>AI slop darktide OP
a new low

>>507212034
It's one of the names you can get when you click randomise. Because it sounds kinda cool and they implemented fuck-all names for the game to draw upon you wind up with a bunch of people with the same name. I don't know why they didn't just copy + paste a baby name database for the game to pull names from.
t. Veteran named Harken

>>507229992
fuuuuuuuu I googled "Frazetta cover" how I didn't notice it was AI shit I'm tired I guess. Well sorry for that, really

>Serious "lore accurate" nickname
or
>Le funny meme nickname
Pick one

>>507229992
>Le Ai bad!
You dont know why you dont like it. People on twitter told you not to and that was enough for you

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>>507229497
>AI slop
>"explosed" instead of "exploded"

I am really sorry for this OP I'm tired and wanted to do something nice for you guys. You are allowed to insult me I failed you.

>>507232701
retard

>>507232918
:,-(

>>507232701
>>"explosed" instead of "exploded"
>Hes never exploded and exploded at the same time
Embarrassing...

>>507229497
>including n*gger-chan in the OP
Fuck off, tranny

>>507232701
You tried

>>507231915
I don't like it because it's low quality and takes two seconds to make, and is flooding literally all content channels completely drowning out anything real.
I don't like it because I can see thirty fucking flaws in that picture alone, and there are elements in the image that are so beyond human gestalt they border on creepy.

>>507233697
>I don't like it because it's low quality and takes two seconds to make, and is flooding literally all content channels completely drowning out anything real.
This doesnt happen. I've never seen it happening to the degree youre trying to pretend it does. Also this is 4chan. Everything we do here is low quality and takes 2 seconds to make.
>I don't like it because I can see thirty fucking flaws in that picture alone
Yeah, so? You think OP is applying to be an artist? He clearly just made a shitpost for fun. Sounds to me like you forgot how to enjoy little things and take everything on the internet too seriously.

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>>507228524
Man you weren't fucking kidding. I finally managed to get a lucky join on a 29 and I swear, dragging the team to the finish line with just ONE sub-25 snoy was like pulling teeth. If I wasn't running dueling whore like a bitch, and if our smigger didn't manage to smig at all the most important times, there is no way we would've cleared the mission.

>>507234225
The only people who feel the need to defend AI to this degree either genuinely hate artists because they're jealous, or gargle elon's nuts. Pick one and let yourself out.

>>507234727
This is peak projection lol, AI sloppers are happy slopping, the whiners are the anti-AI posters (like yourself). Just look, you are literally solely responsible for this entire fucking argument and you still have the gall to pretend other people are the ones with sticks up their asses.
>>507234225
>Sounds to me like you forgot how to enjoy little things
This is their problem, they genuinely cannot fathom dicking around with shiny new toys purely for the fun of it.

>>507235028
Everyone dicked around with AI like a year ago, and realized it was a fugazi. I'm sorry you have zero taste and are entertained by keys jingling, but the rest of the world moved on already.

>>507235329
>cunter strike
Sorry don't care, I'm white

>>507235501
there are a lot of bald white guys playing CS 2 friend
FYI

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>>507235658
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALD

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALD YOU'RE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALD

>>507229497
>havoc
gay
>slop
gay
>everything else
surprisingly soulful

>>507230740
I want to do one of the latter but I’m torn now

>>507235501
Tsmt

>>507234727
>No argument
You take yourself too seriously. Learn to laugh again.

>>507236391
I am. At you.

>>507233212
i kinda wanna fuck her

Would the fast firing infantry lasgun work with infernus and dum-dum? I want to use it in Auric and LARP as a guardsman

>>507236510
>"I can only derive joy when its directed at someone else"
Learn to laugh again

>>507237012
lol say it again

>>507234225
For the purpose of (extremely) low effort shitposts it’s not bad but not when it drowns out 99 percent of while having the most glaring flaws and other inconsistencies. This shit is about a decade too young to be as ubiquitous as it is

>>507236948
>Would one of the strongest weapons in the game work?
I don't know, Anon.

>>507230740
I always use meme nicknames

I just played a game with a Psyker using a Trauma staff and he was spamming the M1 attack the entire game. Literally never stopped just firing the projectile from start to finish.

What is that shit?

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Assassinorum classes when?

>>507237516
Are you retarded?

>>507234225
Fuck off, n*gger-chan. We know it's you

>>507237516
a single assassin could end this entire conflict in 2 sec flat

>>507237962
how? by killing grendyl and rannick?
>nooooo we shouldn't HUNT DOWN and KILL our enemies, we need to waaaaait, they need to be contaaaaained

>>507237516
A kill team of assassins would literally have this entire mess cleaned up in a week tops. You might as well be asking for space marine classes or something because it would make as much sense as for why there’s still a game.

>>507238347
People genuinely underestimate how much of an impact Space Marines would have on this conflict. In the second Guardians of the Throne book, the Imperial Fists show up to Terra because there is a mass uprising going on due to the CYCATRIX MALEDICTUM and the daemons that showed up on the planet. Afterward, a bunch of cultists (on the galaxy's most populated planet) begin to wage a war in the "Southern Continent" that could threaten to spread to the rest of the planet. The book goes out of its way to establish that these cultists have effectively destabilized and control a huge part of the planet, but then a company of IF show up and wreck them in like a week. There's some Custodes too, but they did very little of the work.

>>507229497
Heh
6/10 OP picture
It's alright

>>507238210
I was thinking more along the lines of killing wolfer but I like your idea better

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>queue for regular Damnation
>team full of Havocfags and Auric Exampler players
>queue for Auric Damnation
>team full of absolute idiots who clearly cannot handle the difficulty level and fold to the first wave of enemies

>>507231915
I personally looked at this and for a second I was like
>whats going on with his hand
then I saw the more obvious AI stuff and it clicked. I'm not upset by seeing it or something but it is pretty shit art that only looks right at first glance

>>507239643
>queue for regular Damnation
Why would anyone do this?

>>507239756
have darktide installed? who knows

>>507239054
SM are powerful in open conflicts where their targets can be easily identified and attacked. Conventional conflicts especially. But we are fighting a guerilla war against an unclear set of foes without a window into their leadership structure inside the nasty and complex super and substructure of a hive city. SM have had books written about that too. Its not as easy. Wherever they are they win, but they struggle to be where it matters.

The same problem we have as inquisitorial acolytes.

>>507239860
Are there even "normal" people living in the hive city anymore? I feel like SMs would show up and just start blowing up the fucking city cuz fuck it this place is nurgle infested anyway.

>>507237503
I think it's a meta thing because I've seen multiple psykers--who by all accounts seemed quite competent--doing it now.
>>507240003
Hive cities like Tertium are almost beyond comprehension in terms of size. We've been involved in a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the city; it's reasonable to assume there are vast swathes that aren't showing any open signs of corruption yet.

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>>507232701
tranner only you care about AI images, the rest of us don't mind them... stupid faggot

>>507239860
The IF were fighting a guerrilla war in this conflict due to the sheer size of it. They still shrek'd the cultists.

>>507240495
>erm don't be a toxic person
>is an insufferable cunt himself
This is such typical shitcord behavior. This tranny retard and his band of faggots probably act like complete shitheels constantly and ban anyone who doesn't put up with it.

>>507240495
what the FUCK are these tranny tier rules just to talk to people who play darktide?????

>>507239720
>"I hyper analyzed everything and started taking this shitpost very seriously"

>>507240618
>is one of the best players in the game
>makes content about how to get better at the game
>constantly debunks and calls out retards who don't know how to play the game and give bad advice
>"trAnnY retaRd"

>>507240003
From a lore perspective a hive city has tens of billions of people in it. Sometimes a trillion or so. Any given acolyte is going to kill a few hundred heretics the way we are fighting before they bite the bullet at best. Not like 3000 per mission as 4 guys. So we're legitimately just engaged in tiny actions along the fringes of a huge conflict. Most of the city very likely has no idea there's even a war going on.

>>507240765
>is one of the best players in the game
no that would be solely Mr E, kys tanner

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>>507240765
1/10 bait you fucking faggot kill yourself

>>507240003
You have to remember Hive Cities are very frequently the size of continents and in many cases make the majority of a planets landmass. It’s entirely possible Tertium is another case of this

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>>507240765
>>is one of the best players in the game
Haha, the orb really has a sense of humor.

I was too hard on The Forever Winter. It's good if you can gnaw your way through a wall of janky mechanics and annoying as fuck bugs.

>>507240495
huh, so this is what wearing a dress does to someone

>>507240765
Kill yourself, tranner

>>507237516
A DLC where we play as them in a select few new missions with an entirely new set of characters who we answer to and where we’re spoken to and of with fear and respect would be saucy ngl man. Would really be a heavy contrast to our current characters

>>507240790
>>507241059
Good point. Guess it's just Fatshark not being all that good at handling the scale of our little conflict.

>>507240790
You are correct, most of the city literally doesn't know from what we can piece together. The Moebian 6th aren't that huge of a group because there could only be a fixed number of them in the first place. The fact that we can kill millions of them is just a game conceit since no singular IG company is that large, not even close. The Admonition Cultists on the other hand? They probably outnumber the Moebian 6th like a hundred to one. And both groups make up a lot of their forces in chaff from poxwalkers/groaners that they corral. Some of the lore is inconsistent though. Hab Dreyko has the possibility of hearing those Hive Lord idiots bickering, and one of them laments the loss in money/cost it will take to fix it. But given the scale of the city, and how small Hab Dreyko is? Why does he fuckin' care? Half of the Hour Glass maps are literally falling apart/destroyed from hive quakes.

>>507240003
This Nurgle cult is baby shit to the Astartes. Admonition would have to summon a Great Unclean One for the Space Marines to care.

>>507241154
I think the mental damage comes first, then comes in the dress, not the other way around.

>only did havoc rank 33 last week
>drop from 40 to 33
holy fuck, so much for not deranking lmao what kind of shit is this

>>507240495
>Rule 1 no nazi
Guess he was a tranny all along.

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>>507240765
tanner i am not kidding when i say this
>ahem
PLEASE fucking kill yourself RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>507241414
4 rejects would dab on that unclean nigga in 2 minutes flat

>>507241590
that's assuming they don't have their guts turned into a balloon of pus and proceed to vomit and shit themselves to death

>>507241590
Yeah they would wipe his ass.. I bet he would hate that.

>>507240495
>>507241450
>actually says cp instead of something generic like illegal material like a normie
He 100% has cp

>>507241885
That shit got retconned for darktide

>>507241414
They literally summoned beasts of nurgle dude. Its not about care its about logistics and attention.

>>507241397
A hab block is doubtless part of a lords domain and needs to be worried about as a political and financial concern. There's probably millions like it but its not a small thing in a crumbling technohell to replace infrastructure.

>>507235221
>No argument
Thats wild how this keeps happening. You should check in on your favorite redditor and twitter artist for their opinion

>>507240765
Someone post the webm of Tranner getting pounced by a dog despite using Spidey Sense and having hardly anything on his screen to worry about.

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>>507242002
Everything in 40k is extreme hyperbole.

>>507242793
you won't accept "it looks like shit" at face value, so there's really no point trying to argue with you faggots

>>507242984
He had his ammo, spidey sense, dodge count and health in the middle of the screen so he couldn't see the dog

>>507237323
strongest weapons? everytime I see them mentionned people prefer the recon lasgun

Remember to thank your Zealot today.

>>507236948
Try comparing it to whatever the heavy version is currently called before deciding

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>>507243061
No, its because youre running out of cope. Images like this pop up all over and everyone praises it. But then when they find out its actually AI they all go "UHHH ACTUALLY, AFTER HYPER ANALYZING IT, ITS ACTUALLY LE SHITTY"

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>>507243997
You couldn't have proved my point harder if you tried.

>>507243997
not him but you don't even need to hyper analyze this shit. the errors are all over the place and that's without going into how none of the details make sense.

>>507243997
Ew what is this disgusting AI tranny slop? Get that shit outta here

>It looks like shit
>NO, ACTUALLY, YOU SEE, THIS SYSTEMIC HATRED AGAINST AI ART DERIVES FROM CANCEL CULTURE MOVEMENTS. YOU DON'T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT, WHAT YOU MEAN IS [Unintelligible] ELON MUSK SAID [Incomprehensible] SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD AND YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT
>no, it looks like shit
>AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>507244536
You had me until the Mr. Musk deragement took over. Serious YIKES moment there, chief

>>507244667
You will one day bash him and act like you always knew he was retarded.

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>>507241979
he's openly admitted to being into that kinda shit multiple times (but swears he'd never save any of course!), so I'm kidna surprised he hasn't been chased off by the darktide/vermintide community as a whole yet lol
>also
don't forget to claim your free gift slop in ratclicker!
>>507244536
tanner we don't give a fuck about elon, go post about it on your server and stop having a massive sperg out here ffs

>>507244989
Maybe if i fall on my head and suffer some kind of massive brain damage that makes me as retarded as you are

Coop games

>>507245189
Tidesister :)

>>507244119
>>507244168
>>507244294
>No arguments once again
:)

>>507241414
This. Although a GUO would also be grounds for an exterminatus, especially on a Hive world where whatever super aids it conjures would spread like wildfire

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>>507244119
>"ITS ACTUALLY BAD BECAUSE UH..... IT JUST IS, OKAY?!!"

>>507242002
Not how that works
>>507243000
Most of these are right. Grimderp and Meme40k really skewed a lot of peoples perceptions of stuff

>>507246274
It looks bad.

>>507245902
The burden of proof is on you so nobody else needs to do shit

>>507246329
explain tanner

>>507244989
I do already kind of bash him but not for the reasons you do

Just let the luddites seethe, sloppabros. They'll fade away naturally in another year or so when they're unable to distinguish AI from human art even though they probably already fail to do so half the time as it currently is

>>507246460
You bash him because he's not right wing
>>507244989
You bash him because he things it's bad to groom kids into being trannies

>>507246395
Tanner? Who is Tanner? You mean Tranner? That pedophile guy?

>>507246342
>The burden of proof is on you so nobody else needs to do shit
I posted a picture and you all went "Nuh, uh!" You dont even know what burden of proof is, either. Not surprising someone who parrots redditor comments is ignorant.
>>507246329
>>507246506
First it was "lol le ugly!" then it was "lol le fingers!" now youre not even trying. Youre being irrational and mad because you were one of the people that said AI would never get better and would rather double down.
I bet if you lived in 1903 youd think planes would never be a thing and would die out because "its le shitty"

>>507246506
Just another five years and we'll finally have hands figured out. Ten more years and we'll get proper scene composition. The future is limitless.

>>507242161
>They literally summoned beasts of nurgle dude.
The difference between the two is night and day. BoN are standard Nurgling daemons. GUOs can facilitate the fall of entire planets by their lonesome

>>507246707
>I posted a picture
That proved our point so you lost and we won. Pretty simple stuff

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>>507246707
>brooo it's just like the TV and the mobile phone...you're rejecting prooooogress!
you said the same thing about NFTs

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>>507246707
>First it was "lol le ugly!" then it was "lol le fingers!"
literally the next post lmao, they really don't have anything else to fall back on

>>507246815
>He doesnt understand why or even read what I said.
Sounds about right for reddit parrot.
Does polly want an updoot?
>>507246971
I bet carriage drivers seethed and coped when cars were invented too.
>>507247050
>they really don't have anything else to fall back on
Thats what I was thinking about (You)

>>507246506
See >>507237276
It’s way too inefficient for that to happen in anything sooner than a decade

>>507247050
Damn. This AI-tard (who is most likely a br*wn porn addict) is getting completely btfo'd

>>507244119
... that doujin is cursed.

>>507247216
>someone finally recognized it
I grabbed that as a reaction image like a year ago purely because the power of knowing what it's from is overwhelming

>>507247132
>Sounds about right for reddit parrot.
>Does polly want an updoot?
You're the only one here with a deep knowledge about the attitudes of r*dditors towards this issue. Stop projecting, stop coping and just admit that you got destroyed like the little bitchtits having ass diaper shitter that you are

Where is smigger-chan in all of this
Post some cute smigger things

>>507247440
>Changing the subject
Guess I won again :)

>>507247649
He is the local face of low quality AI trash
>>507247739
>gets destroyed
>declares victory
We all saw me bend you over and clap your cheeks to a pulp. You ain't escaping the fact that you L O S T

>>507247970
>>gets destroyed
>>declares victory
slav behavior, trust me

>>507247150
>anything sooner than a decade
Come on now, you can't possibly believe that. Pic related was AI art barely two years ago. Compare that to what anons are churning out on free models now. The tech is progressing extremely fast and anybody who thinks it won't be much further refined in a year or so--especially now that big corps are ALL jumping on the bandwagon and pouring money into their own R&D--is simply putting their hands over their ears and ignoring the inevitable.
>>507247209
AI is being developed and driven by the White Man, which is why you can only project your own self-loathing.

>>507248081
damn dude. go easy on him

>>507247970
>Still using grade school yard insults as an argument
Another win for me :)
Looks like you didnt have anything to retort with and just started having meltdowns.
Im sure everyone actually hated refrigerators too :)

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>>507248081
>AI art will take another decade to reach a point of realistic detail.
>meanwhile, AI art in August of 2022

>>507248293
AI art will only be good for shitposting, nothing more.

>>507248081
>The tech is progressing extremely fast and anybody who thinks it won't be much further refined in a year or so--especially now that big corps are ALL jumping on the bandwagon and pouring money into their own R&D--is simply putting their hands over their ears and ignoring the inevitable.
This is why I say people who hate AI are just delusional retards.
We forget just how fast AI progressed in a few years.

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>>507247338
"Castrato", yes. I still remember after all these years.

>>507248071
Such a shame that good people have to ne subjected to the retardation of the 2nd and 3rd world
>>507248081
Whiter than you will ever be
>>507248181
>you can't object to the posting of low quality AI trash because refrigerators are good
It's such a shame that you are too retarded to know how retarded you are. It takes a lot of the joy out of destroying you

>>507248541
>Whiter than you will ever be
you actually said the memeline
christ man, at least try not to fit the stereotype so hard

>>507248541
>Low quality of AI
I showed you an image of how good AI can be and you just started spouting "burden of proof" (Incorrectly, btw)

This is what happens when anti-AI bros try to think for themselves on why they dont like current thing in current year.

>>507248634
Nice try, Ivan. You don't just get to ignore the truth because it reminds you of a meme
>>507248816
>I showed you an image of how bad AI can be
Fixed it for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Xm3HaqHyk

I can already hear your ratfag cope now.
>"UHHHHH THIS ISNT DRAWN"

i was on the fence about AI posting, but seeing how retarded the AI posters are really made it easy to be against it

>>507248996
so can you refute >>507248081 or

>>507248925
>Unironically using ftfy
Youre mad.

>>507248965
Notice how they didn't use low quality AI generated trash

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>>507243997
I'm not deeply invested in AI hate or anything but you could've posted something that isn't this same dogshit 2.5d face with generic thicc body if you wanted anyone at all to view it in a positive light

>>507249069
try posting AI art when it's not low quality trash. shouldn't have to wait too long

>>507249108
Lol. I knew that would get under your skin

507249110
Notice how hes still mad he got btfo'd

>>507249226
look at the saggy ass tits on that bitch

>>507249402
I prompt for that, nothing better exists

>>507248081
> AI is being developed and driven by the White Man
It’s a shame it’s disproportionately made by thirdies and browns then

>>507249401
Sounds like you are out of steam already. It's your own fault for getting into arguments that you couldn't possibly win because the facts are not on your side and you are too stupid to argue convincingly

>>507242161
>They literally summoned beasts of nurgle dude
Daemonic Beasts are just above a Chaos Spawn on the Shit's Fucked Scale. Getting a Greater Unclean One out of the warp means you've basically damaged reality, lesser daemons are spontaneously manifesting, and things are about to go from bad to FUBAR.

>>507249290
Anyway, AI won
You lost
Simple as
All I'm seeing is the seething of a fag feeling his irrelevance slowly crushing him

>>507249226
This is AI? I wouldn’t be nearly as opposed to it if most of it didn’t have that awful hyper glossy plastic soulless style

>>507249226
That Miku isn’t even thicc what the fuck are you talking about

>>507249791
Sounds like you never tried it yourself

>>507249629
Yep. I have noticed that they are much, much more likely to post AI slop. I guess their brains aren't developed enough to recognize how off-putting it is
>>507249728
That wasn't even the argument. Damn, you really are a retard, huh?

>>507235878
no, because i'm not white... men in my family have a lot of hair in their 50s, so I expect that

>>507249996
>i'm not white
Wrong general, amigo

>AI so influential it completely derailed the thread for 150+ posts
AI won.

>AI posting is such trash that it completely derailed the thread for 150+ posts
Damn. Guess the anti- AI posters were right all along

>>507249791
Yeah it is, if you look at details like the earrings those are generated. It's just that the hyper glossy plastic 2.5d artstyle is extremely popular among third worlders who will spam it everywhere like they achieved anything, it's babbys first gen basically. People who try a bit harder to generate less generic looking shit tend to not post it because by that point they're over the novelty and just enjoy the generations for themselves. I only really posted it for contrast to show it gets less generic than that.
This dynamic is why there's "that AI artstyle" it's really just "everything default"

>the AI side wins when it shits up /coopg/
That should tell you everything you need to know

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>>507247649

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>>507248490
>image
will we ever get a game where we play as heretics? or chaos forces in general, I doubt it but a boy can dream

Let's be honest. They only want AI so they can develop realistic CP

>>507250751
dont look into the smigger chan harry potter general rabbit hole. This guy has been a known namefaggot tranny for years

>>507250758
>will we ever get a game where we play as heretics?
It is exceedingly difficult to tell a sympathetic story about Chaos. At best they're truly just madmen, flailing about in an attempt to rationalize their worldshattering realization that the gods are the true primal forces of the universe that can never die. At worst they are fuck-eat-kill reptile brained mass murderers doing things that make violent abusive rape look like a better alternative.

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>>507251038
>Can create just about anything you type in
>Mind goes to CP

>>507251163
darktide barely has a story, they could just do that

>>507251178
I'm just being honest about these people

>>507251279
>darktide barely has a story
ratfag

>>507249996
cope paco

>>507251102
>Smigger chan made everyone here seethe so hard they raided another board

>>507251102
… The who?

>>507251521
>they
When you say "they"care you saying that n*gger-chan raided a another board because "they" is a commonly pronoun for trannies, or are you saying that /coopg/ers raided another board?

Just trying to make sure i understand the libtard newspeak

>>507251163
idk maybe they can make it so they got turn into chaos against their will, it doesn't have to be a happy story, or just be a retelling of some lore battles from chaos perspective, I would love a plague wars game where we play as the death guard.

>>507251906
Bro, if you are evil then just say you are evil

>>507251824
What a dumb niggerbrained post

>>507251521
>referring to another thread as a baord
>being proud of being annoying
hmm

>>507250758
Like you say, I doubt it.
>>507251163
Also this. The best we’re gonna get is PvP at this point, unless they lean hard into the full on delusion a lot of heretics have that they’re fighting against le corpse emperor who le lied and le cheated everyone. A game where you play as Xenos that are just completely uncaring like Tyranids or something like Necrons where they actually have an understandable goal that’s a lot like the Imperium’s would probably work better

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>>507251973
I am evil

>>507251279
Most of the cast are either teetering on the brink of heresy or, arguably, already over the line. Occasionally the Zealot will start screeching about Skulls for the Golden Throne. Cadian Vet's outlook on the Fall of Cadia is that the Emperor abandoned them, which would make most of the Ecclesiarchy burst a blood vessel. German Psyker is approaching Deadpool levels of fourth wall sarcasm. Meanwhile with Ogryn, well...a lot of Chaos Ogryn think they're still serving the Emperor until they're covered head to toe in boils and burping yellow sludge.

>>507252146
trannies think being insufferable creeps is them being quirky and playful little girls. obnoxious and revolting

>>507252220
But are you evil enough to be racist?

>>507251521
board???

>>507252094
>racism
do you need a time-out?

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>>507252447
silly anon, racism isn't evil, is completely justify and grounded in logic.

darktide should of been greentide and we get to play as the orcs instead

>>507252808
Now, rape and murder i understand, but racism? That is downright anti-american...

>>507252327
Actually kinda true. It’s even funnier because there are voice lines even warning the Zealot for example not to take more pleasure in the act itself. I think Cadia Vet just thinks the Imperium itself left them to die, which is still heretical.

>>507252327
I just chalk all that up to the writers not understanding wh40k. Some characters say the most bizarre shit I have ever heard in a wh40k game, they talk like players that know the lore as an outsider rather that talk like a character in the setting.

Wich knoife mK is the best? I want to knoife

I'm thinking of changing my Psyker's personality just so I don't cringe whenever I have to hear the butchered fourth wall subtitle joke.

>>507253690
Good luck, all psyker voices are bad

>>507253589
>Wich knoife mK
The duelling saber one

>>507253419
I think the writing for a lot of the the in mission dialogue in particular is just kind of amateur. It falls into that specific trap of
>Let's put a super unique, almost tongue in cheek take on 40k here!
and like, nobody wants that. People want the fucking hyperbole played straight. That IS 40k. The unique, quirky take literally kills the appeal

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>>507252146
>"SMIGGER CHAN COULD BE IN THIS VERY THREAD!"
>"THEY COULD BE (YOU)! THEY COULD BE (ME)!"

>>507252327
>Occasionally the Zealot will start screeching about Skulls for the Golden Throne
And this is why I love her. Need psycho, murderhobo gf

Who are more dangerous now, maniac ragers or carapace ragers?

>>507254671
The post I replied to is literally smigger-chan. That's his harry potter general persona character named lucceia or some shit. It's all been posted here

>>507253324
>I think Cadia Vet just thinks the Imperium itself left them to die, which is still heretical.
He's just suffering from super PTSD. The only thing keeping him in check is his hate of Chaos.
The Inquisition is honestly the best place for him, he gets to kill Chaos and doesn't have to answer to the Guard or government.

>>507243000
To be fair, the only reason Admech are technological "geniuses" is because they have a monopoly on high technology.
They're a psycho cult worshipping ancient alien Cthulhu and the only reason they're relevant is because they threatened to nuke the entirety of planet Earth.

>>507253690
You mean the German one? Because that one is the worst. Well, it’s a tie between that one and the bantoid
>>507253760
French Psyker cutie is good doe

>>507256376
>They're a psycho cult worshipping ancient alien Cthulhu and the only reason they're relevant is because they threatened to nuke the entirety of planet Earth.
Well. That and the fact that, like you say, they’re pretty much the only reason the Imperium is able to wage war. How is the Omnissiah alien Cthulhu though? They hold that it and the Emperor are one and the same

>>507254842
still dreg ragers because they're faster with bigger movement. You can just walk away from scab ragers once they start up

>>507256376
>people in power are only in power because they hold onto it
damn that's wild

>>507256432
>French Psyker cutie is good doe
Fuck off Jean-Mohamerde she has the most boring interactions
>MUH PROTOCOL

Savant psyker is the only one with a "For the Emperor" cheer.

>For the Emperor!
>For the Goooooood Emperor!
>Fooooor the Empraaaah!
>I will survive! / Oh look we're winning...
bro stfu

>>507257187
For my beloved albeit

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>>507257187
>for the emperor!
>for the emperor!
>for the beneficient emperor!
>For Atoma!

>>507256914
Shit taste

>>507253419
>>507253939
>they talk like players that know the lore as an outsider rather that talk like a character in the setting.
>Let's put a super unique, almost tongue in cheek take on 40k here!
fucking this, the dialogue always bother me but I didn't know how to put it into words

>>507256657
>They hold that it and the Emperor are one and the same
Cope to keep the masses in the dark, the Mechanicus was founded on ancient C'tan tech that the Emperor sealed in a Necron facility on Mars.
I think it's likely that the cybernetic revolt was caused by the Dragon of Mars partially breaking free and taking control of imperial AI galaxy wide due to lacking security in the tomb

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could i request some light spoonfeeding for a retard proof surge staff psyker build. please understand i usually play ogryn and thats the one class you cant possibly fuck the build up on

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>>507258690
yeah consult this guide, worked for me

>>507258621
So they actually worship the Void Dragon? Makes it kinda weird and ironic they consider Xenos tech heretical while worshipping one. I guess that’s nothing new for them though. They always secretly horde that shit

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remember when we thought we might see other classes added later

>>507259613
they were going to make the class tree additions into individual classes with the old "select one of these three perks from this column" class style and charge you $15.99 a pop for them

Thoughts on the cosmetics? Some of them look kinda oink worthy I can’t lie…

>>507259613
lmao
remember the constant "what race should they add next???" posts from optimistic anons who were not yet familiar with Fatshark's Wild Ride

>>507259308
don't open this file my CD tray won't stop opening and closing

>>507259613
>>507260095
Yeah and we got a total class overhaul that gives us more player freedom than the shitty talent system where only the last 3 talents matter.

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>>507260802
>"this shit is fine, at least it's not diarrhea"

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>>507260932
>Ratkeks mad they have to pay for their classes

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>>507260802
anon, hedge is no longer haunting us; you do not need to run defense for fatshark

>>507260802
>a total class overhaul
>of classes that suck ass
>bro this tree offers so much freedoooom
>there's actually only like two builds for each class, max

>>507261050
>>507261305
Where did I lie?
Every ratfag class follows the same exact format
>6 talents
>3 are copy pasted from every other class down to using the same icon but a different colour
>The last 3 talents just make some minor change
For example:
Necromancer Skeletons now do dot damage
Tree elf now makes a longer wall and lasts longer
French now adds a second stab attack to Blessed Blade, dealing devastating single target damage.
Yeah, bro...... Exciting... That will be 15 shekels, please.

>say "darktide sucks"
>immediately get told "vermintide sucks harder"
every time

>>507261693
Want me to POOOOOOOOOOOOOOST the charts?

>>507261753
feel free, I literally do not own vermintide 1 or 2 and do not have darktide installed

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>two games of passive aggressive voice chatters with sub 60 offense score
stop talking

>>507261493
ok, but nobody other than you is talking about ratclick right now

>>507261050
I love this little creature

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>>507240495
This punk is one of THESE worst darktide players at high levels I've ever recently seen, and even got carried in his havoc shit lmao... No surprise he's a sperg in shitcord

Just had a glitched game where I couldn’t equip my stim the entire time. Anyone else had this happen?

stims never feel worth the time investment of equipping and using, except for med stim

ded

>>507259426
>So they actually worship the Void Dragon?
After a fashion. They worship the "Machine God", that is to say: The source of all knowledge and technology. You know how the word Philosophy literally means love of wisdom, Sophia being the goddess of wisdom? The Mechanicus are like the opposite of that, concerned with Gnosis i.e. Knowledge. They're so obsessed with knowledge they have abandoned wisdom which is why so many of their practices are backward and they do not really understand the technology they're using.

The Machine God is Gnosis incarnate: Deus Mechanicus. The Void Dragon can be interpreted as a Machine God. If it were to ever be discovered there would be another schism in the AdMech like the one during the Horus Heresy between people that would want to worship the thing and "FUCKING FILTH XENOTECH DESTROY IT (so we can study the remains)." I'm not sure the Priesthood of Mars could survive another civil war.

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THERE IS ONLY WAAAAR!

The emperor is just a computer nerd lmao chaos chads rise up

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This franchise would unironically be a lot more popular if there were more Eldar and human teamwork.
Another change is stop trying to make them different for the same of being different and just make them beautiful humans. I dont understand the westoid obsession with forcing diversity in races when it just makes them ugly or look stupid. Nobody wants your "unique elves" just make attractive humans with ears.

Just played my first maelstrom lights out and it was every bit as chaotic as I thought it would be. It was heresy level though so I thought I’d give it a try. Managed to kill a fair number of the ridiculous boss spam the director threw at us. My teammates flashlights look way brighter than mine

>>507258621
>cybernetic revolt
its literally not, because that happened before it was imprisoned
>>507259426
>consider Xenos tech heretical
they dont, they always chomping at the bit for it
>>507267128
>If it were to ever be discovered there would be another schism in the AdMech like the one during the Horus Heresy between people that would want to worship the thing and "FUCKING FILTH XENOTECH DESTROY IT (so we can study the remains).
the schism happened because they realized the emperor is a false prophet and kind of a dick, and they still believe that, but nobody can call them out on it because theyre technically not part of the imperium, and they also make everything you own...

>>507262910
>yellow stimm
Best one in the game, effectively used by almost all builds, either pop it before/during a big fight or when you need your stealth cooldown to refresh. Using your ability more is the strongest thing you can possibly contribute.
>blue stimm
For when a horde needs to die a little quicker. Good to use after you sprint over to someone downed/dead to refresh your stamina to res. Nice to dump into someone else while they carry the objective. Or into your vet, who runs at a snail's pace without stamina.
>red stimm
A boss just spawned and needs to be dead. Maybe the psyker is carrying you hard, dump it into him, it reduces peril gain.

Using a stimm on someone else is much faster than using it on yourself, assuming the other guy doesn't run away from you and squirm through 2 other teammates so you hit the wrong guy.

On the subject of stimms: How come every retard ignores or ditches yellow stimms? Prioritizing green ones I get, but red and blue over yellow? Do people just not use their fucking skills?

>>507270379
>they dont, they always chomping at the bit for it
Yes, but it’s literally one of their core tenants that technology is a gift from the Omnissiah to the human race and that all alien versions of it are perversions, it’s just that a lot of them ignore that and chase after it anyway

>>507270501
>Prioritizing green ones I get, but red and blue over yellow? Do people just not use their fucking skills?
If I'm using FOTF or Shout, I'm not too bothered by my cooldown. Red gives Damage and Rending which can be nice for quickly dumping on elite packs. On the other hand, blue kinda sucks compared to all the others. I don't know why you'd prio it unless Psykers get some benefit from it for staves/blitzes (I only ever play SG Psyker).

>>507271380
FOTF has two charges so it uses cooldown reduction quite well, even if you only spam it for toughness and stagger.
Shout knocks over groups of enemies and keeps everyone topped up on piss. It's one of the less amazing abilities to use yellow stimm with, but it's still very strong.
>blue stimm on psyker
It increases quell speed, but it's not great

>>507270747
All of 40k is based on religious sects/denominations/etc. They all contain various sliding scales of conservatism and liberalism. Anarchy and Order. Heterodoxy and Orthodoxy. Techno Archeologists are extremely important, and many of them are viewed are Hereteks but at the same time they can't be ignored for how useful they are. Same goes for guys like Cawl. Cawl is extremely important within the Mechanicus, but some other very powerful Archo Magus' view him as a Heretek while others think everything he is doing is copacetic. It's the same thing with the Inquisition. The IG and their Primer. Space Marines and the Codex. Custodes. Sisters of Battle. On and on and on, and you can find the exact same dynamic at play because the setting (for Humanity anyway) is not based around logic. It is structured entirely upon belief from the top down and the bottom up.

>some butthurt dude finally reached 40 and now keeps listing 40's with a bot to decline instantly

kek, I thought maybe he missclicked the first time while doing someone else, but I tried again and was declined the millisecond i pressed request and nobody is still in his party

>>507271563
I'm not saying yellow is bad with them, just that red feels like it gives me more with those. With 2 FOTF charges and IOD running, I really don't hurt for CDR to spam with. If I'm not running IOD, then yellow gets more appealing, but most of my builds are BP these days since it's just better than IJ, and I only have a Martyr set-up for the RB and Chaxe/TH. With Vet, I don't ever really need to Shout consecutively for toughness, and I run Shredders on my builds for additional CC, so again, red seems more impactful.

>>507270379
>its literally not, because that happened before it was imprisoned
The Emperor defeated the dragon long before he took over and declared himself Emperor.
He imprisoned it on Mars before the Age of Strife, which means the dragon would 100% have been on Mars before the revolt and being used to influence mankind's technological growth.
It's not far fetched to assume that all of humanity's tech comes from reverse engineering the Dragon's C'tan tech.
The Emperor's Palace on Terra is basically a giant man-made tomb.

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Skitarii class would be an actual money printer with different forge world colors

>>507272667
Skitarii is plural, heretic. The singular is skitarius. You don't play a veterans, a zealots, or a psykers.

>>507272667
i just want the galvanic rifle and transuranic arquebus, wood on guns is kino

>>507272667
Why do you keep insisting on Skitarii when a Tech Priest would give us way more options and freedom
They’re essential weapon jockeys

nobody is putting up 40s ahhhhh
im gonna miss out on next weeks materialssssssss

>>507272792
sorry sah

>>507272298
Wasn’t it just a single shard of the dragon that Emps beat? Kinda crazy

SERVITOR CLASS
SERVITOR CLASS
SERVITOR CLASS
SERVITOR CLASS

SKITARIUS TECH PRIEST GO TO HECK AND FRICK YOUR SELVES

>>507272901
because "assuming direct control"

>>507272932
you’re about to catch this 40. in your ass, cuck

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>occasionally check r*ddit to keep my finger on the pulse of what retards think
>still see reports of people struggling to even get to 40, to this day
>one guy reported getting hardstuck at 29 or something with 12+ attempts
>several claims about it being way too hard
>using truelevel mod and playing aurics, wild retards I see in the low-mid 20s are often the worst players imaginable
>havoc 0-1 players are usually better than these ASS-turds
>other 40s often don't give a fuck and will do whatever, but will immediately rally once shit inevitably hits the fan, and reliably know what to do
>a handful of /copeg/ers immediately start sperging out when you talk about havoc, heavily implying they're similarly hardstuck
Is it really that bad? Is the average player really that bad?
PoE2 is the only reason it took me two weeks to get to 40, I didn't have much time to do gaming, and what little I did play, was dedicated to a better game. Shit still only took me a dozen games, and then another handful to get true survivor. With randoms.
>some of these retards are struggling with dedicated tryhard sweat groups
Genuinely, how?

>>507273007
Yeah, true. Other bits and pieces are around the galaxy somewhere. Just the one shard is still super powerful though.

>>507273121
you have to use a bottle of malt liquor because you are a limp dick FAGGOT

gottem

>>507271380
>>507271563
Blue stim increases casting speed for Psyker.

>>507270501
red stim knower here
big numbers over all else

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>>507273516
Smigger-chan won...

>>507272932
I'm gonna post my weekly 40 in exactly 5mins on party finder NA east

>>507270379
>chomping at the bit
*champing at the bit

>>507273897
Wish you'd done this earlier in the day. Now I'm sleepy

>>507270501
>Using your ability more is the strongest thing you can possibly contribute.
Oh great. It's the tranner who constantly recommemds 3 cooldown reduction curios

>>507273820
On the one hand, I can totally see smigger-chan getting to 40 without too much trouble, considering bubble smite is actually quite good (and easy).
On the other hand, I assume by default that any obnoxious shitposter is completely malicious, and thus a liar, because it's piss easy to just edit the badge and penance onto an image of AI slop.

>>507273897
LIAR

>>507274215
>implying it isn't
Self-reported malicelet, I see.
Tranner is a faggot but 4% CDR is basically the strongest curio perk you can have, with a small handful of very specific exceptions, build-wise. Your abilities have cooldown for a reason, if you can break that, you can break the game. If you think otherwise, you must only play scrier's gaze or something.

>>507274368
I dont give a shit about 12% CDR when I can get my ult back by killing like 5 specials retard

>>507274368
>bro, you NEED a 3 second cooldown reduction, bro. Think what you could do with 3 whole seconds
Shut it, retard

>>507274642
It wont even be 3 seconds. Every class has a significant amount of CDR talents that get picked regardless. Like let's say a match takes 20 minutes and had 200 elites in it. That's literally 1000% CDR on psyker. Who gives a fuck about 12%

>>507274368
>Tranner is a faggot but 4% CDR is basically the strongest curio perk you can have
That's pretty dependent on what the rest of your build is. Shout Vets and IOD+FOTF Zealots don't really care about the 3-4 second discount after sacrificing 3 curio perks. On the one hand, that CDR is always benefiting you, but there are times where things like block cost reduction and/or ally revive speed come in clutch, and Sprint Eff is always nice to have with all the sprinting you do. Didn't bring up stamina regen because it's not something I ever replace on Vet, Zealot, or Psyker (don't play Ogryn really). I'd much rather take Block Cost + Stamina Regen + Ally Res/Sprint Eff/Gunner Res on a Shout Vet or FOTF Zealot (can't be fucked to build separate curios for builds with and without IOD).

I unironically agree with many of the things I've heard Tanner say. But things like the CDR perk being omega-super-awesome "if you don't run this, you're dumb and bad and should kill yourself" tier or Zealot grenades being trash are hard "no"s from me. The CDR is good, but so are a few of the other perk options, and the CDR matters a lot less on some of the more common builds.

>>507272901
NTA but: Skitarii count in the infinite basically (for all intents and purposes). Tech Priests? Not so much. A Tech Adept even would get turned into a servitor. A Tech Priest would be killed outright because they're too dangerous. Meanwhile a Skitarii would basically just be a cyborg Zealot in terms of motivation and repentance. Skitarii comes baked in with a bunch of weapons that don't need to be made up (something GW would drag their feet on if the Ogryn is any indication), and has several classes. Plus, there is a genetor on the Mourningstar now that they slipped in at some point when they added more mission directors to the older missions and revamped parts of the missions. Hab Dreyko is where they talk about him. It'd be very simple to find a Reject, have them turned into a Skitarii, and just churn them out. From a lore standpoint, given that Tertium is a Hiveworld with a major industrial base it would be fairly explicable as to how these Skitarii are being made. Certainly a lot easier to fucking explain than the endless horde of Psykers and Ogryns.

The whole argument for having 3 CD curios rests on you thinking 3 seconds is superduper valuable
The whole
>getting more ability uses throughout a mission is the most valuable you can possibly imagine!
Shit is literally just people repeating what they heard a youtuber say and treating it as an unquestionable fact

>>507275091
The argument that Tanner is making is based around High Havoks and Auric Maelstroms. He says this flat out. If you aren't doing a gametype where there isn't a lot of Elites/Specials being shit out then there's no point. Just like taking Gunner perks on High Havok is retarded: you're gonna die the second two of them look at you and get a burst off even if you triple stack.

>>507274451
>>507274642
t. hardstuck in havoc 20

>>507274934
>Shout Vets and IOD+FOTF Zealots don't really care about the 3-4 second discount after sacrificing 3 curio perks
Thing is, the cdr interacts with other sources of cdr. If you want to argue that your cdr talents or psykinetic aura are good, then cdr on curios just becomes even better. Having to kill 1 less elite to get your shout back often makes the difference in a hairy situation, especially when you pay attention to the rest of the team's toughness and shout to get them back to full, for example.
>block cost reduction
Somewhat of a meme a lot of the time, not that I'm discounting its use. Getting your ability earlier to stun the enemies would mean not having to block at all, for example.
>revive speed
Same as above, plain unneeded, and effectively planning for failure. Not actually terrible, I've liked it the couple times I used it, but I'll always take cdr first, and gunner/bomber resist second.
>stamina regen
IS pretty good.

>>507275091
>being contrarian to the fat brown tranny living rent free in your head
Consider that one can independently come to the same conclusion, and that it has nothing to do with some retarded jewtuber. That faggot has plenty of retarded takes, but even infinite monkeys on typewriters will occasionally come up with masterpieces.

>>507275317
>you want CDR on high havocs
no you don't, you want a psyker with psykinetic aura and you can just spam your ult then, 12% doesn't matter. It's self contradictory advice. CDR matters more the less density there is

>>507257187
>>>/wsg/5765272

>>507275552
why do you keep uploading and linking these, what's the point of them

>>507275317
>>507275405
>The argument that Tanner is making is based around High Havoks and Auric Maelstroms. He says this flat out
Same difficulties that i play. Tranner and this other retard here both started recommemding 3 CD curios long before havoc was even a thing so now you're just being a dishonest little faggot

>>507275713
he's really upset that someone said they turn voice modulation off, because he thinks buying that $12 helmet was reaaaaally worth it

>>507273516
For the first week I wasn't going for high havoc. The second week I hit 40 and got True Survivor.
Now I'm back to slowly farming 1-10.

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>>507275734
Not the same poster, retard.
>gunner resist guy
3x20% gunner resist is fucking excellent. Going from instagib to having a half second to react makes a massive difference, idk what this idiot is talking about.

>>507275713
When was the last time I did it, a year ago? Why are you so fixated on it?
>>507275769
>>>/wsg/5765276

>>507275317
>taking Gunner perks on High Havok is retarded
now I know why all the retards in my "Havok" pugs instajob to reapers lol

>>507275963
The damage is so high that your resistance doesn't matter.

>>507272901
Because skitarii would fit much better into our lineup. If we had spacemarine instead of guards vet and SoB instead of zealot — then Techpriest would be a better fit.

>>507275909
You can just open that file in audacity and get a cooler voice filter

>>507276026
The damage is so high that being able to resist matters.
You also spend all of your actual combat time under at least 100 piss toughness, and resist means it doesn't instantly get stripped.
Please never join my havocs.

>>507275317
>The argument that Tanner ... then there's no point
Yes? Aurics and Maelstroms were the assumption. Havocs are too niche to not specifically address independently. But Ironically, these are all the modes where Vets and Psykers running their CDR talents need a CDR curio perk the LEAST.
>Just like taking Gunner perks on High Havok is retarded
If it saves me any amount of toughness/HP from a small slip-up against some of the biggest threats, then it's not bad.

>>507275405
>Thing is, the cdr interacts with other sources of cdr.
This is not something I've ever seen proven or affirmed, even when asking people if the perk affected things like IOD or whatever Vet's node is called. What I do notice from it is a flat reduction to my ability cooldown once it's been used, but there's no interaction between the two. If you have a source producing irrefutable proof of the CDR perk boosting other sources of CDR, then please link it. I would genuinely love to find this out once and for all.
>Having to kill 1 less elite to get your shout back often makes the difference in a hairy situation
Again, I'm not saying the CDR perk isn't good. I'm just saying that it's not as amazing and mandatory as he and others claim.

>Somewhat of a meme a lot of the time
It's useful for positioning errors, lots of rager aggro, boss aggro, and reviving teammates. Not a super applicable skill, but when you need it, it's extremely helpful. Less good than it was in VT2 obviously.
>Same as above, plain unneeded, and effectively planning for failure
If you don't think your idiot teammates are going to get downed a lot, you're smoking crack. Unless you play premades, allies going down is a given. The only place with semi-reliable teammates is H40s. It's far easier to grab people on a Shredder toss with Ally Res. Once you've grabbed stamina regen, curio perks aren't so valuable you can't take something like ally res with niche use.
>stamina regen
>merely "pretty good"
top fucking kek

>>507276089
I already did True Survivor, I'm done with high level havoc.
Let me know when they start dropping red weapons.

>>507276026
would make sense if it was true, the resist affords you a reaction time in most cases whereas without it you don't have one and instakneel. This is the same retarded mindset as the people who head into havoc with 50 toughness ogryns and wonder why they get absolutely raped with no counterplay. It's not about being able to tank shit it's about being able to react to shit

>>507273516
Yes anon. I have the receipts, half the retards around here can't handle 20s. CopeG is a shitterzone.

>>507276026
>>507276164
Thank goodness there's an anon here with a functional brain. Obviously you're not too of toooonking gunner fire. Its so that you don't get raped while between dodges and slides moving to the next piece of solid cover. Being able to take 5-6 shots instead of 2-3 is a huge difference.

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>me, a god player: +10% ordo dockets blue curios
>you, shitters: whatever tryhard crutch you have to use in order to not die to one poxwalker

>>507275891
>Not the same poster, retard
Never said it was. I was responding to both, fucking mongoloid bitch

>brooo I am the best havoc man, I am the true survivor, I am the best john darktide
>the psyker using trauma staff exclusively, spamming bubbles on top of him:
https://youtu.be/rL5-Bj3QXXg

>>507276092
>If you don't think your idiot teammates are going to get downed a lot, you're smoking crack.
You said it yourself, very high havocs don't go down every 2 minutes. I just don't think it's worth committing curio perks to picking up the moron that takes a whole 3-4 steps before going down again because he doesn't know how to slide. If your teammates are dumb enough for res speed to be useful, your teammates aren't useful.
Also on that argument, if your teammates are bad, getting more chorus/shouts/bubbles should be an even greater help.
>>stamina regen
>>merely "pretty good"
>top fucking kek
It's class and build dependent. Psyker is so cucked for stats (including stamina) that it can be difficult to justify with some builds, while others want a +3 with regen perks. Veteran is similarly build dependent, to where you either zoom around the map all the time, or slowly creep forward with the team. I don't think zealot needs it, and I like full stamina regen on ogryn, but I've never bothered to analyze how good or bad it actually is.
Stamina management in general excels pretty hard at clutching, but I'd rather never even get to the point where I'm forced to clutch.

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>>507276402
>anon claims to be a phenomenal player
>playing the game a lot is a requirement to reaching this state
>isn't loaded in fucking dockets already
Never post Holo smug in my thread again, you lying fucking nerd faggot.

>>507276402
>xhi doesn't put 30% exp on xhir curios like the level 3000 chinkoids

If you farm levels for something you need a mod to even be able to see, you have autism

>>507276446
>your havoc 40 rank doesn't count unless you use suboptimal 4fun builds and get carried by your team using optimal builds
ok?

>they didn't even get their havoc 40 with a team of vets with gray devil's claws and no shout

>>507276657
I would agree, if the reality of the situation weren't different.
>first 2 weeks of havoc
>got rejected for playing all 4 classes and not being level 800 on the one I apply with
>host picks some level 1200 ASS-turd
>still see some memorable names weeks later hosting low 30s while I already have my 40 and true survivor

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>>507276503
>>>>>playing the game a lot is a requirement to reaching this state
>he wasn't a god player after finishing tutorial
ngmi

>>507276606
actually true... i am switching to purple curios with dockets and xp now...

>>507276657
I know a guy who runs maelstroms with mmt and clips out of the map 50+ times a day for like 200 levels a day

>>507276446
I don't like Psyker, I just spammed zealot relic

>>507276928
kek, now I'm curious how

>>507276849
I got my havoc 40 on literally day 3. I think I was the first person to bragpost it here

I don't even play coop games I just like to incite arguments.

>>507276491
>You said it yourself, very high havocs don't go down every 2 minutes.
And again, this discussion doesn't revolve solely around Havocs. Havocs have a niche meta independent of Aurics and Maelstroms. I'm pretty sure that video Tanner made about this shit was made before Havocs released too. Now, I will say that the CDR should be mandatory for Havoc Chorus Zealot because that's like 7 or 8 seconds off the 60s cooldown or something. But that's also not Shout Vet or FOTF, like I specifically mentioned not really giving a shit about the CDR earlier.
>I just don't think it's worth committing curio perks to picking up the moron that takes a whole 3-4 steps before going down again because he doesn't know how to slide
This is a slight strawman. Not everyone who gets downed once or twice is THAT big of a shitter. Having the extra person takes pressure off the rest of the team. Additionally, one person getting down can often result in 2-3 other people getting downed, so being able to recover these situations can, at times, be critical. Like I said, it's a niche purpose, but it can be very helpful. If you aren't getting your Shout up in time to pick someone up with it, then it's not often the extra 3-4 seconds will have made the difference (though of course it'll happen).

>Veteran is similarly build dependent, to where you either zoom around the map all the time, or slowly creep forward with the team
I don't know what you mean. I don't shoot non-stop with any Vet build, even Recon Las, and stamina is extremely useful in melee. As for "slowly creeping forward with the team"... what? The only thing that makes me think of is crouch MF shit, which is just wrong and bad.
>I don't think zealot needs it
On weapons that don't use push attacks often, it usually doesn't NEED it. But it's still far more desirable than any other curio perk.
>but I'd rather never even get to the point where I'm forced to clutch.
Well it happens, and the stamina regen will save your life there.

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, bros?
Dont they know charts indicative of popularity or growth?

>>507277164
>And again, this discussion doesn't revolve solely around Havocs.
Yeah, that's fair. If you assume that everyone else is a significantly less confident and/or useful player, shit like +3 stamina makes a pretty big difference with how much you'll be forced to run around.
>>Veteran is similarly build dependent, to where you either zoom around the map all the time, or slowly creep forward with the team
>I don't know what you mean.
In the sense that you stick with your team at all times if possible, to keep pissing on them. Slowly creeping forward because your less skilled and less confident players are never, ever, ever going to progress through the map quickly enough to where stamina matters, usually. Or they spread out and fucking die, where you do want stamina. And then again, you can just sprint for a split second and slide, to conserve stamina, unless you're zooming around with knife.
>push attacks
Sure, yeah. Especially outside of havocs, justifying a +3 with regen and maybe even block becomes a lot easier, but you're also far less pressed for optimization anyway, and 4% cdr then translates to 4% more fun imo, if we're arguing lower difficulties.

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>Yes, I paid twelve dollars for a helmet with tissue paper tied to it.

>>507277942
I only spent 15 dollars on aquilas in total, if they reduced the price of cosmetics down to 1/3 or even 1/2 of what they are now I would probably buy a lot more aquilas.

>>507277476
>In the sense that you stick with your team at all times if possible, to keep pissing on them. Slowly creeping forward because your less skilled and less confident players are never, ever, ever going to progress through the map quickly enough to where stamina matters, usually.
Ohhh. Yeah, I can see that. I usually just end up driving shit forward, and they follow behind anyway. Vet makes a fine spear tip, at least outside Havoc.
> And then again, you can just sprint for a split second and slide, to conserve stamina, unless you're zooming around with knife.
Right, but sprinting isn't the only use for stamina. That's more of an argument against Sprint Efficiency (and the main reason I don't actually run it outside of Stripped Down memebuilds). When the pressure is high and you get forced to block/push and kite because of a Rager blob or just a general abundance of garbage because others are down/dead, being able to get stamina up quickly once more is vital. If you get too close to a Bulwark and eat the shield slam that kills your stamina, getting it back can be important. If you're reviving people through hits, getting stamina back up quickly is useful. It's just an all around strong pick, and it's found in a sea of otherwise mediocre, niche, or outright bad options.

>Especially outside of havocs, justifying a +3 with regen and maybe even block becomes a lot easier, but you're also far less pressed for optimization anyway
Sure, but that doesn't stop people from making YouTube videos or others from following what YouTubers say. I don't really care what gear people run in aurics or Maelstroms, but that still doesn't change my opinions on what is/isn't good, great, optimal, mandatory, or utter dog shit.
>4% cdr then translates to 4% more fun imo
More ability = more fun is unironically the main argument in CDR's favor as a universally prime curio pick, but it also has nothing to do with whether or not the YouTuber was correct in his assertion.

>>507276928
I caught 2 ogryns doing that like 8 months ago, they clipped through the giant metal door in smelter factory where you have to hack think he jumped around the right side and got picked up

or died at the door and got picked up either or

>>507276849
sure having higher level than 0 does help some with being chosen, but everyone knows people with like 1000-3000 are mentally ill farmers, so I dont think it would help you that much being insanely high

>get walled at 30
>CBA because it makes me feel terrible each time we lose
>go and grind other stuff in the game instead

I figure what I'll do is keep at Zealot to get better with the class, and then whenever they add more Havok shit so people play it again regularly I will push for 40 and TS since I won't be so shitty. Every time I played 35+ we just got smoked halfway through the mission and it felt like a waste of time because I wasn't learning why it happened or what I could have potentially done to prevent that in the first place.

>>507278918
Consistently succeeding in Havoc 30+ outside of skilled premades is basically
>Are you all together and not actively being shit on by shooters/gunners?
>Are you in the bubble? Why aren't you in the bubble, retard? You better have a good fucking reason.
>Did your teammates piss on you? Did you piss on them? Are you currently pissing so that the flame bots are flaming things more safely?
>You brought flamebots, right?
If something there is absent, you're in for a much, much rougher go.

>>507279209
I noticed that the "meta" is two Zealots, a Psyker, and one Vet. I know what the Zealots do (both Chorus or one Chorus and the other FoTF), and I know that the Vet brings shout but what does the Vet contribute? I've heard a few people say that they use Heavy Las but I have never used it and don't know how effective it is as a weapon against enemies with that much durability and that much health. I understand though that they take it because Scavenger means they don't need to dip into ammo that the Flamer Zealot could be picking up. Overall I am just really turned off from Havoks because I'm nowhere near good enough to run whatever, and I hate the DS. I'd do Havok 40 for the titles and bragging rights exactly one time, but never again after that if I have to bring the DS.

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REMINDER
if you post ANY opinion on Darktide meta/loadouts/skills you NEED to post your havoc 35+ proof, otherwise your opinion is literally worthless

>>507279954
>but what does the Vet contribute
I'm mostly a Zealotfag and haven't done high Havocs with my Vet, so I couldn't confidently tell you. Obviously, the shout provides great CC and the piss blanket on a low cooldown. Beyond that, what I've observed from others though is that Plasma is helpful with all the density, and any Infernus lasgun is going to be ammo efficient while also getting around pox-hardened skin (fire damage is unaffected by the ranged damage reduction of the PHS). My first H40 had a vet with some sort of autogun, and while we won, I don't think he was on the money with that.
>I understand though that they take it because Scavenger means they don't need to dip into ammo that the Flamer Zealot could be picking up.
Survivalist is also key for maintaining the third shooter's ammo (if there is one). If I run the Bolt Pistol (with no throwing knives), I don't have to pick up any ammo, even from crates, throughout the whole game if there's a Survivalist Vet present.
>Overall I am just really turned off from Havoks because I'm nowhere near good enough to run whatever, and I hate the DS
The Relic Blade is quite strong in Havocs, all the way up to 40. Run it with Wrath, Rampage, Unyielding, and Carapace, and it'll perform great. It's not as good at picking elites out as the DS, but you tarpit very well for a flamer Zealot and/or Purg Psyker, clear whatever side of the horde isn't currently on fire, and deal with groups of non-ogryn elites easily (fighting Rager groups with the RB is a joke). If you don't enjoy the Relic Blade, then I got nothing. I've barely put it down since we got it, and that was mostly to zip around with a Heavy Sword in aurics.

>>507279954
>what does the Vet contribute
NTA but easiest thing you can do as vet is grenade spam build probably and having ammo aura is always good.

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Read this
Im going to bed.
Goodnight

>>507280686
>>507279954
Oh yeah, the grenades are great. Can't believe I forgot to mention them. Either grenade pick is good. Kraks being able to knock out some Ogryn and chunk bosses is definitely valuable, and Shredders are just the fucking GOAT of grenades in this game, at least considering the quantity of them that Vet can throw.

>>507277164
>Chorus Zealot
Thats not meta, its trash.