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Any novels about niggas blasting tren, fucking transwomen and going insane?
>>24999848>Meanwhile, this became a best seller before being removed from Amazon (an actual banned book) and its audience is overwhelmingly white men.
>>24999810I told you to stay out of my room.
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>>25000545While self loathing homos with a raceplay kink are an unfortunate existence among all races, it‘s pretty funny that nonwhites will engage in slavery/colonialism/holocaust play while the apex of the worst among Whites have to invent YA dystopia knockoffs because there are no actual examples of White inferiority for them to draw on.
>>25000545Didn't know someone made a buck breaking fanfic
No country, this one, for old men
Is the Chinese Room argument literally the most pseud shit touted since the four humors, or what?>I don't understand X>therefore the human-level-intelligence I am operating, which by all other metrics can objectively understand X, cannot understand XAm I missing something here? If not, if it IS as catastrophically retarded as it appears to me, why is it lauded as some kind of Great Question on a par with Pascal's Wager or the Ship of Theseus? Is it just because it's comfortably pro-human?
>>24999719>Isn't the hippocampus the distinct part of the brain that handles long-term memory?No. Brain has exactly zero "distinct parts that handle" any element of the cognition. It has parts which are, when damaged, most likely to show loss of certain function, but in pretty much every case we know for a fact that performance of this function definitely involves activity of other regions in the brain, and this function can also suffer from those parts of the brain being damaged, and sometimes even from damage to areas that don't seem to be connected to this function in any way aside from this damage. And to make matter even better, sometimes the original area may get damaged severely without any loss of function whatsoever because fuck you. The ancient cerebral functional specialization theory you're invoking here was basically like using a screwdriver to poke holes in an open CPU crystal and looking at a display to try and figure out whether it's any specific core or the cache that is responsible for Windows Explorer. Hence the old iteration being scientifically dead and deboonked. The more up to date theory still operates with functional regions, but those specialized functions are way the fuck more complex and esoteric, like what we understand as "memory" being a product of approximately dozen such cerebral functions (with several competing classifications of these), and it also recognizes human brain as annoyingly much more flexible in it's architecture than it would be convenient for neat functional categorization, and still it's just one of the contemporary theories being employed in modern neuroscience.
>>24998069This makes more sense when connected to his theory of intentionality
>>24998765>There is no objective meaning, only subjective illusion.Yet you can never be sure of even your own claims under that system. The only remaining difference is whether you are also willing to admit to being intellectually dishonest by pretending to be certain anyway, or not.
>>24999830Selection effects are real whether you like them to be or not. Science is selective. Only science, not metaphysical woo woo gives us nuclear weapons, vaccines, stealth fighters, etc. Whoever fails to accept science will die off. Selection will lead onward towards the acceptance of science and science shows that concepts like free will and consciousness are folk woo woo just like demons and gods.
What's with the seething about "materialism" lately? Is it wrapped up in the faggoty push for a Christian revival (that is never going to happen btw)?
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>>24996905Did you know A.I. was so bad with his money that his accountant had an endorsement deal withhold payment for like 30 years? It was his only asset at one point.
>>24996875Well it looks like I'm no longer in college. Took one semester and its not for me. Time to get a job. I can always write about and read philosophy and history in my spare time anyways. No reason to appeal to a corrupted system.
>>24996875Every single idea I have ever had was articulated in a far better way by a person who died before my birth.In a sense it is flattering to be in agreement with someone who was vastly better read and more intelligent than me. In another, mine are unoriginal and unremarkable ideas. I re-invent the wheel, forever.When I was a kid, my father told me that I wasn't the smartest, and that what I said wasn't the cutting age of insight. But I always articulated elemental, basic things, that should be restated, and that was where I was useful.
>>24996875A short film, only a few munutes long, scored by the Wonder of You by Elvis Presley.Established a president, a general, whatever. He stands on a pink balcony over a crowd that shifts like an ocean. Slideshow of important events in this character's presidency.
Crazy how conservatives lost their minds over the Somali fraud scandal but said nothing when Trump launched 2 memecoins and made over 100 million or the multiple times he's been caught insider trading by putting out tariff threats on social media.
>Socrates >Everyone knows you>For teaching the youth>Wants you dead>Diogenes>Everyone knows you>Pisses on people, faps in public, lives in a giant barrel, insults you to your face randomly, aims lantern at people, says 'I am looking for a man' brings plucked chicken to Plato, Mocks Alexander The Great - Nothing Happens and takes it as compliment>Everyone loves him
>>25000248>Socrates>Kind of a dick>Diogenes>Absolute chad
>>25000314>He was killed for his political activites, not his philosophy.>wasn't accused of treason
>>25000491For the same reason they didn't arrest Al Capone for mafia related crimes
It's the same reason why most men will put up with a drunken mess degenerate as their friend before they put up with a fag.
>>25000371>nigga is saying the gods are like horsesglad they hemlocked his ass
Animal New Year Edition>Old:>>24990171>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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Can any present LotRheads inform me what of the middle earth stuff post Silmarillion is worth reading?Unfinished Tales/ History of ME/ the Christopher novels? Bit confused by it all
>>25000514Children of Hurin
>>25000514They're basically collected fragments of Tolkien's own writing.
>>25000478>shadows is the only one to not get a novel
>mom, make a big cup of coffee. I just downloaded Nietzsche's complete works
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>>24999150Okay I have to ask, as a tool to control clarity and flow, does "correct" grammar even matter? I wouldn't have read or understood it any differently if he had used a comma instead. I often feel most grammatical rules are pointless for people with expert intuitions about writing. Basically just easy excuses for critics to be noisy cunts.
>>25000418>people with expert intuitions about writing.This is not one of those people.
>>25000142Yep.
>>25000418>does "correct" grammar even matterObjectively, no.
>>25000097Use word
Kill! Edition.Stubbed >>24992485>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25000523You shouldn't take individual readers so seriously. One of the early comments I got was saying the whole story was retarded because the MC didn't immediately genocide the rest of the country to avoid possible future problems. It's a waste of time to even give joke replies to these kids.
I know this is a popular opinion here, but man is annoying how all RR authors pussy out of any sort of romance or horniness in reincarnation isekai.>hurr durr adult mindyet constantly remind us that your hormones are influencing your mind/decisions.I'd almost applaud the japs if they didn't have the diametrically opposite issue where they never touch the girl because muh purity.
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Current top RS has the most "low-rated" fictions I've seen in a while. Many sub 4.5 stars. Curious.
>>25000523You're getting one guyed by a retard who is probably skimming shit and lacks the mental capacity to consider context in a character's actions.Don't engage with the readers to answer questions that are answered within the story, they don't want to listen, and it only makes you look bad to other readers as someone who plays in the mud with the other toddlers.
99.99% of philosophical arguments boil down to “I don’t like X so X isn’t true”. It’s useless, self contradicting, rambling, schizophrenic nonsense.Is there a single book of which this isn’t the case?
>>24997078>good in the worldread philosophy
>>24997097Such as?
>>24996923actually they're entirely "X is true so Y is true" with an implicit "i want Y to be true". philosophy is concerned with the former, not the latter
>>24996923I find plenty of ancient and medieval thought to be extremely straightforward, helpful, and illuminating. The Divine Comedy is another great one because it's also a great work of art. The Phaedrus and Symposium are great too.
>>24997078>I think the only place to look is inwardType of nigga to abandon his own children
>be Michel Foucault>present thorough historical scholarship revealing that psychiatry has always been a pseudoscience and a form of social power>"tldr plus you're gay"mfw
>>24995929People going by hunches, vibes and gut feel is what is currently destroying western society.
>>24999856You are what is currently destroying western society.
>>24998086>I have destroyed my concentration to such a degree I can't parse several paragraphs of text without breaks: the postYou're the exact reason why /lit/ is shit, and the main reason why nothing substantial is written in the contemporary ages (since it requires concentration and mental reflection rather than grok one line summarizing of dense texts and complex issues into meme format easy enough for the Tiktok generation).And why you're you even here if you can't decipher an entry tier philosopher, offered to women and niggers in the humanities?>Contemporary societies require behavioural, psychological, and sexual standardization for proper functioning>Everyone who can't be normalized is labeled as some form of deviant and pushed to the margins of society and used as an example of wrongthink or some other It's simple as that.Want an even simpler, more memetic explanation?Trannies are the purest, most perfect example of Foucault's deployment of sexuality. >Boy wears heels out of curiousity>In previous age, it would've been considered as a transient folly>Now, it's a sign that the boy is an inchoate tranny>Now he is forced to adopt, through the efforts of his parents and the trans community, a set of attitudes and behaviours and modifications that are proper for a trans person>Now he is forced to associate all past example of men in heels as example of modern trannyism>He grows up and become a part of the trans community and will enforce the same set of attitudes and behaviours and modifications on other boys who out of curiosity decided to wear heels, touch Barbie dolls, watch MLPComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24996017Are you the Estonianon?
>>24998086I dont like Foucault and >>24997956This anon makes a few errors, but youre unbelievably lazy, if you dont want to read a quick paragraph, fine but please dont speak on behalf of us 'litfags'. Id rather have pseuds effort posting than lazy retards
A good 95% of independent bookstores aren't actually for people who read, they're for tourists and rich "shop local" liberals who like the "cozy aesthetic", and they mostly sell trash that you could get on Amazon for 50% cheaper. I hope Bezos puts them all out of business. Fuck you and fuck your locally owned chunguscore Instagram bookstore. Let only the true, used bookstores owned by some 90 year old who clearly doesn't want you there survive.
>>25000000lol
>>24986590Not my local bookstore. Mine is a hoard of used books spilling off shelves. Sometimes even the cashier desk is covered so much in books due for processing that you wouldn't even know a desk was there. To the careful peruser there is gold squeezed into shelves, to the quick shopper something is bound to catch their eye. Hidden in a spiral of shelves of decreasing width there are dusty old encyclopedias and rare editions of classics. To top it all off, the building is two storeys. It is one of the few joys in my life.
>>25000276How do they finance themselves? I always wanted to be a bookstore but you need to have a serious inheritance and funding from the government or someone.
>>24999862>Walmart is a deeply politically-charged environmentThis might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this site.
I've been to most book stores in my city. One is a chain that has, hands down, the best selection. Thousands upon thousands of used books you've never heard of, arranged haphazardly so that finding a genre is easy, but an individual book takes searching. Another is downtown. It's the tourist slop that OP mentions. Maybe 800 books in the whole shop, most are ~employee picks~ that take up the largest shelf. Then there's one in the hipster district. This one pisses me off the most. The downstairs is tourist slop, but there's a secret upstairs with a decent, not great, selection of used books. I went there this past weekend looking for Bocaccio and they had gutted the entire upstairs. Got rid of 80% of the selection. No shopping could have done this. It was completely wiped for a reason.
WHEN>tomorrow morning (Friday 2nd) at 10:00am GMT the character and theme requirements will be released. RULES>1. incorporate the theme and character requirements (creative interpretations allowed) into a piece of writing>2. submissions must be made by Monday 5th at 21:59 BST>3. you must submit using rentry.co >4. link of your piece under a unique tripcode (Namefield: Name + "#" + Password)>5 you are allowed to edit your work on rentry.co page until the submission deadline.>6. entrants must vote or will be disqualifiedVOTING>anyone can vote>a Strawpoll will be made where you can rank your top three: 1st gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets 1 for entrants:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
voted>Production Blues:We made fun of temerity, but he seems like a douchebag who would say temerity.>DelonismOverwritten, " They performed every action mechanically, like automatons doing something they had done a thousand times before." Not sure why you hate quotation marks. The minor celeb part could actually be a cool idea, if developed more. "Famous at extremely niche thing no one had ever heard of" is fun.>TenEggsDoesn't really fit the prompt. ReggAIton pun was cute. The tactile contrast with the vinyl was neat, but needs more payoff.>ineptiaThe intro is just the right amount of weird without going to far. Metal detecting is a great minor-celeb niche, and you balance the right amount of obscure/trivial detail without getting boring/hard to understand. (I learned what a pinpointer is!) Economically sets up character and conflict, works as a preamble. Maybe one or two more lines to help establish Cam/their relationship. Not sure it's my kind of story, but a good enough beginning that I'd consider reading more.>vohoThis one was just fun. Agree that putting Oxi-Clean in early kind of spoiled the "twist." Either drop it or pick something more obscure. Excellent use of a real life minor celeb.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24999634>(I learned what a pinpointer is!)“Write what you know,” lol.I’m really happy that term interested you.Thank you for your feedback to me and to the other authors.
>>24999634TenEggs here. I'm happy you enjoyed the story. Can you tell me why you are struggling to understand how it fits the prompt?
yay, finally got time to read, voted so I have an alibi now> TenEggs Narration's got some sass to it. Very funny he's all "look at these normies listening to this slop", and then have him go "well, just till i get out of the city" immediately after. Also, someone also watched those "silent headphone rave" videos and thought they were hilarious. I reckon you should have made Declan hold his piss till the end, so you keep the tension in the back of your mind rather than just using it to get him into the depths of the museum and release it before the climax. I saw that he relieved himself, and I wasn't reading as excitedly anymore. Fuck you for making me look up and listen to Daddy Yankee, but I guess if you only listened to ai generated reggae your whole life, this would be like finding a pristine Beatles record and you're the guy from that Yesterday movie. > Ineptia I love PSs in emails, that's where the real lover boys put their best pickup lines. I also love the idea of a guide cat, maybe onedoes not give a shit it guides you into a pole or something. Only critique is the paragraph listing all the possible goodies she could find should have been at least 80 items. Ending it with the classic woman desperately moving on from a trusted friend/business partner to online schizo just because she imagined a situation where he would reject her and she decided he doesn't love her anymore, completely fabricated in her mind? Watch it, you're on thin ice buddy >Rick GeoffleyTeenagers keep going to warehouses in abandoned ghost towns to do drugs, pick fights, and try to kill themselves, and you're telling me some don't come back. That's just part of life man. Someone tell Geoff he can't be frontman if he gets bothered by that. Maybe pivot to shoegaze or something, those kids just stay in their bedrooms listening to To Here Knows When. I'm not an emo/hardcore guy, but I would have thought he'd love the feeling of a freezing cold warehouse serving as a lighthouse for his audience. I also thought you were going to describe Jordan's body as becoming one of the hundreds of decaying / abandoned red trees in the empty PA towns, like how you started. >Reggie Proctor Good for you, I thought. Makes me think if the first ghost that showed up to Scrooge with a hammer, they might not have needed the others. I like the "he says", and also your use of "third space" as if you've been in the discourse about how modern society sucks because you just found out that billionaires don't fund libraries anymore. To be honest, having Reggie's punishment being spilt blood did spoil it a bit, rather than a more existential punishment for his selfishness. I want to see that guy suffer a fate worse than death, man. A new gutter + installation is what, a few thousand?
>DelonismYou don't need the "after a few hours" skip, you do a good enough job slowing building up the tension and nitrogen gas as they continue underwater, and I think seeing the timeskip ruined my flow. You have something i don't have which is the patience for longer, subtler prose, so I'm very jealous. >DGNFirst word made me laugh, good job, that's exactly how someone who's knighted would say it. Super easy to read, good flow, maybe it's just because I subconsciously skip over any words that are vaguely fantasy sounding, so I don't break the flow? I will vote for whoever's story has dialogue with "eh?" punctuations. >vohoI can't for the life of me remember who it was, but some actor during an interview said that while playing the character of a real person on a biopic or something, he himself knew what made the person tick more than the actual person, because the actor had to study the guy and understand why he is the way he is, whereas the real guy is just himself. Anyway, some really funny lines, and I reckon you thought more about Billy Mays than he himself ever did. >HMI thought i was gonna be laughing the entire song, but i got sad halfway through. When it goes "MIIII-IIII-IIINE" in the bridge, there's a static that's like a portal that the ai hellhole it spawned from got opened, and I got exposed to a glimmer of unfiltered neural networks, like staring too long after an eclipse. Anyway, loved that you painted the picture of the guy as someone who would do a moe-moe-kyun in real life but have his damning feature be that he works in tech. You knew you spoiled your first ending, so you decided to double down, that's sick. Interesting she wouldn't be immediately repulsed by wealthy men and houses cut out of stone and that sort of superficial scene, I guess her heart still yearns for the good life that got promised to her, but not everyone can be as fortunate as Lana Del Rey and marry an alligator boat captain. If it's this future or ReggAIton, I think im taking Daddy Yankee>ProdBluesI can't think about anything else other than John Lennon doing his silly little walk
The last translation of a great work of literature which was made by a large committee of men who were both meticulous scholars of the language(s)--autistic about pious precision, even going so far as to italicize words that had to be inserted for English grammar and giving alternative translation in the margins--and steeped in literature and poetry and rhetoric as much as the air they breathedAnd it has a queer king's name forever emblazoned on it
>>24998954The text literally says Greek in the original, stupid.
>>25000295It says HELLENE not Greek, schlomo. Why try to lie about something anyone can just Google?
>>25000295That's not correct. The tetrapla and the Vulgate don't say anything about Greek. She's just a Canaanite.
>>25000315Pretty sure you're just coping with the fact that a "Syrophoenician" could not have historically been a Canaanite at that time and the inconsistency between the Gospels bothers you.
>>24998720>The last worthy translation of a great work of literature...Emily Wilson says hi.
