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Necropotence is back edition

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>Previously:
>>92609298

>TQ
what old card do you want to see getting a new version in MH3?
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>>92615383
>TQ
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I want this game to die
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Delusions of Grandeur
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>>92615408
>Invoke Tolerance
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>>92615383
Apocalypse Chime, but for "All cards originally printed in a Modern Horizons Set"
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>>92615423
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Fuck MH3
Bloomburrow waiting room
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>>92615383
how this card makes you feel anon?
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>>92615439
rotation will save standard bros
I BELIV
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>>92615444
Ready for more delver. Or to play bug beans with this
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which way white man?
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>>92615461
>Shill Gengar
bravo maro
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Manmade Horrors 3 (beyond comprehension)
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>>92615383
>TQ
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>>92615461
that thief of existence ability is so awkward
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>>92615461

is pearl-ear for bogles?
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>TQ
just remove the ante part and it's good
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>TQ

Wirewood Symbiote. It would make Elves T2.
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>>92615524
If bogles can take T3 off to cast that then they already won. It also reduces nothing but all that glitters since everything else is a 1 drop or Coronet which is WW
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>>92615539

or eladamri lord of leaves. a 2 drop with shroud might brick some things, but it would fix a lot.
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>>92615461
Looks bland as fuck but i will take that fox chad anyway
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>>92615508
I get the IDEA of it. It removes something but eventually gives the opponent a card back if it does. Feels weird to have it be green, though, because, sure, green can kill artifacts and enchantments, but it can also just delete Planeswalkers now I guess? Surely white makes more sense for that sort of removal.
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>>92615461
At least they look like magic cards.
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>>92615461
Shilgengar's a lore deep cut at least. He's the guy that Edgar Markov made a pact with for vampirism.
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>>92615608
I'm just talking about the wording. Surely there was a better way to phrase it. It also interacts weirdly with all the eldrazi triggered ability doubling the set seems to have.
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>>92615569

so is it for enchantress?
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>>92615444

Annoyed because it's gain blue intruding on other colorrs' turfs. Blue is the one color in Magic that doesn't need any fucking help, they could literally never print a playable blue card again and 50% of all decks would still be blue until 2150.
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>>92615726
It's for EDH
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>>92615608
I recall Destructor Dragon had a similar phrasing of 'destroy noncreature permanent'. Green has generally been very broad in terms of its removal spells.
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>>92615444

FUCKING PRINT A GREEN MOON FOR ELVES, YOU COWARDS
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>>92615747
I guess the colorless hurdle makes it 'okay' and Eldrazi are sort of a color pie nightmare anyway, but still.
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Im fucking high and drunk Who wants to get raped by my deck on Arena rn

Phonefag btw
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>>92615444
I need Moon effect on all colours.
Is time to punish greedy bastards and shitty manabases.
The age of monocoloured dominance must rise.
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>>92615784
It's in colour mostly for Blue to do it. Red only has it as a sort of grandfathering thing. Green can make everything ALSO a forest, and I think technically can do "all lands becomes tappable for any colour and nothing else".
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>>92615444
It feels like it would have made more sense within White, as a sort of 'soft' form of mass land destruction while also being symmetrical rules-setting.
Being in Blue only seems justified in the context of Blue getting cards that turn things into Islands to enable Islandwalk, but it ignores the actual way a card like this would get used.

If they actually print a full cycle of them though, I'd be all for it.
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>>92615744
Each deck is thematically designed as a celebration of a famous modern/standard archetype... but they're all consoommander decks :(
I would have unironicallu preferred something like a gold border Game Night set with classic modern decks or something, over more fucking commander sloppa in the one set that should have nothing to do with commander
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>>92615444
I wanted a back to basics reprint instead of this shit.
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>>92615798
There's precedent for Blue doing it without islandwalk, at least. Admittedly from MH2.
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>>92615769
Yeah. It's moreso that it's just a very niche/rare effect within Green, and it's usually at more of a premium. Bramblecrush, Mold Shambler, and Rootgrapple are other examples I found from searching.

It's weird, but nothing technically out of pie.
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>>92615648
It should just be two separate abilities, but for some reason they really wanted you to get no downside if you didn't use the removal ability. Seems silly.
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>>92615444
Its a Meh card. Nice if your deck runs around it, but cost as 2 removers and doesnt realy help hmuch
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>>92615809
>Make gold border modern decks
>Price a bundle at 1000 bucks a la m30
Did you rike it?
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>>92615813
newfag
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>>92615813
In terms of changing a single land to an Island, Spreading Seas is probably a better example. But again, the reason those cards exist is in order to enable Islandwalk, and you only need a single land for that.
Having it be all nonbasics is a very different effect.
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>>92615816
All relatively older cards which generally speaks to it not being in Green's pie but I know Horizons sets are always a lot flimsier on the colour pie. Makes me wonder what colours would get Battle removal when those become a proper 'thing' again. White and green?
Also, it's funny that green-black is the current colour of "destroy target permanent" because green-white could do that too, no matter how fucking weird that'd feel.
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>>92615836
>>92615837
Forgot this even existed I'll be honest. But fair, it's an extrapolation. It's sort of "if any colour has this effect in its pie, it's probably blue". Back to Basics is probably the sort of 'clearer' precedent on that front. Nonbasic hate exists in some form in every colour (except black I guess) though.
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Purple mana when MaRo? And this point
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>>92615809
>Energy
>Jeskai instead of Temur
What the fuck?
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>>92615810
I wouldn't have minded a Back to Basics on a body. Who the fuck asked for Blued Moon on a body?
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>>92615862
Mechanics don't matter anymore, remember when Jeskai got Convoke for the MOM precons?
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>>92615383
Literally why not just reprint Necropotence? That drawback is irrelevant. Print the iconic card instead of coming up with lame variants.
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>>92615874
Convoke's in every colour as of MOM. It's more prominent in white, though, I think.
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>>92615461
>Auras restriction card draw for White
It’s shit. Sram already exists and is better by a mile
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>>92615842
>Makes me wonder what colours would get Battle removal
Green get's Atraxa's Fall, which destroys battles. I'm not sure why you're acting like 'destroy noncreature permanent' isn't a Green effect. It's not a commonly printed effect because it's a powerful effect, not because it's not a Green effect
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>>92615903
It's moreso that Green doesn't get it nowadays that often. I dunno if that's a "not in the pie" or "they're just not printing it", though. Horizons sets don't really answer that either way, because they're always a bit stretching of the pie.
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Never lost a match in commander with mono red zozu commander and this
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>>92615853
Personally I see it as the difference between Red getting single-target land destruction and White getting mass land destruction.
Suddenly nullifying all of the nonbasics on the board feels more White, because it's about leveling the playing field.
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>>92615929
I think there's an argument for White getting a similar effect, to be sure. It's just that, disregarding Red having it as a grandfathering deal, Blue is the likeliest one to have it because it has more precedence for turning off nonbasics. White's more likely to just destroy nonbasics.
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>>92615383
>TQ
>what old card do you want to see getting a new version in MH3?
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>>92615461
I'm glad I don't actually care about Modern so I can just see the cool deeper cut lore characters getting cards. Pearl-Ear was from the Kamigawa novels, Shilgengar's from the origins of Innistradi vampirism. Just give me a fucking Kallist card already, though.
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>>92615984
I mean at this point they might as well
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>>92615984
A leaker apparently said there was something like that. Something to the effect of imprinting a 7+ drop to make an Ancient Tomb-like effect?
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I am still predicting:
Sylvan Library shifted to black
A legendary artifact equipment called "The Pearl Trident"
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>>92615461
>ShilGENGAR
>Elder Demon
>makes Blood tokens
>bonus tokens for killing Angels
>reanimates creatures and makes them Vampires
Is this the edgiest commander since Kaalia?
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>>92615461
Why in god's name is Thief green (devoid)? Is this not a W/B effect?
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>>92615508
it's another effect of the arenafication of the game. alchemy is going to be paper sooner, rather than later.
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>>92616031
I feel like they basically just designed him entirely top-down from what he is in lore, so I suppose he comes across that way.
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>>92616031
>Is this the edgiest commander since Kaalia?
No, silly, it's a MODERN card. Why else would they put it in MODERN horizons?
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>>92616031
I like him because he uses blood tokens
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>>92616032
Green apparently gets "destroy target noncreature permanent", sort of. It doesn't really SPECIFICALLY kill planeswalkers (except for Nissa's Defeat), but it has gotten "noncreature" in the past.
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>>92616032
It's not a break and I'm skeptical it's even a bend. The most egregious part about this card is that it says 'nonland'.
Compare to Acidic Slime, Bramblecrush, etc.., "Destroy Non-creature permanent" is more green than anything else though obviously white should be able to do this as well via Oblivion Ring style effects but those can hit creatures too.
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>>92616044
Ah, right I forgot about the MODERN preconstructed decks.
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I can't belive wotc re-printed the one card I wanted for modern in MH3. Affinity players eating good rn
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>>92616032
I thought all the people who cared about color identity offed themselves years ago, how'd you survive the last half a decade?
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>>92616097
>gavin verhey released a video yesterday talking about ward
>mentioned cannoneer as a massive mistake because it was never meant to find its way into legacy
>today it is leaked that its going to be in modern
LMAO FUCK THIS GAME
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>>92615738
Bro don't you enjoy blue vigilance and land hate?
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>>92616284
>>92615738
I want arena zoomers to go back
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>>92615444
my islands
my basics
my moon
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>>92615419
UUUU
Whenever an opponent casts a creature spell that doesn’t share a color with a creature you control, you may pay X, where X is its mana value, you gain control of that creature.
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>>92615444
>hate the excessive winking and nodding that's been in magic of late
>also angry that nothing in the name or artwork signals a blood moon effect
How do I reconcile this?
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>>92616239
Do not tempt the monkeys paw, anon
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>>92615461
That demon is so cool, very interesting deck. Also, who is he in the lore? Probably strong considering he's an Elder Demon
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>>92616104
I only started playing again last year after not playing since 2014. I regret everything.
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>>92616435
He's the guy Edgar Markov made a deal with to uncover the blood ritual that made the first Innistrad vampire (Sorin).
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>>92616097
Is this not guaranteed to be a 3-of in modern affinity? Is this not fucking insane?
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>>92616480
Anon that card is legacy playable and why 8cast even exists.
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>>92616431
>monkeys paw
Kek
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>>92616480
its going to be a modern staple alongside Simulacrum Sinthesizer
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>>92616435
>>92615461
Actually the more i think about it, the cooler he seems. You can go angel tribal with a demon at the helm (which is conceptually cool), then you play the smaller angels to sacrfiice and make blood tokens which you can use to throw the larger angels into the graveyard to reanimate
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>>92616505
Thats all cool but its literally just a draft chaff bulk rare that will see 0 play in any other format other than limited and some kids commander deck.
Cool concept tho
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>>92616505
Wonder if we'll get the angel that was killed to make the first vampire, if Shilgengar's there. Marycz, apparently. They usually do twofer deep pulls if they can, don't they?
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>>92615836
>too strong, preemptively banned in Historic
>this is fine, though ;)
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>>92616492
Just invested a whopping $6 CAD into the last 4 copies at my LGS, hope my investment pays off jej
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MH3 looks so boring so far. The power level is there but it's all just "hey remember this legacy/vintage card? here's something that's kind of similar to it!"
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>>92616539
So you're saying there's a chance MaRo drops a dank BOGO on us?
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>>92616582
That's what much of MH2 was too.
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>>92616586
Maro isn't really involved with MH3 at all, to my understanding.
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>>92615444
>magus of the moon In a playable tribe that pitches to both forces
It was fun enjoying legacy while it lasted.
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>>92616582
>>92616591
The future is now old man. WotC will mine you of all your remaining value and move on to the zoomers with FunkoPOP crossover marketing FORTNITE edition.

Yoo vill consoom ze powercreep nostalgia und yoo vill be heppy.
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>>92616609
at best it'll be a sideboard card against something like post. there are plenty of top tier 3 drops competing for a spot in merfolk lists as is.
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>>92616609
Brooo it's sooo hard to add mana on a vial activation to bolt the creature!
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>>92616606
Thanks for the input, autismo.
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>>92615461
>green skyclave apparition
WOTC STOP FUCKING WHITE I SWEAR TO ACTUAL GOD
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>>92616638
Actually that card is colorless.
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>>92616630
Yeah, but it has a ton more flexibility. It might just replace BtB which has been on the rise lately. It will disrupt the format more than people think.
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>>92616649
Shut the fuck up maro
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>>92616649
It IDENTIFIES as Green though :^)
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>>92615461
Mono W demon when
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>meta in modern
>plays well in Affinity, the most patrician aggro deck
>the only wanted poster that looks good
Apologize
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>tfw ChessNight5030 ends your trophy run
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>>92616423
The flavor text does.
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>>92616668
Maro isn't really involved with MH3 at all, to my understanding.
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Does anyone know if Ad Nauseum in modern is FNM viable in current year? I haven't played the format since November and I'm Belcher'd out.
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>>92616423
Winking and nodding when they reference other Magic cards or parts of Magic lore is fine. Winking and nodding when they reference real life is cringe inducing.
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but if I hypothetically wanted to get alternate art drawn on Negan, The Cold-Blooded by either Ryan Ottley or Charlie Adlard at a convention, how would I go about removing the art that’s in the text box without fucking up the actual text? Is it even doable? Would I be better off just requesting that they kinda draw over the text box art a little bit or what? I mean, it’s really just his hand that would be jarring when compared against a more comic-style Negan drawn in the main art box.
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>>92616724
This. References to past sets or cards are tasteful so long as the design isn't a hamfisted power crept version of the old card and doesn't feature art that bastardizes the original character (or spell, etc) design.
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>>92616740
Your best bet is to white out everything except the name, power/toughness, and the frame. Even if you do nothing except make the text box opaque, it will look better.
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>>92616423
>>92616724
>>92616750
Good but also it needs to be rare. The constant flood of memberberries makes it all distasteful.
If a color-shifted moon showed up in an otherwise normal set it would be hype. If it shows up surrounded by 50 other berries it's cringe.
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>>92616740
Kill yourself UB slop consuming commandshit

To answer your question, what you're asking for is more or less impossible unless you have a very careful hand and alot of time. If the card is foil, you'd need to carefully use acetone to precisely clear the textbox, then have the alter applied. After that, you'd need to use a printer to physically print new text onto your card. There's a guide somewhere about doing printer alters, but you more or less have one chance and if you screw it up your card will be butchered. It's probably best to just have it drawn over.
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>>92615461
Look at all these fucking words, its like I'm looking at a Yugioh card.
>>92616052
It says non-land because Tron can cast it on curve like a fucking Sinkhole if they Play Eldrazi Temple
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>>92616740
acetone and painter's tape
try it on a land first
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>>92616780
This man speaks the truth
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>>92616685
>>the only wanted poster that looks good
Is this bait? Satoru is one of the worst looking of the wanted posters (tied with Annie and Rakdos)
The best are Eriette, Tinybones, and Kellan. In fact, the wanted poster is the first actual good art for Kellan.
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>>92616846
>>92616685
None of them look good
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I am so fucking sick of the ENTIRE COLOR OF RED. It is legitimately a broken color that is warping the whole fucking game.
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>>92616885
This but with blue
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>>92616885
>>92616905
t. Green players
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>>92616885
This is only because for the majority of R's lifespan it's been "other colors, but worse because muh risk mechanics are my color pie slice." What I am sick of is that R has gone from "discard to draw" to "draw to discard" to "exile the top and play if you want" because WotC is too scared to give them clean color breaks at a higher cost and clash with their low-mana aggro archetype.
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>>92616914
I am a Mardu player (I’m the guy who hates blue)
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>>92616885
Now that the dust has settled, what did he mean by this?
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>>92616929
Anon lost to somebody playing Burn in standard Best-of-one on the MTG Arena Ranked Ladder and that caused anon to pop his pants in front of everyone.
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Was playing a really evenly-matched standard game on Arena and the guy scooped as soon as I pulled off my Mishra, Lost to Phyrexia meld. What the fuck was his problem?
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>>92616929
>SSS
>Swiftspear
>Swiftspear in Pauper. I don't care that it's banned. Never should have happened, what were they thinking?
>9 million impulse effects
>Bullshit Rage
He's right actually
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>>92616719
it catches some people off guard but it's very slow by today's standards
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>>92616945
I actually hate when Arena Players press concede instead of auto resolve when I'm playing my retarded brick-fest combo decks. Do not fucking deny me the satisfaction of seeing the cards bounce across the screen after my intense game of Solitaire.
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Do people play Magic in stores anymore? Feels like anyone that still plays is a literal commander tranny playing in a basement somewhere or grinding Arena/MTGO.
The shitty pushed products and UB trash will probably get even more desperate as they try to squeeze blood from the stone.
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>>92617019
I go twice a week
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>>92617019
I actually bought into burn last year selling some unused cards but I just cannot muster the energy to go play it. Like the last thing I want to do after work is drive 25 minutes to the LGS, pay 10 bucks for an entry fee, and go 2-2.
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>>92617019
There are people in stores, but it's not as universal as it used to be. There's a lot of stores now that are just like 6-8 EDH players max, where they used to get 20+ for Modern alone. Of course there's still some stores where they have loads of people playing various formats, but that increasingly feels like the exception.
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>>92617019
my LGS holds Modern FNM every Friday Night, but I haven't been in over a month because I got really fucking annoyed with some of the faggots that play there. Actual bootlicking retards who think that Modern Horizons 1 and 2 were good for the Format because "Everyone plays interaction now"
>>92617052
Burn is kinda in a real dogshit position meta-wise, at least in Modern. You don't go particularly wide and you every fucking creature they print these days has +4 Toughness. The deck goes fast, but it doesn't go long. In [CURRENT YEAR] MTG being on the play has a direct linear relation to weather you win the match or not.
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>>92616982
Man my deck isn’t even like that, it’s just the one copy of Phyrexian Dragon Engine and the one copy of Mishra, I almost never get to meld them I legit don’t even know what it does when it enters the field after melding
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>>92617019
My store stopped holding Thursday Night Magic tournaments and I don’t feel like driving across town to the bigger “better” comic shop to play in theirs with people I don’t know or see regularly. I miss going to prereleases and stuff.
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>>92617104
>Actual bootlicking retards who think that Modern Horizons 1 and 2 were good for the Format because "Everyone plays interaction now"

They should've just been playing Legacy
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>>92617130
Also my former second-best friend literally trooned out and became a weird depressed recluse and he’s who I would always play in the 2v2 prereleases with
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>>92617152
I'm so sorry man
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>>92617149
They literally already were, One of them is an obese single guy in his late 40s who was playing Magic back when revised was new, faggot talks about how he used his old cards to buy his fucking condo.
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>>92617019
Admittedly a commander cissy, I've been over to the LGS with a friend every once in a while. Usually for free-play EDH nights on account of me being a poorfag and not really having the schedule to meet up for Modern or Draft nights, but I landed 3rd in my first Draft a few weeks back on an odd-numbered bracket technicality.
Our place is fairly puny compared to another friend of ours out in Michigan though, he's been the announcer for their fledgling streams of their tournament scene (predominately Pauper). Their peak so far has been something like 60 concurrent viewers on Twitch while broadcasting their $1k Pioneer tourney.
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>>92617019
I only really get together with friends to play some EDH matches. I only really played pre releases on stores but I can't really be arsed to anymore thanks to the price increases and retarded P L A Y B O O S T E R changes. Eldraine was suprisingly fun despite ONE being utter garbage, haven't played anything ever since, I might make an expcetion for Bloomburrow if the set isn't pure cancer.
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>>92617180
I struggle to comprehend what's going through the mind of someone who plays both Modern and Legacy in [current year] and says "This is fine"
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>>92617222
Bloomburrow will be ass because WotC is too gay (homosexual) to do Redwall crossover cards like they did with Godzilla for Ikoria
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>>92617162
It is what it is, I have other friends who play(ed) the game who I could hit up and see about getting back into physical magic together. I still don’t wanna go to the other store across town, but I don’t really have a choice.
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>>92617277
I mean the last thing I care about is more UBs at the moment, as long as the set plays okay on limited format I might give it a try. From the looks of their current lineup of MORE REMASTERS, MAHVEL, FF, ASSCREED UBS, MORE MANMADE HORRORS, SPOOKY SCARY HOUSES, TRON RIPOFFS. Bloomburrow might be the last decent set we see in modern magic.
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>>92617349
The FIRST thing you think of with Death Race is Tron, of all things?
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>>92617393
I'll try to think about Mario Kart the next time I look at the red vehicle thing.
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>>92617408
I hate that they moved from Kaladesh's sleek-but-still-fantasy dragsters to literal cars with New Capenna. Now we just get 1:1 monster trucks in the concept art because fuck everything.
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>>92617408
Definitely has some Tron-ish influence but it looks more generically cyberpunk. Wacky Races is the most obvious derogatory comparison though.
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>>92616982
Back when I played arena I had a rule. if i was dead on board and they took the kill shot immediately? Yeah i auto passed.

If i was dead on board, and it was clear i was, If they continued to pissed around playing even one more land, or cast an unneeded creature. I conceded. I gave them the chance to see their combo, i wasn't going to stick around for extra time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWBHyPOyXoM
GB cosplaying as hard as it can
how the mighty have fallen
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The only saving grace is that Kappa Cannonier doesn't draw cards off of Satoru
Affinity seems kind of obnoxious right now, that shit is going to be straight busted in a month. Between this shit and Simulacrum, this is going to be some hard beat and resilient beat down
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>>92617429
It's okay, Maro's holding the integrity of the MTG multiverse together by not allowing literal guns into it.

>>92617433
I only mentioned Tron because that's what I remembered from the concept art, in hindsight I'm being too generous though because we all know Wacky Races with Planeswalkers and their coooool rides is what we'll be getting.
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Commander sucks dick and it pisses me off that everyone insists on playing it
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>>92617457
I'm really mad at myself now that I didn't buy Simulacrum for use outside of Modern when it came out since I can't justify buying a set at the current price and it sure as hell isn't going down now
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>>92617489
That implies we'll get more than one Planeswalker but they're sticking to that arbitrary rule for the most part (Jace in OTJ is because of BIG, that's not gonna be the norm).
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>>92617393
im hoping deathrace will be half decent, but we all know the chances are slim. also Duskmourn but .....
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>>92615738
Bro blue was changing lands, both en-masse and individually since before you were born.
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>>92617776
How the fuck do you people still have any hope at all? Whatever shred of hope I had died with ONE or MOM or whatever that bullshit was.
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>>92617827
what's so bad about phyrexia?
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>>92617620
I'm not talking about the cards type, I mean the gazillion legendary creatures from different planes who are essentially planeswalking but not really because proper planeswalker cards aren't popular in EDH.
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>>92617848
>new phyrexia has the forces to invade every plane in existence simultaneously even after fighting a years-long civil war
>planeswalkers are compleated, oceans of theros turned to oil in an instant, beasts of ikoria corrupted, amonkhet even more fucked than it was before, all hope is lost
>nah nvm norn gets shitted on the same set and every plane managed to just shake the phyrexians off like nothing and all the PWs are fine now too
It was literally nauseating.
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>>92615461
>nobody has even mentioned the nerfed Gilded Drake reprint
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>>92617447
I just continually spam “your go” if they can clearly full swing and kill me even if I block and they just choose not to
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>>92617899
>nerfed
>always removal, even without energy
>if they don't have a target you can just get a 3/2 flyer with protection
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The powercreep is so severe I don't think tempo even exists as a concept in Magic anymore. You just play busted cards every turn, any one of them capable of just winning the game.
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mark my words
mh3 will have a companion
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Is MH3 the most creatively bankrupt set of all time?
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Is it even possible to build an EDH deck that doesnt cost like $300. Everyone at my LGS that isnt using an out the box precon (which is its own tables) uses extremely sweaty custom decks theyve aped from Archidekt or EDHrec that cost like $800 where pretty much any card they play will end your game by turn 5 or 6.

I want to move to standard but pretty much all my friends exclusively play EDH.
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>>92618010
MH4 is worse
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>>92618063
but anon... the price point...
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Amalia brings me joy.
The only fun I still have with this shit game.
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>>92618010
>>92618067
Pioneer Horizons was literally half reprints of Modern Horizons and half powercrept versions of cards that Pioneer already had.
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>>92618193
>powercrept versions of cards that Pioneer already had
that's literally the entire point of horizons sets
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TURN IT OFF CERNFAG!!
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>>92618063
A good game of edh is where you can go fast and blend your opponents unless they have a contingency plan for not being a fuckond bitch. Get you cheeks clapped sonny haha
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>>92618193
What about Legacy Horizons introducing
>Do thing
>Do thing again
>And again
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>>92618223
>haha a retarded version of multiplayer modern yugioh xdddddd
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>>92618139
I play an Arena Brawl deck with her and have thought about building her in paper. Just need to figure out how to make it feel different enough that one doesn't make the other feel redundant.
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>>92618231
>ngmi
I swing for lethal commander again.
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>>92618241
Your containment thread is just around the block sister.
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>>92618242
Thanks babe. Ill head back when im done here
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>>92618227
It was a derivitive piece of shit, but at least it was mostly commander bait. I don't think anything is going to hurt Legacy like the Harry Potter UB set did.
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>>92615461
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>>92618242
What i mean is, its a pay to win game. Do your best but know that o, you wont enter high tier gameplay without breaking your bank. Unless you use proxies, thats the gamer move right there.
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>>92618271
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>>92618242
The way to go, is to pick a 1-5 drop commander that you can play over and over and not get bored, and slowly accumulate all the pieces to make it top tier. Spend 50 bucks a month and in a year youll be there. Besides. Its way better to have one good deck than 5 mediocre decks. Think of your cards as extentions of your will, avatars of your mind if you kight. Project your idea with purpose and do not stray from the path lest you fold to other game after game.
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>>92617959
But it's a 3/2 instead of a 3/3 so it's dEfiNiTeLY not a functional reprint, it dies to Shock instead of Bolt so the collectors can't get buttmad.
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>>92618242
And have removal for gods sake. People need to be fucked with if you dont want them to win, christ man.
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>>92616097

why is blue getting all the op creatures? murktide was insane and now this. they're gonna unban hogaak soon.
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>>92617972

reanimator just went to the brainstorm package so tempochads on top
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>>92618316
Is this a viable commander to build a Landfall deck around if I stack it with graveyard recursion?
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>>92618384
They won't unban Hogaak, but they WILL print a powercrept version of him.
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>*BANG BANG BANG*
>CAM ON LEEKERS
>*BANG BANG BANG*
>SHOW SAM FACKIN COMMONS
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It's kinda funny how likely a few people know most if not all cards and are just trickling them out for clout. They also have the ability to offload reprints for a few days and buy stuff that was not reprinted.
Also heard that the white card of the free spell cycle is teferi's protection
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>>92615461
>shill gengar
????
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>>92615809
I get the jund midrange tarmogyf girl, and I get the Eldrazi winter deck, but what do Vesuva and Energy have to do with the history of Modern? I do not recall Energy ever being particularly potent, and Vesusva has always been a Dark Depths card
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>>92615738
Turning lands into Islands has been a Blue mechanic for decades
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>>92615862
This is what's pissing me off the most about all of this shit. What in the fuck were they fucking thinking...
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>>92618745
I always thought energy should have been Jeskai-focused anyway
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>>92615862
>>92618745
>>92618785
Energy should have always been restricted to only izzet cards
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>>92615444
a lot worse than Magus because blue is a useful colour and red isn't
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>>92618785
>>92618792
Energy had good cards in every colour, but Temur was THE energy deck
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>>92616228
modern is irredeemable shit anyway
just play legacy at this point
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https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/collectors-obsession-wisconsin-man-amasses-138-000-copies-of-one-magic-the-gathering-card
So there is a guy with 138 000 copies of stone rain and I don't know what to do with this information
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Now everyone is waiting to know if the brainstorm is from the commander decks or not
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>>92618958
if they print brainstorm into modern, it's genuinely fucking over and legacy is officially the correct old format to be playing
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>>92618958
If they print Brainstorm into Modern it would no longer have any reason to exist as a format. It would just be retarded gimped Legacy.
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>>92619012
legacy without the checks of force and wasteland, it would be a horrible, horrible format
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Is Cunning Coyote better than Red Herring in Standard monored, especially with other plot cards?
>plot to avoid eating removal
>gives haste (good if running non haste)
Or
>draws card if at stalemate or worse
>must attack so very likely to die
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>>92619015
Don't worry, they'll print a better Force of Will that doesn't cost 1 life and a Wasteland for each color instead of just having the colorless one.
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>>92619033
I feel like Reckless Lackey does Red Herring's job for cheaper. So yeah, Coyote is probably better for the 2-drop slot. Though there's also Charming Scoundrel, Fugitive Codebreaker, and SSS in that slot. Lots of options.
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>Man-made Horrors 3 Coomander precons are designed in such a way that buying four copies of them gives you a fully playable and competitive deck for the new post-MH3 meta
Anons, how would you feel about this?
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>>92619082
I see. I'm running 4 Embereth Veteran, I should swap them out for Lackeys, yeah?
I haven't had the ability work even once, since most times I either want to trade the Veteran for their creature, or I get 2-for-1'd with them just blowing up the target for the Role.
Also, I'm playing suboptimally because it's paper and shipping takes like 3 weeks
SSS is really good, but I only have 2. That shit is fucking expensive. SSS and Cacophony Scamp on the board at the same time can be a blow out and I had that happen once, felt really good lol
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>>92618958
>Brainstorm
>Almost 100% in MH3 actual set
Anon... I...
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>>92616685
I got 3 Satorus at pre-release, do I build a deck around it? Are the 4 Ornithopters enough synergy?
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>>92615383
I can't wait to pay 44345532 dollarinos for those hecking cool new cards oh my god broooos I'm gonna collect all 50 new versions, plus halu foils
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Playing Legacy on MTGO for the past week has really highlighted a couple of things to me;
-Most games are won or lost based on the strength of your opening hand with few other factors outside of the matchup and play/draw
-Given the above, going below 6 is more or less a death sentence outside of specific decks
-Given both of the above, consistency, and therefore card quality, is king which is why I believe this guy has been getting a trophy every day
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6341402#paper

Black has received some disgustingly powerful cards over the past year. Dauthi Voidwalker is not a balanced card and nor is Grief.

>>92618958
I chose a great time to have modern dredge 95% complete.
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>>92616718
Shut the fuck up maro
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>>92619334
>Grief go brrrrrrrrr
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>>92619334
>another thoughtsieze deck
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>force of will pitching ornithopter
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>>92619416
what is he saying is real?
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>Ponder banned
>Let's print brainstorm!
And somehow, I still can believe it happening
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>>92619439
The leaked photos, although I'm not sure what specifically. It's not my screenshot.
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>>92619119
As if they'd put good manabase in precons.
Have fun paying 4x90 bucks for your playset of one checkland and one slowland
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>>92619334
>Most games are won or lost based on the strength of your opening hand with few other factors outside of the matchup and play/draw
This is true of every format other than limited
If you keep a slow hand in standard, you're dying to Boros Convoke on turn 4
>Given the above, going below 6 is more or less a death sentence outside of specific decks
Pointless statement
Decks that are based around grindy value need card advantage early on, and mulligans hurt
Fast decks or combo decks can win with the correct 3 cards and can mulligan extremely well
>Given both of the above, consistency, and therefore card quality, is king which is why I believe this guy has been getting a trophy every day
Mono black is decent and you wouldn't be embarrassed taking it to a tournament, but it is a tier 3 deck for a reason
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>>92619456
>This is true of every format other than limited
It's also a very large factor in limited
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>>92619460
you need lands and spells
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>>92619416
>Cat support
Ajani bros our time is near!!!
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>>92615886
>Literally why not just reprint Necropotence?
Because it doesn't have the word "draw" on it thus doesn't synergise with Sheoldred.
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>>92619456
>Fast decks or combo decks can win with the correct 3 cards and can mulligan extremely well
This is true for lightning fast combo decks like Spy, but if you keep a small hand in reanimator with no disruption or a stompy hand where the threat you play just gets removed, you pretty much lose on the spot unless you topdeck like a god. Lands is also an example of a deck that can aggressively mulligan until it gets one of its engines.

While typing this I'm starting to wonder if it's worth keeping very average do nothing hands as long as they have at least SOME lands and SOME spells rather than going lower.

I think monoblack is better than people give it credit for although I can see it struggling with fast combo and don't see why that guy isn't running Opposition Agent.
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>>92615383
>necrodominance will be legal in legacy
>meanwhile yawgmoth's bargain is too good
can't make this shit up
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>>92618958
There's no fucking way this is real.
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>>92618958
>>92619158
Brainstorm uh? They seriously want to kill the format or something...
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>>92619535
yeah the guy is just messing with people, he went out of his way to not show the set symbol for brainstorm
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Swamp, Dark Ritual, nuCropotence, Lotus Petal, Crop Rotation for Reliquary Tower, end step draw 15, pass turn.
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>>92619503
I often win with Doomsday going down to 4
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>>92619581
i scoop, gg
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>>92619535
Wotc is stupid enough to do it. 5 years ago everyone would have called it complete bs, but now it's possible
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>Reducing your maximum hand size to 5
Sweet I have to pay 2 less life to discard this Griselbrand lmao
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I remember joking a couple months ago about Cephalid Coliseum in Modern allowing you to deal 6 to your opponent with Sheoldred out :/
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>>92619606
average attentionspan of numtg player at display errypony
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I LOVE THE LIST MYTHIC UNIQUE BONUSHEET
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>>92619633
Why?
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>>92619611
I also remember, I'm the guy who predicted it
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91639477/#q91644846
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>>92619636
because nobody believed me when I said it would make limited shit and constructed expensive
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>>92616581
I doubt it will go up. Look at Thought Monitor.
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>>92615439
>group hug
Why have any hope when they are catering not just to commander players but the durdliest of do-nothing commander players who would rather make the game interminable than run even one win condition?
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>>92616688
Magic speaks for itself.
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>>92618958
Why can't these subhumans take pictures of the cards? Lay them the fuck out in front of you and take a clear picture, how fucking hard can it be?
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I hate that there are people excited and that care about MH3 in this thread. I hate it even more than Wizards.
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>>92619706
Those pictures are intentional spoilers from WotC to gauge interest in the set so they know how much of it to print in the first run.
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>>92619724
That makes no sense, I only want to look at the ship sinking.
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>>92619743
>That makes no sense
It makes perfect sense. WotC aren't sure how well the set is going to do because Modern is dead, so fake leaks like this are a good way to see how much interest there is.
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>>92619724
Bro, shit gets printed months in advance, that stuff is already in boxes ready to ship
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>Wizards prints too much cardboard
>Forced to store it in a random warehouse until its rediscovered in the future
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>>92619785
>wizards 'accidentally' finds several thousand abandoned warehouses with boxes full of sealed BUR boxes
If only the paw would curl
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Finally, some good fucking Eldrazi
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>>92619753
It makese sense only in your head.
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The black pitch spell will be Hymn to Tourach
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>>92619710
they/them, anon. not it
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>>92619836
Considering these "leaks" always generate hype a company would be stupid to NOT do them.
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>>92619840
>We didn't expect people to use grief with undying evil and then sacrificing it to the black free spell to take 4 cards from opponent's hand on turn 1
I can already see it
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>>92619842
The fact.
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>>92619860
Haha wouldn't it be funny if the black one was instant speed so you could sac Grief to it hahaha
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>>92619710
I hate that people keep buying the absolute dogshit that wotc keeps producing because it further encourages wotc to ruin the game instead of making a quality product like they used to
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>>92619840
That wouldn't sell packs. It's Prayer to Tourach, a fixed version of Hymn for Modern.
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Unsurprisingly, Blue got another free counter spell
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>>92619869
Well yeah that goes without saying.
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>>92618958
>same art
Its a "list" style card.

>>92619033
Absolutely. Coyote is being slept on hard. It is almost good enough for older formats due to shenanigans (but obviously outclassed by SSS).
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>>92619877
I feel like this card can be absolutely fucking busted. Now all the time when the opponent has a blue creature they can counter your stuff without holding mana up
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>>92619884
Wonder if it'll make Augur of Bolas playable.
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So lets get down to the real question MH3 poses: If Buried Alive is in the set, why is Faithless Looting staying banned?
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>>92619901
Do you want scam to be even stronger
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>>92619901
>turn 1 vs turn 3
My foils will spike like crazy.
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>>92619832
>Several thousand warehouses
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honest question: when modern started to be this shit?
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>>92619954
War of the Spark is the point it all began. MH1 is the point at which it became clear that WAR wasn't a mistake they intended to fix.
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>>92619954
War of the Spark.
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>>92615383
>necropotence that triggers orc

Absolutely shit design card
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>>92616338
Make it 2 blue and it's actually decent
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>>92620026
If the draw was a reflexive trigger I'd agree with you but as it stands you only trigger Bowmasters if you choose to draw.
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MH1 had 46 legacy reprints
MH2 had 53 legacy reprints
will MH3 have even more? at some point doesn't that just make modern become legacy without the reserved list?
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>>92619840
It's gonna be Doom Blade and you know it
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Please let the red flare be Stone Rain. PLEASE.
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>>92619834
Hmm.. 3 mana draw 2... Not sure if I care about it. I was hoping for some new stuff that could boost blue tron, but this doesn't look too interesting to me.
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>>92620129
there should be a better blue eldrazi in the set, it's a major theme
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>>92620129
It's all fun and games until people remember Heartless Summoning exists.
>U for Nulldrifter, draw 2
>In response to Evoke I'll Undying Evil it
>Now I have a 4/4 flier with Annihilator 1 :-D
What a shame graveyard flicker effects aren't very good in Modern oh wait.
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>>92620150
>I have a 4/4 flier
a 3/3 if heartless summoning is still in play
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>>92620164
No it isn't.
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>>92619954
always was
only people who will deny it bought tarmogoyf coin
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>>92620109
it's gonna be bolt, pyrokinesis, or some bullshit like creature gets double strike
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>>92620146
Hope so. I know blue tron is not a very optimal deck, but I think it's a lot of fun to play.
>>92620150
I was thinking more in tron context. It's either evoke for 3 mana, or cast for 3 "tron mana". If I have tron on turn 3, then I want to cast something more brutal than that.
Don't get me wrong, draw 2 cast trigger and a flying 4/4 with annihilator is pretty brutal, but I think tron already has access to more powerful cards.
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>>92620176
I would actually be ok with a Pyrokinesis effect, but let an anon dream...
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>>92620170
ah, I missed undying evil, thought it was ephemerate because that's what people use with mulldrifter, my bad
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>>92618958
looks like the phoenix is an enchantment creature
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>>92620176
>yfw it's Wheel
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>>92615383
So this is the next banned thing in Legacy right?

T1 Dark ritual + necro draw 19
T2 Dark ritual + sheoldred draw entire library
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>>92620245
uhm...I'm pretty sure that NUcropotence do not work like this
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>>92620245
I wouldn't be surprised if blue Magus gets banned. Blood Moon is kept in check by being red, but now any old Delver pile can run this cunt and randomly punk people out of games.
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Leak more energy cards, please. I want to watch the world burn.
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>>92620275
Calling it now, there will be a Lightning Bolt where you can spend energy for damage. Its about time burn got something new that isn't a creature.
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>>92620294
So, Harnessed Lightning but it can hit players?
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>>92620037
actuall scratch that, only single U is good enough to see play as to get under raggy van
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>>92620237
aw fock
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>>92615461
>powercreeped gilded drake

bros... the one reserve list card I own... my investment...
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>>92620338
Damn I miss that card... damn I miss temur energy. Would love if temur energy became viable in modern
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>>92620472
>Investing on cards
LOL
LMAO
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>>92620472
It's a lot worse.
>>92620513
>investing in anything
Imagine thinking make-believe stocks are more serious than physical objects.
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>>92620338
As a noob why would you ever want to have this over a < 2 mana exile/destroy target. I know it'd have utility in an energy counter deck but in my mind it'd always be less useful than just an instakill card.
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>>92620266
What's wrong with his interpretation? It reads that way to me.
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>>92620575
>Kill a 1 toughness creature
>Have 2 extra energy for something else
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>>92620513
I buy second hand commander precons from facebook market place and then sell the individual cards for like 3-4x the value of what I paid for the deck. I also sometimes buy new precons when they go on sale at stores. Recently bought Sauron Commander deck for $40 AUD, current going rate is like $150.
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>>92620575
Because if it has 1 or 2 toughness you get to kill something and generate energy
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>>92620472
>valuing your collection for anything other than insurance purposes
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>>92615383
jim davis stole my deck and made it worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2SJ6TPZPkc
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>>92619954
the correct answer is aether revolt and the printing of fatal push
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>>92620655
He always annoyed me for some reason
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>>92617815
Phantasmal Terrain effects are NOT the same thing at all.
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>>92620677
he always seems like he's nervous or going through drug withdrawals
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>>92620605
turn 1
dark rit + NUcropotence
spend 19 life points
go down to 1
draw 19
turn 2
dark rit + sheoldred
spend 1 life point
go down to 0
you dead before any trigger apply
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>>92620273
>Blood Moon is kept in check by being red

No, Blood Moon is kept in check by Force of Vigor. That one card singlehandedly makes enchantment-based hate near unplayable.
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>>92620692
It just never looks like he's ever having fun either. Very much a sore loser
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So far none of the leaked cards is broken or the same powerlevel of LOTR

>but but but the pitch counter spell
Objectly worse than FON

>but but but the Blue Moon fish
Symmetrical effects are always bad in blue

Stop crying sissies aside from the edh walkers the edition is fine so far
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>>92620713
Good
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>>92620726
could see the necropotency creature easily making a tier 1 legacy deck
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>>92620701
Ok, so just draw 18 or less if you suspect any burn. I thought that would be obvious.
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>>92620750
even in this way you not gonna draw your deck right away. even if you pay 18 turn 1 on turn 2 you can only pay 1 draw 1 gain 2 up to 3.turn 3 pay 2 draw 2 gain 4 up to five etc etc. it's still something but it's not an autowin button.
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>>92618958
>medallion reprint

Nice
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>>92620726
See you in a month.
Hopefully someone screencap your post.
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>>92620814
These are going to crater in price. Realistically, all of the commander reprints should have already done that, but this will absolutely do it.
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>>92620803
You can still pay 15, slam Relicary + Sheoldred and end T2 with 9 life and 20 cards, with exponentially life gain and draws in the following turns with a 4/5 on board
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Oops I accidentally drew 15 cards off nuCropotence, guess I'll have to fill my graveyard due to hand size.
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>>92620870
you mean "fill my exile zone"?
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>>92620870
>guess I'll have to fill my graveyard due to hand size.
retard
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>>92620893
>>92620889
Yes.
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>>92620853
ok, then
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>>92620889
Yes
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Absolute fucking lmao.
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>>92620961
crazy how amulet managed to survive mh1, mh2 and ltr, hope it survives mh3 and acr too
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>>92620961
Is time to Domain to be crushed under fucking Moons.
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Why are you fucks unable to read the cards?
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>>92616032
Awkward wording aside, it's artifact and enchantment hate. The only thing weird about it is that it can hit planeswalkers.
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>>92621020
It can hit battles too!!!!
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>>92620985
Tron has also somehow managed to survive everything
MH3 will be the end though, I can feel it. There's a big push for tempo tribal strategies coming, and there's going to be more land hate than ever to target triome abusers
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>>92621109
>MH3 will be the end though
Of Modern? I fully agree.
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>>92621109
>MH3 will be the end though, I can feel it.
People felt this way about MH2, I won't believe it until I see it.
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>>92621126
It depends on what you consider "the end" to be. Modern IS dead post-MH2. Just because there's a few holdouts refusing to let go doesn't change that.
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How the fuck can anyone still use the word "tempo" in conjunction with MtG looking at the last five years of this fucked game? What tempo are you people talking about? Casting Dumb Blade on their 1 drop only for them to play either another 1 drop or an even more busted 2 drop? Hoping you can play a 3 mana boardwipe or you just lose? Having more counterspells? What the fuck does tempo mean when you can get utterly shit on every single turn?
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>>92620552
money is make-believe
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>remember how energy was broken and got banned several times?
>yeah, let's buff that
really makes the Captcha go HMMX0
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>>92621226
Yeah man all those energy cards that got banned in... Modern.
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>MH3 free spell for White
>1WWW instant, You gain 2 life. You gain another 2 life. Your opponent gains 2 life. Scry 1. Your creatures gain 2 life. Your graveyard gains 2 life. Exile your hand and permanents. You lose the game. You can only do this once per turn.
>Designed by mark rosewater
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>>92621241
just because something is broken in one format doesn't mean it should get hauled over to another just to see what happens
they also keep printing storm cards and they keep getting banned all the while there is a fucking scale named after it
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a new "spoiler"
>goygoyf
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>>92621256
Energy was never inherently broken, they just printed some cards that were too strong which happened to have energy on them.
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>>92621252
nice, finally a line for my plat angel under oubliette deck
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>>92621263
it's an almost uninteractable resource so unless new incidental counter hate emerges, it is still stupid good
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>>92615984
imagine if it's
>Even More Ancienter Tomb
>Enters tapped
>[tap]: add CCC, and lose 3 life
how horrible would it be
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>>92621289
Emblems can't be interacted with either and yet Modern has somehow managed to not be crushed under the weight of this fact.
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>>92621259
>goyf with trample

It's over modern is finished
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>>92621207
Close but no cigar. Currency is make-believe. Afterall, currency is just another form of investment.
Only gold and silver are money.
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>>92621297
there is only one emblem that can be immediately gained with no other help
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>>92621303
It's a commander deck card so it's not legal in modern despite belonging to modern horizons 3
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>>92621259
>Coomander
Out. But i'm curious how much that shit cost.
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>>92621259
Will this be 1G? There's no way, right?
RIP goyf, you had a good run.
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>>92621312
So the fact that they can't be interacted with has nothing to do with their power level and has everything to do with the cards that make them, okay, so there's nothing wrong with energy on an inherent level.

Maybe the problem was the card that spat out a fucking Emrakul on T4.
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>>92621289
Unfortunately printing cards that hate on Energy would also mean printing cards that hate on Poison which for some reason is a REAL no-go because... Poison isn't... Curable...?
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>>92620985
It's because Amulet is a legacy power level deck in a non-legacy format
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>>92621311
that's what I meant, yeah. only useful limited raw resources like elements are truly valuable, at least as long as we have technology
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>>92621207
>>92621311
Currency is an intermediary form of exchange that allows for indirect trade and is one of the great leaps forward in the development of civilisation. I'd argue it's almost as important as base agriculture.
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>>92621297
How about you shut the fuck up, faggot? Energy is an offensive mechanic just because you can't interact with it, like emblems. Interaction is one of the cruxes of the game, so mechanics that give you uninteractable shit outside the game should be vehemently opposed on principle, regardless of power.
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>>92621326
except if you yell really loud
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>>92621353
>Interaction is one of the cruxes of the game
Let me guess, you're one of those people who thinks cards like Blood Moon and Chalice of the Void are good designs.
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>Mememodern players are scary of... energy

Kek
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>>92621348
Yeah but not all currency is created equal and what you said doesn't contradict my previous statement, currency can be an investment.
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>>92621380
Not me, I would love to play temur energy in modern
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>>92621380
Energy was kino.
Now this bullshit cheats with Nucropotence and shit? And the Moon effects? Now that's cringe.
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All energy is is a resource that lets you choose what cards you focus it through as opposed to being hard locked into it. Whirler Virtuoso could've had nothing to do with energy and just said ETB make a 1/1 Thopter and been perfectly fine. But apparently when you spend the energy from your other cards to make another Thopter this is somehow fucking broken? Fuck outta here, energy is fine, the problem is WotC let you spit out Eldrazi Titans on T4.
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>>92621394
So would I, but the retards put it in the wrong colors.
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>>92621432
Fuck I miss that card... I got back into magic after 18 years not playing it around the time Kaladesh came out. I loved energy and the whole art direction of Kaladesh. I miss it.
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>>92621413
>Energy was kino.
Energy wasn't kino because it was too simple. You just get energy for playing normal cards, and it sits outside the game. The opponent can't make you lose energy and you have no urgency to use it. It's just there to boost other cards.
Energy should have had some cards create an Energy Cell artifact token with X counters on it or add X counters to an existing one, and each turn you remove a counter from it so you need to use it or lose it. Cards could have had energy needed to maintain them too or else they get sacced like cumulative upkeep.
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>>92621450
My hope is the red and blue cards from MH3 are strong enough that it can become a deck in modern when combined with the top cards from the old sets.
I seriously doubt it'll be strong enough (As much as I loved the card in standard, who wants to pay 4 mana for a bristling hydra in modern when you could spend 4 mana on the one ring or other strong shit).
I won't mind if it's a tier 3 deck at best. I prefer playing decks that aren't top of the meta
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>>92621466
I'm fucking afraid of the return to Kaladesh on the Death Race set... One of the best planes will have to share the spotlight with who knows which planes and besides in a shitty theme focused set.
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>>92621508
>Pooloodesh
>one of the best planes
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>>92621508
Yep... I fucking hate it. I saw Kaladesh as being the absolute peak in terms of how high tech Magic should ever get. The concept art of them racing around modern looking cars and people in 80's clothing in that horror house set is just... I fucking hate it. Kaladesh was one of magic's most original great looking art directions.
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>>92621508
Aesthetic was 10/10 for those sets.
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>>92621572
That's why I'm worried they're going to ruin it in the next set... It's my favourite plane visually.
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>>92621521
Favourite plane anon?
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>>92621311
Gold and silver are also make believe.
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>>92621508
>>92621530
>>92621572
Kaladesh was fucking beautiful, probably next to Lorwyn/Shadowmoor in terms of my favorite aesthetics. I’m fucking dreading seeing both of them again in the next few years.
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>>92621667
OG Innistrad
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>>92621686
lol
You are uneducated.
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>>92621689
Lorwyn/Shadowmoor was one of the best looking sets ever
New Phyrexia was also excellent, but I don't think we'll ever return to the peak aesthetic of Lorwyn
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>>92621689
I bought Kaladesh and Aether Revolt pre release kits because I liked the look of them. I got the Kaladesh Invention Defense Grid in one of them. I was pretty hyped about it. I love the art on those invention cards. Fucking hate how expensive they are.
I keep some pauper decks in them now.
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>>92615383
I started playing this year. My group really likes to go infinite to win. It feels so boring to me. Is this common to other groups?
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>>92621787
My group of friends don't do infinite shit because it's boring when you're just playing casually
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Imagine a Magic format where you have infinite life and the only way to kill someone is to go infinite.
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>>92621862
>necropotence: the mode
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>>92621884
>>92621884
>>92621884
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>>92621787
are you sure you're in the right thread? this is the MTG thread for limited and 60 card constructed formats
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>>92621394
I’m excited for some form of energy to hopefully by playable in timeless, the alchemy cards didn’t bring enough to the table
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>>92618411
Its a solid card that sets up some smooth gameplay. It enables other strategies and it can fight and win. It fucks with your opponents tempo. Worthy of the title ‘commander’, and if it dies your in the right colours to get it back. I hate having to fix, so any more than one colour is too much 4 me, and i love utility lands, but i imagine youd be a great matchup to vs. Heres mine. The one sided board wipe + commander damage is my coup de grace. Ive had this as my only deck for 6 years and i feel like an anime character.
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>>92618411
Be wary of ramping too much though, you just want to get ahead of them. you need to place threats or choke your opponents early to stop them from snowballing Removal + beats? Recursion + beats? Protection + Ramp? Not one single card is isolated in a good deck, and does multiple things and interacts with multiple cards. Redundancy is good, but too little and you have no realistic strategy and Too much and you are frequently unable to take decisive action. You should be able to re use cards that can only otherwise be used once, unless its the protection, the will or the council
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>>92615534
Easy fix for it:
>Discard your entire hand and exile the top card of your library.
>Draw 7 cards.
Probably would need to be made 1B.
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>>92618063
It’s the only way to actually play EDH in a store. Literally no one can judge the power of their deck. What they mean by “just want to have a fun game” is they get to do their shit and could care less if you do yours.

So the answer is the only thing that’s actually balanced is the decks tuned for peak performance. CEDH games always feel decently balanced to me.



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