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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Are you incapable of making decisions without the guidance of anonymous internet strangers? Open this thread for some recommendations.

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>another mid whore catapulted into fame and fortune for existing

That's it. This has gone too far, the woman problem HAS to be addressed now. Simping is an epidemic that is destroying society and it's only going to get worse.
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>>24947986
>Women don't understand or appreciate their own beauty and desirability.
they do, but the fallibility of human existence cant be defied without discipline, which most people lack.
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>>24948010
>>24948013
Simp
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Dinergoth girls deserve everything.

If anything we needd to increase incentives for cute girls going dinergoth.
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>>24947986
How do I find a gf that looks like this?

>t. Ohionigga
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>>24948002
notes from the underground
steppenwolf
the bell jar
(vaguely)

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Do Tolkiendrones realize that fantasy existed before Lord of the Rings and that it suffered greatly from Big Fat Fantasy and other sloppy derivatives that grew like viruses from Tolkien's wen?
https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
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>>24947885
ty anon
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>china mieville
Lmao at this tard, he takes inspiration from fucking D&D, which is itself heavily influenced by tolkien. He quite literally writes fanfictions of the works of the guy he's supposed to be mad about.
And when he writes he feels so childishly tryhard and edgy for the sake of it. Like perdido street station? The prose was so shit i thought christopher paolini revised it.
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>>24942560
Most people believe in some kind of God and have some kind of concept of deatiny or fate. Most stories will reflect that because stories are written for an audience. The tiny minority of joyless losers who seethe at anything resembling spirituality are not the audience for most stories.
The point of fantasy is not to write a world that is different from our own, it ia to write a fantastical story in whatever setting or world you want. A world where people wear pants on their head is pretty different, but it's also retarded and has nothing to do with fantasy.
Going into any story as a writer with a theme or message in mind is almost always a waste of time. It is thinking of storytelling from the position of the audience and not the storyteller. Create characters, create events, create struggle, create friction, create goals, create actions. Let the themes arise when and where they will from the things happening in the story.
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>>24947249
Almost nothing you wrote is true:
Isekai are not fairy tales, properly speaking.
Fairy tales are neither safe nor meaningless.
Wish fulfillment is a fundamental part of all story telling.
The reason "slop" is appealing to so many men (because that's who we're really complaining about here) is that it is usually entertaining and unapoligetically so. Whereas so much of the industry-produced garbage these days is full of navel-gazing insincere losers with inferiority complexes, slop writers are sincerely just writing what they enjoy, often with almost no self-consciousness at all. The slop writer is the happy man dancing with the pretty girls unconcerned if he looks a little goofy and the industry authors are the weird autist seething in the corner too uncomfortable in their own skin to even imagine having fun.
The reason why people love Tolkien so much is because he had all that sincerity and easy, comfortable joy; but he also combined it with an intellect and command of language that towered above any of these modern, over-educated, suicidal twats.
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>>24939820
just write better, just write a better world

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Will my ketamine addiction make me a better writer?
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>>24947829
>which degrades the mind after years of abuse.
I'm probably older than all of you
I've been abusing alcohol for over 20 years and am more creative now than I've ever been
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>>24947976
K thanks
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>>24947800
I had a heroin habit in my youth but i've been clean 25 years and i've written three books and started a literary movement.
Drugs are not the answer my dude, you need your brain functioning at its highest possible level.
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>>24947800

I spent half my life as an alcoholic. I still kind of am, but quit liquor.

I was always a writer, and did it professionally, but once I cut down on the booze I could actually finish things, and got novels completed.

Drugs aren’t the reason creatives are creative, drugs are how crazy people self-medicate, and being crazy is what makes them creative.
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Thanks for reminding me the only white people i talk to on this site are junkies

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Erich Heckel edition
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>>24947955
Sleep tight, stay out of the tranny's sights
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>>24941253
When you guys read and had questions, read a word you've never seen before, or maybe a place that you don't know where it is do you write it down to look it up later?
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>>24948081
Words, yes. These days that generally involves looking it up on my phone then adding it to a Notes file along with its definition. Years ago, I would just write the word on a notecard I used as the bookmark, which had the benefit of neatly collecting and listing all of the books from the particular book I didn't know on a single source, so you get a kind of look into the author's word choice. You should have seen the notecards I would fill up with Henry Miller's books, haha, so many obscure words.
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>>24948140
Do you ever review them just in case you forgot a word or so?
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>>24948145
Back when I took things a bit more seriously, once I finished the book, I would write some kind of essay or even fiction story using all of the words, and it was a very effective way of committing them to memory. The most effective, even. Ever since I stopped doing that, I only remember about ~40% of the words, meaning I don't have to look them up again the next time I counter them.

I should start doing that again. Thanks for the reminder.

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are there any biographical books about chronically depressed historical figures that went on to accomplish anything?
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>>24947934
>depressed man overcomes suffering and mental illness by participating in a social justice movement
holy peak, german history is THIS good?!?!?
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>>24947940
>mental illness
physical disability*
i had one job.
fml.
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>>24947934
>kills himself
not the kind of person i'm looking for
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>>24947936
i will check out their life stories, thank you
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Nobody who's depressed accomplishes anything.

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The deepest thinker on the left (Hegel scholar) Vs the deepest thinker on the right (Nietzsche scholar)... A debate between these two would be priceless
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>>24944858
>Israel and Ukraine
why do you think these countries or the foreign policy regarding them is so important? I would say domestic issues are far more important. Wether or not we support Israel doesn't change much
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>>24945076
Jewish control of major financial, entertainment, and NGO institutions. They're important because the people who ACTUALLY run the world view them in high esteem.
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>>24943914
>quoting a genreslop author as an authority
kek
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bump
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>>24942307
Kek

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Is this a good book to start studying informal logic? What exactly should I expect?
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picrel is from
https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt
https://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivox
table of contents: https://www.heritagebooks.org/content/Logicsample.pdf
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>>24948097
this is the table of contents
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here's another open access book

https://cwi.pressbooks.pub/revisedfundamentalmethodsoflogic/front-matter/table-of-contents/
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The Art of Logical Thinking
by William Walker Atkinson

https://archive.org/details/artoflogicalthin00atki

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Is as shitty as every other on
this lame ass, fucking has
been site.
Lol.
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Chinese "people " should be fed to those crocs alive

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Why is it that all great minds of antiquity thought that love was more than a crude neurochemical reaction? Would they have been redpilled if they were alive after the 20th century when advancement in chemistry demonstrated that love/eros is basically just a powerful drug? Honestly explains many things about the current perception of love in relation to modernity.
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>>24947762
But the question is 'is love chemicals smacking around, or is it a thing in itself.'
Religion vs. Quintessence of Dust -- doing the smacking around determinism thing-y.
'Tis a religious matter.
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>>24945804
I mean they didn't even know what a "neurochemical reaction" was.
I have to think that if the knowledge necessary for materialism to exist in antiquity existed then yes some of them would have been materialists
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>>24946386
I'd have a wife and a cat and we'd (wife and me) translate books together and go for walks in the woods in the evenings but otherwise leave each other alone. We'd sleep in separate rooms but with beds large enough to cuddle together some nights.

Whenever we met someone like you we'd share a laugh. As if to say "thank goodness we never gave up hope" and squeeze each others hand, and we'd be happy, because we aren't just value calculations, but human beings who found someone to see them and appreciate them for who they are.
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Look up metaphysical Love
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>>24945804
Men are waking up to the true nature of reality

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What books help learning how to be more greedy and get good at being greedy? I want something of sociopathic nature that convinces money is the most important thing in life and why and how to exploit others for greed

https://youtube.com/shorts/xs_sRkJi0HI?si
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>>24943656
It is not, money is nothing, but means to an end. It is pointless to go after it without considering everything else that you actually want.
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Money is everything so read these:

>magic of money by schacht
>4 hour work week by timothy ferriss
>a history of central banking by Stephen m Goodson
>Understanding central banks springer

This explains how money works in the modern world with crypto and venture options. It explains how rothschilds and rockefellers orchestrated modern banking apart from the gold standard. It explains how hitler emerged his own banking system out of weimar before ww2.

A good businessman needs no morals so also read:

>might is right by ragnar redbeard
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>>24943950
literally me
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>>24943656
Hipparchus of Plato is a defense of greed. It’s a lesser known aporetic work
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>>24945292
Thanks for the recommendation - I am reading Schacht’s book and it is incredible. His description of his career and interactions with the industrialists of his time are so interesting. I’m at the section where he describes the plan to stabilize the Reichsmark by ending emergency money, and this book has me hooked.

I also read Might is Right years back during university and loved every chapter of it. Gorgeous, poetic, and his words are sharp as knives.

I think I’ll go through your list, or maybe look for something on quantitative easing and modern money systems next.

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Redpill me on Dr. William Pierce. Are his works worth reading?
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here's what i thought to be a cogent take on the story. personally, i find it telling that in pierce's ideal world, two whole continents are rendered uninhabitable. i was told this was the work that radicalized timothy mcveigh. i doubt it. it's just not good.
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>>24941203
William Pierce is shit. read Klassen instead.
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>>24941203
no
>>24942542
rockwell's problem was that he was a clown, and so when he attracted followers what they built was a circus
post-WW2 american "white nationalist" thought is a totally worthless desert full of dysgenic retards. there's nothing of value there you didn't already read on /pol/ if you were there prior to 2016. it took people who weren't part of that scene reinventing the few good ideas from scratch in order to make anything useful out of it (and even that is now in the process of rotting, because even though racism is in major ways correct, it attracts dysgenic retards like flies to shit).
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>>24948089
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>>24948133
no, Ben Klassen the real estate salesman.

How does modern technology change Spengler's predictions? He probably didn't see europe becoming 30% foreigners by 2025 too.
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>>24948043
So arabs, negroes and indians are the real westerners?
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>>24947777
Alot.
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Do people take Spengler seriously? He's basically doing the equivalent of horoscopes but for historical societies.

I think it's cute how much of a fanboy he was for Mesoamerican civilizations though, a shame he didn't live to see the decipherment of the Maya script
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>>24948148
Should go without saying but due to how old Spengler's writings are a, lot of the information he gives here is seriously outdated

Stuff on Mesoamerica even from 20-40 years ago is missing a lot of major research, let alone 100. Again, he was writing before we could read Maya inscriptions at all.
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whoops, didn't realize that second image didn't continue where the first one left off and skips over a bunch of stuff, oh well

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Just ordered this
What am I getting into?
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>>24947516
We're about due for a good cleansing, wouldn't you say?
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>>24946147
A book you end up skipping like 2/3rds of. Most of the Old Testament is just pointless measurements and names.
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>>24946969
>but from an entertainment/quality perspective the Quran is better
How? I thought most of it was proverbs tier
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>>24947302
based
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>>24946190
I like the NRSV

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>match with woman on dating app
>we both have literature as shared interests
>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??"
>"I'm more into the classics"
>"but what's your favorite genre? Do you like sci fi?
>"I like transcendentalist literature"
>"oh ok"

Why do they ask
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>>24948035
>disinterested perspective
No wonder why you retards cant get laid. Women love passion.
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>>24948091
Jokes on them, I don't even get laid with the apps. People who measure their value by 'getting laid' are lame. People who have friends are lame. Your normie life is pathetic, why are you even on /lit/?
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>>24947357
>pretends to be to niche for normies to understand
>uses dating apps
Lmao
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>>24948099
I'm on /lit/ because I read books for 3 - 4 hours a day. It's how I spend my pleasure time after work. I don't even own a TV or laptop. Only my smartphone that I need for work. My SO also spends her time reading.

I like /lit/ being anonymous and people being able to truly speak their minds. This place isn't supposed to be a hugbox for losers. I don't have a lot of friends but the ones I have are extremely close and high quality, as things should be.
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>>24948070
Please do not do this anons


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