I'm a huge fucking LOSER.I failed once or twice and then I just kept losing for a looong time now.I know it's stupid to even ask here but I am desperate and against the wall so to speak.Context:>Graduated in 2023, Software Degree and IT course (didn't know the market would get saturated this fast)>2024 I tried to get a job the way you usually do>2025, went abroad for work and only managed to hold a job for 3 months until the contract ended and the business changed owners>2026, basically fully NEET and back in my home country after pussying out overseas>Did a course in teaching English because I thought it'd get me short term cash (it did not)So, what do I do? I know any plans of having 'fun' 20's are over and done with but even the idea of getting anywhere in life seems impossible to me.Also:>Addicted to Doomscrolling, can't get enough sleep>Not sure how to socialize or network if it's even possible for me>Flat broke>Most likely have some form of ASD and trauma, as pathetic as that soundsI am trying to fix these things all at the same time but maybe I should look into getting meds or something.I think I might be depressed or burnt out or something. I don't recognize being this fucked up, even as a teenager.I just want to make money and be left alone now.
>>34546883Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bit
I graduated with a CIS major the same year as you and im also 25. Stop being a NEET and work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related job. I had to work as a computer repair man for a year after graduation before I lucked out and got an IT job. It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gig.Also you arent a loser because you dont have an IT job you just feel like one. I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass man. Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbies.
>>34546900>Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bitI tried that locally with very little luck.After I get my setup back to normal, I'll do some more freelance work. I won't rule out anything at least.
>>34547265>work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related jobI will, I'll get back into the market.>It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gigThat's fair, yeah. Seems like a lot but there's no choice anyway I guess.
>>34546883If at first you don't succeed, try againBUT only if you try differently
>>34549216>BUT only if you try differentlyDo you mean my mindset about things are about my career choices?I will admit, I haven't had a clear roadmap for my life for the past year.
>>34546883Get your T-levels checked, just to be safe.
>>34546883Let's build a SaaS together.
>>34550880Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean.
>>34550836Should I get a full checkup for that, or should I wait until I am able to do this during an actual checkup?
>>34546883post "nigger" in the bluest of boards and get a 3 day ban. Don't reset the router and delete cookies. Stop solving these stupid captchas. Doomscroll only at mornings or when you drink a cup of coffee. Aim for some kind of disabilty gibs in your country. That's all you can do, nignog
>>34550926>Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean.Not via 4chan, we would add each other on Discord, slowly know each other, and then we would collaborate. I am feeling lost just like you. I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses, if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a win. Sorry, I was only able to answer today cause I was working. I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiring.
>>34552812all sorta good advice
>>34553014Okay sure, Discord would work good for me.
>>34553376I dropped my discord ID and deleted quickly, idk if you've seen it. You can drop yours too, not a problem.
You're not a loser. You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self-sabotage yourself at almost every opportunity.
>>34553400All good, thank you. I managed to find it, I'll add you as soon as I can.I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things.
>>34554512>I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things.Sure, good luck with everything you have to take care of. Until then.
>>34553014>I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses, I feel the exact same way, having a project that pays for itself is the best goal for starting this kind of venture.>if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a winSounds great to me.
>>34553014>I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiringIt's cool, I managed okay with frontend and backend but I did pretty well when it came to frontend work for moat of my work.
>>34550926>>34553376>>34554512>>34555940>>34556713Guys, let's join together and create some SaaS, then. That's actually perfect. But I can't tell who OP is or whether you guys are the same person. I had dropped my Discord ID before, but I usually get nervous and end up deleting it.With that in mind, I created a Discord server called "SaaS Server." The invite will last for 7 days. Anyone who thinks they can contribute in a meaningful way is welcome to join us in the meantime. Depending on the number of people, we can assemble one or two teams. It's going to be an interesting experiment: https://discord.gg/MepMcc4d
>>34556907c'mon guys, join the server
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>>34552299Get a full checkup but push for them to check your t-levels too. It is better to be thorough about this stuff.
Sorry for the delay in responses, this weekend is more busy than expected, will followup properly when possible.>>34553840>You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self sabotage yourself at almost every opportunityI only realised that last year, thankfully I've been trying to get out of my own way more. It takes a lot of effort though.
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>>34546883My mindset went from:>loser > life-little person (PC play on intellectual-midget) > lazy man's version of an upstanding personJust have to keep making progress little-by-little.Also, what course did you take to teach English?
>>34546883Give up and “enjoy” the culture slop the woke have deemed fit to force upon us
>>34556907I'm the Op, once I get my crummy discord account working again I'll pop into that channel. Thank you for the invite.
>>34546883Trying being me, 36. Working min wagie retail job (which is actually enjoyable desu, we sell 2nd hand goods)
>>34560703>what course did you take to teach English?It was a 120 hour online course, for TEFL AND TESOL.I'll provide better details once I am ready to use my laptop again.
>>34560766>Give upI gave up on a lot of big things already, I got tired of doing that too.All I'm looking for is a decent way to make a living and to take care of the people and things I care about.I'm not trying to be Batman, I just wanna be able to survive and chill three to four days out of the week.But yeah fair enough, I shouldn't get my hopes up too high.
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>>34547265>I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass manI suppose I am in a similar situation.I will stop letting my mood dictac for now, I'll just focus on getting some schmoney without having to die for it.>Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbiesAlso a good point, taking better care of myself is easier with actual money but I'll avoid making myself weaker from now on.
>>34560966Any advice for a schmuck like me, any mistakes I should be desperately avoiding? Besides my current failures I mean.
>>34562315I am Certificate in TEFL and TESOL:>Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL) >Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL)Basically, I can teach English to anyone of any background so long as I can have a proper class with them online or in person.My relevant experience comes from me tutoring and helping many of my other family members and neighbors as well as the time I have spent working as a teacher's assistant during highschool.English was my best subject in school, and so was Research in college but I doubt those two mean much without a ton of job experience to fluff them up.
>>34556907Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far.
>>34546883On a related note, do you guys have any advice on getting better sleep?
>>34571699There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a day.Why some people do or don't, no one knows to this day.>>34570063You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 years. Stop caffeine at like 10am, go to sleep on time, sleep 7-9 hrs, comfortable temp, completely dark, quiet, ear plugs and eye cover if needed, get off computer hour before sleep, don't eat right before bed, yada yada. Consistent schedule matters a LOT.>>34560966>>34563716Drive a truck, join the military, or get into a nursing program. None of the other shit will get fixed at your income level.
>>34570063Depends on why you aren't getting enough sleep.
>>34546883just be yourself. it's not like you have a choice.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&ra=m
>>34572094I struggle to keep my mind at rest during the night, I keep replaying my stressers and mistakes in my mind.
my family is a fucking nightmare
>>34546883Practice your tech and IT skills outside of work. Have passion projects and you will soon be employed.
>>34571713>get into a nursing programI can't get into the military or truck driving where I am but the last one seems most possible at this stage.The military in my home country does nothing for a career and I need citizenship for the overseas militaries, so money is still the issue then.Anything to consider with the nursing program?
>>34571713>You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 yearsGreat, thank you.I'll be using these notes tonight.
>>34568227>Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far.The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined? If you want I can generate another one, we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going on.
>>34571713>There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a dayUnderstood, I am getting my sleep and nutrition in order.I'll put the rest into practice where I can this week. No phone for 45 minutes before bed too.
>>34582153>The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined? Not yet, sorry. Last week was a kick in the ass.>If you want I can generate another one, For the sake of convenience, I will let you know in a follow up post when I am ready to pop in.I don't wanna keep you in suspense or inconvenienced.>we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going onThat sounds awesome, looking forward to it when I am ready.
>>34575222>Practice your tech and IT skills outside of workI am trying to do so with YouTube videos, trying to get more comfortable focusing on my own again. >Have passion projects I'm sorry if I kee making myself look a fool but how do you narrow down a passion project?My interests are very visual and all over the place.
>>34572106>just be yourself. it's not like you have a choiceI don't think that'll really work until I evolve myself beyond what I am.Without torturing myself though, l tried it before and it didn't help.Anyways, money is the main concern.I'll look at this video too as well by the way, just in the middle of something.
I should be able to join that discord channel properly this week.
I should've bought Bitcoin or something.
>>34589713You still could, if you got money.
>>34591564That might be a few steps away for me.
>>34556907not op but im down. what kind of saas are you thinking of?t. office wagie
>>34597937>>34588086The invite had expired. There's 6 of is, for now we haven't progressed much as we're still deciding on the idea. I generated this new invite. https://discord.gg/EP3mxp6q
>>34582739Good news, I am back on Discord now.>>34582153You can send a new invite now, if it is at all still possible.Apologies, and thank you for the patience.
>>34546883If you can't get a job that you want, get a job in warehouse, usually there are one or tow warehouse around amazon or something similar. Good pay with easy job and safe enough for a short term plans, work there year or two and search for better job in time.
>>34599709Thank you, I appreciated it very much.Again, sorry for the delay.
This week is ending on a rough note.
>>34599741Thank you, I'll be keeping an eye out for warehouse positions.
>>34546883have you uhhh tried getting a job in your country
>>34546883Either get into a part time job and live very modest life or get into some shit like sales and become a degenerate
>>34606796Yes, but its too finicky.I'm putting more of my eggs into an online gig, unless a job here is certain.
>>34606855What do you mean become a degenerate?Like go gambling all the time?
>>34546883Doomscrolling is a more serious addiction than it gets credit for. Literally more damaging than cocaine. You can still get shit done on coke. Doomscrolling, you're throwing hours and hours of your life in the trash.As for money, fuck the college degree bullshit. College jobs are only suitable for douchebags and people who have no use for their own mind.You want a blue collar job. Body does the work, mind is still yours.Sucks you wasted all that time and money on college, but it was a waste. Cut your losses and focus on the future.
>>34613863>You want a blue collar job>Body does the work, mind is still yoursAny recommendations? For my skillset and circumstances I mean.
>>34613863>Doomscrolling is a more serious addiction than it gets credit for>Literally more damaging than cocaineScientifically, I think you are correct. I think I read that somewhere too. >Doomscrolling, you're throwing hours and hours of your life in the trashNo doubt, I can barely remember anything that's happened in the last 3 or so years, in between sending out job applications at least.Even my stupid hobbies would have been a better use of time.
>>34613863I literally lose sleep before wage by doomscrollingwhether it's before going to sleep or after waking up 2-4 hours later for some reason and decide to doomscroll twitter or watch a vid or three on youtube from the result of scrolling recommended
>>34546883>has a degree>has work experiencejust move for work, keep on applying. don't use therapy terms as a man, if you're tired just go to bed, if you're feeling depressed, do something active, have a community (church, family, etc) you regularly engage with, preferably not someone you have to pay like a therapist.
>>34620478just get a dumbphone if it's that big of a problem>>34621009the NEETs on /r9k/ would burst into tears if they saw you complaining with all this
This is the advice board,, so my advice is do not be like this miserable millennial unc BALDCEL!>>34621336>>34621201
>>34613863>for money, fuck the college degree bullshitFair, any sunk cost I used to feel is done now. Wish I could get a better return on invetsmnet but so be it, not the first or last time college burned someone.
>>34621598I don't know if I should be reading this.I think this is about something else.
>>34621009>just move for work, keep on applyingWorking on it, I'm sending a few more applications out tomorrow for work abroad, different country this time.Looking for a new travel agent too.
>>34625045I really need to get a software job or something soon, I'm going to be homeless if I can't. Can you tell me anything on how to do this?
>>34626202>For short term work?Look at sites like Upwork, you'll run into a few gigs where you can work either by the hour or by task.Make sure the guy you're working for isn't a flake or cheapskate, look at the rating and validity of the gig.>For long term workThat's more tricky, so I'll back to you on that as soon as possible.
>>34621009>keep on applyingI'll increase the frequency but I'm trying to avoid making my application look unappealing. I guess I just need to be smarter about it.>don't use therapy terms as a manI don't usually, I was just trying to be more specific.>if you're tired just go to bedI got my hands on some herbal stuff, so that should help.
>>34621009>feeling depressed, do something activeI'm trying to journal more, so I can put certain things to rest.>have a community (church, family, etc) you regularly engage withFamily is a bit of a mess these days but I try my best there.I've been trying to catch up with more people these days, via texting at least.
