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Yes the dark ages were real, yes the fall of rome was a disaster for western civilization, yes the people on picrel are 99% responsible for it and should actively be blamed and shamed.Germanics are the cancer of europe, eternal cowards, buffons, incompetents, liars and traitors. There's no salvation for Europe unless we destroy the Germanic race until there's nothing left of it but a faint ill memory.
>>18251546Goya since he fathered Romanticism, while Delacroix just followed the trend.
>>18250593Rome sucked for anyone that wasn't rich enough to be a slave owner.
>>18252130>Leif Eriksson had already done it onceYou're a deeply unserious person
>>18252164Rembrandt alone disproves your thesis
>>18252194The Dutch and Flemish are the only Germanic who can into arts but on the other hand their auditive diarrhea of a language prevent them from having any half decent literary work which I think is why they put all their skill points in visual arts
I have been surprised constantly by the genius of god.The way he balanced the races perfectly so they have their own territories and created a zone where they could all coexist together.It's like starcraft and world of warcraft except in real life.Is it true that a lot of storytelling and games created throughout history are based on the world's races?
>>18251946Jews are white. Many MENA are white too, though not the ones who have a large amount of African or South Asian admixture.
>>18251969White means of European ethnicity. All whites are caucasoids but not all caucasoids are whites. Ashkenazim are definitely white though. Germanized Italians.
in a real sense the world is majority brown, its not balanced at all
>>18252169There is no such thing as a "brown" race. Latinos, Arabs, Indians and Southern Europeans are genetically unrelated."Browns" aren't a genetic cluster like whites and yellows are.
>>18251849Nationality being different from ethnicity is modern Jewish nonsense to flood Europe with foreigners.Before 1945 and the Jewish takeover of Europe, "nation" and "ethnicity" were interchangeable. Nations were simply the ideological representations of ethnicities.Nationality isn't "culture + allegiance", it's bloodline first and foremost.
If Islam only makes sense once you understand Qu'ranic Arabic why isn't this told to the public by dawah personalities?
>>18252121What are these supposed "misunderstandings" of arabic that are impossible to translate into not just english but any other language? God muslims are so stupid
Pretty retarded replies you have acquired OP
>>18252140I unironically learned Ivrit/Hebrew to do this.Short version, the oral torah is bonkers and rabbis are willing to argue with you over anything. 'It's not a rape, he fell off a roof and his cock got stuck in her.'
It's funnier when you realize that all the Muslims in the world who can't speak Arabic are still raised with the Arabic Quran so they don't even understand what's being said. Their prayers are also in Arabic, and they have "schools" where little kids memorize the Arabic Quran from start to finish without even knowing what it means.
>>18252121muslim here, imma do you the courtesy of clarifying your questions and cutting out the bs>Maurice Bucaille learned arabic just to read quranalready the bullshit radar is beeping, it is very doubtful he learned arabic just to read the quran for two reasons: arabic is a very complex language (probably as bad as chinese) and the arabic quran is very different from the normal arabic (it's archaic in a sense)so he probably learned specifically the archaic one but even then i don't think he'd understand it as much as a native speaker and this is no new thing, the gap between translations and the real work has always existed and as far as i know there's nothing to bridge that gap yet (hopefully brain chips will allow us to in the future) and this is no exception>>18252142i honestly don't know but the promotion of slavery is undeniable, im not sure where these misunderstandings lie, they're probably using the inherent flaw of translations that i stated earlier as a cope>>18252183i always found this odd too although i think they have to learn arabic to a degree in order to understand it, but i can see them reciting verses of a language they know nothing about, kind of like singing along anime music
Protestant prayers to become Christian are nearly no different from the Islamic Shahada and are in stark contrast to the traditional rites of Baptism and Confirmation.
>>18251712No, they'd rather have imaginary relationships with other people before even thinking about deepening their relationship with Christ. They're looking for best friends in Heaven, not any personal approaching of Jesus.
>He was praying in a certain place, and after he had finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” So he said to them, “When you pray, say: Father, may your name be revered as holy./ May your kingdom come./ Give us each day our daily bread./ And forgive us our sins,/ for we ourselves forgive everyone indebted to us./ And do not bring us to the time of trial.”Do you see anything here hinting about praying to anyone else in Heaven besides God?
>>18251722>"Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective"Where does it say that they can not be alive.
>>18252087Jesus promised eternal life; therefore, they are alive
>>18250628The Old Testament God was not someone who'd be approachable by a simple layman. Even the priests and prophets feared His presence.
Why are secular/atheist countries more developed?
>>18251325>irreligiosity ALWAYS destroys social cohesionSomeone with a 133 IQ wouldn't say an absolute statement like that, let alone one this untrue.
>>18251012If this has always been the case how did we ever make it this far?It's not like the real world rewards high IQ as much as academia does.
>>18251087a woman is what you contextually call a woman with statistical analysis. You call a videogame character a woman despite it not having a womb or ovaries. But when it is necessary for you to put your dick inside it, the criteria for being a woman changes dynamically. Being a woman is fluid and contextual.
>>18251315>Mexican intellectual I bet your shitskin zoomer ass isn't even old enough to get that reference.
>>18251997A vidya character is an image of a woman.
Was it even real?And if it was, what leads a person to commit such horrendous attrocities without remorse, and why so many? What lack of morals? Were they all psychopaths? Nobody is said to have been as horrific as the japanese were in terms of human experimentation.
>>18248519thisvivisection was widespread among jap doctors in china, SEA and japan itself and not necessarily connected to 731/ishii, they trained surgeons on civilians and POWs this way that said the medical community in japan at the time in general had pretty strong ties to 731 overall so it's hard to say what came first reference: suzy wang's chapter in this book >>18248402
Daily reminder that the spammer is the product of a geriatric pregnancy and has a sexual dysfunction that leads him to spam on /his/ and /k/, sexual related topics
>>18252051You're an Iraqi paedophile or copied that straight from his posts.Provide a single piece of evidence of:>geriatric pregnancy >and has a sexual dysfunctionLike a photo or proof of identity of parents age and where you got this (hint, you can't prove it because it's just baseless insults spammed by the Iraqi paedo, whose actual pictures and ID are all over the archives.)Post a piece of single evidence of any of the claims you made.Also I love how you didn't refute q single posts about Japanese women being whores but hist made an ad hominid attack.
>>18252051>>18252095Also the Iraqi paedophile is in Sweden and is associated with Alsaudi family of Kristianstad.can this paedophile provide any actual proof of what he says?
>>18248003Typical Japan bashing propaganda pushed by communists
Why is the Virgin Mary only revered throughout Catholicism? Aren’t there other Christian religions that honor Her?
>>18252177>Why is the Virgin Mary only revered throughout Catholicism?BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HERETICAL, NOR SATANISTICAL.>Aren’t there other Christian religions that honor Her?THE TERM «CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS» IS NONSENSICAL.THE CHURCH IS ONE.THERE IS NO RELIGION BUT CHRISTIANITY; THERE IS NO CHRISTIANITY BUT CATHOLICISM; ANYTHING ELSE IS, EITHER HERETICAL SECTS, OR PAGANICAL CULTS.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18252190A namefag AND a spazzing sperg clinging to empty aesthetical mythology. Expect nothing less from a Papist.
Historically speaking why does this always seem to work on a geopolitical angle?
>>18251357"Japanese war crimes" are CCP and GHQ propaganda
>>18251406>Unit 731Soviet propaganda.>Nanking Massacre.Chinese propaganda.
>>18251490Why should they acknowledge a false version of history that's pushed by people who hate them?
>>18251889False equivalency. Germany did commit atrocities during the war, Japan didn't
>>18252048>There was Iris Chang's Rape of NankingRidiculous book filled with lies.
>non-vegans have no argumentsIs a nonsensical statement. Statements that make objective claims about subjective qualities like the taste of meat or its ethical consumption (which depends on individual preferences) can be safely dismissed. Ethical statements that attempt to legislate morality for aesthetic reasons can be also dismissed. The only time moral legislation should be ever attempted should only be in regards to human life. Things like culinary preferences, modern art or architecture should not get the same treatment.
>>18251988>in regards to human life>>18252145>less sentient creature.>>18252124>shithole countriesAll of you odious faggots rely on the shoddiest of foundations to place your arguments upon. As >>18252146 points out, it is quite obvious that if a creature has a nervous system it can feel; whether to what degree actually holds zero relevance. Even if it did, you would have to concede, within the framework of your own arguments, that it should be legal to enslave, rape, torture, kill, then eat mentally retarded humans. Of course, there is an argument that doesn't rely on undercooked rhetoric, and its also the only one, for which I turn to >>18252146 again; the argument being, just not giving a fuck about rational consistency. You get to maintain honesty and uprightness through taking ownership of your brutal actions.And like anon, I will enjoy a tall glass of chocolate milk during Christmas. As a tall blonde white it is extremely healthy for my body and tastes delicious. And unlike you detestable retards, I do not feel the need to tell myself comforting lies that I deserve my place as rapist or the cow who's milk I took from her child as raped.
>>18252172>All of you odious faggots rely on the shoddiest of foundations…Read before you give your worthless opinion:>>18252145>Any ethical argument has to both show that an alternative is equally or even more healthy.>You are not required to forfeit your own health for the relatively short and meaningless life of a less sentient creature.ok? Do you understand?Since you are a retarded faggot, I will once again point out the argument:You are not required to forfeit your own health for another creature.Is this getting through your thick skull?If you disagree, you should kill yourself, because then you leave more to other creatures.So please, bitch, tell me once again that this argument 'relies on the shoddiest of foundations'.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18252172holy fuck it's a talking elephant
>>18252146This. People cannot be expected to make the moral choice if there is no incentive to do so. Meat is an easy to get, tasty source of nutrition today due to factory farming and people as a whole cannot be expected to give it up just because of moral nagging.If vegans really wanted this to change, they should try to change this paradigm. Lobby for taxing the shit out of the meet industry, support tax breaks for farming of meat replacement plants, lobby to legalize and give tax breaks to synthetic meat.
It's easier to take a middle approach and say we shouldn't eat mammals, given that fish can get you the same macro nutrient profile and suffer way less than mammals/birds due to simpler limbic systems.
>Hear about how repressive the Pinochet Regime was>Browse some Wiki pages>Majority of victims were Marxists and militants>Only some three thousand offically executed - hardly impressive for a two-decade regimeI don't know, guys. The idea of watching leftoids get raped by dogs is kinda based.
>>18252150My dad worked at nintendo though.
>>18252090>rich people fighting their own warsthis propaganda makes them look better than they actually are.
>>18252165they only started to fight their own wars when they lost their ill gotten richesso if you want new age of progress you must strip all rich from their riches so they actually start working again instead of collecting rent
>>18251809Pinochet was based
>>18251818Ywnbaw btw
Why is it that the English were seemingly always more interested in the occult than other Europeans? Is it because of the Celtic influences or some other cultural thing? Do you know any good books on the topic?
>>18252174Less people were convicted of witchcraft in the isles than europe even per capita. That said, anglo-saxon paganism was popular and widespread and most of its medical practices survived, along with druidic influence. Similarly to how a lot of christianity got really weird in the hinterlands, those legends survived in britain. There was rarely an urge to drive out superstition by bishops, or ay least, not effective ones. Add in their irish neighbours keeping something like a thousand years of legends in the ulster cycle by the time Christianity kocked down the door? And what was a relatively isolated set of cultures? It's not surprising they're perceived as magically interested. I suspect if you went looking you might find the Euros as interested though. If you've ever been up there it's fucking eerie in the highlands. There's also a tradition of the Cunning, who were basically discount witches as healers. Probably helped, but that's not unique in europe or britain.As for books, the Lacnunga is a medical text with a preservation of lots of charms and amulets. Bald's leechbook is mostly early medical stuff too. Witchcraft and Devil Lore in the Channel Islands is free and a funny read, I guess. Nothing directly on the phenomenon though.Now, you want good shit, try the Island of Witches by Hudrun Kristjandottir. The Icelandics were full of witches.
Would the world have been better if Germany had won World War II, or is it just Chuds lies?
>>18251947We have good reason to believe Germany would have liberalized anyway over the course of time.One reason being that pretty much all of Hitlers successors were less ideological than Hitler, such as Göring, Hess, and Dönitz, and that either of these men could have been the equivalent of Khrushchevs immediate reforms away from Stalinism.In fact, there may even have been an immediate power strugle and purge, similar to what happened upon the death of Stalin, but instead of Beria you have Himmler being purged.Generalplan Ost was discussed in the other thread, and it was essentially just an incoherent set of ideas based on whatever Hitler felt like at the moment.Also, German society was politically divided since in the last free election of 1932, the socialist parties recieved nearly 40% of the vote.These people didnt magically go away just because NSDAP became the authoritarian single-party government, and it's consolidation of public support was probably due to the war since wars have a tendency to cause the population to rally to the state.Academics were also proven to be questioning the moral legitimacy of the regime during the war itself. Germany was known since hundreds of years of producing liberal and socialist thinkers, some of the most influential were Germans.Most fascist regimes around Europe that even survived ww2, inevitably reverted back to liberal democracy because Europeans simply reject authoritarianism. It's been a gradual process since the reformation.Had Germany won the war, millions in the east would likely be killed or displaced, but you'd still most likely end up with roughly the same timeline as IRL USSR which fragmented around the 1990s. Colonists, as well as native population living in the far east could very likely form their own national identity and break away from Germany to from Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine etc, but with a different demographic than what we have today.
>>18251629based student of history
>>18250730The real question is what if the Nazis had honored their agreement with the Soviets and Stalin joined the Axis side.
>>18251589Who in 2025 wants all Russians and Ukrainians to die? Usually it's one or the other, or neither.
>>18250730>Would the world have been better if Germany had won World War IINo. Neo-Nazis are retards
Redpill me on Christians.Do Christians really believe that Jews and Israel are superior to all forms of life and everyone else exists to serve them?
Evangelicucks are blasphemers
That is mostly just heretical American evangelicals who elevate theories of their bible scholars to be equal with the Scripture.
No,Evangelicals created Israel under the impression that they were fulfilling some sort of prophecyAmerican Protees are completely excited about Judgement Day because they also believe in the RaptureAnd once the rapture happens, they no longer have any problems anymoreThey are not worshipping God. They just wanted to use his name for their selfish concerns
>>18252008>>18252020>>18252055Correct. Only NPC golems believe in an elevated status of the modern state called Israel. I see this as a sort of litmus test for the intellectual honesty and sincerity of Christians. If they believe this, then they willfully ignorant.
>>18252008Israel is the birthplace of Christ, so naturally Christians support Israel
>>18252104Oops this isn't /tv/.
>>18252104feets*
>>18252104He did nothing wrong
