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Vampussy Edition

This general is for the discussion and sharing of 2D & 3D western erotic games and visual novels, including incest and harems.

Western erotic games are welcome here with these content restrictions:
>No qos/blacked/black male
>No NTR
>No Futa
>No Gay

No images from or discussion of any games focusing on restricted content listed above.

F95 All Games (sorted by recently updated) - https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/noprefixes=22
F95 Completed Games (sorted by rating): https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/prefixes=18/sort=rating

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Having a foursome with 3 sisters is the moral thing to do
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My wife.
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>>9309991
This dev has insane priorities
>have a hot athletic sister
>oh yeah you fooled around with her in the past, ruining any taboo
>anyway now spend the rest of the game fucking this asian family
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>>9309973
I can't think of a single good game with harem ending.
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>>9309996
Well, maybe one day you will play a single weg other than BaDIK and then you might know of some examples :) Good luck in your journey newfren
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I love her so much it's unreal.
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>>9309998
name 5 good ones then
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>>9310000
No. If you had been here for longer than 1 day you would have seen at least 5 mentioned already
Lurk moar
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>>9309995
The sister has quite a few scenes though, it’s not like she’s forgotten. The threesome with her and her friend was pretty good. I just hope one day we will get the real sister 4some and 5some with the mom as well.
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>>9310012
>>9310014
>>9310017
why are you spamming thumbnails?
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>>9310019
he's spamming toenails, there's a difference
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>go to download Bare Witness now that it's completed
>check preview images
Did they rework the MC or did I just forget that he looks like a faggot?
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>>9309999
But would You love Her even if She has Huntingtons?
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>>9310032
Dropped
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>>9309991
I love how they are all different kinds of Asian, even though it makes no sense.
>>9309995
I hate when devs take shortcuts like this ruining any sort of character development. It's somehow worse than macguffins that oneshot love interests into instantly falling for the mc. Also, the way every female in that game wastes no time launching themselves at the mc in that game is ridiculous. In less than a week mc is fucking your faithful girlfriend's whole family. To be fair though, the girlfriend is shit, the athletic sister is the only one worth a damn, aside from the mc's younger sister.
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>>9310036
The girlfriend and her sisters are implied to have always had a crush on him so I can let that slide, the mom fucking him so fast is a bit far fetched though. He looks like a bit of a gigachad and is a rich as fuck celebrity so that explains why the randoms always want his dick straight away.
>the athletic sister is the only one worth a damn
I like the jealous older one as well, her sending the random weird selfies is cute
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>>9310028
>In sickness and health
I will do so till the end. I will uae my med-tech internship to pursue a medical career to find a cure for her and once she's cured, live happily ever after with her.
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>>9310043
Badik MC is such a bitch made sissy that had a full on meltdown after hearing Bellas miscarriage story

He would immediately dump Maya if she gets Huntingtons
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>>9310045
Well it's pretty clear that if anyone's getting it, it's Derek.
Also MC already knows about the possibility and he seems absolutely fine with it.
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>>9310041
>The girlfriend and her sisters are implied to have always had a crush on him
Just to be clear: It's not implied, they all straight-up keep talking about how they always liked him
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>>9310049
based anon knows that women lie so its still just implied
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>>9309991
WMAF
Except the F stands for family.
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>>9310055
kek
Any other kinos besides that and My Best Deal?
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>>9310056
Power Vacuum, mom, three sisters and a cuckold dad
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>>9310057
What do you think the A stands for, retard
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>>9310060
?
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What are the top 5 /vweg/ recommended games?
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Origin Story dev dropped another fucking essay about sharing. He should have just added it with an offhand comment and be done with it if he couldnt help himself. He would maintain at least little bit of dignity.
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>>9310075
The Tyrant
Pale Carnations
Origin Story
Raptus
Taffy Tales
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>>9310077
>I can debate the masses into changing their mind
Fetish tastes aside hes actually a fucken retard
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>>9310075
Starmaker is really good. Some weeniehutjrs here will say BADIK and IC, but those same retards also swore eternum, pale carnations and ripples were good and that was a lie.
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Lmao, you will go through your entire harem and mark each of them individually for cuckshit.
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>>9310075
Sinful Delicacies
Melody
Milfy City
Chloe 18
Lust is Strange
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>>9310080
>eternum, pale carnations and ripples were good
this is a lie
I haven't seen anyone recommend eternum or ripples
as for PC
it's a meme
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And there we have it. If you reject a girl you will be forced to watch her fuck other dudes. I knew he was bullshitting with cuckshit being avoidable.
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>>9310083
It might be one schizo, but there seemed to be a lot of anons glazing really bad HS stuff for awhile.
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>>9310081
I don't get it, from the story planning point of view, why set up the harem in the first place if you ruin it with sharing later?
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For me its GoT and HP and LotR wegs
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>>9310085
>It might be one schizo
Yes, It's the Weird Dyke Rapist Who is Obsessed with Veronica.
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>>9310086
This is called greed. So many devs think they can please the harem and the cuck crowds and they're polar opposites. One groups wants to catch them all and the other group wants them all taken away.
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>>9310086
>I have an audience now, so I can change the game into something I like more and they will be forced to come along with me
many such cases
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Apparently he is doing an interview about his love for cuckoldry.
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>>9310086
He set it up as a harem because he knows that’s what most people want, then switched because he couldn’t stand making a game without his sexual fetish in any longer, plus he already milked retards with his steam season 1 and patreon. Story has nothing to do with it.
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>>9310092
>There are interviews for wegdevs about cuckholdry.
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>>9310087
>no GoT WEG where you travel around and make the eight
Just give me something for the pain and let me die
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>>9310092
Based blogger handing this retard a shovel so he can dig his own grave further
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>>9310084
To be fair to the cuck you only get those scenes if you’re playing with cuckmode turned on
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Forcing your fetish into your work is the wegdev's privilege. I am just not sure why we must get updates whenever this cuckold posts a new screed.
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>>9310097
Funniest shit on F95 is that he is getting hate from actual supporters but is congratulated and defended by people who don't even play the game.
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Man, this entire situation is such a massive red flag. Dev seems way too obsessed with sharing for it to stay a minor story branch. I kinda like the game otherwise, and I want to keep playing it, but I really dont want to suddenly find myself playing some full-blown cuckshit 15 chapters in.
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>>9310100
Typical
>Oh you made it lame gay and brown? Well done, fight the good fight. No I still won't play it lol
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>>9310096
There is one, where you do fuck Cersei (Westerlands), Sansa (North), Dany (Crownlands?), Margaery (Reach), Melisandre (Stormlands if you consider allegiance), a brown saleswoman (squint and it's Dorne), a MILF with Riverlander sized tits. So you've already made six of the Eight.
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>>9310103
It's a "Good for you for making a game you enjoy! What? No I don't play cuck games." which makes it even funnier. People who are into vanilla games are congratulating him while refusing to play it and his paid supporters feel cheated.
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>>9310085
It's just a bait for newfags see >>9310078 recommending non-vanilla games intentionally to troll newfags.

that being said there a few retards here who unironically love characters like nicole and veronica because they're gullible morons who want to play as goody captain "save" a hoe.
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>>9310098
Sure but development time will be spent on sharing/cuck/girls fucking other dudes scenes. Instead of 2 Evelyn scenes you will get 0 Evelyn scenes because one is a swinging scene and one is her fucking some random dude to show you she is over you.
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>>9310078
Of these games only Raptus is not about being a cuck unless thats later at a point I have not reached. Go to the cuck thread you faggot.

>>9310101
>>9310107
how about not discussing the cuckshit in the non cuckshit thread?
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>>9310116
It's not cuckshit yet. It will be when the next chapter drops.
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How the fuck is this sloppa so highly rated? Last time I checked it had no content whatsoever https://f95zone.to/threads/summertime-saga-realistic-remake-v0-3-0-realbite.314378/
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>>9310123
The retards on fagzone saw "summertime saga" and vote 5 stars because they think it forgot their vote.
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>>9310123
Another flaw with the rating system is that actual feces gets higher ratings than it deserves because 99% of people don't even click/straight filter it out
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I'm about to play Secrets and Promises, what I'm in for?
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>>9310131
>dark skinned mc
dropped
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>>9310123
AI is future, very beetiful good looking bobs and vagene 5 saars out of 5
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>>9310131
Teenkino
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>>9310131
If you've ever played Max Payne, it's exactly like that with lots of sex scenes.
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>>9309913
My Cat Girl Harem
There's three cat girls and they just have tails, ears, and some cat mannerisms. There's some plot that's kinda cute about teaching them to read and wear clothes, but for the most part it's sex scenes in different combinations. The LI models are pretty sexy.. different personalities and bodies. I think it's worth checking out.

Dev added extra scenes recently, and their next one is ghost themed I think.

>>9310090
Perfectly stated

>>9310084
>safe mode
Well, glad that's there.

>>9310086
paypiggies

>>9310101
The tonal shift would make zero sense. I still don't understand why he can't just make a side game to contain them there. Power Vaccuum dev did that.
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>>9310043
>when your depth of field has no depth whatsoever
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>>9310153
>I still don't understand why he can't just make a side game to contain them there
Because he only has the one idea, and a different idea might not make any money. So he'll just risk the bird in the hand for the two in the bush.
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>>9310131
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Is he even losing money from this? My impression from the wegs I've followed over the years is that paypigs hang on come hell or high water, no matter how hard a game deteriorates. He's probably doing fine despite turning the NTR dial to 100
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>>9310164
Is this a brat?
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>>9310165
If you mean the Origin Story dev, then most likely - yes. He's been in an unsuccessful damage control since his first sharing dev update and got pretty big backlash. Right now he's trying to have the cake and eat it too and based on his recent dev log it looks like it's not working. This was a harem game and is a harem game for 1 whole season, it's not going to suddenly attract NTR whales and his harem community wants nothing to do with it. The praise he is getting is from people who don't support the game or don't even play it.
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>>9310169
>a harem game for 1 whole season
Which he sold on steam for two weeks before announcing this massive genre shift. So many people who paid for it like retards have been effectively scammed.

>The praise he is getting is from people who don't support the game or don't even play it.
This happens every time and reminds me of the trannies and faggots crying about normal games not having fat enough options or fag shit then when it got added it got praised but nobody bought it.
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>>9309979
Game? Does it have a good Vampire feeling or is it just using the aesthetic as decoration? As in mc is a vampire but does nothing vampiric except have sharp teeth.
>>9309984
The dev for this should return and make it a harem, I also actually liked the main girl but he should have known better then to limit it like that.
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>>9309995
Has the mom and angry sister gotten any content yet? I like the other girls but they have a fair amount of scenes now between them and it feels lacking to miss these last two.
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>>9310172
I was going to buy it too but due to all the new releases in that month I forgot about it. I'm very glad I didn't.
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>>9310176
>buy
lol
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>>9310173
Game is The Bite: Tyrant
Vibe is mostly V:tM with the serial numbers filed off.
Was meh when I dropped it out a couple years ago.
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>>9310131
this too

>>9310166
She does some teasing but she's always playful.

>>9310176
If you are really a buyfag then pay attention. Never buy any weg unless its DONE and I mean completely with confirmation thats the end. No sequels no spinoffs. Else you risk ending up cucked somehow. Wishlist and come back a year after the final update by then if theyre gonna fuck it up there should be signs.
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>>9310153
I like the design of those kots.
Though I have to ask,

why

do

you

make

posts

like

this?

Genuinely asking.
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>>9310177
Sometimes I like to support a dev when he makes something I enjoyed.

>>9310180
>If you are really a buyfag then pay attention.
Yeah, after OS I won't buy more weg's. He pulled a scumbag move.
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>>9310085
>daz sloppers shitting on honey select
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>>9310169
>He's been in an unsuccessful damage control since his first sharing dev update and got pretty big backlash.
Well he seems to be picking up subscribers anyway.
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>>9310181
It's called reddit spacing, he's a redditor
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>>9310178
>Vibe is mostly V:tM with the serial numbers filed off
Ironically this more often then not is a bad sign when it comes to Vampire stuff, they can never commit to a good aesthetic
>Was meh
Every vampire weg seems to be this way for some reason
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>>9310169
Dev said this was his best month on Patreon, weggers need to stop with the fallacy that wegdevs lose money after introducing controversial stuff into their game, it's pure cope
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>>9310184
Yep I fucking knew it.

For every 1 patreon subscriber with a functioning brain, there are 10 cultists who will defend anything due to sunk cost
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>>9310164
>>9310180
I'm sold.
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>>9310189
Have fun, game's top tier
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>>9310184
>>9310187
>>9310188
So then why is he constantly crying in his devlogs and giving interviews trying to explain himself?
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People drop the fucking cuck story discussion its for the other thread. The devs a cuckold fag. If you play it youre a cuck. End of line. Line ends here.

>>9310185
actually
this is reddit spacing
anyone saying otherwise is a redditfag deflecting

>>9310189
Boxed in is by the same dev, its a shorter completed game. Play that first, not a prequel/sequel but it has twins.
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>>9310191
Cuz he is a faggot.
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>>9310191
Because the words of haters on f95 who have never paid him a cent and never will still matter to him. Probably more than the paypigs, who he knows either consciously or subconsciously do not deserve respect.
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>>9310191
Because they want validation for their actions
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>>9310173
TBR is a good game but it has only few sex scenes plus you can't fuck the main girl Zoey yet
Dev got burned out so the recent updates have been very slim in content
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>>9310174
Mom has met the girlfriend (and heard the girlfriend, too).. and she's aware of MC's pushback about her parenting style. They talk more and more like partners now.. soon™. It's probably going to happen after the angry sister.. and she is starting to soften the more she's around him again.

The girlfriends mom happened after all the sisters were collected.. probably going to be the same here.

>>9310181
It's easier to read paragraphs and prevents replies to the wrong comment when quoting. Do you want me to stop separating them? It takes up too much screen for you?

>>9310185
I don't have a reddit account. Please stop being a faggot.

>>9310194
Youre dilated, tranny.
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>comment
lmao absolute fucking tourist
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>>9310043
In the thumbnail her jacket blends in with the table so it looks like you're holding up her severed head kek
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>>9310235
Ha, I see it
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What are the best WEGs with bitchy rich girls in them?
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My wife.
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>>9310237
Summertime Saga
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>>9310173
>The dev for this should return and make it a harem
he was bullied by the fanbase so much that he quit
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>>9310245
Based AF. I hate weg developers, I hope this entire space dies
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>>9309991
gamu?
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>>9310246
I don't want to go back to MOBA games. I need this space to survive.
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>>9310080
???
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>>9310248
are you retarded nigger?
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>>9310094
it actually made the story better when he was supressing it, since he came up with Ruth's better backstory.
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>>9310252
retarded yes

nigger no
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>>9310246
He tried to cuck the fanbase by not letting anyone kiss the Elf Mommy including the MC but the Fans made an incest fan patch but that made him even more mad that no one wanted no romance his OC LI character Sonny, He just rage quit after failing to convince the fanbase that Sonny was the better girl
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>>9310256
kek what a bitch
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>>9310200
>you can't fuck the main girl Zoey
well, atleast you can kiss zoey but yeah it's only a matter of time before he gets builled just like warlorx >>9310245

I hate weg devs who deliberately milk the sexual tension between main characters to prolong the time it takes before they finally have sex.
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>>9309982
good game
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>>9310034
Your loss, Ruby is the goat of sisters
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>>9310245
Thatswhy you should not have a fanbase. Drop it complete and be done.
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>>9310278
They know that they have the option of doing that. They want the attention, praise, and money of early access. But not the complaints, high expectations, and resentment that come with it.

the fat fucks will always try to have their cake and eat it too
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>>9310278
Or just don't be a mentally weak fag that lets that shit affect you. Imagine giving a shit what retards on the internet say kek
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>HIM updated
>Nobody warned me
I trusted you anons, and this is how you repay me? With negligence of my needs?
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>>9310191
Use your brain anon. He's a cuck, he gets off to feeling pathetic so he keeps bringing it back up so people yell at him some more.
Every time we make fun of him for adding cuckshit we're making him feel sexual pleasure (which is NTR)
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>>9310287
>update only is 1.5 gb
It's so big.....
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>>9310191
He enjoys attention
Anon do I really need to say it? Why make 20 dev blogs on the same topic to act the victim and justify himself? Because he enjoys being the center of a controversy.
An actual drama queen.
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>>9310287
We were waiting for you to tell us, thanks btw
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>>9310290
Not being able to molest my royalwife for like 3 or 4 updates now is getting on my last nerve.
Have we been able to sex down the elf girl, or whatever short haired enemy/ally that's been following us around since day 1? Being cock blocked from the princess and not being able to correctively rape the regent has me raging too much to remember the details.
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>>9310287
feet status?
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>>9310287
>futa/trans
>no incest
>sandbox
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>>9310301
>futa/trans
It's optional
There's a character and the game lets you pick if she is a normal girl or a futa.
>sandbox
The dev thankfully dropped it, there's like 15 minutes of sandbox content in total.
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>>9310256
>OC LI character Sonny
Should have made a weg based on the flash game from like 2008. Would have been cool.
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>Free Cities Origins updated out of nowhere after like a million years
So, that happened.
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I don't see why people get mad at cuckshit being posted here but not incest when mother fucking is both not vanilla and inherently cuckshit.

>>9310151
is there bullet time for your cum shot?
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>>9310287
what's HIM
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>>9310317
HIM is HIM
It doesn't stand for anything, the game's name is HIM
>>9310299
Becca is simply very molestable
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>>9310315
Go back 2 reddit
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>>9310315
This thread is named vanilla just as a distinction from the other, it's not a vanilla thread, its simply a no cuckshit no gay/futa no blacks thread
Rape is allowed, incest is allowed, bdsm is allowed
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>>9310315
Do you not get tired of making the same 'Erm akshually this is not vanilla because XYZ' post every week?
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>My HIM saves are fucking gone
What the FUCK
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>>9310347
check the AppData\Roaming\RenPy folder for the game if he changed it then you need to manually copy the saves over
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>>9310349
No, from there too, I only have my saves from the first act.
I guess its time to abuse the skip function.
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>>9310224
Look, illiterate virgin is here
>look he speaks English what a tourist
ook ook saar mom scene saar

>>9310329
Don't worry they aren't breeding, soon enough the thread will be clear of them
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>>9310324
I have never used that website once in my entire life

>>9310325
>its simply a no cuckshit
but momcest is cuckshit. it's literally fucking a married woman.
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>>9310377
You fucking another mans wife is not cuckshit, its cuck-kino, because some npc is the cuck and you are the chad.
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>>9310377
>taking someone else's wife is the same as getting cucked
This isn't real life retard
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>responding to the cuck spammer
Stop being retarded you dumb faggots.
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>>9310350
Abandoned...
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>>9310351
>I guess its time to abuse the skip function.
You are going to be so fucking pissed off when you run into the timed dungeon sandbox.
Almost as pissed off as I am if I don't get me some princess bullying in.
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>>9310417
>timed dungeon sandbox
TIMED WHAT?
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>>9310417
There's a setting to skip it
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>>9310438
It makes you take a shortcut or something through a sewer/dungeon where you only have x number of moves before a failure state. So, timed in a turn-based basis.
I swear it gives you one of those twice, but can't recall if that's true or not.
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stop responding to the fucking troll, this faggot had spammed the same shit over and over trying to change the definition of vanilla and you fuckers keep feeding him
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>>9310490
It's a meme you fucking retard
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I remember someone talking about a decent 2D game a week or two ago, but I can't remember if it is Love & Sex Second Base or the Red String one

anyone remember
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>>9310495
another chance
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>>9310495
Ignore the fag anothe chance is garbage. Just go look through the threads.
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>>9310026
Faulty memory is NTR
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>>9310123
>>9310124
It's more likely that the votes are so high because it's the people who constantly seethe in the main Summertime Saga thread because of the current updates.
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>>9310287
I'll give it a shot, if I don't like it you will be the first to know.
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>>9310387
It's still NTR. Also shows you have the morality of liking cuck stuff, because you clearly do get a kick out of the humiliation of the husband. Not long and you want to be the one humiliated.
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>>9310490
>says the guy insisting that fucking your mom and cucking your dad is vanilla
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if it's so vanilla then do it in real life (you won't)
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Having sex is NTR
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Another man committing the thought-crime of having sex with your waifu in his mind is NTR, therefore not covering your waifu from head-to-toe and allowing another man to see her in the first place is also NTR.
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Am I going to have to NTR the NTRposters by filtering all NTR posts?
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Me evading the filters thereby literally cucking filterkeks and committing NTR
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What's the most wholesome, stupidly romantic pure harem weg? Strictly NO drama allowed.
Last time I asked this I played Cosy Cafe which was great
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>>9310642
Life with Mary is pretty wholesome romantic.
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>>9310644
>no harem
Try again with slightly more reading comprehension
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>>9310642
The Nature of Magic
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>>9310645
Harems aren't romantic, you stupid nigger. The women are always in a competition.
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>>9310649
Are you saying that harems are... NTR?
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Skintone of a bloated corpse
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>>9310649
shut up
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>>9310617
You are getting NTR'd out of thread content by filtering
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lust harem update lets you get reverse gangbanged by pregnant gobbos
i know some of you sickos are into that
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>harem route? no thanks, I only play games where I have to CTRL through the entire thing again to see 4 more sex scenes for the other gobbo
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>>9310642
What a legend is wholesome but there is drama just not between you and waifus
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>>9310665
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>>9310678
It was implied the game should have more than 2 sex scenes before being abandoned
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>>9310680
That what you heard? The game has more content and more girls than for example this >>9310651 "completed" piece of shit.
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>>9310681
ok 2dcuck
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>>9310687
Arguing in bad faith means you don't need wholesome and romantic games at all - you won't be able to appreciate them. Don't waste your time.
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>>9310693
Fucking 3 girls is not a harem unless they interact. And no "we're gonna add it once we're done scamming" does not make it a harem. No more (you)s
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>>9310675
gallery mod senpai
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>>9310695
inb4
>this doesn't count because I said so
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>harem route? no thanks, I only play games where I can go through the entire thing getting sex scenes for only one gobbo then I drop the game after one playthrough
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>>9309961
>Throuple is not a harem. 4-5 is a harem.
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Don't let the ModernWarfareNeusfag hear you say that.
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>>9310287
Nice, was wondering when this would get updated
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>>9310705
why is his cock a bamboo shoot
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>>9310723
It's NTR, that's why.
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>>9310723
Look closer. He is fucking the bottom one not the top one.
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Is the Justice or Mercy game any good? I saw you guys post about it. Renders look good, what about the story?
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>>9310726
It's a harem game, renders are fine and there are a bunch of girls and a lot of scenes. The story is there to get you from scene to scene.
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having sex for any other purpose other than procreation is NTR
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>>9310726
soulless gook
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having sex with women is NTR
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>>9310742
What if they have a feminine penis?
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>>9310726
MC returns after years away to reclaim whats his and fuck bitches.
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>>9310732
An then havea baby sucking on your woman's boobs ? NTR
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>>9310729
>>9310761
What's better, the love path or domination path? I assume it's just good/bad, like Paragon/Renegade in Mass Effect?
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>>9310780
well that's the secret isn't it? you have to try and knock her up but fail
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>>9310782
I've done both. The choice really just decided if you're nice or a dick and if you or the girls are in control. The redhead sister/the big titty neighbour are the only ones I can remember it mattering for. You can pick per girl but ou get locked in after so I just do two completely dedicated saves.
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>>9310782
Always love except when it leads to femdom
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>>9310804
Thanks. So I guess I'll do love for my first run.

>>9310809
How do I know if it's femdom? The game said that even with Love I could get femdom.
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>>9310820
>"don't take love if it leads to femdom"
>game said even with love I could get femdom
ok dude
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>>9310820
Love is the choice that gets you femdom as said >>9310804.
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>>9310824
>>9310834
Oh I misunderstood, though the problem still stands. How would I know when I'm about to get femdom and why is it bad? Are the scenes worse or something?
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>>9310843
Because it's gay and just rollback
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>>9310649
>retard

>>9310658
let him go, he belongs on the other thread.. they are obsessed

>>9310705
dildos are ntr apparently

>>9310742
not talking about dicks is ntr

>>9310780
making babies is ntr

>>9310804
choices in wegs are ntr because the photons going into your eyes could be the alternate route and that could be ntr hence ntr
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>>9310843
No its just an alternate sex scene. You get given the choice of which to pick.

>>9310845
>retarded ntr shit
fuck off and die im sick of you faggots
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Damn didn't even know that /ourguy/ from Solvalley made another weg
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>>9310850
it got abandoned right at the end which is gay and cringe
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>>9310844
It's fine as long as I don't get fucked in the ass or if the writing is shit.

>>9310846
Oh, that's good, thanks anon.
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>>9310846
learn to identify sarcasm please
>fucking off is ntr
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I'm exclusive with Jaye. Is a foot massage considered cheating? Zoomers that don't get the reference need not reply.
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Posting in this thread means you support NTR.
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>>9310866
>immediately seething that someone might not get his poorly worded reference
Neato
In Young Again, the daughter of the mafia boss goes "what, you really think he'd hit Lucas just for talking to me?"
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>>9310866
is this MC supposed to be 15 or 48 I can't tell
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>>9310872
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>>9310885
out of 10!
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>>9310896
if I look that good by the time I'm 48 then it's ntr
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>>9310866
Why do people play with URM, what's the point?
Guides I get but why URM?
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>>9310178
>>9310200
>>9310267
I played through a fair amount of it, I quite enjoyed it. I am biased because of being a fan of Vamp stuff but the story was good and the characters and setting kept me interested and invested, big fan of the Duke, Carver and Emilia is best girl. Wasn't a massive fan of the way the mc looked or how he acted, it's the typical unserious not-funny-but-tries-to-be mc who wants to both be the jokester and be taken seriously. It's regular weg stuff but I've never found it particularly enticing. He doesn't really look, sound or feel like a vampire which does make sense from the fish out of water perspective but simply lowers the aesthetic for me. There is also some stuff which feels inconsistent like it becoming a sandbox past a certain point but also the quests remain linear, you have an inventory system which feels unnecessary as well. It's like the dev isn't certain what he wants to make here. I still enjoyed the story though, and I didn't get annoyed by the scarcity of scenes even if I did think there were times when it could have definitely done with one. I will say though, like with the uncertain direction of gameplay, you get moments where you think you can choose between a "love" route for a girl or a "domination" route but it never goes anywhere and nothing apparently changes - for example I choose to mind control the nervous college girl rather then try to learn more about her naturally and the only thing that changed was I drank her blood. Later in the game you tell her literally everything about vampires in a public café which was just straight up dumb. It could do with the dev going over it with a chapter style remake but it's fine as it stands. A karma/humanity system would be good though, if anyone should be able to be a predatory pervert it should be a vampire. I also want to fuck the werebast.
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>>9310899
Just a habit at this point. Mostly for cheating, but sometimes there are interesting details in the code or variables. Sometimes even easter eggs - Bare Witness is full of them, for example.
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>>9310899
It's nice to see the name of a variable or the name of the scene call if there's no walkthrough.. or it only says recommended or +1 to a variable if there is one. You can use urm to see all the conditionals, plus it also let's you play the scene choices without needing to rollback or save. You can also see when a render is being called by a path if pathing notifications are on. Let's you know there might be different text or a render change based on an earlier choice.
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>>9310905
takes the fun out if you ask me
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>>9310845
>choices in wegs are ntr because the photons going into your eyes could be the alternate route and that could be ntr hence ntr
Truth nuke
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>>9310902
>>9310905
So while you play and immerse yourself in a game you constantly check what gives you +1 and what not? Most games have mods for that, many games even have integrated walkthroughs. I get doing that for a game like BaDIK or if you want to see a scene without playing the route but URM seems overkill to use all the time.
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>>9310910
I do a blind playthrough save if it isn't a harem, but I'll use it when I want to be efficiently thorough. I turned path notes off because the upper left thing screws up screenshots. I like WTs like The Visit that customize based on the route you want to play, but sometimes I like the blind choices. Others I like to read the story per LI. URM augment it.
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>>9310915
Oh not quite, I mean to say if there's a walkthrough that is not as verbose as I'd like (fuck I miss Sancho), I can infer from variable names with URM if I'm going to end up on a path that wasn't clear (I avoid femdom if I can help it, it just doesn't turn me on being held like a baby thankfully). It's there to augment but I don't need to check it every time. I depend on it for wegs with no WTs for sure though.
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>>9310915
There is a degree of immersion breaking, you're right, but I don't check it often, most of the time only in the beginning while familiarizing myself with mechanics and deciding on routes, after that it just hangs in the background and isn't a bother.
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>>9310922
Your waifu doesn't even love you bro, what're you doing?
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>>9310918
>the upper left thing screws up screenshots
Why would you want to take screenshots with the interface on? H+S is a like muscle memory for me, purely automatic.
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>>9310923
She does, she just doesnt want to ruin her "scheming murderwife" aesthetics.
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>>9310894
I always thought Jaye was way too tanned for a ginge, it just looks wrong
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>>9310923
She is clearly trying hard to pretend she doesn't.
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>>9310920
MurrayMods is making great walkthrough/see all scene mods.
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>>9310926
Looks wrong to me too. Sometimes she just looks deeply tanned, but why make a green eyed redhead deeply tanned, and sometimes she just looks unpleasantly brown. It's probably just the fault of the game's lighting and devs' incompetence, see >>9309928 and >>9310653 as another example - yes, that's supposed to be the same character.
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>>9310924
Later on I realized that if I turned global path notifications off in settings, it stopped fucking up capturing during scenes and only popped up during choices so I haven't had a problem since. Also, I put H + S on one of the two extra mouse buttons (the other presses space 10x quickly which is great when devs break saves and you want to catch back up fast).
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>>9310928
Yeah I use their's and I check out koga's website, and there are people updating shawn's and some of the older ones like lunarmist and lain. I use URM with some of them anyhow. But FUCK i miss Sancho. I loved seeing every single wrinkle of the plot.
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>>9310899
>>9310902
>>9310905
>>9310918
>>9310920
>>9310921
How do you even use URM, you put in the file, you open in with alt+M and then what? Doesn't seem like I can do anything or change anything. Do I need anything else?
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>>9310955
this isn't f95 dipshit, figure it out yourself
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>>9310955
You need to search for variables you want to check or change. You can also turn on choices notifications and check what variable are affected by which choice. You can also force scenes from different branches if you dont meet the requirements for them(this one was really useful before bugfixes on last Elmwood update).
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>>9310957
>this isn't f95
Yes it is
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>>9310965
kill yourself
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>>9310967
The recent IC gossipping was the closest this general came to F95.
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>>9310972
>not all the BaDIK gossiping
I'm noooooooticing
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how to get mom scene
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>>9310965
Thanks anon.

>>9310957
>this isn't f95 dipshit
>>9310967
>Yes it is
So which is it?
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>>9310926
100%, the overbearing tan ruins her character design for me. She would've been one of the top tier gobbos maybe ever if she just had normal white skin. but as it is, she's just alright
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>>9310979
What are the top 5 gobbos ever made? Also the issue is that her tan makes her look like a fake redhead
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>>9310980
Theyre all in such a sharp pain, the daughters
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>>9310980
1. Neus
2. Neus2
3. Neus3
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Who killed the captcha?
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>>9310969
Rude.
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>>9310980
4/5 of them are here, the fifth is nearby larping
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The Assistant has the most rushed ending in history, it's like he ran out of ideas for writing, threw in 5 sex scenes in the last update and then 10 minutes of "thrilling" action scenes to end his cliche crime plot
I kinda respect it
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>>9310997
Aren't most harem endings pretty shit?
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Why does everyone in By Justice or Mercy talk with their eyes closed?
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lewdcorner went error 502 the very moment I made an account.
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>>9311004
anime
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>>9310900
>big fan of the Duke, Carver and Emilia is best girl.
really nigga?
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>>9311013
I hope they don't drive cars.
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>>9311004
>>9311021
anon theyre just asian

>>9311007
so I guess you are the one responsible for this too? >>9310992
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>>9310980
top 5 rehead gobbos?
amelie - heart problems
veronica - race of life
veronica - pale carnations
kathy - being a dik
jaye - chasing sunsets
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>>9311004
Forget the eyes, why is her skin orange
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>>9311028
anime
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>>9311022
>anon theyre just asian
Are you sure about that?

>>9311028
Her liver is failing because she's old?
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>>9311031
he caught it from fucking the asians

>>9311028
shes just like that some people are weird like that
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>>9311018
It's a Vampire game, of course I am going to side with the Romanian noble and his goth daughter. Also their mansion is awesome in the literal sense of the word and Carver is a cool ww1 vet and I'm a nerd for that era. I don't trust any of them of course but I like their style. I can unironically fix Emilia
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>>9310237
The Bare Witness one is kinda fun. She’s not really that bitchy though.
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>>9311046
Zenda is not bitchy at all, she's the type that looks at you with a warm smile and hires a hit squad to protect you.
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>>9310615
Waifuing a character made by another man is ntr. It’s also gay because you’re mindfucking the product of another man’s man. You are all gay cucks, lower even than the common OP.
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>>9310687
You really had to hurt me like this just to get back at the other anon?
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>>9311051
Yeah...well...your mum is fat
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>>9310723
The blonde made a wood dildo in the shape of your cock so you could fuck them both.
However, a dead tree is stealing the identity of your dick, which we all know is, of course, classic NTR.
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Just fuck both of them with your regular dick
I don't give a fuck about this overly forced joke but a dildo doesn't make the scene hotter in any way, which is the bigger sin
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>>9310687
>planned content: footjob
Dropped
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>>9310687
>barefoot, calloused shepherdess footjob
Picked up
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>>9311058
>>9311062
That game is never getting finished.
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>>9310853
I didn't give up on that game. I'm going to makethe epilogue with the "mom" character, which will be the usual weg cliché (each event will be a little more daring, all the way up to sex). Then I'll finally finish it, and after that I'll start a new project using Honey Select 2.
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>the one cuck's crashout over OS
>keeps trying to force 'everything is NTR!!!"
jesus how sad
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>>9311068
>I didn't give up on that game.
if its not complete its abandoned
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What's the "uwu" or "P6" Section on lewdcorner about?
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>>9310687
>have to go through finger, assjob, handjob, blowjob, footjob just to get one real sex scene
dropped
>sleep
I don't bloody think patreon allows it
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403 forbidden angie?
im scared bros
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How the fuck is Pinkcuck so incompetent that he can't even put BADIK soundtrack onto Spotify?
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>>9310900
>like it becoming a sandbox past a certain point but also the quests remain linear
>for example I choose to mind control the nervous college girl rather then try to learn more about her naturally
Yeah
The Sandbox shit and focusing on unpopular side characters like Claire and the stripper nearly killed the game twice
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>>9311076
dont know and nothing

>>9311078
the cuckfag who bumps other threads has reached new heights and did it
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>>9311079
No way that's worth the headache of dealing with permission/rights/revenue share for all the people he's taken tracks from. Some of the music in the game for example isn't even publicly available.
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>>9310687
bodied that freak
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>>9310687
fucking gottem
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>>9310687
fuckin missedem
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same fag
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>>9311137
bodied that freak
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different straight
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>>9311139
bodied that freak
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>>9309454
it was the Thornmail Warplate Hero i just saw it
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>>9310980
the hottest gobbo is pepper from desert stalker. it's a shame she only has like 1 scene. is her model used in any other games?
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>>9311197
post an image of her, if you got a normally lit pic with her facing the camera directly it would be better but you should really just ask in the daz thread on 3
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>>9311197
ignore that I went to check what she looked like and twisted your question into "anyone know the model"
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>>9311108
It was on Spotify and then got progressively taken down, but if he's selling the game on Steam, he's not small enough to be flying under the radar about copyright and such. Spotify handles the copyright and revenue split. I'm mostly just pissed that You're Easy To Love isn't on Spotify at all, despite the original artist being credited and still it was taken down
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Gucci Like 007 my beloved.
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>>9310287
>>9310591
okay finally caught up. it was good.
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>>9311081
I wouldn't mind the sandbox so much if it had started like that from the beginning, I can at least see what he is going for with the hospital setup being similar vtmb, but going from vn to that made the switchover feel weird and unwieldy. It's not a dealbreaker for me, even if I prefer how it was, but I'll have to see where the dev goes with it. I do like the writing for the most part though so that carries it.
>Claire
I actually really liked her initial setup as a kind but naïve and hopelessly romantic psychology student, doubly so with the implication that you can either love her as a man or rule her as a vampire, but out of nowhere I am telling her everything about the vampire world whilst also saying "no you can't come to the sanatorium because it's dangerous". It's just so inconsistent, I have just signed her death warrant by telling her everything that could get her executed. Her deflowering was a good scene, as was the leadup, but I think the dev could do with some more adventurism in this department i.e. have you using your powers to manipulate her or even brainwash her as an option for a "evil" playthrough whilst still offering the "good" love route. Zoey's cool and her story should probably remain straight-laced but corrupting humans is always expected in vampire stories.
>stripper
Jenny or Ciara? They were fine personally, it fits with that clan's ideas and aesthetic. I don't remember their story dragging or anything, though Ciara did seem to keep popping up but that wasn't a problem for me. I still want to get my teeth sunk into Shevaugn, more so if she really is a witch or pagan with special protection.
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DPC posted his yearly Q&A and basically confirmed that most of the girls will get their own ending.
>I believe I have explained my view on the game before. I look at the game as a tree. It starts at the ground, and each episode moves you further up along it. You'll encounter branches along the way, some bigger than others, and when you reach high enough, the tree crown is formed where branches take off in different directions. And that's where the game is now. We're nearing the end of it, and it's time to indulge in all those different branches and head in different directions. It's a challenge, but one I've been waiting for. What players feel about that approach doesn't worry me; it's what I want the game to become. And I don't see it as neglecting any original route; they're still there and heading in different directions too. I see it as expanding the game and the overall experience, and making choices truly matter.
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>>9311440
>Now, a few extra roads have formed, namely Quinn and Zoey's roads. While their relationship with the MC feels fresh compared to the main girls' relationships, I felt it was better to use the same nomenclature across the board. I've also seen speculation about what the pictures at the end of the episode, in the save transfer interface, really mean, and whether they also indicate a road or a branch. All I'll say is, you'll have to see.
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>>9311441
Others road ends in Cathy's relationship confirmed
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>>9311444
So do you.
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Thoughts on loving and gentle femdom?
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Looks like that anon was right about the dev shilling his game.
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>>9311450
Femdom is such shit.
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>>9311450
baste
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>>9311451
duh
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What's your favorite game?
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>>9311475
mine
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>>9311475
Summer Heat
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Redditors are seething at pinkGOD again
>By all accounts the guy is an egotistical tool. If people speak out against anything on his channel he bans them. Can’t take any form of criticism
>"He doesn’t do lazy writing" remember ? I've been on his server for two years now. From what I have seen he dismissed every possible critics by claiming that people either had their own personal preference or didn't truly understand the characters ( basically the same excuse than OceanLab with Summer's Gone ). Which means that every possible negative or discutable points will never be justified to his eyes since he can use this joker card ( it's just not what people were hoping for lol ) for every single points.
>The dudes a dick
>Yes, indeed. DPC is known for being an egomaniac incapable of receiving any form of criticism, even daring to say that he "doesn't do lazy writing". If you dare to criticize him, he will send his loyal dogs, I mean mods, to ban you from D.iscord or Patreon.
>"Respectfully, I don't care what fans like/dislike; I'm adding the content I want to see in the game" - Dr PinkCake
>Some of his responses...jesus.
>He will care once he earns no money with it, and at the moment money he earns
>The arrogance is absolutely astounding, as good as he is at writing he is so unfathomably closed minded
>Kinda confirmed everything I feared. DPC is indeed proud of all the ways he screwed over the paths of many player and the slutshaming drink game was indeed meant to be judgemental. Punishing players for enjoying content he himself put in the game.
>Jeez he comes across as an entitled arrogant prick.
>Holy Broccoli this guy is insufferable.
>I said before, I will say it again, the game is great, but the real DIK was DPC all along.
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>>9311475
GTA 6
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>>9311482
>t. Pinkcuck
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how can one dev be so based?
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all devs are cringe (adac)
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>>9311482
go back
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>>9311478
Kek
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>pregnancy confirmed for badik season 4
Huge day for the unemployed
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>>9311197
Her and her sister are really great.
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>>9311541
dick too big
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>>9311538
No fucking shit she pulls out a pregnancy test on screen
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>>9311541
Bro this game fell off so fucking hard man
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>>9311538
>I finally get my wife pregnant
Hooooooly
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>>9311542
he's part African
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>>9311552
nah you just fuck the already pregnant chick
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>The instance I believe you're talking about (because only one would trigger what you describe) is being too promiscuous while dating Jill, which has a negative outcome.
>Let's reverse the roles: how would you feel if she had sex with 9 different guys during all those nice scenes you shared together? I think (and hope) the most common answer to that would be that you'd feel betrayed.
Holy based
Pinkcake BTFO harem cucks for all eternity
Harem shit = ntr confirmed
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>>9311596
>>Let's reverse the roles: how would you feel if she had sex with 9 different guys during all those nice scenes you shared together? I think (and hope) the most common answer to that would be that you'd feel betrayed.
This is literally Rio's, Cammy's and Sarah's path. Even during Halloween Rio is texting her jock fuck buddy.
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kind strangers, redpill me on the null hypothesis
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>>9311475
easy answer
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>>9310980
The hottest gobbos are not in WEGs at all. They are totally unmodified characters from the Daz store from before every single asset maker came down with dementia. WEG devs don't use them because they also all have dementia.
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>>9311600
I like it
Would I recommend it?
Not at its current state
Might be because I have high standards when it comes to providing recommendations
You are allowed to date multiple women at the game's current state, but there have been no threesome scenes so far

I also have a personal gripe that X-23/Laura is supposed to be really short but the artwork does not reflect that properly
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>>9311602
based
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>>9311600
Artstyle is polarizing, people either love it or hate it. You are all but forced into having a harem with the sex scenes locked behind story events iirc and you're not banging the entire school in two days like in Rouge-Like.
Chapter 2 was supposed to be out in January but is now TBA. F95 isn't even bothering to ask about progress updates anymore.
They're looking for a second artist because they would like to include gay content with Nightcrawler but their current artist refuses to draw that.
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>>9310980
that is subjective to everyone
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>>9311538
PinkGOD going to let me pump and dump nicole and turn her into a single mother of two?
Zased
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>>9311450
what's going on with her ear rings?
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>>9311602
What game?
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>>9311598
Eh, we know they are whores but Jill is a good girl.
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>>9311607
>current artist refuses to draw that
based artfag refusing an actual fag

>>9311616
Please do not respond to the dev self shilling. Much like actual animals interacting with them should be kept to a minimum.

>>9311619
anon has yet to give his murderhebe game a name
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>>9311608
I like the gobbo on the right, she looks unique.
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>>9311622
She literally tried to mount Bianca on my dick.
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>>9311627
She is too nice for her own good, she probably cant even fathom Bianca making move on you or vice versa.
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>>9311623
>anon has yet to give his murderhebe game a name
Hope he makes a game out of it.
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>>9310980
Linda
Caroline
Aunt Haley
That GILF from TGNO
Cass
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>>9311626
Fun fact: she is stock out of the store.
I struggled with different hairs though until I settled on the one you quoted.
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>>9311608
Left reminds me of Dewey.
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>>9311657
No clue who that is.
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>>9311626
https://www.daz3d.com/cinnabar
both from this dude
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>>9311475
how many redhead gobbos does this game have ?
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>>9311662
Such a revelation! That was pointed out weeks ago, but he has good models. Along with Mousso. Hard to beat that guy.
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>>9311662
Well, they are still unique to me since I never seen them before. I hope anon releases his murderhebe weg as /vweg/ exclusive, it looks too based for fag95.
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>>9311670
>it looks too based for fag95.
Yeah, more and more by the day. Will probably be a hag and black site in no time.
And HS, that seems to always work there.
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>>9311665
I know faggot but not everyone does

>>9311670
he said he might in a recent thread
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>>9311676
>I know faggot but not everyone does
Come on, the Dik-craze has died down. We are among ourselves again.

So as disclosure, CNB, CNB, MSO in that pic.
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>>9311662
>Gen9
Anon, yoou are dead to me.
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>>9311682
Whats the lore behind Dallas having a red uniform?
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>>9311687
Means she's a boy.
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>>9311692
Now thats just silly anon, boys dont wear skirts...
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>>9311687
probably in a different grade
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>>9311687
She's Head Girl.
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>>9311687
colour indicates ovulation status
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>>9311687
>>9311694
Exactly that.
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>>9311664
Unfortunately only her but it's worth it. Actually worth it. Race of Life.
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>>9311696
Any weg where you fuck a gobbo on her period, with copious amounts of blood? Not gonna play it, cause blood is like one of the top turn-offs for me
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>>9311440
weggers love to talk about branching routes but how cum none of them have ever made a game with as much branching as some of these h games?
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>>9311600
it's supposed to be a better version of rogue-like but it doesn't actually fix any of the problems that rogue-like had other than it being too easy to fuck the girls, in which case it goes fully in the opposite direction and makes it take forever. it's also made by the weird kind of lefty cucks that think you need to ask a girl's permission to kiss her.
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What's the absolute best harem game?
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>>9311703
Parental Love
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>>9311703
Motherless.
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>>9311699
Not even sure any include period sex. I havent seeny any so far.

>>9311703
MWNeus of course
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>>9311700
Sorry I don't speak subhuman
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>>9311706
You are kinda wrong and aren't at the same.
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>>9311706
>MWNeus of course
>>9311708
I meant that
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>>9311708
When will you release your game? You are making a game.
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>>9311710
well damn another mentally ill dev such a shame
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>>9311700
Thefuck thought I was looking at a nested host xD
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>>9311731
XDDD
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>>9311700
Assuming thats some japanese thing they are done by a whole team of people who can cooridnate to get it done in a year while wegs are usually done by a single person, teams arent common.

Jap games are also based on sprites which can be reused across the whole game while wegs are almost all fully rendered. This >>9311605 would be easuer to make major routes for.

Lots of effort with little reason to think it would work.
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>>9311736
I think it's literally just NLT

Other teams exist of course, but they're all so glacially slow they may as well be solo devs. No productivity to be found there
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>>9311703
Being a DIK
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>>9311703
proud father
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>>9311764
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>>9311703
There isn't one.
>safe answer
Eternum or Desert Stalker or Ripples

I like Stray Succubus, By Justice Or Mercy, Elmwood University, The Nature of Magic, Origin Story and a few others.

We're spoiled with abandoned and unfinished gems.

inb4 the chaste brigade
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>How does it feel...this need to fap? What do (You) call it?
My Dork Janitor.
>(You) make it sound like you're obsessed or something.
That's how it feels sometimes.
>So how does it feel?
It starts with cum.
>Cum?
Yeah, the .PNG of it. Trickling down the back of her big ass. The trickle becomes a stream and then a flood. It fills her up...all her empty spaces. But then the cum isn't white anymore.
>What is it?
It's Black. And stressful. It feels like my meatus is gonna explode. The only way to relieve the stress is to open the floodgates and let it shill out.
>I can't believe you're like this. You're a sick cuck, Anon. Jesus Christ.
Well, maybe we shouldn't post about it.
>Yeah, maybe not while I'm vibing fucking spaghetti code.

>Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan, "Dexter"
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>>9311538
Bella Chads.....
TRVST THE PLAN
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>>9311777
any threesomes like this where you and some bitch with a strap on dp a girl?
inb4 that's ntr or whatev
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>>9311700
What is this supposed to be from?
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>>9311627
There's no way there won't be a threesome with them later on, people fucking Bianca now are ruining a good thing by being too hasty.
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>>9311997
I rather get Bianca than a threesome with Bianca and then solo Jill. No throuple will happen anyway. Same with Bella.
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>>9311997
groping and pounding bianca behind jill's back is way hotter than an above the board 3some
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>>9311799
>Stray Incubus
When I saw this get abandoned, I was really upset. The game had the perfect pacing of story mixed with lewd events, and the girls were all hot too. Then I saw a new dev was taking over and was excited. And once I played the new update from them, my excitement faded very quickly. You can definitely tell someone else was writing the story and doing the lewd scenes. And now it's been 1year+ since then.
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>>9311736
that was from school days, but here is a flowchart from a game made by only 2 people.

> wegs are almost all fully rendered.
I also have wondered by wegs waste so much time on completely pointless renders of shit like characters opening the door or answering the phone. you could probably cut down rendering time by 70% if you only made unique images for sex scenes and just slapped reusable sprites on reusable backgrounds for everything else.
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>>9312118
As an excuse to drag out development time retard. Or did you really think it takes 15 years to make a visual novel
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This is a 12 hour old corpse. I seriously don't understand, how can a game with production qualities as high as Chasing Sunsets can get something so trivial as skin tones so very wrong? Don't they have, I don't know, visual artists, colorists?
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>>9311598
You mean Alex? I don't think he's her "fuck buddy" she just knows him and probably did something with him in the past, sorta like Sarah and Melanie who also know him and the rest of the jocks. If anything Alex is one of the unknowns who pay for Quinn's girls. Not saying Riona isn't a whore though by any means, there's at least 5-6 dudes she's been with based on dialogue and background stuff, including Prof. Burke.
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>>9311596
how fucking based can one dev be
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>>9312127
if I stopped playing every weg that made me think "how could someone look at this and think it looks ok?" I would not be playing a single weg.
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>>9312094
All the incubus spell effects being missing in the "new" continuance and the lack of polish to the model posing (new model makeovers are hit/miss) made me really, really sad about it. Reading it before it was abandoned was awesome. The sparring and action is great but the girls all smolder and the scenes were unbelievable, especially for HS.. so much attention to detail.
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>>9312127
devs cannot into shaders, just look at even bella in badik in anything that isn't bright lighting and suddenly her entire skin color is different because of how high the default translucency value is for her skin shader
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>>9312094
Dev had to abandon the game due to legal troubles, but he is making a new one
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>>9312127
That's one of the reasons I dropped this game.
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>>9312127
This shit is still going? Thought it [Completed] years ago
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>>9311068
> Honey Select 2
Hm. Was hoping you'd go back to HS1 since your character designs are so good. I don't like HS2 at all but if there's anyone who can pull it off it's you.
Honeymoon island is good but not enough to make it stand out in such a crowded market.
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>>9312219
*pinch* actually do any wegs have you grabbing somebody being bratty by the tongue?
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>>9312189
yeah
bella looks as brown as a jeeta
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That look of disgust at having to be close to and breathe the same air as a filthy halfbreed abomination
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>>9312202
It’s completed, but we still get people playing it for the first time every now and again, probably for that reason
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>>9312248
wat gaem
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>>9312249
Scenes with my Mother
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>>9312249
Chasing Sunsets
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>>9312231
I feel the same way when I have to be close to and post in the same thread as a filthy gobbo abomination
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>>9311068
how to get mom scene
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>>9310438
its super easy to navigate and you can literally scroll back to cheat it too but even with all of that....you can enable skip minigames to skip doing that shit, its nice to have a skip the bullshit button that actually skips the bullshit and makes replays doable, imagine if you could skip all the wierd tests and auto complete the freeroam in badik on your extra runs
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>>9310495
LoSe is pretty good if you like grinding, do note that if you try dating the slutty goth roommate and dont do it proper you will get cucked. theres also pretty easily avoidable ntr content.

notable 2d games i remember liking was
>her last piece
yandere demon queen enslaves u
>Five of a kind
80's wincest game
>Null hypothesis
xmen porn game
>stellar dream
fuckin aliens and wincest game
>court magician
You play as a fat ugly bastard
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>>9312189
To be fair the surface settings in Daz are nearly impenetrable. I see shit like Dual Lobe Refractivity Roughness and have no fucking clue what it's supposed to mean. Why do we need four different kinds of specularity and why does nothing change if I set one of them from 0.0 to 1.0?
Also
>I don't know, visual artists, colorists?
Dude these are slavics eking out a living, not AAA studios.
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>>9312274
if you understand the concept of dual lobe as it applies to shaders, refractivity, and roughness then you can understand what dual lobe refractivity roughness is
>Why do we need four different kinds of specularity and why does nothing change if I set one of them from 0.0 to 1.0?
not all surface properties in a shader will have obviously visible effects under most direct lighting
>Also
>>I don't know, visual artists, colorists?
>Dude these are slavics eking out a living, not AAA studios.
I'm just going to assume you forgot to quote someone else with this last bit because I didn't say anything about visual artists or colorists and I don't think dpc is slavic
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>>9312279
>if you understand the concept of dual lobe as it applies to shaders, refractivity, and roughness then you can understand what dual lobe refractivity roughness is
I don't understand it because I don't understand it. Man you've really lifted the veil from my eyes here. Thank you so much.
>I'm just going to assume you forgot to quote someone else with this last bit
You're right, I meant to quote the guy you were quoting. I'll do that now. >>9312127
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>>9312283
>I don't understand it because I don't understand it. Man you've really lifted the veil from my eyes here. Thank you so much.
so it went over your head then because the point is that said property is the combination of 3 surface concepts so if you understand them individually and are able to use your brain to think logically then you can put 2 and 2 together to understand the surface property that combines them
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>>9312284
>so if you understand them individually
I don't. There are 13 million parameters in the surfaces tab. You may as well learn Blender at this point.
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>>9312286
then your starting point is all wrong
the scariest thing about modern education is that it's assumed that students know how to learn properly in the first place, that they already know how to properly takes notes, etc, so it becomes highly inefficient exposure meets brute force like how growing younglings learn language for the first time constantly picking up words and spitting them out until they make sense to themselves and others but that's not how to go about learning stuff like this
you need to learn the concepts individually first and foremost or the surface properties will always be nonsense to you
https://docs.daz3d.com/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/interface/panes/surfaces/shaders/iray_uber_shader/shader_general_concepts/start
that link provides brief descriptions for a lot of it and for anything it doesn't or anything else you need more thoroughly explained you can probably just open a chatgpt session for (in all seriousness) which should be able to properly detail things for you to digest given you feeding it the correct terminology as it is used within daz
in short, learn each concept individually and then you can start to understand how they work together as your own example is 3 combined concepts
of those 3 roughness is probably the easiest and once you understand what it does you can then quickly discern how it's going to interact with other surface concepts
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>>9312288
to add to this, a lot of daz works out of the box but assuming you can be competent at it without any knowhow is still a bad call because at the end of the day iray is still a fully featured pbr using physics and even the camera itself is physically simulated like aperture, f-stop, focal length, etc so there's a lot to learn in general if you want to actually be competent with daz even if it does a lot (most) of the work for you already
to speak specifically to badik, dpc only learned lighting and photography so if his renders are satisfactory enough for you then you can also just forget shaders altogether
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>>9312288
>Glossy Anisotropy - This setting controls glossy's bi-directional scattering distribution functions (BSDF) reflection and transmission on a rough surface such as brushed or sanded metal
Yeah I occasionally ask Gemini about stuff like this. Typically it points me to a thread on the Daz forum where the question never gets answered.
The documentation for Daz is terrible, just admit it.
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>>9312128
>including Prof. Burke
Riona fucked Burke? When was this revealed? I thought it was Sarah, Mel and that Priscilla girl. Riona definitely fucked all the jocks besides Dawe and Chad and all the DIKs besides Tommy.
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>>9312299
admit what? you literally cut off the rest of the explanation
>This is a ranged value from 0.0 to 1.0. The higher value spreads or stretches the anisotropic effect further across the object's surface. The lower the value, the more condensed the anisotropic effect becomes.
anisotropy isn't even one of the more complex shader concepts so if you're having trouble understanding it then just look it up or have chatgpt feed it to you
heck, I'll even just google it to use as an example since you brought it up to prove I'm not cherrypicking this
>"anisotropy as it applies to lighting"
>Anisotropy in lighting describes how a surface reflects or diffuses light differently depending on the direction of the light or the viewing angle, caused by micro-structures like parallel scratches, fibers, or grooves
you're still falling into the same trap of trying to understand combined concepts without understanding them individually seeing as you didn't even know what anisotropy is
if you refuse to learn properly then you simply won't learn with things like this so that's entirely on you
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>>9312291
>so there's a lot to learn in general if you want to actually be competent with daz even if it does a lot (most) of the work for you already
Well yeah that was my point. I don't have PhDs in photography or graphic design so most of this is basically a foreign language. And if you're going to go through the trouble of learning all that, you may as well learn how to use Blender.
Incidentally my problem with DPC is his posing, not the surface settings (although his earlier renders had characters with extremely metallic teeth). Every character looks stiff and lifeless.
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>>9312303
>admit what?
That the documentation is for people who are already into the jargon and don't need to refer to the documentation to start with. It's bad documentation.
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>>9312306
>>9312307
you don't need degrees to understand the general concepts of things
again using anisotropy as an example you don't need to know the math (physics) behind it but instead have a general understanding of what it is and what it does in order to manipulate it as a surface property within a shader in daz
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Its out.
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>>9312301
It's was heavily implied way back in ep1, during the first freeroam in the dorms, that she did something with Prof. Burke. Whenever you go to the restroom and Quinn/Riona walk out, if you go inside and check the stall (the one with the gloryhole), there's someone on the other side whistling to themselves. All you can see through the gloryhole is that there's someone wearing vertical-striped suit pants, and they're the exact same vertical-striped suit pants that Prof. Burke has on the next day, and just about every other time you see him for the next few episodes. Tybalt also wears the same striped pants once or twice, but it definitely wasn't him in there.
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>>9312311
is this real chat
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>>9312306
>although his earlier renders had characters with extremely metallic teeth
In Acting Lessons all his characters had mirror eyes
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>>9312314
>it's like you're my mirror
>my mirror's staring back at me
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>>9312308
You know I think the main problem I have with learning about these things is that the changes I make are only visible after rendering. The viewport is the prince of lies. It's tedious beyond belief and I rapidly lose interest.
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>>9312311
>v0.1
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>>9312314
>best girl
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>>9312318
Thats new game from Chasing Sunsets dev.
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>>9312321
cool, I will wait for ~5 updates more
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>>9312321
how many sunsets is he chasing this time around?
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>>9312321
Same MC?
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>>9312324
Same vibes, same energy.
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>>9312321
I couldn't even finish that game. The hotel management crap was incredibly tedious to click through.
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>>9312326
is this a direct sequel?
as in
do the characters from the first game appear in the sequel
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>>9312327
the freckled surfer cousin and the nun were hot at least, worth installing a gallery mod over
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>>9312327
>chasing sunsets
>hotel management
you’re confusing games here, there’s no sandbox in chasing sunsets
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>>9312329
srry I'm white so I don't download full saves
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>>9312329
wat
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>>9312331
nobody said anything about saves at all, saar
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>>9312329
>the freckled surfer cousin
She was our mascot at one point.
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>>9312333
It's the same thing fatty :)
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>>9312335
you need to go back
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>>9312333
the entire point of a full save is unlocking the gallery you subhuman
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>>9312337
do not redeem, saar
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>>9312337
Full saves are for niggers so only niggers bring them up in the first place while mods are made by white men for other white men.
>>
Anyway, you're getting me off track here in a desperate attempt to 'win' an argument you lost. My point is the game is shit due to bad writing, even if the gobbos were all pretty good. Except for the twins who had FAS or something.
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I accept your concession
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>>9312311
any coomtent?
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>>9312343
What game are you even talking about? You said chasing sunsets but it has none of what you mentioned
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>>9312347
>t. has never managed a hotel with his sister before
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>>9312319
you mean the worst girl
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>>9312314
Acting Lessons looked like complete shit, it's hard to believe it was popular
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>>9312312
Riona was probably supposed to be the original blackmailer but then he pussied out
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is witch trainer worth playing?
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>>9312354
not at all
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>>9312361
our response?
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>>9312362
thats reasonable because its not ntr
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>>9312363
This, my wife gives my friends lapdances all the time even when I'm not there and it's not NTR.
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>>9312362
Depends on how much I feel like shitposting at any given time
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>>9312351
How many wegs don't look like shit?
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>>9312362
NTR
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>>9312347
yo i might be retarded
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>>9312329
For me it was the twins.
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>>9312367
Daz requires a lot of time and resource to shit something consistently good. That software drains you from the inside out like the Salt vampire in Star Trek.
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>>9312354
No
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>>9312367
This is a winning position for you because no matter what I name here, it can be mocked easily. It's easier to shit on things than praise them.
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>>9312373
Incorrect. He asked how many wegs don't look like shit, not for examples
Simply name a number and you win
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>>9312367
ketzal/aldors stuff
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>>9312367
6 7
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>>9312312
It's just reused assets. Somet hings also got changed - Riona was all over Tommy in early episodes and we know they never fucked. Most of BaDIK theories revolve around reused assets and DPC being a lazy faggot.
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>>9312324
No.
>>9312328
Its same universe, and there are some returning characters.
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what were the retarded parts of chasing sunsents? i knoe there had to be some
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>>9312384
Need to follow a walkthrough to get the ending with both LIs
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>>9312384
the plotline with getting the latina's dad's blessing even though you're already banging his daughter, also the mc's mom's glasses and her keeping them on during sex
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>>9312387
glasses gobbos are CUTE and they should never take them off
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>>9312387
Keeping glasses on during sex is based though?
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>>9312387
the latina wears the mc's moms glasses during sex? hot. we need more glasses wearing latinas

>>9312389
see above
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>>9312384
The nun looked too young to be a nun honestly.
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>>9310980
Elin
The sister from Long Live the Princess
The mom from Monkey Business
Middle Daughter from Boxed in
Seraphina
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>>9312377
I Don't get it, does he has to fill a football filed full of NPCS for you to be happy? I've seen superb play involving only two people for an hour.
No matter the fucker swims in cash, your dopamine receptors are fried.
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Asset reusage is a form of NTR. The model is being unfaithful to (You)
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>can't string together two words without fucking up the grammar
>STOP DISCUSSING THIS HE'S A MILLIONAIRE SO YOU LOSE
Yeah.
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>>9312394
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Is this a bot reply or something?
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>>9312330
i think he is confusing it for sunshine love
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>>9310980
I choose Jill five times.
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>>9312398
Do you lace our own shoes? I'd be surprised.
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Damn I wish this thread was more popular, if the dude had said this on /v/ I could've made "do you lace our own shoes" a new meme. That's too fucking funny
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>>9310980
Ruby from Midnight Paradise. Mediocre game but god tier gobbo.
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>>9312371
How to salt vampire scene, saar

>>9312388
Based
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>>9312384
Off the top of my head, spoiler warning
>Having to see your mom get banged by your stepdad in a flashback scene (NTR)
>MC and Jaye not fucking when they were kids, the whole stupid drama between them
>Jaye exploding with rage at you for punching the guy that tried to rape her, when she was actually happy you did it (peak woman moment)
>Jaye having lesbian sex with her friend for years while her friend pretends to be you to cope with being in love with you
>Jaye’s friend giving you her virginity while pretending to be Jaye in a hail mary attempt to get you to not leave (hot as fuck scene though)
>Mal thinking she’s somehow ugly because of her heterochromia (though this can be explained)
I’m sure there’s a lot more I can’t remember
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>>9312377
What? He obviously revealed that pant design through the gloryhole for a reason, so that you'd see Prof. Burke a little later in the episode wearing the exact same pair and connect the two events, or not if you weren't paying attention to it. Who the fuck else would be in a campus bathroom wearing those same vertical-striped pants that Burke always wears and secretly meeting with Quinn/Riona and/or using the gloryhole with them on the other side? There's even a mention in the bio section along the lines of "What did Quinn and Riona do in that bathroom stall?" and it's the first event recorded in both of their bios, so it's not just some random background dude wearing background asset pants because DPC is lazy. It's one of the few early events that still hasn't been revisited or resolved, so DPC is clearly keeping it in the pocket for whatever Burke/Quinn shenanigans (or Riona revenge arc) will call back to it in S04. Also, whenever Burke tells Jade he fooled around with 3 students he's probably not including Priscilla in that number, he's probably talking about Riona/Sarah/Melanie, because those are the three that are working with Quinn at the start of the game.
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>>9312361
>this game has no NTR unless you consider NTR to be NTR
???
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>>9312425
The drama between the kids in the prologue and the first chapter was perfect. Unfortunately the quality and direction of writing quickly nosedived, despite the stellar beginning I disliked the game.
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>>9312431
Wait, so if I just mentally categorize nothing as NTR, I'm completely safe from cuckshit? Forever?
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>>9312434
No, that's just called being delusional
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>>9312361
>Trust me I hate it as much as you
???
Is this not a comment left by the dev? What does this even mean-
If you yourself dislike it, remove it?
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>>9312449
He hates that lapdances are considered equivalent to actual cuckoldry, which I think is a fair complaint in some ways. The tagging system is extremely black and white. Should a game with one optional futa scene be painted with the same brush as a full on fag game where you suck off dickgirls? Probably not
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>>9312453
Interracial for Asian LIs always makes me chuckle
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>>9312449
The game does not contain NTR. The girls who do the dances do not betray you in any way, they dont give the recipients of the dances the option of touch like they do for you, they arent going to fuck any of them. They have nothing at all that can really be called NTR.

There is a flashback that shows your breakup with the ex fiance because she had a woman moment though.

The worst part is the dev added multiple trannies and does not tell you who the trannies are so he added literal traps.

>>9312453
VNDB is the superior website for tags but its seperate so might not even have the game some times.
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>>9312464
>The game does not contain NTR. The girls who do the dances do not betray you in any way, they dont give the recipients of the dances the option of touch like they do for you, they arent going to fuck any of them. They have nothing at all that can really be called NTR.
Girls acting like whores with other men is in fact NTR.
>inb4 they are whores
Yeah, they are whores and the game has NTR.
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>>9312464
Yeah I use VNDB whenever I can. Way higher IQs than f95, also, which helps.
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>>9312466
A stripper is not a whore anon. They are different professions. If you are unable to comprehend that then you should be silent.
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>>9312458
that one is so fucking annoying on mainstream sites, probably a deliberate push by jews. they made it basically impossible to filter out brown men because they know everyone would do it
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>>9312464
>The worst part is the dev added multiple trannies
holy dropped
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It's very odd that people argue over what is and isn't cuckshit, because it follows a very simple rule: any form of intimacy with others is cuckshit. Simple as. Physical, emotional, whatever. It's an instinct which we all share, not some philosophical concept. Humans once had a heated debate with Neanderthals over cuckshit, and we literally ate them.
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>>9312477
Having Neanderthal DNA is NTR
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>>9312477
Actually, we NTR'd them, which is why neanderthal dna is still within most of us. There is no escape from the NTR, it even predates humanity
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>>9310980
Heart Problems - Stephanie
Imperial Chronicles - Lia
Secrets and Promises - Hannah and Mary
Desert Stalker - Nadia, Kateryna, Fairy
Summertime Saga - Grace
Witch Hunter - Lilian
Eternum - All of them
Seeds of Chaos - Tue San
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>>9312483
>Seeds of Chaos - Tue San
Is that the one that stomps on Rowan's balls?
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>>9312484
Yes it's the femdom goblin, he has unfathomably shit taste
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>>9312474
>they made it basically impossible to filter out brown men
last time I used the hub it was literally impossible to filter even with every single possible tag including them excluded

>>9312475
they are entirely avoidable. theres the waitress (rip), some other one which might be related to the drug user or the drug user cannot remember and two tatted trannies who cry about not having their shots which I thought was hilarious. dont know which choice leads to the scene cus URM
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>>9312483
I know it's like to each his own, but you have horrendous taste. Every single one of these is shit nearly
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>>9312489
actually it's each to his own
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>>9312492
"to each his own" is actually the older form of that idiom and closer to the Latin root, but both are correct.
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>>9312384
No mom daughter threesome at the cabin.
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>>9312471
A stripper IS a whore. Are you retarded or pretending for the sake of trolling?
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>>9312508
you should go to a strip club and test out that hypothesis, I'd love to see you get beaten up by the bouncer
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>>9312510
Test what? Why would a bouncer want to beat me up? For wrongthink? I guess you're not pretending to be a retard.
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>>9310980
Strictly on looks?
Ines - STWA Unbroken
Allison - Race of Life
Paige - Westview Academy
Brooke - Westview Academy
Tasha (and NOT Ashley) - Elmwood University
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>>9312483
Haha, he asked for five. You listed way more than that.
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>>9312516
You're not allowed to touch the girls at civilized strip clubs. Most of them are lesbians anyway.
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>>9312516
u cant be this thick
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>>9312519
Why would I want to touch them? They are working at a strip club, stripping for a living, dancing and grinding on random dudes. They are whores.
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>>9312519
>>9312520
If its not a fag being a troll its somebody so massively retarded its effectively the same.
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>>9312431
Using question marks is ntr
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>white knighting for strippers
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Since I am doing this for myself, I can afford a cameo.
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i miss when wegs were good
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>>9312565
Don't we all.
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>>9312520
Everything is ntr to them Everything.

Unless you are on a date and both MC and the LI are wearing burkas, and the LI doesn't tease the MC (that's like a stripper), it's ntr. All plot devices and any location besides Luca or a mosque it's ntr
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>>9312288
>>9312291
>>9312303
>he traded the ability to use capital letters and periods to become a DAZ master
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>>9312564
>violence in a fast food place
murder hebes at it again. must be the pregnancy hormones
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Posted right as the last thread closed
Here we go again

Has there in recent weg history been an attempt on a nsfw point-and-click adventure? I've been thinking of something like the old lucasarts games but with the additional action button "fuck" or something like that.

There were a lot of commercial softcore games out there in the 2000s and I always asked myself why no one saw the potential since then
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>>9312590
None I'm aware of. Only seen games with click to collect extras/optional routes.
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>>9312590
No, it's never been done before.
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>>9312590
You should check out that Dune game.
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>>9312590
I Was A Teenage Vampire started that way in older builds. You clicked around the space and MC moved to the spot, you collected items, but I don't think there was any inventory combining yet. Dev gave up on it really quickly and revamped it all to be more standard but kept the interesting art style.
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>>9312590
A few games have done that, but the more recent ones are very low quality/low effort shit. Like floating hands, detachable penis, disembodied mouth/tongue type of deal. Also, with AI, the lazy devs that would make that before make bad AI sloppa now instead.
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>>9312598
This game is awful with the amount of hoops you have to jump through to get a scene. Someone made a review comparing it to starving in the desert and getting a small cracker for your efforts.
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>>9312605
filtered
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>>9312565
I must have been sick that day
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>>9312598
masturbation is NTR
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>>9312615
Sorry for you. I hope you feel better now.
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>>9312582
>must be the pregnancy hormones
Could be...
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>>9312619
>no release
is this ntr?
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>>9312621
If you're unsure, the answer is always "yes".
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>>9312621
>is this ntr?
No such thing exists in my verse.
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>>9312616
What about mutual masturbation?
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Which one of (You) goys have been posting Being a DIK for a frickin' week? (You) know what? At this point, it doesn't matter, because it keeps running inside my thread, and it won't leave unless I ban it out, with a bullet!

>Dave Willis as Carl Brutananadilewski, "Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
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New girl from midlife wegdev and she looks familiar. Never guess her name.
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>>9311683
based fuck gen 9
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>>9312663
yeah thats the point theyre getting fucked see >>9312619
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>>9312231
So, next update WILL have Alaina sexo, basically guaranteed right?
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next when ya ready
>>9312682
>>9312682
>>9312682
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>>9312484
Yes

>>9312485
I don't like the femdom aspect. She's just the most attractive character in the game and most games

>>9312489
I have the best taste in this thread
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>>9312629
prove it by releasing the weg
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>>9312766
>I have the best taste in this thread
king of the ashes
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>>9312629
the gobbomancer made an asian girl are you going to make her part of the murder hebes or is the group finished



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