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>flanderizes every character until they become a caricature of themselvesIs this what people want? Streamer reaction bait?
>>3898538Reminder>coomer shit in games they likeEmpowering>coomer shit in games they don't likeMisogynisticAnd because Cloud crossdresses and also gets to be shirtless, VII is forever safe.
I've never seen a game's quality decline so quickly as the gongaga section>plot goes retarded>time ghosts again>chicken clanger
>>3873940Except that pattern is real, you're just stating the reason for it. The big issue is that the western comics eternal IP model is being applied to all pop culture.
>>3881815Thanks sir capita
>combat clunkier than KH almost 25 years later>they dont even know how many parts they were/are gonna make>preorder bonus on the first one was a Cactuar summon>oh also we ruined summons>bounty board>3 hour interlude about dating Jessie when everyone and their fucking mom knows Cloud is for Tifa and Yuffie is for ME
I'm so fucking angry. I'm actually still shaking after this heated debate with my friend. I told him I finally beat a retro RPG staple that's over 40 years old and had the audacity to fucking tell me I didn't really beat the game because I played it on modern settings. I played it fair and square It was literally built into the fucking game. Yes, I played the Wizardry remake. Literally games that old are not even fucking playable. I don't have grid paper. I'm not going to type out spells. I'm not going to learn coding to learn how to play the Apple 2 version or even the DOS version because fuck that. Yeah, I know the SNES version but no automapping unless I spam that stupid spell. Don't get me started on the PS1 version absolutely ugly. Wizardry discussion thread. No gatekeeping or toxicity. They need to just make a proper remake with the entire trilogy. The Five Ordeals are stupid to not include not even as DLC. Digital Eclipse are not making a sequel.
Cause of this thread I played Wizardry (NES cause I liked the graphics the best) with grid paper and no automapping and it was actually pretty rad.Actually doing my own tracking and cartography made me feel like a proper adventurer, and working out dark areas, spinners, teleporters, and the like was a great puzzle. Died a few times cause I got a little too hasty and delved too deep and got lost, which I've never experienced with automapped games.I need to find more games that require physical notation now.
>>3899634Every single drpg?
>>3899705I'm pretty new to the genre but all the ones I've played before required no note keeping or mapping. Even Etrian Odyssey, which is typically held up as a modern example of mapping, doesn't really expect that much from you.I assume I just have to play more old ones.
imagine lacking confidence to a degree that someone can gaslight you into thinking you didn't beat a game you just beat
boomers be like>well back in the day see you got yerself a piece of paper and drew a mapok gramps we've got computers now, no need to jerk off over the technical limitations of the past
It's that time of year again. Was the negative backlash deserved or overdone? Through the various updates and changes post-release - has YIIK redeemed itself?And most importantly - What the hell is going on?
>>3900167The game is a fart in the wind.
>>3900167>>3900170I think people like to ignore that this is basically the giant whose shoulders E33 is standing on top of
>>3900170Nope, you just hate it because it's indie and gives off woke vibes.You just want "muh chad protagonist".
>>3900175Alex is the chad white male protagonist that doesn't care about other people's feelings thoughbeit
>>3900178You know how 4fags attribute everything to looks thoughThey don't care about muh character analysis (unless it's the popular ones)
After being told it's greatest game over and over again I finally decided to give it a shot. To my surprise not only it wasn't any good, it was downright bad>No options to roleplay. All quests are linear and all "choices" are entirely superficial. (For example trying to help cowled wizards and killing devs snowflake NPC results in instant fail and that's the ONLY choice I had after 3 hours of playing)>Game assumes that I care about their NPCs and focuses it's story around them rather than player character. Attempts to kill or dismiss imoen results in GM telling you NO YOU CANT DO THAT! THAT WOULD INTERRUPT MY PLANNED CUTSCENE. This makes the story fall flat for me because I have no reason to care for her since I've known her for two seconds (I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstory. I also didn't like the fact that villain is being presented as le heckin hyper smart chessmaster who's playing everyone like a fiddle considering that he's actually pretty dumb but the game forces you to fail to advance the plot.>90% of the game is dungeon crawler combatslop which grows pretty stale really quicklyI might be biased since I played Troika games before playing bg2 and the differences are night and day. It's like hopping on Fallout 4 after playing new vegas. It's very sad that Bioware's design philosophy prevailed over Troikas because it's much easier to produce combatslop than design engaging quests and story that allows you to roleplay and affect the world in a meaningful way.
>>3899618Dynaheir wasn’t doing so great, either.
>>3899562Bhaalspawn Imoen would have eventually been hunted down like all the others.But I agree with you, she clearly was never meant to be one. She was supposed to be younger than Charname. Everything points to that, including how Gorion basically ignored her.
>>3899888Full house of truth. Anyway, it's just one of the many reasons why BG1 is better written than BG2.
>>3898909>>3899607I thought it represented elves and dark elves, but now that you said, it could be the former lovers
>>3899234>I don't think I know a single person who had Khalid in the party for example Khalid was a pretty decent option for a good-aligned fighter. A lot of guides mentioned buffing him with specific items and keeping him around. I didn't, but mainly because Jaheira was meh, and I was playing a RAN/CLE (which benefitted from the OG bugged spell progression), so I didn't need a second druid.
I just picked this game up because I saw there was a DLC for Sakuna and I love the rice goddess loli. Is it any good? I've only played RF4 and I loved it a lot, spent 100+ hours in it. Also general RF thread.
I picked 3 up on sale and I have no idea what the fuck is going on or what I'm doing.
>>3895384Fry higher and higherProtip: you have to get married to actually beat the story
>>3895384just follow the request board really from what i recall that that pretty much your guide
I have an extra steam key for sandrock, drop an email if any of you farmfags want to try it, otherwise I'll toss it on vee.It was from a reseller so I can't guarantee 100% it'll work, don't blame me if it doesn't.
>>3895364Not too bad
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The gameplay is fun but holy shit the graphics for xillia are horrible. It feels like this game has zero art direction and is just a bunch of soulless assets strewn across a flat plane. The towns, outside of the first one, are absolutely atrocious. And Sakuraba literally lifted samples from his other works and copy pasted them for this game's soundtrack. It just feels so low effort.It's really weird just how much better vesperia looks than arise, berseria, zestiria, and especially xillia. Why won't namco reuse the vesperia engine I just don't get it? The one they went with for xillia and after is eye cancer.Fuck I honestly think abyss looks better than xillia. There is not a single area in xillia that looks better than this.
>>3899072they need more than a remaster, they'd have to do a whole remake of the game - Legendia as it is is not a game worth buying, especially with 2025+ video game prices.You'd need to change the combat, the dungeons, re-voice everything, along with a complete graphical overhaul that people would expect from it. At this point they might as well just go and make Legendia 2 and do an entirely new game (and to be clear, I think this is actually a much better idea than a re-whatever)
>>3900143It's not like Tales is a stranger to remakes. They have rather a few under their belt. A Legendia R wouldn't be too unexpected. I almost would have expected it back during the Vita for them to do it up Hearts style. I'm actually rather fond of Legendia and I think there's a lot they could improve on to make it the game it deserved to be. As for a sequel getting off the Legacy and seeing life on the mainland has potential.
>>3900143I'd rather want them to give us the Tempest R that was teased. Seventh Chord were making and keeping fun Tales games alive after Xillia 2.
>>3899072>>3900143they can't do legendia again, all the outfits are too skimpy for current year + 11
>>3900143This, but I hope they keep it 2D. I would like to see a modern take on the 2D combat. But the game has some truly baffling design choices. Like the map of the legacy not featuring any terrain, making it hard to navigate. Or Shirley joining with fucking fireball of all spells. Having all the ducts only connect to the main city's but not each other also is an interesting choice.
>game is better than FFTI wasn’t expecting that. They took a lot of inspiration from Fire Emblem and in a good way.The story and overall gameplay is about as good as FFT while having actual strategy elements like in Fire Emblem.I hope they make another one like it.
>>3898440Well the fact that you used FE8 (a low hanging fruit) as your bad example means you are not being honest in the first place. Even FE1 is better in terms of enemy variety & map design than TriStratPlay more SRPGs before you make empty statements.
>>3898965I used FE8 as an example because thats the only game that has more enemy variety than just whatever classes the game gives you access to. I meant nothing you’re implying by it, you’re just trying to find any way to make your statements sound more “right” as some weird way of damage control.
>>3898711If you do new game+ all your items, characters, levels, upgrades, etc carry over giving the game a lot of replay value. You can also see your conviction values making it easier to recruit the characters you don’t have or get the endings/choices you didn’t the first time around. I would only do mock battle maps once or if you actually want to empty out the itinerant merchant shops and lionel so you don’t really have to grind otherwise. Definitely don’t grind for kudos, its not worth it, you will get enough as you play and the grind for it is miserable, they clearly did not intend for you to purposely grind this only try to get as many as you can when doing a map by going for the kudos objective
>>3898932I want a game based on the morality ending except it takes place in Norzelia during the Age of Blood and Salt, and the Scales fall into the hands of a mercenary troupe long after Serenoa and co have fucked off.
>>3899460>thats the only game that has more enemy variety than just whatever classes the game gives you access toSo you are actually being serious that you considered FE8 is what you consider "enemy variety"When there were even earlier games with better map designs, enemy composition (therefore "enemy variety")?
I judge a person's opinions on this game based on 2 things>did they read all of Nern's dialouge rather than skip it>did the like NernAnyway Lisa thread.
>>3899855>did theFuck, typo. Well I'll blame that on Nern's horse of a wife, god rest her soul.
you're so fucking boring stop trying to make this a generalfaggoteverything about it has been talked over to death, and all the "fangames" are dogshit too that no one should waste their time on
>>3900144Did the dev fuck your mother?
>>3900144DO NOT DERAIL ME WHILE I AM POSTING
>>3899855I skipped Nern (just pressed space over and over again)If he was not made to be a comic relief I wouldn't skip him.I don't care how obsessed you are with him, OP
What are some games where I can be a murderous lunatic?
>>3899780Porn is a massive industry anon, can't help it. And I'm sorry, but I believe in you. Ganbatte anon!
>>3899843>youtuber and celebrity voice actorsThat didn't bother me since I didn't know any of them besides Laura Bailey.
>>3900037Thanks!
Games with melodrama?
>>3900163Infamous is THE melodrama WIP game.
Discuss ye blobbers, dungeon crawlers and other assorted dungeon games in this threadRoguelikes and roguelites not welcomeRecently finished Makai Agito.Its a SMT clone made in RPG maker. It ran like shit despite that for some reason. Its on the easy side difficulty wise and the level design is serviceable. I would recommend it if you have nothing else to play since you'll be done with it in 20 hours or so.
>>3872116Etrian Odyssey is a popular all rounder option that gets recommended a lot. Maybe start with the third one.My top recommendation is Potato Flowers in Full Bloom.
>>3873475Can you beat the dark cathedral mobs at all? They're probably the easiest option other than going back to the last dungeon for a bit. Dark cathedral mobs also of the best items in the game you'll want for the superbosses, and the drop rates are low.The wandering brigade on the 20th floor of the main are good enemies to farm EXP on once you're strong enough but not yet if you aren't strong enough for dark cathedral trash mobs. There are two separate boss rushes in lower levels of the main dungeon that you can do once you can beat the wandering brigade without much trouble. Then you can unlock the four heavenly kings who are good exp farming options after that, the witch in the 4HK who spawns in the heavenly cathedral is relatively easy if you can clear buffs, and she is very good for high end EXP farming. Once you can beat them you should be about ready for the dark cathedral's superbosses.
>>3873475>>3900078*also drop some of the best itemsOh yeah and if you aren't I highly recommend picking up team flat chest. Ruri for a fighter, Maryan for a maid, Ikuno for a scout, and whoever if you want to use a mage, but I think magic users are not worth using late game in DT1. Those three together will get a nice AGI boost, which will make everything easier.
>>3857934>Bard's TaleDon't play old school Bard's Tale, play Dragon Wars instead. It's much the same game, by the same developer, except Dragon Wars is good.
>>3900081imo Nanako is the best tank in the game, though when you go for the TLB it's likely that you can't use the flat bonus because of the door restriction
Why are the old Personas (1 and 2) such niche shit? Not fun enough?
>>3897402The thing is those plots were a bit more urgent so you really couldn't have the calendar system. You could update the battle system and leave it as a more standard dungeon crawler and I think it would be fine. One of the interesting things about P1 and 2 was how the party always dispersed every time you entered a room or a shop, so you have a lot of places were you could talk to them so you could, in theory, develop some kind of relationship system that way. 1 even had a lot of player choice moments that either didn't matter much at all, or mattered a lot. It would be different than the modern persona style but I think I might not hate it. You could even really open up the wider city if you'd like to explore the second world better. And there's also the matter of how the incorporate the snow queen quest. P1 was kind of a weird game so a remake might be less of a remake and more of a whole new monster.
is there any p1 undub mod that restores the voices in the cutscenes? Not like theres that many to see anyway.
Horrible encounter rate in 1.
>>3899429Learn estoma
>>3854652P1 and P2 are actually fun though. Now if on the other hand...
A chud's dilemma. Which one LARPed it best?
>>3899605You did great work this year Juan, give Carmelita and your half dozen bastard children my regards.Here is a Wegman's charcuterie plate.
>>3899712Well yes, the OP said LARP.
>>3899594Caesar's Legion doesn't feel very roman outside shallow aesthetics. Their practice of annihilating anything resembling uniqueness and using the deracinated rabble as human wave fodder feels more eastern despot than roman.
>>3899813>Caesar's Legion doesn't feel very roman outside shallow aestheticsThis was literally the intention.
>>3899594The legion because they were LARPing meanwhile the enclave was actually the government.
Has anyone here played TOW2 and enjoyed it?How much better is it than the first one?
Games like this really expose those who care about narrative reactivity, roleplaying, and strong mechanics over pomp and cinematics.This game is RPG zen.
>>3866028The game looks stylistically ugly, and the characters will definitely be unlikable. If the setting's off, then RPGs don't work.
>>3866028Looks pozzed.
>>3898346>Games like this really expose those who care about narrative reactivity, roleplaying, and strong mechanicsAny idea where I can find one of those instead of Outer Worlds 2?
Filtered bitches are really crying about skill checks.... in a wrpg with regards to this game.... the west has fallen.
