told you that mine would be a multi-part response, in the hope that your eagerness would be kept in check but no, the cacolalia runs rampant.
>>507226819those are perfectly normal thoughts but sulking over it is not healthy, it's time to move on
>>507226657I already addressed the case where Halsin is dead right here >>507226221 and multiple times in the past. The premise has always been the player who doesn't jump through hoops to avoid Shart dreaming of Halsin, which means Halsin is alive.And once again I will repeat something that I already said, which is that avoiding the topic doesn't actually change the content. Killing Halsin doesn't change the fact that when he's alive and you ask Shart about whether she wants to fuck Halsin, she says yes. It's just killing Halsin so he's not around so the question is never asked. Once again you're having trouble with object permanence. Killing Halsin so the question is never asked is just putting your head in the sand again, and we've already been over that.
>>507227495>>507225408
How do I get a gf irl so I don't become a schizo namefag?
>>507227279>he thinks I'm a halflingKek.
>>507227747get a hobby that involves several people or ask your family/friends to introduce you to QTs
>>507226261part of the appeal I think, probs why I have a small crush on neil as well
>>507227747Put yourself out thereBe open to love Don't go too crazy and scare her off with political spergery and remember
>>507227279>Halflings are just gross little fat freaks.Wrong
>>507228012he's so dreamy
>>507228012
>>507227370Trying to say that going to Shartess's Caress with the most popular companion in the game plus Halsin is uncommon is ridiculous. Everyone used Shart, most people recruited Halsin, and at that point in the game most people have thier waifu with them and the new guy with them, since you only recruit him towards the latter half of act 2. The main quest and multiple side quests take you to the brothel. It's just wrong to say this is an uncommon occurrence.But with that ridiculous and wrong claim aside, the popularity of the event doesn't actually change anything anyway. If only one person ever saw this conversation with Halsin, that wouldn't actually change anything about what it tells us. If you bring Shart and Halsin to the brothel, Shart reveals that she's been dreaming of having sex with him many times already. That isn't affected by it being a million or a single person to see that conversation. So your entire tangent about it being rare (which happens to also be incorrect anyway) is irrelevant. Every single thing you've said has been wrong.
>>507228012talloids wish they looked this beautiful.
>>507228219>Shartessyeah buddy your pizzas fucking SUCK
>hum today I will spend my evening calling a video game character a whore
>>507228479unlike you mintharafag stands for truth
>>507227386it's not perfectly normal to dream about sex with your friend instead of your significant other many times. if you're having thoughts like that over time then it's abnormal
>>507228535Be a man and fix her with your cock
>>507227495You are responding to my arguments by reiterating the same content that produced my initial statements in the first place.You talk about "object permanence" and yet it seems that my answers cease to exist in your mind the moment you have to argue a response, the result is that it is truly disarming to argue with you. I suppose the reason why people rarely engage in these types of discussions is precisely because of the "cyclical nature" that permeates your posts, despite having appealed from the beginning to try, on your part, not to resort to the usual high school debate clichés.Look how hereyour first move is to discredit and snub as "uncommon and improbable" a completely legitimate choice of roleplay. I don't even comment on the fact that I was talking about Goblin Camp, and not Sharess Caress: do you even read my posts?
Mintharafag is right, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm tired of this conversation coming up every couple days. The video of what Shart says should put this to rest a long time ago.
>>507228012That's a Brownie. Don't ever compare his beauty to a halfling.
>>507228535oh definitely, bitching about it a year after the game's release is definitely not healthy though, I think that we can all agree ITT that her writer should be neutered
>>507226489You can't convince people like nametranny of anything because their entire ego would disintegrate if they acknowledged they had lost an internet argument, even though they've been losing one almost daily for a year now. And you can't convince people like nametranny's dick riders of anything because they don't actually believe anything, and are just saying whatever they think will get them the most trans flag reactions on their discord channel.
>>507228712Bother him about the pizzas slopking!Bring up the pizzas!
>>507228743either that or this place turns into Astarion Ancunin General
>>507228743agreed. thread would be much more peaceful if the sharties simply accepted reality
>>507228961they will the second nametranny admits that Minthara flirts with shadowheart while still having feelings for the player, it's in the game, it's canon.
>>507228961Sharties need to accept the polyamory and hookery and the Minthtards need to accept 'her' 9 foot baseball bat length cock.
>>507228831Yeah I just read that bit,it was uhh..interesting. An interesting way of thinking about an example. Obviously the moral impact between eating a pizza and a menage a trois is slightly different and maybe I could say that I honestly don't give a shit if a friend of mine eats a pizza, so I don't know if the example was really fitting, here.Maybe he was just hungry at the time while thinking about the metaphor.
>>507228712>I suppose the reason why people rarely engage in these types of discussions is precisely because of the "cyclical nature" that permeates your postsIt's because it became clear a long time ago that their big trick was to just feign ignorance and autistically gish gallop their opponent into rolling their eyes and closing the tab, which they then interpret as victory and use to fuel the next bout of autism. Their understanding of an argument is literally just word vomit until the other party retires. The verbose language is required. It acts as a first line of defense. Most people will look at it, be impressed with the large volume of words and assume there must be something there. If someone does challenge one of the ideas it allows you to play and endless game of defining terms. It’s all a rhetorical smoke bomb, distract from the actual argument, because there’s very little to defend.
>>507229158I heard that's what happens when someone with a 4k calorie a day diet misses a couple meals by arguing on the internet.
>>507229068wondering aloud whether shart is a whore does not constitute flirting
>>507228712I said it's not improbable that someone would go to Sharess's Caress with Shart and Halsin. You trying to claim that is improbable is ridiculous, and I explained why. If you think it is improbable then you should argue why you think that, because as of now my explanation stands.As does the second part, which is that popularity of seeing the scene doesn't affect the content of the scene anyway, so this is an irrelevant argument. You haven't addressed the actual issue.In fact you said nothing of value in this post. Your example of going to the goblin was addressed in my previous post, where I explained that killing Halsin is avoiding the question, not changing the content of the question. I literally did address this, you just missed it or didn't understand so now you're incorrectly saying I ignored it.
>>507229353Sure that's why she invited her to her tent and said that she wants to make sure of that personally, it's canon.
>>507229250hm i think a famous austrian painter said something like that about a certain group of people before
Will minthy's cock taste like blueberry or toxic spunk?>>507229436not gonna call it Shartess caress this time?
>>507228743It's probably just people trolling at this point. The current guy is pretending to not understand object permanence because it gets replies calling him stupid. Mintharafag is correct but he's too autistic to see that people are just lying on purpose to shitpost and rile up this topic once again
>>507229250Honestly, the whole argument boils down to people here having never had any sort of relationship, and their whole idea of one comes from a greentext they read about "the nature of women" written by someone just like them. Might as well ask hobos for stock picks.
>>507229696>Mintharafag is correct but he's too autistiche is the paladin of /bgg/
>ask hobos for stock picks.kek
>>507229908he's an overweight moron
>>507229490Like me, he was right.
Can I just get the tadpole out of my head and maybe save the world, instead of being forced to f*** my party?
>>507229158you're genuinely fucking retarded. it has nothing to do with pizza it's a metaphor demonstrating that if a character is said to dream about something, they don't not dream about that thing just because you don't ask them what they're dreaming about. mintharafag has way too much patience dealing with you you are actually retarded
>>507229908no no no thats not his class>>507230119Oh be quiet and read my pizza metaphor>>507225408
>>507229908No, Paladins hate him for having a wiki editor's idea of oaths and morality.
>wiki editor's idea of oaths and morality.its the sharties trying to promote the idea of being a whore is normal retard
>>507230326That's a weird way of putting it. Could you elaborate what you mean by "a wiki editor's idea of oaths and morality"?
Astarion has never once felt the need to sleep, being an elf and all. There is simply no need to. But once he falls in love and feels safe, he finds himself falling asleep around his loved one without realizing it.
>>507230453How many trans reaction flags did you get on your screenshot?
Sigh.
>>507229503Toxic.Drow women would always pozz your neghole without telling you. Toxic loads are a must in Drow society.>>507230112I just played as an abstinent monk, it's very easy to just say no.
>>507230518i thought they physically couldn't sleep
>>507230775AI slop slander too
>>507230775There wasn't really a debate it was someone repeating himself four times in a very similar manner while an ESL retard tried to argue at him.
>>507230665they can, there's just no need to
what's the point of the ranger class if everyone agrees that a fighter makes for a better bow/crossbowman?
>>507229250Oh, I unfortunately found out about this and you are right, we once talked for 3 days straight.The next step, usually, is to dwell on some quibble to slowly shift, post after post, the topic to something else, and then finally abandon the discussion when real life takes over. He is already doing it for example, look here>>507229436Mintharafag, I never said that "going to visit Sharess Caress with Shadowheart and Halsin is unlikely": either you're confusing me with others or linking to past posts is starting to have consequences on your perception of the space-time continuum.I won't even answer the ridiculous statement that "player kills Halsin to avoid the scene and hide their head in the sand", both for the metagaming issue I've already addressed and because...come on now, lol. A new player who makes this choice cannot be rationally accused of this, which in itself is a nice logical stretch.It seems to me that this topic is difficult for you to address with the objectivity you demonstrate in other games.Cait approving my use of chems and alcohol in Fallut 4 diminishes her path to redemption when we take her to rehab? Will she always be an addict then in your eyes?It is the principle of exclusivity that Shadowheart benefits from for you that makes all this frankly embarrassing. I know I am not the first to point this out to you, and it will not be the last time.What I said is correct and present in the game, and cannot be denied: should I take your constant way of referring me to your old posts as a granite immobility in your thinking? All this would be acceptable if I conceded the fact that, incredibly, role-playing games offer different situations based on how you interpret your role. Is this such a crazy request on my part?
>>507230775It really is pathetic. I've grown to hate shartfags from visiting this thread. their waifu is written to dream of other men and whenever anyone points this out you get a tirade of that person being called random shit like fat, tranny, gay. it's so stupid and makes the people doing it look retarded
>>507231349I meanare you acting like a fat gay tranny when you bring it up?
>>507230506Wiki editors take everything as literally as possibly at all times, and usually misunderstand how human conversation and speech works in order to do that. Some character says "I'm the strongest there is!" and they're like "wow, I guess that's definite fact now, he said it", versus fags do this a lot too. Namefag is of that ilk. Very boring type of person, very dense.
>>507231424Oh, you mean powerscalers. Why didn't you say so?
>>507231239uh yeah that's my question now answer it niglet
>>507231585I did. Tomato, tomato.
>>507231653Stop saying no no words Those are unacceptable here
>>507224961Why do you keep wasting your time with something that is too stupid to entertain a real discussion?
>>507231169>dwell on some quibble to slowly shift, post after post, the topic to something elseThis happens pretty much anytime you try to discuss something with a certain type of person. They aren't really interested in the topic, or any topic, they're interested in 'winning', so the topic becomes this totally unimportant amorphous blob that can shift back and forth at any time to facilitate the feeling of said 'win'. >Oh, so you're saying [shit nobody ever said]"Ha, I've got you now!"
>>507231980>>Oh, so you're saying [shit nobody ever said]>"Ha, I've got you now!"sounds like namefag desu what are the odds this is a one man show?
>>507231980sounds like the slopfag
>>507232151Zero, namefag is probably genuinely stupid and really invested in "winning" via exhaustion, but there's a lot of flying monkeys around them that see namefag's antics as a good opportunity to shitpost and run through their scripted bot replies again. It's not one person, it's just one person who isn't in on the joke.
>Tav, every time you come in here with that boner I double my prices and every time you pay it.
>>507232354Quit assuming he's not in on the joke
Ahem missionary with Astarion
>>507232420Occasionally people will wear his name to facilitate shitposting, and those people are in on it obviously, but the real mccoy is 100% genuine in their autism.
>>507229696>The current guy is pretending to not understand object permanenceI wouldn't call the subhuman swine a "guy."
>>507232503on his grave
>>507229436Will you let it go. Why do you always argue about it. I thought you moved onto to Minthara.
>>507231169You said it right here >>507227370. Seeing this scene does not require any extra effort, it's something a lot of people will see, because most people have Shart with them and the main quest plus multiple side quests take you to Sharess's Caress.You also haven't addressed the fact that how many people see the scene is irrelevant to the content of the scene. You're wrong that it's uncommon, but even if you weren't, you're wrong to bring up the popularity of the scene at all since it's irrelevant.I didn't say a new player who doesn't know any better would do that, so reacting to me saying a new player would do that is an empty strawman. What I said was that a player who makes sure Halsin is dead in their game so they don't have to worry about triggering Shart's scene, which is something you read people advise to do here often, is just avoiding the scene, it's not actually altering whether or not Shart would dream about him if he was alive. This is because of the way the line is worded. Which we have already gone over. It's why saying "well I never heard that line" doesn't work, and it's why killing Halsin doesn't work. If ytou find yourself in a situation where Shart's opinion of threesome is asked, she will confirm that she has been dreaming of sex with Halsin more than a few times. This fact si not altered if you avoid asking the quesiton, either through avoiding the brothel or through killing Halsin. In both of those situations, you're just avoiding the topic, not actually changing what he thoughts WOULD be. This is why multiple people are making fun of you for not grasping object permanence.You have not addressed these three things then you complain about repetition. The only things being repeated are things that defeat the arguments you are repeating so they are repeated in turn, or things you have failed to address so they're repeated until you do. You are very dishonest.
Discuss
>>507232503That's an uncomfortable position for anal, the only sort of sex Astarion could have with men, because Astarion is a faggot. Canon status of missionary: not.
>>507232646CANONANON
>>507232503We heard you the first time troonsicle
and just like that slopfag has been BTFO (again)tune in again next week for the same results
>>507231882this nigger zesty af
Reminder that to the worthless pig fuck, Astarion NEVER slept with his victims. It understood this from his interaction with Sebastian. This is what I mean when I say it takes refuge in crass stupidity.
>>507232765
>>507232705She could be, you never know. What makes a frog attractive or not attractive to the other hideous frog creatures? It isn't for humans to know or understand. They have their own ways.
>>507232671>>507232664Forget Halsin, Shadowheart broke you. You write daily paragraphs about this funny brothel scene.
Guys quick check this out before the jannies get me
>>507232765missionary actually canon though in his ascended sex scene
>>507233143Its canon in both scenes. Astarion ON TOP OF ME
>>507233143With another man? Because that's the only sort of sex Astarion, a well known faggot, would canonically have.
>>507233250see: >>507232951>>507233223Sisterrr
>>507233137wow didn't know they were that bouncy
The futility of trying to troll the Astarion sisters when they see right through you and dismiss you with a meme.
>>507233358Astarionseether will never know true happiness
>>507232671>multiple peopleNTA, but I'm not sure I really believe this. It seems like the more (people) agree with you in the same verbiage they always use, the longer it takes for you to reply and verbally shit yourself again. Regardless, this sort of "well uh nobody likes you everybody knows WE WE WE" type statement is something I only ever see from really dumb people who are wrong and increasingly mad about it, they start flailing around for support like a drowning man. I don't think I've ever seen a correct person do it. Just something to think about.
>trolling astarion sistersssssssss xDhaha good one anon heres a meme>trolling mintharafags/ShartfagsRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Save kid from harpies>Save other kid from Kagha>Mol doesn't give a fuck>Stop one kid from stealing a necklace>Mol never speaks to me again
Astarionsisters are the best posters
>>507233512>>507233735Nobody is trolling them because they are the trolls, it's why they pretend to like Astarion and pretend to be women. They're the tumor and always were.
The only canon that matters is mine
>>507233891Classic Minthy/Shartfagunable to take a joke.Go take namefags cock instead
>>507232664It's fun. I like talking about bg3 and I'm happy to argue about anything. Someone brought this up again, so I'm setting the record straight when they told a few lies. The particular topic doesn't really matter to me, all that matters to me is the truth of whatever topic. There are a bunch of other topics that are less repeated that would be more fun, but there's a particular subset of poster here who deny a few facts about Shart, who require correcting when they spread their lies, which they do often, so this comes up often. Blaming me for this topic isn't correct since I respond, I don't bring it up. So point your blame where it belongs: the sharters. Asking me to ignore it would be another topic, and on that I just say that a lie left unchecked can fester, and before you know it, some innocent new player who came here for advice might be told that the brothel scene is hard to come by, or that repeatedly dreaming of sex outside of your significant other is normal, or that Shart's beliefs on threesomes are subject to the player's choice, or any of the other lies the Sharters have told today and in the past. You can't let misinformation fester on the proud streets of Baldur's Gate General.
>>507234086>I'm happy to argue about anythingNo offense, but then why are you so bad at it?
>>507234086I'm preordering ME5 as well.
It replies to itself. It begs for a crumb of attention. If it posted slop, it would be a slopswine.include:>Gribbo, pigeon masterThe original schizo. Likes to call the other posters pigeons (or apes, or rats, or other colorful animal names) that dance to its tune. Semi-WARPED by Mintharafag because it will never be them. Likes to whine about "Liarian" too (I just skip the rest of the schizobabble when I see that word).Key catchphrase is something like, "I am the most influential poster.">transphobic attack dogWill attack random posters, the Astarion sister in this case, but other characterfags are targets too. Performatively transphobic, but devoid of originality. The brazen off-topic shitposting must mean it's a ban evader.Key catchphrase is something like, "I am the only woman in this general.">basic schizoCreates shit OPs, replies to itself, spams non-swine pastas, etc. Anything to drive down thread quality.Will take on other established "personas" (like the slopswine) to sow confusion, but it's not like I needed extra reason to hate the pig.It is to be distinguished from the other schizo, that only really posts twittershit and whines about Larian writers these days. I loathe adding another metapost to the pile, but these are my findings, as someone who lurks here 16 hours a day. (See persona #2's catchphrase.)
>>507234086thank you, paladin of truth
>>507233891Why would I pretend about either. Astarion is the GREATEST character from any video game series and we are gonna make some dhampirs.
>>507234203*Based on personal pattern recognition, I believe the schizo most responsible for derailing threads lately is the one that I've nicknamed the Gribbo schizo. Some of its "personas" include:
>>507233992
>>507234390Me
>>507233891meeting neil to troll /bgg/ aha you got meee
>>507232671Mintharafag, I am being condescending with you now: nothing I have said can justify a flight of fancy to reach your conclusions. I am embarrassed that I do not understand in the slightest what you mean by "popularity of the scene", and I have not "addressed the fact that how many people see the scene is irrelevant to the content of the scene", whatever you mean, because that is not among my arguments: it is something you brought into the discussion, and that you now accuse me of having to counter. What kind of confrontation is that?As for your concept of "avoid the scene by killing Halsin", it is as if you are now starting to attribute to the characters a sort of consciousness, in the sense that they can distinguish in some way whether they die according to natural circumstances, or future planning. How can this first of all be even conceivable, moreover: do you really not think that there is any difference between the character of Origin Sharran Shart who kills her parents remaining alone in the end, and that of a Tav that romance Shart? Because your speech seems dangerously close to a sort of rejection of the various branching stories that make, in fact, a character different from his counterpart who ended up following other choices.Choices, this is what we are talking about Mintharafag: the choice to live one's own story. I'm sorry that yours has led you down this road, and I autistically understand your thought, I really mean it in the sense that I understand it: but what I'm telling you is that I understand it, well, and it's wrong.I, with all the goodwill I can put into it, do not feel comfortable having to repeat myself over and over again: you say that I have not addressed not one, but three different themes. Sigh, I have done it, providing you with examples in an exhaustive manner. To be called dishonest for doing so then, is disarming. I don't know what I expected, but it was better than >>507234086this...
>>507234361>Why would I pretend about either.When the schizo's bait doesn't work, all it has left is calling you a fake woman. That's the angle it is reduced to. Consider it a victory.
Do i bother reading any of these >>507234536>>507234203>>507234086>>507232671>>507231169>>507229436
>>507234672Honestly, no. And I'm in those posts.
Now that the pig's carcass has been drained out, do you think Godey BONED Astarion? We have to be "intellectually honest" about these things.
>>507234672>>507225408This is the only one that matters
>>507234203>ctrl-f>search for (You)>112 results>only 160 repliesTell me again I'm not the most influential person here. Ha. There's no shame in being influenced though. If you had any idea what I had done to not this board, or this site, but gaming zeitgeist as a whole, you wouldn't believe it. Jeet farms get paid to astroturf this place and act like people are having spirited debates about Liarian's hollow, fanfic cast a year later, yet they can hardly even approach what I've done with an understanding of the human mind and the role 4chan plays in the online psychosphere. Now's the part where you dance. The tune is "denial".
Who is the most schizophrenic here
>>507234947sexy frog
>>507234930Not me but im up there
>I-I-I'm the most influential poster here>L-l-look at my (You)sRefuge in crass stupidity. Not unlike the worthless pig fuck, when you think about it.
>>507235070i find it ironic you use my screenshots but you crop out the gnomes
>>507235143How is it ironic? No one wants to see your midget freak.
>>507235070Remember that time when a simple performance for half an hour had you flooding your own shill operations with piss for half a year? Yet you post goblins even now. Curious. Could it be...
>>507235259you hate them but you can't stop saving them to your pc
>>507235143Hes a faggot so are you
In all seriousness, don't you ever get tired of posting the same shit over and over, or of being a triple post ironic memed out bag of shit?
>>507235480>triple post ironic memed out bag of shit
>R-r-remember my Gribbo persona? R-r-remember when I trolled /bgg/? H-heh......Yes. It is the one I've highlighted above: >>507234203, and which you immediately react to. It's your life to waste. At least you got a lot of (You)s!
>>507235480u
>>507235684The (you)s are just a symptom. The disease is influence. And I'm terminal.
>>507234536I linked the post you said those things. Right here >>507227370.You're wrong that this speech requires metagaming, and I've already explained why. The main quest and multiple side quests take you to the brothel, and Shart is the most popular companion and most popular romance. This is why the statement you made is wrong, and you still have not addressed this.You're wrong that anyone is imposing their experience on others, and I have already explained why. We are discussing the character's words, and I am pointing out to you how they were written in such a way to be the same regardless of player choice on the matter. If Halsin is alive, and you have advanced Shart's romance, then she says this line. Shart likes group sex and has been sexually dreaming of Halsin, if Halsin is alive and you have advanced her romance. There's no choice in the matter, you have no say, you don't get to decide. If Halsin is alive and you have advanced her romance, then her thoughts on polyamory are "I've already been dreaming of it". Killing Halsin so he's not around to spark the question does not change what Shart says. This is clearly where you're having the hangup on comprehension. That's not the palyer making a choice regarding Shart's beliefs or actions, that's just avoiding the question. Because when you do ask her, her feelings are not subject to your input. That's the point here, which you still have not addressed properly. You've gone on about how there actually is choice, and I have addressed and defeated that. You have not moved on from repeating that.You keep failing to address points properly and then giving some longwinded personal attack instead. It's childish. I've demonstrated exactly what you haven't addressed and brought the conversation back to facts, and you're still doing it. You are guilty of everything you're accusing me of, the difference is I'm quoting you and I'm reiterating clearly instead of just empty accusing.
>>507235684I like Gribbo instead of you being a Silfypedo
>>507235804Cmon man we've moved onto the other schizoHave some decorum
Silfypedo in 3...2...1...
>>507235804not the anon you're losing the argument with, but your entire position is and always was that you don't understand what words mean or how people talk or why, and it's just impossible to get across to you. you can't understand until someone invents a pill for autism.
which classes have the most satisfying or interesting dialogue options?I see that berserker barbarian is #1 for volume but I suspect it's just 200 variations of GRUG ANGRY SMASH
>The (you)s are just a symptom. The disease is influence. And I'm terminal.Your "influence" is being a gimmicky schizo wasting its time here with volume shitposting. Your "influence" is nothing compared to Mintharafag. You will NEVER be them.
>>507236184Barbarians can literally make a goblin eat shit
>>507236184
>>507236061>always was that you don't understand what words meanhey what does it mean what shart says once or twice, or more than that when referring to dreaming about sex with halsin
>>507236061everything he's said is correct. trying to call him stupid when he's right just outs you as an angry shartfag upset at the person who champions the truth about her. go ahead and call me stupid and autistic too
The grass will never be green, the sun will never shine, the bird will never be the bird. Do you understand? Ha, no. Liarian sends your inbred family a bag of rice a month to NOT understand no doubt.
>>507236184my drow bard had the most reaction
>he reached act 3
>>507236184Ranger bros....
>>507236184None of them are very good. Most of the time if I have a [Paladin] option I don't take it because it's too corny and weird.
I put the egg into storage because the fat fucker weighed 20 but then Laezel complained the egg was gone so I put it into her inventory and she hasn't said anything about it. What's the go?
>>507236184I think I might have picked a bad race/class combo for unique dialogue options.Dragonborn paladin.
>>507234086>Someone brought this up againI wouldn't call the slopswine a "someone." You waste your time, and ours, when you deem it worthy of an essay-reply, or several.
>>507236660I've noticed this, paladin & bard class lines are all corny
Thread Theme>https://youtu.be/OeP4FFr88SQ?si=8hwDcIL6PrPv-bHp
>>507236395>>507236419you're stupid, but only feigning autism in service of shitposting to keep a really tired meme going, which is what makes you stupid
>>507236832:O>but your entire position is and always was that you don't understand what words mean
>>507236184>ranger is notoriously the worse martial class that only role play autist pick>least amount of special dialog Ranger fags truly are the most oppressed class.
Real Thread Themehttps://youtu.be/l5Zox5O3jh4
>>507236781Thread Theme>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkEc2V3mO4
yes, the shitpost where you greentext but offer no substance so the reader is left to assume some disagreement but without requiring you to expose your stupidity by trying to articulate it, all so you can giggle to yourself that you got a (you), where have I seen that before?oh, every fucking day here
>>507237157hypocrite alert
>>507237157You kinda sound like you're not in on the joke
Wizard seems very underpowered, in a way that bladesinger will hopefully remedy. Same as caster druid. There's just something really unbalanced in the experience about martial classes getting two actions and an often meaningful bonus action while casters get one action and nothing else. The best it gets is popping haste before battles and having the bloodlust elixir.
>B-b-birds...>P-p-pigeons...>Y-y-you're dancing...>A-Astarion is g-gay>I'M INFLUENTIAL!!!
>when you're in an ugly Tav competition and you're against mintharafag & pea
is there any point in going shar/selune cleric if you're not romancing shart? feels like all that unique dialogue is just there to pave the way to getting closer to her
It actually is pretty old at this point though, to be honest. I've beaten the game a dozen times, on every difficulty mod and self-imposed challenge. Everything has been discussed. I've played the game enough to know when a Sharter is just lying again, and it is tiresome correcting them like this over and over. I've memorized every line of dialogue, I know the location of every piece of loot. I know every fight by heart. We've watched Shart's brothel interaction again whenever a Sharter lies that it doesn't happen that way a dozen times. Sometimes I do wonder why I'm still here.The answer is that this game genuinely is game of the decade so far and I like talking about it, and I still enjoy playing it despite it being rote at this point. I personally don't mind talking about whatever, it's just a shame that Sharters tend to lie about the game to misrepresent their waifu, and a handful of trolls pick up on that and use that to troll more. This thread would be nice without those people. Anyone who tries to blame me for repetitive conversations is not seeing the whole picture.And I think the dumbest part of this whole thing is that I don't even dislike Shart. All of my playthroughs, I get her happy ending with her parents. I personally would not date someone who repeatedly over time dreams in sexually explicit ways about other men, but that's just in regards to her romance. I don't give a shit about that as soon as I'm playing a character that isn't romancing her, at which point she's just a good friend who I like helping and making happy. So the dumb thing about this is that I'm not actually some anti-Shart crusader, I'm literally just setting the record straight when Sharters, or trolls pretending to be Sharters, say shit like that doesn't happen if you don't make it happen or I didn't see it so it doesn't happen. Lies require correction and I will do that on any topic, Shart just happens to be the troll's favorite topic.
>>507236184>Wizard not Necromancywizards have nothing on sorcererchads
>>507235336I only saved one reaction picture where a pig was butchered. I cropped out your ugly midget pretty quickly. How is that ironic?
Least shitposty answers pleaseHave there been any mods worth a shit that have released in the last two monthsI do not want namefag to reply to this postI do not want slopfag to reply to this postNigga who promotes the Really Shadowheart mod do not reply to this postIndividual of trans descent who posts minthara witha cock mod do not reply to this post
>507237491>so far>for nowcould it be...
>>507237590>you hate them but you can't stop saving them to your pc
>Shart just happens to be the troll's favorite topic.We know, you're spamming about her every single thread, Manthyfag.
Wtf is even the point of playing ranger?
>>507237491I think you have autism, a humiliation kink, autogynephilla, and generally terrible taste.
>>507237263You kinda sound like a stalker. maybe THE stalker
>>507237491wow just wow
>>507237829I am IN YOUR WALLS
>>507237751I wanted to use crows for my cute twink goth ranger
>>507235349Inwe would never say that.
>>507237491Can you advise me how to progress through the game as a newbie? I've lost confidence in myself due to wiping twice at level 2 on Balanced difficulty.
>>507235804Let me understand, if I'm trying not to go crazy following your arbitrary interpretation of my words:when I say "in some cases", you are talking about some sort of "necessary circumstance": am I taking crazy pills or did you simply interpret what I said as you thought most convenient? Because it seems to me that much of this discussion has moved from the main topic of discussion ("there are player choices that prevent the situation you are describing") to instead a sort of table tennis match where in each of my statements you find a way to, as just demonstrated, simply misrepresent (at this point I must assume in bad faith) what was said to bring attention to other side arguments when it goes well, or completely irrelevant almost always.Anyways, I'll try to bring this back on track:there is no other way in the English language, or in mine, or others, to make you understand that different paths lead to different choices. Different choices cause different consequences, in which it is reasonable to assume that the outcome is different. I say "reasonable" since for you, clearly, this is not the case. Your response so far has been to reiterate that, of course, "if conditions x are met, what y happens." Which is obvious and expected in this game, given that it takes into account other circumstances that the player may follow, but it cannot be a last resort to retroactively force these outcomes onto different paths.I find it disheartening that in a previous post you claim that you "enjoy" this kind of discussion, and then have tactics to belittle, defame, or undermine the logical process of your interlocutor. Are you sure that's not the part that you enjoy?Anyway, Mintharafag: I am perfectly clear about how you feel and the way you see things, and as I have already said and will repeat more clearly now, it is a short-sighted way of looking at things and only leads to conceptually disarming conclusions, such as the nature of this discussion itself.
>>507237491You're just not very good at debate, reading, writing, or understanding the human mind.
>>507237951You are pathetic
>>507237656That's not ironic because it doesn't happen. What would be ironic is if I posted this ugly guardian while lecturing you about beauty.
List of reasons to play ranger>Beast masters bird blind is op>>>>
>>507238127That would be ironic, thank god you weren't the one who played that character
>>507237751Aragorn was a ranger, and it's all just lord of the rings anyways, so that's the idea. The implementation is really bad, and you'd be better off just making a fighter.
Imagine having a /bgg/ schizo folder *shudders*
>>507238127that's a dark urge tav that fucked the emperor aksually
>>507237491Oh, and btw, this whole thing started because Mintharafag started talking about Shart OUT OF NOWHERE..again>>507159150who the fuck does that?
I love my human wife
>>507238260I deleted mine when i realized the mental illness was winning.
>>507238260they have a discord where a mod (not a janny) hangs out
>>507238396Im proud of you
An ironic example:>there is no other way in the English languageImagine an ESL swine posturing as something that understands, let alone speaks, intelligible English.>Ah, sorry, I understand what you mean: I thought you had a genuine interest in the discussion but as usual, you're being petty about a lexical choice.>>Synonyms: copy, steal, appropriate, borrow>In the sense that Shar "stole", she "appropriated", therefore "plagiarized", through torture, the souls that belonged to her sister. But I'm sure that now in your head my entire argument is invalid because I used a lemma that you consider inconsistent.
>>507238496Thank you!
>>507238031>there is no other way in the English language, or in mine, or others, to make you understand that different paths lead to different choicesBecause you're seeing it from the wrong angle, like they just don't understand. The reality is they probably do understand, but they have a personality disorder and they can't let it go. You're right though, there's nothing you can say in any language to argue around that.
I love the frog
>>507238395She murdered a child.
>>507238847So did you
>>507238847Can you stop haunting me and my wife? Thanks.
It's crazy that you can come back half a year later and find the same people writing the same posts and still playing guess-that-anon all day like nothing happened.
>>507238127but you admitted to saving it>>507237590
Imagine being the one that posts that Mintharafag (Seranafag) collage. It really shows how one is NOT obsessed and NOT warped by the namefag.
>>507238031This isn't a question of different choices making different paths. The issue with this particular scene, as I have already said and already addresses this point, is that Shart's reaction is not dependent upon player choice. I have explained this several times, but you're still here acting incredulous that you have to explain choices and paths. It's ridiculous. Your feigned incredulity is getting old. You're still avoiding the actual point, which is that player choice is not provided in this scene. I have repeated this several times, and I will continue to repeat it despite your protests of repeating things because you have failed to address it several times: killing Halsin or avoiding the brothel are not selections in the game that have equal weight and reactivity from the game that lead to different outcomes regarding Shart's opinion on daydreaming of sex with other men. This is really simple, I have explained it before, you have failed to address it before, so I will repeat it again if you fail to address it this time as well. If Halsin is alive, and if you have progressed Shart's romance, then Shart dreams of having sex with Halsin. It doesn't matter if you don't go to the brothel to be told that she's doing this, because the way the line is written, she's doing it before you ask, and thus if you don't ask. This is the first thing I said on the topic, and you still have not actually addressed it properly, despite empty insistence that you have. If you have, then link it right now. I have already defeated your argument that there actually is choice, consult my previous post for defeating that. Avoiding the question is not displaying choice and consequence or the game reacting to choice. There's no way to have Halsin alive and progress her romance, and ask Shart her opinion without her telling you she's already been dreaming of him. The choice isn't yours.
>want to play monk so I can dole out wisdom at every opportunity>don't want to run around in pyjamas can you wear heavy armor as a monk somehow?
>>507239208
>>507239208That's me!
>>507239208namefag a tranny
>>507239284Just take heavy armor feats, but you'll look stupid.
Mintharafag WARPED this general.>>507239148What game are you playing? Are you being daft on purpose? I even apologized for including your UGLY midget in the frame the first time I posted it.https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/500122757/#500197375And I'm not perfect. I sometimes make (grammatical) mistakes and typos, which I try to correct. But I'm trying, and I have principles - one of which is not condoning ugly midget freaks. Do you understand?
>>507239598cute frog
>>507239113Well, it seems that most of the good anons left a long time ago, so the bump limit is only managed by namefag shitposter and other schizos. The threads are pretty awful overall.
>>507239113the space rpg's early access isn't coming out any time soon, calling wyll a shitty character and gale a rapist is all we have
>>507239113It's crazy that a certain subhuman swine can joke about Astarion being raped, falseflag, spam unsolicited slop, avatarfag, then still drop its daily ritual shitpost like nothing happened. Love & Harmony, though.
>>507240114Nah we still have calling Minthara a tranny and Shadowheart a stupid skank
>>507239981They were always bad, and mostly for the exact same shit today. Something about this game attracts crazy people.
Lawful good chads WARPED you.
*cums and dies*
>>507237951Watch youtube videos of other people doing it, choose a class and stick with it, look at guides on how the stats interact with abilities. If you wipe at level 2 that means you're putting all your character creation ability scores in the wrong stats. Read about which ability scores correspond to which actions and make them match up.>>507238371That wasn't out of nowhere, it was responding to others just as I said I do, and to prove that you're lying red handed I can very easily simply link the other people. Same thread, same day. The saddest part of this lie is that it only took me 30 seconds to flip to the previous thread, ctl+f poly, and just follow the link chain.>>507111815>>507111352>>507110373>>507110007>>507074845>>507074064>>507073929>>507073261
>random black NPC from the Zhentarim hideout [HEADCANON]Huh?
>>507240114>gale a rapist Not discussed enough
>>507239278Mintharafag read carefully because I will not repeat myself again.My post was born following this post of yours (>>507159150) in which, in medias res, unprompted, absolutely OUT OF NOWHERE, you start talking about Shadowheart, which is, repetitive, despite you having repeated several times, a little while ago, about "how many other topics would you like to discuss" while in fact never introducing one. Weird, but you do you.No, I decided to answer you when you said an inaccuracy, namely that "lying is the only possibility", which is in fact false, having given you several examples in which this situation does not occur. In fact, your sentences in quotation marks in the previously cited post are carefully (well, maybe) chosen to omit exactly these circumstances that I mentioned.Now, in the hope (which I already know will be unexpected) of having at least succeeded not in making me understand that it would be a lot, but in exposing the points of discussion, I invite you to at least pretend to consider having respect at least with your intellectual honesty.Shit, I don't even like Shadowheart that much.
>>507240281>canonically has a bbc junior and erectile dysfunction>laughing stock of the flaming fist>gets cucked by 90% of the playerbase>would rather adopt a kid than have one a biological one>his name became a word to describe shitty companions>chad
>>507240420so you admit minthara is ugly?
is there a dropbox or google drive with a lot of the game's dialogue transcribed, so I can search up examples for ranger or druid class dialogue?
>>507240420>That wasn't out of nowhere, it was responding to others just as I said I doIt already knows this. It's just here to waste your time, and it's irritatingly successful at doing so. You will NOT change its porcine mind. You will NOT suddenly make it intelligent enough to have a real argument with. Call it a worthless pig fuck and move on.
>>507240243the people who made the game are brain damaged to be fair
>>507240420So, it was true then...>>507074064
>>507240662>nature does that >that's not natrual >nature isn't supposed to do thatThere all your ranger and druid dialog
>>507240420How accurate is >>507237762? The autism is self evident, but I'm wondering if losing this same argument over and over is some kind of kink for you?
>Shit, I don't even like Shadowheart that much.You don't like any character. You're just a worthless sack of shit slopping up dolls for attention and occasionally joking about Astarion being raped. For all their flaws, Mintharafag actually cares about the game and its characters.
>>507240845so do any of the wisdom-based classes have wise things to say?
>>507240925>Mintharafag actually cares about the game and its characters.eeeeh
>>507240662https://bg3.norbyte.dev/search>>507240935Not really. Unwise people can't write wise dialogue.
>>507240925He cares about them as long as he gets to mod them to his liking. Whether it's their dialogue, recruitment, appearance, sexuality or even gender.
Mintharafag just cares about gooning to women.
I've got an infected hair in my nose and it's killing me. Symbolic of what it's like to try and talk about Shadowheart here.
>>507241023Alternatively, if you think like the subhuman slopswine, it just comes from a desire to posture "moral superiority.">I don't know if it's an autistic inability to understand context or an even more malignant and catty need to twist words to enjoy a moral superiority in the eyes of others, but both behaviors stink of namefag all over.Shit, I don't even like Astarion that much. But isn't mocking the character for being raped going a little too far?
helia used to have a unique naked model that's cray cray
>>507240925Rude. I care about Frog, Wyll, and Astarion. Occasionally Gale.And Jaheira especially.And I also care about some the NPCs, like Dammon. Now, I don't have a screenshot of Dammon at hand so here's Rolan. I care about him, too.
>>507241303they all did at one point, even though they ended up using standard bodies mostly in full release. the intention was probably for each companion to have custom genitals.
>>507241064>https://bg3.norbyte.dev/searchThank you. Would you mind just pointing me in the right direction of how you'd search for class dialogue? I typed [Ranger] and nothing really came up>Not really. Unwise people can't write wise dialogue.I don't know, fortune cookie truisms are very simple and are at least ostensibly wise.
Yes, yes, I do care about Astarion... but don't you think it's hilarious Godey might have BONED him? Haha. It's not a rape joke, by the way.
>>507241426I'm still mad shadowheart doesn't have her concept arts tattoos, even wyll has unique scars
>>507240464That wasn't out of nowhere, it was responding to others, just as I said I do, and to prove that you're lying red handed I can very easily simply link the other people. Same thread, same day. The saddest part of this lie is that it only took me 30 seconds to flip to the previous thread, ctl+f poly, and just follow the link chain.>>507111815>>507111352>>507110373>>507110007>>507074845>>507074064>>507073929>>507073261I am also once again notifying you that you have failed to address the point I just wsaid you have failed to address on several other occassions. I want you to link the post you claimed you made, the same post that I already asked for in this post >>507239278. Stop avoiding addressing points, and link the post I asked for and am now asking a second time for. You cannot do stuff like this then also simultaneously act incredulous about repeating things. Address the point I asked you to address, and link the post you claimed you made that I already asked you to link. Right now. It should be easy, since you made claims that you did, so do it right now. Stop saying you did it, stop pretending to be incredulous, just link what I asked for. Stop the tangents, stop the flowery language, stop the feigned incredulity. Link what I asked for, right now. You have already failed to the last time I asked, so I'm asking again.
>>507241426Gale's unique foreskin,,,,
>>507241527Women shouldn't have tattoos, it's garish.
Shit, I don't even like Shadowheart that much. Let's talk about Astarion instead.>None of the elements present in the game suggest that Astarion was ever sexually abused>Being sexually abused is not the same as being used as a prostitute to attract hundreds of victims for your master.
>>507241472Uhm, the way I see it, each class has specific tags, like>Druid - 44ac4317-4d38-4d28-80e2-94024c6e42f0Search for them and then open the full tabs? I don't know.
>>507241731evil clerics should look slutty & trashy like my highschool crushes
>>507241751>Being sexually abused is not the same as being used as a prostituteVery false
>>507241731Don't be manthyphobic, you'll make the nametranny cry.
>>507241819Shar isn't necessarily evil
It's still funny as fuck how that Astarion thing got under my skin.>Technically, it would be impossible for Godey to have sexually abused Astarion, Godey being in fact a skeleton and lacking any necessary organs.So you see, it wasn't about rape. Just a little innocent, harmless joke. About a character the swines cares about, for realsies.
>>507242109not only is she evil, her cult is retarded and is pure deviantart cringe
>>507242109See? Here's a classic bullshit lie that we used to go over way too often where someone would pretend to not understand morality and say shar isn't that bad. Much more fun that shart over and over and over
>>507242109>Alignment>Neutral evilPlease kill yourself
>>507242434Alignment doesn't exist anymore, and was always a really lame crutch.
>>507242652the only reason bg3 doesn't have alignments is because wotc asked larian to not add them because 5e is that trans & gay
>>507237491>Anyone who tries to blame me for repetitive conversations is not seeing the whole picture.You're getting blamed for falling for the same bait over and over again. Identify those that are too dishonest (the Gribbo schizo) or too dishonest AND stupid (the swine) to have a constructive exchange with, and ignore them. It's good to be honest and try to "set the record straight," but it's not always the wisest course of action. Save your (mild) autism for those that do deserve it.
>>507237491thank you mintharafag for your service
>>507242338Shar isn’t actually evil, and the idea that she is comes from people misunderstanding her role. We've already been over this - just because her domain includes darkness, loss, and forgetfulness doesn’t automatically make her malicious. People conflate "darkness" with "bad" and forget to think critically about what she actually represents. Darkness isn’t inherently evil; it’s protective, comforting even. Without it, we’d have no rest, no contrast to light, and no way to escape constant exposure. Forgetfulness? That’s healing. Loss? Painful, yes, but necessary for growth. These are neutral forces, not evil ones.Now, think about Shar’s rivalry with Selune. People oversimplify it as "good versus evil," but that’s not accurate. Shar and Selune balance each other - light doesn’t exist without darkness, and vice versa. Without Shar, the world would be chaos, all light and no cycles of rest or renewal. Shar’s not out here twirling a mustache or scheming destruction; she’s maintaining the balance that makes life function.Her followers aren’t all villains, either. They’re people who’ve experienced loss and despair, who’ve found solace in her promise of release. Forgetfulness can be mercy for someone who’s suffered enough. Shar isn’t about causing pain - she’s about helping people endure it, move past it, or even let it go.The misunderstanding comes from people projecting their fears of darkness and loss onto her, instead of seeing her as what she is: a neutral force that’s neither good nor evil but necessary. This isn’t hard to figure out if you stop and think about it. But no, people want to point at the "dark goddess" and call her evil without understanding what she actually represents. That’s the real problem.
>>507243298low IQ post that I won't even bother to read
>>507243298Mintahrafag wrote this right. The power of waifugfags to deny anything when it paints their waifu as evil
>>507241601Since you are asking so kindly and calmly, here>>507226657in one of the first posts I give you an example to explain my view of "different choices, different paths".I also want to linger on this aspect of autism here with you now, because I'm getting bored. I certainly can't give you all the examples where it can happen that Shart doesn't say the infamous l'ine, but I want to go down the rabbit hole: forgive my "flowery language" one last time.Imagine the scene, just outside Last Light Inn: Halsin opens a portal to try and save Thaniel, and with the help of Tav and others, and after a long fight he emerges victorious. Shadowheart, present in the party, now notices Halsin in a different light, maybe seeing him with a child in his arms awakens something in her, who knows. That evening, she will dream of the muscular Druid.Now, does this seem like a plausible scenario to you? After all, there must have been a moment in which Shart began to think, and what better occasion?Now I present you the same scenario, but with a different outcome: Tav unfortunately brought Gale who has no more spell slots! Karlach is surrounded by monsters and Astarion is down...alas, Halsin remains trapped. What happens now in Shadowheart's mind, will he still dream of Halsin?You see, what you don't understand is that I am more autistic than you when it comes to roleplaying. And I admit it without problems, and there are many scenarios in which all this is perfectly plausible because the game does not inform us of the thing and instead presents it to us as a hand grenade thrown into a room.I linked you the post, I gave you further light on my thoughts, I have no possibility of doing more than that.Btw here's a dialogue line where Shadowheart calls Halsin a squatter, but we're not talking about that, are we?
>she wants to destroy the world and teaches her cultists to torture and kill everything that moves but she's not evil WHY?????...SHE JUST IS OK????
>>507243298>Forgetfulness? That’s healing.One must imagine the worthless pig fuck a Sharran. It loves to forget about its own pigbabble and rape jokes when it suits it.
>>507243527In a sense
>>507242224Astarion would unionically laugh at that joke
>>507241426big dick astarion???
>>507243837realistically, it would be no dick astarion, cazador would probably find it funny to just chop it off, and it would help astarion connect with his fans
>>507243860joke character alert
Isn't it like 2 AM in Pizzaland? Surely the pig wouldn't stay past its bedtime to vomit more meaningless wordslop in /bgg/. It's a good piggy that NEVER shitposts during "American hours."
>>507244248I'm French and a woman
>>507244248how often do you dream about having sex with a pizza?
>>507243636You're not adding anything new. We've already been over the scenarios where Halsin is dead. You don't need to give another example of one of the million ways to kill Halsin, because I've already explained that killing Halsin so he's not present to ask the question doesn't change what Shart would say when you ask the question. I have said this multiple times, including in my most recent previous post here >>507239278. We have literally already been over the fact that you can kill Halsin and thus he won't be present to ask the question. That does not change the fact that when Halsin is present and welearn Shart's feelings on polyamory or daydreaming of sex with another man, we get the infamous line. We have already been over this so many times today in this very thread. This is what I'm referring to when I say you're not addressing points correctly. I ask you to address the point of the player not getting to influence what Shart says, and all you can muster is simply repeating "If Halsin is dead then he won't interact with Shart at the brothel". We know that, we've already been over that, and we already went over the fact that him not being alive to answer the question doesn't change her answer to the question when it is asked. I asked you to address the point of the player not having choices in the Shart brothel scene, and all you've done is yet again repeated that you can kill Halsin so it isn't asked. You have once again done exactly what I asked you not to do, which is repeat yourself while failing to answer the actual question asked. You have failed to do what I asked yet again. This is why I keep asking, and this is why you acting incredulous about repeating questions is so ridiculous. I will repeat every single thing you fail to address properly until you do it, and that will not stop. So here we are again: address the point of Shart's answer to the question of if she wants to have sex with Halsin relative to the player agency in that conversation.
this guy has been crying about getting cybercucked for over a year this is genuinely hilarious
>>507244542
>>507244687canon
>>507243768Nice edit, but not an argument.
>>507244542Shadowheart and Halsin fucking loudly next to you while you look Minthara in her bloodshot eyes.
Women are biologically incapable of understanding wyll as a character.
>>507245231that's because his writer is a gay man who happens to be a furry
>>507245231Men like Wyll now? Awful taste.
>>507244687The namefag has to dumb things down, and unnecessarily repeat them, like a grade school teacher speaking to a child. Even that might not be enough to get through the thick skull of the drooling half-wit they're replying to. It's easy to game that "IQ estimator" by the way, so that doesn't even say much.
>>507244542I have much less patience than you. when he smugly says that if halsin is dead then the brothel scene is different I would have given up on him long ago. he's genuinely too stupid to follow the conversation. he's clearly not even listening to you
>>507244542What I'm trying to explain to you, stubborn namefag, is that since there is no certain moment in the game in which Shadowheart (not even in her Origin) finds herself dreaming and fantasizing about Halsin, there are instead several moments in which that thought may simply never have formed. The only certainty we have, and that yes, if Halsin and Shart are both present, she will say the line. Halsin at the camp, and Shart present? No line.It's literally that simple. Halsin kidnapped by Orin before visiting Sharess Caress and Shart present? No line.All this without considering a thousand other, possible and even more autistic variations of the type "Shart was embarrassed and didn't know what to say and her Sharran training took over", or "She never really thought before but wants to take advantage of the opportunity anyway". There are many events in which it is easy to refute your initial statement, surely you don't expect me to list them all now, do you? This attitude of yours of "I want you to do this, tell me exactly this thing now" is very annoying.>>507244248Yes but what about the holiday celebrations for the birth of our lord Jesus Christ?
>>507245518Sounds very low 90s to me.
>>507245518>>507244687Isn't using analysis tools to define IQ itself a sign of a low IQ?
>It's literally that simple.Porcine headcanon vs the lines in the game, as written by a hack.
>>507245745>trying to explain to you, stubborn namefag
>>507245889Obviously not, but you wanted to make your "no, you!" post, and now you have.
>>507245889So is misusing (apparently confusing) verbs like "plagiarize" and "gaslight," or lacking the concept of object permanence. Did you know that if you kill a character, they are no longer alive?
They're STILL GOING
>>507246546One of them, you can filter. The other? You deserve to suffer its wordslop. Love & Harmony, though.
>>507246456You forgot the obligatory cute piggy pic btw. Hey wait a minute, are we at the part where you get mad at me for talking to (You)r "friend, yet?
>>507245589I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming there is a language barrier. I've very explicitly covered avoiding the brothel or not taking one of them or killing one of them so that the question is never asked in the scene, so for him to say at this point in the conversation this late that if he's dead then the scene would be different, clearly there's a language barrier. No rational thinking person would still be talking about ways to avoid the question instead of addressing the question itself, so it must be a language thing. Give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes.>>507245745Ah, you're listing various ways to avoid Halsin asking the question at all again. Weird. We've been very clear that that is not relevant to the answer to the question when it is asked. As I've said about a dozen times. So when you got incredulous earlier about me repeating things to you, and now you find yourself still talking about ways to avoid Halsin's question rather than discussion the answer to the question, do you not find it odd that through your actions of discussing ways to avoid the question, I find myself needing to remind you yet again that we're not talking about ways to avoid the question, were talking about the question itself and Shart's answer to it. So now that you've brought up something unrelated to the question again, and you've gone on a tangent about ways to avoid the question rather than discussing the question itself, are you going to act incredulous gain when I repeat that we're aware there are ways to avoid asking the question at all, and that we are instead interested in Shart's answer to the question when it is asked? Are you going to act incredulous again, when it's clearly your fault that we're having to repeat things?So when you complain my instance upon certain links and certain direct answers, do you not find it odd that you did not, and still have not, given what I asked for? Why do you think I ask in such a way?
I thought Mintharafag and I were one and the same? How can Mintharafag be my friend, when they are already me? This is so confusing!
>>507246982If you were doing something more meaningful than losing the same arguments every day about a video game, I'd say this kind of tenacity was admirable.
>>507246982>I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming there is a language barrier.You know very well that the issue runs deeper than struggling to parse English. It's an intellect barrier. It's a species barrier.
>>507246982this is like the third time he's said something completely fucking stupid that didn't even follow from what was said. when are you going to realize this guy is genuinely too stupid to have this sort of debate with
>come on me you totally won already you should just stop me that way I have a ready made out for when I get too frustratedI think I've seen this movie before
>>507246761I wasn't complaining about filtering I was complaining about the patheticness of both,,,all three parties
>>507247749>I wasn't complainingOh, good. You don't want to earn a nickname for complaining.
want to multiclass paladin-cleric so I have tons of dialogue options including [Paladin of Deity] ones. what's a good split? 10 cleric 2 paladin? 11/1?
>>507248386just download the deity mod
>>507248556mods fuck up honor mode flagging
>>507247872Yeah I wouldn't want to be known as a thread persona
>>507248712you can get the achievement just by having the script extender, and the dice are a mod themselves
Thoughts on this place?
>>507248386Both the splits you listed are fine; I'd consider Cleric 6 / Paladin 6 too. Spending only 1 or 2 levels in Paladin makes the [Paladin of Deity] roleplay you're going for ring hollow.
you only get heavy armor proficiency from paladin if you start off as one, not if you take one later, right? how does that work?
>>507249858war cleric gets it too
>>507249858>you only get heavy armor proficiency from paladin if you start off as oneYes, the first level need to be Paladin.
>>507250080does it only apply to heavy armor? I dont understand this mechanic
>>507250148https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Classes#MulticlassingRead the wiki.
>>507249204hateit's why I don't have more than 5 playthroughs
>>507249204No one wants to see that. Do you understand?
>>507256168That's what your mom used to hear whenever she took you outside
can you at least spoiler tag that thing?
let this be me
touch da pookie
>>507258467you dropped pookums
*has an X-rated daydream* *boyfriend dies of a apoplectic seizure*
>>507259352Built for BHC
I think we all schizo post from time to time and thats why it's all so entertaining.
Heya! It's me, Imoen!
>>507261831spooy
>>507261690What is it about simply being yourself that scares you so much?
>>507261890Help me stepbro I'm stuck in Spellhold
>>507262067myself is just posting. it gets the demons out
>>507246982Dear Mintharafag, there is no language barrier, the only barrier if you want is the intellectual one that stands as a fortress of your ideas. Your snarky remarks in reiterating actions that I have already implicated you as dishonest, only makes me think that you want to take me for a ride to be entertained.I have already illustrated to you how some of your different points that you believe "to have covered" are instead not only refutable. You complain about a lack of a timely response, but you received the timely response hours ago, discarded it as inconceivable, hence your intellectual barrier mentioned earlier, and then proceeded to complain about the fact that the discussion is recursive.Your initial statement is simply made, denied by the facts of the game; your conclusions regarding some of the characters' actions are superficial, demonstrate poor knowledge of the mechanisms of people and, wanting to give you the "benefit of the doubt", they would seem to be purposely fabricated to omit situations, already mentioned, that refute them.I have presented you with game situations that you arbitrarily consider "weird" and "not relevant", and I should continue this pantomime in which you decide what you consider profitable for the discussion, or not?Consider yourself lucky that I had to get out of bed to do a big, nasty Patch 5 before hotfix 12, so I could write you this answer.
Remember when the worthless pig fuck denied shitposting during these hours because it would be long asleep by that point?>American hours used to be bad, now they are bad and dead. Sad.Must be another falseflag.
>>507263580I'm literally shit posting in the sense that I'm posting from my toilet. It all began with an innocuos, succulent chinese meal...
>I am literally shitposting.We have archived evidence of that.https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/505602656/#505826270Must have been another falseflag.
Never forget Gortash rape
>>507263758hoily fuck you're so dastardly
>>507263839I'm annoyed the Emperor is just some rando bozo flayer and not an actual Emperor.
what are the most broken builds in your opinion?
>>507264583Fighter 10 / War Cleric 2.
>>507264781What's broken about this? It just seems efficient more than anything.
Your Honor, it was a daydream. A harmless fantasy. Surely- *loud rapping of the gavel* SILENCE, FOOL! SILENCE!!! I WILL HAVE SILENCE!!!! *heavy breathing* I will have order. *stands up and brushes himself off* Well then. Now that I’ve proven you factually incorrect and…these…. people.. *absent mindedly gesturing to the jury* have no discernable purpose, I am ready to make my judgement. *smiling* DEATH. I sentence her to death! …N-no you may not approach. Get away from me. Get away. GET AWAY CAN’T YOU SEE THAT I’M THE JUDGE HERE?!!? *smacking gavel on the desk* BACK TO YOUR SEATS, ALL OF YOU!!!!!
>>507265836you rapscallion
>it was a daydreamSubtle. Mintharafag will fall for this.
>>507266048can you at least spoiler tag that thing?
Killing Karlach doesn't really feel natural. If kind of feels like the writers want you to know you just axed their OC insert.
Theoretically if I made a mod called shadow shart, would you guys download it? Basically shadowheart has a chance of sharting and you can throw her browned underwear for a chance to inflict poison
playing a real crpg made me realize just how shit bg3 actually is
>playing a real crpg made me realize just how shit bg3 actually is
>>507267991still like bg3 but yes
>>507267780Based The Veilguard enjoyer
playing bg3 made me realize how shit wotr is
>>507243298Didn't read; the shadow magic that's killing people and turning them into zombies and shadows is Sharran in nature. Freeing Nightsong is the correct choice regarding the goal of defeating the Absolute.
>>507243298Chat, is this real?
>>507243298>Shar isn't evil>Kidnaps children and tortures them to join her cultlmao OK.
Would the cleric rank 10 devottee's mace be the most lore accurate armament for a Selunite cleric?
>>507267780Based Rogue Trader player
>>507276358>Laying down and staring into each others eyes. They fixate on this a lot. Some lonely virgin wrote this scene as their ideal apex of romance.
>>507243298Except evil is a cosmological reality in forgotten realms and she falls in the evil category objectively. Sounds like you do too.
>>507276810Femcel probably
>>507278504Modern writers are really unprofessional. It's so disconcerting seeing the degenerate behind the curtain, so to speak.
>>507277223You're replying to an AI-generated post.
>>507276810When I used to do social work I noticed autist consider eye contact the apex of romance because they can't look people in the eyes.
>>507276810>They fixate on this a lot.because it takes 5 seconds to animate that
which mod is better for level cap https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/570orhttps://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/377im inclined to the first one because i really dont trust modders to balance new gameplay changes
>>507280073Romance used to mean something. Now it's just basic human interaction.
>>507225064>>507225138>>507231935Not from this general but it's clear he knows what the implication is. He just doesn't like the idea that his preferred waifu is cuckbait. It's that simple. He doesn't like the other characters because frankly shadowheart and astarion get the most attention, and they both want to bang the bear guy but only shadowheart has dialog about dreaming about it beforehand. Note how they'll only bang if you join in, but he can't stand the thought of his precious shadowheart banging anyone else. No one copes this hard about gale despite him clearly still wanting to bang mystra and being obsessed long after you romance him. No one copes this hard about the "i literally fucked beast aliens btw" lae'zel. It's specifically shadowheart because she's the generic waifu. She's THE main waifu female character. The Morrigan, the yennefer, the bastila shan, the yshtola rhul, the ranni the witch of this game. And he just can't help but mald that despite all of the special attention, she has undeniable negative aspects to her character others don't have.
>>507282673factual
Never read a book before soulja don’t plan on it now
>Not from this general but let me chime in 10 hours later with some incoherent rambling
>>507283002namefag has been samefagging for a literal day
I am going to have sex with Minsc and Jaheira
>>507283186and boo
>>507283002I come from a similar general with coping waifufags. /erg/ who refuse to acknowledge that ranni or marika are shitheads but for different reasons than shadowheart
>>507283197Boo will sit in the cuck wheel
>>507283286
>>507246982My question is, why is he so mad about it? They don't have sex unless you specifically join in during the brothel scene. I'd yet the anger if she was stated to have banged him but that's never stated. Simply that she's dreamed about it. I dream about fucking people all the time but I haven't cheated on my wife. If my wife offered a threesome with another chick I'm into I'd jump at it but I wouldn't go behind her back. It's like the guy you're arguing with doesn't understand basic sexual attraction and can't seperate wanting from action.
>>507283186BG2 girl tiersAerie > Viccy > Jaheira
>>507283426>Shadowheart disapproves
>>507283426>If my wife offered a threesome with another chick I'm into I'd jump at itkill yourself
>>507246982Don't care about shart. Minthara isn't a lesbian btw. She just comes from an extremely gynocentric society. She's bi and simply thinks men are subhuman unless you're a demigod like durge
>>507283539minthara sucks a mean cock there's no way she's a lesbian
>>507283426Anon have you noticed your hypothetical involves a sexy woman you are attracted toAnd not a huge man you’re not attracted to who has been flirting back and forth with your wife for a couple weeks
>New player here...>Not from this general but...>If my wife...It's not even trying anymore.
>>507283671Mantharafag's POV
>>507283501Yeah. Again. If my wife wanted a threesome with people and someone who I wanted to bang was right there and she said "no not them" I'd disprove too>>507283518You are a virgin. You have a skewed view of love and romance in your head. You do not understand basic human sexuality or romantic interest. Want a redpill you'll never EVER swallow? Most couples idolized in the past, including your relatives, wanted to bang other people. It's a natural human trait. If given the chance many would if their partner insisted on it. And regardless both parties have fantasized about it, what makes it immoral is acting on it in a way that harms your gf/bf. Which shadowheart doesn't do. You claim to love her but like mintharafag said you reject basic parts of her character. This is why you shadowheart fans are so upset, you don't understand anything beyond your fictional view of the world.
Is Astarion a rapist?
>decide to play along with the goblin shaman>gives my elf character a sleep pointStupid goblin.
>red pillHow long until it starts dropping the incel buzzword? And what does that have to do with BG3?
>>507283671Adults flirt with eachother in the real world. Even in conservative time periods. My grandfather grew up in nazi Germany late in its existence, he told me stories of how people acted and it isn't much different from how i or you described. Basic lust is and will always be there. She doesn't act on it without your permission. I don't see why you people are so bent out of shape by basic sexuality or why you can't jusy pick another waifu if you legitimately think you're being cucked
>>507283786>nametranny's projecting his virginity>againMinthara wants to eat out shadowheart's stinky pussy while still being romanced by the player, it's canon. It's in the game. Denying it is denying reality.
>>507283786>you have a skewed view on relationships>it’s fine to have a threesome where only one person wants the other participant thereIt is entirely possible you have autism>>507283816>tries to bite you in the middle of the night>literally kills you unless you physically stop himGee idk anon
>>507283950>grandfather grew up in nazi Germany late in its existence So your grandfather was complacent in war crimes? You have no judge on morality, nazi spawn.
>>507283816>clearly stated that drinking blood makes him horny>tells you that you were his firstgee I don't know
>>507283970I have no interest in the female characters of baldur's gate 3. That's fine by me. >>507283975Yes. Because in that scene you're clearly showing you aren't there for strict monogamy wanting to sleep with literal prostitutes. If your partner is expected to acquiesce why can't you concede to their wants either? Like it or not she wants to fuck him. Like it or not you in that scene want to fuck the twins. If you get to fuck who you want then she can too. Either accept that or stick with monogamy but also accept that she still wishes to fuck others but won't like 99% of people. You genuinely seem like a gachacuck
What even IS mintharafag's point? I don't want to read wordsalad
>>507284561>video toy character cucked me and I'm so fucking bitchless I will rant about it for years to come
>>507284618But he's been pretty anti shadowheart for ages right? It seems like he's making fun of cucks not that he's one
>>507284693his previous name used to be Shadowheartfag before the game released, connect the dots
>>507284169Lol fuck off dumb kikePeople like you make me want to be a holocaust denier
>>507284693Yes. That's the point. Look at the fgo general. There's a melufag there who turned super anti melu after the official artist drew a yuri ntr doujin with her for fun. Waifufags will turn on their waifus and argue against other fans of them when they feel they've been "cucked". Every argument made against shadowheart we already know. Most of us don't care. He clearly picked minthara not out of genuine love for the character but a backup to shadowheart. (That's even funnier because he plays a lesbian despite minthara explicitly saying she wanted kids so his lesbian tav is getting cucked anyway unless minthara magics up a cock and rapes her)
>>507284468>gachacuckTry speaking English anon
I hate gnomes
>>507285014I want to rescue Thulla and make her safe to mother my children
>>507284734>>507284918So it's "my former waifu dreamt of sex with someone else so now I'll dedicate my time to shitting on her"?
>>507285142sure seems like it even though Minthara is just as bad
>>507285142Bingo
>>507285014Astarion….
Wood elf ranger>>>everyother races rangers
>>507285185How so?
>>507285239Human gunslinger >>>> every other bow user
Why wasn't there a drizzit cameo?
>>507285201>assassins alacrity>no levels in rogue
>>507285345bg3 is a terrible sequel
>>507285142>>507285185>>507285201Note how he constantly mentions in different ways "she never acts on it unless you go through the orgy but she still dreamt of it" in various ways but still the same pointHe tries to argue often "its just basic human sexuality" and it reads like cope every time. Not even because he's wrong but because he's always clearly projecting his own anger on those he's arguing with. He's saying very basic things only a middle schooler would find noteworthy like it's a gotcha. Because ultimately he's arguing against a version of himself he projects onto others. He keeps seeing seething shartfans in the shadows because he's seeing his own shadow.
>>507285403The Deadeye subclass of Gunslinger has Assassin’s alacrity
>>507285478Trvth Nvke
>>507285276>>507284918What's said here. If you play a female character you're getting cucked or raped by futa cock. She establishes she wants kids and you'll either "my wife's son" it or get impregnated by her. There's no real in between here. It's less bad if you play a male but if your character lacks a cock it's ntr or rape
>>507285478I actually didn’t mention anything other than confirming anon’s suspicious about mintharafag. I don’t romance anyone as my character is there to save the world, not worry about high school drama. If I want a wife I’ll get one after.
Is there a best girl in act 3? So far I like Mizora and Kagha most. I kinda like Mayrina, as stupid of a bitch as she is at least she's loyal and devoted. Shadowheart is a mess of abandonment issues and has no core personality asides from maybe being a cheeseball becuase the fingerguns interaction with her is the only interaction I've had that isn't directly or tangentially related to her faith or lack of identity. So she has the potential to be cute. Lae'zel is boring and Karlach is a reddit one-liner encyclopedia. Minthara is a bit meh and being neither lolthite nor seldarin leaves her as only an archetypal and basic drow.Wyll and Halsin really should have been women. Hot white women. Wylla should have been a tomboyish daughter to the Duke who was raised as half a boy, because she wanted to do it, and was capable enough to, though her father neglected her emotional upbringing, leaving her inexperienced and naïve enough to entreat with the devil, but knowledgeable and skilled enough to use that power to her own ends, demon traps not withstanding.Haelsey should have been a mother bear type character, broody over her percieved failure in the shadowlands and thus overwhelmingly maternal in other matters in ways the irk more hardline druids like Kagha who are really just jealous of her enormous tits, too big for a wood elf. Described as a meddlesome cow, her absence from the grove would be met much the same, but her encounter in the goblin den would be much more archetypal of a vengeful mother bear, and she's be even less reasonable than halsin currently is, not giving you a stealthy option, but going out paws blazing as she learns the goblins are tied to the shadow curse somehow. You'd have to rescue her from combat as she charged into the encounters sequentially.
>>507285641Mizora is one of the only good things about act 3
>>507285583Nta but I'm gonna romance you
>>507285641Imagine the smell of this poster
>>507285765Are you a writer for Larian?
>>507285874not fat or bald enough
>>507285909But you said my scent makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand and your frog lips wet, or something.
>>507285874Yeah I’m John
>>507286036and yet you look like a snack
>>507286070I'm a full course meal *rips bara shirt open revealing the claw marks I earned from fucking animals*
>>507285478So instead of just going "eh she dreams about the guy so what she isn't sleeping with him because i didnt do that 5some and lives in a cabin with me" like most here or elsewhere go he has to spend over a year arguing the same thing over again? Are we even sure other people are arguing with him and that he's just not samefagging or getting baited repeatedly?
>>507286341think of it this way: if it didn't happen why is there a mod to "fix" shadowheart?schrodinger's cuck
>>507285185>minthara is just as bad Not involved with this discussion but how exactly?
>>507286412There's a mod for a lot of things. But that's not my question, my question is why is he so obsessed with cuckshit?
>>507286435Minthara Baenre pleases old drow women for money
>>507286412fun fact:people gave a ton of donations to the modder too, the highest was 250 buckaroos>>507286584because he's a fat loser
>>507286656GIWTWM
>>507286656That's fine by me I'd join her frankly
>>507283970Interesting verbiage
>>507286706So it's the typical seething cuckshit obsessed retard that plagues everything nowadays. Like those right wing guys who never shut the fuck up about interracial cuckolding.
>>507286979You mean you'd kiss the inner thigh of an old drow woman who might look 20 but is actually 20,000 years old? And you'd do it for money? Whore, lol I bet you'd do it for free. I bet you'd fight minthara to be the first to slip your tongue before the dusky pink lips of a drow noblewoman, tighter than she has any right to be
>no option to fuck Alfira’s corpse>no option to behead companions and fuck them>no option to behead, preserve, and cook companions for Durge healing>no option to adopt a catLol, THIS is goty?
>>507287072.>>507287119bg3 lowkey needed more rape
>>507286656So? That doesn't seem bad. She's still my wife and we will have many children together. Actually taking away discussion from namefags for a minute. If durge and minthara have kids like she plan, even if durge rejects bhaal, wouldn't those kids be future bhaalspawn? I know she has a near suicidal plan to take parts of the underdark but she seems kinds stupid even outside of that.
>>507286656>>507286979>>507287075>>507287184Funfact, it's canon to lore that drow women sleep with their daughters. That means that minthara has lesbian sex with her mom. >but minthara is wholly dedicated to me now she'd neve-She'd force your daughters with her to have sex with her too, infact she'd likely force you into orgies with her and your own daughters. If you're durge you're unironically making an entire new wave of inbred bhaalspawn with her.
Which Paladin oath is the easiest to break?
>>507284561It's rather simple. To paraphrase, for Mintharafag, the way that Shadowheart expresses openness toward polyamory is poorly implemented, contradicts previous characterization, and blindsides the player. So not only is that rather poor writing that comes off as forced, or the writer's barely-disguised fetish, it also robs the player of any say about how they can perceive or guide the relationship.Most of this can be applied to Astarion too, but that's another character. This is an opinion shared by most people, I'd wager, including those who download Really Shadowheart. So we're in a situation where Mintharafag actually has a reasonable and common opinion, but still derails the thread every time because thread drama fuels the trolls. The way polyamory is implemented is appealing to only maybe 0.5% of the playerbase, and is off-putting for everyone else. Hardly controversial.
>>507286341>he's just not samefagging or getting baited repeatedly?A certainty. Sometimes the most nefarious among us, true so called schizos of great cunning, will direct chatgpt write logically incoherent but long-winded posts in their name, and post them as the namefag, forcing the thread to discuss something other than what shills have directed us towards. Or so I hear.
>>507287361Devotion, just stab an npc
>>507287184>She seems kinds stupid even outside of that."I will trust you rely on subterfuge instead of busting me out of prison guns blazing and slaughtering the entirety of the Moonrise towers out of caution, and not COWARDICE because your a weak BITCH" - Minthara
>shillsI wonder *what* could be behind this post.
>>507287396That's a nice skin colour, what one is it?
>>507287739Midnight Symphony
>bg3 lowkey needed more rapeYour average subhuman that in the same post slanders the namefag, everyone.
>>507287341DROW OYAKODON UOOOHHHH
>>507287396Many npcs express openness to polyamory in retarded ways. Not just shart. The issue with shadowheart however is that, other npcs are like "oh you slept with them damn I'm kinda uncomfortable but it's alright" shadowheart is the only one that actually shows a want of it in a way that feels like cuckolding to retards "hey you wanna sleep with these whores? Well this guy who's been in our party I wanna bang if we're being polygamous so can he join too" It's poorly written but mintharafag is also very clearly an ex shadowheart simp malding
>>507287341>>507287842Minthara is very clearly a defective drow in many ways. It's true they bang their daughters but she is also very clearly very possessive. It's entirely possible she'd force you to sleep with your daughter then murder your daughter out of jealousy. Whatever plans she had would've been ruined by her own drowery
Do we like this soon to be durge
>>507288168No.
>>507287842If you read the lore a lot of drow families are essentially lesbian harems with the head being the master of it. Minthara almost certainly served as her mom's sex toy, and due to her obsession with you, and her own statements you'd be the head of whatever house she tries to build thus she'd likely force you to bang your own daughters.
>>507288074>tfw you will never work with your bro butler (she wouldn't ever allow a maid) to steal your kids from Minthara so they can be raised in a healthy environment and then gaslight her into believing that yet another enemy has assassinated her child, but then you distract her with more baby making sex
>>507288307>tfw you will never surprise her 200 years later with an entire fighting force built up of your children, arduously trained in magic and blade and all fiercely loyal, if understanding that their mother is a little lolth-touched in the head.
>>507287184>I know she has a near suicidal plan to take parts of the underdark but she seems kinds stupid even outside of thatShe's hilariously stupid, with her plans to betray everyone she comes across at some point or another. It's what makes her a good match for rogues, who are still evil enough to keep her happy but can actually use their brain.>>507287638>attack the shadowfell cursed on sight>she approves>talk them into killing themselves>she approves>call her out on her dumb pride getting her into shit>she approves but tells you only she's allowed to recognize her flawsShe's an easy girl to please, just a big old adorable retard.
>>507288436>She's an easy girl to please, just a big old adorable retard.I really don't mind her. I guess there's just a cultural difference between a human bimbo and a drow bimbo.
Also what the fuck even is minthara, why do you find her in light armour and dual wielding maces as a paladin. Did her parents never teach her to minmax?
The Deadshot and crit reduction with sharpshooter or the Titanstring bow and gloves of hill giant strength?
>>507286412>>507287396>>507286706They clearly tried to "have their cake and eat it too" with monogamous and polygamous options. There's plenty of mods to "fix" the polygamy too it's so inconsistent with most characters. Even on console there's two different mods that attempt to fix it
>>507288645Titanstring would give you more sustained output, no? Do the crater gloves work with ranged attacks?
>minthara is an evil retard that will force you to have daughters with her that she will then force you to fuckAre all drow like this or is she special needs
>>507288786>have their cake and eat it toowanting to please everyone is how we got retarded additions like the shadowheart parents & vampire spawns dillemas being nothingburgers and minthara getting to join the player no matter what they decide to do about the tieflings & the goblins, you can really feel that the C-team was in charge of the post-release support
>>507288626I doubt she was originally intended as a companion, it's fucked how little content she has in chapter 2, even if you go straight for her at the start and ignore everything else. Her gear is fine for the role I suspect she was intended to play (the villain of act 1).
>>507288626Stealth is important for a Drow in the Underdark. Minthara wearing a Spidersilk armor rather than a clanky full plate makes perfect sense, and also honors her spider goddess. Two maces also means two chances to bash a heretic's skull (Divine Smite optional). It's an okay build.
>>507288905She might even be intelligent for a drow. It's just that all drow are retarded.
>>507288626Her armor is pretty neat for a caster, advantage on concentration so early in the game is nice. I usually swap it for the Sparkswall pretty early tough.
In honor of lesbian day im officially proclaiming the following videogame characters as 100% totally canon lesbians:Zarina Kassir - DbDMoira O’Deorain - OWShadowheart - BG3Minthara - BG3Lisa Sherwood - DbDHuntress - RoR2Thank you for your time
>>507289306& Wyll - BG3
>>507289296It stayed on my shart until I got the dwarven armor with +2 con. I figured 19 AC and +2 con was better than advantage. She was just eating too much shit being a war cleric.
>>507288905All drow are like this. It's lore that's a bit controversial but they're all about power either being a servant or a master because of how they were made on a spiritual level. Even good drow use this inate drive but they use it to help others. Despite her words minthara knows she can't escape worshipping a god, be it lolth, the absolute, or bhaal, it's why in the end she chooses a god of her own, one that she has a more personal connection with, one less likely to screw her over, you. In the end she's just another drow, instead of her mother or lolth as her master it's you. She just knows you're a master that values her unlike the others which is why she loves you both religiously and romantically(at least as close as a drow can get).
>>507289451Clerics get the Luminous Armor shortly after and that's arguably best in slot tough
>>507288905>>507289167>>507289541So do i have to play my female drow paladin like this too? How would that "master servant" dynamic work for a lawful good character that romances gale
>>507289662>AfterDwarf armor is act 2, radiant is act 1Also with this armour she'd have 17AC. And would need to deal radiant damage twice to everything that wants to hurt her in order to be at the same baseline as the dwarf armor, and she wouldn't have +1 strength checks or +2con or -1 pierce damage.
>>507289662I use mods to just give me the good parts of it already
>>507289785At least for gale wouldn't it be as simple as wanting to replace mystra as his object of obsession and worship?
1 hexblade lock, 2 fighter, 5 paladin, 4 shadow sorc. Based?
>>507288825Deadshot is more accurate with sharshooter
>>507289785Just ignore any "lore expert" who acts like races are monoliths. Not even the so-called Lolth-sworn Drow are all the same. Minthara is not Araj is not Sendai is not Viconia. Imagine reducing the depth of your roleplaying to just the race on your character sheet.
>>507290290Ever thought of pushing your anti-racism on Reddit instead?
>>507290290>Minthara is not Araj is not Sendai is not ViconiaLet's break this down:>MintharaRetarded>ArajRetarded>SendaiRetarded>ViconiaRetardedChecks out to me.
>>507290290 But I like the idea.
So now that we know minthara is evil and retarded do you guys like evil retarded women or something?
>>507290850>evil retarded womenluv 'em simple as
>>507290850Yes. I love good retarded women too. It's why I also love karlach
>>507290850Yes. They don't have to be retarded but it's essential that they're evil and scheming at the very least. Retardation is just a cute point.
>>507291212She's too retarded.
>>507291478Yeah. That's how women should be.
Stop being mean to drow they're not retarded! They're smarf!
Lot of angry incels here tonight
>Minthara: Do you have elder siblings, wizard?>Gale: You're about to say something awful, aren't you?>Minthara: In Menzoberranzan, after a house has two sons, every subsequent male-born child is slaughtered at birth, as it is useless, even for breeding.>Minthara: You have the aura of a third child about you.
>>507292520>minthara will make you fuck your daughters >minthara will make you kill most of your sonsUm mintharabros?
>>507292584>Minthara will make youno she won’t because I’m the Absolute
>>507292391No I just think minthara being incestuous with durge and their offspring is funny
>>507290850Why would I like minthara? She’s ugly and her voice is grating.
>>507285345Nobody except boomers remembers who that is
>>507292835No you just hate women because you're an ugly virgin and always will be
>>507291546True, let me rephrase. She talks too much. Also her excited bouncy puppy routine is very fake and annoying.
>>507290005If enemies are close together they get hit by eachother's Radiating Shockwaves when you Spirit Guardians, they stack up instantly. Also you have to consider that by applying Orbs you're not only "increasing" your AC, but the entire team's as well.
>>507293274That's the charm. My gf used to act like that before we had kids now she's just gloomy
>>507222984Get on making hypnosis sex mod mod chads
>>507293364>they get hit by eachother's Radiating ShockwavesOh shit, didn't know that. You know what, you raise a good point. And I forgot each instance of radiant damage was actually 2 stacks, plus I think it doubles with the ring, so if you can just land one round of damage that's +4 AR on you.>>507293412Give me your gloomy retard and you have karlach then
>>507290070>Just cheat lolMight as well remove the party limit, set your level to 20 and play on Explorer difficulty then.
Is there any point equipping Shart with any weapon that isn't the blood of Lathander? It's so fucking good.
>>507293717shart gets the shart spear and any thing else is false
>>507293545No. Someday I'm going to ask her to cosplay as karlach.
>>507293792>No.Then she aint all bad being gloomy, is she?
>>507293717It's not a caster weapon, and you shouldn't be meleeing stuff as a Cleric. Blood is nice on a martial and as a glowstick early on in the Shadow Cursed lands, but on a Cleric I would use Melf's first staff and later on other caster staves any day of the week.
>>507293902Of course. I just miss when she was happier. PPD sucks
>>507294084Do you want relationship advice from a KHHV on 4chan?
>>507294258Sure
>>507293694Sure, why would I care what you do
>>507294305Make time for yourselves and remind her that just because she's the mother of your children now doesn't mean she's not still your girlfriend.
There's something about this general. Even the namefags that derail the thread. Even the people that make the same arguments 24/7 for years. There's something comforting about this place. You guys are like family but I also genuinely hate you all but I love you too.
>>507294382I'll try thank you.
Who should I "save" (kidnap) from Last Light Inn before killing Isobel?>Dammon for gear>Wulbren and Barcus for their act 3 questDo the Tiefling kids always make it out of it alive?Is the Gauntlet of Shar a safe space to drop them?
>>507294617idk, take it with some salt
>>507294641Can't
>>507293717Devotee’s Mace, and slap the epic blade ward gloves on her
>>507294419In each of us is more than what we are;Parts and multitudes that form our thoughts, desires, nature itself.Manifold are the creatures inside you - and what you can become when you speak my words is all your parts made manifest.Your weakness can become strength if it is made legion: quaking hearts can find courage in their numbers, the lowliest vermin can humble a goliath if they stand as an army, and a ruin can become a kingdom for one soul made many.Speak Itori mustag thrice.Become your finest self - all of them
>>507294419>namefags>sWe know no namefag but the namefag on the spectrum whose waifu is Minthara.
>>507296578Wow I see how it is
Yes, do post the same tired shit as every other day
>>507296578bruh
>>507296578Kys
I'm back
How do I politely tell Lae’zel and Karlach that I’m not interested in dating anyone so I’ll be taking Jaheira and Minsc in my party from now on?
Love my ranger hellwife
>>507298579They'll just be happy that weirdo isn't bothering them anymore
>>507298639Alfira...
>>507299189Belongs to her tiefling queen, my wife
What face do you think is better for a lawful good fighter/paladin that romances astarion
>>507299269Top looks like she's old enough to settle for Asstard and also has enough baggage to go for him. Plus she looks more serious and experienced, making her lawful good out of desire not naive optimism. The second one looks like she sucks cocks for a carriage ride and then walks home.
>>507299269Neither, Astarion is a huge faggot and any Paladin would kill his monkeypox having ass on sight
>>507299269Top is hotter, so play bottom
>>507263361I asked you to link the posts where you supposedly did those things instead of just saying you did them, which you failed to do. You also failed to link the post I asked for twice already, so consider this the third request. You can check my previous post to see what I'm asking for. I will continue to ask until you do it, because the difference between you and me is I substantiate everything I say with links and direct quotes, while you just grandiosely claim you did something or claim that I did something. Link the posts you are referring to right now. The last time you linked something you were wrong about what was being said, and the last time you tried to reiterate your main point that you werre arguing you just said that Halsin being dead would change the brothel scene which is something we covered days ago and is not relevant to examining Shart's answer to the question. You always try your best to weave some immature smug insult into your posts while you are the one not understanding that we are way past talking about ways to avoid hearing the question and are instead discussing the answer to the question when it is asked. I have been very clear about this being the topic but you are still caught up on the million ways you can avoid the question, and you keep smugly repeating various ways to avoid having the question be asked instead of addressing the issue everyone else is discussing, which is the answer to the question when it is asked. You aren't even on the right topic, and to make it worse you are smug about it and condescending while you're being incredibly dense, then accusing others of the exact thing you're guilty of.So right now, instead of empty claims that you've done something and immature personal attacks, link the exact posts where player agency affected Shart's answer to the question rather than just avoided the question, and where you refuted the claim that Shart's answer is the same if you've romanced her and Halsin is present.
>>507299858oops lol
>>507299947He can't play bottom, he's romancing Astarion
>>507299958Hello. Wanna date
>>507299958All I want for Christmas is for you to stop replying to the subhuman slopswine. You gave it plenty of chances already, but it is not in its nature to be honest, or to have an actual discussion. It's only here to waste time.
>>507299958Why do you keep throwing yourself into the meat grinder like this? You've lost the same argument the same way a hundred times. It really is a humiliation kink isn't it?
We need to launch some sort of effort to get nametranny interested in skyrim again
>>507299958Please be quiet we're talking about Alfira now. Your argument is done.
>>507299958Didn't you say months ago that she can be monogamous if you want her to be and she'll choose polygamy if you choose so. I'm not talking about her dreaming about halsin that happens with many couples in general. If so then why are you arguing? What's the point?
>>507282673This is the most likely explanation for the subset of Sharters who shitpost here so often. She is the designated waifu character of this game, she accosts you several times to be recruited while everyone else can just die instead of being recruited, she has the temple in act 2 where most other companions don't have big storylines yet, she gets a returning bg2 character just for her who is obsessed with her and revolves around her, she has the most scenes the most side quests the most journal the most items, etc, and so they became invested, and the Halsin landmine is only discovered in act 3 which can be 100+ hours invested in the game. So when they are told to their faces that Shart has been daydreaming many times over time, about having sex with him not just innocent yeah he's hot, they are faced with two choices. Leaving and finding someone who doesn't dream of other men might be seen as a failure, like you're retreating, so instead they cope and shitpost at every opportunity to convince themselves that the people who talk about Shart's dreams are the ones who are shitposting. A large portion of the discussion surrounding Shart is outright lies on behalf of the Sharters, yet they are the first ones to say you are lying. It's incredible.Or like today, you get some intentionally obtuse person going on tangents about how you can avoid the scene when you ask them about Shart's answer. We've been discussing this all day yesterday and we're talking about what Shart says, and the reveal at the end of the conversation that went on for an entire day was the Sharter smugly repeating that if Halsin is dead then the brothel scene is different. That was the big trump card argument taken out at the end of the day long conversation. These people have a mental block preventing them from even discussing the issue properly.But I think it's worth mentioning that a large portion of these discussions are started by trolls pretending to be Sharters. To be fair.
>>507283201When I played ER I couldn't decide on a waifu. What are the pros and cons of each of them, from someone who is cynical about both?>>507283426I think one reason is that she's presented as a princess that you help swim up out of the Sharran bullshit she's been drowned in, but then later it turns out she's not a perfect princess, she's actually sitting there dreaming of having sex with your mutual friend while you're adventuring.With Lazy it's not a surprise, she tells you up front that she bangs her mission members all the time because it's gith culture. She has a cute romance where she turns from promiscuous to monogamous. With Shart it almost feels like the opposite. In act 1 and act 2 she has a slower romance, she doesn't have sex with you and you feel like you're doing a more slow, mature, and emotional romance helping someone along who is dealing with cult brainwashing so you're taking it slow, as you should. It feels very right and very cute. Then she seemingly randomly just blurts out "yes, I have been actively daydreaming about explicitly sexual things with the burly lumberjack guy in our party" and it feels like a 180 whiplash. I think that's the main issue, and why so many Sharters prefer to just pretend it doesn't exist and will argue and shitpost when it comes up, because they genuinely feel like it's out of place so their personal headcanon actually is to pretend it doesn't exist. To be fair, I actually agree with them in that regard, that it does feel like a 180 whiplash change in characterization. I think the thing I and most Shartyers agree on is that John made a mistake in writing the character and he inserted his fetish late in the game. But the difference is I don't pretend it doesn't exist and I hold the character accountable for her words and deeds, while they brush it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist and shitpost when it comes up. Different reactions, but we both dislike John.
>>507300950Holy fuck, get a fucking grip you retared shitposter.
>>507300950The same thing happens to ranni actually. But less ntr reasons. People swear up and down to defend her and her actions, pointing out the problems of the golden order and entirely misreading her character. She outright says she murdered godwyn yet people somehow deny this and the resulting world cancer he spread on his living corpse being her fault. They claim her age of stars is some objective good when it just leaves a power vacuum for other people to fill continuing wars, just without some god leading them. We've seen what a world without the golden order looks like in the dlc. They were shoving people into fucking pots for religious rituals and other bullshit. People who simp for marika however are more similar to shadowsimps only because marika is canonically a cheater, like it's there in the lore she cheated on godfrey and mothered bastards who are the dead people in the walking mosoleums. Like it's not even "she's dreaming about other men" like shadowheart, she's an outright confirmed cuckoldress and if she did recover at the end of the game she'd cuck you too.
>>507301570>>507300668Oh now I get it you're just upset they're denying her fantasies existed.
>>507301570 here >>507301646I'd also like to add the porn meme marika model is cope. She's built like a less crooked messmer. Same lanky limbs and broad shoulders and everything if you look at her model.
>>507300668>why is a mindbroken shitposting namefag still shitpostingGee, we will never know.
Personally, I think he spams about Shadowheart every single thread because no one entertains his "Manthy luv" posts.
>>507287396Correct. Thank you.As to Astarion, he's very open about sex. I think the reason Shart is so controversial while Karl and Asty aren't is that Shart sets herself up as slow, monogamous, in it for the right reasons, is thankful for your genuine affection, and all of these positive indicators, then seemingly blindsides you with her explicit daydreams. With Astarion, okay yeah the very flirty guy who uses sex to manipulate people is...flirty about sex and using it as a tool again. There's no surprise there. The thing to know about Asty is that this is his defense mechanism, and that it's your job as the true love to help him discard that and be genuine. But him doing it at first is not a surprise like it with Shart. So you don't have people saying lies like "that never happens" or anti-intellectual responses like "well if you kill Sebastien you never hear the story of them being lovers".
>>507301570Most of the "people" you've been having autistic back-and-forths with in the past few months are not actual Shadowfags, let's be honest for a second. There's maybe a couple of these left and they do a good job at ignoring the shitposting. That's why you're wasting your time, because the goal of such exchanges is never for the other party to change their mind, or have their view challenged, it's to waste time, and sprinkle in some personal insults. So it's not even that you're right or wrong - you're just arguing against bad faith.
>>507284693I'm not "anti Shart", she always gets her happy ending with her parents in my game. What I am is anti-lies. Anytime someone says the brothel scene doesn't happen or happens differently, or they say something really stupid like "just avoid the brothel", people who are interested in the truth have to correct that. It's just a matter of the truth. It would be any topic if a different topic was something people lie about a lot.The people saying Shar isn't evil are doing it as a joke, so it's not controversial. The people who honestly give advice like "kill Halsin" or "just don't go to the brothel" are trying to obfuscate the truth. They're giving you ways to avoid hearing the line, rather than addressing the line. So proponents of the truth correct them.
>>507302438He obviously knows that, he's disingenuous scum for a reason.
I like when the nametranny loses and he starts reassuring himself name-off to create an impression of popular support for his gayness
>>507302390No. They're actually just insecure. It hits a little too close to home and actual insecurities for some. Shadowheart can still stay monogamous if you do. It's the fact that she's thinking about another man which makes people angry. The same thing with Yshtolafags in xiv. They HATE runar(an ironically similarly tall buff fury guy) because he had a crush on her in shadowbringers, and she established multiple times she wanted to go back to the first(another dimension where he is) to see him again. They can't handle this fact especially since yshtola is the face of xiv as the main character is a create a character, outside of the newly introduced controversial wuk lamat yshtola is essentially the leading lady in the game even when she takes a backseat to the plot. Most can't handle or cope with that fact even though it's established she doesn't want to date or sleep with him even. The devs themslves said so. But their cuckobsessed minds can't handle it still.
>>507287184There is a scene where Bhaal revokes his essence from you, restoring it to himself and killing you. If you're a betting person, you might bet that that removes the essence of Bhaal that makes bhaalspawn.
>>507302709But it's also a fact that if you don't engage with the twins shadowheart doesn't do anything with halsin. That's where the line between option and canon is. It's canon that she daydreams about him, an objective fact. What's funny is its entirely because halsin is a male. That's the actual problem for many. She flirts with karlach all the time. Nothing. Has a dynamic with lae'zel that causes many to ship them, nothing. It's halsin being a male and such an obvious writer insert character that makes people mald. If halsin were a woman I gurantee people would love her.
>>507302357>no one entertains his "Manthy luv" postsWe have literally just been discussing our love for retarded evil women before you shitposters got back to your usual scheduled autism fight
>>507303405>before you shitposters got back to your usual scheduled autism fightDon't be manthyfagphobic.
>>507289785No, that anon is exaggerating. Plenty of drow are not cursed by Lolth and plenty of drow haven't even been to Menzoberranzan. He's describing Lolthite priestesses, a specific subset of high society drow of a certain religion, and saying all drow.There are plenty of genuinely good drow who do not have the inclinations of their Menzoberanzan cousins.
>>507303405I love minthara so much its unreal.
>There are plenty of genuinely good drowLmfao.
>>507303654All drow are evil and retarded. We're racists here. I imagine you're a drow yourself and thus are retarded. Possibly evil.
You're making a hyperbolic argument. Lolth does not control literally every drow. Not every drow has fucked their mother and wants to fuck their daughter and make you watch. There are plenty of genuinely good drow who want you to fuck their mother and daughter while they watch.
Minthara is evil and retarded and that's her charm. I imagine durge has to play tard wrangler for her after the end to keep her from getting them both killed with her suicidally stupid schemes.
There's nothing wrong with Drow, but plenty wrong with namefag. A difficult position to be in here.
>>507303937Yeah but that's not minthara. You can't escape this fact just like how shartfags can't escape her dreaming about halsin. She WILL make you sleep with your daughters. She will make you murder your sons if you have more than 2.
>>507304053>suicidally stupid schemesI love evil retards
>>507304194Stop trying to bait Manthyfag into saying she's not like the other drow. It's a sensitive subject for him.
>>507304296She isn't like other drow. She's extra retarded for a drow.
>>507304053>Minthara is evil and retarded and that's her charmYep, I fell for her when she fed Sazza to the spiders and called me a slur, and her useless pleading with Kethetic was adorable
>>507303937>drow who want you to fuck their mother and daughter while they watchThat's literally what we've been saying this entire time. You love minthara so much you assimilated her (low) iq
>>507304460>she fed Sazza to the spidersoh shit, I should do this next evil run.
Reading the name field is hard, I guess. Or maybe it's dyslexia.
>>507304912None of you have written anything worth reading in your lives.
Is lae'zel Evil and retarded or just a bitchy and retarded?
>>507305063Just bitchy. She's not really evil like minthara she just grew up in a evil society. Put minthara instead of lae'zel in that duel and shed likely murder you out of spite. Lae'zel instead doesn't want to hurt you despite the laws of her race saying she should continue beating you for being weak
>>507305063She's less intrinsically retarded and more totally delusional and incapable of thinking for herself or reading any situation. She lacks the ambition that causes her to make grand retarded plans of world domination. Lae'Z will only ever be a goon.
>>507305260>>507305336That scene where you lose to her changed my brain chemistry. She looks way more attractive and sounds better to me now for some reason. Can anyone explain why?
>>507305260She doesn't kill you because she loves you. Manthy would've done the same in her shoes imo.
>>507304053She honestly seems like the type of person to try to teach their toddler to flay someone alive and call them names if they cry
>>507305063She's only evil because she was raised in evil society bootcamp. Part of Laezel's storyline is learning some of that was bullshit. She is one of the characters that changes alignments. Unless you make bad decisions on purpose, of course.She's also not really retarded, she says plenty of insightful things throughout the game, and her advice about things not gith related is usually wise and correct. She's just been indoctrinated by Vlaakith, which isn't really her fault. She has a pretty good story arc of getting away from that.
>>507305694>not wanting to kill someone means you love themSo I must love you because I don't want to hurt you right?
>>507305846If you're a frog or a drow? Yeah, probably.
>>507305063Like >>507305260>>507305787 said she isn't evil and retarded. The only other character I can describe as "evil and retarded" is astarion if he goes full vampire but even then he doesn't have that tard charm minthara has. He's just evil and stupid instead. Minthara is unique in that regard. She's wholly evil, wholly retarded, wholly wife.
>>507305787Don't use the r-word. It's highly offensive and ableist. People look up to you, you know?
>>507306048>wholly wifeJust don't have Shadowheart near her.
Do your larian dailies>https://advent.larian.com
>>507305917>french >people call us frogs >I apparently love anon nowIt's OVER for me
>>507306101Whats wrong with that? Why shouldn't I?
>>507306180Well, I'm flattered but I already have a wife.
>>507306312Nothing big, Minthara casually mentions that she wants to rape her.
>>507306336>rejected over feelings I didn't know i had Gonna ACK at this point
Would Astarion have been more or less popular if he were a cold and stoic vampire instead?
>>507306483That's fine. I don't care what she does with other women. I'd probably join infact.
>>507306539just as popular at the very least
Swearing an oath to Shadowheart's butt mid-orgasm
>>507306669mantharadork bitches about his romance not being faithful for a literal year and yet drops this kind of lines when his waifu for laifu wants to eat some non-character's carpet
>>507306861I'm a different minthara simp. But yeah I don't care about the shadowheart thing she's still my third favorite romance.
>>507306539He'd have more appeal for normal women and less for insane fujoshi so his fanbase would be basically nonexistent based off the girls in my D&D groups preferences
>>507307024> and less for insane fujoshibullshit, you'd see korean art of Stoicstarion raping gale all over the internet
>>507306861That's every romance. They all flirt with eachother sometimes aggressively. By the logic used against shadowheart and minthy everyone's unfaithful. Even the likes of wyll flirts with others
>>507307224what's a wyll?
>>507307287A type of cardboard
>>507307458
>>507307224isn't this exactly what mintharafag was just talking about. you're trying to lump everyone together and say everyone is unfaithful when really shart isn't just innocently flirting like everyone else does, she says she's been dreaming about fucking halsin. aren't you doing exactly what he said you people do
>>507306861That's actually funny and >>507305787 never comments on this. She objectively tries forcing herself on shadowheart in act 3 with no input from the player, even if you're dating her she actively tries to cuck you. At least shadowheart just daydreams
>>507307876It's ok because manthara molesting women makes namefag's clitty tingle
>>507307687No. Because I accept that's what she does. But lae'zel does the same with astarion. Astarion does the same. Minthara outright tries to with shadowheart even if you romance Minthara. Karlach canonically daydreams about other men if you play her and get her pov on things.I don't deny any of this. So no I do not fit
either make all of the companions poly or none of them, there, I fixed the issue, now quit talking about video game characters' sex life
>>507307876Weird lie that you would try to say we've never discussed that linehttps://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/text/deviant/username/mintharafag/I always find it so odd when you people try to lie about things that take 15-20 seconds to disprove. The more you lie the more likely it is you go to hell, and you do it in ways that aren't even productive or beneficial, you're just disproven in 15 seconds.To summarize the multiple previous discussions of this topic that you lied to say don't exist, it's not rapey because Shart simply says no and that's the end of it, it's not equivalent to Shart's actions because there's no implication of Minthara daydreaming about this over time it's one line that is clearly something she is wondering at the moment, Minthara has made her feelings about polyamory clear in the same act (act 3) and she's not interested which means this line can be taken at face value, as in she's actually curious which Shart has become as a result of her history of sexual manipulation.Next time you mar your soul with lies, at least do one that isn't so easily disproven.
>Next time you mar your soul with lies, at least do one that isn't so easily disprovennot even the clown that wrote minthara has been overthinking her character that hard, fucking disgraceful
I like when the schizo announces its arrival with off-topic tourist pictures. Are we talking about the space game?
>>507308540>minthara says that you are now hers and she is yours in act 1>wants to make you her consort, again, in act 1>she's shooting her shot to fuck shadowheart in act 3BUT NOT MINTHY NOT PRECIOUS MINTHY
>>507308540The fact that she says "she will test it" it at the end of the night shows she wants to fuck her. Even if it's not rape she clearly wants to fuck someone else. If shadowheart said yes they would've fucked, this is without player input and shows that minthara wants you to be monogamous but wants to fuck others. You sound EXACTLY like the shartfags you made fun of. I'm actually disappointed in you I thought you were based.
>>507309049It's canon. Denying this conversation is denying reality. She was written that way, and would think that way whether the player heard that conversation or not.
>>507309049lmao, mantharatroon btfo
>>507308540She's exactly like shadowheart as >>507309028 said. In act 1 she explicitly states you belong to eachother and wants monogamy. She then acts sexually aggressive with shadowheart. As seen >>507309049 "i would like to test both aspects of your character"How else would she test her deviancy anon? Tell me. And why would it require visiting her alone at night? The implication is there. The statement is there. She's as bad as shart.
lmfao poor manthyfag
>>507309028>>507309049>>507309241>>507309293>>507309280
>>507309028>https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Minthara/Banter>(If the player is romancing Shadowheart, and Shadowheart chose Shar)Omitting some pretty important context, huh?
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/14398
>>507309049That's it bros, if she does that to me I'm dumping her and fucking Mizora and Shart instead.
Speaking of Mizora, can you finally romance her?
>>507308540I'll go over your summary of your arguments >it's not rapey because short says no and that's the end of itCorrect. But its a clear sexual proposition either way>There's no implication of minyjara dreaming about this over time it's one line this is clearly something she is wondering at the momentWhether it's spur of the moment or long thought out, she still tried to sleep with someone while in a relationship>Minthara has made her feelings about polyamory clear in the same act (act 3) and she's not interested which means this line can be taken at face value, as in she's actually curious which Shart has become as a result of her history of sexual manipulation.She did make her interest in polyamory clear. She wants you to only be with her. She never says directly she won't sleep with others and outright shows in act 3 with shadowheart she does. She's not into polygamous relationships but cuckolding. And before you say>but she said she was monogamous So did shadowheart yet she still wants to bang halsin. It's the same issue with both characters. Either pull a shartfag and deny it(which you are) or admit they'll both cuck you
>>507309697only in dos2
>>507309637>MizoraShe's busy
so karlach and laezel are the only romance options that don't actively flirt with others?
>>507309637There's no if. Just as mintharafag said, you can't "i didn't see it so its not there" just like shartfags can't by killing halsin or avoiding the brothel. She still says those lines, she still showed interest I fucking someone while with you. And unlike shadowheart it wasn't during an orgy. She didn't go "can this guy I'm into join us" like her. She doesn't ask your permission. She shoots her shot infront of you. She doesn't care about how you feel about it.
>>507309843Lae'zel's navel is Gale property.
>>507309843NOPE all of the women do actually. Many of the men as well. Here's the thing, all companions do "teasing flirting" all the time. But shadowheart explicitly fantasized about halsin, lae'zel explicitly says she wants to fuck astarion or wyll and does fuck astarion if you don't fuck her. Minthara while romancing you while demanding you stay monogamous tries to sleep with shadowheart.
>>507309843laezel fucks astarion and wyll and karlach cant because she's melting but talks about it a lot
>>507310196>>507310196>>507310196
>>507309049There are multiple reasons why the two scenes are different. You can read the posts I linked for more, but since you're being lazy, I will repeat some of the ones we've already been over.That's not what she says. You managed to misquote it even while you posted the text. She says she would like to, not that she will, and when Shart gives a no, it's dropped and never mentioned again. Unlike Shart, who has a second scene in camp where she's enthusiastic about polyamory, and in both scenes where she gives disapproval points when you say no. Minthara has a passing comment when you're walking, which never comes up again. It's very different.Sharters like to say that Shart could have been joking, or just going along with you. This is disproven by the fact that Shart actually gives a disapproval point if you back out. Minthara however has no indication that she wasn't messing with Shart. There is no positive or negative proof that Minthara wasn't saying something to make Shart uncomfortable, which is in line with how she jokes with people, since she jokes about pleasure slaves with Astarion trying to make fun of him, she jokes about third sons trying to make Gale uncomfortable, she jokes about killing Boo to make Minsc uncomfortable, and so on. When Sharters try the "she was joking" defense, there is proof to prove that wrong, but in this case there is no such proof that she wasn't joking, and in fact it aligns with her sense of humor shown elsewhere.There's also the fact that this line is romance agnostic, it's just something that fires while you're exploring, regardless of if you're dating. Whereas Shart's line is only if you're dating her, and is purposely introducing the topic of polyamory into your relationship. Shart's is the author making a statement about how he wants the romance to go, while Minth's is a passing joke and nothing comes of it, they don't actually have sex and Minthara doesn't disapprove if nothing happens.
So mintharafag WAS projecting but instead of projecting his former feelings for shart on others he's projecting his feelings for minthara on shadowheart simps. He clearly tried his best to scitter around her wanting to sleep with someone else while with you.
>>507310227You already outed yourself as a lying faggot, you're better off killing yourself now!
