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Merry Christmas Edition

PC trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCfkgaaa08
PS5 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW4Fdh6zFM

>News:
Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99

>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki

>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/

>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of very low or very high rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.

>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY

OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta

Previous thread: >>507381496
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GOd bless us EVERYONE
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>Minthara, an easter egg companion with eight lines, makes the OP
>Gale, Astarion, and Wyll nowhere to be seen
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>>507491194
It's not a real Christmas thread until someone finds the pettiest reason possible to start a fight, so thank you.
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namefags are so annoying.
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Christmas missionary with Astarion
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>>507491559
RARE ritual post.
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>>507491529
Not really petty!
>>507491489
Bless the Camp Bike!
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New Tav. She's a human Warlock. Her name's Zora. What do we think?
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[to the tune of jingle bells]

Dashing through the fight,
In battered armor torn,
Lae’zel sparks our fright,
So hideous and forlorn!

Her stench the goblins fear,
They gasp, they gag, they flee,
Though face and musk may terrify,
She fights ferociously!

Oh! Lae’zel smells, Lae’zel smells,
Foul in every way!
Oh, what fun it is to watch
Her foes drop in dismay, hey!
Lae’zel smells, Lae’zel smells,
Ugly? That’s okay;
But if you stand too close to her,
You might just pass away, hey!
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>>507491948
cute. i think gale would have the hots for her 100%.
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>>507492006
sometimes you guys are alright
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we wish you a wokegendermas we wish you a wokegendermas, we wish you a wokegendermas
and a happy new year!
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>>507492690
that one was shit throw your back into it if you're going to do this
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Wow, another Christmas. With new year coming soon after, it's a good time to reflect on our wonderful year of Baldur's Gate 3.

This game really is special, blending the production values of a AAA budget with the effort of true RPG enthusiasts. A killer formula that unsurprisingly produced the game of the year, and quite possibly the game of the decade if no one else steps up.

I look back on all the boss fights, the waifu romances, finding loot, and all the fun coop, the post-launch updates, the hilarious memes and trolling, and everything else from this year and I have to say, we are some lucky people to be able to enjoy this videogame. Always appreciate the little things in life.

Here's to many more happy memories with Baldur's Gate 3, and yes, with /bgg/ as well. Love you barrel of monkeys. Merry Christmas to all Baldur's Gate enjoyers.
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>>507492690
Whatever that means!
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>>507491948
kek

>>507492006
kek

>>507492690
lame

>>507492774
gay
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>>507492869
Merry Christmas, Mintharafag. I still like you, even if you really test my patience when you waste your time (and ours) with autistic back-and-forths spanning days.
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>>507493435
Keep barking up that tree maybe next year you’ll get a pity fuck from him
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>>507492869
I can say with zero irony that it is unfortunate for Christmas Cheer to be visited on those who don't deserve it, like yourself. Fingers crossed that you're hit by a car in the new year, improving this Earth just a smidge.
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>>507493685
I print out the few times the namefag acknowledged me and frame them above my bed.
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Merry Christmas, /bgg/!
May this day be filled with gifts in the form of affection, friendship, joy and serenity.
Waifus, Husbandos
Love & Harmony!

>>507464604
And Merry Christmas to (You) too, Mintharafag.
Tonight, you will be visited by three spirits, who will explain everything to you in detail. But until the day after tomorrow, Merry Christmas and Peace in Faerûn.
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Not an attention-whoring avatarfag, by the way.
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I'm starting to believe you people don't deserve good posts.
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>>507495294
buddy it’s all a stageplay. Now eat some candied yams
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>>507495397
Lohse and Shadowheart, having sex.
Sebille and Gale, having sex.
Ifan and Lae'zel, having sex.
Beast and Karlach, having sex.
Fane and Astarion, having sex.
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>>507495397
Im glad its canon that Minthara is ugly
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>>507495294
What are we drinking tonight?
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>>507495945
Gini lemon tonight, egg nog tomorrow
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>>507495945
Goofy Green Apple Wine with some edible glitter in it that way when you swirl it around in the bottle it looks cool
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For Christmas, I will not schizo post for a period no less than one week beginning today. Celebrate the birth of Christ, even in your pagan hindu lands. Merry Christmas.
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is it true the voice cast bullies wylls actor?
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>>507495945
I had some red wine and prosecco and whiskey
never mix, fellas

>>507496637
Based?

>>507496670
It doesn't seem like it, Theo seems like a decent lad
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>>507496670
They were never in the same room
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>>507495945
A bottle of champagne my parents had saved for their wedding anniversary. It's alright.
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>>507496854
you shouldn't drink that, it's for your mom and dad
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>>507495945
no drugs
alchol
no cigarettes
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I feel like meenlocks aren't actually disadvantaged by light.
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>Healing Word
>lv4
>+8
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anyone here listen to talk tuah while playing?
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>>507499927
no just hitler speeches
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I play one handed
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>comfy holiday
>comfy bed
>comfy gaming
>comfy baldur's gate exploration
It don't get much better than this.

I saw someone mention the crazy warlock character, I'll play her next.
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>>507500352
you're so fat you play laying down? Amazing!
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Was the Rite of Thorns really impassable? It just looks like a bunch of vines if you let it happen, couldn't the goblins just burn it?
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>>507500728
it's MAGICAL vines
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>>507500352
if you just want to chill in the game, when is the best time to do it? after doing every act 3 side quest and before confronting oren?
really pissed there's still no post-game free roam around the city. maybe mods will fix it
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>>507500352
>exploration
huh
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>>507500886
what would you even do post game? also wouldn't bg be in ruins?
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How do I take advantage of a meenlock's light sensitivity? I feel like Dancing Lights isn't doing it.
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Mo2 support is out
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/14407
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>>507502418
Daylight
or radiant status, that lathander mace is op in act 2
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>>507502418
radiating orb
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>>507503036
>>507503071
I feel stupid not remembering the Blood of Lathander, thank you.
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>>507503714
No problem!
Merry Christmas anon!
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>>507503872
Merry Christmas.
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The most kino ending in the game.
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>>507504606
for incels and edgelords maybe
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Is it just me or does ranger feel way weaker than all the other martial classes?
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>>507506163
It is the worst class
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>>507506447
Beast master is OP you can get two summons.
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>>507490938
Hello. I just wanted to say that I love my wife.
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>>507507074
I love the frog and minthara too
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>>507507074
He shouldnt be allowed near women
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found it
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I laughed when she killed everyone
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>>507504606
It's edgy, but failed to capture the feels of eclipse. It's the end goal and not a means to an end.
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BCB or SBBF for female bodies? I like big boobs
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>>507492006
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Never forget Gortash's Christmas gift (its rape)
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Merry Christmas, /bgg/.
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>>507516841
oy vey, I celebrate Hanukah
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Bane and Bhaal seem leagues worse than Myrkul
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>>507517749
As long as Bane's in control, I don't think it would be that bad. But the process of him taking control is brutal and quite evil.
But Bhaal is just retarded evil, there's no good qualities at all.

>>507490938
That anon's Christmas Shart was a very soulful OP, and I hope we get more like it.
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>looking for one more fight to spend resources on before I long rest
>decide to slap around Minthara and her goblins, they’re not too bad
>remember to knock her out in case I want to recruit her later
>realize I can’t long rest before Dror Razglin or she’ll wake up
Wasn’t planning on doing Dror with no spell slots but that’s what scrolls are for I guess.
What does happen to Minthara if you long rest, she just wakes up and goes back to standing in her usual spot?
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>>507504606
>let's copy the eclipse's iconography without going nut nut on the pathos
all dick and no balls
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merry christmas and yuletide bgg!
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bgg = blackgender general
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>>507522946
Fucking a big booty black tav
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>>507523084
install bcb bro
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Manthara is more Black-coded than Wyll
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Who is wyll meant to appeal to?
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>>507523845
the jewish WOTC investors who allowed larian to buy a license to make a DND game if they fulfill a BIPOC & LGBT quota, hence all the gay gnomes in act 3 and that one tranny in shadowheart's story
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Beheading Shadowheart and playing in the blood-stained snow!
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It's been discussed a million times here in the general; it's not about the complexity of Shadowheart or human's sexuality (tho of course someone from the US in 2024 would argue for those, no offense:). It's about pattern recognition, noticing the blatant fan services (or self service in the writer's case) throughout act 3 and the obvious inconsistencies of her character. Thus it's a fix, every fix can come off as 'superiority', when they aren't done by the creators themselves.
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>>507500352
>crazy warlock character
I remember her.
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>>507507074
None of them murdered a child.
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>>507526048
Their only flaw
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>>507524024
damn that's craaaaaaaazy
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>>507529164
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I wonder what's Sven's next game
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Reminder that Ao loves earth and doesn’t care about Faerun
That’s why he sent his only begotten son to us
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I just bought bg3. Should I wait for the new patch or I can start playing right now? Tbh I don't know anything about the new subclasses.
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>>507523084
>Jeorna, that one bitch druid in the grove has this face
>She's marked as a wood elf
Larian fucked up.
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>>507533141
The new patch isn’t dropping anytime soon and you can always respec when it does. Just start now.
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>>507533141
start now do your second run on the new patch
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>>507533141
Open hand monk is in the game already, so you don't really need any other specs.
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>>507533713
Think you mean four elements monk.
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What's the new patch adding again?
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>>507534224
https://baldursgate3.game/news/community-update-30-photo-mode-cross-play-and-new-subclasses-arriving-next-year_128
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>>507533141
it's fine to go for a playthrough but make sure to not download any mod from nexus before the update, you'll have to redownload all of them once patch 8 is out
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https://youtu.be/h_L4Rixya64?si=sdOnVcC9JPmpsnCJ
I got another confession to make..I'm a troon
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>Always dismissed Call Lightning because It looked like a shit spell being level 3 and only doing 3d10, basically an expensive cantrip
>Add water to the mix
>Add a Haste Potion
>Now it's 12d10 per turn and AoE
>Every upcast adds 4d10 to the calculation
I stopped doing anything else. It helps that a caster Druid has literally nothing else going on for damage, of course
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>>507537135
>Add water to the mix
You did not beat the game.
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like...gay for pay?
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>>507537515
Gay for not getting BONED again.
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>minthara to lae'zel
versus
>minthara to shadowheart
me too actually fr fr
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>>507533381
>>507533558
>>507533713
>>507534497
Thank you.
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>just about to finish act1 on second playthrough on tactician
>was an absolute mess till level 5 but now things are getting easy
>rerolling into honor mode
What would give me an edge at start? I want to change into fighter at around level 5 but even on tactician I was getting fucked in the ass at the start with few wipes.
Yay or nay for the beard?
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>>507545072
Open hand monk or moon druid.
Use Wyll, Lae, and Shart.
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>>507545072
use multi companion limit mods
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If you play as
>Tieflings
>Githyanki
>Dwarves
>Half-orcs
>Elves
>Drow
>Half-elves
>Gnomes
>Halflings
>Wizards
>Barbarians
>Druids
>Bards
>Clerics
You are playing the game wrong and your save should be auto-deleted by Larian
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>>507546942
phew I'm safe
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>>507548618
Prove it.
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>>507546942
Back off surface scum, this is a drow board
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>>507546942
I play a kind-hearted Drow Paladin of Lolth on a mission of cultural exchange with the surface
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>>507549938
nah I'm phone posting right now
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>>507546942
larian wants you to play as a dragonborn and have sweaty gay sex with gale though you clearly picked the wrong game to show off your shitty tastes
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>>507550652
>>507550971
>>507551184
Shut the fuck up to dumb niggers. Enjoy your faggot Drizzt books over at CRPGG
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>>507546942
I play Human and exclusively romance half-humans.
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>>507551630
That’s fine and acceptable. Just know your children have no rights and will be sterilized.
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Ah, Christmas with my wife.

>>507545072
Fighter is good early because they have con save proficiency and the best hit dice at the stage of the game hit dice matter. Them and Paladin are probably the best at just surviving the early game if that's your goal.

For a fighter Ander's sword you get from the toll house stays good for a long time and you can get it pretty early. The active on it is good because fighters don't really concentrate on many things typically anyway. I usually use that thing until you find a +2 greatsword. The one you get from corsair greymon is also good, and the sussar bark greatsword is the third good one in act 1/2.

Winning combat has less to do with class choice and more to do with just making sure you're at the right level for that section, and making sure your character is built right. Your stat distribution is correct for what you want to do, you have been updating your gear with stuff you find, etc. A party of any class distribution can beat the game, but a party of people with the wrong stats or the wrong gear or who are underleveled would have trouble.

So my advice is less about classes, and more about xp. I would bet money that almost every single person who says they're getting killed a lot is just doing things in an order that brings them to an area that they are underleveled for, except for the cases of the people who are trying to cast spells with Str and swing a sword with Int of course. There are certain xp thresholds for each section of the game. The real tip for always having an easy time is to vacuum up all the xp you can find, and always be a level above whatever enemies you're facing. The game generally lets you do this, including bosses. Completionism is rewarded.
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>>507546942
I play Human and exclusively romance High Elves
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>>507551373
Who?
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>[Oath of Devotion] *Recite the words of your Oath.*
>Honesty. Don't lie or cheat. Let your word be your promise.
>Courage. Never fear to act, though caution is wise.
>Compassion. Aid others, protect the weak, and punish those who threaten them. Show mercy to your foes, but temper it with wisdom.
>Honor. Treat others with fairness, and let your honorable deeds be an example to them. Do as much good as possible while causing the least amount of harm.
>Duty. Be responsible for your actions and their consequences, protect those entrusted to your care, and obey those who have just authority over you.
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>>507551885
See >>507551787
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>>507552353
No one asked for your worthless input, pal
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>>507552505
You did
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Here's your Dark Urge for today
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>>507552543
Nu uh.
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Finished my durge run yesterday loved it every moment. Had Jaheira kneel in front of Sarevok
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>>507551630
>>507551885
>>507552259
Thank you for choosing beauty in a world where, all too often, there are those that shy away from it. Merry Christmas.

>>507545072
Go be ugly elsewhere.
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>>507555976
The Four guide your path.
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>>507556184
Lathander doesn't have knowledge domain, non canon run detected
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>>507556619
He wouldn't allow evil-doers as his worshippers either
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>>507556771
>this is supposedly evil
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I shouldn't have eaten the whole thing
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>>507556993
Yeah, women are evil.
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>>507558217
The ends justify the means.
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>>507558626
That's what a despot would say. A righteous man follows his Oath and does not stray from the path.
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Merry christmas I’ll argue with you all tommorow
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which bg3 character would you invite to your christmas party?
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>>507521064
Tried summoning Lump to make the fight closer but he yet again left after a couple of rounds
Was doing fine until Razglin went insane and killed three party members in one round, and managed to kill the last one with a javelin as I was running back to Withers
What class should I roll for my next honor run?
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>>507558916
This one serves the righteous.
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>>507559619
Ninja monk
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>>507560051
boring class for redditrannies
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>>507560549
Fits the people here exact then
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>>507559563
Karl
Mizora
Alfira
Mol
Haarlep
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seXnImnUrvo
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>>507545072
Best advice I can give to anyone playing a STR character is to buy a fuckton of Hill Giant Strenght Elixirs at Auntie Ethel's at every long rest and respec to have 8 STR when you do that. This is mostly for Tavern Brawler Monks and Paladins (because they're both MAD and doing this allows you to pump up every other relevant stat), but every STRfag can benefit from it, even just for not having to spend an ASI on +2 STR. Upgrade to Cloud Giant's in act 3.
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>>507546942
You stopped using AI sloppa because you got called Indian laughing my ass off
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>>507563936
This is shit retarded advice
Why are you playing like it's Pathfinder or something lmao
it's a retard-friendly easy game on Tactician (and the only real difference between Tactician and Honour mode is a bit more autism and meta knowledge)
There is no need at ALL to do the kind of "strats" you're talking about holy shit
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>>507561005
...Why?
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>>507564241
oh I didn't even read what you were responding to

>>507545072
lol, lmao
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>>507564241
I mod the game to be harder so I'm slightly more autistic about it, also I don't understand why people act like consumables are some forbidden thing, they're in the game, use them, you don't even have to force it with respec, she sells 3 every long rest, you can get enough for the entire game just by playing normally.
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>>507561005
Kylo Ren guy
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>>507564603
and how would my character know that?
why would the party agree to spending the money that way?
I swear, dopamine-fried zoomer rats have ruined RPGs.
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>>507559563
Christmas is at the cottage Shadowheart and I share. Her parents come over of course, living in the guest house I had built for them, far enough way for privacy and living, close enough that she'll never be apart from her family again. Yenna is there since we adopted her. We exchange Lolthmas gifts. Gale arrives, our best friend, with gifts of his own, and some choice wines from Waterdeep. Lae'zel, Wyll, and Karlach are hard to get in touch with, warring in the astral plane or avernus, but we wonder what they might be doing and hope they might be safe. A pleasant card and gift was sent to Jaheira's home. Minthara is dead of course. Minsc is probably with Jaheira and her family in the city, though I didn't really know him that well and thought he was kind of strange. Halsin is nearby in Reithwen, rebuilding, and we have some items sent to him for his orphans. We generally try to avoid contact with Astarion obviously, he's not the same after he ascended. But all in all a very comfy holiday, hoping for many more.
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>>507564603
STR elixirs fall in this gray area where they feel somewhat cheesy and abusable, in the sense that they enable MAD classes, like you said. I think they're still acceptable, because there's still an opportunity cost attached; just don't unnaturally long rest just to reset Ethel's inventory, that's cheap.
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>>507565427
Halsin's dead
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>>507565584
No he's making Shadowheart's favorite goodberry pie today.
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>>507565127
>And how would my character know that?
Because they check merchant's wares to see if there's anything useful for their quest to get some vermicide and kill the Absolute. She's an alchemist, it's perfectly normal to restock from her every now and then
>Why would my party agree to spend money that way?
Why wouldn't they? Why is buying an Elixir different than buying a new sword for the Fighter, a bow for the Ranger or a scroll for the Wizard? They know how effettive they are in battle, it would be foolish to not grasp at any advantage to aid them in their quest.
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You're going to spend Christmas doing this again?
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Hummmmm goodberries
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Gifting Astarion presents!
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Promising Astarion that we'll deal with his little Cazador issue (so annoying) eventually, but the Netherbrain has to come first.
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>>507565960
*taps the sign*>>507558986
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>>507567042
The cute Frog who saved Christmas.
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i'm... dreaming... of a white, Christmas
Just like the ones I used to know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ36gbGlm8Y
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Been having the itch to get back into Balls Hurt Gay, but I heard that Patch 8 is just around the corner along with every class getting their own subclasses.

You guys think I should play a full-game campaign now or wait?
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>>507568160
grinch looking ass
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>>507564005
If you play as
>Tieflings
>Githyanki
>Dwarves
>Half-orcs
>Elves
>Drow
>Half-elves
>Gnomes
>Halflings
>Wizards
>Barbarians
>Druids
>Bards
>Clerics
You are playing the game wrong and your save should be auto-deleted by Larian
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>Shart laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding
>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up
>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good"

>"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!
>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"
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>>507564241
Based and correct-pilled
This game is piss easy even on HM, every single class and subclass is viable
Most groups use three buffs per long rest, all of which are AoE
The BG3 players mind would explode at Pathfinder minmaxxing
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>>507567734
you dream of black
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On Christmas day. All I can do is pity the obsessed cuck fetishist. Life has been cruel to him.
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>>507568601
This is the best scene ingame
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>>507568810
>every single class and subclass is viable
Except Spore Druid
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>>507569183
Her name is dwarfsis and she's a qween
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>>507569183
Pity is wasted on the Gribbo schizo. Watch it brag about being the "most influential" shitposter next.
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Using finesse weapons exclusively and going all in on Dex is based and redpilled.
>Paladin with Phalar Aluve
>Fighter with Dancing Breeze
>Rogues and daggers/shortswords/rapiers
>Monks and anything
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>>507569568
Miserable existence
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The pain and intensity and jealousy still hit me like the first time I found out about her hidden passions for him.

Over time my anger and frustration have ... turned to something else
I... I want him to do it
the betrayal that stabbed like a dagger now pulses in my chest, catching my breath and making my heart beat like a drum as I admit it
Yes... Halsin...
Take Shadowheart as yours. Caress her body with your hands and mouth.
Enter her and bring her the pleasure I cannot.
... Please ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA790bGpxaY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt3qYHhyc6M
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>>507490938
Shart <3
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>>507569396
But I like shrooms
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>>507570640
I don't even help Shadowheart escape the nautiloid anymore
I stand and watch her pound on the pod, and I say outloud "You know what you did." Then I turn and leave.
Halsin? Dies in the goblin cages. And then I restart. I have done this around 30 times now.

I will never forget what you took from me Halsin.
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>>507570509
I want to make a good dex based Paladin sword if I can figure out how to get new models into the game
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>>507572067
Phalar Aluve already exists and is amazing
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>>507572230
>phalur
>not Larethion’s Wrath for AoE smite
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>>507572230
It just looks like all the other swords though, it doesn't seem like a dex sword. I want something not quite a rapier, but with a smaller grip and more slender blade at least, something like Dark Sister but not that decorated. Plus Phalar Aluve feels thematically tied to an Eilistraee character, it doesn't fit well.
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>honor mode
>at toll house
>speak with the human mage
>I remember you can trade with
>see "supplies something something" in dialog
>its a declaration of war
>3 chars down only 1 make it out
fuck me, -600g
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lol, lmao even said durge
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>>507575428
Redeemed durge is objectively the best protag in the game.
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>>507575574
tav is a blank preset and none of the companions feel like MCs, it was bound to be Durge's game
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>>507575574
I kept hearing this repeated, but I tried it and it was kind of lame. I think the people talking about how Durge gets extra content haven't played anything else, because the 'extra' is like five lines that are otherwise delivered via note or narration anyways, and you lose just as much. You're better off playing as Wyll or Gale if you want an origin run.
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>>507576810
lol what
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>>507576810
literally the other way around, dark urge has literally hours of extra dialogues and reactions and it's the origin with the biggest amount of unique endings
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>>507576810
>extra five lines
>when its closer to 25 minutes for the first act
why lie on the internet
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Infernal Rapier is the true Paladin sword, shame you have to use Wyll to get it
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> You're better off playing as Wyll or Gale
lmao
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>>507576884
You get a few lines from Gortash that don't really mean anything and amount to "hey, we knew each other", one line from Helsik that's the same, and you can challenge Orin solo which you can do anyways. The entire thing with the original plan being Gortash and Durge is given away to everyone else, it isn't unique. The "unique" endings are nonsensical, a brief cutscene of walking around a red screen, or a brief cutscene of Withers saying nothing of note. The whole thing is a wet fart that has been exaggerated way out of proportion. Durge is the Minthara of origin runs.
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y’all look what I found under my christmas tree I can’t believe it
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>another 25 minutes of extra durge content in act 2
why lie on the internet on christmas day?
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>>507577114
The majority of these aren't actually unique, that's what I mean when I say Durge fanfic players here haven't really played any other way or actually paid attention. They also do this weird thing where there's two versions of a scene, the Tav version and the barely altered Durge version, and they'll act like the Durge version is some sort of unique exclusive content because Tav doesn't get it, yet the Tav version that Durge doesn't get doesn't count for some reason. Hot topic types just really want to push it as the 'real' playthrough when it's more of an extra thing, like a what-if run. It plays like a barely remixed version of the real game.
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>>507577289
>straight for pay
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>>507577371
it's probably swen's alt who has to justify wasting millions of dollars & months of dev time on companion origins that no one plays
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>>507577180
>Infernal Rapier
It fucking sucks though
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>>507577371
Not really "durge" content either. Instead of a note about whats her name experimenting on Durge, you get a fart in the wind cutscene with the same information, is that supposed to be unique content? Not really. The whole thing is a big circle jerk for people that want their Shadowsteel the Hedgehog character to be canon instead of a weird also ran. Nobody really plays it which is why Durge anons have been able to claim it has all this extra shit for so long, but when you actually play it after having done a few Tav runs you see how thin it really is.
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I'm not playing as wyll fuck off
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>>507577776
You wyll.
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>>507575574
Honestly, i think it's stupid due to Durge not being inherently special / necessary to the plot, so the game has to just play along with companions being "fine" that their leader has murderous tendencies that they cannot control.
Like seriously, imagine you'd wake up one day and find that some Bard was slaughtered by one of your companions without them having any conscious knowledge of it happening?
And that one holds the artifact from becoming mind controlled by this hivemind?
Wouldn't at least someone go
>yeah, maybe someone else should hold the artifact for the time being?

Tav as a blankslate at the very least has the excuse they're neutral and doesn't have the baggage that every other companion has, but Durge straight up takes the cake on this front.
For example, there's a good chance that the Emperor should know who Durge is, so The Emperor basically "chooses" you as the macguffin holder despite previously having every intention to take control of the Netherbrain to kill literally everyone.
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The very first blast of Halsin's seed into Shadowheart while you are asleep or leave them at camp, permanently changes her "scent."
This is a druid thing, he essentially completely marks her as his. Even though he allows you to be with her, the scent transformation is always there to remind both of you about his ownership of her.
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I don't like durge because I can't roleplay my own character plus murderhobos are cringe.
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>>507582417
finally a quality post
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>"Sh.. Shadowheart? Shaddy?"
>She sighs a little, polite but annoyed by the interruption, "Yes, Tav, what is it? You know it takes longer with interruptions"
>"Wh-why do you .. um... taste like Goodberry...?"
>"Erm, new soap I suppose now please get back to work"
>she goes back to obviously casting a Sending spell to someone while you continue to serve her
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>>507490938
Tactician is so fucking hard. Why do people say it's easy? I can't spam CC spells because of concentration. And the enemy spells are absolutely raping me. My martials got hit by an ice spell once and they spent the entire battle prone while the enemies picked them off, anyone who tried to save them was rendered prone as well. And whenever enemies throw fire at me, it either oneshots my party, or it takes more than half of our health.
And we pretty much always have a 30% chance to miss, even when we're using bless.
And enemies always outnumber us 10 to 1 (the goblin camp, the knolls, the bandits in the crypt etc.), which makes it feel like the enemies get way more attacks per a turn
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regarding the recent post by my retard '132

Lmao. Maybe go play games where you touch colorful objects on your phone.
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Probably not going to happen but it would be cool if some enemies in the game got updated with the new subclasses, like for example a shar cleric uses death domain spells or a githyanki monk uses new drunken master abilities
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>>507586746
Fun fact, some of these subclasses were already in the game on a handful of special enemies.
>>490340512
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>>507587819
>minthara, paladin of oath to truth dropping truth nukes
based
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>>507586746
They might. During early access as other classes were added NPCs would sometimes change class. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same happen here, though for the most part I'm not sure they really fit any established character. There aren't a lot of drunken monks.
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>>507588076
kys
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is there something wrong with being a scrawny nerd in real life but playing huge barbarians in DnD?
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>he walkest alone
lmao
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>>507592669
Yes, your character should always be a self insert, it's why I only play as attractive women.
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>>507594317
have you seen how shit the romance options are?
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>>507595140
>he didn't get the frog wife
lol, lmao
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>>507586132
>And we pretty much always have a 30% chance to miss, even when we're using bless.
Your entire post reads like bait, but there's nothing wrong with this part, even if it were true. 70% chance to hit means the enemy has reasonable AC - neither too low nor too high. If you wanted to trivialize encounters for your martials, you'd look for sources of Advantage. That 70% chance to hit turns into 91% with Advantage.
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>>507595358
>Your entire post reads like bait,
???
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>>507595436
This part, specifically:
>And whenever enemies throw fire at me, it either oneshots my party, or it takes more than half of our health.
It reads like a child describing something they imagined entirely. >And then, the bad guy threw fire at me, and there was like, a big boom, like a big explosion, and everyone died, or maybe not everyone, but like, half of everyone.
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>>507596352
get a life.
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>>507586132
It can be a bit testing in the beginning, but once you are level 5 almost every challenge evaporates. I personally started scaling the difficulty myself, I play with Honor rules (not actual Honor, I want to screw up sometimes), I do act 1 vanilla, act 2 I double enemies health, act 3 I triple it. Makes for a nice curve, I don't end up killing Ansur in a single turn like I did the first time and I'm allowed to minmax like an animal and go all out with build autism and tactics without feeling like I'm trivializing the game.
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>>507592669
Well, no: that's exactly people created DND, to allow puny twink nerds like us to be the big buff guy: like Gale.
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>>507596808
Anyone with a life wouldn't waste time arguing about hit chances on Christmas Day. That's why it's so quiet today.
>>507596876
>but once you are level 5 almost every challenge evaporates.
Right. Because that's when your Wizard unlocks Fireball, which either one-shots enemies, or at least takes more than half of their health.
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>>507592669
>See roleplaying as an aspect that helps you decide your build, your way of creating the character, and through combat you will begin to better understand not so much how the game works, but the mentality of your character. Roleplaying is not something as demanding as going on stage and playing an actor, it should be more natural, even if in such a large game, FOMO is around the corner.
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>>507598042
I have eaten such a total amount of pork in various forms today, that for a Muslim I am haram by osmosis.
Merry Christmas, Whiner kun. <3
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The worthless pig fuck cannot stop being an attention whore, even today.
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>>507599127
It's a Christmas truce, my friend. Let's enjoy these moments of peace.

https://youtu.be/-cSrqRdlFeo
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MERRY FROGMAS EVERYWAN
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The truth is I'm not merry at all today
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>>507599889
I'm sorry to hear that, fren
Is there anything we can do? If you want just to vent, we can do that
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>>507599889
let me offer a frog in these trying times
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Tav has a rumbly tummy from all that "goodberry pie" but just can't stop.
As soon as Daddy Halsin pumps a new batch into Shadowheart, Tav is in place ready to slurp it up like a greedy little beast. It goes on like this for all the night and into the morning.
Finally Tav retches, it's just been too much druidic seed... yet still, the feeding frenzy continues.
>hrmrmmmnfhrhgrlrlgm mmm yum good yes yes good berry mmmgrllrlkfrjm
Halsin and Shadowheart look both disgusted and highly amused. "Nature's bounty" he says to her and she laughs, shaking her head and looking away.
Slowly over time, Tav becomes conditioned and addicted to slurping up the Goodberry Pie, which is good because Halsin and Shadowheart keep making more of it, and Tav's new role in their relationship pleases the two of them.
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I am angry. ANGRY ABOUT ELVES.
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All I want for Christmas is the upper city and wyll's writer neutered
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>>507600235
Are your parents proud of you?
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I hate living in a society where the discourse around the object is more important than the object itself. BG3 gave me hundreds of hours of fun, joy, sadness, everything I could ask from a game, and more. It will always have a special place in my heart, like many other great games I've played. BG3 was lightning in a bottle, they've been working on it for many years, and it's the work of love of many people. It's the Lord of the Rings movies of video games... for now.
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Oak Father preserve us
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>You find yourself in a black, inky, void
>“Anonymous” a voice behind you says
>It’s a serious looking man in a dark suit
>”You have been chosen for something greater.”
>He holds a revolver out to you, forcing you to take it
>When you next wake the burden will fall on your shoulders
>Everything fades to black
>There’s a flash of memories that run through your mind of you being tadpoled by illithids
>You awaken on the nautiloid
Well /bgg/?
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>>507605673
I'll rush to the goblin camp and shoot Minthara
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>>507605673
I'll rush to Shadowheart's pod and shoot Shadowheart
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>>507605673
>Well /bgg/?
set out to fix the worst Sharran into a mediocre Selunite.
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Shartofart is quite mad at me. But me? I'm just sitting here Bhaalin'. I love being a Bhaaler.
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>>507605673
I'd do some side quests then coom in Lae'zel
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Back for a Durge playthrough rape me Minthara
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How many die today? How many die tomorrow?
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>>507608326
Not enough. Then all of them.
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>>507608174
Revolting
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>>507585731
Should I hug her here ?
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>>507611054
no
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>>507611442
Why not ?
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>>507611054
What is that gay ass hair you have
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Agreed to let Ethel take my eye, said she needed her real nails, screen went black, then she was dead on the floor. wtf?
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DEX Oathbreaker Pallock >>>
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>>507612182
you haven't asserted dominance over her yet
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High Elf Love
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>>507615220
It this his character that was cucked by big H
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>>507611054
Yes. Hug her head off.
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>>507615263
The big H you say?
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>>507615220
2 beautiful high elf maidens
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>>507615687
>another mintharafag who hates halsin
why is your screenshot so dark
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>>507612480
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=949372

bug with transformation cutscenes
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>>507615887
She's half-human, anon.
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>>507616486
I actually adjusted the gamma and brightness sliders correctly.
>>another mintharafag
Nope. I just hate gay bears.
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>>507616657
She should grow her ears then.
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>>507616657
Mod her ugly mug already.
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>>507617478
>Mod her
Yes
>ugly mug already.
no
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>>507617661
>he thinks an ugly germanic manjaw face isn't ugly
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>>507617661
For what it's worth, I think she's cute. A solid 7.
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>>507577613
>can completely ignore STR/DEX
>somehow sucks
explain
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>>507617871
And that is why he’s been posting here todat
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>>507618265
Do you have a stroke?
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>>507617871
porn has destroyed your mind
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>>507618432
>porn
You mean all those videos with women who are mostly as ugly?
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>>507612194
Roleplaying as Louis XVI, but blonde
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>>507619385
Wish I looked and stood like this
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>>507618389
Nope.
You enjoy your holiday on /vg/?
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What's a good first feat for archer ranger? Should I just pump my dex to 19?
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Damn? This general is still going? wew.

Any ways, thinking about starting a new campaign before I'm shipped off to work. But I gotta download Patch 7 with my retardedly slow internet speed. But still...Another gnome run? I miss her a lot tbdesu. Think about her often...

Truthfully, I think I mostly just miss the musical ambience. God bless Boris.
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>>507622925
Sharpshooter is insane if you have enough to-hit bonuses or advantage
Worth it as a first feet if you’re careful about height & hiding
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>>507615010
>>507615220
Heh.
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>after decades of struggle, toil and pain in devotion to Lathander, you finally become elevated to status of Dawnmaster
What do you choose as your new Dawnmaster name?
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>>507626707
probably a coincidence
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>>507627529
S N E E D
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>>507615220
>the whore is staring me again isn't she
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>>507625923
It's called a reference, anon. The canon they went with is that you killed Faldorn in BG2. And if you didn't, well, she was still human after all. They're pathetic, short-lived creatures.
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>>507627860
It's just deleted content, you were obviously meant to encounter Aelis in the city, same as Ethel's coven.
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>>507627949
Can't really imagine any relevance the Shadow Druids would have had in Baldur's Gate. Remember, they were just glorified mooks whose leaders were convinced to ally with Ketheric and the Absolute rather than be crushed. This wouldn't have happened if "Archdruid" Aelis had been level 10 (one level lower than Ketheric) and able to stand her ground. I just interpret the letter as further manipulating Kagha, while the Shadow Druids were already compromised. It's just a bit of worldbuilding that people interpret as cut content whenever a named character doesn't appear.
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>>507624603
You Should probably just wait until patch 8 because they are going to add 12 more subclasses.
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>>507630101
Well when is that going to be? I just kinda wanna get immersed into the world again, not a particularly serious playthrough. My new job will have me away on a 28/14 rotation schedule, so I'll only have 2 weeks at a time to play.
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>>507546942
It's okay, I'm playing an Enchantress Wizard right now with 14 Charisma that has Hypnotic Gaze and 10 different Enchanting spells that affect dialogue turning some of them into advantage rolls! I'm running on MC syndrome mode. My companions are under my spell.
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>>507630225
>Well when is that going to be?
2 more months, give or take.
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How many tadpoles do I have to consume before something bad happens?
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>>507630375
1
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>>507630348
Well I guess I can wait until then for a genuine playthrough again, but fuck it, for now I just wanna fuck around. Gonna download the patch overnight and let's gooooooo
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>>507630375
It's already too late for you, abomination.
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>>507630375
>Allowing foreign objects into your body willingly.
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>>507630307
cute frog
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>>507630375
why are you ghaik
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I'm starting to think Warlock is the worst class.
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I feel dumb that it took me 4 levels to realize playing beastmaster ranger I can summon 2 ravens to just perma blind an enemy and make them useless
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People tend to focus on her dreams of halsin, but I have to say that the leg work hip work line is pretty fucking cringe too
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did you guys have a good Kwanzaa./bgg/?
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>>507634203
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>>507622925
Sharpshooter
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>>507634203
cute frog
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i really have to pay to renew my oath respec and then break my oath again why the fuck
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>>507616657
Nibbling on Shadowcute's ears
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>>507615220
Made for human parties
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>>507651257
>obese whale pretends to find a bag of pixels attractive to get upvoterinos
ain't no way :skull:
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The poison cloud vents at the House of Healing morgue, do I just toss stained towels on 'em? I don't see a lever.
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>>507652301
blud finds generic faces larian spent 5 min on the most attractive thing ever :skull
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>literally have to tell Shadowheart and Lae'zel you're not interested in order to romance Minthara
This game is hard.
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>>507652706
use the poly mod
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>>507653490
shut up
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>>507653523
why so hostile?
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>>507653490
I don't use mods. I'll faithfully wait for Larian's space game to have it built in.
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>>507653490
Kill yourself.
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>>507653940
>laughs in shadowheart, laezal, karlach, and minthara all licking my cock
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>>507653848
laezel knows what a mastiff is but has no idea what the fuck is a cat
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>>507654368
I too love making 3/4 of those characters do insanely out of character things for the sake of pleasing my cock.
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>>507654368
all you're getting is all of their romances in the same playthrough, not at the same time
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>>507654419
lol
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>>507654490
>out of character
Me not using mods trumps this, but yes, if I were to use mods, this would be the next wall.
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There is literally zero in character justification for leaving minthara alive but not the other generals, unless you play the evil route. Also she’s
>ugly
>sounds like a man
>boring
If you seriously just hate Halsin being dreamed about by Shart then let him die/kill him in the goblin camp (oh shit I thought he was a rampaging bear!), or romance Laeze/Karlach. Or even better don’t romance anyone and jack off before you play the game.
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>>507653848
>>507654419
cute frog
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>>507655083
>fantasy game
>all you can bang are elves, humans & wyll
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Someone post Lae'zel looking like a frog (actual)
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>>507654490
it's called being based
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>>507651257
>cute post about a cute human character
>immediate seething from the local hater
Some "people" are truly afraid of beauty. That random redditor has good taste, by the way.
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The Summon Woodland Being Dryad is fucking broken. How is this comparable to the worthless minor elemental, also a 4th level spell? Shit, it's even better than the 5th level Elemental.
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>get game
>can only get spells back from resting
>never do any spells on any encounters just in case theres a boss or something ahead
i hate this system it sucks give me mana or something
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>>507657910
You find and absurd amount of food, feel free to shoot as much as you want, by the end of act 1 you will have enough food to last you 3 entire runs. Also story and events progress when you rest, so you should do it regardless (even partial rest work for this purpose)
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>>507615220
What is she like?
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>>507655182
Are you not counting Karlach and Mizora? Or do you mean those two count as elves?

Do you want the roleplaying option to fuck sheep or something?
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>>507659138
And frog too!
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>>507659138
I want the roleplaying option to romance 80% of the races that aren't represented in the romance pool, where are the gnomes, dwarves & orcs? who asked for 2 druids? why is wyll a warlock and not a thief?
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Fight Marcus before or after rescuing the prisoners?
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>>507655182
duumb fuck
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>>507659961
after, you won't be able to save them after the fight and get Bex's cookie
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>>507660201
he's right though
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>>507659635
retard
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>>507660315
first of all wyll is a human secondly there's a squid and a bear and a devil to have sex with in this game so go fuuck yourself
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>>507660517
literally none of them have sex scenes, doesn't count
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>>507660887
whatever man
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>>507660212
>you won't be able to save them after the fight
Yes you can, I did this before and it's, I believe, the reason Halsin and Barcus are bugged in my Balanced campaign.
But I believe you're right about the cookie, maybe. I didn't press her about a reward, was just happy to see them happy.
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Action Surge doesn't disrupt invisibility?
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>>507660212
I fight him first every time, and always get Bex's cookie.
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I kinda want some carl jrs today bros
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>>507662430
I want to do this with you, Pea

>>507660887
I wish all the sex scenes were as explicit as Minthara's.
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>>507662739
uuh huh
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>>507662873
I keep my nails trimmed, it'd feel good.
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>>507663095
mhm
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>>507663410
I think you replied to the wrong person.
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>>507659635
>where are my degenerate options?
In Kingmaker and Veilguard. Go be a freak elsewhere.
>>507663539
Thanks for pointing that out.
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>>507663889
Aren't hookers supposed to be hot?
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Who are these rats engaging with the resident spammer?
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>>507663727
>Kingmaker
kys
you can't fuck the gnome
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>>507664250
The girl is hot. The guy is lame though, should have been sisters instead.

>>507664487
Me. I think trannies are hot, and I want Pea to eventually show bussy.
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>>507664616
why'd you do that
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>>507665359
If only it was my precious Kirz wearing the ring instead...
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>>507665359
>LGBT hair
lol
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>>507659635
I love miku
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>>507506163
It's not just you, but you are wrong. Ranger is not weaker than rogue.
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>>507664851
The girl just looks normal. Not ugly by any means, but calling her hot seems like an exaggeration.
I don't know if the guy is hot because I'm not gay and therefore not a very good judge of male hotness, but I can't take him seriously because of his resting Zoolander face.
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Is there anything underdark/drow related in act 3? Are there any other good books other than the Drizzt series, that actually looks at their culture in practice?
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>>507670975
Drizzt sucks and so do his books.
All drow eat shit
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>>507671684
Thanks anon, I am now no longer interested in drow.
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>>507670975
All drow lore is just Ed Greenwood's barely disguised fetish.
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>>507672170
I'm looking for inspiration here anons, and all the pdf readers are gay and want me to do things.
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>>507672170
*All of the forgotten realms lore
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> mod the shit out of the game
> launch trainer with many possibilities enabled
> let the sex framework strike your walkthrough
> collecting bodies of dead bitches like Brynna now have a purpose
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>>507673795
>let the sex framework strike your walkthrough
I know what the sex framework mod is, but what the fuck this mean???
I feel like I'm stroking out reading this
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>>507674434
your fault that you were lazy to learn coomer language
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When the fuck are barbarians gonna get some clothes are aren't fucking fugly?
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>>507669652
B-b-based
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the drow whore should have been a femboy
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>>507670975
Yeah, if you kept him alive then you can talk to Ormeleuum and Blurg again. If you helped her in act 2 then Araj is at her shop in the southern section of the city. And there's professor Limeleech at the society center. She's a funny character.

If you already read all the drizzt/Champions of the hall books, then I liked Starlights and Shadows because it's about the best god in the forgotten realms.
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>>507655083
>>boring
She's hilarious and wants you to become king of the universe. No other companion believes in you to that extent.
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Male or female Durge?
Male or female Tav?
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>>507677887
>necrophilia and incest
Male Durge
>heckin dogooder
Female Tav
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90% to hit
miss
I didnt know i was playing Xcom
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>>507677887
Male durge
Female tav
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>>507678239
Women are incapable of doing good deeds
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>>507679212
>
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>>507679725
Our hero
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>>507490938
>Took me like three attempts to ambush one of the rogues in the first dungeon
I am cooked, aren't I?
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>>507680042
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>>507679725
>broke her oath in the first place
Heh. Women.
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>>507680271
the first levels are the hardest, you'll mow through everything once you reach level 5
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Are there any good class mods to install ? Playing with a few friends new to the game, but I don't want to play what I've played on launch...
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>>507675306
If they developed a sense of fashion they would be civilized.
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>>507682271
the artificer mod is a must
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>>507682271
You played all the vanilla classes at least once?
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>>507672684
Most of the forgotten realms lore is his fetish. Like 90%.
The other 10% is nonsense to explain the magic system changing constantly and why popular lore characters didn't die of old age.
Volo is centuries old, but won't die despite being a human because Mystra turned him into a magic 5G tower with plot armor.
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You know, not advocate for murder or anything, but if Orin the Red were real, I think I'd give her a ride to whatever call center handles Amazon customer support these days.
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>>507676862
Larian was too lazy to make a femboy body type.
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>>507683634
>Yes, Orin. These healthcare CEO's care for people's health. If you kill them, just think of how many people will die as a result. Like a firework of blood, exploding out from each stab!
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>>507682774
Like the one from Nexus Mods or the one from Larian's ?
Is BGMM and BG3 Script Extender and all those things still needed ? I haven't touched this game since it came out.
>>507683158
Nah, probably close to what I think I'd like. My last play through was all Wild Magic sorcs with the funny mod to make it pop off after almost every cast - to tell you how bored I was when I finally put the game down.
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>>507683673
I blame having to animate the gnomes, halflings and dwarves
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>get shadowheart and leazel
>they'll alright
>find vampire guy
>hate him stake him at camp
>find wizard
>he wants artifacts that i dont want to give him
>hate him
>find annoying fucker with one eye
>hate him too
i dont think im filling my entire party unless there's companions i missed
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>>507684893
There's a barbarian still to recruit in act 1.

And you can give the wizard absolute trash that you'll never use, if the artifact eating is the only thing keeping you from liking him.

You can make a full party by hiring hirelings at withers if you don't like anyone.
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>>507684893
Don't kill the drow wife
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>>507684893
Most of the companions are trash
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>>507686337
i'll look for him then i'd prefer a barbarian over a wizard desu
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>>507683634
>kill all the peons that will just be immediately replaced
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>>507683634
Take her to the larian studio in Ghent and tell her to go nuts in the writer room
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>honor mode
It took me 18hrs just to get to the underdark. How fucked am I there?
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>>507690463
I doubt there's an actual writer room. BG3 feels like something written by a dozen different writers who didn't talk or coordinate at all.
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>>507691252
this is literally what happened, a huge chunk of the writing was done during covid
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>>507690527
>How fucked am I there?
if you took that long, you were probably thorough on the first map and are 5 on every character, which is completely fine for the Underdark.
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Why am I leveling up faster than my companions?
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>>507693018
Inspiration.
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Abjuration Wizard is so fucking good lmao.
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>>507693018
You can sync them by dismissing them and making them re-join
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>>507696135
Can't wait for bladesinger.
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>>507657910
I understand, but consider this: many other classes and origin characters are not spellcasters and can deal a decent amount to enemies in each turn; some spells like Witch Bolt can be cast multiple times while only consuming one spell slot; Arcane Recovery can be used. And in general, the more you level up, the more powerful the Wizard becomes with many spells that can be upcast.

It's a difficult class to have at the beginning, especially if you're used to other types of mages in other systems. But absolutely rewarding, I assure you!
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>>507657910

Oh, and I also forgot about the copious amount of Scrolls the game throws at you, and the little "homebrew" variation that allows every character, no matter their class, to use them.

So yeah, going out of spells is not really something you should start worrying about.

Which makes me smile quite a bit because you expect the "V,S,M" aspect of spells (vocal, somatic and material) to have only the verbal one (if you cast 'Silence') while you can use spells while immobile and the material requirements are never considered: apart from the moment when Gale mentions the components needed for 'Continual Flame' in Act 2.

Or does Gale have a magic pouch with all the necessary components without ever mentioning it?
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>>507698021
>>507699239
thanks i'll try to push further was thinking of respecing but i'll do it
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>>507698021
>some spells like Witch Bolt can be cast multiple times while only consuming one spell slot
Please do not recommend Witch Bolt to newbies. It's bad enough that it's part of Gale's default kit.
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>>507699512
Wet nonsense makes it not as awful as it should be. But let's say Call Lightning then.
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>>507699512
>>507700063
What do you mean? Witch bolt can be incredibly useful, especially at low levels before the big bad spells come into play!
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t-t-the wortless pigfuck....
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>>507698021
>sam elliot gale
miss me with that
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>>507701596
Wait, let me try something...

my CRASS STUPIDTY takes JOY and PRIDE in helping other anons who start the game FOR THE FIRST TIME and in discussing aspects of GAMEPLAY despite my repeated CHEAT-PIG TACTICS that WOULD TRIVIALIZE every encounter if I were not able to see ROLEPLAYING not as demanding as going on a stage like and actore, without FEAR of FOMO just around the corner.. I simply find it interesting to see the first steps of OTHER anons in a game that is LIGHTING IN A BOTTLE , thus avoiding PLAGIARIZING aspects of an otherwise more GENTLE NATURE that would not emerge if not advised, when requested.
And I do it without ASKING for anything in return, in fact you could say that I do it PRO BONED.

>>507702969
Gale had a hard time when Mystra sent her ex boyfriend and mentor and bff to tell him to blow himself up.
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>>507703389
based lmao
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>>507701119
You can only target one creature per casting (if you kill the target, the spell just ends rather than letting you move on to another), it requires concentration, and it's only slightly stronger than Fire Bolt, which is a cantrip.
It upcasts terribly (only the initial hit is powered up), and your spell slots are too precious to waste on it before that.
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>>507696135
All Wizards are amazing, Sorcerers faggots are just coping.

Don't often play Wizard, but was interested in playing something out-there that isn't played often and decided on Conjurer based on Nox, and found out that Conjurers eventually gain a class ability where they simply do not lose concentration on any of their conjuration spells. That means you can cast Cloud of Daggers, Cloudkill, Sleet Storm, Call Lightning, and Arcane Gate and you will never lose concentration on it, no matter what.
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>>507703827
>All Wizards are amazin-
Name on now
Don't forget your ugly mid bob with split ends
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>>507703805
>You can only target one creature per casting
can't we twin spell it as sorcerers?
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>>507703827
The perks you get in specific schools of Magic are pretty cool and make each variant of a mage special and interesting compared to others.

I especially like to use mages as "one time", keeping them in the backline and using them for buffing and controlling the battlefield rather than doing direct damage, it's fun!
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>>507704090
Witch Bolt can't be twinned because of what I assume is a bug.
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>>507696135
I only played abjuration once during the beta but one of the kek-inducing shits I remember about the subclass is that Gale fucking tanked the entire fight with the two minotaurs by himself. Constantly casting an abjuration cantrip to rack up wards and the Minotaurs were never doing damage to him, he just lives off his wards.
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>>507703827
wizard subclasses are the most boring uninspired subclasses in bg3 which is an achievement in and of itself since 5e subclasses are known to be boring as fuck
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>>507705113
>>507703827

Abjuration Wizard is best Cleric
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>>507680271
That's the tutorial dungeon, yes.
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Abjuration, Evocation, Divination, and Necromancy are all either strong or fun, but Conjuration feels so bad.
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>>507705853
I think Wizard's subclasses are perfect for what they should be. Wizards are faggots who want to seek power to it's fullest in all manners and places and unlock magic in all of its applications, but there is that one spell that they center on and can cast more effectively.
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Necromancy is neither strong nor fun.
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>>507706531
Enchanter is pretty good and amazing too. At level 6 you can use charm as a reaction for you and all of your companions and the enemy will instead shoot whatever they're shooting at their friends, and at level 10 you can twin ALL of your enchanting spells. Sorcerer faggots need to expend Sorcerer points every time. That means you can cast hold person and hold monster on two fucking people at once.
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>>507706776
wizards are all about gathering knowledge and learning spell and yet all you have to do in dnd is waste a few gold coins to learn spells, and only regular spells mind you, not unique ones, it's lame, the wizard tome is a glorified gimmick in the tabletop and literally nothing in bg3, this game system fucking sucks, I wish all the casters were as customizable as warlocks
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>>507708856
I romanced karlach
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I already have a Paladin (me), what should I reclass Minthara into?
I also have a warlock and a wizard, so preferably neither of those. Spider beastmaster seems fitting
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>>507708856
she is much better if you turn her into monk with mods from nexus
change my mind
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Heyo soulja how ya doin soulja what’s on your mind mate FUCK YEAH SOULJA aw is that Gale’s grandpa soulja omg soulja is that THE JAHEIRA soulja isn’t it great I’m both a shy virginal waifu and a massive turboslut so there’s never any conflict soulja fuck I wanna ride ya til we see the stars soulja touch me soulja touch me soulja never read a book in me life soulja did you have a good relationship with your soulja father soulja me neither soulja
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>>507709989
yeah karlach sucks, personality of a 15 year old. basically a complete braindead slag, behaves exactly as the VA's accent would make you think
luckily we have laezel or our only choice would be poly gothgirl who cucks you or the psychopath only attracted to your power
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>hrmrmmmnfhrhgrlrlgm mmm yum good yes yes good berry mmmgrllrlkfrjm
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>>507710861
>>507710934
>>507709989
kill yourself
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>MUH WIFE-OOS
Literally playing with dolls lmao
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>>507711170
Yup, sounds like me alright
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>>507705113
If you find a way to get Armor of Agathis (either the robe in act 2 or a White Dragon Sorcerer dip) shit gets ridicolous, stuff just dies trying to go trough your scrawny Wizard abs
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don't listen to him Shaddy
you're real to me
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*I charge up an orb of swirling air in my hands and launch it at the anons in front of me. I then use my ride the wind ability to fly over to manthara and Shadowheart and use flurry of blows to beat both to death.
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Guess the obnoxious slop is back on the menu. It is in the attention whore's nature to beg for attention, after all. The worthless pig fuck's pigbabble isn't there to "help" new players - and even it framing it that way is insufferably self-assured.

Here's some fucking slop while it patronizingly explains to you (the stupid new player) that Wizards... cast magical spells... and become more powerful... as they level up... amazing. Aren't you thankful? What insight could a hypocritical lowlife that still needed to cheat in an easy game possibly give you?
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>>507708856
Who's the lucky date?
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>Searching for posts that contain ‘dolls’ and with the image hash ‘9S8ceiFHJPuUiA7tRzagGg==’. 9 results found.
>earliest match: April 2024
Baldur's Gate 3 WARPED you.
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Is it still possible to save Orpheus and have nobody squid out by bringing both frog and gale to endgame and convincing Orpheus to let Gale get his 108 virgins or did they patch that out?
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>played nice elf paladin, so can fix them
>played quite lonely durge
>played drow cleric of lolth, so i can make them worse

Now I would like them to make me worse... what would be ideal race and class for good natured Tav, that gets slowly corrupted by their companions?
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>What? Marcus had wings
is a fucking 10/10 line that makes me laugh every time
>>507712840
Not patched out, not a bug.
You need a good relationship with Gale, such that he'll offer to do it when you're in the Astral Plane. You need to lie to the Emperor enough for him to give you the Super Tadpole, then betray him. Then you need to tell Orpheus that no one's becoming a Mindflayer yet, get to the brain stem, and talk to Gale.
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>>507712964
>what would be ideal race and class for good natured Tav, that gets slowly corrupted by their companions?
Some Human Life Cleric of some moralfag deity that falls for Astarion and then slowly slips into evil to appease Astarion could work.
Especially if you then let him ascend and become his spawn.
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And let's not forget the casual self-referential rape joke. So, not only is the stupid new player lucky enough to receive "help" AND slop, they should be thankful to witness the attention whore's self-parody. It's still funny as fuck how that Astarion thing got under my skin. I wonder if Godey ever boned Astarion? Get it? The joke is rape. The punchline is rape. It's hilarious, right? Heh, finger guns. It gets funnier the more you repeat it. Mintharafag was never this funny.
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>>507713597
>sees casual game discussion
>immediate attempt at derailment
Boy gee you're an excellent poster
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>>507713871
The derailment happened as soon as the worthless pig fuck started vomiting wordslop instead of what should have been a one-sentence reply. But thanks for the genuine compliment. Would you care for another Astarion rape joke? It is so hilarious the pig can't stop repeating it.
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>>507713871
ignore him and report him if it bothers you
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>>507713590
Definitely, anything for Asterion's approval. Also... maybe the cleric could be of Selune, to give Shadowheart opportunity to convert me?
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>>507714239
>report him
He's not breaking any rules. He's just a retard.
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>>507714323
And we all know what happens to those that brazenly break the rules - nothing.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/505602656/#505826270
Why should I care what you think of me?
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>>507714809
Is Spores Druid a good class?
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>>507713871
he spammed all of his pastas during christmas eve, this is legitimately depressing
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Is it possible to get duke ravenguard's equipment any way besides killing him at the coronation?
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>>507715279
Marry into his family
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>>507714310
>to give Shadowheart opportunity to convert me?
Makes sense in theory but in reality, it doesn't work due to Shadowheart being that massively tilted towards the good side.
If she's a staple part of your party, it's you pushing her down the Sharran path, not her corrupting you.
She also disapproves of any impactful evil decision, she's only fine with minor evil stuff.

The only genuinely evil companions are Astarion and Minthara, they constantly approve of evil options, with any other companion that isn't completely good, it's conditional at best.
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>>507715136
So I get to be Mintharafag, the Astarionfag, the Frogfag, the attention-whoring swine I fucking hate, AND the schizo that spams pastas? It's not easy being the most interesting poster of /bgg/. Why are you still here?
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don't talk to me fat fuck, there's a reason you were spamming your garbage, begging for crumbs of attention while most of the gen was celebrating the holidays
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>>507715383
>The only genuinely evil companions are Astarion
Yes.
>and Minthara
No. She did nothing wrong.
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>>507714949
>A generalist subclass in an already generalist class
>in a system/game that rewards specialization
It's, almost very literally, the definition of fine. Except for in Act 2 when everything resists its subclass features.
It would be better if they didn't hand out so many camp supplies that you can long rest at will
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>>507715383
I wish Shadowheart was an actual honest to god cleric of shar and would have tried to convert the companions and the players during our adventure, it was then up to the player to either convince her that her cult is retarded or let her remain a sharran, shadowheart's story was boring imo, none of the twists were interesting and the dillemas were lame and that's without mentioning how boring I find the sharran dogma
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>>507714323
It’s an obvious troll post it happens ad nauseam every single fucking day.
Don’t be shy about telling jannies to do their fucking job or else you’ll end up brain broken by the faggot. Report him and move on.
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>>507715383
Damn, no good corruption then... but you are right, Karlach and Wyll don't have ounce of evilness in them, at least, not their own. Gale is just ambitious. I was hoping Shadowheart would get more mean towards Selunite, but if that's not the option, then I guess I have nobody else than Astarion... and maybe Lae'zel? I know she is not evil, more pragmatic and aggressive, but let's see if she can lead me bit towards the darkness, due to lack of options.

>>507715631
Anon, please, leave me at least Minthara, if literal Drow cannot push me and make me more evil, then who can?
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>>507715580
You’re just as bad. You won’t convince me it was whiner spamming halsin posts.
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>every Spore Druid feature is a Con save
>every remotely dangerous enemy has minimum +5 con save and/or proficiency
You know what the definition of insanity is, anons?
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>>507716751
>I was hoping Shadowheart would get more mean towards Selunite
It's mainly her just being snide / rude towards you rather than actually convincing you that Shar actually has a point.
She herself just recites that stuff because she's been made to believe in them rather than seriously thinking them to be correct.

Even picrel line comes across as banter, she doesn't think one second she could convert you, as that is frankly not in the cards in the game as even if you just let her become the Mother Superior as a Selunite, she at worst uses your body (which also locked behind romancing her no less), not have you convert to being a Sharran.
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bg3 is in the top 12 best selling games of 2024 on steam
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>>507716263
>and would have tried to convert the companions and the players
Sounds stupid. She's on a mission to retrieve the artifact and bring it to Baldur's Gate, not proselytize the first gullible fool (Tav) she encounters, or enter religious debates (whereupon, after 3 consecutive successful WIS checks, her entire faith is upended and she renounces Shar thanks to the power of video game magic). Why are those that don't understand characterization always the most critical of it?
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>>507718046
I find it unfair that there is a balance of races, classes, genders... but for alignments no no, you have to be good protagonist or people won't like you. At least DUrge was fun, but I would love to have a party member like Orin, or more evil Minthara.
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507718624
you sound fat
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Say the catchphrase about smoothies again. These threads are nothing if not repetitive.
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>>507718624
>whereupon, after 3 consecutive successful WIS checks, her entire faith is upended and she renounces Shar thanks to the power of video game magic
But...
This is exactly what currently happens. You don't even need the wisdom checks. It's ABSURDLY easy to turn her from Shar. Like, you almost literally have to never use her in your party for her to kill the Nightsong of her own choice.
They should never have changed EA Shart
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>>507718659
Kahga being the druid companion instead of jaheira and halsin would have solved that, make jaheira a camp follower if you REALLY want to cater to nostalgiafags
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>>507718246
It's also still number 10 on the top 10 most popular games ever on steam, in terms of highest concurrent players. If you filter out free to play games, it's actually number 5.

In terms of concurrent players, it's number 15 at the moment, but if you filter out free to play games and games that can be acquired for less than 5usd, then it's actually shockingly number 3. 12 of the top 15 most popular games are free to play or can be acquired for less than 5 usd, the only full price paid games ahead of in popularity right now are EA's Soccer 2025 and Palworld. Oh PoE2's early access is 30 usd. For Baldur's Gate 3 to still be number 3 or 4 in terms of popularity for paid games is absolutely wild, but wonderful.
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>>507718921
Kagha or Inwe would be nice, but then again John would just turn them into turbo whores.
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Can't even BROWSE when he's with a client.
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>>507718883
It's a combination of things. The way she eventually abandons her faith is the result of you building a bond with her, earning her approval, and the Nightsong's involvement. It's not just the player savescumming the dialogue check 3 times in row so they can change her personality/religion/alignment. There's a difference.
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>>507718921
>another elf companion
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>>507719173
his fetishes are so trash
>>507719223
cute redheads are allowed in my camp
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I’ll protect any squishy bitch casters with my fists of fire.
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>>507719257
Wood elves are apparently more open sexually than their cousins (maybe culturally it's not tabboo or whatever), so he probably took inspiration from there.
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>>507718659
The game is massively tilted towards good narratively.
Hence somehow everyone going along with you, even if you want to control the Brain because they are just willfully ignorant of your intentions and then act surprised.
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>>507719480
that trivia is from a non canon book from the 90s, I don't care about a companion being a manwhore, making it his entire personality is not only hackey but shows how much of a moron you'd have to be find that funny or interesting, just compare minthara's writing to halsin's lol
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>>507719210
Anon, I'm saying that it's literally not that.
I recently did a full evil playthrough. I actively refused to engage Shadowheart in her little "btw there's something you should know about me" conversations.
Through actual ambient relationship growth, never engaging with her or building a bond, she spared the Nightsong. It is genuinely passive. Rescuing her from the pod alone gets you 25% of the way there already.
The ONLY way I could have gotten her to spare the Nightsong was leave her in camp or spam Friends on her.
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>>507719886
10 years old Gale fucked THAT?
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>>507719886
>no chocolate halfling monk companion
I hope you Karlachfags are happy
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>>507720035
>implying that wyll & halsin aren't the wasted companion slots
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>>507720108
Correct, Karlach is
Imagine playing an Origin character whose fate is to die
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>kiss Shadowheart
>taste goodberry
must be a new lip gloss I guess
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>>507720252
>Imagine playing an Origin character
you lost me there
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>>507657910
>playing a gay ass caster
lol
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>people complaining about a game being skewed towards good
You’re now aware most games, like 99%, don’t even have the option for half baked evil playthroughs
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>>507720748
Which CRPGs don't?
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>>507721023
failguard
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>>507720748
and most games are certified goyslop with bottom of the barrel RPG options like Cyberpunk, your point?
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>>507721161
Veilguard isn't a CRPG
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best class for a solo murderhobo?
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>>507721263
OH Monk
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>>507721263
Gloomstalker
And then respec to Rogue, subclass irrelevant
Rogue at level 11 can wipe entire fights without ever entering combat
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>>507721263
Gloomstalker assassin dark urge with the invisibility cloak
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>>507721263
3 rogue+3 gloom+6 champion
durge cape
crit stacking equipment
make sure to take savage attacker and absolutely murder everything
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>>507719736
Minthara isn't that much better desu
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>>507721907
Anon...
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6th level "Summon Fey" spell
Choice is between this and a Super (tm) Redcap
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>>507720748
I am happy that the game allows me to get the ending I want (refuse to call it evil ending, because it turned out pretty good for the Tav). But I would like if there was a reason for my Tav to become like that, other than... the tadpole in my head told me so and clicked on the bad bad option
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>>507719776
I don't think that's the case. The Nightsong point system should still factor to some extent, and if you ignored that, then she should not passively spare the Nightsong. I could be wrong. But that's not the point. I'm not interested in arguing about how it's coded under the hood, or good points, and approval thresholds.

The point is that you have this religious character, almost fanatically so, and therefore her loss of faith needs to be believable. The Nightsong is essential for that. So this idea that you, the almighty player character, can simply convince her after decades of indoctrination that Shar is EVIL - and that she'll believe you on the spot (after a few successful checks) - is not exactly synonymous with good writing to me. It would ironically turn this "boring" character into less of a character, which seems to be the preference of those that want a video game (with failure and success), not a narrative.
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>>507722535
‘She’ looks like Tom Holland
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>>507719886
This and Alfira are the only good replacers out of that mod. God, I wish I was Gale.
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>>507722095
she's not better, halsin is way worse
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>>507722535
She's beautiful, and reminds me of a young Charlotte Rampling (who plays the Reverend Mother in Villeneuve's Dune for you zoomers).
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>>507723558
ew
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>>507722535
She would be prettier if she stayed loyal to Lolth. Shame, I need to kill her for the apostasy. She would do the same.
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Minthara should have looked like this
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>troons mald over minthara because she had a pregnancy arc that was cut
at last i truly see
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>>507722535
she is beautiful
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>>507722858
Sort of.
There is always player contrivance in speech checks.
The one to outright throw away the spear before Nightsong even mentions Wolves is a Persuasion DC30, i think there's only like a handful of those in the game and they always involve massive contrivance.

They are, essentially, a fallback option, in the case of the Nightsong points in particular because those points are hidden and the consequences of failing that check results in either having to kill a companion or destroying Last Light.
>can simply convince her after decades of indoctrination that Shar is EVIL
It is more framed as you sowing enough doubts for her to follow her instincts and throw the spear away, she does not believe at this point that Shar is "evil" but simply acted on instincts to overrule her goddess' command.
Hence her having a crises of faith afterwards, rather instantly believing that Shar is evil, she only does that once Aylin reveals the truth about her family.
Granted, her asking what to do is retarded but that also primarily exists that anyone who has enough Nightsong points can still shank Nightsong if they desire.
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>[companion] should have been [completely different character]
Greetings, comrade! How may I be of assistance, mine own fellow? And ho, might that be the grandsire of our companion Gale? And is it not the renowned High Harper Jaheira whom I spy from the corner of mine eye? But heed not that - is it not suitable that I am both a pure maiden and a mighty lover, with whom you might spar, both on the field and in bed? Oh, how I wish to mount your steed and ride until mine eyes can see naught but stars.
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>>507724261
wyll is a hero and uses a weapon, he has no reason to look as scrawny as gale & astarion, I wish bg3 had more body types, astarion should have been a twink, gale a skinny scrawny bookrat & wyll should have been shredded, minsc looks perfect
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There isn’t a single class even half as cool as this aesthetically
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>>507725207
four elements monk
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>>507725207
>homosexual mating dance
nah im good
the aesthetic kingpin is still
HUMAN
WHITE
MALE
PLATE ARMOR
CLOSED FACE HELMET ON
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>>507724218
>It is more framed as you sowing enough doubts for her to follow her instincts and throw the spear away, she does not believe at this point that Shar is "evil" but simply acted on instincts to overrule her goddess' command.
Yes. We essentially agree. The way it's implemented is preferable to that poorly thought-out suggestion above. You don't "convince" an indoctrinated cultist that their cult is stupid and evil with words, that's not how it works. The narrative needs to sell that doubt, not the player character alone. We should be able to be critical of things we like, but the alternatives suggested here always seem to be worse.
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KINO
Reminder that Minsc is not "chaotic", he is incredibly simple. Evil is evil, and good is good. Evil deserves to get its butt kicked.
Why then, does the Emperor not want to restore Minsc to his rightful self?
I wonder.
I wonder.
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>>507724049
You sound like you’re smoking PCP
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>>507725793
>Evil is evil, and good is good.
How can you tell which is which?
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>>507726276
You like it = good
You don't like it = evil

Simple.
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I was reading all the alignments on easydamus and I kept reading that every single good alignment is opposed to killing unarmed foes as well as torture. This leads me to believe that "good" is just "retarded"
>hmm this guy planted a bomb and he won't reveal the deactivation code? welp guess we just gotta let hundreds of innocents die, we can't lay a finger on this guy
and
>hmm what's this my archenemy? finally, I've been after him for years... oh wait he's unarmed. I better walk on
evil similarly seems retarded, since every evil alignment appears to be sadistic. so it's neutral for me. which neutral alignment is best?
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>>507726485
Neutral Evil
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>>507726276
They are objective forces in D&D. It's not a subjective moral system.
Selfishness, wanton murder, and cruelty are all Evil.
Selflessness, mercy, and kindness are all Good.
Devils = Evil
Devas = Good
>>507726485
Your first scenario assumes some retarded situation in which magic doesn't exist. He won't reveal the code?
>I cast Detect Thoughts.
>I cast Zone of Truth.
>I freeze the bomb in place.
Your second scenario actually has some nuance to it. Yes, if you ran up and just fucking backstabbed some guy you didn't like while he was getting fruit at the market that would not be a Good-aligned option. However, you could openly confront him and declare your intent to fight.
The more important thing to understand is that alignment is Descriptive. If you're playing a Good character, you wouldn't do those things. It's not "I'm playing a Good character, so I CAN'T do those things."
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>>507726485
True Neutral. The hellspawn that invades your home, eats your food, drinks your water, sows mistrust and conflict, and steals your most precious idol should be cast out. Don't you agree?
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>>507726626
why?
>>507727108
>Your first scenario assumes some retarded situation
that's because it's taken from real life, the stanford encyclopedia of philosophy's example that justifies torture. if you can't think of a DnD equivalent then you're the retard.
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>>507727352
>that's because it's taken from real life
Yeah and D&D isn't real life you absolute fucking retard. Gods objectively exist. There is OBJECTIVE Good and Evil.
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>>507727108
>Devils = Evil
>Devas = Good
What about mind flayers? What about Omeluum?
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>>507727502
that's a lateral move that's completely unnecessary. you don't need objectively morality to justify torture, consequentialism justifies it, as evidenced by stanford's real-life example of a situation that occurred in australia. you just had a spergout because you couldn't imagine a magical bomb-equivalent and a terrorist who was immune to having his mind probed.
thanks for playing
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>>507726485
Prudence is an important part of any good alignment. If letting someone go creates more evil, then a lawful good paladin would kill the person. If you have concrete reason to believe someone is lying to you just to receive mercy and plans on staying evil then you would kill that person too. You're not asked to be stupid, you're asked to follow principles of good and law. This is how it's always been. Executing prisoners because it's easier is not lawful and it's not good. But executing a prisoner that gives you reason to is not outside of alignments.

Torture doesn't get information by the way, it only gets confessions.

In my 15 years of playing dnd, the most fun and interesting alignments for engaging roleplay and gameplay at the table have been LG, TN, and NE.
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>>507727794
>I presented a real world scenario that has no basis in the universe we're discussing
>ACT-ACTUALLY YOU'RE THE STUPID ONE HAHAHAHA
Go drink bleach
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>magical analogues to timebombs don't exist in DnD
these are the people you share a general with
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>>507727912
>Torture doesn't get information by the way, it only gets confessions.
did you read this in a fortune cookie or something? it's incoherent and doesn't cohere with reality at all. torture can most definitely work, there are thousands of such cases
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>>507727792
Evil. Evil.
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>>507728269
The terrorist that is ideologically motivated to murder hundreds of innocents is going to let physical torture stop him? That's what you believe?
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>>507728074
Present the analogue then, retard. Don't expect other people to slurp up your dripfeed, out of universe ACKSHUALLY argument your other ESL coding friends love
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Can you initiate an act 1 sex scene and end it before it gets too far without hurting them/being mean?
For instance, have sex with Lae'zel, then when she speaks to you about fucking again, if you turn that down will that free you up for other romances? Are the options during that scene not mean?
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>>507728337
Lae'zel...
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>>507728480
google Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
then hang yourself for being so woefully misguided
>>507728515
>spoonfeed me
nah im gucci
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>>507728804
Saar the needful saar well done hehe you tell they bitch
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>>507728603
What do you consider mean? You can turn them down pretty easily, but it's not like you apologize repeatedly about how you aren't ready for a relationship and it's not them it's you.
Lae'zel in particular is something like
>Lae'zel, I'm ending our fling if one can call it that.
>Her: "One couldn't and one shouldn't."
>No more sex, got it?
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>please talk about my real-life nonsense
I hate to give a point to the midget player but it's more right than you by virtue of staying on-topic.
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>>507717946
True, being a Spore Druid is sometimes about adding flavor to roleplaying aspects, rather than being effective on the battlefield.

Truly a "suffering" experience...
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Not an attention-whoring avatarfaggot, by the way.
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On another note
What's the CANON Minsc build? Just Hunter STRanger 11/Barb 1?
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lawful evil seems based
>He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life.
>He condemns others not according to their actions but according to race, religion, homeland, or social rank.
literally me
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>>507729143
>What do you consider mean?
"I'm ending our fling, if you can call it that".
>"One couldn't and one shouldn't."
But we both know that's not the case, she's clearly tsundere. Plus, I think that's after the conversation about having sex a second time.
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>>507725527
That is four elements monk
>>507725689
All four elements monks are white, human, males that murder non-human men regardless of their alignment or deeds
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Not an attention whoring namefaggot. By the way..
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>>507721023
I would say Rogue Trader, but more because there is no real boundary between being bad (dogmatic) and good (iconoclast) since it is a grimdark universe anyway, so it is more of a flavor thing sometimes because of how 40k is structured.

I was thinking about Pathfinder, Kingmaker I don't remember if it can become an evil run. WOTR definitely makes you become a Lich or something.

Veilguard is the most recent that fails REALLY HARD at providing a general roleplaying experience, let alone being "evil".
TW3 had the means to make an evil sonovabitch Geralt, but that was a more action RPG.
Starfield, you can become a nihilist but nothing really matters, if you want.
Disco Elysium, again you can be a (forgive me for pronouncing this word) liberal (yuck) but you are not really bad, if we are talking about a purely classical vision of the term.

BG3 is definitely refreshing in that regard!
But I could be wrong so feel free to correct me...no, NOT you. Yes, you: you know who I'm talking about.
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>>507728664
Also evil
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>>507730248
0 artistic talent
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Ever since the subhuman slopswine declared that "there is no language barrier," it has since come up with these pearls of porcine prose:

>I have already implicated you as dishonest
You don't "implicate someone as [negative trait]." "Plagiarism of the soul" tier of nonsense.
>Your conclusions (...) demonstrate poor knowledge of the mechanisms of people
The... "mechanisms of people." Somehow related to "society's waste," no doubt.
>You continue to repeat the same attitudes
Must be a good workout routine. Don't give me these attitudes.
>I have always [been] (...) responding only with tone to your increasingly growing and escalating requests
You don't respond "only with tone," unless you meant the tone of a squealing pig that imitates human language.
>It's humiliating to argue with you
A rare admission - dare I say, concession - that can only have been meant as something else.
>I took some of that aura of an irrepressible namefaggot off you
Unintelligible pigbabble. "Irrepressible" does not mean what it thinks it means.
>I've already quoted and published my thoughts
Which editor greenlit this? Sloppy Editions?
>maybe then it's really necessary to add slop to every post to make myself understood.
The pigbabble itself is already (word)slop.
>your dialectical purposes are either purely malicious or excessively verbose
Unintelligible wordslop.
>cuckhold
This is just a typo, but a very telling one.
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>>507725793
>Bertrude
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>>507730135
Kingmaker allows and rewards evil alignments, but due to the nature of the story you’ll still fight the same end boss.
But you can do shit like rule over your barony with an iron fist, execute dissidents, and sacrifice the souls of an entire nearby barony to get a Lich as your advisor.
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>>507717946
Don't give a shit, still playing it, still raping modded Honor with extra HP on enemies.
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>>507730298
shut the fuck up GHAIK
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>>507731016
hold a sharpie correctly and I may compliment you.
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Wouldn't mind if they added more unique difficulty modifers like using a fire spell creates a puddle of fire for a few turns (similar to how spells in divinity 2 worked)
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>>507728603
>Can you initiate an act 1 sex scene and end it before it gets too far without hurting them/being mean?
With Lae'zel, you can call off the fling at any point during Act 1.
With the others, you're kinda boned once you've initiated the romance because the romance only ends if
>you choose someone else during Act 2 (varies how they take it)
>you refuse them during the Act 2 romance scene (which they never take well)
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>>507730468
I also remember having a headcanon about how there's no such thing as "stealing" in the game so I justified it by being a bully who claimed everything as his, basically a moron with delusions of grandeur. Lol

I prefer the sometimes completely pointless and gratuitous way in which BG3 lets you be evil without any complex justifications, like sending Barcus flying through the air like Team Rocket: only to find out in a later game that what you thought was a throwaway character for an "evil run" gag is actually a key character in unlocking a resolution in Act 3.

This is cinema.

>>507731184
IIRC in EA they had kept this aspect but then it was removed because of some DND mechanics like "dipping" or somethign else, etc. but I'm not actually sure.
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>>507728269
No, it's from contemporary intelligence agencies. Torture isn't reliable because people lie to you to stop being tortured. It's not reliable for information. With the enemies we face today, most of them believe they're doing what they're doing for religious reasons so they're not going to ruin their own plans and the plans of their god just because you hook them up to a car battery.

It's almost always better to bribe them with money or amnesty, but that tactic also doesn't work against the religious fanatics we face today. So the go to strategy now is to not waste time with interviews at all and we try to turn their suppliers for information instead, since someone along the supply chain isn't a religious fanatic and is just making money.

So you're quite mistaken as to the real world contemporary applications of torture.

To bring it back to dnd, a good character would be discouraged from torturing someone, because torture goes against the positive influence good entities are called to have. However, if you were to orchestrate a scenario in which a good character must do something bad to prevent more bad stuff from happening, that would not be outside of the purview of their responsibilities, and it would be unreasonable to change someone's alignment if they are ultimately serving good. In those cases, you and your players would work through that. The rulebook doesn't tell you how to roleplay. But the original post that started this basically said that LG characters are asked to be stupid or imprudent, which is not true. Part of being a LG is knowing how to apply the virtues of Law and Good and the wisdom to discern it. You're not a retard.
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Which CRPGs have characters that have been raped so that the worthless pig fuck can make fun of that?
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Which CRPGs promote attentionwhorishness I’m sure the namefag has already played them
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>>507730380
Don't you find it just interesting how you feel compelled to archive my "mots du jour" from conversations I've "technically" never had with you, M. Whiner?

Because I don't. :(

>>507731560
and now, check out this double (You)

Oh, another admirer of Cesare Beccaria's manuscripts?
I agree with Mintharafag on this one, btw.
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Which thread personality has been spamming its sloppy avatar even though it's against the rules we care so much about? I just think that's interesting.
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Which thread personality is a FAT TRANNY?
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>>507731389
>you choose someone else during Act 2 (varies how they take it)
Shadowheart takes it well.
To confess, I'm trying to see if I can have Lae'zel's act 1 sex and break it off without saying something mean. We both know she only says mean stuff and pretends not to be affected.
Thanks, though. I'll have to see what my options are when I speak to her after sex and she mentions catching me longing for her.
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>>507731401
They removed it because EA players complained it was too much like DOS2
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And after all, why should anyone bring up stuff you've said in the past? It's in the past, so you should just learn to let it go. Look, more slop! It was just one little rape joke anyway, who cares? Did it get under your skin because you were raped like Astarion? Rape. It's just hilarious.
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>>507732427
The scale won’t go down if you don’t actively count your calories fatty.
Then again you don’t know the first thing about activity.
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lawful neutral seems to be the most flexible alignment, even more than true neutral
>you have a personal code
>it can be good leaning in some situations, and evil leaning in others
meanwhile true neutral only really makes sense for zen-adjacent monks. and chaotic neutral is just animalistic pleasure seeking
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>>507732427
Sometimes it is the victims of abuse who exorcise the evil of memory with a smile.

We have been given, unsolicited, such a heavy burden to bear: anything that can ease the pain is permitted.

You should try it, sometimes.
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What abuse? We have no evidence of Astarion actually being sexually abused - being a slave prostitute and being whored out against his will doesn't count - or even that he had sex with his victims (his line about having "bedded thousands" might be a lie). So it must mean that it's okay to joke about him being raped. Logical. If you're a worthless pig fuck.
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>>507732746
It's hard to be neutral when you're the leader of a party tasked with saving the Sword Coast!

For a general DND session, I can agree with you, if you want to play as a centrist opportunist who just wants to make the most of the opportunities that come his way.
Personally, I really dislike the "neutral, centrist type"
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>>507733131
but saving the sword coast is just the byproduct of saving yourself. your primarily motivation is to neutralize the tadpole and save yourself, not to save others
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What alignment is the one most likely to make light of rape? Although, perhaps the question makes little sense. Animals are after all beneath morality.
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>>507733076
Astarion is not funny, there is not a single funny bone in him to save his life, except during his meetings with Godey.
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I'm not asking for help, I'm asking how you, personally, freed Wulbren and the refugees from Moonrise, please.
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>>507733502
>Astarion is not funny, there is not a single funny bone in him to save his life
true and real
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No one cares about Astarion. I certainly don't. It's only through that utter lack of care for the character that I can justify joking about him being raped. And it gets funnier the more I repeat it. It's about roleplaying choices, too. Some "morally superior" individuals might choose not to joke about it, but the only roleplaying that matters is mine.
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>>507733282
Yes, up to a certain point in the story: when the matter begins to get bigger than us, it is clear that the player must face a moral dilemma, well maybe not so much moral as practical, on the fact that the solution to save ourselves is the same to save everyone.
Technically, there are several "easy way out" in the canon lore of DND so the story could end after a few moments but obviously no one wants to see this story.

Taking charge of the lives of many other people becomes quite pressing especially in the last stages of Act 3, and also the narration of the events themselves by how the authors want the final moments to unfold, make even the most shy and misogynistic character still "a hero of Baldur's Gate 3", according to Withers at the final party.

>>507733585
Astarion status: FROGGED
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>>507732746
Neutral good >>>
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>>507732746
>lawful neutral seems to be the most flexible alignment, even more than true neutral
Lawful Neutral is Judge Dredd lmao wtf are you on about
LN isn't "lol sometimes i do good sometimes i do bad depending on how i'm feeling i guess i'm just TWISTED like that"
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>>507728603
I want to be dominated by Lae'zel
Then I want to be dominated by Minthara
Based on who is better I might decide who to romance. If they are both bad, I will probably have to find third option.
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>>507733858
>but the only roleplaying that matters is mine.
Finally, you're so close,you could almost...touch it.
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>>507716751
>Anon, please, leave me at least Minthara, if literal Drow cannot push me and make me more evil, then who can?
Minthara is happiest in the Conquest ending, but I'm happiest in the Destroy Brain ending, where she founds a house in my name, calls me her king and our progeny fuck up drow society. So that's what I pick. I think overall she'd prefer underdark bullshit to conquering the universe with squid fuckers, its just that the powertrip gives her massive orgasms.
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The worthless pig fuck's prayer:

>I never said that.
>And if I did, I meant that as a joke.
>And if it's not, so what, sexual abuse is funny.
>And if it's not, so what, cheating is roleplaying.
>And if it's not, so what, here's some on-topic slop.
>And if it's not, so what, you deserve to suffer.

Following that, since Astarion being raped is a matter of roleplaying, I wonder how many subhumans would choose to inflict that trauma upon him. Any guesses?
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>>507733524
Assassinate the guards one by one to clear the area, then hand the hammer to Wulbren. He breaks down the wall and rescues the tieflings, who all go to a boat in the back.

I've found this method to be much safer than letting them run to the harbor area. At least one always dies that way.

For some weird reason, killing the guards in moonrise towers breaks paladin oaths, so if you're a paladin, sneak around instead of killing the guards.
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I am not joking. I will rape Astarion every playthrough. Physically, by stringing him on long enough that he wouldn't DARE so no to me asking him to bite Araj. I am his protector, after all. I'm one of the good ones. Which is why we need to have sex, regardless of what Astarion thinks.
Mentally, afterwards. After he thinks he's free from me physically. I will remind him of the coffin. I will remind him of how weak he was. I will remind him what a scared, pathetic little child he was. And I will tell him that without the Astral Tadpole, he will be that wretch again. I'll push him to seek Ascension. I'll encourage him every step of the way. I'll watch as he sacrifices 7000 souls to the Hells. I'll watch as his sick, pathetic base urges win out.
And then I will kill him, alongside the Gur, and damn him to the Hells alongside those he sacrificed.
And I will SMILE.
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>>507733524
>threw the eye over the ledge
>stole the hammer
>used the scaffolding to throw the hammer into the cell
>which he used to break the wall
prebreak the chains for the boat to make sure things go off without a hitch
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>>507733524
>Kill every guard in-combat
>Jump up to the ledge
>Break the back wall myself
>Sail to Last Light
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>>507734345
Judge Dredd is based as fuck
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>>507735101
I guess you don't really care about the character, which is fine. You just didn't see his more "gentle" nature, which would later justify you ridiculing him for being raped. That's the porcine logic at play here.
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>>507735375
Yeah but "flexible" he is not
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>>507733524
As soon as Wulbren asks me for a plan to help him I throw the hammer inside the prison, causing chaos with all the guards, I break the tiefling wall with eldricht blast and start fighting the guards while the fight becomes 200 hours longer because after running to the boat, tieflings and gnomes collect weapons and come back to help me.

Finally we take a boat ride and when we arrive at Last Light Inn it's time for the mandatory penis inspection.
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Romancing shadowbae while playing as durge feels more like she is putting up with you rather than actually being there because she wants to. Like she got duped into being into a relationship with a schizo murder addict so she has no choice but to be there for you however she can. Which is weird because you are going through very similar experiences, only yours is like ten times worse with a lot more at stake as well, so you would think she would show more sympathy.
In fact she is arguably the least sympathetic about the whole ordeal.
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>>507735615
Wyll is so lucky bros...
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>>507735615
you know your character is shit when both the fanbase and the devs would rather talk about his main antagonist
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>>507735478
Of course I care about him. I'm one of the good ones. I don't want to hurt him, and I hate that he makes me do it.
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>>507735615
>the nature of the collage requires her feet be cropped out
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>>507735813
I wouldn't call posting cropped porn of a character "talking."
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>>507735615
I think her human form is cuter to be honest.
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>>507735991
Where is Wyll's cropped porn? He's a failure and his writer should be kicked in the nuts
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we already have a cute redhead
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>>50773485
>>507734760
How fat are you
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>>507736135
The same writer gave us Lae'zel so we can't be too upset about him.
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>>507736251
meant for >>507735478 >>507734857
>>507733395
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>>507734140
we already established that good alignment is too retarded to live since they oppose torture and crushing your enemies when they're at a disadvantage
also a good aligned character can't be racist
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>>507736136
She clearly has brown hair
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>>507736008
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I can't believe this general still exists
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>>507734345
you're confusing lawfulness with following the law of the land. it can also be your personal code. if your personal code is "women and children come before men" then hell yes you will moral actions will do a complete 180 when the ship has hit an iceberg and there's limited space in the lifeboats.
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>>507736326
thanks for giving me more options i guess
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>>507736613
we're waiting for patch 8 and their next game's announcement, /bgg/ won't die if both are released in 2025
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>>507736757
thank god it wont get released until 2027
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Oak Father preserve us all.
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>>507736649
No it wouldn't lol
You wouldn't be doing a "Neutral" act if you started slaughtering men or pushing them away to keep them off the lifeboats just because you're following a personal code
You're falling into the same trap every "le Lawful Neutral" nerd does, where they think that burning down an orphanage and giving 100g to the local orphanage are equal acts
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>>507736842
I think you read that incorrectly.
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>>507737096
>You wouldn't be doing a "Neutral" act if you started slaughtering men or pushing them away to keep them off the lifeboats just because you're following a personal code
Correct. You would not be doing a neutral act. You'd be doing a lawful neutral act. Albeit you used a hackneyed example so your bad faith argument can hold at least a little water. Realistically it's more about insisting that men don't board the lifeboats and getting the authorities involved to back up your claim.
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>>507737383
>the authorities
>it’s not about following the law of the land
How many drinks in are you, anon
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>You're being arrested for theft, if you have a defense, make it now
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>>507737963
That crate will be replaced with Arabella soon
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>>507737963
a sweet, hot cup of Mizora's
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>>507737654
>your personal code can't overlap with the law of the land
see, it's because you can't grasp nuance that lawful neutral being able to choose their own path confuses you
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*dance*
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>>507737334
You make incorrect assumptions
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>no you don't get it mizora having a sex scene and not wyll is definitely not racially motivated
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>>507738134
>uhhhrrmmm heheh yeah I’m a FREETHINKER who follows my own CODE like a real man heh
>yes it overlaps entirely with the law, what do you mean
Rope
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>>507735615
Almost makes me want to be a warlock. But with my luck I would got some ugly old bearded male-devil and not a hony hottie.
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>>507739186
>>507739186
>>507739186
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>>507739217
>>507739217
>>507739217
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>>507739204
>>507739251
Our little general is so popular. Use the first one.
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>>507724049
So what you're telling me is she would bear my children in the epilogue?
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>>507731389
Lae'zel still takes it badly, you can never get back with her



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