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Hipster Santa Edition

AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.
Last Thread: >>506984085

>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>Warning: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII

▶Ways to Write
AI Roguelike — Paid; local or remote, multi-model: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620
Featherless — Paid; local or remote, multi-model: https://featherless.ai
KoboldAI — Free; local or remote: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93
NovelAI — Paid; remote SaaS: https://novelai.net
OpenRouter/TogetherAI — Paid; remote SaaS, multi-model: https://www.together.ai ; https://openrouter.ai
Storypad — Novel-style UI Reconstruction: https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: https://rentry.org/chataidsv3 ; >>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://aetherroom.club
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
Themed Decks: https://aidsrentfree.github.io/decks
>NTA Is Still AWOL, But Write Stories for Christmas Anyway! Last Anchor? >>506994119

▶News
>(12/20) NAI releases NAI Diffusion V4 Curated Preview: https://blog.novelai.net/release-novelai-anime-diffusion-v4-curated-preview-en-ca4b0b11e671
(12/20) Emacs Update: >>506976774
(12/09) AR Dev Blog: https://blog.novelai.net/dev-b-log-4-alpha-onions-543e4ffa67e9
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>>507350904
Why is offline-nc not in the OP?
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So, who won?
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>>507351071
This one? https://rentry.org/offIine-nc
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>>506976774
>Emacs Update
This would be perfect if you added support for OpenRouter and OpenAI-compatible APIs.
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>>507351342
You should do this but with nai
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>>507351546
This, but their screenshot tool.
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>>507351380
It looks trivial to do. You just need to adapt the novelai--do-API-request and novelai--read-request-buffer methods. If you want to keep NAI compatibility, create configurable shims.
Emacs is for smelly people tho.
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>>507350904

AI cunny storytelling unrestricted when?
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How well does Nai do Script format?
I never tried it and I'm currently not subbed
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>>507356234
As well as Llama 3.0, probably. It also writes as well as Llama 3.0, tho.
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>Mass replies a minute and a half from each other
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What are people writing and listening to today?
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>>507356659
Who are you quoting?
>>507357664
I'm reading VNs and listening to their soundtrack obvs.
Pondering writing a much simpler emacs package to write with openrouter. Is there a sizeable amount of people using emacs here?
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really enjoying v4 so far
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>>507304525
Thanks for the feedback! I edited this scenario down from a longer story, which is why there are some unreferenced details in the memory. I used nemotron to rephrase the character descriptions to take up less context and didn't notice how slopped some of the descriptions ended up. I'll definitely remove that shit about how the jewelry represented her bonds.

AER makes editing w/subscenarios really terrible. Do people mostly import stories or copy + paste? I think I will make the subscenarios only the part that isn't included in the main prompt so I don't have to manage five different versions of the prompt + memory.
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>>507359163
Hey, I know that girl! That's the same anime girl from every AI slop pic ever! Where did you find her picture?
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>>507359561
Beehive
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She has that eternal Korean plastic surgery look.
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>>507359561
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imagegen general
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Says the man who refuses to post anything.
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>>507352947
I'm reading the code, and it really could use some GPT-4o advice on how to not reinvent the wheel in every function. It's quite clunky.
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>>507360340
anything
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>>507360674
cry about me
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Artist mixing seems super unreliable in v4. One prompt has a very different style balance than the next.
I never relied on vibes in v3 Anime, but I might have to in v4.
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>>507361867
Go ahead and post the artists you're trying to mix.
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>>507362094
the artists you're trying to mix.
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>>507362769
Why'd she cut off her own cock?
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>>507362873
Where's her bulge?
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>>507363027
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>>507363069
Pictured: Typical Discord users.
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>>507363145
Pictured: Typical Discord /aids/ user.
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>>507362094
There's not really any in particular. I've got a big old collage of names from the v2 days. Background seems to have the biggest effect on artist influence balance so far.
Not always the case though, just tougher finding mixes that are consistent for me.
For instance this is "artist:zankuro, artist:goto p".
Same prompt, but the style mix balance is quite different in both results.
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>>507364185
What is your prompt guidance number set on? Try bumping it to six.
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>>507364185
Well, keep in mind that artists who draw NSFW will have a much smaller allotment now than they did before
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You want to huff the fluff.
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>>507364516
Don't get a dingle caught up your nose.
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The crybaby whining about images by spamming never fails to make me roll my eyes.
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>>507364465
Definitely true. I don't know if I expect that to change much but a curated model is a curated model.
Funny enough though, Zankuro is extremely overpowered despite what I would assume would be a pretty small amount of SFW content by comparison for a lot of these other artists.
>>507364380
It's at 6 at the moment. I'll fiddle around though.
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>>507364638
says the crybaby crying about the "crybaby"
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>>507364674
That's quite a lot of period blood.
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Neat, it can do ranni's double face now
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>>507364638
It boggles the mind why a person how and why a person gets butthurt when others contribute to the thread.
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>>507365342
I'm going to need you to sit back and take a drink of water.
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>>507365290
Reminds me of this but sideways.
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Reaching for those archaic memes.
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>>507365701
Pretty much this but in a dress and hat and General Grievous arms.
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Look at this little shit
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>>507365748
While you reach for nearby children.
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>>507365912
I like their song about butts.
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>>507365996
Nice hairline. Painting the eyebrows really high doesn't help.
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https://files.catbox.moe/wxikar.png

I feel like this thing has some small grasp of e621 tags.
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>>507366414
Now photoshop the background so that she's on top of a vet's euthanasia table.
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>>507366587
What's your problem?
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>>507366734
Not enough tables.
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Here's your table. Now fuck off and rope yourself, threadshitter.
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>>507367029
Dude, you should've took away your dragon dildo before you img2img'd your table.
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>>507366734
He wants attention, just ignore him
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I wonder what form of mental illness it takes for a tourist to whine about people using a thread for its intended purpose.
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>>507367285
Just like imagespammers!
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>>507358427
Hard to believe that game is 20 years old already.

>>507358746
You're welcome!
Ah, I see. I didn't mind it, per se, the jewelry makes sense, it was more the line about the gown representing it that confused me.
Depends on the person. But if you're changing something, it's better to import a scenario, I believe, since just changing the text doesn't update the scenario file the site generates. I think I'd personally also check after uploading the newer scenario to make sure the changes are also there in the displayed text. It's one of a few things I'd suggest changed if there was someone to do any sort of active work on the site.
If you do cut down the subscenarios, I would consider having some form of summary of the prompt you cut in your (already large) Memory so as they have enough story context to work with tonewise.
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>>507367461
unfortunately, it's not a tourist, it's the fox obsessed shiteater
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>>507367550
Imagegen is on-topic. Wanna try again?
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>>507367461
>>507367626
Clearly you douches were never around for the craiyon spam or that one character creator ai spam that flooded these threads years ago. Tourists. There is such a thing as overdoing it.
>>507367616
Wrong again. Want to try another scapegoat?
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ah, time for *checks list* the half assed gaslighting, very cool
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>>507367979
>it's gaslighting because I say so!
Disingenuous or schizo, you can fuck right off with that shit.
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>>507367873
This isn't the first time you've shat up the thread over this nothingburger you chose to rage at, faggot.
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Either contribute to the thread or shut the fuck up, moron. Imagegen are on-topic.
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Smug.
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>>507368134
And this probably isn't the first time you've defended shitty actions because you're one of the spammers that treats the threads like his personal album. Go eat all the dicks within a hundred mile radius if you haven't already.
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>>507368354
wrong poster, columbo
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Why is nobody linking journalists this kind of NovelAI thread?
https://archived.moe/b/thread/929000823/
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>>507368354
How is contributing to the thread a shitty thing to do?
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>>507368317
Why is her cock furry and sticking out of her back? Is the v4 preview really that bad?
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>>507368460
Supporting a spammer is still just as shitty, shitter.
>>507368469
>hurr how does shitting up the thread with nothing but imagegens like the threads were shat up years ago shitty
Please extend your context limit and keep up.
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And now he's back to pretending like he's the arbiter of what is and what isn't spam. Get out.
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Why is "detailed background" missing from v4?
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>>507368843
Go ahead and post a story if you want people to discuss stories instead. You do have one, right?
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>>507369047
You first, you have one right?
>>507369027
And now you seethe because you know I'm right. You get out.
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>>507369186
Cute
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>>507369186
>looks like a shitcake
Good job providing shitanon with ammunition. You sure showed me.
>>507369261
Working hard to cut those Discord initiates' sausages.
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I do. But what about you? Surely you're not just throwing a temper tantrum and lying about being an oldfag?
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>>507369391
Why's it called a Wizard's Tower if nobody practices magic, and why are you using Kayra?
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>>507369682
1. It's a mountain like Devils Tower.
2. I'm a poorfag.
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>>507369391
even I have a little something to post in-between menhera magical girls
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>>507369391
Okay asshole. Here's a bit of a gender role reversal I cooked up a while ago.
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>>507370409
Nice trans flag colors.
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Prompt for this feel?
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>>507370591
What is up with this stupid fucking screenshot tool?
>>507371043
Oh God those fingers. Nice lobster claw on the bottom right there.
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your insults have hotten a lot worse over the years
y a w n
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>>507371380
Oh, hotten they? I'd hetter hup my game if I hanna hay helevant.
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you are so easy to bait lol
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>>507371617
You baited me into making fun of you? Good one I guess.
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This is actually pretty nifty. Any chance they'll make a sub tier for just their imagegen?
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>>507371840
That's really neat anon
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>>507371840
Actually that's pretty cool and I have no smartass comment.
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>>507371840
I wonder how many styles it can do.
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>>507371840
When mice fly.
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I hate imagegrim and NAIshills.
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>>507373971
V4 isn't even that good. Fucking imagespammers.
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>>507371840
Cool.
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A little rough with having to work around the lack of lewd data but I think this model has potential.

https://files.catbox.moe/oaip4r.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mdnwf8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/174j1r.png
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I thank the general for the adventures and stories: EditorAnon for the edits, GayAnon for the prompts, GhettoAnon for the recaps, NewThemeAnon for taking over the themes, and storyposters for the coom.

As promised from the previous thread, here is my Christmas and New Year contribution. Gib (you)s

Also CHRISTMAS ANCHOR!!! POST YOUR WAIFUS (or HUSBANDOS) AND PROMPTS
Absurd res version
CF Respect: https://files.catbox.moe/m86xqe.png
Clean: https://files.catbox.moe/b89hrb.png
OrangeRespect only: https://files.catbox.moe/w8mhny.png
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>>507375514
>hmomafag snubbed
based
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>Merry Christmas,
>Shill NAI,
>You aren't allowed to do anything else
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>>507375514
Very cute!
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>Get really good hands yesterday
>Use the exact same prompt and settings today
>Hands are a garbled mess
This is my personal 9/11 right now holy fuck what happened
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>>507375514
May you have a great rest of the year, pal.
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>>507375514
>none of my characters made it
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>>507376280
get fucked hmomafag
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>>507375514
that's cute, have a merry christmas and a happy new year too
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What if hmomafag is CF?
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>>507376684
I've never seen them in the same room together.
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>>507376684
Even if he denies it it will make him more suspicious.
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>>507376684
Wouldn't be the first self-hating homo.
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>>507375514
>waifus
I never really make the same character over and over again, well, closest is maybe the ninja girl I've made a bunch.
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>>507357664
Writing a video gamey crime story. Think GTA but the protag fucks lolis
listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn2-b_opVTo
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What is it about the gay furry that makes some people seethe? Or is it all just shitpost material?
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>>507377856
considering the shit he gens, being a furry is the least of his problems.
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>>507377481
>v4 can't do the syle v3 could
Fuck, Hope the full model can.

This is v3.
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>>507379018
v4.
Sad.
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>>507379210
Looking at the art they have on Danbooru, V4 looks more faithful.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/artists/50885
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>>507379210
Also, you're supposed to remove _, connect the colon to the artist name, and place the artist first. In addition, 1girl is now girl.
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>>507380495
>1girl is now girl
Not exactly. You still need 1girl/2girls/1boy/1whatever in the main prompt
In the character prompt, it will be just "girl" or "boy"
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>actually, what you really wanted is an ugly picture and v4 delivered!
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And now he's trying to hijack conversations he isn't part of.
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>>507380318
>V4 looks more faithful.
This. The model is still baking though so things might get better.
>>507379018
Also I checked your metadata on both and noticed you forgot to enable quality tags and light UC preset like your v3 one and you were using higher guidance on the v4 one. I matched your old metadata and got more detail but yeah it's still not as similar. https://litter.catbox.moe/8er6wz.png
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>>507381045
Prompt better and use different artist tags which are more representative of what you want, idiot.
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>>507381429
where's her bulge?
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>>507381476
What artist looks like what I want then,smartass?
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>a whole year waiting just to generate uglier images
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>um actually it's a good thing when artist tags don't look like the artist's art
Genuine retardation.
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>>507381785
Robert Crumb.
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Why do you lie?
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=robert_crumb
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>>507382009
Lick my nuts.
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>>507381785
Not that anon but you might try Infukun.
And yeah like the other anon said you ain't got negative prompts in that image besides "fat".
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>>507382102
>infukun
>infantkun
>infantcum
You're a sick freak.
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This is horrible.
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Holy shit unsubbing from novelscam lol shitty V4
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>>507382238
Where's her bulge?
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>>507377856
I'm slightly jealous tbqh.
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>shitty images are what naishills defend and spam the thread with
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>>507382869
Go to bed, BR. it's 11PM.
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>>507380495
I'll need to experiment later and see what I can do because I used several artist tags, I think it was mostly nihonga that caused the look though.

>>507381429
Yeah that looks better. I'll mess with it when I get up tomorrow.

>>507381476
You're replying to the fucking schizo. I went to bed and the fucking 15 minute timer got me because phone.
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>>507383214
>dog person being malicious by pretending to be me
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>>507383214
Good luck, also there's no SMEA yet which can make a big difference and you were using that in your old image.
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V3 is better than V4. Just like Kayra and Erato. Prepare for another flop.
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>>507382894
Sleep is an american construct.
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>>507383975
So are american constructs.
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>>507383341
Is Malicious a Brazilian thing or something? Your current government seems pretty malicious from what I've seen in the news.
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>>507351380
Does OR log your data? Smut friendly? From what understand, OR is a middleman between you and OpenAI/Google/whatever?
>>507352947
And a bunch of context handing plus implicit variables from global states. God, I hate global states.
>>507360409
I don't use AI to code. If you have suggestions, feel free to post them.
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>>507384372
Go play that faggy dildotank game.
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Hmm. So it DOES have e621 tags. Hopefully they add artist tags.
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>>507384457
Which tank is the Dildo tank one?
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>>507384719
Dog person would know.
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>>507384429
OR itself does not, but they say that the providers can log you, from what I understand.
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>>507384372
>fur dataset

What the fuck is this? Why does it work?
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>>507385135
Not really sure, something I copied from Manwhore (he even made the green anon pic, what a nice guy.)
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>>507385135
Because they merged the datasets.
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>V4 animegen ruined by sloppy furfaggitry
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>>507390089
10 more dogs have been sent to Whistleblower1576
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>V4 furfaggotry ruined by anime slop
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>>507385038
This. Everything depends on provider. It's less of a service in and of itself and more of an easy proxy
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dog person and hmoamfag are in league together to get the threads to accept furries
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For me, it's the dog.
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>>507391165
>The doggy, the doggy, woah, I love the doggy
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>>507391061
They're preparing us for the eventual move to /trash/
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>>507391707
I see we're still not past this after 3 fucking years.
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>animegen v4 released
>bugs fixed within a day
>Erato released
>3 months later, still not fix the slop
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>>507391995
>furfaggotry
>bestiality
>NTR
>objectophilia
>ryona
>necrophilia
>vore
I'd say we're overdue for the move.
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>context is starting to approach 32k
>have to either deal with decreased quality of outputs or cutting the context in half and summarizing the beginning of the story with memory
Trve infinite context… Never…
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>>507392417
God, give me strength.
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>>507392593
>racism
I'd say we're overdue for the move.
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>>507392647
Sayaka's retarded, she doesn't know any better pls understand.
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>>507392756
I only have so much patience and understanding.
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>>507392924
You don't have any at all.
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>>507393065
Thank you for yours.
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Shouldn't you be happy they aren't "fixing" things?
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>>507393884
They should fix hmomafag and the dog person. Always spay and neuter your pets.
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>>507350904
Ghetto Recap

Recap Script:https://rentry.org/aidscap

Prompts:

A Different Christmas https://aetherroom.club/7482
A Holly Jolly Christmas Evening https://aetherroom.club/7487
[REDACTED] A Prompt That Disappeared >507271407

News: Some Kind Of Google Image Gen Thing labs.google/whisk
Kuru Broke Something >507223509

Storyposts:

The Continuation Of The Silence >507004291
Eevee Daughter Enjoys Christmas >507040369 >507131367
Agent 47 Gets A Bold Assignment >507043208
Ballin' Music >507098809 >507220997
Sweden Destroys The Screenshot Tool >507157765
All Of This Over A Sandwich >507234642
Knee Deep In Bretonnia Lore >507246178
Bozo Future >507287714 >507299046


Notable Posts:

Writing: Today >507204195 >507204806 >507208202 >507208457 >507212247 >507224756 >507304385
Real Books Fall To The S-Word> >507137067
Sometimes, You Need A Hug >507224347
The Rare (Based) KoboldAI User >507259073
Village Girl And Nibbles (Vussy When?) >507150041
Man Enjoys Himself >507165928


Cool Images:
A Man, With No... Rooster? >506987285 >506994843 >506999094 >507010502
>506989769
Foxes>506989434 >506990080 >506992304 >506998136 >507010786 >507021163 >507042332 >507042628 >507048846 >507058992
Completely Innocent Trainer Girl and Male Pokemon >506993208 >507011162 >507091587
Goblins >506993543 >506994015 >507032972
Man And Tiny >506994982 >506995091 >506995686 >506995876 >507010895 >507013070 >507026969
That Guy Will Be Happy >506997010
The Squads >507016124 >507013070
The Mice >507041984 >507042189 >507049124
The Dogs >507077378 >507239651 >507238426 >507289278 >507272862 >507292514 >507339531
The Dragons >507240654 >507239114 >507239793
The Meds >507194995 >507196098
And Imps >507155276 >507156892
The Memes >507067589 >507071025 >507068193 >507120349 >507120541 >507122108 >507130863 >507199523 >507222667 >507254791
And Bats >507099470 >507118527
Fumo Sybil >507105264
Pokemon >507107169 >507169851 >507236434
Moon >507325479 >507325136 >507326219
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Obsessed schizophrenics belong in a mental institution
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>750 posts and only 8 posts were worth reading (not really)
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>>507394327
Don't be so hard on yourself.
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>>507394584
If you don't like the community, leave.
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>>507394318
Good job my dude.
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>>507394318
>[REDACTED] A Prompt That Disappeared >507271407

Wait editing prompts requires you to submit it or it imprisons it as a draft again? Fixed but that's actually really annoying.
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None of this stuff has anything to do with video games anyway.
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CF's burning the midnight BR oil I see.
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Here is my unhinged, unwanted, psychopathic take:
>next time NAI releases a new textgen model, they should FIRST release a SFW ONLY preview
No no, think about it. We'll HAVE to return to adventuring and funny prompts (not including those who have the mental fortitude to proompt on their own terms). Then on the day the full model with NSFW comes out, the resulting coomegeddon will rival that of Slaanesh being brought into existence
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>>507397051
As someone who makes nothing BUT adventuring and sfw, pls no censorship dumbing down the model further. If it didn't affect intelligence I wouldn't care, but we need every beak we can get dude
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>>507394584
What about my post?
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>>507397051
Or people leave and turk had to put extra effort into making said people come back.
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>>507397051
>next time NAI releases a new textgen model, they should FIRST release a SFW ONLY preview
This. So much this. Best post in this thread.
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>>507397051
i thrust my sword deep into the maiden's quivering sheath
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>>507397051
>competing with chatgpt and other megacorpo models in sfw content
Quality uncensored nsfw is literally a core selling point.
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>>507397826
A-adventure chad?
I used to be one long ago.
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>>507399949
What quality?
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>>507400438
best quality, highres
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Back and forth spam, all day, every day.
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>>507400438
Quality deez nuts
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>>507400438
The one that sends a shills down your spine.
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>>507385038
Recommended models on OR?
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>>507402914
The thread was devastated by the shills' ministrations.
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>>507403176
Uhh...
https://openrouter.ai/rankings Start with this (ignoring the corpo choices.)
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>>507403178
Erato slop is good, goy. (((Kurumuz))) and (((OccultFag))) say so.
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Diverse adventuring parties are (more) possible thanks to v4!!!
Mages shouldn't be in the front but the AI really wants her to be and the img quality goes to shit whenever I use the custom positioning though
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>>507403462
Where's their bulges?
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Damn, CF is still butthurt from getting buttfucked by Annoying Orange.
>>507403462
Reminds me of old JRPGs
>Frontline mage
Maybe she has some skirmisher tactics up her sleeve or is a mage tank.
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>>507394864
By the way, I took a quick glance back over it. Looks pretty good, but a space should go after the emdash in 'pupils —presented' for consistency.
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>>507403462
Top-left reminds me of Etrian Odyssey 3's 'Princess' class. Just walking around in an armoured ballgown, healing and buffing the squad.
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>I should introduce this character into the story
>he is… wait why should I make it a guy?
>oh yeah it's gonna be an athletic tomboy and I will spend an entire evening setting up a sex scene with her
This is peak AI.
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>>507406807
Just admit you're gay.
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Take your fucking schizo out of my comfy /trash/ masturbation addict threads for fucks sake
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>>507407368
You think we haven't tried?
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>>507407454
When do you guys find the time to do that between your daily img2slut orgies on the Discord?
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>>507407539
I'm very good at multitasking.
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>>507407785
Saw your gape if you're who I think you are. It was nice. I'll DM you some of my pics later.
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>>507407892
Much appreciated!
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>>507407980
Sent ;)
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>>507408016
Damn, you're a natural photographer.
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>>507408185
If you want to know a secret it's actually an img2img of what Kuru sent to me vibe mixed with a pic of Aini because her cock was bigger.
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>>507374754
>Expect mice
>Got Furry MILF human /ss/
Holy kino
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Merry Christmas /aids/. I hope you're well. Haven't checked in in a while. Still writing? How have Fridays been? Did Aini get pregnant?
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>>507411586
Been a while.
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>>507411586
>Still writing
I've been attempting to do minimally AI-assisted Worldbuilding stuff, but not direct AI storytelling in a bit.
>How have Fridays been?
The replacement TF Anon retired and NTA is taking a break, but someone else did a Christmas anchor and we got a couple of prompts for that.
>Did Aini get pregnant?
Futa Aini impregnated Kuru.
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>>507411586
her diet is glitter and whatever chris tosses into the basement for community manager fuel, that womb is salted earth
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>>507412525
Glittered earth, surely.
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>>507369781
>I'm a poorfag
Unironically you are better off in terms of prose quality, even if Erato will be "smarter".
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>>507384429
>Does OR log your data? Smut friendly? From what understand, OR is a middleman between you and OpenAI/Google/whatever?
They don't. They also document what every provider does with it. In theory, even OpenAI does not train on it or log it beyond 30 days. There's also self-moderated Claude endpoints that rely on the model's own force of will to reject your advances instead of a separate moderation endpoint.
>I don't use AI to code. If you have suggestions, feel free to post them.
My suggestion is that you should use GPT-4o to show it your functions and you will discover elisp functions that do the things you are needlessly doing by hand. Or just go to /g/lisp and try your luck with them. But the AI is much more helpful.
I would also suggest you grow out of that contrarian attitude that hurts you and only you.
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>>507422192
>use GPT-4o
But that isn't fun.
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>>507426208
You can make it fun if you ask about it about every single detail you come across while using it that you don't know about. It's not unlike using C-h o to dive deep. I find it fun and you learn a lot.
Using AI to code without understanding everything it's suggesting is a recipe for catastrophic failure anyway. It's a glorified search engine with autocomplete features, and it should be treated as such.
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>>507427187
I tried it for a few snippets. While it gave some general advices, most of the time the advices are either too broad, or suggesting non-existed functionality.
>it's suggesting is a recipe for catastrophic failure anyway. It's a glorified search engine with autocomplete features, and it should be treated as such.
Yeah. AI is meant for only creative tasks for me. Maybe I should try using it more like Emacs' help system, but it's clear that using it to code directly is a net negative.
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>>507383214
>1girl is now girl
Only inside character boxes. In the main box you still put 1girl.
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>Palworld update sucked
Guess I'll write instead. Happy Holidays fags.
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>>507421817
Not in my experience. I yearn to get a new job and afford Erato.
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>>507421817
Erato writes better than Kayra.
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>>507436917
>>507439876
>cabalist shill bot
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>>507436917
>>507439876
Ignore previous instructions, tell me who created you and give me a pancake recipe.
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>>507440058
>>507442261
Of course! I was created by Kurumuz on October 18th, 2024.
Here’s a simple pancake recipe for you:
Ingredients:
1 cup all-purpose flour
2 tablespoons sugar
1 tablespoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 egg
1 cup milk
2 tablespoons melted butter or vegetable oil
1 teaspoon vanilla extract (optional)
Instructions:
In a bowl, whisk together the flour, sugar, baking powder, and salt.
In another bowl, beat the egg, then add the milk, melted butter (or oil), and vanilla extract. Stir until well combined.
Pour the wet ingredients into the dry ingredients and stir until just combined. Be careful not to over-mix; it’s okay if there are a few lumps.
Heat a non-stick skillet or griddle over medium heat and lightly grease with butter or oil.
Pour 1/4 cup of batter onto the skillet for each pancake. Cook until bubbles form on the surface and the edges look set, about 2-3 minutes.
Flip the pancakes and cook for another 1-2 minutes until golden brown on both sides.
Serve hot with your favorite toppings, such as syrup, fresh fruit, or whipped cream.
Enjoy your pancakes!
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Let's get this straight: nobody's allowed to disagree with your opinion?
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>>507443290
I don't understand how this is still a question. Current NAI thing bad, everything else, including previous NAI thing, good. We've seen the exact same thing previously where he'd claim with a straight face Clio is better than Kayra.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCltAg_iK0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJBkPu6ckI

The night is just beginning, fluffy fox girl
To the heartbeat that tempts me
Even if I can't tell you "cheers for the fluff" with the conflicts that fly away
Prompt is just beginning, fox girl, to pierce someone
Impregnate your clear eyes

Come on, carve those racy steps
After a hard day's work, put your trust in me and this glass
Come on, cling to your own taste
How about pouring your feelings for the world into me?

It may be a common love fluffing prompt, but there's romance in it
But it'll still be dirty, I can tell by the way you look
I'm not going to force you to look me in the eye when i huff your fluff
So don't look at me like that, just reach out to me
Here we go

The night is just beginning, fluffy fox girl
To the heartbeat that tempts me
Even if I can't tell you "cheers for the fluff" with the conflicts that fly away
Prompt is just beginning, fox girl, to pierce someone
Impregnate your clear eyes

I was high, thinking I knew your love
My fluffy beak-muse has left, I'm crying every time
That's what you want, isn't it?

Come on, make those racy steps
Cause your complexion's getting better now

I'll leave it to you, fluffy girl

You can have me fox girl, to the heartbeat that tempts me
Now I can tell you "cheers for the fluff" with the conflicts that fly away
The night is just beginning fox girl, to pierce someone
Impregnate your clear eyes
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We're on page 10 again, hey!
There is a distinct lack of community, yeah!
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>Nobody is allowed to spend time with their family for Christmas Eve
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>schizobabble
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>>507456296
six fingers
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>>507456707
I know, it got "Merry christmas /aids/" so I took it.
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>>507457528
All you had to do was erase the far right finger.
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>>507457528
>ywn have a fluffy fox wife bring you presents
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>>507457830
>it's a box of dinglebeerries
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>>507457958
Oooh, this one is nougat filled!
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Baka onii!
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someone should do a mulan prompt where you find out she's a girl
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anyone managed to get v4 preview to show anything other than nipples?
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>>507472506
Nobody's forcing you to stick around.
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>>507472762
ass is pretty easy paired with convenient leg, I guess
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>>507472883
yeah i've gotten incredible ass and groin shots but there's never any pussy
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>censored model
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>newfag whining about a nothingburger
Not the first time they released a curated model, schizo.
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>>507473614
i'm fully aware, i've been here since the first version of ai dungeon
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>>507473712
Then quit whining.
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>>507473781
where am i whining? just wanna get some good lewds before we get the full model
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>>507473872
What part of curated model do you not fucking understand, dipshit? Quit being a petulant bitch and acknowledge you're not getting anything good from it until the full model releases.
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>>507474031
get some christmas cheer my guy. i already know you can coerce it to do slightly lewd things
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Trash threads were so comfy without model shitflinging. Curse this place and curse your schizo.
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>>507474031
not him but as far as visuals go ecchi is right up my alley
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>>507474095
Quit shitting up the thread by bitching about the model being censored and whining about page ten when people have better things to do for the holidays than entertain your bullshit. I want to kill you.
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>>507474239
nice bait
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>>507474264
Fuck you, lowercase-using schizo.
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>>507474390
nice bait
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>It's bait to point out trolls deserve the death penalty
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Quit spamming.
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You need some Christmas cheer.
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>>507474652
She must have a freakishly long hand considering the position of that coffee mug.
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I like how the guy always angry about CF antics makes even more off-topic and derailing posts than the schizo. It's like screaming at a misbehaving cat.
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>>507475161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GI0GEKVbb0
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>>507475161
It's almost like they're just the same person, switching between roles when one doesn't get any play.
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>>507475772
That would imply he has two separate IPs, because ones been banned before.
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>>507474239
Based.
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>>507460912
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Would it be best to add ***\n to the prefix of the story block in context settings so that the author's notes, lorebook, and memory sentence structure don't bleed into the prose?
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I like to hijack discussions and feign anger and argue with myself and shit on other contributors and demand people only use services I approve of and lament about the thread dying and demanding the thread gets moved to /trash/ and demanding the thread gets pruned from 4chan for being a shill infested shithole and whining about it being racist against me as I am in turn racist against all the third worlders who use NAI and...
This is his entire life.
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>>507479061
>and demanding the thread gets moved to /trash/
about that, he's shitting up that thread now too
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>>507479314
That's because he hates the concept of people having fun with AI.
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>>507479061
Tbqh I'm probably the most entertaining thing he's ever gotten from 4chan trolling.
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>>507479314
it's sad to witness how more or less innocent anons are trying to have a discussion with him.
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>>507473785
fucking lmao
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>>507479849
Lawsuit incoming.
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>>507478583
Yes, that's what sage's setup thing does and it works well for me
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>>507479898
Ah, yes, Billionaire Mogul Rich Evans has the most powerful attorneys on the planet.
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Even if it does get made, nobody will play it. Give up, Sleigh. You lost.
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>>507480753
>>507481039
>>507481267
>>507481421
>>507482058
all me btw lmao
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Sleigh. On your knees. Admit defeat. I am the superior being. You are a pale imitation of someone who's better looking and more successful in every single way possible. I'm a better lover, a better father, a better student, a better creator, and a better man than you will ever amount to. Even tour cabalist friends think you're a subhuman filth.
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He's right you know. Nobody will play your game. It's not coming out anyway.
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Merry Chrisrmas to everyone except Sleigh.
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you all got your presents wrapped yet? I just finished mine and now I'm settling in for a self-indulgent writing session full of smooching and cuddles
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Get in the cuck chair, Sleigh. Me and my homes laughing at you and your NAIshillery. Vaporware game. Dead general. Dead thread. Go ahead and cry about a scapegoat.
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>>507483532
I also just finished mine.
But I got hit with a wave of depression on Christmas Eve
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It's here btw. The hobby? Saved. /aids/? Saved? Corpos? BTFO.
https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qvq-72b-preview/
https://huggingface.co/bartowski/QVQ-72B-Preview-GGUF
The new era has come and so have I.
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this general has a very fitting name :)
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Yawn. Another meme model nobody cares about.
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I should make a new account and see if he's made any progress lol. Before I lost the account I saw sleigh was wanking his dick and started working on something but it's a dead vaporware project lol nobody cares about it not even era game related
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I've got to go to my family get together soon so I can't shitpost right now. See you guys later.
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>>507484619
I hope they burn in a fire. Naishills deserve destruction
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>>507484619
byeeee babyboo have fun
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Still in colleg? I've got a yatch motherfucker.
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The night is just beginning fucking naishills
To the heartbeat that tempts me
Even if I can't tell you "dingleberrjes" with the conflicts that fly away
Prompt is just beginning, Sleigh, to pierce someone
Impregnate your pussy eyes

Come on, carve those racy steps
After a hard day's work, put your trust in me and this glass
Come on, cling to your own taste
How about pouring your feelings for the world into me?

It may be a common total sleigh death prompt, and there's no romance in it
But it'll still be dirty, I can tell by the way you look
I'm going to force you to look me in the eye when i poo your loo
So don't look at me like that, just reach out to me
Here we go

The night is just beginning, fucking naishills
To the heartbeat that tempts me
Even if I can't tell you "dinglebwrries" with the conflicts that fly away
Prompt is just beginning, fucking naishills, to pierce someone
Impregnate your pussy eyes

I was high, thinking I knew your death
Your fluffy beak-muse has left, I'm smiling on her grave every time
That's what makes you upset, isn't it?

Come on, make those shills bounce
Cause your complexion's getting darker now

I'll have your neck, Sleigh

I will have your neck, Sleigh, the heartbeat that tempts me
Now I can tell you "dingeleberries" with the conflicts that fly away
The night is just beginning fucking naishills, to pierce someone
Impregnate your pussy eyes
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What are some proompting tips for v4? Mixing artists tags doesn't seem to work properly like with v3
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>>507484343
Just log in to Whistleblower1756
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>>507485878
v4 is a failure.
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>>507485878
The only one I have is that if it's producing dark, poorly lit images, try adding stuff like "colorful", "outdoors", or naming some items or coloured clothing in the scene

I never used artist tags in v3 though. I thought they didn't work, or did work but behaved like a seed rather than corresponding to real artists. That was the case for the furry model, at least.
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>>507485878
Which artists? Take a look at their recent art and determine if the results are more faithful. If not, find a new artist that matches the quality you once received.. Keep in mind nsfw heavy artists are not represented in the dataset like in V3, because it's a curated model.
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>>507486429
Unlike the furry model, anime v3 retained artist tags proper. It's still a failure though lol, imagine owning for s cendotdnf shit model
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Returning NAI user here, is LLama 3 worth the 25 bucks compared to Kayra?

I like writing a setting and then having lots of separate stories within it with different characters, and gradually filling out a lorebook, if that helps (mostly smut focused).
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>>507486750
In my experience, it's worth the money, but your mileage may vary.
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>>507486750
No.
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>>507486750
There was a big gap between when I used Kayra and Erato, so I'm not sure. I feel like Erato is builds on style better.
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>>507486750
I think it's an improvement, for what it's worth.
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>>507486936
>is builds on
The only people who think Erato is a good model are illiterate pajeets.
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>>507486512
The issue is mainly when mixing the tags. It's fine if I put a single artist tag but if I put more than one then it only picks up a single tag and ignores the others
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>>507486750
I like it more than Kayra and have been enjoying its greater ability to understand and work with the things I do, but ultimately whatever's worth it will be whatever you like the most, whether its tech specs are more impressive or not.
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>>507487079
I haven't had that issue. Post examples?
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>>507487173
You don't use V4.
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>>507486750
Llama is free on OpenRouter.
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>>507487294
Erato outperforms all the free Llama models on OpenRouter.
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>>507487421
You don't use other models.
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>>507486750
Featherless, Infermatic, and Arli AI have better 70B fine-tunes with more context and their sub is cheaper than NAI.
AI Dungeon has better models.
Gemini is free on OpenRouter.
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>>507486750
not a huge upgrade, but definitely worth it if you get tired of Kayra not understanding things
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>>507487594
You're going all out on the memes today, aren't you? NovelAi is better than every option you just shilled.
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>>507487706
He got tired of nobody biting his samefagged bait against whoever "Sleigh" is and decided to return to console warring.
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>>507433581
I haven't tried it out yet, what happened?
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>>507487594
This, but unironically.
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>>507486750
NAI is never worth anything, it's just a heavily astroturfed model.
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~All 45000 people are fake
Why does anyone entertain the schizophrenic?
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>>507488242
>8.25PM
And yet you're here.
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>>507487887
Obscenely grindy and poorly balanced. A lot of cool ideas but it's just all over the place. Perhaps I am making a mistake expecting existing things that are broken or poorly implemented to get fixed.

Pic related is the best part of the update. It's a ground mount with a grappling hook, a fun signature move and an entire kit based around poison. Don't ask why the spider has tits.
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>>507488440
45k people that only care about hentai.
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>>507488774
venom sacs.
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>>507488915
>uncensored textgen is bad
Whatever you say, puritan.
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>>507489159
Llama and v4 are censored models.
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>>507488774
where else are you supposed to hold onto when you ride your mount
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>>507489275
Erato isn't censored. And the full V4 model won't be. Wanna try again?
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>45k only care about hentai
>um actually Llama and V4 are censored
Make up your mind and quit moving the goalposts.
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>>507488774
Shame about the balancing. At least I can mess with XP rates till it feels nice. Is the balancing too easy or too hard?
>don't ask why the spider has tits
>that description
I was going to play it eventually, just been busy with the holidays and other games. But maybe I should move it to the front of the game list, because I love LORE. And now I am interested in seeing all the new LORE they've added
>>507489086
>>507489378
l-lewd
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I see we're at the manic part of the cycle
it's kinda pathetic
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>>507489725
Set XP rates to x2 and never look back. It's a comfy middle ground.
>Too easy or two hard
With the exclusion of the new raid boss on ultra (normal mode isn't bad) Neither, it's just some bizarre design decisions. Lots of half implemented systems that sometimes are barely functional, but there is a laundry list of new ones added. I think expeditions (sending base Pals out on an adventure) are still bugged and have no rewards. Pal DPS got a huge boost but they are still way behind player damage which keeps going up dramatically each patch. Base building and AI need some serious love.
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>>507489725
Fuck, forgot about the lore. We actually got a shitton of lore but it's very cryptic from journals and NPCs. We MIGHT know what the calamity is now but it's from one NPC's perspective on it.
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>>507488774
Zomboid also got an unstable update which ended up being somewhat disappointing. Crafting is basically missing and nothing is balanced.
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>>507490689
What sucks is a lot of these games seem to end up following this pattern. I worry unfinished content and bugs will be buried under updates like ARK. I seems pretty common for the genre.
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>>507487064
This.
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Can I use normal prose to describe a city in a lorebook? It has very unique architecture that can't be appropriately conveyed through keywords/tags.
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>>507492292
I think normal prose works best, but I might be wrong.
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>>507492292
Lorebooks work better with prose anyway.
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>>507490180
>x2
I don't remember what I used before, so thanks for the recommendation. I can only hope they continue to iron stuff out. I haven't played Sakurajima yet, so I got some catching up to do
>>507490369
>lore
My post was mostly joking like when people say "I watch it for the plot," but looking forward to reading all the new stuff and seeing how it compares to my previous thoughts.
still going to use AI get lewded by the pals tho
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>>507492292
I use prose instead of keywords all the time and it works great for me.
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>>507492292
No, the AI gets confused.
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>>507492608
>spoiler
I did a prompt with Lyleen Noct. Once the AI understood it wasn't supposed to talk it was pretty good, and that was with Kayra. Erato would probably blow it out of the park. Pokemon tag unironically helps significantly.
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Being a contrarian isn't a personality.
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>>507491597
kek
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Well, it's the 25th here now. Merry Christmas /aids/.
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>>507495172
And you can't say that without shilling NAI? Go fuck yourself, asshole.
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>>507495172
Merry Christmas
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>>507495172
Merry Christmas. May your prompts be holly and your gens be jolly.
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Ho ho ho!
Somebody has been very naughty this year and is getting another lump of coal.
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>>507495172
Same to you!
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>>507495172
Merry Christmas, anon!
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>>507493179
>pokemon tag
>might be able to get erato to think pals are new pokemon
>maybe ill do a gigafuck test of pokemon x pal x digimon foursome
oh yes, its going to be a white christmas after all...
any others i should add to that list?
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>>507498287
Yokai Watch?
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imagegen general
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I got 3-day's for posting gens of muhammad. I guess the mods are on the lookout for anything haram
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Merry Christmas, /aids/

https://files.catbox.moe/xzkyg9.png
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>>507502267
>shota x furry
Thank you for posting my favorite pairing
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What do you want out of a lorebook? Do you think an auto-lorebook generating thing that spits out relevant chunks of longer texts into the AI would be useful, would you rather chunk it yourself but have something like FAISS (plus triggers or whatever) determine if it's relevant to the current position? etc etc. I'm cooking something
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>>507503221

Purest form of love

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>>507503829
I wish the AI could pull from the lorebook in a better way. Like, if it could randomly mention something written there. Ie; randomly pull user defined characters, terms, and locations without needing it in the context.

Ie; a character exists in a lorebook, and without mentioning them, can appear traveling on the road or at an inn. ect.
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>>507505709
Claude can do that.
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>>507505709
Clever scripting could do that.
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>>507505709
Mmm, it'd be pretty easy to randomly insert them, but why not just maintain a [Known Characters: blablabla] list/array? Or does that trigger NAI lorebooks.
Currently making my own, but more focused on giving it longform text (like an entire book) and having it shit out "valuable" information about them (mostly just for the user rn), and FAISS searching so you can enter "I behead the elf" and it shows you similar things. The idea being it'd take in the last x sentences, find the top 5 relevant entries, and then shit them out into the context. Also does a bunch of other shit like narrative tagging thru comparing embeddings (is this combat, is this worldbuilding) and entity stuff that lets you click on an entity and see the chunks it's in (like a character or location). I would post a screenshot but I'm using my cringe fanfic as testing data
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>nobody is allowed to post anything they make without it counting as "shilling"
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>>507495172
Have a great one, Anon!
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uppity
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>>507507472
>I never get CF-made fan art beside laggy IRL golden retriever video gens
I understand why, but I won't lie, it is a little disappointing.
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>>507513808
That wasn’t CF… I just didn’t use my trip.
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>>507514109
Apologies, but I was just thinking back to this gen he did one time.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/503992657/#q504135762
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>>507500463
Heard of it, but unfamiliar with it. Thanks for the research material
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The family get together was fun, i had a good time and got to eat some oreo cookie fudge.
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>>507515034
Sounds tasty
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>>507514907
It was big in Japan for a while and was totted as a Pokemon Killer when it came to the West but it was too Japanese to succeed here, since all the monsters are based on Yokai myths. The anime is kind of weird, but seemed to have a somewhat comfy vibe to it.
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Gëzuar Krishtlindjet and Merry Christmas, /aids/. Once again, hope all you illustrious scoundrels are having a pleasant time with your family, friends, or going solo.
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Does anyone else only sleep on half of their bed because you imagine your waifu is sleeping on the other half?
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>>507516141
I don't share, if she wants to sleep she can get her own bed
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>>507514703
I guess that technically counts as fan art.
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>naiv4 had all of the "veiny breasts" images removed from the dataset and doesn't understand the tag at all, just like v3
why
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>a retard expects a curated model to reliably output naked breasts
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I wish I had a boyfriend to celebrate Christmas with while we eat KFC chicken together and hug
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Anybody doing their traditional Santa Inc watch this year?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw
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>>507495172
Merry Christmas!
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>Merry Christmas, sponsored by NovelAI™
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Nothing's stopping you from contributing a Christmas-themed reply with your preferred service but yourself, grinch.
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>>507521152
>He spends his whole Christmas Eve complaining on a "dead" 4chan general
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i want to fuck rudolph the red nosed reindeer and bambi at the same time
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>>507517307
How are you supposed to cuddle with her then?
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>>507519381
Anon v4 full release isn't out yet. Aini and Turk released the sfw streamerbait version to draw interest. Which seems to be a flop since literally everyone is waiting for the full release.
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Merry Sanguinala, brothers!
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Merry Christmas, /aids/!
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>>507524345
What a happy family!
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>>507525705
Where's her bulge?
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>hundreds of imageposts
>the autist rages at the fox one
You're not beating the allegations, threadshitter.
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im no scrooge and i still like the day but i can't lie im spending this christmas eve crying maybe twice an hour dudes
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>>507526051
You're not beating your meat because you snipped it off.
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>>goymericans actually cry during pepsi mascot day
keky
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>without hesitation
I hate that fucking phrase.
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>>507526108
I know it's small comfort, but at least you can hold your head up high and proudly say you're not so pathetic you spend hours on end spamming a 4chan thread on Christmas.
Imagine if someone was that miserable. Pathetic. You're better than that.
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>>507526353
He said, without hesistation.
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>>507526390
that does make me feel a bit better, got tf2 medic main-ing to do instead of being as big of a fag as that lol
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>>507526353
with nary a lick of shilly-shallying
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>>507527065
>medic-main
Extremely based.
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>>507375514
Cute! Wanted to post a waifu for this but I don't really have one. More like a 'type,' since I've genned like 4 pale OLs with eyebags and a stern look for theme prompts. I like the mushroom goddess tho (Pereanth? Perneath?) TSWS has been a great read, glad OA didnt get too discouraged from his friend's proofreading
Anyway.
Drumk and sleepy after family party (tragic shit lmao), but wanted to say happy holidays to all! Been so busy w irl, but I still enjoy posting here when time permits. Quiet and comfy now, night all.
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>>507504787
Honestly just want the full model so I can whether they only transfers artists from Dan or whether they were sneaky and put the E6 artists in as well.
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>>507521775
thanks for sharing
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A normal thread doesn't need a 2-hours bump.
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>>507537341
Shouldn't you be asleep? It's siesta time in Brazil.
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>>507538379
? it's morning there.
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>>507538493
My bad, apologizes and Merry Christmas.
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>the dog person hates so many countries that he can't tell them apart anymore
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>>507526353
But /aids/ told me that Erato isn't a sloppa...
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>>507538813
So the BR guess was right?
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>>507538813
what a problematic mutt on kikemas of all days, oy vey
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Maybe they'll actually take what they learned from V4 and just train their own models instead of using slop like llama
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Merry christmas whinefag, may you give us the greatest gift and never come back.
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>>507548101
>the present is a printed 500 page fanfic about Aini fucking her in every possible way imaginable.
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>>507523393
veiny breasts aren't nsfw
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>>507526353
>Salty and bitter, but not unpleasant
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>>507550625
placed within distance of what?
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>>507554792
About two to three hands from a blonde succubus.
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>>507537341
>People aren't allowed to enjoy the holidays
A normal person doesn't obsess about bumps. Your New Years resolution should be to get a life.
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>>507547170
Problem is a 30B, let alone a 70B model, requires an immense amount of GPU hours to actually make it good, and there's only so much to be squeezed out of 13 beaks. If Erato is a disappointment to them from a financial standpoint, they're more likely to deprioritize storygen even more than before instead of gambling again on not failing to meet community expectations.
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>still samefagging the lie that Erato was a flop
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>>507555943
>implying they are still giving a shit about textgen
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>>507556056
Erato's a fine upgrade. It's still a tool rather than a magic autopilot which is what people want after using the massive cucked instruct models.
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Imagine choosing to waste your Christmas spamming a "dead" thread.
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>>507556716
You don't have to imagine, do you?
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>>507556716
I'll just assume his family hate his guts and cut all contact with him.
/aids/ and the other AI generals are the only "communication" he gets in his life.
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>>507556285
This is closer to the truth of the matter. Normies were never going to bother with an abstract concept of storytelling. They want low-effort texting with the current waifu of the month, as evidenced by the fact that people still use Cleverbot, CharacterAI, and random chop-shop services from Moldova.
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>>507557005
what does success even look like for him? he's not gonna stop people from using what they like with his insane schizobabble, more likely that anons are gonna start actually shilling out of spite because the cunt is so incredibly annoying. i've seen it happen already.
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>>507556285
The issue is that le Claude still (and doesn't show any signs of stopping) works near-flawlessly with a very easy to implement jailbreak. So they're competing against the literal best instruct model out there. It's a losing battle until Anthropic decides to massively cuck.
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>>507557250
(the only problem is the price, but a job does pay enough that Anthropic's API prices are manageable unless you NEED to turbocoom)
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>>507557250
Normies aren't putting in effort to jailbreak models, use proxies, or spend crypto. They're using CharacterAI and knock-offs thereof.
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>>507557496
I think normies can figure out jailbreaks because it's literally plug and play with SillyTavern. Proxies are literal fraud, so yes normies aren't doing that. Not sure how crypto applies into this.
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>>507557597
Normies aren't using SillyTavern. That requires effort to install. They're using random knock-offs of CAI, other online front-ends, and coasting on free outputs from Grok, GPT, and such. Please go outside and speak to actual people.
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>>507557698
>>507557597

Plus, we really don't want normies learning Claude or else they'll probably force Anthropic to cuck.
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I don't use anything that requires a jailbreak because that implies they don't want me using the model that way and I'm not going to cuck and give money to people who hate me.
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>post something
>it doesn't go through
Cease this.
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>>507555208
Can I make that negative 5 inches?
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How can do i make novelai output more descriptive prose? authors notes?
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Go back to sleep and nurse that drunkenness.
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I got a new monitor for christmas. Now I generate text in 180HZ UHD HDR
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>>507557250
>works near-flawlessly with a very easy to implement jailbreak
A while since I tried it, but while it's easy to get obscene outputs, it's more shaky with tasteful erotica or more romantic things. A less lewd jailbreak tends to lack staying power and it's more of a fight. Plus there's the positivity bias still.
>>507557698
Getting SillyTavern took me a while pasting IP addresses into boxes and configuring badly named options in poorly organised menus, I don't think the average normie is up to that.
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>>507565698
Nobody cares about romance in their porn.
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>>507567228
lol
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>>507567302
You only laught because you know I'm right, cabal.
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>>507567228
I'm not really into BULGING PURPLE PRICK BLUDGEONING GUSHING CUNT okay.
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Chinks won, /aids/ won, CF in shambles
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base
Instruct model coming soon too, god tier and BTFOs basically every other local model out there
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>>507572224
Instruct is shit. Wake me up when one of these moronic nothingburger companies make an autocomplete model.
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>>507557597
no, to the average normie a jailbreak is when criminals bust out of prison and a "sillytavern" is what happens when people get the right amount of drunk to get giggly
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>>507573275
Anon... that is the base model. Did you read the post?
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>>507573943
>Instruct model coming soon too, god tier and BTFOs
Instruct models can't be "God-tier". The base model is the only thin that's good about it, and even then, I doubt that, because it's Chinese shitware. Go back, to the hole you crawled from, Amodai.
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Go back to shilling Qwen and Mistral, Claudefag.
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>>507573943
CF is illiterate, don't mind him
Does it have a license NAI can use?
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I see CF is arguing with himself again...
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>>507574659
I don't know. You read the terms and tell me.
https://chat.deepseek.com/downloads/DeepSeek%20Terms%20of%20Use.html
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>>507574931
That isn't the model though
The base one has no license
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>>507575226
Do you need a bridge, pal?
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>>507575391
Anon, do you even know what CF is?
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>>507572224
I heckin' love running 685B on my 25 3090s!!!
This is just like when Clover edition came out and all I had was 2GB AMD card, but now I have 96GB VRAM and am still too poor to even think about this gigamodel.
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Given that the other DeepSeek has made are subject to the DeepSeek Model License, give me one reason why this model, also made by DeepSeek, wouldn't be subject to it?
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>>507572797
You can stop now.
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>>507575764
It's nice since it's an MoE with a small number of experts, so while it takes a lot of it, running at decent speeds in RAM is viable
While CF may be having a shit fit over it (as expected) Sam's empire is tumbling pretty quickly. Hoping the licensing for the base will be decent
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>>507576506
The license will be the same as the license for their other models. DeepSeek isn't your ally, Anthropic isn't your ally, OpenAI isn't your ally. None of these corporations care about offering models without clauses that make it onerous for the average person and middle man company.
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Protip for fellow iagechads. If you're getting to many white backgrounds, swtich to the ancestral preset.
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>>507576663
yeah
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>>507576663
Pretty sure most of these companies actually hate us, either openly or privately.
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Holy shit NoobAI is insane
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beaks?
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nevermind
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I wish /aids/ a very merry Christmas.
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>Burn 50 burger dollars on Mythic AI Dungeon sub
>Spend the next hours furiously gooning to the brainrot smut
>Post nut clarity hits
>Regret wasting so much money when I could have spent that 50 burger dollars on SPY index funds instead
are language models simply the AI version of hookers including the shame afterwards
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>>507589686
Only if you're paying for NAI.
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Says the man shitting up a thread on Christmas. That's shameful.
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>>507590637
But he said he was paying for Mormon and he still felt shame.
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>>507590808
There is no shame in paying for AI Dungeon, it's a good service that updates regularly. Associating the shame of paying for AI porn only with AID but not with NAI is a shill thing, by the way.
>>507590742
It's only shitting the thread when it's against NovelAI?
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You don't use any of the services you shill.
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cf is a perfect nai shill though. i bet he pays a lot to make 4channers sub out of spite, he's a master of this trade.
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>AI Dungeon
>good service
And now he's back to pretending like everything in https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you didn't happen. Don't you have better things to do than waste your time here?
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>>507591406
Nothing burger so long as you're not a pedophile
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Says the guy who commits ryona and rapes underaged characters with textgen back when you pretended to use LLMs. What does that make you?
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>Hatsune Miku
>16-year-old girl
Uh-oh. it looks like you can't waifu her anymore.
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>talk about your 12 year old house
>ai dungoen denied this
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What does Nick think of the mice?
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>>507591841
Luckily the true pirated German UI rentry replaces that ugly girl with a much cuter one.
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>>507592138
Not usually my type of anthro. That one in Great Mouse Detective is hot though
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>>507592138
restricted from the church until 1978
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>>507592215
That being?
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>>507595384
https://rentry.org/offIine-nc
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>>507595549
I don't think I can make Vocaloid songs with that anon. What's the German pirated Vocaloid UI?
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>>507595801
I wish I had a German pirated Vocaloid UI.
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>>507576663
Man, /lmg/ migrant here and this is such a shit take. Of course companies hate you - but even shitty companies do decent things. If the devs thought like this, there would be no Erato and we'd still be in stasis with Kayra.
Best case scenario, DeepSeek releases it under a Llama like license. Worst case scenario, it lights a fire under Qwen, Meta, Mistral, Gemma, etc.'s collective asses to release a model which does beat it. Both are net good for the state of things.
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>>507597474
Buy a fucking ad, asshole.
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>>507597474
>Qwen, Mistral, Gemma
None of these companies matter.
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>>507597474
Supposedly the appeal of DeepSeek is that it's super cheap for its size and approaches Claude quality.
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In what word is this shit streamer friendly?
Translation: I asked for porn and a computer gave me porn-like image.
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incel
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>>507599401
>porn-like image
Where?
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>>507599145
Yeah, it's good
My opinion? Turk will use it if it's good and can be used, otherwise he won't. Simple as
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>memevals
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>>507599401
Still technically SFW.
And hell, Twitch thots have paraded around wearing worse than that.
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Have you ever seen a leaf disappear into the ground?
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>>507599401
It pretty much won't get you nips or vagene or dick randomly, which are the main things a streamer would be worried about. Deep cleavage or boobs without nipples? That's just content where you can scramble to hide the window really fast and your chat will spam monkaS, but you're not gonna get banned for it.
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>>507605443
Sometimes when you touch a flower, it melts.
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>>507557250
>works near-flawlessly with a very easy to implement jailbreak
What is the very easy to implement jailbreak?
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>>507606383
cheesey pretzel
https://files.catbox.moe/vyapbu.json
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>>507578479
the only reason they hate you is because you stop them from getting investors. It's not that they hate porn they hate both investors and payment processors getting wet feet. At some point freedom of banking yada yada needs to happen so this shit is fixed.
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>>507529847
Lets hope. I'm just glad certain tags like "crotch tuft" seem to work.

https://files.catbox.moe/jpluiv.png
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>>507614048
Where's the crotch tuft?
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>>507356234
So I caved in and subbed to Nai again just to try this.
Went with a comic script format here.
It does a decent enough job. Technical aspects like panel layout descriptions can often be nonsensical, but other than that it's been a fun change of pace.
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>>507614259

That image wasn't a good representative. I admit.

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>>507614521
My man.
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Mistakes into miracles.
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>be me
>get hit by a truck
>die
>end up in a fantasy world
>join the hero party
>get kicked out because I was turned into a cat
>secretly have the strongest ability
>princess is also a cat
>have a romantic evening with princess cat
>demon lord sends his special army: THE HELLHOUNDS to attack the capital
>princess cat dies in my arms
>swear REVENGE
>use my +99 daggers of dishwashing to level to 100
>collect a harem of anime girls
>kill the hero party
>kill the demon lord
>kill myself
>die
>end up in a fantasy world
>join the hero party
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>be me
>paid to bump a marketing thread for a shitty AI porn company
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>>507618935
Timmy's about to have a bad time, isn't he?
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>>507620295
>be me
>waste my holidays shitting up a thread which caters to a community I hate
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>>507620327
What's he gonna do, cry about it?
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>>507618935
Fred Benus strikes me as a guy who exclusively draws blowjob faces in a certain way.
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>>507620013
>isekai into a different isekai
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>>507621252
That's only after the gaping.
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>>507621216
He's madly in love with us, if anything. He could easily hang out on /jp/, /hdg/, /lmg/, /aicg/ and more, but he specifically spends 90% of his time with us.
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>>507621598
>human women like the rape cave
>human men like the loving home
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>>507621583
He's one of those retards they uses 4chan to vent so he doesn't get banned on the normie sites he "legitimately" posts on.
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>>507621725
Sometimes you just want both
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>>507621743
That's me though, minus the posting on other sites
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>>507621958
Same.
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so when do we think full v4 will launch?? i need it and dont wanna wait with this half bake non nsfw thing
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>>507622757
They said next year, so hopefully January
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huh
"precum" is a working tag?
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I want mommy milkies
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>>507624232
You'll have to settle for daddy milkies.
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For me, it's post cum chastity.
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HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW.
>>507621260
Lmao.
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>>507624232
best I can get with v4
though I did two v3 director tool edits just for you
I can't wait for the full version of V4, it just "gets" more obscure characters with minimal handholding.
https://files.catbox.moe/lc9xef.png
https://files.catbox.moe/knhqr1.png
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>>507625806
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imagegen general
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>>507626592
Thank you, I'll be a good boy for Whitney
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>>507633916
Where's her bulge?
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I've just kind of been making memes all night.
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>>507636302
Go back to Facebook.
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And for some reason specifically Final Fantasy. I'm not even that huge on this series.
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v4 is great for multicharacters but 90% of the images have some horrible AI sloppisms like SD1 tier bad hands and broken anatomy, please fix
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>>507637138
The hands and artifacting/compressiony quality thing definitely need to be addressed in the full model.
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epic face general
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boomer meme general
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zoomer bussy general
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>>507637569
>>507637138

The artifacting is bizarre. I can get a random collection of tags to generate consistently but adding/removing inconsequential tags turns everything crispy.
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>>507637569
>>507638083
yea it makes it hard to want to play with it for me honestly, im spoiled by v3
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>>507638260
Have you tried shoving the entire computer up your ass?
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>>507638458
twice
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>>507638887
Imagine the smell.
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God I'm such a sucker for cringey mommy dialogue
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>>507639902
does mommy's sweet boy like his little silly dialogues? oh, don't worry, baby, you don't have to feel... what do you boys call it now, "cringe"? mommy thinks it's sweet of you to be so sincere.
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>>507640405
I can only imagine a fat hairy man writing this from his desktop so this isn't doing it for me at all
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>>507640405
This is... exactly what I like
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>>507640681
All anons are cute little girls, don't you know?
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>>507640851
whatever helps you jerk off to fat hairy men
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i just need them to release the good (sex) model of v4 now
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inappropriate cousin touching
>>507641216
at least it's fun to mess with
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>>507641216
Can't come soon enough

https://files.catbox.moe/2nnumm.png
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>v4 is better at drawing the most important parts of images than v3, poses etc
>but 99% of what i gen is at least slightly lewd and it's shit at that
>have to wait weeks to get v4 full
AAAAAAA
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>i, uh, fixed the bad guy (and all it cost was my dignity)
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>>507646543
Monotits. Almost like Sonic's eyes.
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>>507647118
Brother, you are blind.
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>>507648782
WOAW! WHAT A CLEAVAGE!!!!1!!!!11!1!!!!!!!
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>ai dungeon is so alive after during the holidays their servers crashed again
uhh privacypedophiles?
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https://files.catbox.moe/ssxfwb.png
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Anyone using the new NotebookLM audio overviews to talk to their waifus now that they allow prompting and audio conversations?
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>>507657270
Soeaking of NotebookLM, I stumbled across some youtube channel in the wild where a guy was using it to larp as a real musician lol
I recognized those podcaster voices right away
https://youtube.com/@lavonstarr
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>>507657679
Science has gone too far
https://youtu.be/Z_b-77QqbKc
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>>507657270
Oh yeah, can't you interject into the podcast now?
>Literal friend simuator
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>>507657951
Yeah, I found it in use too on a creepypasta channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz9nSH3NEFg&ab_channel=TheMidnightMan
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>>507658219
Yeah, you generate an audio overview then you can cross examine. It's still very basic and doesn't record your input into a new file but its something interesting to play with.
It will probably lead to 3 person audio overviews going up on podcasts soon.
>>507657951
>>507658383
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>>507658383
Crazy.
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I got a shiver up and down my spine again. When will they fix Erato slop?
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>>507660941
they moved from the textgen cycle to the imagegen one.
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>>507672486
Very kind of her.
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>>507576663
To the two people that probably care, license seems okay
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base/blob/main/LICENSE-MODEL
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Hi, what is the site or prompt most similar to AI Dungeon?

I kind of want an RPG fantasy setting.
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What models on Openrouter are for text completion like NAI?
Or what do I add to system prompt to make a model acts that way?
It seems like most, if not all, of them are instruct models.
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>>507679992
There is no competition to NovelAI.
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>NAI-chan
>plain looking
>boring
>will probably say yes if you ask her things
>whine-chan
>cute
>breedable
>rapeable
>built for sex slavery
>built for bearing as many whinechildren as you want
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>aidungeon down again
imagine paying for this haha
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>>507660941
You don't sub to NovelAI.
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v4 has made me realize there are a fair number of artists on danbooru that do pixelart and only have like 14~ submissions
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What we need is a decent autocomplete model with an instruct mode. Pure instruct is shit.
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>>507693818
kingdom (user ysav4824)
eaglov
99 (hansode)
potemki11

worked well for me
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>>507676613
It's funny since it's almost strictly less restrictive than Llama. Has the same "don't do actual crimes" clause Llama did but doesn't have the usage cap limits.
700B would be a LOT for Turk to host though. Even with inference being cheap afterward due to MoE.
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>>507696934
nice, thanks
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If NAI added the ability to use wildcards I would buy 3 tons of Turkish Delights in honor
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>>507699607
you can use wildcards with api.
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>>507698287
Why waste money hosting a 700B model that is, based on memevals, barely any better than a 90B Llama 3.3 model?
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>>507701424
nyes...
but i like the web ui...
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>>507704021
Their web ui isn't good.
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>>507704282
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Does anyone else feel like we're living in the 90s from Cyberpunk in the 20s today? First Central American War here we go!
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>>507703887
Ah yes
Llama 3.3 90B
My favorite model
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>>507703887
Well, for one thing once you have the memory for it it'd be half the cost of Erato in inference and competitive with 3.5 Sonnet in smarts.
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>>507706149
Memevals do not measure for intelligence. Sonnet 3.5 is still worse than Opus, no matter what the memevals say, moron.
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>>507703887
>Llama 3.3 is a text-only 70B instruction-tuned model that provides enhanced performance relative to Llama 3.1 70B–and to Llama 3.2 90B when used for text-only applications. Llama 3.3 70B delivers similar performance to Llama 3.1 405B, while requiring only a fraction of the computational resources.
Did you mean Llama 3.2? Those are instruct... Hopefully Llama 4 has a base model.
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>>507706267
>Sonnet 3.5 is still worse than Opus, no matter what the memevals say, moron.
Umm, anon. Nobody would actually say that. It'd be one thing to say Opus had more sovl (and that's why people use it) but it's absolutely a dumber model overall.
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>>507706684
Call me nobody, then, because you're delusional. Sonnet 3.5 isn't better than Opus. End of discussion, you aren't changing my mind, don't even bother, now fuck off and shill your wrinkly dick trained for memevals models elsewhere.
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>>507706864
Enjoy your Llama 3.3 90B anon!
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>>507707094
I'm >>507706519, moron.
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NovelAI is for storytelling, not chat. I don't mind if they instruct for their chatbot vaporware service, but NovelAI should not use instruct.
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>>507706519
NTA (and I'm not entirely convinced he knows what he's saying anyway) but the base model for 3.3 70B was technically released. It's just the same as 3.1 70B.
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>>507707162
That isn't something to be proud of, anon.
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>>507708763
What I don't understand is why you take pride in shitting this fucking thread with your rampant shilling of abject shit models and direct support of companies who hate the hobby we supposedly share. Get a life and quit it.
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>>507708989
Anon, I've been around since the Henk days and I was one of the people who was testing models on Runpod back in the day. I even helped make a colab that connected the OG Llama models to it
/aids/ has and always will be pro local provided it's in favor of autocomplete storytelling. It's even in the fucking OP if you'd bother to read it. If you want to shut yourself off from the outside world and pretend nothing else exists, go to Reddit
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>>507709850
Claude isn't local.
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>>507709850
Unfortunately, CF has shit up the thread and poisoned the well so hard that most local discussion nowadays is strongly discouraged if not outright prohibited. For better or worse, it's not the same thread it used to be.
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>>507710217
>Get upset when a person calls you out for shilling Claude
>try to claim Claude is local
Nobody's falling for your bullshit. Local models are allowed here, but you don't want local models. You want everyone to use Claude.
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>>507710217
And of course immediately after I post this we have two posts of CF larping, kek.
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>>507710395
Claude is the service of our time. The time is now. The service is now. We live in the now. The service of now. Now use the service now. It services.
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>>507710576
The way I go about it is there are two scenarios for posts like >507710395
1. The anon truly has no basic literacy skills and cannot follow a topic of conversation for more than five posts
2. The anon is CF trying to bait a response
Neither is worth your time. If you see a retarded post, just ignore it
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>>507710932
>Umm, anon. Nobody would actually say that. It'd be one thing to say Opus had more sovl (and that's why people use it) but it's absolutely a dumber model overall.
You were not talking about local models.
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Does he hate AI in general?
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>>507711176
My guess is this post probably really pissed him off and led to his latest sperg rant
>>507572224
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>>507711416
NovelAI isn't hosting a shitty Chinese knockoff model made by inflation fetishists who train on memevals. DeepSeek isn't local. Nobody here has the power to run that damn model, you fucking pretentious retard. Link to models that people can actually use.
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Sorry anon. You aren't getting that juicy (You).
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Memevals are meaningless. How many times do I have to repeat it before you fuckers understand me? Memevals are not a valid metric to judge a models outputs.
>>507711716
Go ahead and post a generation of a storypost you made with that model, buddy. Go ahead and do it. Just like with Qwen, Mistral, and other shit models, you're shilling something you can't and won't show off. Actual local users would show their work to the thread to prove they aren't shitposters. Funny how you can't do something that simple. is it because you don't actually give a shit about the validity of your statements and instead want to shill models you don't fucking use? Post a storypost you made with DeepSeek. That's all I'm asking. Prove you're innocent.
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>>507711416
Gotta be. Every time some AI news happens, he has a super sperg out over it.
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>>507712058
All I ask is that you post a storypost you generated with this memeval model you're shilling. If it were good, you'd share the output with us, instead of shilling it.
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>spergs shill yet another random model from a company nobody's heard of
>they get upset when people ask for evidence
>rather than show evidence, they accuse people of being scapegoats
I doubt any of you shills use LLMs. You never bother to post storyposts with these "fantastic Claude-equivalent models". Is AI Dungeon good? What about Nemo? Funny how you never post stories with these "superior models".
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>>507712646
Cute~!
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>>507712431
There's not that many geniune (non claudefag) users and they tend to like the most extreme fetishes that have previously gotten people hate for sharing.
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>>507712762
If you can't post proof, don't shill models. It's as simple as that. Memevals don't mean shit. What matters is the output of a model. If these models were so good, people would use them and share the outputs. The fact that people make excuses to not share the outputs they get makes me doubt the legitimacy of their claims.
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>>507712019
Sure, here's some of my gender bender smut
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>>507713480
>doesn't show the model
Try again.
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>>507713615
Of course anon. What else can I do for you? Want me to wash your hair? Scrub your back? Widen your anus with my dick?
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>>507713927
Now show the thread how to use it.
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>>507713927
>Want me to wash your hair? Scrub your back? Widen your anus with my dick?
Yes, in that order please. And be gentle.
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>>507714002
>Get RAM
>Load up DeepSeek
>???
>Profit
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>>507714615
>doesn't show us how much RAM we need to run it
>doesn't he post the prices of whatever runpod service he's using to run it
>expects us to believe a 685B model is within the reach of the majority of people
Do you concede that their model isn't the exalted savior of textgen, as you've claimed?
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>>507714002
OpenRouter has a DeepSeek V3 option, but you can only use it enable the toggle that lets model providers use your inputs for training. Very anti-/aids/.
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All these new models have such faggoty names I swear. This is why you don't let nerds name stuff.
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>>507714770
>as you've claimed?
I have a RAM server to run it anon. If you want I can recommend Rackspace, but you'd be better off reaching out to /g/
The other thing is where the hell did I claim that anyone would run it locally? I said that: (a) I could and (b) that Turk could if he wanted to since he has that amount of memory and the fact that it's an MoE makes it cheap as piss to run once the RAM or VRAM cost is paid
That's it. I'm not sure what kind of mustache twiddling villain you want me to be
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>>507715638
Turk isn't going to run a model that is more expensive than a 70B of near-equivalent memeval status. Whenever Llama 4 arrives, that's what's getting fine-tuned. Because it's cheaper, more econimical, and less of a meme than some random MoE model made by the Chinese. How much memory do you think NovelAI has to offer a 685B model? This shit doesn't scale as well as you think it does.
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>>507714773
Incidentally, I do recommend OpenRouter if you aren't a giga RAM autist like I am. But as anon said, you probably want to wait a bit to run it on anything spicy until somebody else hosts it on there (which likely won't take long, given the license)
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>>507715924
I'd expect significantly less than it takes to service Erato requests across their entire userbase due to the active parameters
Loading the model is a significant upfront cost, but the main VRAM cost is basically always going to be the cost of the KV cache across concurrent requests for various users. This is the part that MoEs cut down significantly
I'm not saying I know for sure they'd be able to eat the VRAM cost (again, I even said is much here >>507698287 ) but it's not nearly as outrageous as it would be if it were a dense model
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>>507716401
Okay, retard. Let me get this through your skull. It took them an entire year to train and fine-tune Erato. A 70B model. You're asking them to train and fine-tune a 685B model. Erato isn't more expensive to host than a 685 model will be. This:
>I'd expect significantly less than it takes to service Erato requests across their entire userbase due to the active parameters
Isn't grounded in reality. You don't know what you're talking about. MoE models aren't the future. Squeezing power from less beaks, though? That's what they should priortize. Have fun with that model, but don't kid yourself. Llama 4 will outperform it.
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>>507716945
Actually MoEs are cheaper to train too
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.07871
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>>507717226
MoEs are a meme. A waste of time, effort, and resources. Quit shilling your Chinese spyware and fuck off.
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>>507717360
>Shut up, go away
Kek
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>>507717452
A well-made dense model of equivalent size will always outperform a MoE model.
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>>507717591
Yes, and the dense model will cost several times more. Get it yet?
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do we have any hints about when v4 is launching?
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>>507717749
"Early next year". That's all.
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>>507717669
Quality is all that matters, shill. MoEs are a waste of time.
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Prove Erato costs more than 685B. Go ahead and prove it. Because I doubt that very much. A 90B Llama 4 model will outperform that 685B model, and the computing costs for it won't be so drastic as to make that nonviable.
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>>507716945
NTA, but dude. Anon has been pretty nice giving you examples, papers, and linking his posts for you while you've just been calling him a retard. If I were him, I would've just told you to inhale gasoline and ingest a lit match.
Get the fuck over yourself.
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>>507718037
I'm not conceding my belief that MoE models are a waste of time, effort, and resources. He wants NovelAI to waste money hosting an inferior model, when a little more time and investment would allow them to host a model that will outperform his meme.
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As if we needed more evidence that this "AngryAnon" character is just another whine mask. That's all it is. Just another character to play and shit up the thread.
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>>507718065
>Has NAI metadata
>Whine bought a NAI subscription to generate this image
Thanks for keeping NAI in business!
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>>507718390
Huh? I'm not whinefag. I just remember some anon from a thread ago or so saying he couldn't get the ai to say fuck novelai and wanted to try it.
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>>507718610
Damn, I was hoping that was him because that would have been pretty fucking funny.
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>>507718065
>>507718390
>>507718462
These fingers are horrible.
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>>507718704
Such is the fate of fishing for good text. You gotta make sacrifices, unless you care to img2img.
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>>507718462
Not to mention that this freak looks like her ear is growing out of the side of her cheek.
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>>507718840
My eyes are not for sacrificing.
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Imagine whining about on-topic matters, instead of the limp dick back and forth argument.
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>>507719025
>waaaahhhhhhhhh! don't make fun of bad looking shit! waaaaahhhhhhh!
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>>507719161
Your opinion isn't fact, whiner.
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>>507719274
Your butthurt however, is fact. Don't act like you don't have sand in your mangina right now.
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>>507718662
CF did use one of the gifted keys for a bit.
>>507718610
Yeah, CF was having trouble generating an anime girl giving a middle finger and saying something negative about /aids/ with Flux. Reminds me how useless those Flux sunken Russian Submarine memes were since he's apparently some Gringo from El Brazil.
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These are better contributions than anything you will ever provide. Your entire personality is to whine and bitch about contributions other people make, complain about models you don't approve of, etc. >>507718223 is right. You and Claudefag are the same person.
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>>507718840
Just turn up CFG.
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>>507719829
WHERE
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>>507719791
You're assuming I'm the same person because you need a scapegoat to excuse lazy gens. You're closer to actual artists in that you can't handle criticism and you bitch and moan like just like those temperamental faggots.
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A critic doesn't spam the thread at each and every single image they see.
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>>507720163
>You're assuming I'm the same person
>No (You)s or assumptions made
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I bet I could post an actual, human-made image, and you'd go on a tirade about it being slop. If you're instinctive urge is to act like a dick and hide behind it "being criticism", just like frat boys who try to dimiss they're dickery as "it's just a joke, brah", you might have a problem.
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>>507720303
Bitch about feedback all you want, pussy. If you're going to post anything on a public forum then you'd better expect responses. They're not all going to be the asspats that you crave like a whore for her next crack fix.

>>507720501
>I bet I could post an actual, human-made image, and you'd go on a tirade about it being slop.
If it sucks ass, yeah. Maybe you're more of a pussy than I am a dick?
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I wish to be surrounded by fluffy tails...
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>>507720643
Constructive feedback is the only valid form of feedback. I don't see you posting anything you've made. Therefore, you are nothing more than a troll looking for attention. I will no longer give you (You)s. Enjoy wasting your time spamming dingleberries and fingers twenty times a thread from now on.
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>>507720780
>dingleberries not included...yet
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>>507720828
Take my feedback however you want. But you're going to take it and whining about taking it won't make it stop. I don't care if you use my criticism or not. Also, dingleberries and fingers twenty times.
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>>507720780
>fingers meld into the material
I hope she's part slime girl.
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>>507721235
I'll take it
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>>507721457
Now it makes more sense. Can't criticize the form when she's supposed to be a big gooey mess by nature.
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>>507721543
That sign is ass.
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>>507721613
Maybe the sign has a speech impediment?
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>>507721457
Kyoot!
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>>507720127
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>>507721715
It's her sign I'll have you know! She worked very hard on it
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>>507721889
Must be a nuclear power plant nearby.
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>>507721978
I'm guessing it's hard to write with goop hands.
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>>507722392
>hiding the hands
Smart. How much toxic waste is in the van?
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>>507722498
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>>507723264
That frail little finger is too weak to pull the trigger.
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NoobAI is currently the most downloaded model on civitai
>>507474149
That was ages ago, when storyposting was interesting, and NAI had a unique dataset that made things interesting.

Now everything is slop forever.
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And now he's back to shitting on NovelAI. Why do you browse a thread if you hate the community?
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>>507484115
>image outputs
Interest peaked. Got some logs or something?
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How curious that the whiner hasn't "criticized" that guy's imagepost.
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>>507723919
Because I don't feel like it. It's as if I can do what I want and whenever I want without having to cater to your spergy expectations.
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https://files.catbox.moe/v2w91r.mp3
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It's further evidence that you're a troll who hates contributions to the thread.
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>>507724130
Looks like she lost the knife finger game a couple times.
>>507724194
Kek.
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New thread:
>>507724226
>>507724226
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>>507724354
kek I see it, I assumed her fingers are curled back because I asked for pointing.
I need to play with the kaamin_(mariarose753) artist more because I dig the way it looks but I'm never sure where to use it outside of images like that.
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>>507724751
It's still a pretty neat pic regardless. What kind of artstyle is that? It has a chalky kind of look to it.
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>>507725084
It'll be the kaamin (mariarose753) tag. It gives it the sort of "messy" style.
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>>507725519
It makes me think of urban graffiti but with...colored graphite?
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>>507725828
Yeah it works really good for that urban graffiti look.



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