>Most Recent Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3645467>Launch Live Updateshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594080>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>Buy Early Access Keyhttps://pathofexile2.com/purchase>FAQhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981>Trade Sitehttps://www.pathofexile.com/trade2>Ladderhttps://pathofexile2.com/ladders>Wikihttps://www.poe2wiki.net>Game Databasehttps://poe2db.tw>Ingame Chat Channel/global 1488Old >>507291598
90% of all your complaints are solved if you just play ssfhc
i miss em broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJwSzxRjSxg
whats the code for hiding "advanced" or non expert bases
>>507313685soon
>>507313482>hardcore gameplay
>>507313603retard
Aren't there nodes on the tree that allow crits to ignore ele res entirely? Why even care about pen if you can just build crit
If the final boss of poe 2 isn't a random poe 1 endgame build representing (your) player character I'm going to refund the game and uninstall.
>>507313769pen is entirely useless in poe2
>you now remember settlers of kalguur
Worst maps tier list? So far for me it's:>Vaal Factory>Augury>Steppe>Decay>That sewer Map can't remember it's name off the top of my head>Bogs
>>507313879>gets 1shot from 3 screens away
>get srs at lvl 10>spam flame wallis this the whole game?
>>507313457adding more crafting options isn't going to change the value of MF, it's going to make it easier to get items good enough that you can just stack MF. you could just go to SSF and get the gameplay you claim you want at any time. but you won't because really you want something impossible: the advantages of trade without the consequence that the gameplay is bypassed.
>day 3 of not finding an iron citadel
>>507313482forcing more slutty female characters into the game by will alone, send me your energy brothers
>>507313904Kino.
>>507313619Pen is cheapLets say you just want to get rid of some ele resistance but focus the majority of your budget on PenCurse + Exposure also requires setup whereas Pen works on every hitSo the question becomesDo you spend ~10-20 passive points on pen which is reliable and always-onorDo you spend ~1-2 seconds to proc exposure + curse on specific packs Pen also frees up the curse slot for something else like Temp Chains or EnfeebleCurses also cost a LOT of mana to cast and have an inherent delay which is a bit more difficult for attack builds then spell buildsCurses also require high int if you want full effectiveness out of themThere are many cases where Pen > Reduced Res but also many cases of reduced res > pen.Stormweaver for example would be a waste to go Pen since you get the exposure talent and can easily get -90% like the other anon posted.Invoker gets free resistance ignore on crit, so if you go full on crit you can ignore pen or resistances are a thing entirely.Invoker is tankier vs 1shots whereas Stormweavers probably go MoM so they are tankier vs sustained damage.
Guys wtf, resistances are BROKENThey need to be nerfed. The difference between -60 res and 75 is absolutely bonkers. Legit stops you from being one-shot. And I heard it can be scaled even higher, too.WAY too overpowered. Forces too many affixes on my gear. Please GGG nerf it.
>put 3 distilled guilt to try out this mechanic since I haven't played PoE>put on the amulet I'm using>says I need distilled oil to use it on this item>oh ok>go back>3 distilled guilt are goneis this how it supposed to work or this is a bug?
>>507314057MANIFEST HOT BITCHES BRO
>>507314067my best ever league. Never killed shaper before and ended up taking down maven and sirus (ssf btw)
SHIT GAME
Mf could, in theory, fix itself if ggg adds a bunch of good rare mods to the pool. Think about it- what would be better, 10 iir, or an extra 20% ms? Or 25 iir vs splode modThe real issue right now is we tossed a ton of the influenced or special rare mods from poo1, so its either iir or + life/res/defence. Which is obviously a pretty easy choice
>>507313685>Forsen spent 2 weeks playing poe1 with MTX blasting his screen 24/7>Forsen barely lasted 4 days playing poe2 without any MTX blasting his screenWhy does it feel like we lost
>>507313879>>507313925cont.>a swarm of unkillable minions stunlock you to death>some giga nigga in eyerape MTX jumps on you and instagibs you>it's just a sentient tornado made of knivesI could keep going with other greatest hits and how "fun" would they be to fight
>>507314189Are you implying we need an MF cap? Not a bad idea.
>>507314279
>>507314279it doesn't. eradication of Forsen is a blessing for everyone.
>>507314189how do i even get res capped? does all my gear have to at least have 2 types of resist on them?
>game named path of exile 2>your character isn't exiled, the word exile is never even mentionedShit game.
>>507314521or poe1 charactersits like us killing gods in poe1 made 0 difference
>>507314521Path of Executed
>>507314521sorc got exiled from her maraketh tribe tho
>game named Diablo 4>Diablo never appears
>>507313720Hide # Body Armour Class == "Body Armour" BaseType "Expert Waxed Jacket"obviously change the class and base
>>507314521You get exiled from Ogham
>>507314521you get exiled from the gallows
>>507314259Adding more mods could be a good idea but it would require an actual crafting system so we could feasibly get the right mods for our build. We already get fucked by RNG drops and forced into trading enough in PoE2. And don't forget, they are going to dilute the pool several times over when they add all these new weapon types, so finding an upgrade for YOUR build will get even harder.
>play trade league voluntarily>complain about inevitable consequences of trade that are unrelated to game designevery fucking time
>>507314521You literally do get exiled thoughWhat's stupid is that there is almost no mention of the poe 1 events that happened not even 30 years priorI don't know how everyone in the world of poe 2 is so retarded now
>>507314756>unrelated to game designlmao
>kill last rare>ofc its a faggot proximity cancer>corpse still glides over the ground following and shooting me>map not completeabout to be done with niGGear games bugs desu
>>507314795poe1 actually takes place in the future
>>507314816outskilled
>>507314259yeah anon GGG should start powercreeping the game IMMEDIATELY just so that you can feel less bad about "having" to gear around getting better loot shut the fuck up, holy shit you are such a dumb tradey bitch. >>507314727>complaining about RNG drops in an ARPGyou, you can fuck off immediatley too. fucking hell what a pair of retards.
>>507313920I refuse to run Vaal Factory as anything but T5 whites because of how cancer it is
>>507314513Idk, 2 affixes on a single piece of item might be too difficult to acquire. I just have MF on every gear slot. I may not be able to clear many maps without dying, but I've already noticed I'm getting WAY more loot than I did during the game's tutorial. It's almost as if the rewards players receive scales with the difficulty of the content they're completing.
>>507314756retard
Gotta say, it's really annoying that belts NEED to have +2 charm slot or they're trash. Maybe that modifier should be removed too.
magic find is bad because tradetrannies can't have maximum character power and maximum loot at the same time, okay?
>>507314901retard
>>507314806>get stuff for less effort than it would take to farm yourself>complain that farming feels less meaningfulD3 paragon tiers were literally designed with dumbfucks like you in mind.
>>507314954yeah unironically started doing that because i hate trading.like, im already gettin bullshit slamming on all my gear anyway. what could hurt here? at anytime i accumulated enough currency i can fair just a bit at least if i really need to upgrade
>>507314756>inevitable consequences of trade that are unrelated to game design
>i'm too retarded to understand the issueYes, we know.
>>507315079No it's bad because the top tradetrannies are already maxed out on their stats so giving up some dmg or def for magic find accelerates their farm by crazy amounts resulting in even more divide between the rich and the middle class not to mention the poors.
im not getting ANY gear with my witch in act 1
MF doesn't need fixing and hopefully they don't listen to these fucking retards
>find cool unique, consider building around it>have to get res capped>have to get good Life/ES values>have to get MF>uniques are on normal difficulty bases
>>507315246What needs fixing then?
>>507315229>I choose to play self-found and everyone else should suffer because of it
>>507315023>be retarded>call smart person retarded because you are too retarded to understand the argument you are trying to engage inthank god GGG provide a ghetto for all the plebs and dumbfucks. the only problem with PoE2 having more player engagement is that you hand around for more than two weeks.
fuck it we're doing it
>>507315136But trade is the consequence of game design. If orbs were actually useful to use people wouldn't trade them away for items that SSF player can only dream of.
>>507314521Warrior gets exiled from his tribeMonk gets exiled from his monkSorc gets exiled from the marakethWitch gets exiled from her fellow witchesRanger gets exiled because... well... uhm...Mercenary exiles himself when shit goes down the drain
>>507314190They're probably still in the anoint window
>>507315350The absolute madlad. Let me know how embracing the darkness goes for you.
>>507315065it sucks that weapons need to have damage. we should all just be given a billion damage at level 1, it would fix all the problems with the economy because no one would need to buy high-tier weapons any more.
>>507315350Boy I remember when I was that naiveBe sure to give an update when you eventually get to T15's.Don't respec until you get your 3rd ascendency, it makes it easier.
>I play SSF in a genre built around trading. How did this happen to me?
>>507315350First time seeing it and that's exactly a darkness mechanic of an old card game. Fucking hacks copied everything.
>>507315474So it's good design that every weapon that doesn't have high roll +physdmg is just straight up trash?
>>507315281>play gear grinding game>complain about having to grind geara longstanding /poeg/ tradition.
>>507314931>complaining about complaining about RNG drops in an ARPGLook in the mirror, buddy.
>kill doryani the second time in cruel acts>character turn 365 degrees to stare into my face beyond the monitor and says "wow, this truly has been a Path of Exile 2: The SequelTM"I don't know, I felt like this was a bit too on the nose.
Bow DoT skills also relying on phys bows is so dumb. Everyone playing a bow build is basically competing for the same items now
>>507315543You would know if you went back in time>hi this is poe>we don't have currency in this game>instead you use these orbs to modify the items you find>we have solved the currency problem!>oh nvm these orbs suck lets just use them as currency instead lol XD
>>507315685>"I knew you were on the Path of Exile, Too."
>>507315694Correct.
gimme something better than srsas fast and fun as la rangerbut as tanky as a dual shield titan
>making your own buildwhy
>>507315586>every weapon that doesn't have mods which make it a good weapon is a bad weaponit would be nice if it were possible to ban all posters who can't think in terms of abstractions.
>>507315694If you aren't playing SSF then just buy and use a Widowhail for 1ex then you only have to compete on quivers. gg.
>>507315782you're not a cuck, r-right?
>>507315774mathil's build
>>507315632In PoE1 you could have a viable build conposed almost entirely of uniques
>>507315929what class is it?
>oneshot a3 rape ape with perfect strikeoh how the turntables
>>507315827The point is that we're not even talking about a good or bad weapon. We're talking about a weapon and a bad weapon. If it doesn't have certain mod it's just unusable in all cases.
Darkness sucks holy shit
>Get imprisoned and barely escape your execution due to sheer luck>Come back a day or two later and singlehandedly kill everyoneThe story is pretty silly
>>507315664sorry but that doesn't make sense? because you're complaining about RNG in an RNG game and I'm calling you a fucking retard for doing so? you fucking retard?
>>507315931You want resists on the tree? FUCK YOU. You want life on the tree? FUCK YOU. You want 400% increased ES on the tree? Now that we can do.
flat health on enemy hit from gloves etc works on frost walls you cast, spam a fast skill on them
Still sane, exile?
>>507315991Yes everybody has known this since day 1. It's almost like removing the ability to use every single aura in the game for a piddly amount of damage is not a good deal.
>>507315991The whole Ascendancy sucks
How much damage should my grenades be doing before I go to tier 7 maps?
SEX, I'LL
>>507315964witch infernalist demon form ES essence drain
>>507316170Just do tier 7 maps and find it out yourself.
>>507316020Lore accurate for Merc and Witch at the very least
>>507315931And then they added spell suppression
why is this worth so much? I listed it at 1 ex and got spammed offers for 30-40 exalted and then changed it to a divine and it sold within a minute. got it from the shop while gambling
>>507315350hf losing all of it the second you take a blip of damage from dots or burning ground
is it always grass biome if a map is on green?
>>507316302Why not for monk? He has a chaotic evil god's support
>>507316224neat
>>507316340spirit and rarity
>>507316224I thought demon form was shit?
>>507315335
>>507315983who cares if there are bad weapons? there isn't exactly a shortage of shit dropping. keep on picking up junk until you find non-junk. use that to get something ok, then use that to get something good, then great, then amazing, then bis.
>>507316396ty, ill keep a lookout for those 2 combined then
>>507315983if every weapon that drops is a good weapon all that does is make the less-good weapons into the new category of bad weapons. you're literally saying something that dumbfucks who can't understand that they're playing RNG loot drop game have always said, from lack of self-awareness, since the genre has existed. play SSF or shut the fuck up.
>>507316124no but i'm high as fuck rnngl2bqhwyfongfrfr
>>507316340you could have sold it for morewhy did you nut so fast for some korean ricer you fool
>>507316130losing auras wouldn't be that big of a deal if it was even remotely possible to keep it unreserved for an appreciable amount of time
>>50731634050 spirit is max possible roll and a breakpoint on amulet and lets you run a full extra aura effect if you have nothing else
>>507316558ah well im level 55 so thats enough for me to get a lot of upgrades
>>507315931GGG don't even consider items to be part of your "build".
>>507316437Me picking up every good weapon base from the ground and having to slap blue orbs on all of them just to check if one of them qualifies as a pure breed for my next orb slapping step isn't exactly riveting gameplay. It's like I'm losing IQ just from playing this game.
Just bought the game, why do I have exactly 308 coins? I didn't have that much left in PoE 1.
>>507314587>exiledno, she ran away. she was supposed to become the tale-woman or w/e. the one that passes down their history and storiesshe was a bitch and ran away from it
>>507316050Sorry, that didn't make any sense to you? Because you didn't take my advice and you didn't discover that there was a retard in the mirror staring back at you by doing so? What are you, some kind of fucking retard?
>>507316050You can barely string together a coherent sentence. Shut the fuck up, idiot.
>>507316736oh neat, thanks. im using a chest armor with spirit so always have more than enough
>>507316816>play item crafting game>complain about there being a reason to craft items
>>507316816go play diablo 4, it has a pretty sweet crafting system and all the shit that drops is for the class you are playing.
>no one calls you exile>npcs call you "hero" instead
Path of Retard
>>507316946Doesn't only Finn do that? I wasn't paying much attention desu
>>507316940This is crafting? So you construct 100 houses and 99 of them just fail?
>>507315086i'm not sure why you're saying retard because we LITERALLY end up time traveling, and we all know what level of absolute dogshit writing is possible when you introduce time travel
>>507316845all you're doing is dodging the topic of discussion because you know you've already lost, and trying to turn it into a name-calling exercise so you can sweep that under the rush. you are bad at games and don't understand ARPGS. you will never, ever be listened to by GGG because your disappointment is just a sign that trade league works as intended.
idk if it's the campaign repeating or what but i feel kinda burnt out after reaching the endgamewhich sucks because Act 1 was so fucking kino and a blastwant to keep my char going and see how far i can go but also want to make a minion build but don't know if i can slog thru another 2 cycles of the first 3 acts again
I wish I could make a second weapon passive switch, but then keep the same weapons I'm using without having to go into my inventory and change them over to the other tab every single time.
>grand spectrum sapphire's has gone from 4 divs each to 8 in 2 daysI hate streamerfags so much
>>507316909>>507316845why did you both reply to my post? am I talking to one person or some kind of organized campaign to pretend that the game is being poorly received?BTW can either of you point me to where/when D4 will be free to play? all the links just lead to attempts to get me to buy it. I have a feeling you guys are the ones to ask.
>people are mad that they are just finding out that magic find is good and wasted weeks not using it >because of this they now say it should be removedlmao
i like the fact that witch still calls every other witches "sister" that really give her a character, also her unapologetic remarks towards everyone is really based, she is an autistic cuties that cant pick up basic social cues.she is truly the best character they've made.or dare i say, the only character thats good.
>>507317210just use mirror bro
>>507317297as is tradition
Why 3 nodes to fully invest? It doesn't even make sense. Get rid of this node, bake into the first node, and add another node somewhere else that has nothing to do with darkness.
>>507317324whats dats means
>>507317103>putting an item into the crafting bench and paying exalts is craftinglook just admit that you don't actually like ARPGs and want to play them for two weeks and then quit. btw its time for you to quit until next league. feel free to do that now.
>>507317103That is the weird thing about PoE2 right now. They removed the scours so you need a new base every time you want to "craft" something. Like I can craft for about 10 seconds, and then I have to stop crafting and go do something else.
>>507317297Wasnt it implied heavily in poe 1 that the witch got raped
>>507317375Yeah it's ass. The first node in actually useless because it does nothing without the other two. The ascendancy is just poorly designed.
>>507317103Yup, it's gamble-crafting.
guys stop worshipping chayula. he's evil.
>>507317159I've started again multiple times, I don't mind re-runnnig this campaign. The gameplay is the same whatever, you running around killinig shit,, I don't get why people dislike campaign repetition but then are ok with spamming maps endlessly. Funy when I think back to my first char, dying repeatedly to the wolf boss in act 1. Now a new char can kill him easily after the first transformation even without any twinking
>>507317286I've been using it since I hit maps in the first week and think it needs to be removed. It's just something you always take. There is no real decision-making or meaningful trade-off involved because it is just objectively the best stat in the current state of the game.
do anoints even work? i spent 25 ex to anoint mental toughness and it has no impact on my mana costs whatsoever and shows as unallocated
>start minion witch>get cucked by not having enough spiritim running around with 2 warriors and 1 arsonistgod sake
>>507317472>they made us pick up items off the ground!>in the picking items up off the ground game!
>>507316437I'm at T12 maps right now using a ilevel 60 weapon from ACT 3 Cruel because nothing better has dropped for me yet. I collect every single expert base, including whites and blues, then bring them up to rare and recycle all of that with the reforge station, i also spend all gold on gambling weapon bases and run as many expeditions as possible hoping to craft something better. The drop rate and multiplicative prefix/suffix design means even decent weapons are few and far between. You either need +% phys with +flat phys or multiple flat +elemental rolls, anything else is vendor trash.Unless you're a tradecuck.
>its another ""guise y died endgame suck??" PostMy niggas, the game is not done. 60% of the skill gems aren't even implemented yet. Play act 1-3, and then stop playing. The "endgame" was clearly thrown together in an afternoon to try and placate the .0001% of the population that is giga mazed.Criticizing GGG for putting out so little content is fine (those lazy kiwi fucks need to get their asses in gear), but lets use our brains here a little
>>507317501I mean there is a defensive aspect to it without the other nodes it's just not noticeable because it takes too long to unreserve without the 2nd point.
guys stop worshipping chayula. he's male.
>respec from decimating strike and culling into le concentration and AoE explode>it's worse also even more braindead due to the concentration thingwitch hunter needs new ascendancies,they are so ass
>>507317103the journey is more fun than the destination. searching for upgrades and incrementally making your character stronger is the point of these games.
>>507317448But that's literally how "people who like ARPGs" play these games. Just look at poe1 on steamcharts.
I just want axes
>>507317593>I don't get why people dislike campaign repetition but then are ok with spamming maps endlessly.lack of self-awareness
>>507317601you just described every other fucking good stat on items too moron
>>507317793Only when we get marauder
>>507317839I want him to feel good
>>507317619cope until freythorn then you can get srs
>>507317764You purchase lottery tickets often? Play cash games in stores? Gamble? The journey of becoming stronger.
>>507317605anyone? or is everyone still doing campaign
>Every class gets a single weapon type>Except Shadow, who gets TWO weapon typesDefend this right fucking now.
>>507317768it means that they're also complaining about playing ARPGs in the way that they've chosen to play them. its a cycle that repeats every league.
>>507317593it's just me, probably same reason why i don't really ever play ng+ in gamesand i'm not a big arpg player, i played maybe 30 hr of poe1 and 30-40 hr of last epoch so i'm not the same running maps endlessly playerstill think i'll start a minion build, and def gonna do a druid soon as it comes to ea
>>507314130>pen frees up a curse slotretard
>>507317901i am also using that with firewallthe gameplay loop is kinda ehhh?
its too early to be saying that an ascendency is bad when half the classes weapons and gems are not in yet. a lot of that shit will make more sense with the full picture
>>507317768yes look at poe 1. a game where it takes a long ass time to get good gear.you don't want to play poe, you want to play diablo 3/4. go play. i think their general is still up on /vm/
I am starting to think Moment of Zen simply isn't real
>>507317927they work. did you forget to equip it
>>507318081I have one, what tier map should I put on it?
>>507313879Nigger most people never clear Hall of the Grandmasters. What makes you think that's a good idea?
>>507315105>complain that farming feels less meaningfulfarming feels even less meaningful in ssf since you never get anything worth anything at all. At least in trade your items have value in exchange. Your assumptions are completely retarded
>>507318010minions being lame and boring is the whole reason people play minions. no one is forcing you to emulate Asmongold.
>>507317478no, her house got burned and she got exiled from her village, so in return she killed those villagers children.stop forcing your cuck fantasy.
What the FUCK do the ghosts do in the Draven/Asinia fightI have no idea if they buff the boss or prevent/spawn adds or WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY DO
balbala on cruel is too fucking hard
>>507318092so it's just that specific anointlmao
>can finally cause AOEs bigger than my entire screenFuck yes this feels satisfying
>>507318183Go high, but it's still RNG
>>507317478No. Witch killed a bunch of kids. Hillock is the level 99 rapemaster who murdered babies.
>>507318010I'm not finding it as OP as advertised but I haven't put much thought into my gear or build. I'm just starting act 3 and I'm super squishy with very mediocre dps. Merc felt so much better at this point just because I could buy a cheap crossbow upgrade to fix everything.
>>507318214i don't watch him stop projecting thank you
>>507318385did you actually anoint it? they have to be in the right order.
which class is most fun tho?
>>507318205first time i attempted that i steamrolled it without a second thought. every character since ended up getting totally bricked by one of the mobs until i just gave up ever doing it again
>>507318212your whole mindset is unsuited for playing a single-player game.
>>507318458i mean act1 boss was very easywith absolutely shit gearscaling damage is somehow worse nowsince i guess all you need is spirit and level up the gems?but since you cant just slap on a better weapon with more damageyour minions dont do more damage themselves
It is extremely dumb that you can't increase life in any way or form meanwhile ES gets 40+% upgrades easily.
>>507318462you said they were "kinda ehhh" not me.
>>507318642ES is an armor type so it's totally balanced :)))))))
Giv target dummy
>>507318472
>spells have #% chance to fire an additional projectileHow the fuck does this work with bonestorm? Half the time it seems like it does nothing, then randomly it will fully charge instantly, then back to doing nothingDoes it treat the channel as a bunch of seperate casts? Does it calculate the number of addtl projectiles immediately on the first cast and half the channeling time? What the FUCK is going on
>>507318583PoE2 is more gear-dependent in general than PoE1 (a good thing). a minion player needs to get multiple different items as you can't just get a better weapon to deal more damage.
>>507318532I'm fond of the Warrior. He was a rough start compared to others, but he's also the one that interacts with the game the way the developers intended him to through most of the Campaign. He also scales exceptionally well with the correct Gems and gear.
>>507317910>i don't like this thing>reeee you shouldn't like the thing i don't like!do you complain that race cars go fast in forza?just cope with the fact that the game you don't like is good and move on lmao. why cry about it like a little bitch on 4chan?
based ground loot vision
>>507318532i have 75 warrior, 89 ranger, 65 sorc, 30 witch, 15 merc, 67 monk. in order of fun so far imo>ranger>monk>warrior>witch=sorc>merc
WASD movement is literally the best change they made from PoE1. I could take or leave anything else.
>>507318642>>507318708GGG had no way to balance ES/Evasion/Armour against each other pre-release, they'll just rebalance them next league (to minimize the fallout) based on data.
>>507317132>trying to turn it into a name-calling exercise so you can sweep that under the rushIn response to me writing multiple sentences of actual discussion >>507314727 the guy (not sure if it's you or not) told me to fuck off and called me a retard. There was no argument to engage with.>>507317659Let me put it this way. It takes extra effort to pull up the poe2db site, check the list of possible mods, and figure out the prefixes/suffixes I'm looking for on a specific gear slot. I get in that mode where I'm thinking about the mods and trying to figure out how to get the best ones. If I can do that for an extended period of time before I go back to mapping, it's a better experience than if I have to go back and forth rapidly between mapping and crafting. Alterations and scours were key to longer crafting sessions because they let me do more work on a single base.
>>507318974What the FUCK is that pic anon? like what the FFFFFFFUCK
where is my expedition locker
>>507318770rip.
>>507318836Yeah 99% of uniques being completely useless is a very good thing.
I'm gonna say it. Freythorn is a fucking AIDS map. That and Azok Bog. There's something about a map that's both open-wide for retarded projectile spam and yet it's full of dogshit chokepoints and geometry that blocks YOUR shit. Also if you play grenades, all of them will fall off the edges and do nothing.Fix it. Make the maps linear as fuck or something.
>>507318974I regret clicking on that so much
>>507318642>Warrior is expect to stack STR given Giant's Blood making two-handed hammers require triple stat investment>STR increases health>not uncommon to see Warriors with 600+ STR>most of them never reach 4k healthActually annoying as fuck. Especially when you turn around and see Witches and Sorcerers with 20k ES or 15k Mana with MoM.
the endgame is stale and boring
>>507318782it's bait
I managed to turn the game into a top down shooter with rapid shot, pierce and chain from tree, and fork support. and mobility so i can move while holding down fire constantly. Pathfinder ftw¬
>>507318642whats the class that abuses ES right now?
>>507317619Ive tweaked my minion witch build in a weird way which turned out to be a really really good build and i dont think anyone else is playing it this way.it clears everything for being a minion witch and burst boss fight with ease.The only problem is the mana issue and since i spent all my mana on the command skeleton spamming, arcane surge wont help me and it only hindered by the need of constant mana pot spamming.
What mods are good on a scepter?
>>507319125i don't remember asking
>>507319045>>507319106ai is the future chuds
>>507319138Sorceress
>>507319108>monsters have on death effects>these are often instant>monster dies and chunks 10k ES from my 20k ES>haha whateverSo do Warriors just die from that????
>>507318974i look like that and i play those builds, well not warrior or monk.>melee
>>507313482DOG SHIT OF EXILE 1GOD SHIT OF EXILE 2
>>507319141hmm hmm dunno i like witch as a characterbut if it's only srs flamewall spam with occasional meat shield skelliesit's not really too much fun imo
>>507319101most maps are bullshit like thatit's like they were designed for a completely different game and nobody tested how fucking garbage they feel like to play
>>507319296would slap your doublechin so hard lil bro
>>507318642ES is hella garbage.It gets RAPED by chaos damage.It needs heavy investment (regen speed, start of regen time, increases, CI/MoM, etc).It's vulnerable to meme mechanics like burning ground etc.
>>507319292>monkMonk aint melee
>>507315586NTA, but that's the part they copied directly from D2, except they gave us a slightly better chance to roll high +damage. I think it's actully not bad, you get to change the weapon occasionally, instead of constantly getting minor upgrades.
>>507318980Yeah, it's a sleeper change. It feels so natural out of the gate. Its like we've always had wasd movement.
>>507319308Thats why you should actually use their spells instead of relying on the srs
all the melee builds feel garbage to playwhere's my cyclone, where's my flicker where's my frost blades
>>507319461it is tho
The worst map in the game is the towers. Utterly terrible design with tiny hallways and unseeable mages at the end of them that just fill the hallways with bullshit spells before you can see the actual mages. Add this on top of the fact that there is literally no reason to run these maps as anything more than a white T1 just to get it done quickly and unlock your precursor slot. Terrible design.
>>507319138anyone except merc pretty much. ranger can dip in to es and use ghost shroud. warrior might be able to do the same but i haven't tried it. merc is right at the bottom tho
>>507316424here
>>507319591Semi
Hello.I just want to tell everyone again today to avoid playing Demon Witch.I am doing it. And it sucks. >demonflame is based on % of life>you can avoid a good portion of the downsides by being a low life build>this lets you get up to like 200+ stacks easily>this takes like 20 minutes to get up>this means that every single map, you basically just go afk and wait for stacks>the second node that caps it at 10 is garbage because it stops all your damage gains and basically turns your form worthless as you also now have no weapon to make up for the laughably bad dmg scalingI have a single character. This one. Over 250 hours player. Most of that time is me sitting AFK for 10 minutes every single map.
>>507318836The problem is it's even harder to get gear, I used the same +2 scepter throughout the whole campaign and early maps (starting from level 20) because I found nothing better. Trading is practically mandatory. Removing the crafting bench was a mistake.
>>507319108STR should just give more life in general
>tradetrannies trying to balance the game around their currency orbs again
>>507319686Okay so warrior is also semi melee since fissures aren't real melee tooGuess we need to wait for shadow to come out before we get real melee skills
>>507319767Exactly
>>507319589Flicker exists. It's a monk skill. >>507319725>gemlings becoming even more powerful and getting 15k life now
>>507319849flicker neutered, flicker shit
earthquake was my comfort skill and now it's gone... there's nothing left...
>>507319849it's a quarterstaff skill, not a monk skill
>>507316424>>507319660Actually if you enjoy ssfhc you should just play other game altogether. Like what the fuck do you want? Some skillcheck action game? Why the fuck are you doing that in rng fiesta. Get a grip and stop wasting your life.
why is finding white bases for amulets so cringe jesus
>>507319029that wasn't discussion, you were just broadcasting that you don't understand the role of RNG in an arpg. mabye calling you retarded wasn't constructive, but its not my job to explain why you need to jump onto platforms in a platform game either. >I get in that mode where I'm thinking about the mods and trying to figure out how to get the best ones.you're describing web browsing, not ARPG gameplay. in ARPG gameplay we kill RNG monsters and pick up RNG items, which means they can't always be better than what you already have (by definition). >Alterations and scours were key to longer crafting sessions because they let me do more work on a single base.sounds like you get a meditative feeling from clicking on things in your hideout. I recommend Cookie Clicker online. you will ALWAYS get more cookies the more you play that, there is no uncertainty.
what exactly is this effect? does it stacks armor in a way up to elemental cap?
The poe loop:1) "wow this game is great"2) "wait, that's all there is to mapping?"3) "I must accumulate currency per hour as quickly and efficiently as possible"4) "actually, why don't I just RMT or qut the game, that is even more efficient"People with severe autism tend to stall at number 3.
>>507318543actually it's precisely suited for a single-player game, of which poe is not. It has never been and never will be balanced around single person item acquisition. If I went and played Skyrim right now, or Grim dawn, I would be personally assured good drops that could take on all content.
>>507319098this but unironically
i want to play some poe1 sc trade while waiting for the transformation of path of excrement 2 to path of exile 2which has the more active economy, necro settlers or normal settlers? just browsing some listings necro settlers seems royally fucked and i dont really care for the lantern its kinda retarded
>>507319660what sucked about playing poe 2 was realizing how fucking bad poe 1 has gotten.>league start>few hours to maps>few hours to fill out crafting and progression atlas>day two start with good enough gear to start working on ubers>day 5 reroll to currency farmer>mageblood>meme build>40/40>quit
>>507318996They've had 10 yrs of data to look at retard
>>507319976I had just assumed all armor = elemental dmg %.
>>507319976Makes it so armour mitigates elemental damage as well, rather than justy phys
i just wanna bonk, speed up warriors animations by like 150%
>>507319881flicker is strong but needs a fuckton of investment to make it usable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK13VAdz0sogenerating charges in this game is just fucking bad right now until you get specific uniques or jewels.it doesn't even make sense why generating charges is such a bullshit hoop to jump through because they don't inherently provide anything at all like in poe1.
I feel that I should be doing higher maps. I'm 75, res capped, 1400hp, 2400es, great aoe and shitty single target. Running 5 at the moment, but 5 only drops. Packs of white mobs dies instantly. I can take a few seconds of beating. Where should I be, like tier 9?Can I also do ascendancy 3?
Alva is so cute bros
>nobody playing blood mage>has the literal highest ehp and recovery in the entire gameOnce they add a fast hitting melee ability this shit will shoot to s++ tier, just watch
>>507319914>stop wasting your life in a life-wasting game!>he posted from tier 15 maps in the SC trade league of life wasting game 2
>>507319976I imagine you get an extra same% reduction on elemental damage as the one you get on phys off of armor
>>507320207no, you must bonk at 200% speed for 50% damage
I LOVE RUNNING HIGH TIER MAPS AND DROPPING LOWER TIER MAPS INSIDE OF THEM
I'd be still playing the game but every single loading screen turning my PC fans up to 11 just got too annoying. They really need to fucking optimize their CPU usage after what, almost 20 years of game dev?
>>507320235i'm playing it on my ssf dd build
>>507320220assuming you have the damage you could be doing t13s or t14sUnless you purposefully fuck your defenses it seems mostly to be about damage , I was doing t13s uncapped on res before they buffed everyones late game res
>>507320156chris used to say they didnt look at data because it didnt translate to good decisionmaking or something. idk if thats still how they operate thougg
>>507320236No I'm a tourist trying to like poe but failing. At least those currency farming traders are playing the game for what it is. But hc is just pretending that the game is some great action game for skilled gamers.
>>507320414damn I bet they feel stupid about chalupa
>>507320137And all of that is much much worse because it takes longer and is less rewarding in poe2. In D2 you could farm countess, farm valley of snakes, etc, and get your leaf staff and all kinds of good gear very easily and then ramp up to doing baal runs in a group. Nothing like that exists in poe2, it's all a shit grind for nothing. There are no high points in the campaign that are fun to retread for rewards - there was beetle and now it's gone, but shit like that used to be a staple of the genre. No deterministic drop pools from bosses of any kind, no way to get the gear you want for a niche build, nothing. Just a shit slog and then into a mapping system that's fucking pointless.The game is fucking trash
>>507319997Diablo and PoE were inspired by turn-based Roguelikes, which were single-player and RNG and gave you zero guarantee of a successful run. you just don't get the genre, but if you're used to casualized single-player games I get it. its a power-fantasy thing where you compartmentalize how the game is giving you everything while telling you that your special for getting given it.
when are they releasing more classes all the current ones are boring as shit to play
>>507320351Get FanControl and set your fans to not respond to temperature changes that fast
Invoker bros?
>>507320379Huh, so how do I go about betting those maps? Reforge like 900lvl1 etc maps?
>picture of Warrior in official promotional art is kinda viking looking, though tanned>had assumed he'd be some kind of swarthy weird mix again, leaning toward something like Maui>instead he's just full on black>both ascendancies make him again look swarthy or like an islander????
>>507320351>5 seconds loading screen to open mapwtf is even happening
>>507319976literally the transcendence keystone from poe1 but with no downsides. its broken especially with the limited ways to mitigate aoe elemental damage.
>>507320213I mean you can make anything work with attribute stacking
>>507320356do you take the leech node?
>>507311265What are they? I've seen a few of them
>>507319986The poe 2 loop:1) "wow this game looks great"2) "wait, this game is great!"thats pretty much it.
>>507320156ES and evasion were completely different in poe1 and so was the gameplay. you can be fully assured that GGG is going to keep rebalancing defenses: they have already nerfed monster crit (which helps Armour and Evasion builds more than ES).
>>507320574All the other Classes will be just as boring to play till Duelist/Shadow/Templar which they are saving for last .
>>507295910>They didn't LEAVE them on the tree. They PUT them there. And do you know what values they gave to them? It's like fucking 28% increased energy shield for one node. And there are many of those. What the fucking fuck were they thinking?>Meanwhile, life gets two 3% nodes.It's wild to me that they didn't learn that lesson from Last Epoch when they copied so much from that game. LE had a big controversy with shields and had to redo the whole system because they were so broken and here we are years later and retreading the same ground, no lessons learned. It's embarrassing that GGG can't do better than a shitty indie game.
>>507320686Attribute stacking has literally nothing to do with flicker being good
>>507320647the downside is you have no fucking armor you retard. It's a completely pointless item
>>507320692nah i'm gonna go crit and the life lost over 4 seconds, life remnants with grim feast is enough to keep my alive for the vast majority of mapping
>>507320532>No I'm a tourist trying to like poe but failinggood>At least those currency farming trader are playing the game for what it isthey aren't playing the game. and I don't play HC SSF I play SC SSF.
>>507320547Runewords were a brutal mistake. Stealth+Lore+Spirit for everyone and don't touch the slot again until Nightmare, Insight for every merc and don't touch the slot again until Hell
>>507320356Same, but if you look at the nodes you can see all the best ones aren't caster restricted. And the health globes have counter synergy with ranged characters since they spawn on the enemy.>>507320692I was under the impression that node was bugged and didn't work
>>507320605pump the maps and pray is all I knewi think boss maps have a better chance for waystones to drop so use your juiced waystones for boss maps
>>507320532hc makes the game more exciting regardless of how good you are. more exciting, immersive and challenging for those who like hard games.ssf makes the game take a lot longer for those who want to invest a lot of time and submit to the rng of the game and be forced to interact with all the system.combine them both and you get a slower more rewarding experience
shatter monk?
>haha, the third round challenger again...Holy shit, the trial is nuts.
>>507320869You are just playing the slowed down version of the grind while relying more on gambling. I'm playing SSF too but I'm just fucking hoping that I roll good on resists and if I don't well then I don't. And yesterday I got triple resists on my helm and suddenly I'm almost 100% on everything. (I know it caps)
>>507319951>that wasn't discussion, you were just broadcasting that you don't understand the role of RNG in an arpg.So when I said that we "get fucked by RNG drops" did that trigger something in your brain that made you react with anger? You got that far and stopped reading, eh? We (me and the other guy you seem to take issue with) were trying to discuss the size of the mod pool and its effects on item acquisition. Other guy suggests that there could be good competing stats to make MF less attractive, I point out that expanding the mod pool would feel bad in the current state of crafting where we already struggle to get good combinations of mods, and you SPAZ the fuck out because you think I'm asking for GGG to give me unicorns and death lasers that will trivialize the game. Overreaction much?>in ARPG gameplay we kill RNG monsters and pick up RNG items, which means they can't always be better than what you already have (by definition).Let me draw a picture for you. Far left end of the spectrum: Every item is better than the last one. Far right end of the spectrum: You grind for 100 hours and don't get an upgrade. Where are we at right now on that spectrum, and how would expanding the pool of potential item drops change the situation?>sounds like you get a meditative feeling from clicking on things in your hdieoutI think there is a place for alternative forms of item acquisition. I don't think every single item upgrade has to come from a randomly rolled rare on the floor. If that means I have to spend some time working on items in my hideout instead of praying to rngesus to drop a perfectly rolled 500+ dps weapon from my next rare, then so be it.
>>507320998Shitter monk
>>507320414He said that you can't fully trust data, not that they ignore it. Why are GGG dev "quotes" always either made up or so distorted that they might as well be?
>>507320532>the game is sitting in your hideout manually trading currency orbs with chinese rmters
>>507320547GGG know from experience that deterministic drops don't keep anyone playing the game even if its what they loudly demand, so thankfully they'll never listen to this kind of feedback.
>>507320235I really want to try a melee blood mage. Bloodmagic with Giant's Blood could be fun.
is a fire spell based infernalist playable? i assume the items would be dirt cheap on trade
>>507321108that bad?
>>507320881DD isn't really a ranged caster skill, you have to be near corpses to explode them and you have to be near your minions to explode them aswell so you are usually very close to pick up orbs
poo of excrement 1.... I miss you
>>507320982If you find playing lotto challenging it's not the game it's your head.
I unironically think LA ranger is the most fun
>>507320532>I'm a tourist We could tell that from last thread
>installed on ssd>load times are long as fuck what do? is this still a problem on my end or is this some kiwi shenanigans
>>507320351Try capping your framerate in the settings.
>>507320870They should add set bonuses to runes to make it interesting
>>507321131Considering fire spells suck outside of SRS, what's the point?You'll be a zdps discount sorc.
>check Trade for a new weapon>Find one with all the right affixes>But they're all tier 1 and the weapon is corrupted>6 divinesWhy do people even bother?
>>507321296Kiwi unoptimization.
>>507320731>ES and evasion were completely different in what fucking way retard? ES has a longer recharge delay that's it. They made evasion markedly worse with the "can't evade aoes" change so i don't how you're saying that's an improvement. It's fucking shit
>>507320982(This has never been true in any game because all HC actually leads to is people refusing to take any risks or try any content which might kill them)
>hes still running arsonists
>>507321126Sadly yes. The goal of the game is just to push your build to the limit. And trading is much faster than being a rat that runs around a skinner box. And not just any rat, one that takes pride in their lost time.
>>507320703funnest map layout
>>507320351>>507321318Forgot to mention that you are most likely retarded. Thought that was important.
>>507320982>ssf makes the game take a lot longer for those who want to invest a lot of time and submit to the rng of the game and be forced to interact with all the system.except in poe2 there are no systems to interact with so you are doing the exact same thing as tradies. youre just getting less for it. the only exception is that you get to run all invites yourself, which is cool, but they drop so infrequently that 99% of your gameplay is going to be identical to trade league gameplay. at the same time, your progression is fucking horrendous because theres no crafting in the game.
Frogposters aren't people by the way.
loving poo2 but the crafting is just straight up dog shit
>be hikikomori>do some christmas shopping so I can shut in for 2 weeks and play poe>some dudes who drives with 100kmh through the city almost crashes into me>5 disgusting bums ask me in the most disgusting bum way for money while their other bum friends are drinking cheap booze >everyone's loud, stressed and annoying>some street musician plays the zelda theme badly on a piano>buy some food>cashier looks like a bum>she fucked up the input and needs to rescan everything while we wait for her boss to come and reverse it>weather is cold and rainy so I'm not even having fun drivingHoly shit I hate being outside. How do you guys stomach that shit?
>>507321405Yeah I hate that too. I've seen people do hc runs in other games too. Like Borderlands 2. But it's all just based on playing the most op class and farming the most op item combo and then trivializing everyting. I always imagined hc being some gigachad move but turns out its just something fat manchildren use to justify their time spent.
>>507321412this is purely a mentality problem, my character is done when i feel like it exhausted all the content it can do, some characters can do ubers, some characters are good at farming, others in other places. trying to perfect everything is like a for sure way to just not like arpgs.
So the 3rd Monk ascendancy will obviously be an unarmed-focused one and they will actually make the unarmed nodes on the tree not shit when it comes out, right?
>>507320331I filter stuff I don't want to see. I'm sure your crying about it approach is just as valid, though. >reeeeeee nooooooo those drops should be divines insteadAnother valid thing to ask for.
>>507321217if it's a lotto how come the same people always come out ahead of everyone else?why sit itt day after day, week after week.....maybe it's time to let it go.
>>507321605hello?
>>507321109it was years ago sorry i dont have a fuckin folder of quotes saved from random interviews niggger
>>507321552crafting aint finna be exist
>>507320547makes me miss my global darkeden days in highschool where RESISTANCE gear was thing to farm or PAM/SAM buy/sell it to randoms in the town just so you could effectively farm the actual end game areas or "raids"
>>507321605Rainy weather is awesome, there is something wrong with you if you don't enjoy a drive in the rain.
Where the fuck is the paladin class? The armor and energy shield glass? I don't want to play as warrior that's the twohanded pure strength build I want my old white man with a mace and a shield god damn it.
>>507320830i use it and ground explosions in t18s do like 100 damage. turns out you can get armor on other piece, who knew?
>>507321696Because 99% of gamblers quit before they hit big.
>>507321130For what purpose?>SanguimancyOk, you double your health, and?>10% extra damage and you can bleed with elementalDon't see how that would help.>1% inc crit damage per 40 lifeSure 200% inc crit damage at full buff would be nice I guess but I doubt you'll be able to invest much in crit nodes if you're going hard on attributes.>25% life loss over timeA little tankier I guess.>gain ES of body armour>spell leech>spell crit chance is 15%>infinite curse durationUseless.
>>507321605By not living in London
i shouldnt have started with deadeyeit sucked all the fun out of every other class being slow
last peepochpooedilablo
>>507321747Nobody but schuhmacher ever said that. Im playing warrior btw.
Everyone whining about rarity have zero logical argument for why its bad and its all feels based
>They made Small Soul Core quest items in Jiquani's Machinarium drop on leaving zone even though their literal only use is to cheese the doors in Act 3 Cruel, which won't exist in the full version of the game and can be manually dropped literally anywhere anywayIt is incredible how much GGG hates their playerbase.
>>507321129>GGG know from experience that deterministic drops don't keep anyone playing the gamethey have always leaned to trying to get the best of both worlds, poe1 despite what shitters like to think has a metric fuck ton of ways to deterministically craft shit, but there is obviously points of failure you can hit and need to start over. harvest genuinely was the worst thing to happen to the community
Can anyone enlighten me?I was completing an expedition in map and I got "oneshotted". I had 15k ES and I was full ES when I died. My HP bar was green so it was probably Poison DoT (chaos damage).I thought Chaos damage couldn't bypass ES in PoE2. I think it was a bug.
>>507321920I imagine london even worse somwhow.
STOP looting uncut support gems.You have enough for every build you will ever make in EA already just stop looting them.Stop.
dead game
>>507313482Why are heralds martial only? Except herald of plague, I'm assuming for druid to have poison plant spells
>>507322239wrong
>>507321696People who spend most time come ahead. Everyone "good" at this game just plays 12 hours a day. If the game took skill then you would be able to come on top by some other metric than just hours spent.
>>507322093>I thought Chaos damage couldn't bypass ES in PoE2It's exactly opposite
>>507321860well i'm sure you payout should be coming soon.
>>507322093>I thought Chaos damage couldn't bypass ES in PoE2Did you forget to take CI?
>>507321709Hi
>>507321884Brainlet>SangDouble your hp. Heal x% of hp on crit (aka, instant leech for melee)>free progenesisI was going to engage with the rest of your post, but I'm realizing that if you don't see the value in perma prog then you're either baiting or suffering from profound mental retardation.
>>507322280So that Spells (read: flat damage skills which circumvent the importance of a good weapon and Accuracy) aren't even stronger.
Is there any trick to beating the first boss in the chaos trials? Either creature kills me as a necromancer.
Globalchat is being spammed with retarded guild invitesPeople are playing this game in guilds, like wow
>black warrior becomes white when ascending
>>507322465Congratulations, you're still less tanky than a real build.
Any easy damaging ailment you could inflect on yourself to abuse this?
cant stop thingken about frenzy stacking frost blades slayer
Yeah man, let me spend 45 minutes negotiating with people from Thailand or Chinese who can barely speak english about high ticket price items. Imagine thinking you know better than the community and not implementing AH. Oh well, I guess you don't want any newcomers and noobs to enjoy the game (e.g., every single one of them ... every single one ... hates trading on a website)Imagine getting this simple thing wrong and losing revenue because of it LOL.
>>507322025Every slot turns into "as much MF as you can stuff in"Just look at rune slots right now
>>507321104the value of all items in a number-scaling loot game is relative. I'll respond to the key part of your post>Other guy suggests that there could be good competing stats to make MF less attractive, I point out that expanding the mod pool would feel bad in the current state of crafting where we already struggle to get good combinations of modsneither you nor the other guy are talking about the real issue, which is that MF is only attractive because you're both in trade league and can pick items (and therefore what mods to equipe) from a browser, and the content is already trivialized, meaning player death can't work as a disincentive for equipping MF over defenses. if you were playing SSF you would have only the items you found yourself to choose from, and your whole standard of what a "good item" was would be different. your false premise that crafted items and drops in SSF are not "good enough" is because you're mentally comparing them with what you could just buy from other players, i.e. your mentality is not suited to talk about balance. crafting can't ever be balanced around competing with an item market and shouldn't be, because all that would happen is that the market would reflect the greater ease of crafting (the average quality of traded items would go up, and you would find yourself in the position of the gameplay being boring sooner). it would directly affect SSF without fixing the problem you imagine exists: the game is boring because you are not playing the version of the game (SSF mediumcore) in which balance is possible.
is the bog witch boss optional? i hate this bitch, she flies around for 3 minutes and im a melee cuck and can't get to her
>>5073222391. its easier to socket support gems into a skill by using an uncut support gem because the game is trash2. you have to gem swap constantly for different content and its more convenient to have the full skill + supports setup grouped i have like 10 copies of some support gems
>>507322350so someone like darkee killing all ubers like less that 2 days /played is just because he plays so much?thats not how the lotto works.
>>507322447he meant regular chaos damage. poison and bleed still bypasses it.>>507322516there is no necromancer. minions only feel good with 4 links and +6 levels to your current gem level. they either feel like shit or broken.
>>507322693Yes, but she has valuable rewards.Namely 30 Spirit and then 40 Spirit in Cruel.Once you lower her HP enough, the fight goes from irredeemable shit to good. Just keep pushing.
>>507322597Poison with CI would be nice.
>>507322597defense is not something you can abusetry to scaly ur damage instead
Does GGG really do nerfs when some guy with a 100+ divine setup posts their map clears and boss one shots?
>>507322791ok, thanks
What are the odds we will get a surprise christmas update with all missing classes?
>Finding twice as many Exalts isn't attractive to Solo Self Found playersThis has to be bait.>>507322846Yes. PoE1 is balanced for the 1% and PoE2 will be the same because the developers have actually gotten worse over time in regards to violent destruction of anything fun.
>>507322846If it threatens the egos of Deadeye players then it gets nerfed
>>507322494That makes sense
>>507321104>I don't think every single item upgrade has to come from a randomly rolled rare on the floor.it doesn't lolI've personally crafted item upgrades. what are you even talking about?
>>507322657no shit moron, just like the other chase affixes why are people acting like this is not already how all the other good affixes are
>>507322956seeing shitters seethe is fun
>>507321412>tradetranny can't think of a goal besides racing to the end and farming orbs for chang noseberg
>>507310879>>507312961https://youtu.be/pj8FxWMf4V4?t=1438>There's six classes uh that are coming to Early Access. Some of them have already been showcased but they're not in there. Namely, the Druid and the Huntress I think people are curious about are they coming soo? What's going on with these classes?>Yeah so they'll definitely be coming relatively soon. I'm not going to promise a date but certainly the next two classes you see will be those two, in terms of Early Access.
>>507322945? GGG Literally is on holiday break
>>507321129How do they know from experience retard? D2 has a longer and more successful running history than poe1, and poe1 never had deterministic drops. They don't know shit because they're fucking morons
>>5073229450%.They went on vacation a week ago, lad.>>507322846They nerfed Armour Explosion when LITERALLY nobody complained about it, removing its natural ability to chain and imprisoning Warriors into Slams or Warcries.
>>50732294550/50>>507323000how do you even essence craft in this game? the essence price seems to indicate its very shit.
>>507322843Just thinking about possibilities. I don't know most uniques, maybe there's one that enables this
>>507322597there are uniques in poe1 and likely will be in poe2.
>>507323080funny how ssfcucks shit on trade players and beg for more drops at the same time
Sorceress is the worst character charismatically.Accents are not a replacement for a personality.Witch, Merc, and Monk are the best right now. Warrior is a whiny baby.
>>507322618if they make an AH you would never get to go to see other ppls hideouts. i like the current system. if they make an AH they should at least make it so you have to go to their hideout and interact with like a market npc to 'pick up your delivery' or something
Can you migrate leagues right now?
>>507320870yeah that's good. Having good things be accessbile is good. Having better things be accessible later is even better. D2 just didn't go far enough
>>507322768this also the search is literally fucking bugged, i type 'attack speed' and it doesnt highlight my martial tempo gem
>>507323224i like monks va
>>507323021"Other good affixes" is a category with like twenty affixes, "IIR" is a category with one affix.
>>507320607He's karui by birth so like maori
>>507320982disagree hard about hcit just disincentivizes risk, which is lame because i like to go for it and greed a boss if i think i can trade damage for damage or take risks with my build because it seems more fun than just dpsmaxxing or surviabilitymaxxingi always play ssf (well not technically but i only use gear i pick up or from vendors)
>>507321408every other minion is shit
>>507322783Try playing game fresh vs having bazillion stash tabs that just feed your new char everything.
>>507323095Wanted to thank you for actually posting source.It was a shitpost, but these things are commendable in a community that shouts retard on a soundboard
>>507323095the retard you replied to has already seen that quote and is just baiting you to waste time digging up that quote, and he will do it again, do not reply
>>507323228Careful, you might trigger all the antisocial tendies
>>507323546>xhe doesnt knowlmao at your life
>>507322945zero null nihil I'm not sure we will see new class before release at all. Game is half-baked.
>>507323338These runewords aren't just "good", they obsolete everything else. If I don't bother to look at any dropped helms or body armor in a loot game, you've messed up your game design.
>>507322956>balanced for the 1%The 1% of what metric?You can balance the game to reward different things and the top 1% will be different depending on what you reward
>>507321109>Why are GGG dev "quotes" always either made up>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT04EdaBztwbecause people are still seething about this, get rolled reddit.
>>507323132>the essence price seems to indicate its very shit.because of what I wrote in >>507322689people in trade leagues don't need to craft > they don't need essences > essences are near-worthless. pretty simple, and not a sign of a flaw in crafting or game design, just that essences (and most crafting) have to be balanced around SSF.
>>507323080I don't play trade. And you farm orbs to get the items you want vs in SSF you farm orbs to maybe get the items you want. If you think orb bad then orb is even more bad in SSF.
>He plays poePOE2 is just whiteman's gacha, only difference are you pay upfront and instead of waifu you hheheuhuhuheuehu clickclickcliclickclickclick for 7 hours to get 0.006% droprate loot that youkekekje soj you buyyy????xdxdxdxddd
>>507321852>ground explosionsif you can't stand in DD and on-death effects then it's useless. If you can't take a multiproj fireball to the face it's useless
>>507323585Either way someone probably hasn't seen it. >>507323597Took two minutes. Stop being a miserable twat, it's Christmas.
>>507323796This but unironically.
>>507323575>having bazillion stash tabs that just feed your new char everything.unironically retarded.
>>507323796are you the strongest subhuman gachachinks have to offer?
>>507323575moron
>>507323224Nah that's Ranger, weird MLE accent with boring lines.
>>507322693When she flies at you stand near one of the walls she summons and she'll crash
>>507323796I paid $20 in ten years thoughever
>>507323414Singling out magic find is like singling out "+7 to all skill gems" or some shit like thatIts just whining about something out of feels but its literally no different from any other affix
>>507321528>theres no crafting in the game.there's more engagement with crafting in poe2 than at any time in poe1's history.
>reach tier 15 with my galvanic shards herald build>have to run maps like I'm playing hotline fucking miamiIt's surprisingly fun, except when I fuck up or run factory
I'm in Act 2 and Spark feels awful on my Witch.What the hell am I supposed to level with?
>>507322025it's bad because it widens the gap between fast meta builds, and struggling off-meta builds. It's creates an atmosphere of fomo and defeats the purpose of the game from engaging combat to creating a metagame of "currency grind for the ccp". It completely undermines the game and inserts itself into your mind as an insidious virus of "currency good" instead of enjoying the game for its' own sake
>>507323731too much words for a basic concept. if essence crafting would be good the high tier ones wouldnt be cheap as fuck. i think not having an easy way to get good normal bases is also a big problem.
>>507322447I'm infernalist! I reserve 50% of my life>>507322789>poison and bleed still bypasses it.It's the first time I died like this. My HP bar is often green when I'm mapping, it really took me by surprise. I'll be more careful now
>>507324045supplement it with arc+unleash, and orb of lightning
>>507324008>there's more engagement with crafting in poe2 than at any time in poe1's history.you never even played poe1.
>>507323585reddit moment
>Still responding to the same guy saying "magic find is fine, you have no argument!">When he just keeps saying it over and over and over
How do you get atlas points in breach and Delirium? I've done several of them at tier 15 and 16 without getting any points
>>507323735I play SSF too, in SSF orbs are for specific purposes, in trade orbs are to buy items off other players. it's a functional difference not a qualitative one.
i'm level 30 merci have a quest telling me to do trial and get ascensionI don't know which ascension i want. Can I just hold off and wait until I decide?
>>507323129wasn't really a nerf though, more like a bug fix. armour explosion wasn't supposed to trigger itself.
How are people getting a third slot on weapons?
>>507322071semi-deterministic crafting in poe1 is nothing like crafting in poe2. Semi-deterministic crafting is not determinism, is not deterministic drops nor crafting. Ther'es a reason you said "points of failure". That is by definition not determinism
>>507323843DD and on death effects are under ground explosions anon, but yes none of those things do any damage
>>507323585retard
i poo'd but i didn't pee, build for this feel?
>>507324275yeah thats because they want to start scratch and add crafting shit as time goes on you fucking retard, do you think poe1 started with essences, fractured items, and whatever the fuck
>>507324256>bug fixIt was a bug fix because they decided to word it that way.Don't believe everything you read.It felt good, it was one of Warrior's only good clearing methods, and they just deleted it because they felt it was "overperforming."
>>507324107well then, you're wrong about videogames lmaovaluing everything on a market doesn't work becaue there are other ways to play this game.
>>507324235You are using them for same result -> you want better items. In one you get what you want. In the other you gamble for it.
>>507324110kinda unrelated but i hate that energy shield is just this tiny blue bar. i have no idea for when i reach danger value.
>>507321814Templar one day I guess.
>don't have a favouriteaiiiieeeee
>>507324253yes ofc
>>507321814Nah man i want paladin 2h sword and smite
>>507324275points of failure in poe1 crafting are dictated by how cheap or dumb you are.
>>507323228I don't care, I just want to directly buy something instead of the nigger not responding and pricing it higher
>>507323731let me guess, you never used an essence?its not that deep, essences are cheap because they are bad. theres nothing more to itthe only useful essence (as far as im aware) is haste because it forces attack speed on an item, everything else is trash. i thought i would be real clever and use the phys essence to craft a weapon. guess what, leech mods are phys and have way higher weighting than phys damage mods so using a phys essence on an item is barely better than just using a transmute
>>507324107>an easy way to get good normal basesIt's called playing the game
>>507324264Corruption can add +1 socket on 2H weapons and body armours I believe.
>>507323609i do know I tried them all. Archers are good after 100div, that's about it
>>507324275crafting in poe 1 is extremely deterministic for a game based around rng.
>>507324139I've played it since 2013. newbs are crafting from act 1: not optimally, but they're doing it. never even happened in poe1.
>>507324253There is no penalty for holding off. Lot of people just do the trial when they're way higher level and overgeared because of how brutal the trial mechanics can be.
>>507324264vaaling
>>507324081>it's bad because it widens the gap between fast meta builds,Congrats you just described all perfectly rolled items and riced out builds. My shitter build will always feelsbad compared to the level 99 guy who never slept >It completely undermines the game and inserts itself into your mind as an insidious virus of "currency good" instead of enjoying the game for its' own sakeThats literally what the game is build around though, magic find doesn't suddenly make that true. I dont buy that argument either
>>507324551>Archers are good after 100divlol no
>>507322789I've already invested some points into defenses and they still falter like paper to a sneeze. Not sure what they would need to survive longer than one smash.
>>507323635so then let runewords superimpose on rares? That way you have a baseline of power, and incentive to get the best rare to put that on
>ranger>hotkey dodge roll>fap to the soundsa-anyone else?
I really should sell some of this shit
How will they nerf it
>>507324137I tried Arc and it felt even worse somehow.
>>507324557>never even happened in poe1.vendor recipes? essences?
>>507322071>harvest genuinely was the worst thing to happen to the communityagreed. brute forcing crafts by trying lots of times is fine. the difference between poe1 and 2 is that GGG realized you have to make the wearable items meaningful, not just the currency or the mods you roll with the currency, or everyone is just going to sit in their hideouts spamming alts on stuff like the guy who wrote >>507319029 wants to do.
>>507324416congratulations; you've defeated the strawman you createdunfortunately, in real life, ssf players aren't endlessly grinding orbs like mazed tradetrannies; in reality, we get good drops then invent cool builds to use them
>>507323971You pay with your time!!
Any good clear spells besides sparks + flame wall?
>>507324395what the fuck does that even mean? cant you talk like a normal person?>>507324551yeah seems about right. i also tried every minions but on a way less optimized setup. never would have thought the base 1.5 sec attack time minion would scale so drastically. phys damage and big hits are pretty good in this game.accuracy seems to be a problem with them though.i have pretty much everything i need for some further testing except a +3 amulet with spirit.
>>507324746i could see them nerfing astramantis before howa. but i don't see them nerfing either.
I still think scouring orbs shouldn't have been axed. Having more ways to burn currency is a good thing for the economy.
>>507324891Neither of those spells are clear
>>507324631do you know what "widens the gap" means? it means that the gap is there and the existence of magic find increases it. a juiced build drops more items than a shitter builda juiced build with mf drops even more (orders of magnitude) than a shitter build
>>507324780anon, actual new players don't even really find out what those are until hours/days into the game. maybe they kill the dweller in the deep and stare mystified at the baffling list of mods on an essence for a minute. "this adds a random mod to an item" is comprehensible to someone who just started.
>>507324746nah I don't think that will get nerfedinstead they will change gemling and titan
>>507324986they should add it in but like, the more you scour something it will just poof out of existence or something
WHEN DO I GET MY 3RD ONE AHHHH
>>507325009retard
>>507324956>what the fuck does that even mean?He's shitposting, lad.You can even scroll up and spot all his posts cause he uses identical post format.>Circular logic>Constantly referring to other ways to play>Never an image>Always full lowercase posts with the occasional period>Double enter-key between lines he types out, but not between the reply line and his first line
>>507324986they have been moving towards that for a long time. they want bases to have inherent value, in both games.
>>507324689If you're going to design the game around everyone having Stealth, then it's much more elegant to remove runewords as a concept and just give the player a default +25% movespeed and +25% cast speed
these dropped during my act 3 cruel farm. they worth much in general?
>>507324987Oh. Then what is?
>>507324416fortunately, using orbs to get needed upgrades in SSF feels completely different, and has multiple extra layers of gameplay. or I wouldn't still be playing the game, I'd just go to the mall and spend actual money on real things.
>>507324987
>>507325213Those 2 spells.You just got baited.
i want to do a plaguefinger build. i think spark makes the most sense since its duration based, or is the damage of spark too low?
>>507324557>>507324008people are "engaging" with the """crafting""" system because it is as dumb as possible and thus appeals to the most common denominatorif thats your definition of success then you are correct, the crafting in poe2 is great. but maybe you should ask yourself if you also apply that logic of "popular = good" to everything else.
>>507325060Maybe? But a lot of currency gets removed from the economy with scouring and re-crafting. Inflation is happening right now. What should be done with the billions of blue orbs just laying around?
>>507325009a shitter build with magic find is better than a shitter build without nobody is being left behind because magic find exists whats happening is people who didnt realize MF is good suddenly now have to figure out how to get it into their gear and are mad that they need to start swapping stuff aroundIts literally just another lever of stuff that players want to balance on their gear along with what htey feel they can comfortably clear. This is not a new concept and is shit players are already doing
>>507325156if u are going to design the act 1 boss around players being level 15 then the player should just be boosted to 15 upon entering the boss arena
>>507325198they are very good gloves for lightning builds, basically turns your shock into a freeze. price was not much.
>Juice up my map>Extra speed, etc for monsters>Oh it's okay I one hit them anyways>Shade walking negro teleports on me, he has haste and extra crits>Blink>Fucking dieKind of funny desu
>>507324848It's a leisure activity, I'm doing it for funMaybe your problem is just with the concept of extrinsic rewards in games
>>507325354inflation is happening because people abused exploits not because people aren't using currency
>>507325020>from theres more engagement in poe2 crafting than in poe1 ever>to never even happened in poe1>to newbs dont understandhow many times will goalpost change? no, i couldnt give less of a shit about what shitters know or doesnt know. most people starting poe are autistic enough to actually read up some guides or wiki articles and actually engage with systems in the game. just because you are bad at the game and die 200 times before kitava doesnt mean that everyone else also is.
>>507324746astramentis is basically the mageblood of poo2. these are practically set items. they knew what they were doing and how op it would be.
>>507324532>play trade>have no ability to grasp the concept of supply and demand
>>507325079The third one is a sekhema trial
I'm impressed at the number of people here interacting with a literal bot repeating itself constantly..Instead of playing the fucking game.
>>507325406i saw a tranny use it for a galv shard build but thats it. since im merc i might just keep them but switching a whole build feels kinda stupid right now this early into maps
the magic find good poster is obviously trolling, please stop interacting with him
>>507325448MF is intended. GGG wanted to shit up the economy.
They should bring back unique passive trees
>>507322789To confirm what you just said
>>507325448>>507325354oh and rarity affects currency so there is just a metric fuck ton more of it
>>507325518the magic find bad posters have not produced a single logical argument for why its bad
I HATE VIPER AS MONKAHHHHHHHHH
>>507324686capped res and phys reduction especially helps a lot. im not sure when exactly they regen - i think it happens when you dont have a minion reviving at the moment and they didnt take damage for 4 seconds. then they regen a shitload of hp. usally happens when the boss is stunned.if you are still in acts and have no great +minion gear just play srs flamewall with bomb guys or sniper. srs are pretty good and low maintenance. the permanent minions only feel strong in great numbers or at great level.
>>507325518I don't think anyone has made a good principled argument about what makes MF different from other stats yet
Post em
>>507325559i doubt that shit is surviving to make it to 1.0
>>507325448zero evidence of that so I call bullshit
>>507325343>tfw they made crafting so plebian that I can't use it to make myself even more bored after buying the gear I used to get to tier 15s with items that all have crafting functionssorry to hear it
magic find always was a part of arpgs and always will be
>>507325343a big complaint from shitters in poe 1 was crafting wasn't accessible to them, now it is. and this crafting system is better than poe 1s core crafting system by a mile.spamming 6k alts looking for tyrannical isn't a good crafting system, especially when you brick it with a regal 3 seconds later.oh well at least you can scour it.they want a foundation they can build on, not 10 years of feature creep jammed into an essence.
>>507325803you mean how people were farming the beetle that ggg LITERALLY patched out? or how people are now farming the first hourglass trial in sanctum over and over for 3 free rares that is even better than the bettle, are you retarded?
>>507325448Can't even use currency because using currency consumes a weapons ability to be crafted. Stores need to sell white item bases.
>>507325658>>507325618MF funnels players into playing only OP builds that can afford to sacrifice power for rarity. Build diversity goes into the toilet with MF being as important as it currently is. Off-meta builds are punished twofold.Just look how many spark archmages are running around. That is proof enough.
>>507325937>3 rares>better than beetlelol
>>507325630>muh lightningwe told you to go ice
fyi you can probably find a cheap 4 socket gem if you sort by exalts
>>507325968spark archmage is good because its overtuned and unbalanced, its not good because of MF
>>507325968>OP builds that can afford to sacrifice power for rarityis this reddits cope? every build that isn't wearing 10 uniques can put on rarity gear
>>507325964i agree with this, i also just want to be able to buy white bases to chance orb>>507326013wait until you realize you can scale the ilvl with the sanctum method
>>507322239>anon doesn't pick up lvl 20 gems I guess I'm not picking them up either, because I haven't found one yet.
>>507326110>>507326109Let's see your MF Warrior builds.
>>507325728im tired
>>507325618>>507325658I think it's something about it being too meta and not interacting with any other systemsSomething like fire res makes your character better through interaction with the game's other systems and core gameplay, and if you don't have it you can make up for it by being extra careful around fireMF just reads "when you drop shit, it's better than what other players drop", and it comes at a comparatively low affix opportunity cost so you can't just make up for it by assigning your affixes to other stats and killing faster/surviving moreMaybe that's the real problem, the effect of MF should just be cut by 9/10ths so it's not mandatoryReddit spacing for readability, fuck you
How bad is your build if you are reliant on every single affix and cannot spare any for mf?
>>507322597Bro your Fulcrum chieftain?
>>507326171warrior can run a 240% rarity shield for free and the life/rarity 5 rune chest is BIS.
>>507325968>MF funnels players into playing only OP builds that can afford to sacrifice power for raritystop playing solo like a cuck
>>507326110pretty much this, they made the higher tier maps less punishing in terms of requiring capped resistances etc , there is room for MF on any fucking build
>>507326327Stop using other players as a crutch.
>>507323667>The 1% of what metric?The question that stumps 100% of x%-whiners.
>>507325968>i can't sacrifice 3 or 4 affixes on my gear for some rarity rolls.it's not even an uncommon roll, most items have rarity on them lol
>>507326335>>507326260So MF is a required stat and you can't craft for it. Trade is therefore mandatory to play the game at a base level.
>>507325630Another shit boss with invincibility phases. Don't worry, you'll get her on the next try.
It's pretty damn easy to gear up in trade already. A lot of great upgrades go for a few exalts while stuff with 4/6 or 5/6 of the correct affixes but with low-mid tiers can be bought with 10s of exalts.
>>507326116>wait until you realize you can scale the ilvl with the sanctum methodisn't that gated by the need to farm Baryas?
my friend follows me around with gravebind and 700% iir and we get 2-3 divines every map. be thankful we put t0s on the market for you poorfags.
>>507326260Do you think it's good game design if every player has to set a trade site filter for only gear with MF and never even see anything else?
>>507323095Based source poster. >>507323585Based source enjoyer.
>"I will die if I walk into this pack">walk into the pack>die What does my brain mean by this?
>>507326423Mad you didn't get a reply in half an hour?Cute. Here, I'll throw you a bone.The 1% is a catch-all term for the elite few. In PoE's case, it just means "poop-sockers who play 19 hours a day, streamers who play the game because it's their job, Chinese gold farmers because it's their job, and any users of RMT.
>an unexpected disconnection occurred
>mandatory stat for EVERY class and EVERY buildDINGDGINDINGDINGDINGDING RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT THIS MEANS IT'S BAD DESIGN WHOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAA BUDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYY
>>507326556I do the same for life on gear, you didn't give a fuck then and whine about life being mandatoryTry playing without life on every piece of gear and see how you do
this games replayability is shit, honestly. first time was ok, but if you just want to get through the story as fast as possible all the bosses are a fucking slog
>>507326556The game is designed around trade.
>>507326540no you can reuse the same one, literally just logout before the time runs outhttps://youtu.be/r4F8xB9ynLsthis is also why it's fucking retarded to care so much about trade economy in an half finished early access game.
>used blink when its available>no shield charge>was melting bosses>skipped unnecessary shitnot bad. made like 3-4 hours pause / let the game idle. not sure if that counts. i never thought i would be that quick after 3 weeks. maybe it can be casually rushed as fast as poe1 when you know the map layouts. didnt try to speedrun btw. its my 3rd character.
>jump back into poe after a week>latest drama is mf
>>507322689>MF is only attractive because you're both in trade league#1 Not everyone wants to play SSF and that's fine.#2 MF is still useful in SSF because the rarity stat is generally strong in PoE2#3 SSF has some fucking problems in PoE2 as well so get off your high horse.#4 SSF in PoE1 totally mogs SSF in PoE2 because you can pick Expedition, Harvest, Delve or whatever. You have a bazillion crafting options and that's what makes SSF tolerable in the first game. When PoE2 gets a crafting league SSF will become way the fuck better.
>>507326327> needs others to play his game instead of him, otherwise he cannot enjoy itTalk about cuckoldry.
>>507326458the next 10 rare items i id at least 3 of them will have rarity rolls. deal with it.
>>507326679I literally play CI and don't look for life lolThere is no equivalent for not having MF
Honestly life mods on gear should be removed. Unless you're playing CI, it's mandatory to have life on every piece of armour, ring and amulet that you're wearing regardless of class.
>>507326693i'm on my third character
>>507326798But that means you automatically ignore all items with no rarity rolls. Literal garbage items.
What support skills do I want to put on my tempest bell? Using tempest flurry as my main attack with monk.
>>507325079
I love that they dropped a Smashing Pumpkins reference into poe2 but they picked a deep cuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz6g4-67_F8
>>507326290whats the 240% rarity shield?
>>507326803then replace what I said with energy shield or mana retardUnequip all your gear and only run blues with magic find and see if you can still do the same content you are currently doingI'll wait for the webm
>>507321405huh, I never realized that primed for stun doesn't go away. I should try that next during that fight. The mobs that spawn tends to overwhelm me so I kill them quick. But that leads me to getting hit and stunned.
>>507325475what does that mean, are you suggesting that i play trade? there is no real demand for essences because they are bad, not because of them secretly being good but people being too dumb or lazy to use them.i play ssf and i use the essences that the game throws at me but the majority of them just sucks. most essences increase the chance of getting a useful mod by like 100% at best by weeding out some bad mods from the pool (pic related) and the game gives you so many bases that it barely makes a difference. instead of alt + aug slamming 10 bases per map i only alt 9 of them and essence the last one and now i get the equivalent of alt + aug slamming 11 bases, great. the only really useful one as far as im aware is haste (force movespeed on boots or attack speed on weapon / gloves)compare that to poe1 where a shrieking essence has a ~100 times higher chance of giving you a useful item.
>>507326869I know what you were trying to do but you blew yourself the fuck out in your own post. Good job retard.
>>507326749What do you think the next one will be?
>>507326886no it means that you are a fomo retard who is upset because some streamers are engagement farming current thing.a week and a half ago the same faggots were crying that there wasn't enough loot in the game.king fag ziz himself even brings it up in his bitch video about magic find lol.
Honestly all gear should have a single stat called POWER while Uniques come with their own unique modifier.
Viper is LAUGHABLE in cruel with la orb rods LMAO
God, you people are genuinely insufferable.
I can't believe how bad this skill is that's wild
>>507326719>its a logout exploit>it's only because the retard doesn't want to risk XP loss its fucking hysterical the lengths people will go to avoid playing a video game.
>jungle with good graphics>draining the lake>temple of kopec>molten vault>pre catastrophe vaal civilization >the entire black chamber + boss fightOh my FUCKING god act 3 is based. I never should have doubted.
>>507327113Those are not mutually exclusive you fucking retard. God damn you're fucking stupid.
>>507326798>at least 3 of them will have rarity rollsAnd the other rolls are garbage.You have the other rolls you need, then you add rarity on top as a necessity, thus making it harder to find gear.
>>507327067>CI means mandatory life is goodOk.
I equipped all blues that only have MF and I'm able to clear T15 maps because the only stat that matters is MF
>>507321405Nice webm anon.
POE2 GOOD
1 portal maps were the best thing they ever added. there's a reddit meltie about it daily.
>>507327262Retard.
i gota pee
>>507327250oh interesting so gear that has every single good affix that I want is hard to find Wow thats fucking WILD, I never had to deal with that ever
>>507327415>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>507326610Not that guy: You're just saying you think PoE should be designed to reward time spent over player ability
imagine not being able to tank elemental ground explosions with these mods
>>507327242next week they will tell you about a new thing to get upset about. and you will sit here and cry about how it's the end of the world, how could this happen! it's a crime against humanity. maybe a buff, maybe a nerf, could be a class, or a boss drop. whatever it is don't for get to comment, like and subscribe!
theres a very hostile aura surrounding this thread right now and its all jonathans fault for making such a shit gamenobody would be seething in poopyegg if they were having a fun time playing poe2 instead
>>507327460You refuted your own argument. Life is not a mandatory stat because there are a large number of builds that do not need life. Retard.
help me understand
>>507325937>>507326719What an absolute waste of time. You get none of the bonuses from corrupting and running t17-18 maps. You also get none of the "league" content items and you don't progress towards citadel'sGarbage
>>507327445>is hard to findAnd you make it harder by forcing rarity on top. Why are you writhing about in pilpul?
>>507327113>a week and a half ago the same faggots were crying that there wasn't enough loot in the gameGive it 6-12 months and they will be crying that there is "no loot" again. It happens over and over. Whenever Empy demands it, Reddit marches for him.
>>507327581Chance orb? That particular base might not have a unique associated with it
>>507327581there are no uniques with that base
>the visionI kneel
>>507326993My point is that the existence of CI and MoM gives players choices for defensive layers and therefore keep a bunch of different affixes valuable. A piece of gear can be good with life AND/OR energy shield AND/OR manaMF is one stat, that every build wants on every piece of gear that can get it.It's like movespeed, which should ALSO be removed from the game and which PoE1 did after understanding this
>>507327582you might be retarded
>>507327593And why is that a problem lmao
>>507327706I just got done with the Atlas passive map quest and have not found a single one of these better than lesser.
what stats do i look for on an frost/ice monks weapon?
>why is making gearing substantially harder a problemYou'll be getting no more (you)'s little jew.
Facts don't care about your feelings ;)
If Trade is mandatory and the game is built around it, then it's time for a fucking auction house.
>>507327728>having a stat that is valuable for everyone is bad because.... it just is okay!!!!In fact I hope they take it a step further and make item rarity be possible to roll negative on every piece of gear
>>507327237ATZIIIIRI ATZIIIRI
>>507313482>fart walk doesn't proc with the floating body armour mtxVery funny haha. I bet it doesn't work with Demon Form either
>>507327927No. Chris and Jonathan want you to feel the weight of every trade.
>>507327927B-but then it would be harder to scam!! Tecent won't allow that.
>>507326782all fair points. >SSF in PoE1 totally mogs SSF in PoE2 because you can pick Expedition, Harvest, Delve or whatever.a temporary problem. assuming GGG don't ruin it by trying to make crafting equally meaningful in trade league, then they have a really good foundation to build on. >When PoE2 gets a crafting league SSF will become way the fuck better.well, if i'm correct then you might not perceive a crafting league as a crafting league, as the crafting won't attempt to be better than buying items with the mods you want directly off of other players. but I'm sure GGG will throw in a few endgame bosses and some kind of minigame with non-crafting related rewardss.
>>507327931Having a stat that is valuable for everyone is bad because it disincentivizes build and gearing variety, which are good things to have in a game
>>507327795Attack speed, crit, and damage. You can either get big phys or big elemental damage because the good quarterstaff skills convert anyway.
>>507327795Item rarity because it exponentially scales your damage for every % you have. No other stat matters, all damage and defense is scaled by item rarity%
So trade league is completely fucked? What are the chances they do a reset? This rarity stacking is giving people an insane amount of Divines
>>507327927the game is also built around players with big brains stealing from small brains
>>507328141There will not be a wipe, they said so, suffer.
First one, in Tier 7
I don't really give a shit about economy and mf and shit. I just play the game until I clear all the endgame content.
>>507328141>Yeah>Late January>It was revealed to me in a dream
>>507322689the optimal strat in hcssf is to have as much magic find as possible. you might be retarded.>uhhh why dont people in hcssf have 600% magic find thenbecause its a slower mode and it takes time to get gear
>>507328141I doubt it, I wouldn't expect more than 1 per 3 months. I think they said they'll consider it if the economy's turbo fucked, but the issue is they'd hemorrhage players resetting after less than a month.
>>507327728the solution, btw, is to make MF only available as a prefix on weapons.
>>507328230The endgame is infinite though
>>507327706I don't know why every retard and his mother is shocked by this change. The point wasn't to make linking common. The point was to make it less cancer (clicking 1.5k times to 6 link) and to pull gems from gear.The way it is now, you still have progression from unlink -> 6 link, but you don't need to give yourself carpal tunnel or play trade sumulator for 2 hours to swap shit around to accomodate your specific jewel config.I'd say it was a huge success.
>>507328091>Item rarity because it exponentially scales your damage for every % you have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juhu0Z8mYtcrarity PRINTS money
>>507328082Every single build in Path of Exile 2 can slot in MF in their rares unless that slot requires a unique.Every single build
>Radio Silence for 6 days...
>>507328347It ends once I've killed all the endgame bosses.
>>507327931>having a stat that is valuable for everyoneyes? there being an objectively best stat in the game is bad for a game about building DIFFERENT characters
>>507327689>>507327697fuck ok gotcha thanks bb
>>507327927well it isn't, and it isn't, so it isn't.
>>507328085thank you is the conversion 50% phys or ele?
>>507328074>crafting won't attempt to be better than buying items with the mods you want directly off of other players.where do you think people get the items you buy on trade? i haven't bought an item outside of magebloods and very specific bases in poe 1 in almost 7 years. learn how to use the tools the game gives you.
Any fun builds for gemling bros? I've gotten to maps and I'm bored out of my mind.
>>507328387yea its christmas
>>507328365holy fuck
mf is bringing back the good old days. Fuck PoE1babbies.
>have campaign rarity gear >get multiple exalts and a divine per act Ok this shit is broken. Bosses must have some totally whack first kill bonus now. I have 60 rarity on my power level gear and wound up with 15 ex 2 divine end of act 3 normal.
very nice
>>507326782>makes SSF tolerableyou are completely missing the point of ssf in poe. people begged ggg to implement a self found feature because the game is too easy with trade and a bunch of people began playing with self imposed challenges like solo self found. ssf is not meant to be tolerable, its meant to be an additional challenge. you are not meant to get everything you want solo, you are meant to play with stuff that you happen to find or craft.
>>507328532yeah i got so bored i stopped playing, they need to either fix the rest of the skills or give us more,
got to 86 with invoker monk. kind of bored now, im going to solo self merc
>>507328354what are you talking about? it takes less clicks to 6 link a chest in poe1 than it takes to 6 link a gem in poe2the change was done so that you could switch out chests more easily instead of being stuck on your 6l chest until you have enough fuses to 6l another. but now you cant switch out gems, which is arguable worse.
>>507328434Still waiting for your webm of gameplay of only using rarity item blues and clearing T15 maps
>>507328365jesus christ it's over.CHRIS NERF THIS NOW!!!!!!!!
>>507327927>people full clear SSF in under two daysStop crying.
>>507328365>17 goldOH MY GOD!!!
>>507328734no one has ever stated this or in fact even implied anyone ever doing this.
>no map that is just a golden field of wheat or tall grassthey had one job
Simple mf fix, it has finishing returns the higher it is instead of linear
>>507328513poe2 crafting is already very different, I'm saying I hope its going to stay different.
>>507328074>if i'm correct then you might not perceive a crafting league as a crafting league, as the crafting won't attempt to be better than buying items with the mods you want directly off of other playersIf the crafting system is actually good then I would much rather grind out my own crafting mats and make my own items. It just feels like smacking my head against a wall when I try to do it in PoE2, so I'm not getting the satisfaction of making my own shit, and that's what really bothers me. I don't know if you ever like actually MADE something from scratch in your life, but trust me there is satisfaction in using something you made yourself.By the way you're still a condescending ass. I'll resist the urge to call you a retard though since you actually typed up a few coherent sentences.
>>507328720>takes less clicks to 6 link a chest in poe1 than it takes to 6 link a gem in poe2
>>507328907oh so its as if the other stats do matter on gear, interesting, i thought MF was the only thing that mattered
>>507328782its physically impossible to full clear poe2 ssf in 2 days /played because you cant find 5 citadel sets in that timeframe
>see the 1 div howa on the sitethis nigger is just price fixing isn't he
>>507328947nah its boring, need to go to the trash, game need to be remade
>>507323965i ended up just equipping a shit ton of fire resistance and it made the whole fight trivial af
just make rarity scale with map modifiers so you get more loot the more dangerous the map is, why is anyone even defending mf on gear it's lazy retarded d2 shit that never works cause anyone that has a brain would sacrifice a tiny bit of defense or damage for more loot
>>507328365Kek
>>507328603>wound up with 15 ex 2 divine end of act 3 normal.literally around what I got by the end of cruel without rarity gear. sounds like the game is working normally.
>>507328936And the mobs are invisible until you hover over them!This is literally what everyone liked in Act 1!
>>507328365easy tink
>>507328936Imagine the cries about ground effects.
>>507329008no one implied the other stats don't matter, it's just that rarity overshadows literally every other stat in the game so you can forgo whatever stat you are missing for MF without it actually mattering. you still need a character for it to function. why are you being so facetious about something this simple and obvious you know exactly what i meant
>>507328986?1st click open crafting bench2nd click select the chest3rd click place it in the bench4th click select "6 linked sockets"5th click press craftin poe2 you need to click 2x per jewelers orb (once to select it, once to apply it) so for 3 orbs thats already 6 clicks
>>507329010Nigger I didn't find one citadel playing since launch in trade league this game is busted
>>507329062oh wow so you are saying that everyone bitching about MF can simply just slot in new gear with it (within reason without bricking your build) and obtain all the benefits I thought it was impossible to slot in unless you were a mega farmed stormweaver
got to tier 10 maps on warrior, 75% all 4 res, 80% armor(15k) stampede buildusually nothing does damage to me, but then i overlook a frost bomb or a firebomb and i get instakilled (1700hp)any way to deal with that? essentially been stuck at lv 81 for 3 days because i die every 3rd map because of this, essentially i never take damage or it's instakill dmg that I can't even flask (i do mash flask in advance to avoid this happening, but i still die like a tard)on another note, this was my first playtrough and while i understand some mechanics, I bought all my gear and thus my theory is lacking - will it do me any good to do a SSF playtrough to learn the game, or is it from that standpoint a waste of time and only played as a challenge run? thank you guys
>>507329187>>507329218It could be a unique one like the paradise island map. I don't care - it is just such a nice effect that they only used in Act 1
>>507328603i didn't get my first divine til 100 hours, but i hadno rarity. right now i only have 3 divines
there is unironically some dude in this thread trying his damnedest to defend rarity
>>507329272You need twice as much health as you have. You need max life rolls and str on everything.
>>507329232Because you are trading off something in the short term to slot in MFI can go get 200% MF right now if I wanted but I cannot to the same tier maps I was doing before because of it. Now its up to me to figure out what combination gives me the most efficient use of my time for whatever goal I have. Thats the point of these fucking games
>there is unironically some dude in this thread trying his damnedest to defend rarity
>>507328365How did they let this go in untested?
>>507328141It's standard league. Nobody will give a shit about it as soon as they launch their first league.
>>507329457>Because you are trading off something in the short term to slot in MFthere is no short term for MF you absolute fucking retard, there is no reason to take it off EVER why the fuck would you
>>507329392You can guarantee that he's also one of the people who spam how bad the game is because of X, Y and Z. Either that or he's just abusing the shit out of rarity.
>>507328365I'm so fucking mazed that even knowing it's a parody the sound gives me a rush
shit motherfucking nigger game by a shit motherrfucking nigger company
>>507329510the shitty loot?
>>507328980this is hysterical, you're really convinced that SSF players craft less of their gear than you do in tradeleague because... umm... they just do okay?>I don't know if you ever like actually MADE something from scratch in your life, but>By the way you're still a condescending ass:DDDDDD
>>507328365>people are actually seething in commentslmao
>>507329272>do a SSF playtrough to learn the gameThat's gonna require some intrinsic game knowledge, or you'll just bang your head into every wall you'll see because you can't progress.Up to you, my guy.
>>507329457admitting you can't do high tier maps with rarity on gear is not the hill you want to die on, that's just your inability to build a character.
Seems to me like you goofs forgot this is early access and we are literally beta testing Imo it's okay for a beta to be a little fucked up and still need some work
>>507329543BECAUSE I WONT BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME CONTENT I USED TO BE ABLE TO DOIf an insane upgrade without MF lets me be more efficient clearing higher tier maps at the cost of less MF thats for me to figure out if its worth that trade off in terms of drops I wantAre you all actually retarded or
>>507329586no amount of tinks can get me to endure the mapping in this game. jonathan has evicted me from his maze
>>507329062>just make rarity scale with map modifiers so you get more loot the more dangerous the map isthat's why you make MF a weapon prefix. if you want better loot, the monsters need to be harder to kill. simple.
if you want the loot and refuse to play in group then you might be brain damaged
>>507329683>I didn't get the gear i"m looking for yet to drop yet to do the content I want, that means I failed at building my characteryou actually might be retarded
i'm ssf btw
>>507329896Group play is a highly unethical and extremely homosexual activity.
>>507329830MF should be based on how badly you fuck enemies. The harder you overkill the more loot that explodes out of itSimple as
>>507330031cant hear you through my tinks
>>507328365Holy pog
>>507329510>implying they didn't do this on purpose
>>507329272seconding what the other guy said, you ultimately want like 4k hp.
>>507330031TRVTH NVKE
>>507329659>That's gonna require some intrinsic game knowledge, or you'll just bang your head into every wall you'll see because you can't progress.what intrinsic knowledge does poe2 require in ssf that it does not require in trade? the only knowledge required is the ability to identify the strength of a piece of gear, which arguably is more important in trade. theres nothing to know about in this game.
>>507330092>poison/bleed/ignite builds are fucked because damage stops when they hit 0While I do think it's a funny idea there are clearly a few flaws.
>>507330092>why am i only dealing 10k overkill damage and that metacuck in group is dealing 1000mil overkill damage its unfair!!!!!!
>>507330282I died 312 times. I am in Act 3 cruel. Why is this game so hard?
>>507330248How quickly their health melts from 100% would have to be factored in for DoT type effects
>>507329272SSF delays everything but makes all progress more meaningful. if you're someone who assesses progress by the rate you reach LEVEL=MAX then trade is faster.
>>507330247Read your post again but slowly.
>>507330418Poison in particular tends to take time to ramp up.
>>507329543gggs design goal for mf in poe.>you weaken your character locking you out of higher tier content while making the lower tier content more rewarding.what happened with poe 1 was 10 years of powercreep so people could run full mf and farm the hardest content.their solution to that was to shift iiq on to maps and off the player, thats why iiq gear in poe 1 is all legacy now.poe 2 is at the bottom of the power creep ladder so you can have rarity as it was originally intended.
I want to give Balbala a sip of water, I feel bad for her.
>first breach>games shits out 10 millions monsters >get cornered and rapedI'm sure glad they decided to give us the endgame in early access, these were definitely resources well spent.
>>507329637You are literally talking to a guy who played through the entire campaign and up to t5 maps in SSF before rerolling in trade league. Why is your entire argument "I'm SSF so I'm smarter than you"? That is exactly why I am calling you a condescending ass.
>>507330092>take waypoint to Normal difficulty riverbank >farm 1000 divs/hour hitting zombiesfcukiibased
>totems are badhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxrur1n2aI
Worth 15ex?
>>507330498?your post stated that ssf requires intrinsic game knowledge unlike trade. i am asking you, what game knowledge is this that is required in ssf but not trade?
>>507330620ever tried dealing damage?
>>507330674monster lvl would have be factored into the MF formula somehow but ya this should be a thingYou should feel good for shitstomping mobs in these games
>>507330620They confirmed breach will be nerfed soon, no worries. No fun allowed
>>507325247When I roll 8% cold res on my lvl 60 item I just feel like some stupid animal playing a game invented for addicts. And then when I roll big how am I supposed to feel good when I am self aware to the fact that it's luck? I'm not doing anything, I'm not good or bad, I'm just wasting time in asylum for losers who could never pursue any real skill or proficiency. It truly is the path of an exile.
>>507330620bro just clear the entire screen with 1 ability and get more loot than the rest of the map combined. its called slow and methodical combat
>>507330734Two bloody great handfuls
>>507330734>AI image>clickbait textNot opening
poe2 maps should unironically be endless sanctum
I'm done playing until they add delve
>>507331089that would be terrible design because it would be fun and fun has no place in poe2. clear those rares buddy
GOD I FUCKING LOVE CAUSTIC ARROW
>>507330559you barely weaken your character in poe2 for mf lmao
>>507328505Phys-> elemental conversion is on the skill gems. Like 60% or 80% for most elemental quarterstaff skills.
>>507331245screenshot your build right now and swap in MF gear and then record yourself clearing the same content you could before
>>507331245ok anon so whats the problem then? it's just fire res, who cares?
>It's another episode of Ritual spawning in the most dogshit cancer dead end possible
Ok shit i made a 6-12div belt lol cool
rarity not only affects currency it also has quantity built in.lmao. what is jonathan doing?https://youtu.be/opNSvAkiMKU
Lol I can't wait till GGG gets back from break. The first post back is gonna be so interesting. There's no way they won't address the MF shit going on.
>>507330789Sorry my rng wasn't good enough to bless me with gear good enough to make up for my passive tree.>>507330874>>507330978It's just so random compared to the rest of the game and poorly explained. The same with the expedition mechanic with the explosives. I thought it would be the same as the schizo visions but I was wrong.
>>507331523 its gonna get taken down
>>507331389Flask charges per sec is such a shit mod.
>>507313904Last league I played was Scourge, started Settlers three weeks ago and it's honestly some of the best PoE I have played. And I started playing in the invite-only beta.
Back at past Utzaal on cruel and it's rough going. Anyone have a picture of the layout so i dont waste any more time going wrong directions? I remember this map being a bit rough the first time but i'm really hitting a wall on cruel.
>>507331347he's mostly right assuming you got expensive gear. you can get tons of rarity on random gear which is strong otherwise too.in poe1 you had to wear shit uniques to mf.
>>507331523mf is getting removed
>>507331701good lmaocan not wait for the >I DIDNT GET TO EXPLOT MAGIC FOUND AND NOW I ACNT HAVE GOOD ITESM SO I CANT OUT OF ACT ! WHERE IS REFUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>motherfuckers released the game before the holidays and then took 2 weeks offVideo game devs are fucking worthless bitches
I hope by the time next year when the game fully releases everything will be gutted. The campaign is so good and everything turns to pure garbage as you hit maps
when are we getting poe2 fresh? economy is ruined.
>>507330634>the entire campaign and up to t5 maps in SSF before rerollingshame that's where it starts to get really good (and difficult)>"I'm SSF so I'm smarter than you"actually that's unfairly reductive.you do legitimately seem to not get the point of RNG gating in an ARPG, but its a conceptual problem, not one of intelligence level necessarily.
>>507331861when the game releases
>>507331981>>507331981>>507331981>>507331981
>>507331856It's probably good from a company standpoint, there was likely a huge crunch to get the EA out on time. This way they reward employees for working 80 hour weeks.
>>507331840this is literally all the whining is aboutpeople that dont have MF on their gear just angry that they now need to swap out gear with MFonce this replacement happens nobody is going to bitch about MF and everyone will be happyIts unironically good that they get 2 weeks to let this shit simmer because everyone will get over it in two weeks
>>507314279>forsen this forsen thatLiterally unironically seriously kill yourself asap
the endgame builds are so lame. if it wasnt for mana and attribute stacking i think most would be back at poe1 now.>castrated all charges>castrated all uniques>nerfed life stacking before the game even launches>hotfixes every single combo that people discover within the first couple dayswhat the fuck are we supposed to play?
>>507324008alt-auging an item isn't crafting
>>507325930how is crafting any more accessible in poe2? This makes no fucking sense>remove features and functionality to crafting>nerf drops>Look! Crafting is more accessible!! lmao fucking retard. I had more currency to do shit with in poe1 by end of campaign in all regards. Crafting was absolutely more accessible if the baseline you are talking about is crafting a 3 stat rare.
>they're still crying that 10 comets a second was nerfed
>>507330941>I just feel like some stupid animal playing a game invented for addicts.uhhhhhhhhh>then when I roll big how am I supposed to feel good when I am self aware to the fact that it's lucksuspension of disbelief, same way you don't stop and go "omg none of this is real it is all numbers in a computer!". when you find an item for 2 exalt that would take 50+ exalt to craft how are you supposed to feel good: you basically just hunted for bargains, no monster slaying was involved so... (etc etc). >When I roll 8% cold res on my lvl 60 itemyou keep multiple crafting projects going at the same time. the new version of Expedition League even incorporates this by letting you leave up partially finished items when you run out of artifacts. essences you spam on a bunch of white bases, then you aug them and throw away the garbage ones and wait until you get greater essences, etc. you get 3-mod items that way. this is reflected by how exalts work, you only use them on items that are already good.
>>507332734
>>507328302This would work.>>507328383That means every build is forced to do it
>>507328365
uh guys?
>>507316830You had 8The 30$ access gives you 300 Chriscoins
>>507330620breach is the only thing my character is somewhat good at, i hope they dont nerf the density
>>507334908Oh, thanks. I now remember buying the bug for 2 coins lmao.
Finally get to endgame and this is what it is.... You're not allowed to die at all in maps at all, this is ridiculous. I really dont understand the thinking here.
