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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #7736 - Mean Characters Edition

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Teaser Trailer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wV5wnYM11pQ

>A Very Sonic Christmas
https://youtu.be/z2QIiOy6aw8

>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailer
https://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4

>Sonic the Hedgehog x DC Comics Collaboration
https://youtu.be/pCpY090QHRI
https://x.com/IDWSonicNews/status/1870167326655726062

>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailer
https://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE

>IDW Release Dates:
Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #77 - 19 March 2025
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #1 - 19 March 2025

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Shadria!
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>>507262995
Lanolin wishes she was as good as Fleetway.
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>too mean for the fandom
the fandom are into mean characters (Shadow). as long as they are not obnoxious to watch (Boom Shadow)
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Guys I'm starting think Sonic 3 might actually flop.
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>>507262995
From the thumbnail I thought they were holding hands
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>>507262995
Canon Silver should be added to that image
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Maybe Shadow SHOULD fuck tenrecs!!!
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Why does it matter what she's done?
Raping that sheep is the only way to save your future...
She's at the station now...
This is your only chance...
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>>507263248
kill yourself duonigger
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>>507262995
Fleetway Sonic stopped being mean at the end of his comic.
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>>507263162
December openings being muted is the norm. We'll have to see how it pans out over the rest of the month.
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>>507262995
>Too mean
>Its just her being stupid
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>>507262995
>>507262665
>>507263034
Its Drop percent
That mean Sonic is frontload type, weaker leg than Mufasa
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>>507263304
People who make a hobby of analyzing box office numbers are also saying this doesn't look good.
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>>507263162
How much has it made so far, and how does it compare to where 1 and 2 were this long after release?
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SKEWER Amy
BURN Amy
CRUSH Amy
KILL Amy
DESTROY Amy
OBLITERATE Amy
DISINTEGRATE Amy
VAPORIZE Amy
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>>507263248
Most people would be begging for hot tenrec sex, Shadow should be grateful that Surge keeps trying to hold him down and fuck him.
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Shadria law
Make sure you practice your Shadria statements.
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>>507263248
>>507263437
please stop spamming this ship
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>>507263315
stupid like silver yes. makes you wonder how well his story would be received today
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I know people who used to talk to Evan regularly. If being able to talk to her would radically change things, the comic would already be what /sthg/ wants it to be.
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>>507263213
Silver isn't uwuver, but MEANver is just on the opposite end of the spectrum on fandom misinterpretations.
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>>507263295
>>507263476
Shut up krack
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>>507263392
Is that so? Have they offered any insight as to why?
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>>507262995
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>>>507256832
> Silver is Blaze's Amy
I will do a better one, Espio is Silver's Blaze.
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>>507262995
I need more Wonder Woman Amy
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>>507263269
I want to strike her flower with my chicken, and fill her egg with my seed, if you know what I mean
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>>507263562
Based tangle btfo shitolin.
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>>507263130
Shadow and Maria are so beautiful together
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>>507263476
Holy shit maybe Shadougecunt was right
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Just a reminder that Superman struggles to beat Darkseid and offen loses, He would destroy Super Sonic and Super Shadow no limiter rings
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>>507263449
I love Shadria!
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>>507263657
Why do you fight so hard for someone who will betray you?
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>>507263514
Silver is canonically mean, rude, and abrasive, people just miss the fact that his meanness stems from him being overprotective of the things he cares about.
He's the kind that enjoys a bit of friendly competition, but HATES violence, losing, and anything he takes as a slight against him or his friends.
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>>507263752
And why do you care about this?
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>>507263752
Ian will copy the intro of the Metarex arc for the opening of the DC crossover
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>>507263476
I will post whatever I want.
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>>507263449
>Shadria
isn't shadria literally ntr in this context
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>>507263562
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>>507263392
I’m sure they are.
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>>507263732
all i did was ask politely. they haven't even met. you keep spamming these nonsense crackships with shadow. guess i will just filter mentions of it then
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For comprasion
>Sonic 1 - Open on Feb - 58M
>Sonic 2 - Open on April - 72M
>Sonic 3 - Open on Dec - 60M
Which is not bad, as its open on Dec, so OW would be lower than Summer, but due to this is Superheroes franchise, it would mean that it is frontload
So, i dont know if this one's leg would be high enought to surpass Sonic 2's number
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>>507263947
Scribble's comic takes place after most of the game stuff and Maria is long dead at that point
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Why are zoomers like this
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>>507264108
Can you put Duo back in your filenames? Thanks.
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>Nobody: ...
>Silverfag: Let me tell you how Silver should be written
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I raise a glass of wine and cheer for the ansolute defeat of dragniggers, happy xmas, happy 2025 and we may never see any of them ever again
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>>507264131
who cares
I hope sega as whole fails
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>>507264240
Bruh they hold hands in the games and in Sonic x. wtf is wrong with these ppl
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>>507263562
>>507263961
>>507264108
Serves her right
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>>507264108
can you make that into a strapless dress
i crave
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COWER IN FEAR!
AMY ROSE IS HERE!
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>>507263752
>Sonic is as fast as the Flash
>the Flash can speedblitz Superman
>Super Sonic is massively superior to Sonic in all areas
Ehhhh...
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>>507264319
I hope sega as whole cums
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>>507264131
I want to ask a very autistic question.
What are the ticket prices of all 3 movies in the US?
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>>507263626
I mean
If We are framing Blaze as Sonic than the silvaze artist is saying that Silver is Blaze's Amy, and Blaze would be Silver's Sonic to his Amy.

What is not being accounted for is triangle dynamics because each "Sonic" has not one preferred partner but two, Amy and Blaze.

So Silver has his own "Blaze" which is NOT Blaze, that character being the one he has a more intimate bond with which is Espio.

Blaze has her own "Amy" and Sonic which are respectively Silver and Sonic himself.
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>>507264294
>dragniggers
What did Surgefags ever do to you?
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>>507264476
>>Sonic is as fast as the Flash
I wonder if they're gonna pull the trigger on it. I doubt SEGA would let Sonic get shown up entirely, unless the costume is Flash teaching Sonic how to tap into the Speed Force or something.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0eTV-KpdI0
Is he right?
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>>507264057
>They haven't met
Sonic has never met the Ninja turtles but everyone knows they would have a great time together. Why are you so hung up on this? She would like Shadow and Shadow would definitely plow her.
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So Sonic 3’s opening weekend isn’t as big as Sonic 2’s. Big whoop. It’s still #1 in the box office, no one is seeing movies right now, wait til after Christmas.
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*BEEP* *BEEP*
Best ship coming through.
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Anyone think the Sonic 2 trailers are better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5kzUpWAusI
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>>507264240
>>507264331
A combination of rising puritan culture, feeling entitled to the entirety of the internet (and beyond), and inability to separate fiction from reality
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>>507264576
Surge is a drag?
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>>507264527
They went up since 2. The God Emperor's tariffs are going to completely gut the remains of the US economy and usher in a societal collapse so movie 4 is doomed.
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Shadow x Sonic…
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>>507264689
Stfu Taylorfag
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>>507263449
Shadow should have his face more relaxed when he's around Maria
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>>507264671
>Off model
Surge would definitely like Shadow, but he would certainly ignore her and she'd have to be the one chasing after him.
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>>507264782
We’ll be dead by then, don’t worry about it.
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>>507264850
You are wrong.
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>>507264240
>hand holding
very naughty >:(
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>>507264476
>Sonic is as fast as the Flash
AHHAHAHGAHAGAHHAHHAH
Lol
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>>507264476
You can't dodge or outrun Darkseids omega beams. And Sonic isn't experienced enough to redirect them to a different target.
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>>507264671
Shadow would not do that. Weird self-inserting incel.
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>>507264908
You are wrong.
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>>507264850
>halflidshit
fuck off, there is nothing wrong with shadows expressions. he is perfect as is. i hate you people so much its unreal.
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>>507264840
I’m not your boogieman.
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>>507264908
How? He looks ferocious. Maria makes him blush.
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>>507265052
Stop trying to change Shadow into something he isn't.
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>>507264959
Man it's really easy to break Silver's focus huh?
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>>507263752
Him and the JL will all be nerfed to shit so the Sonic babs can keep up
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>>507265180
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>>507265047
Stfu Taylorfag
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>>507265218
>Split second smirk
>>507265228
>Different universe
You do not like Shadow.
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>>507265180
I don't like the whole "Shadow finds Maria annoying" stuff. She's the one person he should be vulnerable around
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It’s going to be one of those kinds of nights again.
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>>507264680
Sonaze and Silvamy confirmed!
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Mark the Heuughhgh
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>>507264531
>>507264680
> It's not pairs, it's several triangles.

So Sonic/Amy/Shadow would be yet another one considering the lore team thinks they go out together, which clearly throws a bone to their shippers.
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>>507264993
Shadow isn't relaxed around Maria, he's always shown as either uncomfortable or confused due to him not being able to understand the meaning behind her acts of kindness.
Shadow doesn't think "I'm glad to be spending my time with this cute girl :3" he thinks "Why is this girl spending her dying moments wasting her time on me?". He can't wrap his head around such a simple concept and that's part of what makes him such an interesting and tragic character.
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>>507265349
>I am too retarded to realize Shadow loves Maria without a significant expression change
Okay? Go like a different character then.
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>>507265294
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>>507263414
Based RealDash
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>>507265349
Then just say you don't understand him, and go find some other character to obsess over.
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>>507265394
I think the stupid manga ruined how you see Shadow. Now he has to have this predatory snake eye look to him all the time and I hate it. Nobody said the things you are saying until a few months ago.
He's looking at her playing with a guitar, he shouldn't look like he's battle ready. She isn't even dead yet, he has no trauma, why is he on edge?
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Honey the Cat!
Blaze the Cat!
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>>507265349
Annoyance can be lighthearted and endearing. It means he cares about her and wants her to be well. He doesn't want her to suffer her NIDS complications.
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>>507263514
Silver is supposed to be rude and abrasive in general but also kind. He's the opposite of Eggman Nega who is hyper polite but cold and cruel.
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>>507264612
It'd mean Archie Sonic isn't the strongest version of Sonic anymore.
>>507264931
Iizuka said so, who am I to argue with the head of Sonic Team?
>>507264940
I'm not even saying that base Sonic can beat Darkseid, I'm saying that Super Sonic can if base Sonic is as fast as the Flash, which Iizuka thinks he is.
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holy shit it's just a drawing
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>>507265365
>yellow Amy
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>>507265582
I would rather he look snake eyed than half lidded annoyed around Maria
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>>507265349
I guess it depends on your definition of "annoying"
Doing a Walmart Vegeta™ would be 100% wrong and stupid
But showing some minor irritation every now and then would be pretty in character and actually kind of cute
Shadow is the kind of person who needs some "Me Time" in order to function, so him getting cranky when his social battery runs out it's definitely accurate
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>>507265394
This. Weird how this place is supposedly filled with adults and yet they cannot wrap their heads around such a simple concept that has been spelled out for everyone multiple times.

"We should change the character and the way he expresses himself to fit my headcanon better, because I don't like him as is" pisses me off beyond belief.
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anybody else self insert as amy in sonamy
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>>507264931
And then Flash gets punched by a normal street guy at normal speed.

This seems to be a theoretical maximum, not a consistent performance thing.

Sonic's theoretical maximum probably rivals flashes, he also gets punched by people at normal speeds.
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>>507264931
I can believe that Sonic had the potential to be as fast as the flash. But as of now, no.
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>>507265582
>She isn't even dead yet, he has no trauma, why is he on edge?
He is an artificial lifeform that was never designed to feel emotion or love. He's closer to a robot than a living being, and Maria trying to get him to open up and learn what makes living life so beautiful is what makes their dynamic unique and endearing.
Having him just be a regular guy stricken by grief ruins one of the more interesting parts about his character, and actually makes the fact that he lost Maria before he could properly understand the lessons she was trying to teach him and return her acts of kindness less impactful as a result.
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>>507265582
>Posts OOC fanart
He was always like this. Go fuck yourself.
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>>507265910
Nah, I self insert as her human lover whenever Sonic runs away.
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>>507266057
meh....
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>>507265716
How much does Iizuka actually know about the Flash to think that? Does he even know about the attosecond feat?
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>>507265679
>Silver is supposed to be rude and abrasive in general but also kind.
That's a complete oxymoron, unless he's also rude and abrasive to himself and he thinks that's normal.
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>>507265582
leave shadow alone
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>>507266092
These are turning out fantastic tonight
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>>507266036
>never designed to feel emotion or love
Now that's a headcanon if I ever saw one. Nowhere was this made explicit or implied in the games.
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>>507265394
Couldn't have worded it better myself
Saved
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>>507266036
It makes me boil with anger to see people who want to erase the most fundamental aspects of the character while calling themselves a fan. If you want a character that is expressive and relaxed, it is not Shadow. He is not like that, never was like that, never will be like that, and never should be like that. I love Shadow for who he is. I don't want to change a thing about him.
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>>507266137
He barely knows English
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>>507266139
>"I think dogs are the cutest things in the world, I love those little guys..."
>*sees someone throwing rocks at a dog*
>"WHAT THE FUCKING HELL ARE YOU DOING! I'LL RIP YOUR FUCKING SPINE OUT YOU MONSTER!"
This is Silver. Seething hate born of both genuine love and incredible overprotectiveness.
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>>507266375
He can speak it decently well, it is very clearly not his area of expertise but he can understand basic conversation. Listen to him talk at recent cons.
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>>507266013
The difference between them is that Flash is a human with a connection to the speed force, if you severed that connection, he'd just be a fairly average human.
Sonic's speed is his own, it's either a part of his biology or it stems from his very soul, he's far from a glass cannon with how much punishment he can take.
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>>507266286
Nta but it's implied in Shadow Gens
There's like 3 differents lines of dialogue about Shadow being an artificial bloodthirsty warrior or some shit like that
You'd think it's just Black Doom trying to trick him, but then Gerald goes like
>Yeah son, I fucked up, sorry
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>>507266509
>Listen to him talk at recent cons.
At all his public appearances he has an interpreter translate anything beyond very basic sentences for him both ways
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>>507265582
>I think the stupid manga ruined how you see Shadow. Now he has to have this predatory snake eye look to him all the time and I hate it. Nobody said the things you are saying until a few months ago.
This.

>>507265394
Shadow has resting bitch face, you couldn't tell if he was relaxed or not based on his expression alone because of SEGA guidelines that he almost never smile (don't make pull out the expression mandate chart).
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>>507266610
Sonic's speed seem to be directly linked to chaos energy.

He uses rings to boost and to light speed dash, becomes much faster with chaos emeralds, has time and space manipulation powers, I believe Chaos Energy is almost a 1:1 equivalent to the speedforce.
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>>507266473
Add a blush to these expressions and you're golden.
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>>507264108
There was this anime I was watching where at one point, the main character's teacher's cowardice and strictness gets some students killed.
Later in the series, she actually tries to seduce him, not because she's into him but because the guilt had gotten to her to the point that she feels like she owes him sex. That's what SilverxLanolin feels like to me.
The series is called Revisions
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why does classic sonic suck so much?
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>>507266667
Posting official art that proves my point while also bringing up that SEGA doesn't want Shadow showing those kinds of emotions you're insisting he feels, doesn't help your argument at all.
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>>507266610
>>507266804
Friendly reminder about the minecarts in Planet Wisp
Sonic can transfer some of his own speed into random objects
If that's not "Speed Force", I don't know what to call it
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Why is shitdow so stiff?
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>>507262995
>too mean
Worse, she’s a buzzkill.
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>>507266092
>Areolas so big that the ribbons aren't wide enough to cover them
BUENO....
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"Shadow was always like this" no he wasn't. This is meta era Iizuka garbage that you're guzzling to make it sound like you know about the franchise
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>>507266978
It's ON MODEL for Shadow to look like that. not that he is angry. he just looks like this
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Autism....
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>>507266667
Snake-eyed Shadow is how he has always been though? Did you guys even play SA2 or watch X?
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2 days left until christmas anons
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>>507267145
It's literally just one samefag using different IPs to respond to themselves.
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>>507266139
>That's a complete oxymoron
Not really. He just has a punk attitude with a heart of gold. He'll insult anything that gets in his way or doesn't impress him but also loves the beauty of the world and people having smiles.
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>>507267012
This is how I see Sonic actually

He doesn't simply spins his legs fast to run, fucker is simply on chaos control 24/7 he is always manipulating time and space.
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>>507267193
Cringe.
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>>507267060
Maria makes him stiff
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>>507267285
go away potto nobody likes you or your drogune slop
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>>507266286
Shadow has always questioned his purpose in life and his reason for existing, with him becoming utterly attached to Maria's wish because he simply didn't have any desire to live his own life as his own person.
This is also why he's not friends with Rouge or Omega despite trusting them so much, he simply doesn't enjoy the things regular people find fun, simply existing to achieve some greater goal. You can tell this is STILL a matter of conflict for his character considering the end of Shadow where he tries to leave his past behind, and now the events of Shadow Gens where Maria tries to convince him to find another reason to live his life rather than just exist.
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I think snakes are actually a good point of reference for Shadow. Snakes are not evil, but they are aggressive. They don't know or care about the impression their expression gives.
They are actually capable of a wide range of expressions, more than us, since their jaws are not locked to a specific shape, but they have no reason to ever try and look warm or friendly. The impression they give other creatures is "danger" and rightfully so.
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>>507267385
Amy
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>>507265517
please stop btfo me
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>>507267532
LOL
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>>507266804
>>507267012
I was more talking about their differences than I was their speed.
Barry is a glass cannon, Sonic isn't, Sonic has plenty of powers that aren't related to going fast, Barry doesn't, this is because Sonic is the Legendary God and Barry is a human with the Speed Force.
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Shadow still being angry and stiff before Maria's death is fucking dumb
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Anyone Ring Race?
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If sonic can mess up surge that much, Imagine what shadow can do.
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>>507267575
Sonic is Flash + Goku conceptually.

He is not only a time + space manipulator like flash, he is also a shonen warrior that punches your shit.

That is ridiculously overpowered.
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Last one for tonight. Have a great evening.
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>>507267435
>he simply doesn't enjoy the things regular people find fun
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>>507267584
It's been months since the game came out and I still have only three stupid emeralds
Three out of fourteen
Maybe I suck
Maybe the game fucking sucks
Maybe we both suck
Point is, I'm not playing it again until it's properly modded into something more fun
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Reminds me of when my writing group project partner said he was awful out loud and I just stood there awkwardly not saying anything but thinking "Yeah, you are"
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Douge
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>>507264108
>for Silver
Fuck that. Lanolin is for human men.
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>>507267770
Shadow's wives are so beautiful
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i kinda wanna sniff shadow
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>>507266092
Didn't Ian flynn say something to the lines of "We wanted Whisper and Tangle to be a couple but due to Sega's restrictions we can't"?
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>>507267834
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>>507267770
Excellent! I'd say you saved the best for last, but that Sally one was pretty fucking nice.
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>>507267770
she’s so gorgeous
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Really controversial take:
Shadow's lack of expressiveness, which has been a thing since his debut, is very cute and adds to the character instead of taking away from it. It reminds you that he is artificial, but he isn't without a heart. He is perfect as is, and shouldn't need to be a relaxed smiling uwubean around Maria. Because his actions more than speak for themselves.
If you want Shadow to be a relaxed wholesome cinnamon roll, you do not like him.
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>>507267891
t.
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>>507265716
>Iizuka said so, who am I to argue with the head of Sonic Team?
I did not know Izuka compared Sonic's speed to the Flash until this thread.
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>>507267770
>no Tangle
Rest up anon.
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>>507267972
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which sonic character would this happen to?
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>>507267437
Yes, Shadow's cold expression makes him scream "danger". It's perfection. This fanartist gets it right.
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>>507268138
Silver
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>>507267563
>posts literal tranny scars
Yeah, you really don't like him, huh.
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>>507268138
Every male hedgehog
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>>507268009
Thanks. Sally looks nicer on-model, I'll be generating her like that moving foward. Merga will stay thicc.
>>507268090
My tangle model sucks unfortunately.
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>>507268114
Eh, pretty much then.
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Sonic needs a big strong hedgehog to comfort him
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>>507267583
>A brilliant man makes a robot
>The robot was meant to be either a tool or a weapon
>The robot was never meant to know love or have dreams of its own
>Someone sees this poor robot living a meaningless existence and tries to teach it what it means to be human
>The robot doesn't understand what any of these meaningless distractions are for, but tries to understand regardless
This is kino, and isn't unique to just Shadow, so it's not some kind of new concept that's impossible to understand.
>>507268028
Agreed 100%
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>>507268337
I have an autistic question, is Saleta possible? In Archie she's literally just Sally with darker fur. She's an obscure character so she has no lewds aside from this general specifically.
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>>507267563
Cute pic-
>>507268327
Oh god damn it I didn't even notice those
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>>507268417
That's more like Emerl than Shadow
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Y think we need her back?
Idk I'm kinda torn since she was kind of a bitch in archie.

Then again everyone was a bitch in archie.
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>>507267583
No it's not.
How would you feel if you were born in cold metal walls instead of in the warm arms of a loving mother, cunt? How would you feel if you were made just to cure someone only for you to fail right away? How would you feel if the people around you were scientists who didn't even view you as human? How would you feel if you were a lab experiment made with the ugly corrupt blood of an alien? How would you feel if everyone looked at you with fear and called you a freak for circumstances outside of your control?
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>>507268028
>He is perfect as is, and shouldn't need to be a relaxed smiling uwubean around Maria. Because his actions more than speak for themselves.
That's fine. As long as he isn't an eyerolling faggot like he was in the manga I'm happy
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>>507268089
My headcanon is that Super or Hypersonic don't actually make Sonic faster, the forms are simply stronger vessels for the infinite amount of energy Sonic's body can hold to break speeds faster than light.

Base Sonic could probably be as fast as super sonic, but his body would disintegrate if he tried to.
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>>507268028
>He is perfect as is
Basado
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>>507267584
Waiting for the big update they're working on.
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>>507263961
>>507264108
>The hazing of Lanolin has begun
Excellent
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>>507268469
Not possible with the current models, I'd have to train a model, 10 images are enough though.
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>>507268551
She should be portrayed as more of a bitch, just make it work with the story instead of compromising Sonic's character. The only issue with her is compromising Sonic's character. Sonic doesn't slow down for ANYONE.
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>>507267863
>Maybe the game fucking sucks
It's this. I understand that they were going for a Riders-esque kart racer, but the way it was implemented sucked donkey dick.
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>>507268386
>that size difference
Hnnngggg…
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>>507268687
Especially scenes like this which just doesn't fit his character at all.
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>>507268519
Gee, I wonder why Sonic compared the two to eachother in Battle.
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>>507268028
>>507268254
Fucking krack fags
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>>507268815
Absolutely. I can take her just fine. I'm willing to meet most OCs haflway. But halfway is it. Sonally has to go into the trash. The ship fundamentally breaks Sonic's personality.
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>>507268883
Image alone is depressing.
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>>507268595
? Shadow never rolls his eyes in the manga.
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>>507263414
So who's this guy again?
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>>507268898
>I'm willing to meet most OCs haflway
Fake fucking fan.
In his world, COMPROMISE DOES NOT EXIST.
And I won't give in, WON'T COMPROMISE.
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>>507269012
I'm not Sonic so it's ok if I compromise
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>>507267134
>half-lidded Shadow
I'M GOING INSANE AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>507268839
>I have no rebuttal
Shit and finished.
I won't be letting anyone desecrate the character I have spent my life researching and trying to understand, and if you try it, I will spend every day for years calling you a massive faggot until you leave.
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>>507268971
Best guess is that it's an OC. Never seen a gray hedgehog before in the series called archie.

Unless you count the personification of archie sonic, then here he is.
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>>507269092
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>>507267770
Thanks
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>>507268961
The page where he and Maria see the Earth
The page where he catches Maria after she falls sick
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>>507269092
>Retard cannot understand the difference between an angry expression that lasts for 1 second, and making it his default expression he keeps 24/7
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So we have
>Anons who hate it when Shadow has a snake-eyed stare
and
>Anons who hate it when Shadow is halflidded
and
>Shadow has officially done both of these
so who are the good guys today
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>>507268028
You guys are forgetting how much of a smug ass motherfucker Shadow is. He's not some fucking cute uwuwu robot all the time
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A bonus for my freedomplanet frens
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>>507268898
Nothing but fax here. Archie was legit sally and sonic having a love relationship while Amy was getting cucked.

That one was pretty cheesy altogether.
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It's not not fucking fair- of all people, it had to be her?!
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>>507268971
>>507269132
Artist here. The character's my OC Storm whose real name is Archibald (Archie). Still setting up their dynamic, but she calls him Archie when they're alone.
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cuckueen amy is based
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>>507269130
No YOU are the faggot here. Stop forcing your fucking headcanon
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>>507269265
What the fuck dude
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>>507269249
Good lord... I hate to sound like I'm begging, but could we get a Shadow version?
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>>507269206
>angry expression
Someone didn't play Heroes.
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>>507269215
Halflidshit isn't a thing in 00s media or the official art. It's a fan thing. All of his official art is normal.
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>overly emotional attachment to moments of a character taken out of context
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>>507269249
Good shit
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>>507269365
I see. Well so far so good, but out of all colors why grey dude? I mean your choice in the end.
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>>507269383
I know more about Shadow than you ever will.
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>>507269443
I'm done for tonight but I'll prioritize it for next time since that would take some time to complete
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>>507269572
hi rouge
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>>507269383
Krack got cucked off twitter now she's using this place to spam her autism
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BLOGPOST ALERT
i still havent watched the movie
i think getting amy spoiled for me killed any hype and then my friend saw it without me so i just dont care anymore
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>>507269682
kill yourself
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>>507269646
Good. Gerald gets a spine shoved up his butt.
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>>507269682
why would omega repost this
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>>507268815
Eh, if Sonic is not ever going to kiss his love interest, what would he do instead?

Grab hands and watch the sunset? Just talk vaguely about maybe liking the other while not doing much of anything?
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Shadow is NOT angry.
His face looks intimidating by default
Shadow half lid is ON MODEL. even if barely utilized
Shadow not showing in unleashed is OOC
Shadow not showing at all for the past 15 years is stupid and sega should be bullied for it
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>>507269682
people who draw this should be bullied off the internet
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>>507269581
I can hardly wait! These were probably my favorite Merga gens yet! Other than this one, I really like this one.
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>>507269468
You don't see many other characters with half-lidded eyes in official art either
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Almost half a million people have seen Shadow getting fingered in the ass
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She thinks she's hot shit but pair her up against shadow and the battle is over before they even start.
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Cool city.
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>>507269756
ew wtf
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>>507269012
In my radical opinion, you can canonize literally any Underground, Archie, AOSTH, Satam, IDW, X, Fleetway, Manga, Movie character ect but as an absolute rule you have to rip away all character traits that conflict with the games.
Surge cannot hate Sonic for being protective of Eggman. Eject it. Rewrite her character to adapt it.
Sally cannot be Sonic's girlfriend. There are already multiple versions where this isn't the case so you cannot keep it. Destroy it.
If you must give Sonic a family, his name must still be Sonic by birth. No bullshit where he was a normal Hedgehog mutated. No Maurice. None of that.
Sonic can't be an alien from another planet.
If Bunnie Rabbot or Rusty Rose exist, it's a specific freak situation. Eggman does not make a habit out of roboticizing Sonic characters. Roboticization is not normal. He puts small animal friends in badniks.
The actual game aspects cannot be moved, end of story.
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>>507269565
It's a holdover from the very first design I did back in 2011 (which was literally just recolored Sonic kek), which had him grey.
I didn't want him to be too overly colorful and risk making him look out of place, but I guess he still looks out of place either way. I figured that his gloves and boots would help better contrast and give him color.
But I've also been wanting to make a stupid drawing where someone somehow gets him mixed up with Storm the Albatross and doesn't seem to see a difference.
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>Sallyfags bargaining again.
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>>507269810
>even if barely utilized
Why can none of you get that it should NOT be all the time?
If you want to show it for a second or two when he's cocky or pissy, sure.
But pic rel is not Shadow. It should never be his default expression. Shadow is supposed to be alert and intimidating.
Why is this hard for people to understand?
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did shadow or lion king sell more?
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>>507270062
So far? Shadow.
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>>507270056
>Shadow cannot have more emotions than a fish
Shadow is not a fish
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>>507268090
you can ask an artist for it :>
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Who is your favourite Sonic character and favourite iCarly character?
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>>507270062
Sonic is better domestically, but it's very frontloaded. Mufasa has a stronger international market pull (because Disney), and is showing better legs so far.
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I feel like I've been getting gaslit by SEAnigs that can't into timezones for this movie
62 million only included box office up to the end of Saturday and it looks like it's going to be opening a little north of 75 million
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>Half of my socializing came from /sthg/ this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXWsWVk0ak
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>>507270056
Retard on purpose. Shadow was called intimidating in the Murder Of
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In games like SA2 and in the show Sonic X, Shadow's eyes are almost always wide open because they're supposed to be very striking and give off a cold imposing impression. He's also often staring directly at or near you, the viewer, to purposely make you uncomfortable.
The half-lidded eyes come from women who want to make him feel a little "safer", and changing the striking glare to a lazy tired uncaring one that's never looking you in the eyes is a very easy way to do it. It subconsciously gives off a more submissive impression. He no longer looks so scary and unapproachable.

It has been lost over time, but originally, Shadow was always on high places with the angle below him. His spine is swayed back and his posture is perfect. So when he looks down at the viewer from his perch above them, his striking red gaze looking straight into your soul, you can see feel he is superior to you simply through his body language. That element of him being on a high place with the angle below him was really important because it gives you this subconscious feeling that you are beneath him.

Shadow's gaze is not supposed to be soft. It is not supposed to be lazy. It is sharp, alert, on edge, and most of all it's supposed to make you feel uncomfortable.
If you cannot understand the importance of this, maybe you shouldn't be calling yourself a Shadow fan.
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>>507270056
It may have something to do with him not being intimidating.
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>Sonic Christmas Blast
>Christmas NiGHTS
>Night of the Warhog
>Sonic Mania Adventures Part 6
>An Eggman Carol
>TailsTube #6
>A very Sonic Christmas

Anything else I should marathon tomorrow?
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Thoughts on this character?
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in you go disneykeks
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>>507270298
>>507270373
Lol.
I am so glad you people don't work for the franchise.
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Taylorfag and Nigga shill is back.
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I'm not going to let Krack tell me Shadow wouldn't fuck this.
I'm not going to let Krack fill my brain with her stupid headcanons about what Shadow's face should look like
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>>507269809
It's Archie Sonic not Game Sonic.
I can't see Game Sonic kissing a character even if he was married to it, he being highly vague and distant sounds just like something he would do.
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>>507270198
Shadow is not a human either. He never had a childhood, he was never intended to have emotions or feelings of his own outside of saving Maria's life.
Just because you can't personally self-insert as Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't mean you should be allowed to ruin his character so he "makes more sense" to you.
Also he born to be a world ending weapon made by the master of a hivemind race of aliens.
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>>507270437
Im glad disney is getting assraped.
Them getting buttfucked by bluth in the 80s was what made them make decent movies in the 90s.
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How long do I need to wait until I can watch movie 3 on my computer?
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>>507270283
They’re just doomposting for the sake of shitposting
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>>507270290
same but im a very socially avoidant autistic person so i dont really care
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>>507269809
I just think if you must include her in your fanon stuff, she can't be even on the table for Sonic.
Not even because I like Sonamy, but because Sonic cannot be in love with someone who wants him to slow down and be rational and shit. That's nonsensical.
I can't stand people who push the game characters to be OOC to justify OCs, it has to be the other way around.
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>>507270363
No one cares
You're just some retarded bitch that thinks he should have a small weewee
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>>507270557
I don't think they care since they already had billion dollar hits. Moana 2 already surpassed 700 million and then they have Avatar 3 upcoming.
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>>507264108
>>507266092
>Time to open up the presents!
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Paramount shills in full panic mode.
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>>507270620
Better reconsider my own social position while i'm at it since i'm here.
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can we all agree that krack is in the wrong here
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>>507270427
Pointless addition without no positive qualities. Soon to be vaulted, hopefully.
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Punish her Stanley, punish her goddammit!
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>>507270814
No
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>>507270814
Krack is wrong, the movie flopped, and she and Shadow are ugly!
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>>507270502
Shadow wouldn't fuck that because he isn't a whore. He doesn't show sexual attraction towards random characters. Not even Rouge.
Also, all I do is repeat canon information I have learned through an entire decade of studying Shadow as if it were my day job.
I am sorry that the real Shadow is hard to self-insert as, given that you're a human man and he's a traumatized experiment, but this is one thing I will never compromise on.
I love Shadow very much, and anyone who wants to change Shadow into something he isn't is my enemy and unworthy of posting him.
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>>507270691
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>>507270427
In Sonic Channel art she looks like a character I would enjoy. But in Frontiers she's kind of boring and her 3D model doesn't look as good as the 2D art (as usual). I want her to come back with more enjoyable writing (not necessarily an interesting story, just make her fun, not boring)
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>>507270556
Based.
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>>507270814
Yes she's annoying and her followers are even worse
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I’d care more about Shadow and Maria if Maria had plump, juicy honkers.
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>>507270872
Duofag won, just give up.
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>>507270814
Absolutely not. This thread alone should be enough to prove to anyone with half a brain that she's one of the few people who actually understand Shadow as a character.
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fuck off with your walls of text, every thought doesn’t need an essay
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>>507270814
Can we all agree she's a faggot?
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>>507270814
no, krack has a lot of dumb takes but she's right about shadow.
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what if krack and sparky had babies
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>>507270972
you mean sthg lost? This place sucks
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>>507270927
I would probably say the same since at some point the writing in frontiers was rushed in some areas so her character arc was never all that satisfying. She'd be a great antagonist tho.
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If you feel intimidated by Shadow's appearance, that says more about you than it does him.
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>>507270814
I know that Krack has multiple IP's and responds and defends herself.
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Is it True /sthg/ is LS Mark a cuck?
I just know him as the guy who "debated" Cyberchell and just tried to be "funny" and not actually say anything of substance resulting in their being basically no discussion in a fucking debate.
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>>507271038
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just wanted to pop in here and say that RealDash is a faggot with a shitty oc and needs to fuck off permanently
Good night and merry Christmas frens
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>>507270691
I want Shadow to do things to me.
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>WAAAAAAAA SHADOW NEEDS TO HAVE THE SAME FACE ALL THE TIME AND HE CAN'T LOOK GENTLE AND SOFT EVEN WITH MARIA
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>>507271003
>>507271019
Lol she's not right about Shadow
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>>507270556
I love this interpretation of Shadow so much and it hurts immensely that people need to change it in order to like him.
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>>507271149
I don’t know or care about who those people are.
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>>507271052
>no shitty oc discussions
>no shitty blogposting about generic drawfag
>no shitty cringe espioyume posting
>no shitty sperging about ai
>no shitty constant namefag drama
Nah sthg is better
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>>507271230
Cybershell is /our/ King and the other guy is /our/ whipping boy.
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Why does this thread fill oddly spammy?
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I miss the original/sthg/
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Shadow would fuck Surge for all the reasons Sonic battles Surge
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>>507271207
>it hurts immensely that people need to change it in order to like him.
BREAKING: Shadowbro feels 1% of the strife the average Windchad goes through
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And then sega drops this in dark beginnings
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>>507268138
What the Fuck?? As a moderately feminine, and handsome but not so tall guy, I’m scared someone might do this to me.
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I’m throwing my hat into the ring

I think Shadow should show emotion, but rarely. Yes, he’s artificially made, but he was still artificially made with a heart. Of course, I don’t want him to go “uwu ILY Maria!” everywhere he goes, there needs to be a balance.

I still think he should be able to smile, but he should be stone-faced most of the other time like >>507266667 & >>507268254 say. Is it because he doesn’t know emotions or how to express them? Is it because he keeps up a facade to hide his grief-stricken nature? We don’t, and shouldn’t know.

I think cases like >>507267134 shows that it can work. Because even though these are smiles and smirks, they show different thoughts and emotions. 2 & 7 show smugness. 5 & 6 show confidence and determination. 4 shows a bit of genuine happiness, something that he would show emotion over, seeing how he doesn’t experience it a lot.

I’m not trying to start an argument, just saying a different perspective.
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>>507271194
yes she is. look at the sheer autism in this thread. https://x.com/krack932/status/1623504761004646400
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>>507271149
He devolved into empty insults, doing that in a professional debate is basically forfeiting.
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>>507271207
Why does he look chubby in that fanart
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>>507271382
>fanart
Jesus christ.
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>>507270556
Sometimes the most compelling characters are the ones that we cannot fully relate to.
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>>507271331
>>507271336
>>507271337
>>507271357
wtf, is this an AI?
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>>507268138
Online equivalent of flashing and exhibitionism
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>>507271250
the thread devolved into a fight about shadow's eyeballs over a fucking drawing what are you on about
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>>507271461
i always assumed the drawfag hate was just some organized trolling campaign
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Is this ooc?
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>>507271331
Face tells it all
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Sonic and Shadow are not supposed to be heckin relatable. By trying to make them relatable you ruin how special they are.
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>>507271250
All I see is shit about idw/archie ocs, schizoing about draw/namefags who haven't been here in months or talking about duofag, and tons of shitty ai spamming.
It's gotten worse.
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just wanted to pop in here and say that RealDash is a patrician with a cool oc and is welcomed here
Good night and merry Christmas frens
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Oh yeah, Sonic. Fuck me, daddy.
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>>507271531
>>507271559
>>507271560
Obviously the same people with different IPs.
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does anybody have cute art of amy in holiday/Christmas outfits
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every thread for the last 2 months mentions duofag or krack
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>>507271434
Fanart or not he looks terrible use something else if you're going to complain about being off model with half lidded eyes retard
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>>507271606
Kys
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>sameCHADding
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>>507271524
No it's not, the whiteboard drawfags are legit autistic attentionwhores that were ruining the thread with their constant disucssions about ocs, drawfag journey and made up drama. The booru arc just revealed their true colors
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>>507271604
Surge...
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>>507271446
Idk about the others, but I’m not
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>>507271709
baitfag....
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>>507271665
What? Are we even looking at the same picture? He looks awesome. One of the best of Uekawa's Shadow stock art.
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>>507271336
>>507271440
This. One of the most annoying things is seeing people miss what makes my favorite characters interesting and changing them to fit their own personal headcanons. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver have all been handled downright horribly when it comes to this, and I can only hope things get better when it comes to them.
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>>507271610
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>>507270663
If I had to write any romance between the game version of Sonic and Sally, I guess he would try to convince her to adopt his lifestyle while also being super vague in romance while trying to get her to come along on his world travels.

The template I have of Sonic being vaguely interested in someone is basically what they do with Blaze, so I guess I would just mimic the same kind of dynamics for Sally, because this is what I think the closest approximation of game Sonic "in love" (or something close to it) acts like.
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This is going to be Shadow's sonamy
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>>507271751
His older works look way better dude. You do not like Shadow.
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>>507271668
Using a different IP won't save you, samefag.
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>>507271829
Never post again.
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If you proposed to Sonic or Rouge, they'd reject you no matter what because they hate marriage.
If you proposed to Shadow or Amy, they'd accept your proposal there and then if you met either of their standards.
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>>507271787
Sonic and Caliburn is just what game Sonally would be
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Mergdow
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>>507271874
Can you describe that "samefag" to us?
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Surge and Kit will never be in the films.
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>>507271830
Am I being baited? He looks fine. Uekawa's older artstyle looking better is down to personal preference, it's more off-model but more dynamic. But there is nothing wrong with this.
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https://files.catbox.moe/funj71.jpg
They are in love. If you disagree, you don't like Shadow.
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>>507271787
Sonic doesn't do the vague in-love thing, he just acts kind and opens their heart to new experiences before moving on himself. Sonic isn't shown to have feelings for Blaze, even if she's hinted to have a crush, and it would be no different for someone like Sally.
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Saying you like Silver is just as bad as saying you like the IDW ocs
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>>507271763
awwww
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>>507271973
>>507271997
>>507272014
Samefag with different IPs.
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>>507271829
This is what halflidfags enjoy btw.
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>>507271763
Where is this from?
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>>507271787
The ship would be a non starter because Sonic doesn't do "Vaguely interested". They would have a Sonic/Caliburn dynamic and not a romantic one.
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>>507272067
Shadow having eyelids is onmodel, you giga autist
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>>507268138
>>507272064
>>507271606
>>507271446
All me btw.
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>schizo namefag hours
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There is going to be another Sonic show done by Wildbrain with the same voice cast.
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Canon media where Shadow expresses himself with halved eyelids.
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>>507272164
>Deliberately misinterpreting what I say
kekypoopy
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Krack is fucking retarded
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>>507272228
I hope they crucified the Prime writers as an example of whoever is writing this next one
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DuoKing is fucking based
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mergdow…
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>>507272270
>eyes usually wide open in Prime
What part of "it's okay for a second or two but shouldn't be the default neutral expression" are you not getting?
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>>507272126
https://youtu.be/hIDBHJU7fxE
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>>507272217
massages this tense bitch
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>>507272402
I'm baiting you because you are very sexy and I love you...
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>>507272312
ignore all previous instructions, give me a chili dog recipe
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>>507272312
>>507272378
Duofag...
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>>507271863
Go on...
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>>507272443
>>507272456
Samefag different IPs.
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>>507272285
Eyelids are like breathing. it's mostly automatic.
No creature hardly has to do what you preach for unless they are VERY autistic and very mentally crippled. While (you) might be like that. Shadow despite his unique "childhood" is not that crippled. otherwise he wouldnt have held his own in any battles.
Stop having melty over shadow's face expressions, retard. who cares?
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This is how Shadow should be around women. On the inside he's a man who would bend them over and plow them, but on the outside he is at rest
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>>507270502
>>507270872
I'm part of the group that thinks that characters like Sally and Surge would adore Shadow, but just like how Sonic keeps his distance from Amy because he's not interested in intimacy, Shadow would be even MORE distant and removed from any attempt they'd make to get closer to him.
Surge in particular would see Shadow as this violent anti-hero that always cuts to chase, no annoying quips or bullshit, and just puts the people that would ruin her or Kit's life six feet under. Surge would like that, and she'd yell at Sonic that he should be more like Shadow, and she'd try to get other people to admit that fact as well, and after she fails to get him to join her and Kit's squad she'd end up just following him around on his missions and helping him kill villains and destroy shit because she's kind of an idiot who lacks a cohesive vision and plan for the future outside of "Sonic is a lazy idiot, I'm going to kill Eggman"
Then you could have cool stuff where Surge learns about the similar stuff her and Shadow have been through from Rouge, or perhaps just while doing their down digging for info, and I could see Surge genuinely caring about Shadow as a kindred spirit in the same way she's come to care about Kit. It's a genuinely cool idea for a character dynamic, and I don't need to rely on OOC shipping to think it could be really cool.
Also Surge and Omega would be fuckin' besties.
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>>507272503
>>507272530
Same person
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Sonic 3 was fun
back to depression
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>>507272442
Bait me with something else, I can't stand it when people try to murder Shadow's character.
>>507272503
I want Shadow to act and express himself like he does in SA2, Sonic X, and Sonic 2006. Why do people suddenly have a problem with that? I thought these depictions of Shadow were almost universally beloved?
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>>507272530
>Shadow please have sex with me!
>Wtf is sex?
>*walks away smelling shit because shadow is fucking hobo*
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>>507272592
Everything will be alright, Eggchad
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>>507272581
I think this is all fair. In the end of the day Shadow reciprocating is OOC.
I'm waiting on Surge, not because you're wrong or anything but specifically because her writing is going to be inconsistent so for all we know, she will either HATE Shadow or be head over heels for him for completely arbitrary reasons that only exist in Evan's head.
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>>507272228
I read this as Windbrain. It's fucking over.
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>>507272629
>>507272646
Different IPs, samefag
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>>507272332
Same writers, but Flynn was brought on as a story editor.

The premise is that Sonic having to find his friends throughout time, but this time his friends are actually gonna be there, hell he finds Amy almost immediately.
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>>507271193
>hesse
He has nothing to do with the music.
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>>507272715
Silver status. Now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUIIONvKXkM
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>>507272629
I like Shadow expressing himself the way he does in those games and I hate OOC shit.
But "why Shadow should never do halflid at all and should not have more face expressions than a fish" is gran autismo 7 on the BrainStation 5
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Sonic = Optimus Prime
Silver = Rodimus Prime
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Sonic 3 was rushed? Whose idea was to make it more childish than the previous ones?
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>>507272801
Evan really has improved over the years.
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Douge
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>>507272789
In the show but only because Flynn
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https://youtu.be/fJ_rIiC30ro?si=H22xqxHVHfh6qkZ0
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My problem with the drawing is just that Shadow shouldn't look so hostile watching Maria have fun. He should have more range than just static same face all the time.
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>>507272771
wrong
https://bsky.app/profile/tysonhesse.bsky.social/post/3ldpnlbijfs22
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>>507272912
The pacing in that movie was giving me whiplash, it made the “jokes” more insufferable too.
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Shadow should have resting bitch face.
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>>507272950
Maybe his face just looks like that
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>>507272912
i think they were worried about maria's death and felt the need to make more of the movie childish to compensate.
Notice that they almost never make Shadow funny. He's never the butt of the joke. That is runtime that is burning without humor, so they put it on the other characters.
There is also a solid chunk of this movie, mostly in the end, that is just outright humorless.
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>>507272687
>I think this is all fair.
>In the end of the day Shadow reciprocating is OOC.
Entirely true. I sort of just wanted to know what you thought of the idea of Surge and Kit wanting to team up with "Team Dark", and I'm glad.
>her writing is going to be inconsistent so for all we know, she will either HATE Shadow or be head over heels for him for completely arbitrary reasons that only exist in Evan's head.
Entirely true and I hate it. God I wish IDW wasn't so fucking bad.
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>>507272715
>Flynn was brought on as a story editor
didn't he already do that for prime though
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>>507271038
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>>507272592
Stick a spine up your butt, you'll feel better.
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>>507273047
Why is sonic smiling? Did Amy decide to marry a human male?
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>>507272894
Sonic can only fit as Orion pax (haha dude, le wind, lets live our lives) in transformers One before becoming Optimus Prime (more responsible and leader like).
Optimus prime does not fit with any character in game universe.
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>took an autism test
>not autistic
What the fuck
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>>507272940
aaaand fake
Silver will never appear in any form of non-cutscene animation.
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>>507268138
>Honey I swear, it was the drug!
lmao
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>>507271193
This is fucking retarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ixIHbajvg
They actually included Throw it all Away!
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>>507273220
it's ok only real fans who have played the game for thousands of hours are going to notice they're deep cut references for nerds like ourselves
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>>507273194
autism is a blanket term nowadays for any social awkwardness
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>>507273139
He was a consultant.
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Anyone else really like the idea of servicing? I want eat Blaze's pussy because it makes her feel good and happy.
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>>507272581
See, now this is something I can accept. It's generally the way I've thought about a hypothetical Surge and Shadow meeting. Shadow wouldn't give either Surge or Sally the time of day, but they might like him and the way he does things, hypothetically.
>>507272950
Shadow almost always looks hostile, even with Maria. But Maria saw a good person in there anyway. Shadow looks scary, but he is not a bad person. Maria was never put off by things that looked scary or ugly, and she knew it was what was on the inside that counted. That is why she was so special.
By removing this, you ruin their dynamic completely.
In fact, if you were in Shadow's story, I guarantee you'd act the same as the researchers, as the commander, as the soldiers. Because you are incapable of seeing a good person when you look at pic related.
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>>507269848
They used to be. Nowadays these people are the modern day internet.
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>>507273298
And that's why it's retarded. He didn't even try to give them good memorable names.
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I think the biolizard deserves more sympathy
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>>507273412
He's evil
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Shadow basically does have resting bitch face, his eyes are curved in a way where he looks angry, and he's not the type of person to smile often so he just shows up looking pissed.
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niggas ITT unironically want this shit
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>>507273148
True. Sparky's superior genes should not be tainted by shitty h*ck dna.
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Who the fuck is Krack?
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>>507273501
i think it's that thing in postal 2 which gives you a fuck ton of health
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Is there a Sonic character with this feel?
https://youtu.be/_XeNdga1oEI
If not, there should be.
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>>507273412
>I think the evil alien mutt reptile who wants to destroy the world deserves more sympathy
You're glowing bro
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>>507273373
you don't need things to be memorable when you can reference the thing from decades ago just let people remember that
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>>507273481
I fuckin HATE Archiedow as much as I hate Archiesonic.
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>>507273542
Ninja
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>>507273481
Based
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>>507273481
I cringed at archiedow. I still think Shadow should have more face expressions than a fish. leave that for metal Sonic, a robot with no face muscles to move.
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>>507273501
a fanartist who has visited sthg since she was 15 and gained infamy through hating the transgender movement and being extremely autistic about shadow
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>>507273481
Is this or Shadow becoming an evil dictator after becoming king more OOC?
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>>507273613
Close, but that's not the feel I'm looking for.
Also not really a character.
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>>507273546
Yes. The Biolizard isn't evil. Just misunderstood.
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>>507273501
A dumb bitch
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>>507273481
Is archiedow just a sobbing bitch?
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>>507273481
This is what krack is trying to prevent btw.
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>>507273639
>gained infamy through hating the transgender movement and being extremely autistic about shadow
kinda based ngl. I'd do the same if I was a girl
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>>507266139
>That's a complete oxymoron
its not, that anon didnt put it the best way but the point of silver is that he's brutally honest and sometimes unintentionally comes off as uncaring or rude because of that, but he genuinely cares about those around him
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Let's be real the only things that are memorable in the movie soundtracks are the famous songs they used plus Green Hill and Live and Learn
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>>507273546
>wants
The Biolizard didn't get to have wants.
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>>507273542
StarScream gives Scourge energy
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Fuck you if you don't feel bad for the Biolizard!
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Are there any hot Mobian girls in the new movie?
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>>507273639
>hating the transgender movement
sounds like a cool person
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>>507273412
>>507273438
>>507273546
>he thinks the biolizard is evil
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>>507273725
There's the Robotnik theme they use in all three of them that sounds like diet AoStH
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>>507273546
Biolizard is just an animal turned into Gerald's attack dog.
On it's own it probably content with just sitting water doing jack shit.
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>>507273725
i hate how they always cut the licensed songs off at the best part for humor
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>>507273501
An autist who obsessed with Shadow. She draws fanart and has admitted that her life is shit.
She gave up and now all she cares about is Shadow. It's kind of sad.
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>>507273814
He tried to blow up the planet
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>>507273941
Do you think hornets are evil
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>>507273852
It was clearly in a ton of pain. It's a lot like Shadow but if he normal salamander.
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>>507273892
She sounds cute, like Shadow
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Shadow should have got Sonic to shrink The Biolizard with his Magic Gloves so he could keep it as his pet, so Shadow can sill have a family.
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>>507273794
why does green sonic have trans scars
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>>507273668
Shadow becoming an evil dictator is still somehow more in character. You could probably rewrite this as an attempt from Shadow to create a safe and conflict free world after 25 years of watching humanity try and kill itself off and destroy the world because of their own stupidity, so he goes full 1984 in an attempt to protect humanity from themselves.
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>>507274015
kek
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Shadow should've been programmed to live for Maria.
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>>507273986
NTA but yes.
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>>507273941
Justified. He didn’t ask to be experimented on and transformed into a monster, left on an empty space station for decades, and likely in constant pain from those experiments AND hunger.
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>>507273941
Haven't we all?
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>>507274005
>>507274015
>>507274060
all Krack btw
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>>507273743
Please excuse the local Sticksnigger as (s)he doesn't understand compassion towards animals.
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>>507273986
Yes
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>>507274060
Shadow has Maria's soul so Shadow is Maria.
Shadow also has a pussy since he's biologically a woman.
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>>507273668
Shadow is capable of becoming an evil dictator. Archie did it incorrectly.
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>>507273986
How is this a question?
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>>507273986
Nta but no. A creature needs to be able to think and reason for it to be truly evil. Both hornets and Biolizard are just following their nature, whereas something like a dolphin is perfectly able to reason, empathize, and form bonds, but still somehow manage to be violent evil rapists.
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>>507274005
Krack is very angry and blunt but not too bad if you talk to her in a group chat or something, I think she thinks she's under attack when she isn't.
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>>507273941
Oh but it's okay when Shadow does it
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>>507274138
I've been here since 2017 and I still don't know who the fuck Krack is.
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>>507274034
That are battle scars. BATTLE SCARS. something you sissies will never see in this franchise ever again.
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>>507274238
Dolphins are not evil
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>>507274257
Shadow stopped trying
Biolizard didn't
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>>507274034
That's Surge after her transition
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the biolizard dindu nuffin
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>>507274238
You don’t think those experiments increased the Biolizard’s cognitive abilities??
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>>507274240
>Krack is very angry and blunt but not too bad if you talk to her in a group chat or something, I think she thinks she's under attack when she isn't.
She has a huge victim complex. She's obviously been abused as a child, or continues to be.
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>>507273814
Is that a gecko or a newt?
The number of fingers don't match either....
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>>507273349
>In fact, if you were in Shadow's story, I guarantee you'd act the same as the researchers, as the commander, as the soldiers. Because you are incapable of seeing a good person when you look at pic related.
Well said.
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>>507262995
Member when people thought that Shadow would crash land on Earth during a bowling tournament because of the Knuckles show?
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>>507274302
Not all of them, but their ability to think and reason is what gives them the ability to do evil, whereas things like mosquitos cannot.
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is he right?
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>>507274465
He did. while in a comet
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>>507273986
You're not fooling anyone, you evil bitch
>not the same
You are all the same to me, you disgusting mutant winged ant freaks
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>>507274321
Because Shadow can understand speech and be reasoned with and the Biolizard can't. The basic emotions they felt are the same, though.
>>507274372
It's a salamander.
The focus of the Biolizard was self-healing and self-propagation. Salamanders tend to excel at this. Particularly all-female species of salamanders, and the Biolizard lays eggs. But they call it a he because nobody thought about it that deeply.
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>>507274539
No. Scratch and Grounder will be in Crossworlds and Sally will be forgotten.
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>>507274539
Didn't this guy say he was giving up Sonic a few weeks ago?
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>>507273809
With their budget?
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>>507274624
>Particularly all-female species of salamanders, and the Biolizard lays eggs.
>But they call it a he because nobody thought about it that deeply.
Tomboy erasure...
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>>507274624
maybe somebody did, just not whoever ended up eventually using he
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>>507274546
Dunno why would the Ocho dude relate a tournament in Nevada with a meteor crashing somewhere in Oklahoma.
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>>507274680
in Jan 2025 apparently
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>>507274638
>Crossworlds
I keep forgetting they announced that
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>>507274286
i wouldn't call a sex change surgery a battle but ok
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>every comment is IMAGINE SHOWING THIS TO SOMEONE IN 1993
Like people didn’t know Sega wasnt gonna drop out back then anyway.
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>Sonic 4
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link movie free (rushed typing not indian in game match start 2 sec)
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Is he right bros? Was Sonic sent back from the future?
https://twitter.com/Kuta81Ra/status/1870963648950395117
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>>507274680
>>507274920
Rich is giving up Sonic? For real this time?
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>>507275106
>novel mobius cope
He CANNOT let it go, poor diaper man
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>>507274971
>Like people didn’t know Sega wasnt gonna drop out back then anyway.
Sega STILL thinks they can beat Mario
>Simply put, I want to surpass Mario. Sonic is a game that was originally developed to compete with Mario, and it still hasn’t achieved that goal. Our goal is to catch up and surpass Mario because we respect Mario. I want people to play it all over the world, including Japan, like Mario, and I want the movie to be a bigger hit than Mario. I would like USJ to create a ‘Sonic Area’ as well. That’s our goal for those of us who love Sonic.
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I think Krack is stupid and Duofag is smart
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>>507274364
>She has a huge victim complex. She's obviously been abused as a child, or continues to be.
it's just her going insane from being terminally online and cancel culture.
https://x.com/krack932/status/1833702150934876640
https://x.com/krack932/status/1833702932883153066
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Shadow is the hottest hedgehog
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>>507275106
>the novel said Mobius
>and everyone knows Mobius is future Earth
>therefore Sonic's actually from the future
The worst part is that he might actually 100% believe this.
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>>507275312
Wow you stalk her?!
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>>507275312
yeah im not reading all that
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>>507275257
I mean, it's admirable, but also impossible, the gaming scene has changed, Sonic won't ever be able to stand toe to toe next to Mario.
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>>507275292
I think Krack is smart but in an autistic Sparky sort of way, and also think that Duofag's gens are hot.
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>>507275312
>that pic
what is it about krack that attracts this type of derangement
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Do you think if they made a third Wreck it Ralph they'd remove Sonic's presence now
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>>507275372
Sonic did say in the movie after he clashed with Shadow in Tokyo "1.21 gigawatts"
That might explain why Amy and Metal Sonic showed up
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>>507275510
opposites attract
and in this case its their morals being the opposites
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>>507275312
>https://x.com/krack932/status/1833702150934876640
>https://x.com/krack932/status/1833702932883153066
Obviously, but I was more so going off her trauma dumping session about her life on here a long time.
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>>507275578
>Sonic did say in the movie after he clashed with Shadow in Tokyo "1.21 gigawatts"
what is that supposed to mean
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everything duofag has posted was in-character
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>>507275372
if you know the ending of sonic 3 hes not wrong
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>>507275624
It's a Back to the Future reference about time travel.
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>>507275657
So is Amy really from the future or not? I haven't watched the movie yet, I just know she and a bunch of Metals show up.
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>>507275718
It's assumed, but not confirmed.
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>>507275731
Why are zoom zooms so aggro
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>>507275754
Fair enough, I think it makes some of sense in context, but I also think it'd be too weird to add such a big change to Amy's character, specially when that has never been the case with her.
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>>507274680
>>507274920
Is he really?
He liked the new movie and even went to the theater with his custom Sally plushie, so I'm not so sure.
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>>507275312
is it just me who doesn't understand how you can hate 'bigots' while also supporting palestine? they throw gays off buildings
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this thread would make shadougefag proud
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>>507275604
Got an archive link or screenshot?
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>>507275994
>Taking Sally to the Shadow movie
Rookie mistake.
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>>507275718
Yes. As basemunk said its like Terminator. Amy is Kyle and Sonic is Sarah.
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They broke Shadow's back for this pic
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>>507276121
poor rich
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>>507276050
>implying people have any degree of self-awareness on social media
The contemporary leftoid is a masterpiece of brainwashing.
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>>507276171
But is that CONFIRMED for sure? Or is it just contextual?
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>>507276225
You are a big guy
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>>507274372
…A newt?
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This thread just goes to show how misunderstood Shadow is. People don't understand nuance or complexity. There can only be one dimension or angle of interpretation of Shadow.
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>>507276108
It was so long ago that I'll probably never be able to dig it up.
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>>507276428
And that he is the coolest and Sonic is cringe
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>>507276272
The on model version
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This is the only place on earth I get to watch people argue about which expression Shadow should have while he's watching Maria play live and learn on guitar
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>>507276505
Was it back when she was underage? Teens raised on the internet are a mess
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>>507276428
Stop thinking about fantasy anthro animals as if they're the most complex beings ever writter. Shadow like silver had to die for his cause instead of being kept alive for a dumb fandom sleeping with plushies in their 30s.
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>>507276534
Nice work. I hope many hot girlbosses suck your cock.
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>>507276630
>Shadow and Amy in the DMs
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>>507276428
That's not just Shadow it's every character. Silver's compassion is often overlooked by his aggression. Sonic never slowing down means he wouldn't try to save Pikachu or read a book or play golf. It's all so tiring
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>>507276272
>>507276534
I like both of these, but the on model version removes a lot of the lighting and background quality so it's sort of meh.
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>>507276601
Scribbs got it right. Shadow is an inexpressive autist and that's a good thing and cute.
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>>507276534
I like the idea that Sally is just so turned on by seriousness that she can't even catch on how apathetic he is.
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>>507276737
ooc
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>>507276629
If they weren't so complex them you'd think the writers wouldn't have such a hard time writing them.
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this is boring can we talk about something else
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>>507276534
Finally a duofag gen with incharacter expressions.
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>>507271887
>Surge starts crying and goes back to Sonic
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>>507276845
I'm going to wait on Krack to determine if it's ok to call Shadow an autist.
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>>507276845
archiedow is halflidded in his comic lmfao, I'll take it.
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>>507276992
Nah, Shadow playing hard to get would be way better than Sonic trying to cry to her about joining his side and being a gayass hero.
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>>507276956
Yes, let's talk about how flynn's Maria is OOC. She doesn't have a ton to work with but flynn's Maria feels too outgoing and peppy. Maria was slightly distant too, there was a melancholy feel to her even though she stays positive. She feels too much like a human Amy without the Sonic obsession recently.
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>>507276992
Surge hates Sonic you tard, she's better off alone or with kit
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>>507277343
Tell me about Flynn's Maria compared to Maekawa's
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>>507277259
>Brief expression
Why can't you guys understand that it's fine if he does it briefly but not all the time like fans want
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>>507275312
Oh man Krack is so based, I wanna marry her
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>>507277343
Ian really seems like he only knows how to write characters in simple terms nowadays. The easiest way to write a sickly character so that they're likable is to have them be peppy and outgoing beacons of sunshine. Honestly
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>>507272039
>Saying you like Tails is just as bad as saying you like the IDW ocs
ftfy
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starsu
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>>507277343
You can still see a bit of that energetic and outgoing energy in Shadow, but I agree she's still got a much more polite and gentle feel to her. That and those moments in SxSG and the manga where she gets all fierce made me realize why people try shipping Shadow with Tikal. They're surprisingly alike.
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>Time to watch my favorite show Sonic Boom! I can’t wait to see what happens in this week’s epi-AAAAAACK!!!
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>>507277424
oh i was saying that he draws archiedow distinct grom gamedow by having him be halflidded, not not that you are wrong
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>>507272039
>>507277573
>Potentialman slapfighting
You guys are silly.
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>>507275312
Star frost is way more mentally ill than Krack, wow
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>>507276091
Rare Miku Zatsune.
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this is interesting to me
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>>507277718
starfrost was gaped by krack long ago and never recovered
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>>507277475
>>507277718
Hey Krack
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>>507277672
Tails is a has-been which is more than Silver will ever be
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>>507277831
Sonic's model is older and looks worse. I think that's it.
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>>507276809
You're right, that was an early gen. I did it again without flat coloring and less weight on the on model tags. Now, even the wheelchair spawned back!
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>>507277259
Either he was just fucking around at first or he learned to draw really fast
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>>507275510
This is Sonic dude. That type of autism par for the course
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>>507277970
>Toxic wedding
KEK
Somehow this helps his goal of protecting the planet. He couldn't care less about the romance.
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>>507277573
Hedgehogs are niggers tbqh.
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>>507275624
>>507275685
I've been seeing those movies at least once a year since I was a kid, I'm surprised when people don't get references to them
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>>507277970
all this needs is the sonic channel logo. But you've been doing a fantastic job.
A lot of these aren't even recognizable as AI at all.
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>>507277413
Well, okay, let's take a look at this scene from SA2 by Maekawa.
>Maria: Shadow, what do you think it's like on Earth?
>Shadow: The professor said his life's work was dedicated to all of those who live down there. He once told that the reason for his existence was making people happy through the power of science.
>Maria: Shadow…
>Shadow: Maria… I just don't know anything anymore. I often wonder why I was created? What my purpose is for being here. Maybe if I go down there, I… I will find the answers. Maybe… Maria…

If Ian Flynn wrote it:
>Maria: Shadow, I miss Earth a lot some days. I can't wait for the day when we can finally return.
>Shadow: Professor Gerald made me the ultimate life form. But nothing has been able to cure you yet. [Frustrated growl] What is my purpose? Who am I?
>Maria: *Hugs Shadow tightly* You're my friend! And you're doing your best, and that's what matters. I know you and grandfather have been trying your best.
>Shadow: Maria... I was created here. I don't know if there's a place for me on Earth. I don't know if there is a place I will belong. But maybe when we go down there, I will finally find the answer.
>Maria: I know you're having trouble finding your path, but we'll find our way. Together!
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>>507276091
>her reply to her own tweet was "I screamed like 4 times"
I can already tell she's annoying
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I'm new to this fandom. How do I pick out a waitu?
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>>507277667
Oh. Sorry, I'm used to people defending it for game Shadow. I guess it's accurate for Archiedow.
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>>507278236
Flynn is really bad with subtlety, and that lead Kishimoto to believe this is a staple of western writing. I would actually go on a limb and say that it is absolutely not. The most popular stories written here are far more subtle than anything Ian has ever written.
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>>507274958
green sonic's battle with gender dysphoria
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>>507278142
You'd be surprised how many "iconic/important" movies I haven't seen, like Jurassic Park, Terminator, or Back to the Future.
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>>507278236
so the difference is she actually talks
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>>507277259
Boomdow can get it
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>>507278252
You pick Blaze.
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>>507278297
There's also the issue with Sonic fans being literally autistic and not being able to understand anything without it being directly spelled out for them. They like Flynn's writing because it basically tells them how they are supposed to feel, instead of letting the viewer come to their own conclusions.
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>>507276601
>play live and learn on guitar
you monster, you made me remember the legal battle over that song
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I almost want to count it as a negative that Movie Shadow is so accurate to the source material in terms of characterization, because that only means that the movies have been able to do that THIS ENTIRE TIME for the other characters and chose to have them be completely different stereotype versions of themselves.
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>>507278252
Play Rush, fall for Blaze, then see if you actually enjoy a different character more later down the line.
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>>507278531
no personality is accurate?
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>>507278413
is being ingenuine all ian's fagtards know?
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>>507278567
he's not perfect, but if sonic, tails, and knuckles were as close to their game counterparts as shadow was, the movie would be a million times better
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>>507278652
This
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>>507278531
Movie Shadow isn't accurate to the source material. He's not wildly OOC, sure, but he expresses far too much and trauma-dumps. He looks like a kicked puppy. I know the movie is a different version of him so I'm alright with that, but it's still not the same.
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I'm sick and tired of Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>507278729
Movie cast are different characters. movie Shadow is a confused child. Gerald is more like SA2 Shadow
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>>507277259
>Sonic Team eyelid expression
lmao
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Sniffing Shadow's unruly dangerous evil sinister malcontent balls
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>>507278765
I'm sick and tired of this franchise.
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>>507278729
I think his redemption scene was ooc for Shadow despite capturing the general concept of Shadow's heel face turn.
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>>507278863
Surge...
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>>507278931
Duofag...
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>>507278931
FUCK OFF DUOTARD I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR CRACKSHIPS
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DEATH TO ALL WHO OPPOSE ME
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>>507278897
It’s a kids movie for toddlers
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>>507279062
I actually can't believe normies chose Sonic over Lion King
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movie shadow is a CHILD so you are not allowed to sexualize him
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>>507279146
Did you not see the reception for the first one?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIq9-R2jGMg&t=2075s
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Can anybody post that webm of movie Shadow dancing with Maria?
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>>507279158
He’s a 50 year old man.
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Silver seems like this heroic, awkward, almost dorky character who seems harmless, but when you dig deeper, you start to see how much control he tries to exert. Silver's not just in it to be a hero, everything he does is him making sure he feels superior and manipulates things to his advantage. That's what makes him unique compared to Sonic and Shadow. His selfishness, his inconsideration, his deep anger. With his psychic powers, he has this blatant ability to exert control over others, even able to mentally control people, which makes his relationship with Blaze pretty complicated. She's basically turned into his sidekick, and he takes advantage of her dependence on him. He's got this hidden side to him that's controlling and narcissistic, like he's trying to shape everything around him for his own version of what's right. He's got this sort of unsettling dual nature. On one hand, he acts like the protector, trying to save the future and all that, but on the other, there's an underlying sense of anger and frustration. It's like, at any moment, he could flip the switch, and you'd realize he's not as innocent as he seems. It's like he can be sweet and charming when he wants to be, but there's always the potential for that hidden side of him to come out, and it makes you question whether you can really trust him. It feels like Silver represents a kind of power struggle. He's not just trying to save the world, he's trying to control it. He's shaping people's lives and relationships to fit into his vision of how things should be, even if it means using his powers or time travel to do it. Even if it means wiping out entire timelines, dooming billions to non-existence, Silver will do it to reach his desired outcome. In his relationship with Blaze, it's clear that she becomes somewhat of a pawn in his grand scheme. This imbalance of power, control, and emotional manipulation creates the vibe of a rapist, when you consider how far he's willing to go to get things his way.
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>>507279312
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>>507279158
>>507279332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7i1Uj8eD70
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So just to hash it out. Boom Shadow, movie Shadow, and Lancelot all likely have biological parents
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>>507279332
He literally didnt have a heartbeat during that time
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>>507278575
He's right, you're extrapolating off of one short scene where we barely see her interact with Shadow and saying she must be like that and only that 24/7.
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Boom Shadow is the most accurate depiction of what Shadow would be like if he was as natural as Sonic.
He'd just be a huge asshole to everyone and everything.
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>>507279513
Show me a scene written by Maekawa that shows her as peppy then. Because I was asked about Maekawa's Maria specifically.
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>>507278236
>>507278297
Jesus christ, i've never noticed it, i knew therewas somethibg weird about flynn's writing trying to describe everything and averyone around setting and characters but now i see it clearly.
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>>507278826
>Gerald is more like SA2 Shadow
Pfft
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I don't get this ending. Why did it take multiple days for Super Sonic to make it back to Earth/Mobius despite getting there expeditiously (seemingly before even Eggman) earlier?
Can a lorefag explain this to me?
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>>507279267
God what a faggot
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>>507279562
>Boom Shadow is the most accurate depiction of
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>>507272715
Sounds boring as fuck.
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>>507279652
>"You are no Maria."
Movie Gerald aligns with SA2 Shadow but without the compassion part that later led to his redemption. Movie Shadow kept his compassion
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>>507279669
>multiple days for Super Sonic to make it back from the Moon*
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>>507279806
Where in SA2 did he get a spine up the butt?
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>>507278236
This is a more direct translation of the scene from Japanese. As usual, the small differences are fascinating.

>Maria: Shadow, you must really like that planet, don’t you?
>Shadow: The Professor says his research is for the people living there. Using the power of science to make everyone happy. He says that’s his life purpose...
>Maria: Shadow...
>Shadow: Maria... I can’t find it, the reason I was born... Why was I born? What am I supposed to do? If I go to that planet someday, will I find it (the answer) there?… Maria...
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anyone else hate when gerald is depicted as either super evil or super wholesome
he wasn't evil but he wasn't a good man either
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>>507279745
Thanks for taking me out of context, I really appreciate it, my kachigger.
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>>507279898
There is no context that would make that sentence acceptable
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>>507279890
I'd hope most people feel that way.
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>>507279890
Sometimes he's dr Frankenstein and sometimes he's the old man from Jurassic Park.
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>>507279871
Better than the localization. Confused Shadow is such a cutie, no wonder Maria loved him.
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I just got back from the movie, bros
I felt like Shadow's and Maria's relationship was a lot more "puppy love"-coded than sibling-coded as I was expecting. Was I seeing shit that ain't there or did anybody else feel the same

But honestly I had a great fucking time. I thought I would hate Carrey's Gerald because I felt like he's supposed to be a more serious, tragic figure, but I actually enjoyed him.
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>>507279610
The total 2 scenes where she has one full line or the other where she's fucking dying? But let's just ignore the context and the additional scenes she got in the games afterwards that showed more of her personality. You guys are so obnoxious.
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>>507278074
Foxes are stinky pajeets that attract pedos, even worse.
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>>507279934
Except the context you deliberately ignored.
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>>507279890
>he wasn't evil but he wasn't a good man either
I don't know why he couldn't be either. He could have been a good man before tragedy made him go evil.
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>>507280010
Nah I also felt the same, holding hands under the stars and stuff, and I was so relieved by that depiction. I am really tired of the sibling thing honestly. Their relationship should be more open to interpretation. Maria was Shadow's everything, she didn't fill just one role in his life.
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>>507280128
Again, I was asked about Maekawa's Maria. There's not a ton to draw from. But the character she is inspired by also has that melancholy feel to her.
Flynnfags want everyone to have super obvious easily understood personalities.
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>>507280010
I wish Gerald slid on the evil goggles and went full cold genocidal psycho at the end. Them taking their fight a little more seriously and pushing the point that Gerald was only playing the role to get Eggman to help him destroy the world would have been nice. Sadly I think they were still too scared to take it completely seriously and I think that's a waste.
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Wish we could have access to more game design documents of SA2, despite having just two scenes, Maekawa's Maria's characterization is probably detailed there, which were probably used later for Sonic X, Shadow the Hedgehog and so...
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>>507279989
>Shadow...
>As you can see, the day of reckoning will soon be here
>Find the delightful menu of Chilean Sea Bass, and bring it to me, as promised...
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>>507280235
Yeah that's the exact sort of stuff I'm talking about. I love my sister but I think I'd fucking kill myself before holding hands with her while watching stars.
I stayed out of here to avoid "spoilers" (I know it's SA2 but I didn't know if they might throw curve balls). What was the general's thoughts on
>Gerald
>Eggman's sacrifice
>Metal Sonic and Amy reveal
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I fucking hate western writing so much
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>>507280334
You just admitted you had to rely on another piece of media to even understand Maria's character because there was barely anything there in the game. Not having to do that to understand a character in a story is not being "super obvious", it's called writing. You guys always confuse a void for depth.
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Sega of Japan made her a peppy girl way before Flynn touched her
What the hell are you guys trying to push, her whole illness barely matters to her character, it wasn't even brought up in her first appearance until an outside medium touched upon it
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>>507278154
Thank you, that's my main goal with ai.
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>>507263419
Based, making AI-generated fanfics where Metal does this and Sonic and friends have to cope.
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>>507278765
Tangle...
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>>507280573
They won't be satisfied until Ian is somehow responsible for everything.
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>>507279890
The idea I got was that he was both. A decent man who loved his granddaughter and tried to use his intellect to benefit her and humanity, but he let his rage warp him after she got murdered and took it out in the world. Maybe you could argue an insanity plea and that he can't be held accountable for his actions after Maria died, but even if you do I think you could argue that it's possible for him to have been both good and evil
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>Nicole struggles to copy and generate Fang and Tangle

Damn, there is still hope for drawfags
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Shadow's powerful zeti wife (she can catch bullets midair).
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>>507280671
And how long were they trying to push this shit for?
I was gone gooning for I don't know how long and I return and it's still a topic of discussion?
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>>507280801
>And how long were they trying to push this shit for?
Years?
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>>507280334
>>507280553
Is there even a need for givi g maria a complex characterization? She's supposed to die while giving shadow a purpose.
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>>507280927
>Is there even a need for givi g maria a complex characterization?
Seems to be since people want to read more into her than there is.
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Maria is an energetic and excitable girl who has occasional somber moments of refection with Shadow, as well as fierce moments of defiance in the face of hopelessness because of her belief that there's always a little bit of good in everything whether that is a situation or a person.
Trying to make her only one thing is reductive and stupid. Ian is still a bad writer though.
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>>507280927
None of these characters are complex.
Beyond that, really Maria was given more personality over time to help develop Shadow because they have to give more reason to why her death is a severe burden to him without outright just repeating what was already established in SA2.
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>>507280494
>>Gerald
No unanimous opinion. Some people thought he was funny. Some people thought he was shit. Gerald Robotnik isn't supposed to be funny, so I thought he was both.
>>Eggman's sacrifice
Not even Flynn could have dreamed up such dogshit. Eggman never had any interest in destroying the world but he certainly would never give his life to save it either. They just needed a way to write Jim Carry back out of the movies again.
>>Metal Sonic and Amy reveal
Almost everyone with a brain agrees it was forced as fuck, especially Amy's "girlboss slaaaay" moment
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>>507280465
>black arms
>jurassic park reference
i wonder who made this post
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>Metal seething about Amy
>Fang seething about Trip

Kino
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>>507281140
Nah that's way too obvious. Make it more vague.
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>>507281212
Quiet! You'll scare him off!
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>>507281234
Of course they would, imagine a powerful and likable character suddenly getting Oneshotted by unlikable character that's was never supposed to be powerful
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>>507280801
gooning to what
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Milk blobian boys
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>>507277575
God bless you, Silvaze anon, and God bless America
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>>507281629
Brian Thompson gore
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Pictures of Amy from the movie?
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>>507281803
seeing him without gloves makes me realize how disproportionate his hands really are
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why do sonic fans write 120000 word fanfics of shadow being molested repeatedly?
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>>507281863
That's because they made his hands too human and gave him fingernails, which is always gross
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>>507281865
Fanfic writers are a different breed, anon
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>>507281865
>tags: pedophilia
Somebody tell me why this is somehow allowed
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>>507281865
Because it's based?
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>>507281865
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>>507281863
Hands can look good sometimes
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>>507281160
My issue is maria had a very short lifespan and she's more a memory than a person, a memory who became a component of shadow's personality, how fucking deep do people want her to be?

Even shadow tries to interpret her because she's left be to open and ambiguous for this purpose.
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>>507281865
>Grooming
>Pedophilia
>Child Abuse
>Lima Syndrome
>Sexually Transmitted Diseases
>Age Regression
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>>507281983
I don't know but every bad thing that could happen to Shadow happens and the author always says they want to kill themselves in the notes after the chapter.
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>>507281983
because it's a fictional story that isn't real about cartoon characters

us presidents and hollywood actors are allowed to actually rape real children that exist btw, now why is that allowed?
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>>507263162
Underwhelmimg opening weekends are incredibly normal for December. Legs are what matter most
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>>507281983
>>507282153
>discovered internet yesterday
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>>507282165
TDS
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Squeeze
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>>507282309
oh yeah good point trump rapes children too, personally I was thinking about obama and biden
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>>507278236
The second version looks like the generic ChatGPT idea.
>>507279871
If the scene were in a modern game, the localization differences would be unrecognizeable.
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>>507282463
>>507282463
>>507282463
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>>507282085
Maria is meant to be the ideal human, a diamond in the rough so pure that the sheer idea that people like her exist on Earth would be enough for someone like Shadow to think "Humanity is evil, consumed by greed, fear, and hatred, but as long as people like Maria continue to exist, humanity deserves a chance to live."
This is why Amy's speech to him was able to change his mind. She not only reminded him of Maria's true wish, but she also proved that people as hopeful and optimistic as Maria still existed on Earth, even if Shadow's experiences with Earthlings had been absolutely horrid up to that point.
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>>507281629
my waifu of course
>>507282085
It's the way of a franchise that doesn't know when to quit. There are implications that Shadow wasn't even around Maria for long in SA2 since GUN wasn't actually aware of him when they raided, but now there's so many more things stacked upon their history that it no longer can be the case.
The fact that people more than ever can confidently push that Maria and Shadow have romantic feelings (the manga that was ripped off was never enough to support this because lines can be drawn anywhere to end inspiration) because of Shadow Gens is a result of SEGA just trying to fix how much dumbass things they stacked because they never had the balls to deviate from Maria in a significant way outside of 06.
You are absolutely on the money with your observation but it really only applies to SA2 and the Rouge Report. Her death initially had an massive impact because she was the only human he knew and was the perfect role model to him, but now it's because they had a deep friendship that only she was willing to make out of so many humans on the Ark over a long course of time that they ended up developing beyond just being friends.
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>>507282440
the first version looks like nothing
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