Family Reunion edition A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.Previous thread: >>92524049Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBLatest AMG news:>New Battle Force documents.>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions>https://twitter.com/atomicmassgames/Latest Edge news:>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/Unlimited links:>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/>https://swudb.com/>https://www.felttable.com/swuShatterpoint:>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/TQ: What is your favourite familial relationship in Star Wars?
>>92559864
Bald Lady
>>92559864>TQ: What is your favourite familial relationship in Star WarsKen.
Where the hel is everybody?Like fuck!
>Stories about clonetroopershundreds>Stories about stormtroopersa couple>Stories about rebel soldiers0
>>92559864I never know the vibe of this thread anymore.Would anyone be opposed to a bit of storytiming from the campaign I'm playing in?
>>92560076>>Stories about rebel soldiersThere's literally like, thousands of these, I just want an Imperial story where a bunch of rebels just kill imperial citizens and then you get the heroic stormtroopers coming in for the rescue.
>>92560109>Would anyone be opposed to a bit of storytiming from the campaign I'm playing in?Pretty sure that's always welcome, people read even if they don't respond
>>92559864>What is your favourite familial relationship in Star Wars?call me a sucker but I really like it
Yesterday's reveal, white event that draws up to 2 upgrades and/or Mandalorian cards. (Set 2 Mandalorians have upgrades as a sub-theme.)
daily reminder that we got 4 episodes of the martez sisters instead of this
>>92559864>TQ: What is your favourite familial relationship in Star Wars?
>When the separatist scourge ravaged the Outer Rim, I ordered the retreat at Merson>When the rebellion led popular uprisings that overthrew oppressive regimes across the galaxy, I ordered the retreat at Endor>While the New Republic captured the capital and established itself as the galaxies legitimate government and true successor to the old regime, I ordered the retreat at Bilbringi>While the New Republic proved itself time and again as a stable nation under the just protection of the New Jedi Order, I ordered the retreat at Yavin>When the New Republic carried out on its promise to liberate the galactic north, I ordered the retreat at Anx Minor>And now that the galaxy is on fire and the Yuuzhan-Vong are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help?
>>92560241The problem is not "instead", the problem is that the so-called "final season" was not big enough to include many other stories that were not immediately relevant to the Siege of Mandalore. And, regardless, it doesn't matter anymore. It was retconned anyway, with Cad Bane surviving getting shot in the head somehow, and Aurra Sing surviving only to be killed by Woody Harrelson off-screen.
>>92560109Dewit. I'll critisize you.
>playing Edge of the Empire>just got a new ship, but most of us aren't great pilots so we need a crew to help (Corellian pilot is the only one who knows the difference between port/starboard)>just finished up helping some Twi'leks on Ryloth fuck over a Hutt shipping concern and stopped them from taking some Twi'leks off world as slaves>celebration, apparently ryll spice is a great addition to alcohol, and Twi'lek warriors know how to party hard>the chieftain asks if there's any reward he can offer us>jokingly say that some of his people would be useful to crew our ship if he can spare them>next morning our characters all wake up hungover after partying all night and failing our dice rolls to avoid blackout drinking>GM smugly informs us we now have a crew>of (some male but mostly female) Twi'leks who were due to be shipped as slaves>also the Pantoran gunslinger is now engaged to two of them>and something happened to our Gen'dai that none of us know because he won't talk about itThey're surprisingly decent crew. But I'm pretty sure she's daring us to ERP with her.
>>92560275The Empire wound up winning in the end anyway with Roan Fel.Just like Tokugawa Shogunate, Pellaeon won the empire by running away.
>>92560139>white eventYou know I didn't really realize that when you posted it yesterday but it's weird they gave it the white aspect.Sure Din is a pretty nice dude but the whole "this is the Way" mantra is associated with the Mando Covert as a whole and they seemed more Neutral than Light-sided.I feel like it would have been more fitting as a Red card (mandos are pretty aggressive) or Yellow (for synergy with Din and because the whole point of the covert is clandestinity).I guess it makes thematical sense if you assume it specifically represents Din's mindset and his turning point when he fights the remnant and other bounty hunters and calls other mandos for help while using new gadgets, instead of a more generic mandalorian card.Balance wise I suppose its also more fitting with White's buffing gimmick.
>he's clearly tech!>no he's cody!>no he's slick/dogma/clone who punched a droid!what if he's actually Emerie Karr? seriously, you've never seen them in the same room, she's an experimental clone and probably has an inhibitor chip, what if CX-2 is just a winter soldier type deal with her? CX-2 has a modulated voice and a thin build
>>92560112This is exactly why the writing around the Rebellion sucks. In reality the Rebels would be doing terrorism fucking everywhere, being brutal to any Imperials or sympathizers. They'd be fighting out of hatred and revenge, probably a lot of anti-Humanism from aliens and Separatist elements, but no they're basically just Jedi-lite.
>>92560109Go ahead and post it, you may not get much of a response but that's not really the important part.
>>92560257I will never forgive those fuckers for giving such a cool character such a fucking retarded name.
>>92560319>just finished up helping some Twi'leks on Ryloth fuck over a Hutt shipping concern and stopped them from taking some Twi'leks off world as slavesWhy would you do such a thing? Now they'll starve in a cave or be burned to death in solar storms, instead of being gainfully employed in their cornered job market.
>>92560429Star Wars villains have always had retarded, on-the-nose names.>Greedo>Dark (in)Vader>Dark (in)Sidious>Dark MAUL (he mauls your face with his baton)>Dark TYRANNUS (get it, he's a tyrant?)>GRIEVOUS>Elan Sleazebaggano>Savage OpressI'll gladly take these names over some generic GLUP SHITTO A'vjasdh'Kapeth Mithrawandu'o'osdsdlsdlsdlasdmjkasd
>>92560390>Balance wise I suppose its also more fitting with White's buffing gimmick.I wouldn't really say white has any more of that than black does, in set one. Veers and Advanced directly mirror Dodonna and Wing Leader.
>>92560478GREVIOUS INJURY
>>92560467We needed to pay off a debt to another more pressing crime lord than the Hutts, and it pleased the more good-aligned of our group to free slaves rather than just steal spice (the other option we were given).
>>92560411Anon, this is a pulp setting.
>>92560631Pulp sci-fi deals with that stuff too.
>>92560411are you the nazi that is always posting in these threads
>>92560671Are you the commie obsessed with the Carrack and Army Troopers?
>>92560685no
>>92560697Then no.
>>92560331Sun Tzu would be proud.
>>92560408Umm actually CX-2 is Sev but Scorch doesn't know this he's gonna be really mad at Hemlock when he finds out by teaming up with Emerie, trust the plan.
>>92560112There was literally an era where you could do that without making Palpatine less evil, or having to blackwash the NR/Rebellion. Unfortunately, Disney nuked it.
>>92560736sounds like a good plan, but how would we know its sev?
>>92560275Pellaeon was just the sort of middle manager that the Empire needed to get its footing back. Shame we never got to see the Jagged Fel era where it went back to prominence. Pellaeon was a caretaker, and did his job well, but Jagged was due to bring in a new Golden Age.
>>92560797Emerire would help Scorch remember how funny he used to be and then Scorch would use his leet haxor skills to slice into Hemlock's personal terminal where they read everything about the CX program, Scorch gets mad, runs off to fine CX-2, bonks him, calls Boss and Fixer on holo speed dial and then they speedrun over to Tantiss, break out and live happily ever after.
>>92560076>Stories about battle droidserror
>>92560799>ywn bag the last Solo kid and have her spawn an entire Jedi splinter faction dedicated to serving you as the living incarnation of the ForceHe was simply too based for this world.Also kind of funny the Imperial Knights are basically exactly what Atris tried to make the Jedi Order into.
>>92560776I suppose you can still kinda do it with Saw's hardcore rebels or Seppies' holdout. I feel you could also do something with Imperial Remnants even in nu-canon, I doubt all warlords were part of the cabal shown in Mando or folded into the First Order. Though I doubt any upcoming media would ever depict an Imperial Remnant that goes "Well that Sith bullshit was retarded but we can still keep the Order and Stability part" there is nothing stopping me from basing my Legion/Shatterpoint lists on the concept or including it my games.Also not the first time I see this pic but holy shit what the hell is going on with Pellaeon's rank insigna?
>>92560851Imperial Knights are ironically also an allegory for Clone Wars Jedi.>Jedi serving an authoritarian regime>military leaders and bodyguards>wear armor instead of robes
>>92560873Pellaeon wears whatever rank insignia he wants.
thoughts on this character? annoying and overused or interesting?
>>92560523Yeah, that's my bad. I was also thinking of the Medal Ceremony but Tagge has a similar effect too.Still I feel "This is the Way" does not fit the Heroism aspect as well as other cards thematically as a general Mandalorian card which I don't really associate with the Light Side, though gameplay-wise I understand its effect being closer to Green cards means it would be hard to justify making it a Yellow or Red card.
>>92560939I thought she was interesting at first, but like alot of current star wars material she became overused quickly and it's utterly ridiculous how she SOMEHOW kept getting away from Vader.
>>92560939I don't read comic slop, especially not Disney Marvel comic slop. From what I've seen, she's the ultimate Mary Sue writer's pet, who gets to talk shit to Vader, beats him, lives, walks away from it, and then works with him again, and sass girl bosses him again. She's also barely got any porn, therefore irrelevant and no cultural impact. Comic books are the lowest form of entertainment with no quality control whatsoever, only people who absolutely do not value their time bother with them.
Is this ship the ultimate pleb filter?
>>92560939I thought she was great in Darth Vader, where she was a supporting character (along with the murder droids). Giving her an ongoing with her as the focus was a mistake, though. The character isn't that compelling, and attempts to inject depth not only fell flat but also clashed with the standard modern comic book desire to maintain a "status quo" (despite this being a new character that could have gone anywhere). Any development she seems to have always snaps back like rubber into the same one-dimensional jerk person. At least Triple-0 has the excuse of being a droid to explain his lack of growth, but even there you see something.She's a cutie though.
>>92560939annoying and overused but I still want to see her in my fetish scenarios
>>92560939i was introduced to character per outer rim boardgame. looked her over wookiepedia as this character was unknown to me. idea of inverted indiana jones is fun but character screams mery sue to me. yeah i get it that shes genius at robotics and engineering but such character who gets on shit list of vader, empire, rebel alliance, hutt cartel, few criminal syndicates and burns bridges right and left, imo would be dead rather quickly in realistic setting
>>92560478>Star Wars villains have always had retarded, on-the-nose names.>Elan SleazebagganoNever named in the movies and certainly not an actual threat. His name can be a joke because the entire character's only purpose is to be a joke.>GRIEVOUSSinge word name. Works much better because of that. "Grevious Injury" would have been fucking retarded.>The restNotice how had to reword or add syllables to them to make them sound as stupid as Savage Opress?
>>92560873The problem would be that you're basically doing headcanon to get that to work, when you can just use Legends and insert things you like from Disney canon. Things that are actually good, like Rogue One and Andor/Trandor/Blandor fit perfectly well into the Legends continuity.>>92560939Have you ever played online RPGs with roleplaying clans? Like Galaxies or SWTOR? Then you'd know that there was always the quirky lesbian character played by a fat guy who tried to flirt and seduce everyone and gave off major Rey energy when it came to dealing damage to opponents, but instead of being a message-sender, she was plain coomer-bait. Which could've really helped Rey in popularity, at least, just sayin'>>92560983Its definitely not as bad as people say it is. Give it a giant hammer at the front-end and its basically a mini-Eclipse.
>>92561001Savage is not pronounced as English "savage". Opress is spelled differently and also pronounced differently. Anyway, cope, seethe, moan, bitch, etc.
>>92561015I accept your concession stand.
>>92560980>she's the ultimate Mary Sue writer's pet, who gets to talk shit to Vader, beats him, lives, walks away from itThat felt more like Qira, who managed to go toe-to-toe with him using her incredible Teras Kasi skills she learned from the chump two apprentices before Vader, and then almost trapped Vader AND Palpatine in gay baby jail, before ultimately losing but getting to escape from the story with zero consequences and act smug when her ex-boyfriend and some other people destroyed the Empire. I assume she'll be referenced in a book later as the "real" hero who destroyed the Empire with Luke Skywalker just being some kid who managed a lucky redeem roll on Darth Vader.The best Star Wars comics they're doing right now are the ones that have the least to do with established characters. They wrote some good Star Wars/Darth Vader stuff early on, but it's getting ridiculous, especially setting so many things between Empire and Jedi, given how little time passed between those movies. While I can find plenty of faults, I think Bounty Hunters is the best book I've read because it's just dumb underworld fun.
>>92561020The only good Disney Marvel Star Wars comic was the Darth Maul one from 2017. The rest are all, *ALL* shit.
>>92561020...do you mean one apprentice before? Maul was Palp's first apprentice, then Dooku, then Vader. Unless you're counting Vader and Anakin as two separate apprentices?
>>92561020the crossover events are such garbage, hell most of the mainline comic is garbage only a couple of Luke issues are good
>>92561042Wrong.
>>92561074absolute cringe vaderwank garbage
>>92561074Pic unrelated?
>>92561049>Maul was Palp's first apprentice, then Dooku, then VaderYeah, 1, 2, 3, Vader is 3 so Maul was 2 before him.
While we are talking on comics, I'm looking for a scene from I think the Republic comics by Dark Horse. It was a Jedi, Aayla Secura, hunting something or being hunted. She pauses, lowers her head, and recalls some lesson from Yoda or Quinlan Vos about making herself invisible or blanking her presence so she can't be seen.Does anybody know the page I'm talking about and/or can post it up?
>>92561142In order for Maul to be two apprentices before Vader, there would need to be TWO APPRENTICES between Maul and Vader. There isn't. There's only one. You don't count Maul in the "two apprentices before".
>>92561074Holy fuck, that is cringe-inducing as hell. Its the right sort of wack that appeals to a 14-year-old edgy teen.
>>92561095>>92561117>>92561217Well, that at least makes me relieved. I thought the comics had gone to shit, turns out it's just anon with garbage taste.
>>92561217Yea man, I get so tired of seeing moments like this where they try to portray the rebels as some badass threat.
>>92560939Obnoxious Sue who needs to be sodomized with a blaster rifle.
>>92561221You have to be 18+ to post on this board.
agghhh!
>>92561203I think we just have a different understanding of the English language.
Vader wank will always be cringe. He is just a pathetic old cripple in the life support suit. He was never some Super Saiyan giga powerful force of nature capable of taking on 100 troops surrounding him.
>>92561277Vader in the Vader comics actually kills more Stormtroopers than Rebels. Its beyond dumb.
>>92561277>. He was never some Super Saiyan giga powerful force of nature capable of taking on 100 troops surrounding him.You don't have to be some ubermensch force wielder to do that shit.
>>92561020Like a year passes between those movies.
>Vice Admiral Rampart and Bode in Jedi Survivor share the same VAhuh. how does he do it?
>>92561187If you want evidence of Force Cloak just see Empire at War or TFU2 DS ending.
>>92561325Reminder, that Count Dooku had to surrender to Hondo, because they heavily outnumbered and surrounded him. Even he could not take on all of them. No one can, when you are surrounded by 50 guns. You can't deflect them all. And that story came straight from Lucas, by the way. And that is consistent with the movies. Comic books and videogames (and genndy clone wars) with their insane power creep have rotten manchildrens' brains.It can be fun and all, but when manchildren take it extremely seriously - it becomes cringe.
>>92561466>No one can, when you are surrounded by 50 guns.You could just explode all their hearts. Plus there are plenty of times Jedi BTFO dozens and dozens of battle droids, even in TCW.
>>92560983https://fractalsponge.net/the-last-jedi-ship-design-reaction/
>>92561515So, that's a yes? Most of fractal's designs are hot garbage, he's got no room to speak.
>>92561548I'll take the biblically accurate torpedo sphere over the pizza slice any day.
>>92561682>I suck cocks!I know.
Make a smuggler, but they're not just a flavor of Han Solo. Challenge mode; they're not a complete inversion of Han Solo either
>>92561245Yet you continue to post.
>>92561838He smuggles slaves.
>>92561466>Even heDooku was the weakest and most pathetic Sith in the movie, though. Literally every other Sith managed to kill at least one (1) Jedi in the movies. He couldn't, because he was too weak and pathetic. It's not a surprise he lost to a joke character, he's pretty much one himself.
>>92561895He beat Anakin and Obi-wan together. Also Obi-wan later too.
>>92561838Take influence from real-world smugglers, instead. Make them thuggish, mostly concerned with making money, and when they can, they flaunt said money. They don't live in a dinghy freighter, they live in a top Coruscanti penthouse and have a Twi'lek trophy wife.
>>92561903He never fought them together in the movies. And even fighting them separately, he was never able to kill them lmao. He was a placeholder apprentice until Sheev finished grooming Anakin.
>>92561895Hondo wasn't a joke character. He was extremely cunning and ruthless, depending on how profitable the situation was... He became a joke only in Rebels.
>>92561980Honestly, he was the Sith least invested in the Dark Side. Dumb motherfucker thought he was reforming the Jedi Order and fixing the galaxy right up until Palp gave the order to the apprentice he actually wanted to finish the old fart off.
>>92562011>Hondo wasn't a joke characterJesus Christ, I don't think I've seen terminal cope before.
>>92562046Hondo is similar to Jack Sparrow in the first POTC movie. He could be *funny*, but he wasn't a *joke*. He was still a bastard, and a dangerous bastard at that. It's the later installments that flanderized him.
>>92560411>In reality the Rebels would be doing terrorism fucking everywhereNnnnno.
>>92561894Into the Empire/Hutt Space, or out of the Empire/Hutt Space?I fee like this may become an important part of the backstory here.
>>92561980He fought them together in RotS and beat Obi-wan handily.
>>92562162And why not?
>>92562193Both. He smuggles people into slavery, slaves out of slavery, and slaves into other slavery.
>>92561203anon what is 3 minus 2?
>>92562022>that filenamekek
>>92561466Anon this may surprise you, but Vader is more powerful than Dooku.
>>92562288>He fought them together in RotSNo, he didn't. Anakin rushed in alone, got taken out, then Kenobi, then Anakin for round 3. They never fought him together in that movie.
>>92562329Current Apprentice------>Last Apprentice------>One Apprentice back------>Two Apprentices BackYou don't go Current Apprentice------>One Apprentice back unless you're an ESL retard.
>>92562302Why would an organization that relies on a favorable reputation with civilians (because that's where they recruit from)...KILL CIVILIANS on purpose with terror tactics? The purpose of terrorism is to undermine the government, but the Empire doesn't care about civilian casualties, terrorism is 100% useless in Star Wars. I've seen some Empire cucks in my life, but you might top the list.
>>92562368Anon which movie is RotS.
>>92562022Dooku here contemplating "If only I had cerveza cristal[/soiler] I wouldn't be in this situation now"
>>92562378Anon, what is three, minus two? it's basic math.
>>92562354>Vader is more powerful than DookuNot according to Lucas. Vader was equal in power to Dooku, because Obi-Wan fucked him up on Mustafar and gimped Anakin's potential forever.
>>92561838Slicer who hides his cargo on legitimate, gigantic freighters to move goods right past the Empire
>>92562022>Dumb motherfucker thought he was reforming the Jedi Order and fixing the galaxyDid he? I mean I know in the ROTS novel he talks about having legions of Jedi loyal to the Empire, which kind of comes to fruition in canon via the Inquisitorius. But then you also have him saying in the Zygerria arc he wants to exterminate the Jedi, not subjugate them.
>>92562046There's a difference between a gag character, and a funny character.
>>92562393...I am a retard, ignore me
>>92562409According to Lucas Vader is more powerful than Palpatine, because the gimping was not and was never supposed to be permanent.
>>92562477>According to Lucas Vader is more powerful than Palpatine, because the gimping was not and was never supposed to be permanent.Why are you making shit up, retard?>"Palpatine will ultimately be disappointed with Anakin, after he's been permanently maimed by Obi-Wan: "He's less than what you bargained for," Lucas says. "By the end of the film, he's just a man in a shell. So when this young kid [Luke] comes along..." Lucas also explains that Darth Vader can't generate Sith lightning because he doesn't have real hands or arms."—The Making of Revenge of the Sith>"And when he finds out Luke is his son, his first impulse is to figure out a way of getting him to join him to kill the Emperor. That's what Siths do! He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor -- he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."—George Lucas, Rolling Stones Interview, 2005.>“Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful, but he ended up losing his arms and a leg and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there’s not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he’s maybe 20 percent less than the Emperor. So that isn’t what the Emperor had in mind. He wanted this really super guy, but that got derailed by Obi-Wan. So he finds that, with Luke, he can get a more primo version if he can turn Luke to the dark side."—George Lucas, “Star Wars: The Last Battle,” Vanity Fair, 2005
>>92561838He actually isn't a smuggler at all. Probably flew starfighters in a prior war.
>>92560319>and something happened to our Gen'dai that none of us know because he won't talk about itJesus did one of the Twi’lek’s rape the Gen’dai? If so how? Gen’dai should be in the top ten hardest to rape races in the Galaxy.>>92560411There is some stuff about Saw’s group committing acts of terror but I don’t think it will be expanded on anytime soon. Unfortunately there’s a loud section of SW fans who believe that if you portray the Rebs doing Reb shit then you’re an Imperial apologist. It is an interesting idea though.
>>92562391>Why would an organization that relies on a favorable reputation with civilians (because that's where they recruit from)...KILL CIVILIANS on purpose with terror tactics?You could say the exact same thing for the Empire. Why would a government that relies on a central culture based around the power of the core worlds and humanocentrism genocide one of the original core worlds founded by human colonists tens of thousands of years ago? It's like if a US dictator nuked Boston, it simply makes no sense.Similarly, politics also shows why the Rebels would engage in terror tactics, and who those tactics would primarily be directed towards. Some Moff is trying to tamp down your movement? Bomb the businesses and local politicians that support him. Some aristocrats favor the Empire? Kill their children to show they're powerlessness. But none of that means they should go around randomly blowing up passenger trains, or shooting up alien neighborhoods.And of course the Rebellion was actually thousands and thousands of individual cells, so the idea that they would all conduct themselves the same way and hold the same ideals is nonsense.
>>92562402Two minus one is one, yet you still wouldn't say Dooku was one apprentice ago unless you were an utter retard, lmao
>>92562428As usual it's just Dooku's character being inconsistent because no writer actually has a firm idea of what he thinks or why he does anything.
>>92562834>Some aristocrats favor the Empire?Ironically aristocrats are more of the Rebellion's thing. The Empire has more in common with the Federation from Starship Troopers than the Galactic Empires in Dune and 40k.
>>92562849And you can't really fix that, because its already been quite inconsistent. The ROTS novelization is both Legends and Canon, so the racism sticks. But Bad Batch recently also portrayed him as like a generic Saddam Hussein-esque plutocrat that was mainly out to enrich himself. Yet this is the guy who went against the Republic in Tales of the Jedi because its Senators were too corrupt. There still isn't any level of consistency of his character, no real change since the 00s.
>>92562904>The ROTS novelization is both Legends and Canonhuh?
>>92562904>But Bad Batch recently also portrayed him as like a generic Saddam Hussein-esque plutocrat that was mainly out to enrich himself.That was literally just an opinion of some boomer who lived in the woods, lol. Why are you taking it as some objective information about the character? In the same season, they had a Separatist who was all wet about Dooku. I can't believe people are that fucking media illiterate.
>>92562879It is very hard to pin the Republic/Galactic Empire/Rebel Alliance into being one 'sort' of government/membership being dominated by one system. Part of that is the pulp-like foundation of the setting (Titles! Titles for everyone!), part of that is the scattergun nature of what got attention from authors (some worlds get pages, others get a single throw-away line) and a most of it is that it very rarely matters for the stories being told.Which is hell for me, I want all the details to chew on.
>>92562741You can pound a Gen'dai anywhere in its body from any angle. They have got to be the most penetratable alien race out there, if you're brave enough.
>>92563040The Empire is interesting because it has aristocrats, and Sith elements (obviously Vader, Sheev himself) but the aristocrats largely turn over to the Rebellion, and the Empire is increasingly dominated by military officers.
>>92563100That's the thing, for every aristocrat who is happy to throw in with the Rebellion, there'll be many more happy to stick with an Empire which presents itself as maintaining the social order. Likewise, for every well-meaning planetary democracy which is appalled by Imperial atrocities there'll be those which either don't believe those stories or simply don't care, being the beneficiaries of Imperial investment.
>>92560129>>92560290>>92560424Alright.I got called into work between the first post and this, so sorry about the delay. This portion of the game I'm in has been pretty wild, so I figured I'd share it.To keep it brief, we're a group of spacers who mostly gets work from a wizened bounty hunter. We spent some time on The Wheel where we got involved saving a Rebel Operative, who in turn offered us a job to help rescue Garm Bel Iblis from an "open imprisonment" on a Chandrilan cruise. We only take the job after a handful of cajoling from me, the Consular.We get on the ship as different parts of the crew/staff. I wanted to be a lifeguard at the on-ship pool, but ended up being a gopher towel boy. Which is fine because I ended up meeting the giant Togruta woman.She's like 6'6" with more in montrals and built like Power Girl. She's also got this disgruntled attitude that's pretty obvious even beneath her sunglasses. I have to bring her a drink and we end up chatting about how she loathes being here and how she hates all the people that have the time and/or money do this kind of stuff. I instinctively defend the people on the cruise because, sure, some are probably dickheads, but they shouldn't be hated for trying to enjoy themselves. She responds with a huff. I ask what she does for work and says she works for the Empire. She doesn't get specific.She asks for my name, and I give her a fake one. I ask hers and she says to find her the next day.I find her the next day, actually attempting to enjoy the pool, which is how I find out she's ripped. She gets out after a perfect dive and posts up the same spot as the day prior, disinterested in everything as ever. Now I ask, if she's so contemptuous of the people and she isn't enjoying herself why is she even here."Mandated vacation."She's being forced to do this. She even has an escort somewhere on the ship to make sure she didn't skip out.
Sith Order Sith monk
>>92562840Anon, what is three minus two?
>>92563259I, of course, know something up with this lady, but I'm on the clock. So, I offer to maybe talk to her after hours. She says no, she has to attend the big fancy dinner in the central ballroom. I admit that makes things tough, but I assure her if I'm around I'll say 'hi.' That prompts a wry smile from her, and I take my leave.Through rescue plan shenanigans, I get assigned as a server during this big fancy dinner. I get to chat with Garm, who is under obvious supervision. I quietly assure him that we have things in hand, but I also get to swing by the table that with the Togruta. I say "hello" and try to be amicable as I was poolside when I hear a glass shatter at the table. I turn to the source to insist I'll take care of the mess and make eye contact with the Togruta's escort.Backing up, while I was working poolside, the Dug cowboy of our crew was playing up his pistoleer gimmick at the sabacc tables in the gambling hall. There he ran into a quiet, blonde ISB woman who won nearly every time she played. When she did lose, it was always a low stakes gamble. He was sure she was cheating, but couldn't spot any way to prove it.His persona was so well received by the passengers that they just dragged a sabacc table into the dining hall for the big fancy dinner, and that was where both the Togruta and the ISB woman were seated. And that's who shattered the glass, by clenching it in gloved fist. Because she saw me. Because that ISB agent is my Consular's childhood friend, and abandoned ex.Shit gets real wild from there, but to keep a complex story simple.1. Space Troopers board the ship and our crew fights them.2. Garm and our Rebel shot caller make it out3. The Torguta activates and beats both myself and the Dug into unconsciousness, at my ex's request. Barefisted, btw
>>92562834>You could say the exact same thing for the EmpireNo you can't, because the Empire doesn't give a shit about public opinion. Think McFly, think.
>>92563299Before I clock out, we notice that there's a *bigger than ISD sized* ship looming over head and, asking ISB ex if this was a set up, she says she has no idea. The big ship is apparently a secret third thing unrelated to Garm or the Mandated vacation.I might also note that the Togruta, named Yang, is an element of another character's backstory, and she is in fact mega evil.Big fun. I normally GM and its been a blast just playing a PC and just figuring things out as we go.
>>92562834>And of course the Rebellion was actually thousands and thousands of individual cells, so the idea that they would all conduct themselves the same way and hold the same ideals is nonsense.Saw was kicked out because he was out of line with the rebellion in general. You fail.
>>92562011Every single villain character in the Clone Wars and other Star Wars cartoons except one is a joke character
>>92562904>The ROTS novelization is both Legends and CanonI'm pretty sure even in Legends the ROTS novel wasn't considered fully canon because it directly contradicts the film at times when it comes to dialogue and certain events, since it's based on a screenplay and earlier cut of the film. There are elements in there that have been canonized though. Dooku's racism is all inner dialogue or description anyway so it's even easier to write off. Even Tales of the Jedi Filoni leaned on the "this is how I thought it happened" explanation so those shorts aren't necessarily how those events played out beat for beat much like how one of his Ahsoka shorts contradicts the novel.I kind of look at Star Wars as one big ancient myth that's been told a bunch of different ways anyway. We know the key events but when it comes to what characters were thinking and the minutiae it's distorted. Like the Han short first analogy where all we know for sure is Han and Greedo went into that cantina and only Han came out.
>>92562834>Why would a government that relies on a central culture based around the power of the core worlds and humanocentrism genocide one of the original core worlds founded by human colonists tens of thousands of years ago?Because they don't give a shit about maintaining a favorable opinion with the population and instead seek to rule through fear? It's literally spelled out in the movies for you, you mong.
>>92563313And not only that, he wasn't even deliberately targeting civilians. He was just not as concerned about collateral damage as the rest of the Alliance, so they kicked him to the curb.From the beginning, it's been made clear that the Alliance has been careful to make it a clearly more moral alternative to the Empire. You can't convince people to risk their lives against a fearmongering terrorist state when you're a fearmongering group of terrorists. The Rebels have always needed the moral high ground(heh), and they were damn good at holding onto it. They had to be, their very existence relied upon it.
>>92563309So...what the hell IS Yang? An Inquisitor? ISB herself?
>>92563675Yup. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the moral complexity Rogue One and Andor have added to the Alliance, but I also appreciate that it's "Recruiting assets ruins their whole lives and endangers their families and that makes me feel awful" and some kind of "Well, I'm going to genocide them RIGHT BACK!" nonsense that Vatnik seems to want.
Which one /tg/?
>>92563313Saw was always operating his own cell. Garm also fucked off for most of the war since Mothma wasn't running things how he wanted. In reality there'd be millions of planetary movements, many of which were doing their own thing but claiming association with "the Rebellion".On top of that, the Rebellion proper would still get up to way more shady shit than we normally see from them. Some of what we see from Andor and RO for a start, but also stuff like blowing up Imperial facilities in populated areas, torture, assassinations, and of course the normal casualties of warfare.>>92563597>Because they don't give a shit about maintaining a favorable opinion with the population and instead seek to rule through fear?Which of course makes absolutely no sense. 99.99% of Imperial servicemen and employees come from the general population. Everyone that runs the government across the galaxy has a family and probably knows countless people in the civilian workforce. There's a reason so much ancillary lore seems to suggest that the Empire was running a 24/7 (ineffective) propaganda machine designed to make them look good and appealing. Because "rule through fear" is just nonsense, it makes everyone want to abandon and destroy the system. Especially when it's a rule through fear targeted at EVERYBODY, at every level of society, because then it's impossible to appeal to some groups over others and play people against each other, since everyone from a Corellian business magnate to an Outer Rim spacer is in the same boat.The prequels understood this. Palpatine made himself popular, almost everyone WANTED him to be Emperor and usher the galaxy into a new age. He understood then that it was best for the public to be at his back, supporting him, and that trying to just conquer everything with an iron fist like the Sith of old would ultimately just destroy him.
>>92563675>You can't convince people to risk their lives against a fearmongering terrorist state when you're a fearmongering group of terrorists.Please pick up a history book, retard.
>>92563750Right after she beat the Dug's ass, but right before she beat my ass, I called her out as an Inquisitor, which I have [seen] mulched. Her response was to lower her shades, exposing her unnaturally yellow eyes and said,"I am not an Inquisitor."She then punched me in the stomach twice from, like, 15 feet away.What she is in universe is a spoiler from the session after this one, which I'll summarize once we finish the adventure as a whole. But if you gotta know she's a Emperor's Hand and a Yu Yu Hakusho reference.
>>92565089Are you sure she's not a RWBY reference.
>>92561440I mostly wanted the speech because I couldn't remember it. If you know the issue I can try and find it myself, but the Republic comic series is a long one.
>>92561466Vader's suit is also fairly consistently portrayed as armour against even lightsabers, assuming it would handle blaster bolts like when he just palmed them in Cloud City is reasonable. He doesn't need to deflect them all if they aren't enough to get past the suit armour.
Empire got a win and a loss today
>>92562193>septuplets>implying they are all sisters>ALL of themI wonder how much identical septuplet twi'leks would cost. Especially since isn't blue supposed to be the rarest skin colour.
>>92560939>thoughts on this character?>MarvelTake a guess
>>92563506>I kind of look at Star Wars as one big ancient myth that's been told a bunch of different ways anyway. We know the key events but when it comes to what characters were thinking and the minutiae it's distorted. Like the Han short first analogy where all we know for sure is Han and Greedo went into that cantina and only Han came out.That's a nice cope
>>92564089>Saw was always operating his own cell.So were all the other rebels who didn't get booted out. The Rebel Alliance is not responsible for the actions of other people fighting the Empire that are not affiliated with them. There's rebels, and there's the Rebels.>but the rebellion would do shady shitI'm sorry stat Star Wars doesn't cater to your boring realism for the sake of sucking off your Imperial boner, but that's how it is.
>>92564089>Because "rule through fear" is just nonsense, it makes everyone want to abandon and destroy the systemDid...you just figure out why the Rebellion was successful all on your own? Good for you!
>>92565828>There's rebels, and there's the Rebels.No true Scottsman. Once the Rebellion forms and makes public it's war with the Empire, anyone can choose to be a proxy in that conflict. the same way that nobody actually cares if there's twenty sub-factions of ISIS, essentially they fall together.>boring realismAnon, your ideal is more boring. 2D, even. It's the sort of perspective that deserves more Sequels.>>92565879Yes, the worldbuilding and conflict development is childish, thank you for agreeing with me. Again, you deserve more Rise of Skywalker-tier Star Wars.
>>92566024>Yes, the worldbuilding and conflict development is childishCope and seethe, that worldbuilding and conflict development built a facet of cinematic legend and pop culture that will be around long after the police discover your body swinging in your crusty apartment.
Thoughts on U-Wing concept art?
>>92566081That one's just a weird re-do of the republic gunship. The U-Wing probably has some of the worst concept art looks, but the final look is beautiful.
>>92565127>Towers Over Everyone>Incredibly Muscular>Wears Sunglasses>Has some connection to one of our PC's grandpa/mentor>Seems to basically just use brute strength>Doesn't care much about anything that isn't The Job or The FightI thought the same as you at first, but I can't just kill the author on this one.
>>92566076>a facet of cinematic legend and pop cultureStar Wars is in the dumps and has almost zero cultural relevancy exactly because retards decided to follow your idea and reprint a blase story.>>92566081Obviously better for a dropship, it was probably changed into the existing U-Wing because of the space aspect of the battle.
>>92566081I like it better than the Imperial LAAT abortion
>>92566081Doesn't fit Rebels universalism.Also, looks way too close to the ST bombers
>>92566081The turrets bother me. Without them, it'd be all right. Same problem the LAAT had, desu, which is why they look so much better without the ball turrets.
>>92566115If it has almost zero cultural relevancy, why do I see Grogu bumper stickers everywhere from one of the largest cities in the region to a rural backwater?
>>92560289Vong?!?
>>92566817wtf! i thought finoaly hated the EU?!?
>>92561277I mean there is a middle ground between pathetic and uber-badass that the OT managed that has failed to be duplicated
>>92561277No-one in Star Wars can do that.
>>92566907>he doesn't know about Legends Grand Master Luke Skywalker bullshit.
>>92567053Legends isn't Star Wars.
>>92566513>why do I see Grogu bumper stickers everywhere from one of the largest cities in the region to a rural backwater?>soccer moms are cultural touchstones
>>92567060Oh, you're one of those people.
>>92561277>Vader wank will always be cringe.Then the whole SW universe is cringe. Because it's requires Vader to be unstopable killing machine.Once Vader became punching sack of dirt franchise practically died
>>92564106>>You can't convince people to risk their lives against a fearmongering terrorist state when you're a fearmongering group of terrorists.
>>92567300-> >>92563675Also, moral highground is subjective by default (for example all developed countries durring period of exponential economic growth completely ignored plenty of moral questions from copyright to human rights). Empire doesn't play fair in terms of propaganda and have fuckhueg administrative resource to push proper narrative on the worlds unaffected by galactic civil war
>>92562594Anon, your failing is the assumption that Vader never adapts to being in the suit.
>>92566024>No true ScottsmanNo dipshit, it's called faction affiliation. Fighting the Empire does not mean automatic membership in the Rebel Alliance. That's why I said Rebels, capitalized. Being seen as all the same by the Empire means nothing.>your ideal is more boringNo anon, it just gets in the way of your desire for the Empire to be redeemable because the forces opposing it are also bad. But that's not how Star Wars works. Too bad, so sad.
>>92567451>No anon, it just gets in the way of your desire for the Empire to be redeemable because the forces opposing it are also bad. But that's not how Star Wars works. Too bad, so sad.NTA but good thing that we are free to make our own decisions and interpretations after TCW trash
>>92567537Not when your interpretations contradict the actual story.
>>92567293Eat shit dumbass. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about puto!
Sio Bibble
>>92561074Lmao, Vader would get fucking rekt if he found himself in a situation like that. I dunno why he constantly gets presented as some unstoppable deity who could wipe away an army on his own, when we never see him display that level of power in any of the movies.
>>92568336Genx Vader worshipping writers, same as the Rogue One hallway scene (which is by contrast internally reasonable, but likewise naked fanservice).
What is the best Twi'lek colour?In fact, what's the best colour for your aliens more generally?
>>92568336>Lmao, Vader would get fucking rekt if he found himself in a situation like that.He wouldn't though, rebels are 100% jobbers who rely on underhanded tactics to defeat our heroes, 10 rebels are equal to one stormtroopers, that's just how weak they are.
>>92567996Nice denial.But without Vader being force of nature the entire plot-twist of jedi going into hidding and waiting untill Luke reaches proper age completely is pointless
>>92568780are you retarded?>our heroeswhat
>>92568700Blue. It's a nice cool color that provides a nice contrast from the usual shades of humans.That's why every setting has some sort of blue space waifus. Like Asari, Tau, Draenei and so on.
>>92568801Vader was a force (kek) of nature up until Obi-Wan came back in Kenobi and beat the shit out of him before leaving him buried under rocks and walking away.
>>92568826Yeah thanks for proving my original point:>>92567293>Once Vader became punching sack of dirt franchise practically died
>>92568812Green is the classic though. Star Trek Orion slave girls? The original Star Wars Twi'lek (Oola) was green/yellow too.
>>92568808>are you retarded?Are you? Imagine thinking the rebels are worth anything.
>>92568700Orange/Red
>>92559915Never understood why he says a lightsaber is a Jedi weapon when he uses one in the prequels
>>92568870Mockery.
>>92568801You are a low IQ retard. Vader was still stronger than any living Jedi other than Luke. Vader was Count Dooku/TPM Maul level, which is stronger than any living Jedi. But he was not a force of nature. Not even close. He was an old fossil, a cripple in the suit, pathetic, sad old man, a shell of his former self, which is why the Emperor wanted to have Luke.Star Wars fags are so media illiterate, it's just baffling.
>>92568841you think Vader losing to Obi-Wan was when the franchise died and not any point before that?? >>92568849You are retarded because you cannot comprehend this story that 8 year olds can understand, you can't like the Empire and realize they are the bad guys?How can star wars fans be so fucking stupid?
>>92568870Because that's a retcon. He was not supposed to use a lightsaber in the OT, just like Yoda.
Vader losing to Obi-Wan wasn't a problem, Obi-Wan just inexplicably leaving him there with no explanation is.
>>92568877>you think Vader losing to Obi-Wan was when the franchise died and not any point before that??Nope, please reread my post
>>92568876>>92568801You are both wrong, its in the middle not either of your extremes.
>>92568889See:>>92562594
>>92568886The problem with that series started king before then.
>>92568885Always thought it would be cool if being a master of the force meant something as pedestrian as a sword fight was beneath you. I dunno just seems silly that old dudes would whack at each other.
>>92568877There's no way anyone can be this dumb, imagine thinking the Empire are the bad guys.
>>92568911That's how it originally was.From the story conference of ROTJ:>Marquand: The Emperor doesn’t have Jedi powers, does he?>Lucas: Well, he is like Yoda: Yoda isn’t a Jedi, the Emperor isn’t a Jedi. Yoda has mystical powers and it’s the same thing with the Emperor; he’s like the grand priest, but he’s not chief of the tribe. Jedi are the chiefs, they are the warriors who go out and fight with their swords. The Emperor and Yoda are the priests who are the spiritual chiefs; they have powers that are much stronger.>Kasdan: The Force was available to anyone who could hook into it?>Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.>Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?>Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it.>Marquand: They use it as a technique.>Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.>Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?>Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?>Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock.>Lucas: It’s true, absolutely true, not that it makes any difference to the story.>Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?>Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.>Kasdan: I accept it, but I don’t like it.
>>92568925In that very movie Luke explicitly states the Force is strong in his family. It's nature, not nurture.
>>92568925Not really, pre-prequal Obi Wan was supposed to be old as fuck (instead of lol, the desert ages you a lot) and he was still using the glowstick
>>92568949You are unironically retarded. Are you the same guy that argues that Vader is supposed to be a force of nature? Wouldn't surprise me if so. All that means is that Luke will have an easier time learning the ways of the Force. It means natural talent, not the capacity for learning the Force in and of itself. It's just that it would take longer for other people to come at the level that Luke would get to much faster due to his innate talent. And that his potential is much higher than some people could ever hope to achieve.
>>92568958So what? How is age relevant to anything? Are you stupid? Why are you so stupid? Are you a fucking Mexican, or something? Why did you type "prequal"? Obi-Wan's age has nothing to do with it. Thinking in RPG-terms, which is what Lucas basically was doing in ROTJ story conference, Obi-Wan was a Jedi, aka warrior with a glow stick, whereas Yoda and Emperor were "spiritual chiefs", "priests."What's with so many outright retarded people ITT all of the sudden? Where did you brown fuckers come from?
Imagine unironically worshiping Lucas like he's some fucking prophet, Jesus fucking Christ. Being a Lucas purist is as retarded as being a Gen X RLM slop-enjoyer that only likes the OT.
>>92568976Darth Vader in New Hope literally called Obi Wan a master of the Force, so why is a supposed master still using a light saber if what has been said in this thread about sword-fighting being apparently something only pleb knights do is supposed to be true? Either Vader is shitting on Ben (which is fine) or Ben is a shitter for being and old master who still uses a sword.
>>92569014Jokes on you, I only like the Richard Pryor Show skit
Why was Yavin so important to the Rebel Alliance?
>>92568801Sorry anon for losing my cool.
>>92568963>Are you the same guy that argues that Vader is supposed to be a force of nature? Wouldn't surprise me if so
>>92569230They found the orb there. It's powers allowed them to warp reality toward their victory.
>>92569230It was just a hiding place among the jungle/forest and a (Aztec/ancient Sith) temple.
>>92569230It's like their cuck cage or something, I dunno, I don't support them.
>>92569260You insolent dumbass.
>>92569318Rebellion is the peak of insolence, how ironical or something.
>>92569321Those bratty Rebels
>>92569361They need a correction!
>>92569383I like how this so quickly became fucked. Storm Troopers were originally supposed to be Elites, which is why they went with Vader to go after Leia. Meanwhile the regular military grunts are never seen on screen, but Storm Troopers can't hit shit and suck ass so Lucas decides to hand wave them needing to be good at their jobs and forgets the regular military exists at all.
>>92569460There was never fucking "Army Troopers" ever envisioned. Outside of Zahn wanting to appeal to WEGfags like Pablo, the Army Troopers are nowhere to be seen in Legends, either.
>>92569321:O damn!
>>92569321But the rebels atleast fight for freedom und democracy!
>>92569460Scout troopers were the real elites. Special forces, operating outside the wire, with a high degree of independence from Imperial command.Also liked to dab on regular Stormtroopers and Imperials.
>>92569460>>92569661Aren't there a bunch of the fuckers standing attention in the background on the Death Star in ANH? Black outfits, wearing shell helmets.
>>92567451>Being seen as all the same by the Empire means nothingPractically speaking, if you can't differentiate between Rebel groups, how are you supposed to make a moral determination that they're more righteous? Again nobody cares if there's actually several hundred ISIS sects.>But that's not how Star Wars worksYou've already explained how you like the Sequels, you don't need to repeat yourself.
Grand Theft Spaceship: CoruscantGrand Theft Spaceship: TatoooineGrand Theft Spaceshift: Nar Shaddaa
>>92569987>he doesn't do versions of Fast and the Furious in Star Wars where the players start out stealing HoloNet transceivers and move on to fighting Vader and flying landspeeders in space>it's about family
>>92570023Familia, anon. It’s my familia
Thoughts on High Republic ships?
>>92570318Most of these are single-appearance, the Longbeam and the Vector are okay but even those have ~1 visual depiction. Some of these are even fanmade designs.
>>92570318Aside from the Paladin and Purrgil, they're Legacy/Deviantart tier. Dropped.
https://youtu.be/5nKLZ2ChqBc?si=eXDLE6YOsSHD68R6
>>92570318They're alright. I think I'd like to see a lot of these in a better format before I made a call, but there isn't anything in here I instantly revolt at.
I know I've seen discussion in here before about what blasters you'd like to see in Star Wars, but how about weapons other than pure blasters? For me, it'd be polearms that double as blasters. Especially poleaxes. Halberds and the rest are cool too, but I think the combination of stabby end, choppy end, and smashy end is unmatched. The ability to retain some ranged capability like those spears the Onderon cavalry use in TCW would be one of my dream weapons in Star Wars.
>>92570844Can we have gunblades?
>>92570844I dunno if a gunaxe makes sense in Star Wars. I know a lot of people grew up on the EU stuff (especially the video games) where Star Wars was a bit weirder, but to me Star Wars is quintessentially WW2-Kino and aside from that one gunsword which did exist it's not really justifiable to put a gun inside an axe instead of just holding an axe while also holding a gun.
I'm going to some planet called Geonosis, and all I know is my Niman form. Will I be alright?
>>92563506It's not, if it was shows like Andor or TCW S7 would've explore more of the delegation of 2000 and other important stuff (funny how Disney fans and fence sitters that love the flashbacks never realize how them not showing that delete scene is important to Andor).Of course the references to the cwmmp books like Labyrinth of evil aren't compatible to tcw or the beginning clearly stating that Anakin and obi-wan were famous figures (aka the most important evidence of why tcw is in-universe fiction).
>>92571121>some bugmen teamed up with our old pal NuteIts literally nothing. All we'll do is brandish our lightsabers and they'll surrender.
>>92571137EU slop was never canon, my dear ESL friend.
>>92571241your campfire story and copy of the red book aren't canon as well.
>>92571215it has to suck when you're some space samurai telepath and you die to some tin can with a gun on a bug planet
>>92571241I don't care. There's fanfiction, Like, actual fanfiction out there that's better than Lucas AND Disney slop using their universe.
>>92571265Right.
160 person SWU tournament in Florida today. $5k in prizing. Top table currently is Palpatine vs Sabine.
>>92571282Why are you posting an infinitely more interesting character than Rey Solo/Solana/Nobody/Palpatine?
Lov
>>92571632>successive evil EmperorSlol
>>92571700Kek, I enjoy reading those 70s-80s Star Wars magazines.
>>92571137>If it was shows like Andor or TCW S7 would've explore more of the delegation of 2000 and other important stuff (funny how Disney fans and fence sitters that love the flashbacks never realize how them not showing that delete scene is important to Andor).Clone Wars was supposed to get into the Delegation of 2000 stuff more in the Mon Cala arc according to Filoni. In fact one of the early pitches for the Season 8 finale was Padme nearly ending the war, almost managing to a sign a treaty with the Separatist Council and Ahsoka would've been her bodyguard, but just as that happens Grievous kidnaps the chancellor and the negotiations break down. The arc ended up being scrapped because of Padme's pregnancy limiting the amount of action she could perform so it was split into the Siege of Mandalore and Mon Cala. One being more action-oriented with Ahsoka and the other political with Padme. But instead of getting basically the other half of the Clone Wars series finale that would've dealt with the bigger picture and been political we got the Bad Batch and Martez sisters. And Padme was relegated to a hologram cameo.
>>92569921>if you can't differentiate between Rebel groupsThe Empire can't differentiate between rebel groups, but that's their problem, not the Alliance's
>>92568949It's both.
>>92570318Some good stuff, but plenty of hangar divas.
>>92559864>TQ: What is your favorite familial relationship in Star Wars?The default iconic white family (not counting the doodoo sequels), but I like force families/ bloodlines in general. If I was dark jedi I would impregnate as many females as possible and raise an a small army of my sons to take part in my crusader mercenary organization that brutalizes evil criminals for fun and loot.
>>92571991It's the Alliance's problem in the same way some Gazan terrorists are all of Palestine's problem.
>>92568336If powerful force users could be killed by armies of peons in a straight up fight then the Republic never would've of needed the Jedi, shrimple as.
>>92572523You are an actual retard and don't understand the role of the Jedi. Are you a EUtroon or something? Did you even watch the fucking movies? I hate you faggots so much, this fandom would be so much better off if you all just died, lol.
>>92572556enough with bait posts already nobody real prefers disney canon over legends
>>92572626You can hide behind your false dichotomy but you will never change the fact that the vast majority of people prefer Lucas canon.
>>92572626But "Legends" stans are Disney canon fans...
>>92571802>Padme completing arduous physical trials while heavily pregnantEL oh el. Story otherwise sounds decent, desu, I enjoyed those political intrigue arcs in season 2(?).
>>92572727Here are my deeply held beliefs for Star Wars...>Rule of cool>No woke shitEveryone who doesn't agree with at least one of these is my enemy.
>>92566081The LAAT was the perfect designThis looks like an abortion
>>92569230Find out in the next Disney+ spinoff: "YAVIN"
>>92571241I would rather sit through the worst books of Legends than even sit through any of the sequel movies again
>>92572718
>>92572888What a weird non-sequitur. Anyways, keep seething about the sequels even though everyone here hates those. The EU will continue to be utter garbage.
How the fuck are MC80 Liberty Types and Home One Types still in service YEARS after Endor? Aren't they meant to be Luxury liners?
>>92572697Sadly, no one gives a shit about what the old man has to say about anything. Doesn't help that he changes his mind every few minutes.>>92572718Sorry, tranny, but Lucas is officially a Disneyfag.
>>92572784Mostly season 3 and a little of 2. They kind of abandoned political arcs after that with the exception of the Clovis trilogy in season 6. So season 8's Padme Mon Cala arc would've been the grand 4-part political finale exploring Palpatine becoming more authoritarian and the Separatist Council who were absent from the show save for Gunray, Poggle and Tambor. Disney have been reluctant to do more political stories since. Closest we get is Andor's Mon Mothma scenes.
>>92573243>Closest we get is Andor's Mon Mothma scenesAnd I've enjoyed those, hope we get more in S2. And thanks for correcting me on where in TCW those episodes fell, I couldn't remember for sure but was too lazy to double check myself.
>>92573408>>92573243DISNEYSHILL
>>92572379>It's the Alliance's problemIt's not, sorry. They already showed they're willing to cut ties to people like Saw, are you suggesting they, what, go fight rebel groups they disagree with? That's retarded.
>>92572789I agree with both.
>>92573663>They already showed they're willing to cut ties to people like Saw, are you suggesting they, what, go fight rebel groups they disagree with? That's retarded.And why not? If the Alliance purports to be moral and to represent a legitimate galactic government in opposition to the Empire, shouldn't they also take responsibility for the overthrow of rebel cells that conduct themselves in such a way that is antithetical to the values of the Republic?Many Middle Eastern countries have also disavowed groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, or Hamas, but if they don't actually do anything against those groups, do you take their claims seriously?
>>92573832>And why not?Well maybe you haven't heard but there's this thing called the Empire that they're fighting, kind of a big deal. >shouldn't they take responsibility for law enforcement?No.
>>92573897If they're not willing to take responsibility for innocent people killed as a result of the chaos of the war or by rebel cells emboldened by their own success, their movement is ultimately morally hollow.
>>92571284Top 16 lists:>4x Boba Fett / ECL>3x Sabine / ECL>Sabine / Yellow>2x Darth Vader / Blue>Darth Vader / Green>Palpatine / Blue>Krennic / ECL>Luke Skywalker / Green>Leia Organa / Red>Han Solo / Tarkintown
>>92573243Andor's (and kenobi show) biggest flaw is that tcw didn't do the set up with the delegation and palpatine getting more powers, especially after the Battle of Coruscant. I think they were aware of it and avoided it to tell lore breaking stuff like kenobi going off planet, bail not being secretive and to dumbing down the empire and rebellion. tcw having a flop finale (narrative wise) really set the norm for the disney era.
What a retarded schizo above me, jeez.
>>92574630People like him cannot be saved. The tragic part is that he is not even fundamentally wrong, just obsessed.
>>92574630>>92575183are you guys 343 halo fans?
I think the moral of the story is:if they're going to keep the cancelled TCW arcs canon, we should see them? I dont care if its in adapted material like a comic (son of dathomir) or novel (dark disciple) just dont just have very important context be in a story we only know a summary ofand fuck fagloni for dedicating season 7 to ahsoka and a bad batch pilot with only 12 episodes
twitch.tv/ppgeventsunlimited semifinals luke vs vader
>>92575419finals boba fett vs vader
>>92575218No.
>>92572932they primarily weren't, and as soon as the New Republic started getting some actual resources behind it the slow process of phasing them out with better warships began.First with MC80 Bs and captured imperial shipsthen republic star destroyersthen mc90sits just that the NR in the immediate post-endor period was still scrapping for whatever it could get its hands on. fleets are expensive and take a lot of time and commitment to build. it wasnt until much later where the NR was actually pumping out dedicated military fleets that werent just what they had on hand, and not long after that the galaxy was invaded and the NR was forced to press the old ass mc80s back into service anyways
>>92562066 Agreed. We saw most of the murder he did off screen but to establish a base as big as it was and everything else. He was a stone cold killer. He later became Don Carnage. (they are really similar actually)
>>92562594 More like if and when Vader accepted that he was a man attached to machines and that instead he was one that was part of the Force. Otherwise it gets Orthodox-Jew-y about not being being fully accepted by the Divine because part of you has been "altered" Or, in sciency-way. whenever the Force parasites in Vader accept whatever things attached to him "as" him and infect them.
>>92562620 Or"Sure, my dad was in the Clone Wars. He was a clone and got thrown on a transport off some world in the middle of it's invasion. he was hurt pretty bad and my mom was a fleet medic. Anyway. the hyperdrive was damaged , the drive flared and this HUGE transport was stuck in the middle of nowhere. it was full of cargo and maybe half of one of it's small holds full of injured and refugees. Well you know the starport right? That. That damage had sent us MONTHS off the main hyperlanes. Anyway, they got here on sublight and the Empire only found out about us later. Dad...was complicated. Not fighting and "running away" (despite his injuries) And, this was near the end right...When he found out what his brothers did. I think it broke him in some ways. Anyway. So here's this big ship (which we'd pretty much emptied in one way or another. We made some deals with some individuals for ships. Paid for with the cargo. And they found out theship may have been damaged but it's weapons and shields were intact. With all that cargo and the demand away from the main lines it only made sense to make a bit of a profit."
>>92576170Plus, lets face it. Member berries was a thing in Legends too. Most of the New Class program was shoved aside for more Liberty Types and Home One Types by the time of LOTF and Caedus, because its what people were familiar with.
>>92569879 those are NAVY troops
>>92576457That was more under Del Rey than Bantam, but it got particularly strong after the Legacy comics came out I think.
>>92570318 They should keep these featureless renders. that way it will look more Flash Gordon Retro cool.
>>92571076 How about a Double bladed Light-Axe or Gigantic Plasma burning Light Claymore?
>>92576497To be fair, if my choices are the horrid designs of the Legacy comics or member berries, I'd pick the berries.
>>92571263 Bugs. Bugs never changes.
>>92576535What I hate about those designs is the long prongs out the bottom of so many Alliance ships. They might be okay if not for that.
>>92576815No. I like Gar Stazi, and the Fel Empire, but lets not delude ourselves into thinking that any of this is ok. Even the Sequel Trilogy had less offensive designs than this.
>>92576457Denning was a hack generally, but numerous New Class ships looked like shit even after the redesigns. Like holy shit the Agave is just awful. And the Sacheen and Corona are no fucking replacements for the Nebulon B.
>>92576555Ahem.FUCK buggers.
>>92576883Am I a bad person because I like those cross-shaped fighters?
>>92576899Nebula and Majestic post-reworks were fine though. The rest are ass though, I agree.
>>92576883Jesus Christ. What were they thinking?
>>92576940What's wrong with the Endurance? It's a more curved and less angular Star Destroyer/Venator.
>>92576996I count Endurance under Nebula. Its good.
>>92577034>>92576996It has that retarded second and third tower sticking out and ruining otherwise smooth lines.
>>92576900 I'm from Naboo and I say kill em all!
>>92577104The only good bug is a dead bug.
>>92577120Bugs are people too, fighting back against outside colonisers.
>>92577132>filthy, chitinous, bug claws typed this post.
>>92576921They'd be fine, even acceptable as some Pinook-tier shitbox out in the galactic fringe, used by mercenaries. It doesn't work as the mainline fighter for the New Republic/Galactic Alliance though.
>>92577174>*angry chittering*
>>92577132 Bet you can't wait to stick your slimy bug ovipositor down some innocent's throat?
>bugs>in MY /swg/
>>92560939sometimes a bit yassy but the moments where we actually see how hurtful and cold she can be felt compelling and gave some needed depth. Lesbian harem is dumb but the only logical good end.
>>92577196Togruta are not innocent. Especially not that one.
>>92571076I could see a bounty hunter using one, someone who wants to be ready for unexpected situations. Djin has a shock prod on his disruptor rifle, to be more prepared.
>>92573992Why would they take responsibility for something they're not responsible for?
>>92569383This was just posted in a group on FB and there is something there....
This is sort of side-related. How much of a Star Wars game could you slide into a Battlestar Galactica sort of campaign?
>>92563040>It is very hard to pin the Republic/Galactic Empire/Rebel Alliance into being one 'sort' of government/membership being dominated by one systemCorrect. But IMO prequels and cartoons (along with novels) really added much more "conservativeness" to the rebels. They fight to restore Republic (well you know the same republic which was runed by the representatives of local nobility from each planet/sector and where planets like Naboo and Alderaan were one of the most respected members).Meanwhile Empire is certainly more modern society, which was intended to bring new order, new way of life, new perspective, it was built by people who appeared out of nowhere during the last years of Republic or during the Clone Wars due to their talents/determination (Tarkin, Thrawn, Yularen)
Darth Vader is a psychopath.
>>92578614>>92578614>>92578614
>>92577104Ugh... Padme's delicious tummy...
>>92576883They look good.
