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https://x.com/OwlcatGames/status/1909984656105116033ITS UP
Arue in yo face
>>521123194Arue ON my face when
>>521123194Ty
>>521123243It may take a while
>>521123443even better
>>521122887>What is your favorite portrait?The aasimar baroness
>>521122887I like this one
I kneel
>>521124134I've just noticed she has some really thick thighs
>>521124134Best written female character in any video game, hands down.
>>521124134fixed
>>521124279>aisloppa
Best shale build? I need a good laugh from you guys.
One portrait immediately comes to mind as one that stands above the rest
>>521124539Any gems that make her tankier + "heavy" skillset or something. I usually just use her to knock things down and then use the buff mode to wait for it to CD.
>>521122887I like this portrait. Nice green colour palette, qt girl but without being coomy like the bdsm one. I mean most of the IWD portraits are great and still havent been surpassed lol
>>521124243I mean yeah she has 19 CON. Bitch is probably packing a massive ass under all that armor.
Ah, the longstanding crpg tradition of someone writing down the fact that someone is killing them at the moment. Vampire the masquerade still has the best one.
>>521124823Is this a joke reply?
>>521123168What the fuck is their marketing department doing?
In skald do mercenaries match the rest of your parties level or is it best to get them early so they aren't way behind you. Also are there any maditory classes for late game on hard so far I have my PC ranger and the starting thief and arms master.
Was perception nerfed in pillars?One point of accuracy for every level seems very weak
>>521125265People in crpgs have families usually, it makes sense. Theyre letting their loved ones know. Irl guys don’t have families unless you’re really really lucky.
>>521124842For me it's the bed face elf
>>521125797The accuracy bonus was actually added later. I don't remember what it used to do before that
>>521125803every life comes with a fucking family dipshit, it came free with your birth
Is kineticist the best class for a swarm playthrough?
What a lazy edition
>>521123443>no meatball in linenot canon
>>521125968No that’s your parents family. You don’t have a family. That’s why you find it weird that they write messages like that. You don’t actually have anyone you care about, and will die after a life spent watching. It’s pretty brutal here. The maker is in the room with us, fuck! If you’re reading this message, run and don’t look back.
>>521125265At least it's on paper, writing down his exclamation is dumb but It's a lot more stupid when it's digital
>>521126357This must be the guy who thinks elves are demoralizing or some shit.
>>521125265My favourites are still in NV>Oh my, I think I've been spotted
>>521126369Digital could make sense if they're trapped somewhere and slowly dying from radiation or a disease or something. Really it's only the up to the minute death notes that are baffling
>>521122887>Play WotR first>Don't make custom portrait for first playthrough>This guy looks like funny stormcaler bardIt was fun angel -> to legend run where everything almost ended up in disaster.
>>521126479Every franchise that uses elves portrays them as incel, or as slaves. Santas elves are all male and do unpaid labor. Elves in ferelden are slaves and get raped by humans. LOTR elves are goddess worshipping incels who spend hundreds of years doing it without cumming, while the female elves have sex with humans like aragorn.
>>521127167>Santas elves are all maleHuh?
>>521127167>somehow forgetting the alfarsInteresting
>>521127167Santa has plenty of shortstacks in his rosterI'm putting you on the naughty list for defamation
>>521127610>>521127564>>521127337The word elf is literally “El F”. L F Loser Fuck
>>521126357Crpgs?
>>521124134owlcat should apologise for trying to gaslight everyone by claiming this brienne of tarth looking bitch as the most beautiful woman in game
>>521127893>Most beautiful woman in the world blessed by Shelynvs.>random tavernkeeper
>>521127863Im somewhat satisfied with my early game route. We get a level 4 morrigan and shale, and a level 5 oghren. It’s pretty hard though, if you make a mistake with healing items, your file is totally ruined. If you accidentally last hit one of the hundred enemies you have to kill, you have to reload. But by doing this, we get an extra 2 strength on oghren. Oghrens so fucking strong, he has the highest DPS in ferelden. So now im somewhat at a loss on what to do after this. Obviously we go back to lothering to rescue bodahn and do the chantry quests. Next we will probably do brecillian forest, as the level of paralysis runes we acquire are fixed from the chests here, and the level doesn’t matter much anyways, and we will also gain access to the supply cache. But for mage tower, we’re probably going to want to do that at the very end. Which means we can’t do the urn of sacred ashes or anything to do with redcliffe castle. Although we can do the attack at at nightfall for Loyd’s ring. I guess during this phase of the game, we’re merely trying to maximize xp gains and gold. Because we have a lot of buyables, it’ll be at least 400g for everything. And we want to unlock that asap, because it looks really funny to have all your party at haste cap doing tons of damage early on, without cheating. What do you think? Where should I go after assembling my party, and why?
>>521125797Accuracy is the most important stat. Pretty much every class wants high perception.
>>521124134Sister Argenta mogs her
>>521125797without deflection or accuarcy (which equals out pretty often) you have 50% to hit 25% to do 50% dmg, 25% to no dmg (0% to crit). you max might instead and you'll get some stupid shit like +18% dmg (that you dont get if you miss). extra accuarcy over deflection is immediately translated into crit % 1 for 1
>>521129403Now that we have a DPS war, the question of “who benefits the most from warden commanders armor?” has arisen. So our rogue will have 100% crit rate through backstabs. Which means he benefits every hit, oghren will only have 100% crit on elites because of death hex. We won’t need to cast that on normal mobs. But to use it on the rogue, we will need to use the helm of honnleath on him too, to reach the strength requirement. Another thing is that we cannot use the legion of the dead armor set, which will give oghren +3 damage. Although I don’t know what’s higher dps, +3 damage or 15% crit damage. It’s probably better to actually use it on the rogue, because there’s only 2 good dps armours for physical melee dps. The felons coat won’t be unlocked until we’ve completed 3 main quests, and it’s not that good anyways.
This is the least entertaining schizo we've had
>>521124134Mogged by the tieflings and half-elf used goods.
>>521130645What phenotype is this
>>521124134Im so beautiful its hard guys. Glad nobody seems to like her besides 2 people.
>>521129940yes but 1 point of perception is not going to make or break the game when you already have a billion accuracy buffing and defence nerfing effects
>laying in bed with my wife, playing crpgsbliss
>>521131760Alpha Bimbo
>>521131884>Glad nobody seems to like her besides 2 people.Numerous people clearly want to fuck her though, but yeah aside from potentially your player character nobody actually likes her, and why would they? She's a raging cunt.
They just don't make 'em like they used to anymore
>>521131503It’s actually probably better to use quicksilver arming cap on the rogue, and to put the helm of honnleath on our dps war, because there’s no other helm for a dps war lol. We won’t be able to naturally reach the strength requirement for our rogue however. So it becomes a question of “how much crit damage is worth 1 point in cunning?”. It’s probably at least 10%. Which means we just don’t even get to use the warden armor. So our next best chest armor will be the shadow of the empire. If we cheated a bit, we could just equipment swap as you don’t unequip items when you lack the requirements. But I don’t think I’ll do that. So, it’s only 1 point in strength. Whats better, +1 cunning or +15% crit damage? They seem to be very comparable. It’s like no different. Which means shadow of the empire is still better. This all changes if we use some of the free DLC items that start in our bags. But it feels a bit like cheating. I also don’t like deleting them, so I miss out on tons of bag space lol. But that’s always an option, it’s fair to set some type of intrinsic requirement to use the free dlc items. My plans basically, once I unlock all the important buyable items like roses thorn and veshialle, it’s fair game to equip a +1 all stats amulet. Because by that point, it’ll just be a minor increase to our parties damage and survivability. In the early game however, free dlc items totally invalidates many of the battles.
Just finished Vordakai's funhouse. Man what a slog.
>>521134381It's all downhill from there.
>>521133629>Numerous people clearly want to fuck her thoughWhere. I just see the seethe about her endings.
>>521134381I hope you made the hidden skill checks if you want the secret ending
gunslinger op
>>521134381I thought it was fun
>>521130645I'm not sure if Owl Cat is brave or stupid for not making her romanceable.
>>521134547Can I kiss these
>>521134024railroaded as fuck? wait no, they still do that.
>>521134538>Caring about the secret endingThe only perk is getting Faye pussy. Pussy that is inferior to literally any other option.
>>521134870no, back when they were actually good
>>521134959There's not exactly a good choice among the lot. Fae pussy means you get to live forever though
>>521134967Does this game even count as a CRPG?
>>521135123literally in the OP
>>521132000Its not make or break but it definitely adds up.Its your damage, chance to hit and crit, chance to debuff and how long those debuffs last, it affects everything.The higher you can get it the better, even if its just a couple points at character creation. Yeah you can buff accuracy but those take time to cast or take up a gear slot. If you set your per to 19 thats an extra 9 accuracy on everything you do without any prep.And those defense debuffs? You need good accuracy if you want those to stick.
>>521135167I still question it.
>>521134058Alistair with dlc items on pre lothering is stronger than an entire party, just because of the way unit collision works. He can pull the entire map, and will barely get hit because of his high dodge rating. Melee dps will stack unnaturally meaning only a few guys can even hit him. This helped me a lot while testing different strategies, some of the pulls require a merry go round gameplay where we shuffle and suicide units in the correct places while avoiding detection. Can still be done without the dlc stuff but you need to bring a huge stack of healing potions. So for stealing basically, I’ve got a plan now. It’s a simple priority of 50s > elfroot/runes. Which we keep for the xp gains with the supply crate. Everything over 50s gets sold. And we don’t have to reload anymore, because elfroots such as common steal. This systems much better. The alternative is stealing things which may or may not really even be a benefit. With semi rare crafting materials like frozen lightning, it can be hard to not steal that over an elfroot. But there’s not really enough to keep a permanent lightning enchanted warrior. Fleshrot is still pretty good, and can be found in infinite quantity. Another debate is for spirit shards. Theyre so cool, but we really just can’t get enough of them. I think maybe there’s like 5 spirit shards before lothering that you can steal. When we break it down like this, a spirit shard has more value than a journeyman rune. But less value than a master rune. And more value than 50s and any other crafting material. Which means we do collect the spirit shards, but not anally. Only linguistically.
>>521134787They reused it for Kibellelah>interest in the plight of the poor or orphans>duty vs identity and love>almost sexual fascination with violenceIt all adds up
>>521124134wife
>>521134967>>521134024not a crpg
>>521135665Its in the OP
>>521136028So was Skyrim for a time, it shouldn't be there, neither should Avowed
based dao analyst dunking on these dollie niggers with facts and logic
>>521136397its in the pastebin
>>521136672>facts and logiche has still not posted any screenshots of his supposed "least amount of XP to get Oghren at as low a level as possible" run so far.
>>521136684Who gives a shit, is that some kind of sacred stone tablet I should care about?Not a CRPG
what is that part of your favorite crpgs
>>521134787I think having a sister of battle in a rogue trader crew is just a poor choice in the first place
>>521137181Sewers in VTMB
>>521137181Usually any tutorial dungeon
>>521137383that's early
>>521137181Ascending the 7000 steps to meet with the Grey Beards at High Hrothgar
>>521137503which crpg do you do that in
>>521137617The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
>>521137674i don't think that's a crpg...............
>>521137776I play the role of Dragonborn aka Dovahkiin
>>521136926hater, he got the lv5 ogren you could never
>>521137181Kingmaker's kingdom management and the other world part
>>521138840How much of the game do you think that takes up?
>>52113894350-50 romance and kingdom management rent free space skipping all the trash fights
>>521138035It’s theorized you can indeed both complete the joining, AND get a level 5 dwarf. But, this will be the hardest challenge ferelden has ever faced. However. This will not result in a level 4 shale. So there’s 2 challenge modes here. Joining + lvl5 oghren. And, lvl5 oghren + level 4 shale. And lvl 4 shale may not even be possible, as my brain is too fried to do simple addition currently. But it most likely is possible. And honnleath is a new nightmare, you have a patrolling elite darkspawn event to trigger which I cannot repeat. This is why you screen record folks. Although the thing is, if you’re trying to make a party capable of defeating the archdemon. Playing as a human is your best chance, which means you’ll never be able to do the joining. It’s a novelty run to do the joining. Not unless you can beat my ishal 1F strategy, which im pretty sure is as good as it’s ever going to get. If for some reason you figure out how to bypass every enemy on this floor. We may be witnessing the most powerful warrior south of Orlais.
c in crpg stands for "computer." Also, the rpgs released after 2000 are not classics.
>>521139741can I post in this thread if I only play RPGs on console then
>>521134381The Varnhold Vanishing was great, peak owlcat. I dont think they will ever top it.
>>521123443it's a much longer line than that
>>521139741Betrayal in Antara stays winning
>>521139734So it’s possible, although highly unlikely. That there may be a hidden rez mechanic im not aware of, specifically rezzing between a wall, or from far away. I have not been able to trigger this type of rez on such a small map. I’ve done it in the deep roads. But if we can sneak a rogue into the stair room, and 2 other companions. Die on them except the rogue. AND, we need to pull 4 genlocks to the start of the map, and die. Then we need to rez them all, before the patrol manages to reach the stair room. This can be done. We have 2 rogues. It’ll happen with multiple rez events, and a map change teleport. But is it enough? Will 80xp be enough? Will it?
Arue didn't choose to be a whore, spiritually she is a virgin.
>>521140381spiritually nobody cares
>>521139897Its infinite like the Abyss.
>>521139832A console is a type of computer.
Shadowheart didn't choose to be a whore she was brainwashed by the shar cult, spiritually she is a virgin.
>>521140549No, my wife Shadowheart is a whore, and I love her for it. Women should not be ashamed of their sexuality, nor try to repress it.If she wants to fuck the entire Goblin camp, she should, and I will be there, holding her hand the entire time, because I love her.
>if I play bg3 now I miss out on the new classes from the patch>if I play when the patch comes out its likely going to be buggy as fuck and mods are gonna be brokenI can't decide.
>>521140381>>521140549You chose to post this, spiritually you are a cuck
>>521138943The Kingdom part a huge amount. I almost fucked up and lost by going too fast in it
I cant think of a single crpg romance that is realistic, it takes years for a woman to want to have a relationship and sex with you not a couple of weeks. It's extremely immersion breaking.
>>521137181>Alushinyrra
>>521140912The writer of dragon ages last name is literally “gay durrr”. Women most likely don’t have minds, in the same way that gay dur doesn’t have a mind. Maybe you do. I do after all.
>>521139832No, your purchasing habits are actively ruining the medium of videogames and specifically games known for complexity like crpgsI can't make you of course, but I think you should leave.
>>521140936Alushinyrra was fun, I like when a chapter takes place over a big city like Baldurs Gate rather than an overworld.Only problem is they made it a nightmare to travel around it, which makes sense from a lore perspective but sucks to actually play through.
What's the deal with companions having unnaturally high stat blocks? The protagonist gets 20 points to buy stats, but assuming Seelah's +2 racial is in STR, she has 28 points of stats.
>>521142783Seelah is special because she is pretty much paladin elminster
>>521142783>The protagonist gets 20 points to buy stats
Shadowrun Returns is pretty cool so far.
We made sure to invest into some new gear.Medbot DroneHover DroneSome new armour that improves both intelligence and drone control
>>521143596Did you start with Dead Man's Switch or jump straight to Dragonfall/Hong Kong? I considered the first campaign a decent proof of concept, but the writing in the sequels was much better.
>>521142783All of the companions have high points except nenio, I believe.
>>521143131Unless your Hedwirg, then you get a 32 point buy.
imagine naming your kid """""""Hedwirg"""""""
You guys play with 25 point buys? How do you even build a character?
>>521144354Like a dyslexic Harry Potter fan or something
>most powerful enemy defeated>radiant spore>not the alpine drakeDragons btfo
>give valerie lots of CON (meaning big tits)>paizo is kind of close to paizurihmm
>>521144040I am pretty certain that I am playing Dead Man's Switch. Haven't tried Dragonfall or Hong Kong but I have put them both on my wishlist.
>>521124134>>521130645proof this is anti-atheist demoralization
>>521145036If I can't see them they may as well not exist
>>521144509That Radiant Spore fight in the Stalwart mines was almost as difficult as the fight against the beast at the bottom of the Endless Paths.
>>521144419I play on Hard and respec everyone with 20 point buy
All this Pillars talk makes me want to try it again. First time I played it I tried going full melee as a bleakwalker paladin but didn't really find it satisfying. Should I try for a more magic oriented class instead?
>>521145036Muscular women have small tits because tits store fat
>>521145638The real secret is to make your own custom party.
>>521145638Im waiting until they release the turn based mode
nobody askedwhy are TBfags so loud and also insistent that everything accomodate them? it really is a common theme, some sort of personality trait
>>521146506You lost Sawyer again
If you leave lothering before killing the darkspawn attacking bodahn, then come back later to recruit him. He will not bring his wagon to your camp, but will still sell everything. If you wait too long to talk to him after killing the darkspawn, he will leave lothering on his own, and show up at your camp. But you’ll miss out on the reward for saving him, although he will still mention it before you trade him.
>>521146651Dragon Age is the next CRPG on my list.
>>521142783Makes it easier for the player to respec them into something else if they have good stats.
>>521146889Youll never reach the heights I’ve climbed mountains you’ll be using a level 15 oghren and 8 morrigan with frost enchanted dual swords lol!
>>521146506>why are TBfags so loud and also insistent that everything accomodate themTurn based is the objectively better way for these types of games to play
>>521147216me:>I can enjoy bothyou:>all games must converge to one game
>>521148178>I can enjoy both eating shit and at a fine dining restaurant!
Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny are both real time and they are great.I played both with direct control of all party members and paused often. It was fun.
>>521148373Imagine if you didn't need to pause often and instead it was a built in aspect of the gameplay that allowed for deeper, more tactical and engaging encounters
>>521148493>TB means deeper, more tactical and engaging encounters>it just does ok!! I've found a lot more tactics and having to switch up my strategies mid-battle due to something happening and overall satisfying sense of 'being a general' in Pillars1&2 than for instance PF games or BG3. And Pillars1 poor encounter design (different than the combat itself) has nothing to do with RTwP vs TB, it was just a bad design decision, and that's easily seen by its improvement in Deadfire.
*flop my big tbmeat on the rtwpsissy's face*you know what to do
CRPGs that might be worth your time:Pillars of EternityPillars of Eternity 2Pathfinder KingmakerPathfinder Wrath of the RighteousDivinity Original SinDivinity Original Sin 2Baldur's Gate 3Rogue TraderTyrannyWasteland 3Shadowrun DragonfallExpeditions RomeSolasta Crown of the Magister
I suppose I can accept your tearful concession
>>521149817Where's Avowed?
Has anyone played Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 1 or 2 in the last couple of years? I was wondering if they still held up?
>>521150372You're NOT going to believe this...but yeah, they still hold up.There's still an updated mod guide even: https://kotor.neocities.org/modding/mod_builds/
>>521150280not a crpg
>>521142783That's why i give myself 30 build points using toybox.
>>521123194
>>521150648He raped her, didnt he
>>521152982POV: You are one of the billion demons Arue fucked
SexWith Wenduag
>>521154040>5 CHAhave some standards anon
>>521154281I think being a mutant cannibal demon worshiper that makes very bad decisions is a little higher priority than the low charisma
>>521154475The cannibal demon worshiper part is hot tho
Sex with good Arue as a Demon
>>521145638Paladins can be a little boring yeah. If you want a more interesting/active melee character I recommend monk, they're super cool in pillars.All the caster classes are really strong if you want to go that route.
>>521154735Hot
>>521154735Doesn't she fuck off if she's good and you go full demon before the sex part?
>>521154840Thats why you rape her
>>521150372The gameplay is very basic but they're a fun ride.I don't even care for star wars that much and still enjoyed it.
>>521154840>tick the option where companions won't leave you>Arue stays and let me commit as many atrocities >also have demon babies with me and becoming my queen
>>521155086Well yeah. Cheating or writing fanfiction allows basically anyway
>>521154475>>521154553Again have some standards. you are romancing someone who is canonically uglier than a Troll.
>>521155313I honestly don't know what 5 charisma is supposed to mean. I'd think if they were actually accurate to the stat, rather than being super ugly she'd be barely able to articulate herself like an autistic person or something.
>>521155472https://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores/>Has no awareness of the needs of others, almost no sense of empathyyeah fits Wenduag to a T
>he plays crpgs to make his virtual dollies smoochembarrassingdifficult to witness
>he goes on crpgg and repeats his forced meme every day like an autistembarrassingdifficult to witness
>he plays crpgs to make his virtual dollies fightembarrassingdifficult to witness
>he plays crpgs to make his virtual dollies fightcoolI like to see this
>I'll show you the way...to your grave!Absolute cinema. bravo
>>521157508reminded me of this great journal entry in my bg1 game
>>521158619I hate that quest so much
>>521158619Interesting party setup. I've never used Faldorn before
My 80 WS wife being very patient with me as I use my 30 WS to swing a knife around.
>>521159361Kibber is too tall for my liking
>>521160601what you mean you're not attracted to a 7 foot tall bowl cut autist with scars and piercings all over her body?
>tank can only be hit on 18+>18>reload>19>reload>nat 20>every time a hit does land it's for 40+ btw, guaranteed one shot>casters in the back are untouchable because if other melee charge into them, mobs actively switch to whoever has the lowest AC so they get one shot as wellunfair demoralized me
>>521161716But I am
>>521162250Witches and Shamans have hexes.Hexes are essential for any unfair run.Protective Luck will turn that 15% chance to hit into a 2.25% chance to hitIt'll turn a 5% chance to hit into a 0.25% chance to hit
>>521161716>>521160601>what you mean you're not attracted to a 7 foot tall bowl cut autist with scars and piercings all over her body?What is the superior waifu homeworld?
We’re somewhat forced into doing the mage tower. Without it, we cannot access any of our 8th tier talents. Furthermore, our equipment options are very limited. I’d honestly choose to leave the player character at camp for the majority of the game, as he’s the weakest party member until we complete some milestones. Then he becomes the second highest DPS in ferelden. Theres actually a lot of controversy around making your player character a rogue. It might be better to not steal from the high ranked elite enemies. 4 points in stealing will not be enough, you need a high cunning rating too. So these guys don’t really have anything too important to steal, but you’ll be really behind on gold if you don’t do that. And gold is a very efficient stat. But a 2 dps war party composition would outperform, especially if we can get enough gold before lothering to buy a second veshialle. Thats most likely possible, although will be extremely time consuming. I’ve never seen anyone manage to do that before.
>>521162786My guy. Just play a mage knight and stomp everything with double haste.
>>521163128We already have Morrigan as an AW slave. Haste cap is better reached through momentum, because you get to use precise striking. And a rogue will need a swift salve with momentum, so we have to cleanse haste off the rogue first.
>>521160601She's also ugly and poorly written
>>521163128Dps war is way stronger than an AW because of dual striking and it gets a fuckton of bonus weapon damage through talents, and double dips into the AW talent tree as everything AW gets is actually party wide except for the defensive talents, but we don’t need them, because we have taunt and forcefield. Yeah we just skip shit talents like rock armor. Only need 2 enchants, haste and miasma. After this she’s used for death hex, forcefield and cleanse. Mana clash is also pretty good, but we mainly get it because it’s right next to spell might, which is another way to buff oghren as her enchants scale off of spell power. AW is only really taken to give us access to massive armor, as it’s a free willpower boost in slots that can’t gain spellpower. And, staff attacks aren’t that good without sacrificing party damage. So we can throw a sword and dagger on Morrigan and have her do pretty okay DPS.
Who should I swap out for the monk? Never used him before.mc is a bleak walker paladin.
>>521165412>no broder>no sassy elf mage>literally who woman cipher>fish chantershiffy diggy
>>521165412Hiravias he sucks
>>521162738Commorragh
>>521165546I'm mixing up my party this time, I always use eder and aloth.Also Kana is based. That being said I might drop him, chanters are kind of boring and one note (lol)>>521165571I don't like him but he's super busted..
>>521135495>>interest in the plight of the poor or orphansthis doesn't apply to kebab>>almost sexual fascination with violencethis doesn't apply to argentaTalking out of your ass again, waifutard
>>521137181Doesn't have one
>>521166103>this doesn't apply to argentaYeah it does, listen to how excited she gets in combat>interest in the plight of the poor or orphansI recall she made some remarks during the Lowest Walks of Life quest
>>521166231>listen to how excited she gets in combatFap before you post, virgin>>521166231>I recall she made some remarks during the Lowest Walks of Life questI make some remarks about your retardation every day, doesn't mean I have any intrest in the plight of retards
>>521166527Well be that as it may, it's clear that most of the cut Argenta content was reused for Kibellah, because why wouldn't they reuse it?
>>521166608>It is clearYour headcanon is clear only to you
I’m pretty sure the best shale build is 38 con, 20 strength, and put everything else into dex. Use lightning crystal set. This will easily provide a full minute in stone aura, probably 1min 30s. The other option is to take more points into willpower. Or to use the mana regen large crystal. We skip out on the strength requirement for more powerful small crystals, as these won’t improve shales stone aura duration. And the defensive bonus will be less than just putting our points into dex.
>>521122887>What is your favorite portrait?I like all the Pillars ones. Good artstyle and lots of varieties. They're also closest in sovl to the original baldurs gates ones
>>521122887>What is your favorite portrait?My pyromancer psyker from rogue trader
>>521166936What's his endgame?
I never really liked the concept of a sloth demon. As if fatigue is some hurdle to overcome, like the pain just goes away if you try hard enough. Feels like im being gaslit. At least with sexual desire demons, there’s an argument there, it’s a battle which can actually be won through higher willpower.
>>521167137Jolly cooperation
>>521167137estus cancel into parry hardswap chaos dagger
>>521167531It's about the temptation of being a lazy piece of shit, not actual physical fatigue
>>521167531Have you ever heard of depression
How does crit chance work in skald? For some reason my ranger is criting more than my thief.
>>521169530Joke word, if you’re experiencing depressed based fatigue, it’s more accurately defined as a type of slavery. You’re being made to do something against your will, and your mind is saying no thanks. Although in this case, it’s not an actual person who has enslaved you. It is the world. Which we can factor into this equation as a variable. Because the world does gain when it enslaves you, there’s profit being made, just not by a person. >>521168083The sloth demon is depicted as a tired sleeping bear. The irony is he’s in the face, and there’s nothing to even do there anyways. The only slothlike thing about him was his voice actor. Like he even plays a game with you, guy wasn’t lazy at all. You just can’t create a lazy character because sloth isn’t even real.
>>521169530That's not real just change your mindset
>>521170590You sound like you snort self help books.
>>521170590if this is satire nice job I laughedif not holy moly oh my goodness gracious oh man
What's the best kineticist subclass and how do you build them?
>>521167813kek
What did you think of the grieving mother's questline?
>>521176093Unironically filtered me because it was too text heavy which is not something that bothers me. It just bored me and I find her boring too. plus every time I spoke to her you get that annoying bell sound effect. That said, her story is a bit interesting along with being invisible to basically everyone. I always bench her anyway.
>>521176371Yeah its pretty text heavy. I got filtered me the first time but on a replay I went through it and really enjoyed it.Not a fan of the choice at the end though. There's pretty much no reason to wipe her memory because the other choice's ending slide is way better for her.
>>521176093I thought it was interesting, but apparently a lot of people didn't. There's also a couple funny moments with the party being unable to effectively notice her including a really fucked up sacrifice to skaen scene if you do that, but her never really interacting with anyone else is a pretty big downside
>>521176093Never played PoE, is she romanceable?
>>521177231Nobody is. You can sort of mindfuck her though
>>521166936The pillars portraits are also conveniently the same size as baldur's gate ones if for some reason you don't imagine your character covered in grease and beads
WotR is really sick so far. The swarm and lost chapel sections were awesome. Managed to find all the secret path stuff on my own, just got arueshalae, wonder if I can fuck her up if I stay evil
Did they add any content for Swarm like they did for Devil and GD?
>>521122887>>521166936Big fan of PoE portraits. They're a great combination of mundane and fantasy.
>>521178241Other than that one guy with the fetish that commissions art, I don't think anyone actually plays swarm
>>521177413>covered in grease and beadsIt's a 90s thing, zoomers and younger millenials won't get it.
>>521176093I completely missed her on my 1st playthrough, which funnily is very fitting for her character.I really need to replay PoE. It's been too long.
So I'm about 6 levels into my Ecclessitheurge Cleric into Angel run and it just hit me that I won't be able to wear any armor and all the robes look fucking gay
>>521178597That's like a defining feature of the subclass
>>521178597Use this.https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/14A lot of armor looks gay as well anyway.
>>521178652I guess I just assumed there would be a cool looking wizard robe before remembering that there aren't any
I got scared when I saw the corpse next to leske. They actually cut the guys face off. That was the dwarf commoner origin warden, who I just finished a run as. It felt like I was seeing my own player. I also often get surprised when I see my own guy on the screen, while controlling a companion. Like I’ll be looking at all the npcs and talking to them, then I run past my own player character and shout “that’s me im that guy”. I got a sweet new armor set. It’s just the normal reskinned leather armor, but it’s slightly green on the cuffs. Looks badass for some reason.
>>521178409Yeah, they're not over the top or flashy like the pathfinder ones are. I also like the paper watercolour ones from Deadfire.
Anybody tell Zach to fuck off at Mythic 8? Anything interesting happens if you refuse to go skeleton and finish the game with your flesh suit still on?
>>521123870this one is pretty cool, it has served me well
>>521176093I liked it. I liked most of the soul and cipher stuff in PoE though. It's a shame that her gimmick kind of makes her a much less appealing companion than the others.
>>521122887Icewind Dale had some cool ones
>>521179915I think it's cool, but I don't really see a character when I look at this
>>521124582Amerika-san...
>>521126735based tons of fun bard
>>521179993Every crpg should have a few generic portraits like that.
>>521134381that dungeon was about 20% too long
>>521126735isn't this the fucking weirdo alchemist from Kingmaker?
>>521180121I remember Pillars having various flavors of "helmet man" and those looking the best of all the options
>>521143596>>521145048glad you're having fun anonDead Mans Switch is a good little story with some noir vibes, hope you hop onto Dragonfall and HK after, they're a lot more fleshed out in terms of characters and have more mechanical options too
>>521174796pls answer, I've never played this class
Gorim “say lack”, because his discount is worthless. It’s meant to surprise you because he later sells the chasind great maul. But two handed weapons are complete trash. So that’s actually the real joke is that his inventory actually is lacking and it wasn’t sarcasm.
>>521180206Best pillars portraits are the death godlikes. God's chosen helmet people.
>>521158619I love when games have fun little bits hidden in the journals like that.Diablo III had the quest descriptions written differently for every class, my favourite being the crusaders terse entries about going to "have words" with various demon lords
Which RPGs have the best tech based classes? I want to build and craft stuff or, failing that, be really good at shooting lasers. Does Rogue Trader let me borg out like an tech priest?
>>521180459based and berathpilled
>>521179993I see a cool, slightly spooky human male fighter
>>521180206every game with preset portraits should have a few helmet/mask man onesowlcat not having them annoys me but its my fault for being a consolefag I guess
>>521170305What weapons are you using and did you take improved critical? The lethal accuracy tree improves your crit multiplier and critical confirmation but shouldn't be impacting your crit chance.>>521178420I tried checking online and apparently Swarm got nothing. Ah well I'll go play it anyway cause it's been a while.>>521179284Doesn't he just start seething and try to fight you?
>>521180667You don't actually play owlcat games on a console do you? Every play through would have so much buggy shit you can't fix
>>521180672>"start" seethinghe's always seething. I assume he just spergs out an there's a fight, but I was wondering what happens afterwards.
>>521180360I think the base one (or maybe elemental engine if you're willing to be a bit more fragile for a bit more power) is considered the best because of the deadly earth spamKinetic Sharpshooter is gimmicky and poorly worded but has some neat tricks up its sleeve (you can use your kinetic quiver to use wild talents, so spamming tidal wave all day is an option at lvl 18, which is fun if probably not that strong on higher difficulties)
>>521180667I like that the pillars hood portraits had variations for different races/skin colours too.
>>521180839There really should always be a hood guy and a helmet guy.
>>521180769I do, though normally well after release at which point they're not too bad. WotR crashed a couple times in a play through which was annoying but not a big dealDid make the mistake of getting Rogue Trader on release and that sucked though
>>521179915Icewind dale's really are the best.
>>521180782He gets his ass beat and goes to the phylactery (his wand) which is at the back of the ziggurat he then begs you not to kill him cause your mythic powers fucked up his phylactery so he cannot bring himself back.
>>521181005Am I to assume you can't threaten him to give you shit instead of begging at that point? Because that would drastically improve my opinion of that mythic path if you could
>>521181005Is that what he does if you go Legend? That's pretty funny, but if I ever played Lich it would be Lich into Legend because I want to keep my penis
>>521181110What the fuck can he give you at that point? He's trapped in his wand for all of eternity, it gives some decent metamagic wand stuff iirc. The gay part is that you can teleport and grab his wand before the ritual but can't counter-threaten him when he tries to make you beg.
>>521180809>Elemental Engine Is there an infusion order to take and am I forced to use magma instead of going for a lightning oriented one? How's the blood kineticist one?
>>521126369It's even more stupid when it involves candlejack, and the post just cuts off mid-sen
>>521126369OH N-
>>521181529This has been discussed before. It simply means that candlejack is the one who
>>521181202You get the battle if you switch to any late game mythic but I think the begging part is lich exclusive.
John kingmaker but not a sissy twink late for his back street boys auditionAlso prefer Yunelard, except he NTRs every one as a fat bastard
>>521122887>What is your favorite portrait?It's a bit blurry from the upscaling but I still like it.
>>521179135>80% are mystery meat
>>521125265
>>521184680blonde mace girl is better
>>521184714>game set in fantasy pirate land ruled by fish people isn't completely populated by white human male fighterswtf????? no way>>521185204for me its the mage girl in the orange robe
>>521185204>blonde mace girl is betterbased
>>521185335Are they white fish or mutt fish?
>>521122887>TQThis mythic Hedwirg I made in Gimp will forever be my favourite.
>>521145048That's the wrong order, if you had bought Dragonfall or Hong Kong you could have gotten Dead Man's Switch for free as a module for the upgraded engine.I guess it doesn't really matter if you already got the game, though.My favourite of them was Dragonfall.
>unable to roll higher than a 6, five times in a rowprobably the thing that drives me to rage most in wotr
>>521155472>>521155613Yeah, Wenduag isn't ugly, she's just lacking in basic social graces like "when trying to convince someone that you'd be a good teammate, don't brag about being a treacherous demon cannibal who's done a lot of treachery".
>>521155472An uncivilized guttersnipe
>>521185335>the mage girl in the orange robeYou mean the midget?
The gold increase from stealing with a higher character level is actually pretty noticeable because of the scaling. So this means after we get the level 5 dwarf, our next objective is to gather codex entries, and to complete side quests which do not involve combat. It stings a little bit to do this before we get wynne, because zhevran is also gotten right after that. This will give us a way higher level wynne and zhevran. I most likely will never find a use for these companions, aside from making potions. But im pretty sure the game auto allocated their skills to poison making and herbalism until rank 3 anyways. So it shouldn’t be a big loss. There’s at least 50 enemies to steal from in the mage tower, and this will probably give us like an extra 5 or 10 gold. Chest and enemy loot will also scale every 3 levels. Which means it’s probably not worth exploring new places, but it will be worth doing the places I’ve already been to, and potentially other places, as long as they don’t have many containers. Some combat encounters will be okay to do, as many of the enemies don’t have anything to steal, like in the proving grounds. I should be able to do most of orzammar. Another thing is godwin has a massive cunning check, but that can be done later in the game. I have a cunning score of 90, and it’s still not enough. Mage tower will definitely be the first main quest we complete on our serious playthrough. I really wanted to do brecillian, but without the fade stat bonus, a rogue can’t function that well. We will do the forest after mage tower, so we can turn in a large number of elfroot and deep mushrooms that we stole from everything before lothering. It’ll get us at least a full level of xp. I think it’s better to hold off on stealing from npcs in Orzammar until way later. Stealing more elfroot is good xp, but if we wait awhile, the level scaling will have the same benefit as what I was discussing earlier.
>>521187245I mean my wife
>>521187469The highest value item that comes from a chest is arrows. At least until level 12 im assuming. And arrows don’t scale. So this will provide some type of boundary in regards to where we visit. Adding the xp gained from mage tower plus what we get from codex entries and non combat xp. Means we can visit other new areas before mage tower, as long as we won’t be getting level 15. But this won’t be true for higher ranked containers that contain massive body armor. Because the sale price will scale at a very high rate and will totally outclass the arrow spawns.
Am I missing something but why does there never seem to be wizard staves in the popular crpgs? Wands are shit
>>521188530I think they exist in World of Warcraft
>>521188530Another reason why Tyranny is based
I now get the appeal of Aeon's bane.
>>521188530Mages don't actually cast with staves in most of the popular crpgs but if you make them a defensive weapon for casters you have to balance them around melee dudes being able to pick them up.
>>521188530Not really sure which games you mean. I've been playing Pathfinder lately, and there are several.
>>521155042It's kinda its strength it's what people call a "popcorn rpg", it's supposed to be streamlined. Though I guess it could use the enemies not being dumb apes, at least the jedi ones, the "balance" of the game really breaks past level 12 or so.
>>521188530You know what game has magic staves?Betrayal in Antara
If I start Rogue Trader now and the new DLC comes out during my playthrough, will I be able to play it on my save or does it need to be a new save? Probably a hypothetical but I imagine it was the same when the last one was released.
>>521195527I think you have to restart if you advance beyond Act 1
>>521195527Well Kibellah showed up as part of a space event.There are companions you can only get extremely late into the game and they have lines programmed in if you have them in the party when Kibellah arrives. If you start a new game, however, Kibellah shows up at the start of chapter 1.If the DLC is implemented like that, then in theory you can take any old save game and boot it up with the DLC.That having been said, there's no concrete info on anything yet and this is all speculation on my part.
>>521196313>>521196418hmm I just finished the prologue so maybe I should wait then. My autistic completist self wants to do it all together, especially if the release date is likely close
>>521190403>aeon's bane stacks with inquisitor's bane>the "judge" subclass doesn't actually have baneone job
>>521188530It's quite cringe that pathfinder staves are literally the same str weapon as monk staves and not some wizard item despite the fact that most of them have caster specific bonuses
>>521196524I'm also in this dilemma. I gotta finish a couple games so there's no rush, but I also wanna play it soon so I hope they announce it for this month or the next.
>>521199546Yeah same. Maybe I should finally finish WOTR and then jump into RT when finished.
Which companions actually try killing you as Swarm?
>>521125861Someone made an AI-iffied redo of the BG2 portraits and honestly I have to admit they turned out nice. I don't know if they've done one for IWD or not. But, suddenly the Sarevok romance mod is just not... complete enough...
>>521126096Kineticist is insanely OP. It doesn't matter what playthrough you're doing, they're just game-breakingly head and shoulders over literally anything else. There's a reason that class is universally banned in tabletop. Only Summoner is more hard-banned.
>currently have a BG1, Pillars1, and WotR gamewhy do I do this
>>521180202He's a wizard. Has a serious sadism kink, tortures trolls for fun and profit because they aren't really people.
>>521201445You have ADHD
>>521201749I have ADHD and I barely have enough attention for one role at a time. This ain't it.
>>521180527Vatnir, my beloved... Fuck Berath. That rotten whorescunt has absolutely no chill or style. The Beast of Winter, though? Gonna vogue on these bitches.
>>521198209Why should they be different? It's a stick.
>>521186108Honestly I love Hong Kong. Duncan Gunshow Wu can absolutely GET. IT. from me any day.
i like to make chars with 17 STR instead of 18/xx in baldur's gate 1 + 2, because it ends up more satisfying when you do the evil route and receive the +2 to STR
>>521201882based and entropypilled
>>521202343so you end up with 19 instead of 20? how is that more satisfying?
>>521202078No. A staff is a ceremonial symbol of station and a ritual implement. It is not a weapon. It not meant to thump things with. It is not a quarterstaff. At all. Fucking ... NO.The actual explanation is that there's no mechanical reason to use a quarterstaff weapon if you're playing a monk in the Owlcat games. Your fists are better and free. In a tabletop environment, there's a whole lot more to consider. And also, for the record, in a tabletop environment, magical staffs are not the same thing as quarterstaff weapons, though it's still not very clear about that distinction. Most GMs would let you wrench off a chair leg and treat it as a club, because it's a distinctly inferior weapon and if you're that desperate then you can be rewarded for your ingenuity. Monk unarmed strike is still always superior to a basic bitch club, though. The reason to use manufactured weapons is for special properties like reach, trip or some kind of weird enchantment (because amulets of mighty fists are very expensive to enchant for that).
>>521202457>so you end up with 19 instead of 20there's the str tome you can find in bg1 technically, but either way, there's a MASSIVE gap between basic bitch 18 and 20 or even 19. makes me feel like I'm actually ascending into a demigod proper.
>>521157508cute name
>>521202773Use mods to smooth out the weird 2e tables.
>>521203079which mod are you referring to? it's not a big deal to me either way though.
>>521165412Pallevagina. Zahua mogs that bitch.
Do you guys think less of developers who insert themselves into their game in some form?
>>521202704>a ceremonial symbol of station and a ritual implementYou're thinking of a sceptre (or possibly a wand). A staff is of suitable length and durability to use as a weapon if necessary, whether or not it's primarily intended as such.
>Gorion's Ward>Imoen>Sarevok>Aerie (and baby Quayle)I just wish we could have had 2 more bhaalspawns to fill out the party. It's a shame you can't recruit Illasera and Balthazar.
>>521203212BG1/2 have had active modding communities for twenty years. I've been playing BG2EE with a big fat collection of mods that I've edited myself with Near Infinity for so long that I actually do not remember the names of the original mods. I've made thousands of edits to the override files, so there's no way that your game would be the same as mine.But to answer your question, I believe the original mod was called Scales Of Balance. It has a component which applies effects to every creature in the game that will give a bonus or penalty to various things based on the value of their ability scores. I love it because it finally gave me a reason to give a fuck about anything other than strength (which was a HUGE problem with 2nd edition's design in general).https://www.gibberlings3.net/forums/topic/26838-unearthed-arcana-presents-scales-of-balance-a-post-hac-tweak-pack/But apparently it's been deprecated somewhere along the way. There'd be no way for me to remove / update anything because my game's install is unique now. I dunno if I wanna go through the trouble of constructing a completely fresh install.
>>521203317No. I said staff because I meant staff. Scepters are also ritual implements and symbols of station. Staffs have been, as well, since literally before humans could write language. How do we know? Because there are drawings and paintings depicting them as such. Famously, in Egypt.What's the difference between a staff, a scepter, a wand and a rod?Indeed... Length? And that's about it. You wouldn't dream of using a king's scepter as a club. Imagine the pope using the papal ferula as a quarterstaff...And that's all before we get into the history of modern neo-paganism which is what actually inspired your concept of "mage's staff". I'll summarize: to use a magical implement for vulgar melee combat would be to irrevocably profane the implement such that it would never be useful for magic ever again. There has never been a magical tradition real or invented in which banal, mundane objects like weapons were compatible with the working of magic. In a very real and literal sense, the more mundane a thing is, the less magical it is. I cannot emphasize that foundational principle enough.
>>521204138that's a pretty cool mod, thanks for the link. i won't use it for my current playthrough but i can appreciate what it does.
>>521203304sawyer using himself for a portrait was unbelievably cringe
Man, going back to Kingmaker after 300 hours of Wrath is rough. I didn't recognize the amount of QoL in the latter until it was gone.
>>521205791that was a backer who asked if he could use his kickstarter reward for a sawyer portrait instead of his own facethat portrait goes hard tho. ngl.
I don’t think I want to play a game called kingmaker. I’m pretty sure it’s going to be 100% subliminal wish fulfillment poz which will give you mental aids.
>>521206406anon that's all crpgs and the wish fulfilment isn't even subliminal.
>>521204138nta but thanks this looks good.I'm closing in on the end of my BG1 game, and it was the first time I was using mods. I particularly like SCS and Spell Revisions, but also there's some nice little ones like an economy one (even still I'm swamped with gold though), and one that has pack animals acting more realistically. That one I find especially cool.Any other suggestions for BG2 mods?
>>521206406>100% subliminal wish fulfillment poz which will give you mental aids.sounds like you already have mental aids
>>521206056Oh my god, yes. I did that recently, and I know exactly what you mean. It's a lot like going from Deadfire back to PoE1 in terms of "holy fucking shit, we used to play like this?"
>>521206406do 4Xs give you an aneurysm
>>521203304I think less of them whenever they put in a female character or whatever character that they favor so heavily. Looking at you fucking Shadowheart and Jae Heydari.
I wish there was stuff to do in Kenabres at various points, I really hate it being a big city that's some maps in Act1 and then not even accessible at all ever again except for jumping right to Neathholm once.I think I'm in the minority there though, I think most players want to have a map with the buttons where there's points of interest. It's so soulless to me though. And the alternative doesn't have to be endless replicas of buildings and houses. A lot of BG1 especially was like that but it was also 25 years ago, and also there were a lot of unique things if you poked around. But "oh no, sorry impossible, we fired our writers and most of budget is tied up in cloak physics"
>>521206612I recommend you get familiar with the Gibberlings3 site / community. There's ... a LOT of mods that've been made for the games over the years. Quite a few which address the profound failures of ancient 2nd edition D&D's fundamental mechanical design. Spell Revisions is mandatory. Of the other "overhaul" style mods, many of them are sort of limited by the engine's capabilities, and of course as Beamdog gave the games a facelift and externalized many things, it allowed modders to do a LOT more than they used to be able to (Near Infinity has also gotten a lot more capable as a toolkit. This means that older mods might have some really cool ideas but might not have great implementation because of how limited their tools and access were twenty years ago. But a lot of those same people are literally still around and tinkering and putting out mods for the games today.Of the companions, I think Haldamir is very good for being a compact, simple little "I need an extra guy" type of thing. He's got a very direct and simple implementation and personal development. Ajantis and Kivan for BG2 (I think they were made by Jastey?) will bring you some extremely - extremely! - interactive and chatty companions, and they're very powerful (Kivan in particular is strong in combination with her updated archery mod). I like Faren. He's useful as a pure thief, and you can tweak him into a Shadowdancer with EEKeeper or modding his .cre with NI if you want. He's very easy-going no-drama almost to a fault, but that makes him charming by comparison to, say, Ajantis or Anomen.I like what I did to Monks. I edited all the priest scrolls so that Monks could use them. It really helps pad out their utility, especially with the expanded scrolls I've added by mods to invoke various priest spells. And the expanded inventory in shops, so temples sell lots of priest scrolls for you to use. It helps relieve a lot of the pressure on your cleric's spell slots.
>>521208558Oh also robes. I edited some of the robes to give benefits that rog/mages, fig/mages and monks want and that seems to have worked very well. Rasaad finally became worth his spot on the roster, though still underperforming by comparison to Kivan.I do complain about Jastey's writing, though. When she made the originals, she was definitely a fanfic hambeast and it shows. Lots of very florid purple prose in the pink-covered romance novel genre. But at least mechanically her mods are relatively robust. There were a few weird quirks that I don't think she figured out a way to get rid of - like the dangerous map in Ajantis' mod where you can accidentally leave the illusory Windspear Hills and not be able to get back in. Or Kivan showing up missing a few hit points so his AI thinks you attacked him and he goes hostile. Some of those she's fixed (you can directly edit his .cre with NI to fix the hit points for example).And Haldamir's dialogues had a weird loop accidentally left in, but if you run into it, you can find that dialogue with a search using NI to scan for the string, and then just set the pointer to the correct node so the dialogue will continue.Some of the very old mods like Weimar's Solaufein have been adopted by other modders since I don't think he maintained that one. I don't know if they've fixed the language / character set issue in that one which was causing crashes (German keyboards are different apparently).I recommend against using the Haer'Dalis romance mod. He's insufferable. Someone was taking a philosophy 101 course while writing that one and it's excruciating.
>>521208558Thanks, I saved the suggestions. Reply again if any others come to mind, I appreciate it. I also believe we're basically on the same page as to what we'd like or dislike from mods, so it's helpful to get a bit of tailored suggestion. On that, should I do SCS and Ascension? I didn't do Ascension for BG1, I don't recall why, and the way I handle difficulty is staying on Hardcore unless some encounter feels tedious after a few failed tries, so I'm not into ie Legacy of Bhaal or "that" kind of "challenge". If Ascension adds more interesting behaviors to AI I would pick it up but if it's not an interesting kind of challenge I'll skip it again.
Is there a way to raise my sight radius in BG1? Seeing 5 meters ahead of me is genuinely painful.
>>521210035Zoom in more
>>521208042I think they just wanted the player to pay attention to their own fort and the war effort. You do spend all of Act 1 in Kenabres, so why aren't you sick of it yet? But more seriously, the city would have to be under construction basically all throughout the game. So if there were "city streets" and interiors maps accessible after Act 1, they'd have to change and update as the game goes along to reflect that the city is being reconstructed. That would be an insane expense in terms of game development budget and there's literally no plot-relevant point to doing so.The knight commander has their area of interest running the crusade and constructing Drezen and leading forays deeper into the Wound. I hate to tell you this, but I think the problem is you. You need to stop looking back Kenabres and pay attention to the actual story instead.
>>521210179Incredible! They can see all the way to the edges of the screen now. Nothing shall escape my sight. Thanks, anon.
>>521209581Thanks again. I give a bit of leeway for writing, I'm enjoying NPC Project for BG1 after all... As long as it doesn't go too far off the tracks or really show the writer's hand like you say with fanfic. I don't know if I'll mess with anything that's known to be buggy, I get paid to deal with that kind of nonsense and don't suffer it in my leisure, at least as much as I can avoid it. I also have written down that the De'Arnise romance fits well, and that there's some "Spellhold Studio friendship mods"
>>521210179dumb zoomer
>Almost mid-April>Still no news about RT second DLCtypical owlkeks
>>521210858they're tariffed AND sanctioned. It's over for the ruskies
>>521211000based trips
>>521210340These are just excuses, this kind of "things have to be the way they are because they are the way they are" thinking. I actually have the same complaints about Drezen, which is where you say we should be focusing. It's a very boring and soulless experience walking around Drezen after the very first time.
owlcat will now be forced to move againwhere should they go?
>>521211000trips of truth. ITS OVER
>>521210428I don't know if you're sarcastic but your response made me laugh. Anyhow, this is literally how I play and it makes it more enjoyable. I sped up camera movement controls and had them be WASD which made me put the spellbooks as C and V iirc, but anyhow, I think it's a much more pleasant experience zoomed in to about there.Otherwise, search for a mod, I'm sure it exists.
>>521142783speaking of high stat blocks, Why did they nerf her stats?it's not like they are that much op given her class
>>521204809>You wouldn't dream of using a king's scepter as a club.sure would. >profound failures of ancient 2nd editionyou sound like a faggot
>>521209945SCS / Ascension are polarizing in a certain way. The community agrees, I think, that if you want "difficulty", they're mandatory. If you don't want to spend hours trying to understand what just happened when the blue dragon wipes your entire party in less than six seconds of combat, you probably should skip it. He's right that it's all "legal" in the sense that, mechanically, the NPCs are all playing by the rules (other than a little bit of fudging to in some cases where enemies arrive "pre-buffed" for combat by having buffs get insta-cast triggered when they spawn on top of you), but the reality is that ... oh my god, munchkinry is not fun at the table and it's not fun in a RTWP crpg. I've done it all the way through a few times, and now I ain't got nothing to prove so I don't use those mods anymore.They do add "interesting behaviors" in the sense that enemies use a wider variety of spells and are more intelligent about how they use them. And the author was even skilled enough to take into account that some mods will remove the "cheese". But if you're still using a game that allows Improved Invisibility + immunity to divination and stuff like that, it's infuriating. There's a lot of things about 2nd edition D&D which just should never have been.One of my favorite mods makes heavy armor give less AC and instead give physical damage resistance - so that lighter armors give you a lot of avoidance but heavy armor give you a lot of mitigation. After I revamped / smoothed the scaling a little bit to suit my personal install, it works very well to accomplish the feeling I was going for, even into ToB.
>>521211149chyna
>>521211149India
>>521211501>Con 26imagine the breeding
>>521211543I'm torn. I could try it but keep the difficulty even lower than Hardcore. I'll probably just use SCS, as that's felt good to me through BG1. That armor mod sounds interesting.You seem like a cool dude, we are now best friends.
>>521211501>>521155613>Able to out-wrestle a work animal or catch a falling person\>Very graceful, capable of dodging multiple thrown objects>Virtually tireless, practically immune to mundane illnesses and diseases>Genius-level intelligence, may invent new processes or uses for knowledge>Can sense when a person is upset (lmao)>Renowned for wit, personality, and/or looksjesus christ, Arue will birth a super soldier with those stats.
>>521210546Well, they're certainly not My Immortal levels of bad. They're just a bit of RenFaire as I don't think she really had a good grasp of the game's overall writing style. Ajantis says "my lady..." a lot. Kivan mopes and broods melodramatically a lot, but in his defense, he seems to actually miss his dead wife, which is more than could be said for fucking Jaheira.If you get Kivan's most recent version, I don't think there are any bugs. Ajantis' Windspear Hills map isn't bugged it's just that you need to remember to not accidentally leave the map by clicking on the edge of it to see the world map until you get the miniquest resolved and you have Ajantis with you.Haldamir's dialogue loop might have been fixed by now, but AFAIK it was only one single response option you could select during a conversation in Spellhold. Trivial fix, but it was wild when I found it.I haven't found any bugs with Faren.
>>521186820>Yeah, Wenduag isn't ugly,lol, lmao.
>>521211139No. Things have to be that way because you aren't gonna pay $120 and wait a decade for the game to come out.It's not a complete immersive simulation for you to live an alternate life within. Technology is not that sophisticated yet.Sorry, boo boo, but you're in the early 21st century. Not a fucking Star Trek holodeck.
>>521186820lmaoeven when you're romancing her, the rumor is that you're fucking her because you have some fetish for uggos
>>521212191>practically immune to mundane illnesses and diseasesso Arue doesn't have aids from the meatball?
>>521211943I'm running a few little dungeons on Roll20 using (modestly modded) Pathfinder 1e tomorrow. Table still has seats available.
Why don't Owlcat go back and fix Kingmaker and add all the QoL? Lazy fucking ziggers
>>521201318Tips on how to play it? I dont get burn so I just had them shoot lesser empowered basic attacks. The damage was fine but below what a dedicated archer can achieve.
>>521211543SCS / Ascension is difficulty, without the quotes. It's just not interesting difficulty if you're not into mage wank.
>>521212937no, just cum
>>521213182Because Call Of The Wild and item crafting mods beat them to it. I'm still low-key irritated there isn't an item crafting mod for Wrath.
>>521213182Because they dont have the pathfinder license anymore retard
>>521213182they can't, they don't have the rights to it anymore. And it's not a pathfinder thing it's something between them and the KM publisher
>>521211000But Russia is the only one not tariffed though... Is Mishulin a penguin?
>>521213771>sanctioned for being russian>tariffed for being in cyprusits never been more over for owlkek
>>521211000Truth. Trump explicitly tariffed them because of them not releasing another Pathfinder game. They sow the wind, now reap the whirlwind
>>521213230Kineticist targets Touch AC. Against bosses, they're infinitely better than any archer could ever be if you are playing on any difficulty higher than Easy. Especially because Owlcat forgot that buffs using the creature's HD for their caster level means it's impossible to dispel enemy buffs.The thing to know about Kineticist is that your basic bitch abilities don't cost "burn". You can spend Actions to reduce Burn cost, basically spending that time "powering up" like Goku. Say you are willing to spend your Move Action to gather power so that you can blast with your Standard Action. You toggle that one on, and then your Standard Action blast will cost one Burn less. This means you can apply some kind of modifier to your blast which will do various special things. Like make it affect a cone or cause entanglement or whatever.Alternatively, you could just pimp out your blast and accept the burn cost without spending extra actions. But you obviously can't do that forever, because Burn will kill you if it stacks too high.So Kineticist trades action economy to reduce burn they might suffer. They can stack modifiers on their blasts to pimp them out but these extra tricks cost burn. You can heal an unlimited amount of HP because it doesn't cost you spell slots or anything. Just spend extra actions "gathering power" to reduce the burn to zero.
>>521211442I was being sarcastic at first but I seems zooming in does actually help somewhat. Pulling the camera back makes everything seem incredibly slow.
>>521213257It's definitely hardcore magewank. The author was a munchkin who only played mages. To be fair, the engine has a limited flexibility to apply much complexity otherwise. Things like procs were a concept in game design at the time, but the Infinity Engine just couldn't really do that elegantly for warriors without applying such things as effects to weaponry. Which, ironically, would have been at least as tedious as modding the enemy AI and spell sets.
>>521213146Nah, too shy, sounds fun though.
>>521213471>>521213563Do they not have the license anymore because Paizo got fucked / threatened over the OGL for PF1e?I think Paizo is reluctant to do anything with PF1e anymore because 1: it's an "old" product now, and 2: they want to push their "new" product, PF2e which is garbage but is similar enough to D&D 5e that Zoomers might accidentally pick it up, and 3: PF1e has fallen out of favor with gamers because it has a reputation for being exploitable / breakable by bad faith actors.
>>521213146Can i join? never played tabletop btw and don't know how to play roll20
>>521214785it has nothing to do with that they were unable to update KM even while they were working on wotr
>>521211149My bedroom.
>>521212191
is she an EE addition? getting an off vibe.
>>521215298yes. anyone with voice acting and a differently styled portrait is a beamdog addition. my advice is to recruit her, take her gembag/potion holder and then kick her ass out
>>521214897It's a "tutorial" environment in a lot of ways.https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/420576/tiny-dungeonsYou need Discord and a microphone isolated from background noise. PF1e is freely accessible from any SRD on the internet like this one:https://www.d20pfsrd.comIf you're an itty bitty babby, I've pre-generated some characters for noobs to use if they prefer that.
>>521215453more voice acting than usual*
>>521215298Yes. I hate her.>>521215453She's also a Wild Mage, so there's like... a certain urgent malice warranted while kicking her ass out.
Lorelet here, why didn't that stupid Emperor just write down his will in some bible if all he wanted was for humanity to stop being superstitious retards that worship religion?
>>521215453I see. I told her to hit the road on principle because I don't associate with wild mages in any game I can.
>>521215687What makes you think he didn't?
>>521215298Yes but no more offensive than Tiax, Minsc, Jan, or Aerie.
>>521215687Lots of things desu.>Humanity got broken up and lost contact with each other>Goge Vandire happened>Inquisition happenedIt's basically schizophrenic though.>I am an all powerful entity and I demand your submission and respect>Don't worship me though
>>521215887I will not tolerate criticism of Jan Jansen. He is adorably zany, not annoying or stupid. And furthermore, he is by far the most useful non-combatant character in the games.
>>521215687The Emperor was a fucking retard who didn't understand humanity despite trying to lead them to a golden age. He did tell everyone not to worship him or anything else but 10,000 years without a primarch or the emperor to lead them led to some bad habits forming. Girlyman got ultradepression after waking up and seeing the Imperium.
>>521215687His son lorgar who is super religious built the religion around emps, even after emps told him he isn't a god, before he turned heretic and worshipped the chaos gods (because he's religous). Emps ideally doesn't want to be treated like a god, but during the unification crusades he didn't prohibit lorgar and his legion from converting planets to their brand of emp worship, he really only cared that those planets bent the knee and joined the growing imperium. he ideally wants humanity to see him as an achievable natty leader, he wants humans to evolve up to his powerlevel, but he's also had to make a ton of concessions (and some pretty dumb moves) in an effort to reorganize and strengthen humanity so they can survive long enough to even begin to evolve to emp level. you can kinda see space marines and primarchs as speed-up stepping stones to what emps eventually wanted every human to be (a psychic ubersmench like him)
>>521215970He was not a god - and it shows. Because of how ridiculously mundane his perspective was and how hilariously juvenile was his understanding of human nature. His "plan", such as it was, was no more sophisticated than any frat bro comes up with while drunk off his ass and bullshitting with Chet and Tristan at 3am over a stinking bong. Even garbage like Sam Harris could probably come up with something better.
>>521215687The E in Big E actually stands for Ego.
>>521215887Tiax, Minsc, Jan, or Aerie never made "ewww you smell" jokes toward Viconia. Almost as if you can be a simple or innocent character without being a cringe randumb Mary Sue.
>>521215496>pre-generated some characters for noobsanon this is the crpg general. if you recruit someone here you better believe there's gonna be a monk dip.
>/crpgg/ actually playing tabletophey cool I wanna join
playing rpgs with 4chinners must be some circle of hell
>>521211000>Trips zero It's over...
>tfw never played tabletopI’m shy….
I've played tabletop only 5e with family though
>>521165412Get Maneha and get rid of HIVarias
>try unfair>go back to core after 20 minutesEvery time.
>>521218269Based critter
>listen to rumors>"there's a madman called Bassilus in the wilderness with a 5k bounty on his head. ask the local priest for more info">ask the priest cause I need more info>"yah so there's a madman called Bassilus and we'll give you money if you do him in."amazing. thanks.
Small pillars spoilers incoming Sooo what was the deal with the Adra giant under Caed Nua? If I remember correctly it was shaped by Od Nua. But it isnt chiseled, it was "grown" using ancient methods? And he created it so his son would have a vessel when he came back? But the statue contained many other souls as well, as adra seems to do So what is up with the statue?
>>521204809>You wouldn't dream of using a king's scepter as a club.That's a sceptre, not a staff.>Imagine the pope using the papal ferula as a quarterstaff...Why not? It's probably like +3 against evil outsiders and undead. And the original priestly stick, the shepherd's crook, was certainly meant to be usable as a weapon, if the shepherd needed to defend himself from wild predators.>to use a magical implement for vulgar melee combat would be to irrevocably profane the implement such that it would never be useful for magic ever again.Abject nonsense. Any witch who argues that you can't use a real sword as a ritual sword because it's "unclean" needs to get her head out of her ass.
>>521219176The Engwithans were technologically advanced with soul and Adra manipulation. It’s a lost art but is something they were able to do. As for what’s up with it, play deadfire.
I get anxious when I begin a new CRPG because I fear that my character build will be sub-par.
>shows up>sabotages an otherwise successful diplomatic mission >kills herself the second we free herWhat the FUCK is her problem?
>>521212620>>521212881Well okay, I admit that freakish spider legs are not traditionally considered beautiful. Maybe she's kind of unconventional.
>>521220197>playing best DLCFinally. WM2 is kino
>>521220197Faith.
>>521219893That is a good thing. Then you can brag about beating the game on "hard mode" and sneer at the shitters playing meta builds
>>521219176Adra is the conduit where souls move to and fro to the wheel of souls, it's also "natural" and can be grown but no one knows how to do it anymore.
>>521202078because the wizard staff is a catalyst for channeling magic and the quarterstaff is a bonk stick
I mean, they dont have eyesBut this is not what I was expecting. Though I suppose I was already shown them in the western tower
>>521220989KINO INCOMING
>>521220989*grounds and pounds your entire party.
>>521220989>Overrides your good ending if you don't finish WM2Genuinely kino.
>>521220989Major kino moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOoQtb2APBA
>>521220989>objective >surviveHoly fcking kino......
>>521221228Ninagauths shadowflame, thank me later
More Anons in /crpgg/ have played Pillars than have played Pathfinder.
>>521219176In ancient times, the Engwithans didn't just create the gods, they also created bodies for the gods. Most of the gods abandoned their bodies at some point as a kind of mutual pact they made among themselves to stop interfering so directly in mortal affairs. Eothas parked his under Caed Nua. Eothas resumes inhabiting it at the start of PoE2:Deadfire which launches the events of that game.
can't leave this lvl1 limbo fast enough
more like>objective>don't fall asleep
>>521222593That one spell is the only one you will ever need for both games. It literally wins the entire fight every time. It's so OP. Only grease can compare just because it's level 1 so you'll use it until you level 4 spells.
>>521222789This is how it felt to play my Paladin in the first hour of Pillars of Eternity.
>>521222990Yeah I found the spellbook "early" on in part 1 but refused to scribe it until I killed my first dragonI wanted to earn it. I currently have it as a mastered spell and its a bit silly
>>521222593>>521222990>Nigganauth'sBroken nonsense. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to have a fireball that can paralyze at iirc, the same level as a regular fireball.
>>521222621Because PoE predates both PF. PoE1 came out in 2015? PoE2 was spring of 2018. PF:Kingmaker was in late autumn of 2018. Wrath was 2021.More people know of Josh Sawyer and Obsidian than Owlcat.
>>521222789low level pillars fighter vs any enemy
>>521223345It's not the same level. Fireball is level 3, Ninagauth's is level 4.
>>521222789update. there's some sort of vampire dog (?). burying an axe in his skull doesn't faze him. time to advance in the opposite direction.
>>521223379That's because PoE1 is overtuned, especially early on.
Is BG3 patch out yet?Is RT DLC out yet?Is PoE TB patch out yet?
>>521222997>>521223379>t. thought melee can dump perception
>>521223860No, no and no
>>521223345The aoe size is the most crazy partIts a fast and large aoe paralyzecall to slumber is resisted by half of the enemies in the game and is average (i.e. slow) to cast While not dealing any damage. Meaning its mediocre compared to a level 4 spellBut then again, confusion is also a level 4 spell Gaze of adragan, confusion, shadowflame, wall of many colors, chaotic orbThe wizard is just a broken class desu
>>521219287Anyone who thinks magic is real needs to get their head out of their ass. But you don't get to decide anything about their fairy tales just like you don't get to decide that it's impossible for the Death Star to blow up Alderaan.>That's a sceptre, not a staff.They're the same things. One's just longer than the other. They're ceremonial symbols. They are not weapons. You're hung up on the size of the thing instead of recognizing their purpose and symbolism.
Yrliet....don't listen....>>521180516Dark envoy has an engineer class, and one of the advance classes builds turrets and drones.The three shadowrun games also have engineer and drone operator classes.Rogue Trader lets you be from a forge world and you choose a technological implant/upgrade for yourself but you can't continue to make more of those changes throughout the game, it's just a backstory thing. There are lots of cool laser weapons though, and one of the party members is a tech priest.
>>521223929One of the most important things about POE that Josh Sawyer correctly saw as a problem in D&D, honestly. In POE, all your stats are relevant to anyone in some way. You can't just dump everything but strength. There's an actual reason why each number is on your sheet.Once you see it, you can never enjoy D&D ever again.
OH FUCK IT FOLLOWED ME OUT WHAT
I guess giants are real
>>521224751KINOOOOOOOO LORE INCOMING
>>521224751It's not fair...
>>521224000Slumber is terrible because it breaks if you hit the victim. Fucking garbage spell. It should be level 1 while Grease is moved up to SL3. Confusion is strong in the first game because it works like D&D confusion where the victim behaves in a random, uncontrolled fashion. In Deadfire, it's garbage because all it does is make your spells affect all targets without the yellow friendly-fire radius. This is essentially irrelevant to enemies and human players already have to aim their spells carefully to exclude allies unless you use the most important mod in existence to eliminate the obnoxious and fucking stupid let's-kill-all-our-friends red zone. Gaze and wall are just shitty versions of Shadowflame. Chaotic Orb would be cute as a level 2 spell, but it's only barely better than Chill Fog which you start the game with.Basically the ranking / organization of the spells is a fucked up mess with no real balance between them. It's a ripe target for modders to rebalance but no one has any interest in the games anymore.
POE ANON DO NOT LOOK AT THESE SPOILERS"Made it."Why is Abydon so based???
>>521224751Why can't I remember anything about this game?
>>521224082There's mods that let you play as a tech priest as your main character.
>>521224996unironically, what was ondra's problem??
>>521224996he based. Only g*d to actually care about kith. Eothas is a fraud who thinks he does, but Brobydon took a hammer to the face and died for everyone. He's the POE Jesus
>>521225130we told you not to drink from that strange pool in the temple, man
>>521224968Sure but it is an aoe hard cc spell and targets a different defenceConfusion is strong but makes enemies into allies, which means you have to be careful when using aoe buffsAnd grease can hit your team which can occasionally be a problem if you are using a lot of melee charactersIts also the only non paralyze hard cc a lot of enemies are weak to, like the annoying greater ice blights. You can charm those but I prefer unconscious since the can hit your team while charmed if I understand correctly
>>521225201engwithan lust
>>521225130Because it was literally an entire FUCKING decade ago.... oh my fucking god we're all gonna die and there's nothing anyone is willing to do to stop it
>>521225130It's the second DLC, so maybe that's why
>>521222789rtwpiggies call this gameplay fire
>>521225130you were probably snoozing through it like everyone else
>>521200035Seelah, Ember, Arueshalae, Lann, Regill, Sosiel, and Trever if you bothered to get him.
>>521222789the SOVL... I kneel...
>>521225201I mean. Have you seen her?
>>521225578I could take her
>>521220245Based spider fucker
>>521225285Confusion does not make enemies into allies in either game. Cloud Of Bewilderment has a chance of charming and has an icon similar to confusion.As an aside, the only person getting hit should be Edér, especially in Deadfire. Everyone else should be ranged because there's literally no benefit to being melee. The only reason to put another person in front is for the fights where you're getting swarmed by sheer numbers - but only because enemies can't all "fit" around Edér to hit him, so they will eventually spillover and target someone else they can reach. CC will prevent that. Edér is literally invincible in the Deadfire. I don't think even the uber bosses can actually kill him just because of how insane the fighter regen is in top of whiteleaf and maybe a ring of regen if you find one.In the first game, enemy AI is less predictable and gear / class features aren't as insane so before level 5 or so he might need a support tank to help spread some of the damage out.
>>521225413Turn-based would sit there for hours waiting through the initiative order...
>>521225578Is that female nipples?
>>521226436Yes those are breastages. She has a few sets all the way down.
>>521224516managed to nick all of this stuff and get away thanks to Jaheira casting Entangle on him. seeing him pop up at the end there got my blood pumping. terrifying beast that was.
>>521222789>hp barsGo back to Diablo 4.
>>521226072It does? It has a random chance to turn enemies friendly (green healthbars)And when they are friendly they get affected by spells like protection, devotions of the faithful, blessing, dire blessing etcI am playing through the game right now so I am not misremembering I also disagree with the premise that melees are badFirst of all, barbarians are quite good. They deal a lot of damage and can clear out fights when buffed. Paladins have an accuracy aura, liberating exhortation, the best revive in the game (if you want it), a solid group heal in healing chain, sacred immolation for constant burn damage to enemies and healing to your team. Pallengina is currently vital in keeping my team running smoothly even if she isnt the best tank or damage dealer.My cipher has crazy melee damage, the second highest damage on my team overall after Aloth. When buffed by time parasite and the accuracy from crown of the faithful he is dealing 30+ damage a hit and stacking focus nearly instantly. Aloth can go in melee with citizals martial prowess and or spirit lance alone and be very decent Having a nearly full melee party lets me lock up enemies in groups for debuffs and group buff my team easilySpells like iconic projection, shining beacon, devotions of the faithful are crazy value even if cast after startingSure, you can do much the same with 1 melee, but its so much easier to play like this
>>521228046Pals and Barbs don't have to be melee.
I like not knowing what skills and abilities a class can unlock so when I level up it always feels like a surprise!
Amiri tummy
>>521219019You get more by talking to him and even more if you can get a charm on him before talking by invis/sneakActually a whole lot of NPCs have specific thingsif you talk to them charmed. I do believe that they go hostile when coming out of it though so make sure you're never dealing with them again, or put them to sleep or knock unconscious if you have to.
WHEREISTHEFUCKINGROGUETRADERDLC?
>>521230345I would never even think to do that. It's his bounty. He wants me to succeed. Why the fuck he withold information on purpose?
I wanna smooch her.
>>521222692This is wrong
>>521222692I was under the impression that he hijacked the statue and it was made for some other reason at a totally different time. The bodies were supposed to be destroyes, not "parked".
>>521230421I came here into this general into this moment specifically to ask this question. Where the FUCK is the FUCKING dlc?
>>521230925Yeah. The titan bodies were made by the gods but most were destroyed by themselves as part of a pact but some gods kept theirs in secret Wael. Eothas was an oppourtunist
>>521230421Cancelled
>>521230516Oh excuse me, I meant on Bassilus
which dolly is the most satisfying to kiss in poe 2?
>>521231380putting a wig on Aloth and bullying him until Iselmyr comes out
>>521231380Iselmyr whilst Eder watches
>>521231380Sawyer is a incel, since he cant get laid he made all dollies unkissable
>>521230745Play Deadfire. You'll learn about it eventually.>>521230925They were all supposed to. Some of them didn't. Wael, in particular, kept a really big one beneath the Black Isles in the Deadfire archipelago. If you play through that DLC you get the option to power it up and ask Wael to help you fight Eothas in Ukaizo. But it's really frustrating that it doesn't matter because it's like two sentences of "they fought and Eothas won anyway" at the end. Very fucking obnoxious. I haven't played Avowed yet, but it's still irritating that the entire game is pointless since the outcome was predetermined to negate literally everything you've done in the both games all combined.You might argue that that's the point - to show that the gods' selfishness and egotism trample upon mortal lives with such careless disregard. I guess, ok, that's the main "moral of the story" from both games. But still.
>>521231380Maia
>>521231906>kissing a racistwtf bro
>>521231968she's literally me
>>521231743Especially his Mary Sue Edér who looks like him by no accident. And then it came out that he personally put the kibosh on any romance of Edér because he considered him to be his personal character. It's no surprise that the writing completely contorts around him - he's the main character of both games. And it's so fucking blatant. You don't even need to see the interview where Sawyer rambles about how he hates magic and it's too powerful and players shouldn't be able to use magic at all... Butthurt D&D fighter incel made an entire system just so he could make fighters invincible and mandatory.
>>521232190Sawyer looks nothing like chad Eder.
>>521232190holy based i love him now
yikes
>>521231202
>>521232190>turns eder into a step-father to his dead ex-girlfriends son (of another father)what did Sawyer mean by this
>>521232431I do find it odd because the pussy cravings for Eder are high. He was the the most requested romances
>>521232431what would (you) do? kill a kid?
>>521232568>pussy cravingswhat an inelegant way to put it
>>521232742but accurate
Sawyer is responsible for world hunger, tariffs, and making your dolls unmoochable
>>521231889>they fought and Eothas won anywayNot really, Wael manages to drag him down but the wheel is broken so it doesn't matter.>>521232630>KidPretty sure whatshisname was in his late teens. He can take care of himself. Imagine needing to be the foster parent for every orphaned kid you find.
>tfw eder will never turn my watcher into his personal broodmare and fill caed nua up with a legion of his blonde childrenwhy live
>>521231380Aloth
Warrior Yrliet or Corsair Yrliet?
>>521232945Wife Yrliet
>>521232190>Sawyer rambles about how he hates magicSawyer legit hates everything. Turn-based combat, romance, classes, magic.... why is he like this
>>521233214the most brilliant minds are also the most troubled
>>521232742he gets their flesh pits slick with mucous
>>521231146Not just an opportunist. He's the most conceited narcissist of all of them. Also the most conniving and manipulative, even more than Wael, Woedica or Skaen. At least given what's depicted and described in the games. The worst thing Woedica or Wael have done is work to hide the artificial origins of their "divinity". Meanwhile, Eothas plots and schemes for centuries to completely override all of the others just because he believes that he alone has the correct understanding of things, and he's dead set on literally killing all life on the planet for the sake of his contrived sense of morals.And as Woedica commented, all he had to do was wait a little bit for the "experiment" to actually have a chance to reach a conclusion. He would have gotten the outcome he claims he wanted if he'd just waited... *IF* he actually did have the faith in mortals that he claimed he had. If he feared that mortals wouldn't succeed, then killing everyone surely couldn't help. So all his bullshit moralizing when you talk to him is just that: it's completely horseshit and lies.He's the most hypocritical and conceited of all the gods, by far. Just like any other narcissist, he doesn't realize you can see right through him. He believes either he gets what he wants or the entire universe should die and there's no other possible route.The posturing and pretense about being compassionate and kind and caring about mortals more than the others? BULLSHIT.Each of the others are very actively involved in making the world move towards development, though they sometimes disagree about the best way forward in details. The only thing Eothas does is murder hundreds of thousands while giving a gaslighting, condescending smile. And then ending all life on the entire planet. Unless mortals can... CONSTRUCT THE FUCKING WHEEL ALL OVER AGAIN.So what was the point, Eothas? What was the actual point, really?
>>521233214Because he knows that he never will be to top dnd.
Tried fighting the monks for fun and yeah, I am glad I didnt have to brute force my way inside to put it mildlyLets hope I dont have to fight my way out :)
>>521233214RPG brainrot
>>521233214>>521233247He only had one brilliant idea, but it wasn't even his. He just quietly acquiesced to a criticism of D&D that'd been around for more than twenty years by the time he designed POE. Specifically, that all ability scores should be relevant in some way to everyone, regardless of class.All the ideas that he himself personally constructed all turned out to be failures. Like the disposition and reputation systems or the naval combat in Deadfire. Fucking garbage.
>>521233214I've seen a bunch of interviews with him and he doesn't come across this way to me at all?Is this some weird dogpile meming?It does seem like some people get frothing about Pillars whenever anons are enjoying it
>>521233627>disposition and reputation systemsThis is good though, it puts morality on a subjective basis, which is what it is.
>>521233341>The worst thing WoedicaWell... she has committed many genocides. All the gods are fucked except based Abydon. But yeah, the story with Eothas is an interesting one. He's a nice god but not a good one. The beast of winter DLC with St Waidwen was interesting especially with their relationship. I think Eothas intentions are good, but he's the horseshoe theory to Woedica. Both are batshit insane in what they want.
>>521232820Eothas directly states that he's planning to just leave the world after ending reincarnation completely - abandoning mortals to the aftermath of the disaster he's causing. So Wael dragging him down was probably just that Eothas left and the inert statue wasn't fighting back anymore. The other gods in other conversations comment that mortals might have a two or three generations left to get things fixed before all life on the planet dies.And Eothas just left all that. Is that really the behavior of a virtuous hero who really believes in what he's doing? Break everything, guaranteeing that everyone you claim to care about will absolutely suffer horror, misery and death? But it's misery, horror and death that you won't even be around to witness because you plan to leave the planet entirely forever?Baern was a young man, so possibly early twenties even.
>>521233705>It does seem like some people get frothing about Pillars whenever anons are enjoying itNoticed this too. Odd behaviour
>>521233508Abbey of the fallen moon? Such a fun but hard level.
>>521233925That's not what's broken about it. The problem is that the only thing it actually does... is give you a 10% discount in shops. Shops that you don't even need because you get plenty equipment and consumables by adventuring.No one reacts to you based on your disposition - other than to comment "oh you're known as level headed, so surely you can agree with me that we should enslave the Roparu!"There's no way to participate in the slave trade. You can't lead a Roparu uprising. You can't actually do anything morally. The most significant moral choice you ever get is whether to unblock the adra pillar in Poko Kohara or whether to murder the slavers. But you can't just leave the slavers alone and buy slaves from them. You can't take slaves and sell them to the slavers.The idea that morality is subjective just is not supported by the game.Instead, you get a system that acknowledges people like you when you're nice... and otherwise doesn't use terms like "good" or "evil". But it's still a game very deeply and pervasively about morality.
The reason the DLC is not coming out is because all Owlcat employees died in Ukraine. The ones in Cyprus died of sunburn months ago (russians can't survive the sun)
>>521232190
what the fuck is this
>>521234002I liked his interactions with St. Waiden in Beast Of Winter because it very bluntly draws comparisons between Eothas and Jesus. Successfully examining how both characters are profoundly perverse and poisonous in their treatment of mortals, stemming from an absolutely cosmic level of narcissistic conceit. It's also a very psychologically realistic depiction of a young man's mistreatment by his insane cultist father and the attempt to cobble together a more constructive worldview in the aftermath.Waidwen failed to become an atheist because, well, the gods are very actively real in his world... and he does not know the gods weren't gods at all, that they were artificially created by the Engwithans. Otherwise the correct development of his character wouldn't have been so tragic.
>>521235192nevermind I'm stupid check the date.
>>521235192Is this why RT dlc 2 isn't coming out
>>521235192>it's real
>>521235164
>>521232630the highest intelligence birds let the imposter cuckoo offspring drop
is enemy placement static in neverwinter nights enhanced edition? oc campaign and i swear there was more people in the same room but when i reloaded there was 5 instead of 7 or 8, i only have my summon with me all time so its not party balance thing
>>521232431Hopefully he meant that even a flawed and traumatized man like Edér is a better, more compassionate and forgiving father figure than Eothas could ever be.
I don't remember. Were you actually even sure it wasn't Eder's kid? It's not like the kid would actually know
>>521235843Yes, the kid knew his father before he died and the ages don't add up.
>>521235843Eder says he knew his father before he died
>>521235843I think somewhere during that quest it comes out that his age is roughly close enough that he could be Eder's kid, but Baern says something like his father left after they got to Hasongo?
Should modern crpgs include this advanced option?
>>521236058what is NTR?
>>521236058What is NTR?
>>521235192>get in-game purrency for finding bugsCheeky fuckers they are.
Imagine dedicating your life to improving crpgs as a genre only for some 4chan loser who hasn't showered in 3 months to claim you're a hack
>>521167057WOULD
>>521236058>No, I do not want to see NTR content.>99% of Arue's romance doesn't show up
>>521236058Yes, unironically.
>>521178409Except the ones that are obviously based on backer photos. those are terrible
>>521236962The definition of taking a concept way too farThey could have just made her generically slutty, but they had to go the extra fucking mile
>>521237250>too farunless they're animating Isabela giving titjobs in hawke's mansion to strangers, they haven't gone far enough
>>521237208Pillars isn't that bad about those. Shadowrun is the one where it gets ridiculous
>>521236058Yes they should. If you click yes when this pops up the game bricks and becomes unplayable cucking you out your money like the bitch you are.
>>521237395Owlcat and Larian players in shambles
Holy fuck these monks are toughTheir defences are nuts and they just teleport to you
>>521237627Brutal but best map
>>521188530The fuck you talking about? dragon age, bg3 and dos2 have them
I hope wfrp game has a high elf wizard husband you can annoy like you can Aloth
>enter Nashkel>retard asks me to save Dynaheir>walk down the road literally 20 meters>edgelord wizard asks me to kill Dynaheir>retard doesn't reactlmao
Stop pretending to like Shillers of Shiternity
>>521238134Mafia City but crpg
>>521238469This, but rogue trader. Half the game is loading time
>>521238134I wonder what happens if you rescue/kill Dynaheir before going to Nashkel
>>521238469>poe patch announced by a very desperate obshittian >suddenly an influx of anons who pretend they like poe I am noticing...
>>521236058
Why are owlcucks so insecure?
>>521230538
>>521239257Someone talked about another game. It's basically the same as their favorite fetish.
>>521239340If that was the case they wouldn't have complained about it
All I know is that no pillarschad does cringe baneposting
No one likes CRPGs in generalWe're all just pretending here
>>521239903this. this general is just a one big roleplaying game. on the computer.
>>521239257>>521239340I love both PoE and Owlcat's games with a similar degree of fervor. I like the writing of Kingmaker a little more than Wrath, but the companions are awful. Wrath has Sosiel and Trevor, setting it head and shoulders above Kingmaker in that regard. I wish Deadfire's companion dialogues were less Disney trash, but its gameplay systems are pretty polished and it's a far better balanced tactics game than PoE1 or Kingmaker.I want to love Rogue Trader. I do. But the limitations on character creation are excruciating and the companion variety is like... You have Heinrix and Abelard and no one else is worth remembering their names. Except that dark elf guy who apparently you could recruit if you just wanted to completely ignore all lore and plot to get a subpar melee for some really stupid reason.
>>521236058>weg in forever beta that will never be finished and moves at a snails paceits just like my crpgs also clinoha has the best scenes
>>521235164https://vocaroo.com/1bVVvlSbm824
>>521239903I'm just here for smooching
>>521240306please don't feed the schizo delusions
>>521240306Stop this bullshit, no one believes you
>>521240228>and the companion variety is like... You have Heinrix and Abelard and no one else is worth rememberingReally? I thought RT had the best owlcat companion line up by far.
>>521240306Why was this deleted?
>>521240582this sans yrliet. I'd be disappointed if the deldar wasn't a degenerate fag
This took me foreverThe only way to deal with it was perfect everything, no time wasted or mispositioningPre buffs from food, a trap, wall of many colors placed very precisely (the game does not like to place it like I did Aloth couldnt buff himself before the monks arrive so I had to give him dire hit even though nobody else in my party was attackingThen I throw on boon of the mighty and pain link and it actually kinda worksYou cant have Eder blocking the doorway against monks, they get over youSo they need to keep busy far away from youTrying to walk forward to cast shadowflame isnt going to work, youll get engaged on. All you can do is cast a spell like freezing pillar without giving them line of sight
>Wrath has Sosiel and Trevor, setting it head and shoulders above Kingmakerbait used to be believable
>>521240738Probably a self delete, since shit like >>521239234 is still up
>>521239234look at how smug shadowheart ishnng
>>521240756Yeah, Yrliet and Kebab are the worst. Yrliet is poorly written and unlikeable, and kebab is non-existant. The rest are very fun to have around, even if some of them are not particularly deep characters. As for the dark eldar, I recommend just ignoring common sense and recruiting him once, he's pretty funny. He honestly would have been a main stay in my group if it didn't require me to completely throw roleplaying out of the window
>>521240582They're mostly serious and they have more insightful things to say than the PF games, usually.My main problem with them is that they don't... really... have a reason for me to care about them. Like. They just sort of appear on your bridge. For some reason. And they accompany you on adventures. For some reason. And they demand you solve their problems. For some reason. Listen, bitch, I'm literally a king who owns a few dozen solar systems and commands wealth on a scale that LITERALLY means I don't pay for anything. I do not fucking having time to go to the DMV and sit through the epic line for days or years at a time just so you can get a permit. Especially not since you're a sleazy, slimey smuggler engaged in trafficking shit that would get you - and everyone who ever knew your name - ionized if the inquisition found out about it. And the only reason that parasite is clinging to me is that as a Rogue Trader she's sheltered from that horrific death by my name.Like. What... is in it for me? What the FUCK are you doing for me, bitch?At least Heinrix and Abelard are competent and supportive.
>>521239234
>>521231889You’re wrong. I played Deadfire, you’re just wrong
>>521241359Nice pantaloons, H-man
>>521239234>Shart laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good">"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"
>>521241415No, you're wrong. I literally just watched the ending slides a few hours ago. Try reading next time.
>>521241654What are you doing here
>>521241654hot
>>521241573They'd be nicer on the ground.
>>521241679The body under Caed Nua wasn't Eothas'. It was a project by some obsessed king for his dead son, which you would know if you did the endless paths in the first game. I was just convenient for him to use
>>521240259The art was nice so I decided to pick it up
I'm starting off Arcanum and trying to go for a gun + explosives build, how would I pull that off? Also, is there anything worthwhile to check out in Shrouded Hills other than the mine before I blow up the bandits and move on?
>>521241747anon, this is a crpg general, we are currently staying on topic and don't need "pick me" anon derailing the general
>>521241343>Like. They just sort of appear on your bridgeNo everyone has a reason for being there. Sorry you have a short attention span and can't read. Also you have a free pass to do almost anything even dealing and trading illegal shit. And yes Jae is a parasite and you should probably drop her or shoot her in the head after meeting her since she's completely fucking useless story-wise. You do more for her than she does for you. Same with the eldar.
>>521241654Halsin hits round 2 with Shadowheart, churning that goodberry pie he already left in her into a frothy goodberry porridge. Tav sits nearby rocking back and forth, squealing in anticipation, ready to slurp it down eagerly, though still a bit queasy from all he's ingested so far today.Breathing heavy from the exertion, the archdruid Halsin dismounts Shadowheart and steps aside, revealing the sticky mess he left in her, dripping out slowly.Tav is still feeling unwell from the previous batches, so starts backing away. "Oh, you aren't quitting now, are you?" Shadowheart teases, casting Command: Eat.The rich, sweet taste of goodberry and the musky scent of Halsin's thick balls mingle into an intoxicating blend in Shadowheart's damp and sticky Grove.The mixture has a presence that infiltrates Tav's very pores.Finally Tav retches, it's just been too much druidic seed... yet still, the feeding frenzy continues.>hrmrmmmnfhrhgrlrlgm mmm yum good yes yes good berry mmmgrllrlkfrjmHalsin and Shadowheart look both disgusted and highly amused. "Nature's bounty" he says to her and she laughs
>>521241654i daydream about multiple women at once all the time but i'd never cheat in a relationship. am i cucking my girlfriend?
thread imitates game imitates art imitates writer's life
I posted the NTR thing as a meme because I found it funny, i didn't want to unleash this autism I'm sorry
>>521242142Is it cheating if she fucks your clone?
>>521242319You deserve this, but the thread didn't
>>521242334Does she know it's a clone?
As Halsin and Shadowheart fall deeper for each other, he takes the lead as the MC running the party. His team rarely includes you so most of the game is sitting at camp with Gale and the pets and Withers asking about your relationship.Cut scenes with them sharing a tent, laughing and playing all through the night while you try to sleep next to "gassy Gale".The game proceeds this way where you get to hear about all the things they're doing in the world until they solve the crisis and live together in marital bliss, hiring you on as a caretaker (since you weren't involved much, you aren't entitled to much of the spoils)"I'm.... I'm really happy for you two" you manage to get out with a weak smile at their weddingThey smile politely and look at eachother"Oh, Astarion! Ahh, please do excuse us" Shadowheart says, leading Halsin away as you try to look casual standing alone by yourself.
People often complain about Yrliet, and with good reason, but Jae is honestly pretty bad too.Her first meeting she asks you to help her commit crimes. Then her questline is asking you to abuse your authority to make her an imperial official, when she hasn't really done anything to earn that and she's a known criminal and profiteer. Then one of her ending slides is that she randomly starts beef with your assassins and tries to murder them all for no reason, while they graciously and patiently allow her to live simply because they didn't get orders from the emperor to kill Jae, which actually proves that they don't do thing for self-gain or convenience, they are loyal and obedient to the Emperor even when it inconveniences them, so she accidentally proved their legitimacy through her effort to destroy them, meaning she is fully in the wrong.
>>521242640stop posting my wife anon
Comfy thread ruined
>>521242738I don't even know if the cold trade is illegal when you're a rogue trader, and I doubt she had you touching anything worse than the stuff you make cargo out of
>>521242319the butterfag effect
Can't decide what to do with the Phylactery of Stevanius the Rotten, as a ring, both versions seem cool and helpful. I think I might go with the second where you can sacrifice health to give allies a bonus and change their weapon damage to force. But also the first one is so cool, once per day when you drop to 0HP you get 2x level in HP and some undead buddies are created
>>521242738she gives me profit factor (and I played before the dlc happened and jae had a hateboner for the cult). I heard that if you take her on the dlc quest it becomes pretty clear why she hates them. because of the human sacrificing
/bgg/ expat here, can you keep your schizo on a leash, thanks
>>521242738She's the games "best girl" her stats and skills that she gets her freaking second to none. Despite just being a low rank(her past) smuggler. I get it she learned a lot of stuff on her way up, but come on.
>>521243164both of those sound like ass desu
>>521243276she's a skill monkey for if you dumped int
>>521243273What the fuck
>>521242319This one wishes you would kill yourself.
>>521243398I'm sure he has a perfectly reasonable excuse for keeping that on his computer
I set the lower levels freeProbably not a good choice, either for the ones down there or meBut I want to spite Ondra, such a cruel god She robs people of everything and so that "mercy killing" them is the kind thing to do. Its fake morality
>>521243390Her gunslinger perk is freaking ridiculous. It actually upsets me a little that we can't have that cuz that's how I would build my character for my crime Boss.
>>521243338They aren't amazing but I do like interesting effects and often pick equipment, spells, and abilities based on it being interesting or not. I think I'll go with the self-sacrifice and force damage one since over time I'll have more undead around that I can consume for HP too, the extra skeletal champions aren't worth it.
>>521243772You've done well. I don't remember the details but Ondra is a fish faced cunt who doesn't deserve anything resembling happiness. If she can even feel such a thing.
What are useful weapon proficiencies for a stalker in the original baldur's gate games?
>>521244234always dart
>>521244234run a fighter/thief instead. also scimitars
>>521244315'stalker' = badass and fun'fighter slash thief' = gay retarded, you will never feel cool looking at your character sheet
>>521244294Figured one of the bows would be better for ranged options desuAlso planned to go elf so the early +1 to hit is niceThough I guess darts add strength to damage>>521244315Yeah fighter/thief is kinda the same except better but I much prefer the flavor of stalker
>>521244234Anything that can backstab I imagine. Probably not quarterstaff since as a ranger you have some incentive to use two weapon fighting, but quarterstaff are still good in terms of there always being a decent one around. Longsword, and daggers are probably the most common in terms of there being a decent one at every given stage of the game. In BG2 Scimitar is also good. Katana has that +3 one you can get from invading some guy's home whenever you want.
>>521243197Meanwhile, I hate them because they're fucking ugly and disgusting degenerate religious fools only barely controlled by the insane babbling of their psyker prophet. Maybe not quite as repulsive as the dildar, but certainly among the worst of the factions you might encounter in the game.And absofuckinglutely not welcome on MY fucking ship. Do you have any idea how much it would make the ship *stink* to have that much blood and corpses ... um. Uhhh.... Ah. hm.
>>521239308The year is 2025. The effects of baneposting continue to reverberate
>>521244467fighter/thief is the official Conan build so your argument is invalid. get out of here, stalker.
>>521242858they need to get rid of romance or at least get rid of the devs cramming their fetishes into it>>521244967>... um. Uhhh.... Ah. hm.cringe
>ranger in bg1/2Big yikes
>>521245371Personally I wish they went completely off the rails with their fetishes in them, but just not THAT one
Sawyer should just write every game ever if we're being honest
>>521245423Archer is goated tho
>>521245542As much as I like his dubious morals and existential rambling, sometimes I just want the dollies to kiss.
>>521245547I just wish there was more variety in level infinite ammo items. Managing arrows sucks
>>521245542lmao, fucking blizzard writes better shit than he does
>>521245845no
>>521245547Because archer is basically a ranged kensaiEven then throwing dagger kensai is still better and fills the exact same role
cutest droids
real time with turns, or pause based?
>>521245845.... I have my critiques of Sawyer, but... no. Anon, no.
>>521242738Factually wrong. Jae gives plenty of benefits both mechanical and roleplaying-wise, and her writing isn't pants on head retarded
>>521245836Managing arrows means you can change your damage to match the target's weakness. There are infinite ammo quivers in the game, too.But let's not pretend that opening your inventory page is so difficult. If you're running vanilla, you're opening your inventory to identify stuff frequently anyway. If you're running modded, then you can change the stack size and most common overhauls and fixpacks already give you 120 arrows in a stack. Which will literally last you for hours of combat.
>>521247636None of the facts they cited were wrong. Literally none.
>>521247026real time with CRINGE
>>521242738None of her crimes are actually something than can affect your rogue trader and making her an imperial official is both beneficial and easy, that quest being some shitty comedy is what makes the process seem like a pain.The dlc has shit writing and the cult just sucks desu.
>>521242738>help her commit crimes>abuse your authority >criminal and profiteerwow this is heckin terrible stuff...
>>521242738>asking you to abuse your authorityYou literally have to jump through hoops and suck adminitrstum's dick. how's that abuse of authority?
>>521242996it is illegal, because there are no legitimate, legal customers for xenotech within the imperium. the inquisition and mechanicus have legal ownership over all of it so they don't have to pay.
>>521247636Nothing I said is untrue anon, and your accusation of such makes you a liar. You can subjectively like the character if you so choose, but do not start lying about it.I also don't care at all about gameplay mechanics. We're obviously talking about story. It doesn't matter if she has unique perks or inflated stats to try to get you to use her or like her.
>>521244967they predicted a genestealer uprising without even knowing what they are, their use of the emperor's tarot is clearly legitimate. they are proven right several times within the story.
>>521248042The dlc is fine. The only bad writing is the part where the genestealer cult didn't attempt a takeover while you were in cumragh, and kebab's non-character
>>521248617>The only bad writing is the part where the genestealer cult didn't attempt a takeover while you were in cumraghTaking out the Magos, their crypt base and the Kellermorph and the subsequent crackdowns probably weakened them enough that they needed to build strength again.
>>521248423If you're talking about the story then nothing she asks of you is law-breaking, especially for a rogue trader. And as a rogue trader she is beneficial to you as someone who has actual contacts within xeno-artefacts trade
Castlevania crpg
>>521248573Ok? Are you trying to imply that he's not an insane, babbling prophet?
>get stuck in cage>half naked jedi comes and rescue youatton had it so easy
>>521248975It's not insane if it's true. Being a crazy religious person grants you protection from outer-dimensional sentient entropic entities and gives you abilities to save others from them too. It's not a universe of rationality.
>>521249128So are their bodies held mostly in stasis in those things, or are they just standing in a tiny cage for absurd lengths of time?
>>521243273>someone made this unironically
>aguing about writing in 40slopliteral 'nuances about ponies' tier
>>521249418MLP writing mogs 40k writing easily
>>521249418Could Ulfar handle a carebear in a fight?
>>521248140They indeed are bad things. Someone interested in improving the state of their protectorate would not engage in them. >>521248371Play the quest again. You use your status as Rogue Trader to nominate her, someone who would never have had a shot at the position if it weren't for you.>>521244967You are mistaken. They foresaw the genestealer threat before they knew what a genestealer was, and they take actions to slow the genestealers which proves instrumental later in the conflict. Many of them also died in the process. This proves that they are not rambling crazy people, and it also proves that they are devoted to the well-being of the ship and of humanity.Additionally, when Jae begins her campaign against them, they do not take the easy target to end her meddling, because the emperor doesn't tell them to kill her. Meaning they put up with her meddling because of how loyal and disciplined they are. She is trying to murder them, and they only dodge and parry rather than just killing her because the emperor didn't give them orders to retaliate and end the threat.They are legitimate.>>521248818Yes, every thing she asks you to do is law-breaking actually. You are mistaken regarding what the cold trade is. All of it is illegal. Just because you as Rogue Trader get to ignore laws doesn't mean it's actually legal. The right to ignore laws does not retroactively make what you do legal in the literal sense. She also asks you to help commit crimes before she knows you're a rogue trader. If you go incognito, she learns you're a rogue trader during the heist. She you're mistaken about that too, she was willing to make you complicit in a crime before she knew you were immune to the law, which reflects poorly on her character.
>>521248573The only problem with the cult that i have is that i can't hand them over to the inquisition because they're a bunch of unsanctioned psykers. i blame it on owltards not knowing jack shit about the setting thoughI also take offense that you can have a psykic awakening half-way through the story and Heinrix doesn't say jack shit about it
any fun later consequences for bullying the skeletal merchant as lich besides making him drop coins?
can't this nigga just say "used goods" instead of writing retarded essays
>>521249826>can't hand them over to the inquisition because they're a bunch of unsanctioned psykerof such a low level that the inquisition doesn't care. there's death cults everywhere and they all do the same shit with predicting the future, the inquisition know what's up with them. >psykic awakening half-way through the storythis is true
>>521249810>You use your status as Rogue Trader to nominate her, someone who would never have had a shot at the position if it weren't for you.Then don't do it, if you have a problem with it? I don't unerstand what your compaint is. That the game allows you to actually make use of your position as a rogue trader? You can ignore her, or shoot her for being a criminal if that's your jam
>>521249808i'm more interested in a wulfar vs vyatt wolf fucking contest
>>521243273I never understood the appeal of this fetish
Attempt number 100Surely this time Aloth wont get interrupted with 170 concentration right? Surely they wont crit prone my entire team, spawn clones in the middle of my group, resist every cc spell before buffs and instacleanse any I land while dealing 100+ damage in a single second to Aloth and hard focus him down no matter where I place him
>>521249995>of such a low level that the inquisition doesn't care.Not at all. The inquisition cares about all latent psykers and actively hunts them down. It was mentioned in the rule books. And here you have a whole bunch of them huddled in a place that is regularly exposed to warp energies. What could possibly go wrong?
>>521249313I think they're just standing around, which seems quite torturous
>>521250242nothing, because it's not a particularly unique death cult. death cults attract latent, low-level psykers and their existence is tolerated because they're so useful. the inquisition doesn't 100% follow its own rules, who would've thought. a crazy puritan witchhunter might go after a death cult but the majority of inquisitors wouldn't.
>>521250441That's what it looks like to me too. I only question it because it's strange they don't say anything about that.
>>521250030Refer to my original post. My complaint is not the ability to do so, my complaint is that the Rogue Trader community always shits on Yrliet, while someone who is also pretty bad seems to get a golden ticket from criticism. Jae does bad things and takes advantage of the RT in various ways, and is a bad influence on your protectorate in various ways, but nearly all of the negativity is focused on Yrliet. Not that Yrliet doesn't deserve it, I'm commenting more on the lack of it regarding Jae when she deserves some.
>>521250602hard to hate someone you don't remember
>>521249810jae doesn't care that they are "legitimate" she hates blind zealotry and the fact that the cult are a bunch of assassins that kill on blind faith. it makes more sense considering she's a guardsman deserter
>>521250602literally no one thinks about jae and her recruitment borders on dead last
>>521250450>because it's not a particularly unique death cult. death cults attract latent, low-level psykers and their existence is tolerated because they're so useful.The difference is that this death cult is on a void ship>the inquisition doesn't 100% follow its own rules, who would've thought.Not my problem. There should have been an option to complain about them to Jimmy, and for him to tell you to not get your panties in a bunch if he thinks you're overreacting>>521250602>my complaint is that the Rogue Trader community always shits on Yrliet, while someone who is also pretty bad seems to get a golden ticket from criticismOh, so you're retarded, and have no idea what you're talking about. The community shits on yrliet because she's a badly written mess and her antiques land you in cumrag while not contributing anything to your cause. Unlike jae who doesn't do anything to undermine you or your protectorate while actvively contributing to your endeavors
>>521250821They are legitimate, and Jae doesn't care and does what she does anyway against a group of legitimate and helpful people. Thank you for agreeing with me that Jae is the bad guy in this scenario and that it's strange she doesn't get more flak than she does from the community.
>>521249283Those abilities are literally drawn from that outer-dimensional entropy, anon. Like. Famously, ALL psykers are channeling the Warp. Whether they're seeing the future by reading the Emperor's Tarot or spraying fire or reading minds and poppin' brains like water balloons, they're channeling the Warp.And they are *EXPLICITLY* defined - like as in DEFINED - as insanity that allows them to do so. It's a pretty foundational principle for the entire setting, anon, and it's explained in literally the first five minutes of the game.
>>521251115I wish you could interact with the real jae without the shereen bullshit more than once. her (true) backstory is really interesting and could have made her a more interesting companion if more was done with it.>>521251234being dogmatic =/= being "good". they are a crazy murder cult and aren't infallible
>>521249808No dice
>>521251225There are lots of death cults on various voidships. That detail is not relevant at all. That anon is correct that there are many death cults, and many of them use tarot or other esoteric means of choosing targets. The particular death cult that is on on your ship proves many times to be not only accurate, but also faithful servants and extremely helpful. Your ire towards them is misplaced, and now you're saying random things to try to justify it, like the fact that they live on a ship instead of on a planet.We've already gone over the ways Jae is a bad influence on your protectorate, as well as the ways she was willing to make you complicit in crime before she was aware of your immunity, as well as the way she asks you to abuse your authority for her self-gain which far outweighs the benefit to yourself, as well as her efforts against the cult which saved your life and makes your protectorate safer which is in fact an example of her acting against the best interests of you and your protectorate due to her personal emotions.It's a fact that she's a bad influence, but you turn a blind eye and repeat much of the same misinformation about the cult that she does in-game, which is funny.
I hate games where rping as a mercenary yields strictly less than a good guy
>>521250602Jae is easily the last popular companion and r*ddit constantly whines about her being some kind of rapist
>>521251627Pretty sure the entire game's main plot revolves precisely around how dogmatic == heinous evil of a scale, scope and intensity that is difficult for the human mind to fully comprehend and that it has been the sinister plot of the Ruinous Powers all along, literally for more than a hundred thousand years, and that the Emperor is a nascent Chaos God still evolving and will bloom into full divinity as a Chaos God of tyranny and fascism eventually.
Here's every 40k plot setting detail from the imperial perspective>something incredibly fucked up that appeals to edgelords>some convoluted reason why it totally makes sense and definitely isn't the result of some psychopath/corruption/whateverYou don't need to have this conversation about every little thing
>>521252048>jae is bad because shes a bad influence >because she's a smuggler and asks you to help her become a legit traderanon her quest is about her cutting ties with being a smuggler and starting out fresh as an honest trader (only to get btfoed in the credits by an unamed rogue trader because grimderp). your really just complaining that the smuggler character acts like a smuggler
>>521252354You forgot the third point - that the tortured rationalization of incredibly fucked up shit is an additional evil of similar magnitude.
>>521251627I didn't say dogmatic = good. This is a complete non-sequitur that is not related to anything I said.What I actually said is that the cult proves to be legitimate, helpful, and loyal to the emperor. They save your life, the lives of countless of your crew, and they are never shown to be mistaken about anything. Which means Jae's crusade against them is illegitimate, and founded on an illogical emotional reaction to them being edgy, or the unproven potential that they might some day be wrong which hasn't happened yet. Jae is, in fact, the instigator in the conflict and she is in the wrong. She is trying to destroy a helpful, legitimate, and loyal institution on illogical emotional grounds and maybes. She is the bad guy in this particular conflict.
>>521251345The insane people in 40k are the ones who try to deny the warp, not the ones seeing and understanding (admittedly a fraction of) it. The Imperial Truth was absolutely delusional, while embracing faith and limited use of psychic mutants has protected humanity for ten thousand years. Yeah, being a psyker does make you conventionally nutty in most cases, but that's just the trouble in a species and culture that tries to suppress such things. You don't see the Eldar being crazy despite all of them being psykers, it's not something inherent. The four options, in-setting, are deny the warp (delusional, has never worked), use the warp (successful even if dangerous), embrace the warp (fate worse than death for 99.999...% of people) and delete the warp (only works for necrons, and living beings become soulless husks because of it)
girlyman fucking the elf was the only interesting that happened in 40k, and that's only because it made people who take their dollies seriously upset
>>521252554So we agree that sanity is a socio-cultural construct and that all psykers are insane by definition. Because humans are the only ones who use the concept of "psyker". Glad we got that sorted out.
>>521252728>Because humans are the only ones who use the concept of "psyker"Don't tons of aliens have some sort of "mystic" social role that does psychic shit?
>>521252607>girlyman fucking the elfThat's a complete meme. In all actuality they have a common enemy and are still very suspicious of each other given their peoples history towards one another. The elf is just being friendly to butter him up is all.
>>521249808>homosexual filled with seed versus mobile laser platform
>blood god>shows blood>sex god>doesn't show sexhmmmmmmmmm warhammerbabs?
>>521253108gw is even more aggressively marketing to regular children instead of just manchildren and slaanesh is a liability that might get them called noncesthe mandated damage control is>le excess and secrets :^)
>>521253108>"actually slaanesh has very little to do with sex and it's about excess like drugs!"
>>521253336I have a hard time seeing actual children being a significant customer base, they don't have money. Surely most warhammer purchases are done by 30+yo
>>521252880Yep and the majority of those xenos worship chaos gods or are just total assholes, slavers, dangerous monsters. You name it. Which is why the Imperium wipes them out. Humanities xenophobia is quite justified in that setting.
>>521253108This is a problem across all media in general including grimdark stuff. I play hentai games to get my fill of settings that aren't afraid to have sexual elements.
>>521253574GW markets to children to get them interested in the setting via the side material. Once 40k occupies some brain space and gets steadily reinforced by youtubers, memes, novels etc they might eventually become a paying customer and if not, might convert someone else into it.
>>521253108>>521253432It's everything. Emotions, senses, addiction, you name it. Turned up to x1000.
Abelard is the only decent companion The others are retarded and/or betray you
>>521253336I don't think it's purely their new audience attempt. Look at owlkek and the lack of rape in cumrag.
HOLY FUCKING KINOONDRA ETERNALLY BTFO Memories make us what we are whether we like it or not and our problems don't go away if we close our eyes. They are what define what we have lived, our time in the world. To take that away is to throw anyway life itself, no matter how painful it will be. Even if the cause of your pain is out of your control you must still remember it, as hardship makes us grow stronger. If you don't face yourself every day despite the discomfort you will not grow and improve. Few good things in life are easy and nothing ever gets better by letting it fester
Bolt of Justice doesn't seem fair to the demons
>thought Pathfinder games were an all fully slav product>reading through Avellone page on wikipedia>turns out he was the narrative designer for both
>>521254062Ondra is worse than Woedica
>>521253108Novels are less shy about the whole cultists fucking stuff
>>521254093it may not be fair, but it is just.wait till you get the AoE version.
>>521253108Slanny isn't mainly about coom, it's just obsession and excess, for instance Lucius the eternal and co are obsessed with being perfect duelists, that pleases Slaanesh too. Bile's autistic dedication and pride makes Slaanesh happy too etc.
>>521254387So what if they're excessively obsessed with intrigue, blood, or disease?
>>521224751I get it nowThis is Abydon
>>521254062>>521254149All of those gods are anti-life in their own specific ways. Even Hylea. This was a core and central thesis of the games' plots and the pantheon's foundational design.
>>521253854Argenta and Heinrix are both fine. Idira doesn't try to betray you, it's an accident because she can't control her powers, so she gets a pass from me. Intent matters to me.Ulfar doesn't do anything really, he's on his own quest.Cassia doesn't do anything bad to you.Which means I only actively dislike Marz, Yrliet, and Jae. They're the only ones who are bad for you or your dynasty.
>>521253598>Humanities xenophobia is quite justified in that setting.LolLmao
>>521254596we didn't deserve him
>>521253108Nobody wants to open that can of worms. It requires effort, you have to take all the backlash, and then your project will be seen as a porn game, worse, your name will be attached to it, even worse, since it's slaanesh it will be in the upper echelons of degeneracy.>>521253846>>521254387Coom is the desire that rules over all other desires and the excess that rules over all other excesses.There is no way around it, realistically slaanesh would have LOTS of sex stuff.Sure, also cannibalism, drugs, gambling, you name it, but the sex factor is undeniable.
>>521253854I still love Heinrix. You can't make me not love Heinrix. Abelard should have been romanceable, though, by the way. And conversations with him sometimes reveal that he feels lonely and misses his family and family life in general.
>>521254703The only decent ones among them are (was) Abydon though maybe you fix him?, and Eothas (but he's a clumsy retard)
>suffer not the mutant to live>except that one who is super important God the imperium is so lame
>>521253615I wish Masters Of Raana had gay male content. Instead of wasting months of development time specifically to remove it...
>>521254148How much of the game he actually wrote?
>>521252880Yes and none of them are similar to the human psyker.
>>521254513overlap happens, nurgle likes bile too
>>521252048Does any of it get me horrendously tortured in space detroit? No? Then I don't give a shit. That's the answer to your question. Go ahead and vomit another wall of text that I'm not going to read
>>521255119>don't kill>but yeah I guess those egyptians firstborn were kinda lame and gay anyway
>>521254708>Intent matters to meIf intent matters to you, then why don't you give Marz a pass? Unlike Yrliet and Jae, he literally doesn't and can't know better. He's a victim of so much. Yrliet and Jae fuck you over just because they want to. Literally just because they WANT to.
>>521255517Not that retard, but Jae doesn't fuck me over
>>521241679Other anon explained it to you and suddenly you go silent. Funny that.Maybe next time you won’t be such an as next time someone disagrees with you you’ll keep a more open mind
>>521255517>the serial killer is a victim uwuShut the fuck up, emder, or I'm gonna send you to Hulrun's
>>521255065Oh man, oh my god, fuck no. Of all of them, Eothas is the worst, by far. He just presents himself as super-sweet and nice while doing it. Even Skaen is a better "person" because he's just vindictive and resentful - as we all are. Eothas destroys the world and dooms mortals (while killing hundreds of thousands of them just in the most recent two attempts) because he's conceited and arrogant.Even Woedica, conceited and arrogant as she is, at least doesn't lie to you about it with smiles and gaslighting.Eothas is a fucking MONSTER.
Play a CRPG within the next 24 hours or lose your license to post on this general.
>>521255936Ok Starmer
>>521255936>lose your license to post on this general.>implying I ever had one
>>521255856I'm just pointing out how you contradict yourself, anon. Did you torture logic and bend over for Idira just because she's a woman who was crying?Be honest.
>shitters of irrelevanceavowed must have flopped hard if they had to back and update it
>>521255732Maybe you should play the game and read more carefully, anon. Bein' smug while verifiably wrong like that is gonna cause problems for you in life.
>>521255893Eothas doesn't doom anyone at all. He does what he does to expose the gods prior to Pillars 1 and in 2 he does what he does to cut them off.If you pay attention to the shit Thaos says, or just pay attention to the fucking ruins everywhere, it's a simple matter of time before the gods would say "Oops. They found out how to use copper again. Time for a reboot" and kill a shit ton of people ad infinitum. He also hasn't destroyed or doomed the world in the first place.
>>521255464>Ew, can you believe it? Those heathen Egyptians believe life began when a god masturbated into the river, literally seeding life upon the world.>By the way, our storm god spontaneously created life several times over the course of a few days...And just wait till you hear about all the incest. In the very first chapter of the book.But yeah, masturbation is a sin, y'all. And the creator of all Reality totally cares a LOT about which specific kind of porn makes you cum. Like. He cares even more than Texas does.
>>521256137I haven't even looked at Avowed. I discovered that it isn't even remotely similar to a classical squad-based tactics RPG. It's apparently a Skyrim shooter with followers and colors are all randomized with brightness maxed? Pathetic. Do better, Obsidian.
>>521256234The irony of this projection
>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeel..... come back...
>>521256365>"Oops. They found out how to use copper again. Time for a reboot"So they allow guns and shit, but using element Cu is a step too far ?
>>521256365If you pay attention while you're playing the game, the gods themselves explicitly explain to you that Eothas' actions will catastrophically disrupt reincarnation such that no new life will be able to be born once the reservoir runs out. Which will happen in two or three generations.Yes, reincarnation was a natural phenomenon before they existed. But after they constructed the Wheel to improve the process, it would not go back to the way it was before.When Eothas breaks the Wheel, mortals have two or three generations to repair it before all life ends on the planet.And Eothas knew that. And you know he knew that because he literally tells you so himself when you ask him about it.You can be forgiven for not catching this part since it's knowledge that kind of lands with little fanfare.Except for the half dozen scenes in which various characters react with shocked horror when you tell them about it after you get told by the gods.
is it true poe2 started turning a profit magically after they stopped distributing the profit sharing income?lmao
someone bake I don't want to do it again
>>521257036I'm referring to animancy, but yes. Guns don't impede on the god's monopoly
>>521257157on it boss
>>521254845Yea but they can't go full on guro, murder, cannibal, rape while trying to sell this stuff to the public. That's just too much for the average bastard.
>>521257103It's a solvable problem.
>>521257578>>521257578>>521257578
>>521257316n-nevermind
>>521256075I bend over for Idira becasue she cute and bullies everyone who's not Abelard
>>521256075>bend over for Idira just because she's a woman who was cryingnta and yes because I empathize with her being royally fucked over all her life. and she has fun bants
>>521257367... When the game ends, animancers are hated and feared and are having difficulty reliably attaching souls to automata to make funcitonal golems. Adra is being strip-mined because it's valuable for cosmetics and medicine and no one knows what it really is or how to make it. Rymrgand warns you that if he catches you or any other animancers makin' trips through the In-Between using the Adra, he'd annihilate your souls. And no one knows what the gods really are and their cults, both the secret ones and the public ones, are both ubiquitous and extremely firmly established.If you're gonna claim that Eothas really believes mortals can get rid of religion and surpass the pinnacle achievements of the lost ancient Engwithan civilization all in the span of forty years, you're even more delusional than he is.Reminder: most of those secret cults have been working for thousands of years to eradicate ALL the knowledge that might even be remotely tangentially related to what mortals would need to thoroughly understand in order to reconstruct the Wheel.And given the scale and scope of the project, it would require the entire planet to instantly stop literally all economics and devote ALL their efforts into reconstructing the Wheel. And as Woedica points out, that ain't gonna happen. Just the economics and logistics of constructing a city-sized machine is an absolutely INSANE task given the technology level available at the end of Deadfire. Neketaka has a population of 100,000 people. Let that sink in.
>>521260484Marz was fucked over for his entire life in much worse ways and apparently for centuries longer than Idira ever was...
>>521250202This fight made me rage like no other during my PotD run and it made me despise Ondra and her cult, but it felt amazing when I finally beat it.
